The Ben Shapiro Show - September 25, 2026


Tucker Carlson Is Burning Down the GOP on Purpose

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00:00:00.000 Right now, the Republicans are in rough shape going into the midterm elections.
00:00:04.000 President Trump is sitting somewhere between a 37% and a 40% approval rating.
00:00:09.000 He's deeply underwater.
00:00:10.000 Now, that is not because Democrats have moved.
00:00:13.000 Democrats always hated him.
00:00:15.000 They always hated him.
00:00:17.000 It is because of independents who have moved against him.
00:00:20.000 But most importantly, it's because of Republicans.
00:00:24.000 Here's the thing if Republicans in the generic congressional ballot were down, say, five points instead of eight points right now, that would likely mean that Republicans would pick up the seat in Michigan.
00:00:34.000 Would certainly win in Iowa, would certainly win in Texas, and would certainly win in Maine and Alaska, which means they would maintain the Senate.
00:00:40.000 That two to three percentage point margin means an awful lot when it comes to dead even races in a wide variety of Senate races.
00:00:47.000 That is Republicans who are dropping off the bandwagon.
00:00:50.000 If Republicans supported Trump at the 90% clip that they did a year ago, Republicans would still be in rough shape in the House, but they'd be in kind of commanding position in the Senate, just statistically speaking.
00:01:00.000 So what does that mean?
00:01:01.000 It means that when you have supposed friends of the administration, deep abiding friends, Supposed strong Republicans who not only are expressing their upset with the Republican Party, but running directly against it and praising the evil, literally praising candidates of the Democratic Party.
00:01:18.000 There's a reason for that.
00:01:20.000 There's a reason for that.
00:01:22.000 Tucker Carlson is overtly campaigning for Senate Democrats in places like Maine and Michigan.
00:01:28.000 He overtly wants Democrats to win.
00:01:31.000 It is not enough for him to say he is upset with Trump's policy.
00:01:34.000 Hell, I'm upset with half of Trump's policy.
00:01:36.000 That is not what this is about.
00:01:38.000 The question is, why is he out there openly encouraging people to vote for Democrats and to abandon Republicans?
00:01:44.000 That's the real question.
00:01:47.000 Here was Tucker Carlson.
00:01:48.000 NPR loves this.
00:01:50.000 Tucker is now receiving strange new respect treatment from all of the legacy media because there's nothing the legacy media loves better than an apostate Republican who turns tail and runs because that splits the party and then they're very happy. 0.99
00:02:03.000 This is how Marjorie Taylor Greene goes from being a double digit IQ moron who is deeply. 0.99
00:02:09.000 Disrespected by the legacy media to a double digit moron who is deeply respected by the media. 0.98
00:02:14.000 It's how Thomas Massey, who is considered anathema to the legacy media, is now considered a source worth considering from the legacy media. 0.95
00:02:21.000 Same thing for Tucker Carlson.
00:02:23.000 Legacy media hate Tucker Carlson up until precisely the point at which there is a confluence of interest, at which point they start trotting him out, obviously.
00:02:30.000 Here is NPR giving him the solidly massage based treatment while Tucker says that Trump should be bundled out of office.
00:02:39.000 It's enough for me to say he should be removed from office.
00:02:43.000 He should have been removed from office by his own cabinet secretaries the moment he threatened a nuclear attack.
00:02:49.000 You're talking now about the 25th Amendment, where a majority of the cabinet.
00:02:52.000 That's correct.
00:02:53.000 He should have been bundled up and taken out.
00:02:53.000 Yeah.
00:02:55.000 That's a crime.
00:02:56.000 There's no greater crime than that.
00:02:59.000 Okay.
00:02:59.000 I'm just going to point out that he literally said that if there was an assassination attempt against President Trump, then Trump should nuke Iran.
00:03:08.000 Tucker said that himself to Ted Cruz.
00:03:10.000 They're trying to assassinate our president?
00:03:12.000 They have been for two years.
00:03:13.000 They are our enemies.
00:03:14.000 They're going to war with them.
00:03:15.000 Well, we are trying to. 1.00
00:03:17.000 Why don't we just nuke Tehran if they're trying to murder our president? 0.99
00:03:19.000 There's nothing that you could do that would be worse for the United States than murdering Trump. 0.97
00:03:24.000 And I just don't understand why you're not calling for the use of nuclear weapons against the Ayatollah right now. 0.62
00:03:28.000 I'm serious.
00:03:29.000 If you really believe they're trying to murder.
00:03:30.000 The use of nuclear weapons, whatever it is.
00:03:32.000 So what do you mean?
00:03:34.000 You don't seem to take the allegations seriously.
00:03:36.000 I do.
00:03:36.000 If you believe they're trying to murder Trump, we need to stop what we're doing and punish them.
00:03:41.000 Now, Tucker also spent his day with NPR explaining that Obama was right on Iran all along.
00:03:50.000 Not a shock.
00:03:51.000 And yet, the last two Democratic presidents made a nuclear deal with Iran and then tried to remake a nuclear deal with Iran rather than launching a regime change war against Iran. 0.55
00:04:00.000 Which doesn't seem like a true state.
00:04:02.000 Which is a huge improvement over what Trump did.
00:04:05.000 Okay.
00:04:05.000 I will say that.
00:04:07.000 As someone who opposed Obama, especially in his second term, it took, I thought, courage and a huge amount of effort to get that nuclear deal done.
00:04:15.000 And he should get credit for it.
00:04:16.000 Again, this is who Tucker Carlson is.
00:04:18.000 Tucker Carlson is openly standing for the Democrats in the middle of this election cycle, openly standing for them.
00:04:23.000 Right.
00:04:24.000 He's defending Graham Platner still.
00:04:25.000 Why? 0.59
00:04:25.000 Because if there is an anti Semite who's more obvious than Graham Platner, it's hard to find him. 0.59
00:04:29.000 He literally had a death's head tattoo on him, which means he's a friend of Tucker. 0.70
00:04:33.000 So here is Tucker defending openly Graham Platner.
00:04:35.000 This would be after his open defense of Abdul Al Said.
00:04:38.000 His views were out of the Democratic mainstream, and he was destroyed by the Democratic Party in a fake sex scandal.
00:04:44.000 So Graham Platner should still be the Democratic nominee.
00:04:47.000 Of course.
00:04:47.000 Graham Platner was, by the way, Graham Platner was the choice of voters.
00:04:51.000 Remember them in Maine?
00:04:53.000 He won.
00:04:54.000 So yeah, he was the overwhelming choice.
00:04:58.000 But of course, they don't get to vote for him in the fall because the Democratic Party, including the Democratic Party of Maine, which is run by people who aren't even from Maine, rich girls, not from Maine, literally, rich girls, not from Maine. 0.77
00:05:10.000 I hope everyone's offended by that because it's true.
00:05:14.000 Yeah, they took him out.
00:05:15.000 They took him out in a fake sex scandal. 0.82
00:05:18.000 It was a fake sex scandal with regard to Graham Plattner.
00:05:21.000 Again, this is Tucker defending Democratic candidates, defending them.
00:05:25.000 This is the same guy who said that he would not, with a gun to his head, vote for Mike Rogers against Abdullah Syed. 0.93
00:05:30.000 And then said that Abdul El Sayed's old commentary on how America is worse than Al Qaeda is basically right. 0.96
00:05:37.000 What's the goal here? 1.00
00:05:38.000 So, what's the goal here?
00:05:39.000 The goal is to lose.
00:05:41.000 Tucker Carlson wants Republicans to lose.
00:05:43.000 He's not hiding the ball.
00:05:44.000 He wants Republicans to lose.
00:05:46.000 This is so that the Horseshoe Right can claim that Trump's agenda has failed, particularly on foreign policy, so they can then destroy the party and take over the fragments of it.
00:05:55.000 They can claim that they use their leverage to make Republicans lose in the only way that they can possibly.
00:06:01.000 Win again, Republicans is to kowtow to the radicals who agree with AOC on policy.
00:06:07.000 This is what they want to do.
00:06:08.000 They are not hiding it.
00:06:09.000 Now, honestly, the conflict on planet Earth right now between the West and the rest is so simple, but I think that maybe we're just not staffed up for it.
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00:07:18.000 Joel Webbin is another one of these fringe nut jobs.
00:07:20.000 He's out there saying that conservatives ought to support socialism.
00:07:25.000 It's time.
00:07:26.000 And if the left plays and keeps promising their voters, we will give you free stuff for your vote.
00:07:34.000 And the right says, we're principled and purist and above this.
00:07:38.000 Then the right will lose forever.
00:07:41.000 The game has changed, guys.
00:07:43.000 People have figured it out.
00:07:44.000 You can vote for stuff.
00:07:46.000 My preference is that we stop doing it altogether and we actually have a country. 0.61
00:07:50.000 But if you refuse to do what's necessary mass deportations, pass the Save Act while you're at it, get rid, repeal, hard seller, and civil rights.
00:08:01.000 If you're not going to do that, then you're going to have to do some element of socialism because it's already here.
00:08:07.000 Do socialism.
00:08:08.000 Maybe call it a national socialism, actually.
00:08:11.000 So what you are seeing in the streets from the mainstream left now, people who will be in Congress and the horseshoe right.
00:08:18.000 Is an attempt to destroy the West.
00:08:19.000 I mean, that's what this is about.
00:08:20.000 That's what the coalition of scavengers is.
00:08:22.000 It's what I wrote about in Lions and Scavengers. 1.00
00:08:24.000 It's what we're talking about in Run High Fight Infidels. 1.00
00:08:26.000 Okay, this is the fight. 1.00
00:08:28.000 Now, there's only one choice, and that is for the West to actually fight this evil, both internationally and domestically.
00:08:33.000 It is a good thing when evil loses.
00:08:36.000 How this became controversial is beyond me.
00:08:36.000 That's a good thing.
00:08:38.000 When evil people lose, that is good.
00:08:42.000 On that basis, by the way, shout out to our friend Justin Folk.
00:08:45.000 He's director of Matt Walsh's documentaries.
00:08:47.000 He has an awesome new documentary coming out.
00:08:48.000 It's titled Paging Hezbollah.
00:08:50.000 And it's about the pager attack that started the destruction of the Iranian backed Lebanese terrorist war machine. 0.71
00:08:56.000 There's no substitute for victory.
00:08:58.000 That's true abroad and it's true at home.
00:09:02.000 There's no substitute for victory.
00:09:02.000 Okay?
00:09:04.000 But there are a lot of people internationally who refuse to acknowledge this.
00:09:07.000 Okay?
00:09:09.000 Those who sympathize with Iran and Hamas, whether because they advocate political Islam or whether because they are radical leftists in solidarity, must be defeated.
00:09:17.000 But don't worry, there are plenty of people in the West who are perfectly willing to surrender to all of this.
00:09:21.000 And here is the UK's Foreign Minister, David Milliman, shaking hands happily.
00:09:24.000 With Abbasarrahi on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly.
00:09:29.000 Again, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was not wrong when he called out the Europeans for being cowards when it comes to defending freedom.
00:09:35.000 There are some, and most recently, especially in Western Europe, who have chosen not to stand up. 0.68
00:09:43.000 The leaders of these countries have chosen to succumb to the anti Semitic mobs.
00:09:51.000 They've chosen weakness, they've chosen appeasement.
00:09:57.000 We cannot evade the sad truth before us.
00:10:03.000 Many in the free world are afraid to defend freedom.
00:10:09.000 And I ask them, what will this future, what will this behavior, what will the world hold for you?
00:10:17.000 Okay, that is right. 0.66
00:10:18.000 Here's the thing there's only one choice with regard to evil nations, particularly ones who are currently holding hostage entire oil supplies through the Strait of Hormuz or through Bob Elmanda, and that is victory. 0.80
00:10:30.000 Now, listen, everyone would like the war in Iran to end. 0.87
00:10:35.000 I would like for it to end victoriously because there are only two ways a war ends you lose or you win. 0.98
00:10:41.000 There's no negotiated settlement with a bunch of radical Muslims who would prefer the eschaton to an actual agreement. 0.92
00:10:49.000 Now, President Trump seems to be operating off of the assumption that the Iranian government is a rational government that makes rationally based decisions. 0.87
00:10:55.000 If that were true, they would not have spent the last half century mass murdering their own people, engaging in a series of unwinnable wars.
00:11:02.000 Fostering terrorism around the region that has resulted in zero growth for their own country and their international isolation.
00:11:08.000 None of that is rationalistic.
00:11:09.000 None of it.
00:11:11.000 And the Iranian president, Massoud Pazeshkian, he did an interview with Fox News' Brett Baer. 0.86
00:11:18.000 And again, he's just out there spewing nonsense.
00:11:22.000 Here he denied killing Iranian citizens to Brett Baer.
00:11:28.000 There are two sides to any negotiation.
00:11:29.000 If the Iranians won't negotiate, that doesn't leave you a lot of choices, does it?
00:11:34.000 We would never attack our own population.
00:11:37.000 You know, the things you did.
00:11:40.000 No, no.
00:11:43.000 Who conducted terrorist actions against us?
00:11:46.000 Who hit our schools?
00:11:48.000 I understand, but in January 8th and 9th, you definitely had security forces that killed Iranian citizens.
00:11:57.000 Mr. Trump himself announced that we had equipped and armed these people in order to bring down the Iranian government.
00:12:06.000 Netanyahu's people announced that from Kurdistan and Balochistan province, Forces would be penetrating the major metropolitan centers in order to bring down the government.
00:12:18.000 They thought that it would be a three day affair, that the government would fall.
00:12:23.000 It remained steadfast, became more cohesive, and became more united.
00:12:28.000 Even those who stood against the Iranian government opposed us for a number of reasons. 0.61
00:12:34.000 Now they are supporting Iran.
00:12:37.000 Okay, that is not true at all.
00:12:39.000 At all, at all.
00:12:41.000 I would also prefer for the war to end because I would prefer that the oil prices come down.
00:12:45.000 But here's the thing.
00:12:46.000 There's one thing Americans like less than higher oil prices, and that's losing wars.
00:12:51.000 We don't like losing wars, particularly to backwater dictatorships that don't have any forward capacity in any serious way.
00:12:59.000 What does that leave on the table for President Trump?
00:13:01.000 Well, it leaves on the table the possibility of continuing the blockade.
00:13:04.000 That could continue until such point as there's an exogenous shock to the Iranian regime, or they can't pay their own people, or there's an uprising.
00:13:11.000 Or the administration, if we wish to rush the process, could do what I've been suggesting since April, which is bomb Kharga Island, destroy the Iranian refineries, and prevent their capacity.
00:13:20.000 Now and forever to export oil until they actually reintegrate with the international community, which would require change. 0.54
00:13:26.000 All of that's possible. 0.60
00:13:27.000 But for all the folks who think that some sort of bizarre, fast agreement with the Iranians to leave them in control of the Strait of Hormuz, where they can turn it on and off at whim, that that's somehow going to achieve a less significant Republican loss in 2026, you're out of your mind.
00:13:43.000 It's not going to work that way.
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