The Ben Shapiro Show - Twitter Cracks Down On ‘Misgendering’ To Start Pride Month

00:00:00.000 Well, folks, first of all, happy normal month, in which we celebrate traditional virtue, recognize biological sex differences, go to church and synagogue, and take care of our wives and kids.

00:00:10.000 Happy normal month to you.

00:00:11.000 That's the month that I'm celebrating this month, because that's the month I celebrate every single month.

00:00:15.000 You know, the month in which virtue is a good thing, in which pride is a sin, and lust is a sin, and greed is a sin.

00:00:22.000 Those are the months that I celebrate.

00:00:23.000 I don't know about you.

00:00:25.000 Corporate America celebrates Pride Month.

00:00:26.000 That is a month in which you celebrate your narcissistic view of your own sexual orientation and why it's the most important thing about human life and why everyone else must celebrate it along with you.

00:00:34.000 But that's not the month that I celebrate.

00:00:36.000 I celebrate like, you know, like every day by trying to be a good person who does moral things.

00:00:41.000 That's that's how I don't know.

00:00:43.000 It's weird.

00:00:44.000 I know.

00:00:44.000 But corporate America is celebrating Pride Month.

00:00:46.000 And as we discussed yesterday, there's a reason why corporate America celebrates Pride Month.

00:00:50.000 And it is because many of their biggest funders, not you, the actual market, but many of the people who actually buy their stock, Black Rock, Vanguard, State Street, they dump.

00:01:00.000 Literally trillions of dollars into various corporations around planet Earth just so that they can control their ESG, their environmental social governance.

00:01:09.000 And then they mandate that GE flip.

00:01:13.000 It's one thing to offend all the Christians in the United States. 0.51

00:01:20.000 It is a completely another thing to offend all the Saudis when you have to do business in Saudi Arabia. 0.66

00:01:25.000 Well, we now have what I think constitutes a free speech emergency.

00:01:30.000 So this emergency has been ongoing for a very long time.

00:01:33.000 Obviously, there are a lot of social media platforms that have cracked down on your ability to speak freely on these sorts of issues.

00:01:39.000 Corporations are now doing the work that government cannot do.

00:01:41.000 So, in Europe and in Canada, government does do the work.

00:01:44.000 In the UK, you can be arrested for expressing your point of view on biblical sin.

00:01:49.000 The same thing can happen in Canada.

00:01:50.000 You can have your kids taken away from you in Canada.

00:01:53.000 If you suggest that a boy is a boy and a girl is a girl under the inappropriate circumstances.

00:01:57.000 In the United States, however, the government is really not supposed to involve itself in that sort of stuff.

00:02:01.000 And so instead, they just work in cahoots with major corporations in order to leverage down a socially fascistic movement on you.

00:02:11.000 And if you speak out on social media, you will be silenced.

00:02:13.000 If you say anything at your place of work, you could be fired.

00:02:17.000 All of this has been crammed down on you.

00:02:19.000 Well, we've seen it on a bunch of different social media platforms.

00:02:21.000 Obviously, there have been a lot of complaints about platforms ranging from YouTube to Twitter in the pre-Elon Musk era.

00:02:28.000 But when Elon Musk bought Twitter, one of the suggestions is that Twitter was going to be the free speech platform.

00:02:34.000 In fact, that has been the ongoing assumption of people on the right since Elon bought Twitter because he said it at the time.

00:02:40.000 He said it was going to be a free speech platform.

00:02:42.000 He said, in fact, that's why he bought it.

00:02:43.000 One of the things that drove him to buy Twitter in the first place and expend probably three times what the company is worth, like $44 billion in order to buy Twitter.

00:02:51.000 One of the things that led him to do that was the banning of the Babylon Bee for the great sin of saying that a man is not a woman.

00:02:58.000 And then he bought it and he reinstated them.

00:03:00.000 He did the same thing with Jordan Peterson, right?

00:03:01.000 Jordan had tweeted that Elliot Page, who was Ellen Page, is a woman.

00:03:08.000 And he'd been banned for that.

00:03:10.000 And so Elon Musk reinstated him.

00:03:13.000 And Elon Musk was asked by the founder of the Babylon Bee, Seth Dillon, my friend Seth, he was asked by Seth about whether the implementation of a new ad regime at Twitter was going to change the way that Twitter viewed free speech.

00:03:26.000 Were they still going to allow the free expression of opposition to radical gender ideology?

00:03:32.000 And here is what Elon had to say.

00:03:35.000 You've got a new CEO coming in who's going to be taking over, and you want everybody else to have that same freedom to be able to say what they want, even if it costs them something personally in their lives or whatever, to have that freedom.

00:03:48.000 It would seem to me that the number one thing you'd be looking for is someone who's going to come in and be as committed to free speech as you are.

00:03:56.000 That trumps even advertising revenue, in your view, if you're willing to lose money to be able to personally speak freely.

00:04:03.000 Yeah, we've also lost advertising money because some advertisers got community noted.

00:04:10.000 We're not going to make all advertisers happy, but I think we'll make most of them happy.

00:04:14.000 There'd be enough that are happy to support this platform.

00:04:22.000 But we're not going to compromise on free speech.

00:04:27.000 We're not going to compromise on free speech, right?

00:04:28.000 That was Elon's commitment.

00:04:30.000 They weren't going to compromise on free speech.

00:04:32.000 The reason I bring that up today is because we are now seeing Twitter compromise on free speech.

00:04:37.000 So here is the story, and it implicates our company directly, and it implicates my friend Matt Walsh and his documentary, What Is A Woman?, the single best documentary and most impactful documentary of the last decade in the United States, bar none.

00:04:48.000 So, Jeremy Boring, co-founder of Daily Wire, my best friend, he tweeted out, And I've, of course, been privy to these negotiations, quote, Twitter canceled a deal with Daily Wire to premiere What Is A Woman for free on the platform because of two instances of misgendering.

00:05:02.000 I'm not kidding.

00:05:02.000 Here's what happened.

00:05:04.000 So What Is A Woman, we were going to premiere it for free on Twitter today.

00:05:08.000 And to initiate the one year anniversary of What Is A Woman and also because, of course, it's Pride Month, the most prideful month of all the year. 0.77

00:05:15.000 And so we were going to allow people to see for free.

00:05:18.000 We are going to allow people to see for free What Is A Woman. 0.99

00:05:22.000 So Jeremy says, one year ago today we released What is a Woman.

00:05:25.000 To celebrate the occasion and expand the movie's already enormous impact, we decided to give it away for free for 24 hours on Twitter.

00:05:31.000 With Twitter's recent commitments to free speech, we thought it would be the perfect place to distribute the film and drive the conversation forward on one of the most important topics of our day.

00:05:38.000 Twitter responded with enthusiasm and offered us the opportunity to buy a package to host the movie on a dedicated event page and to promote the event to every Twitter user over the first 10 hours.

00:05:47.000 We accepted and signed an agreement.

00:05:48.000 After we signed, Twitter asked to see the film to better understand what parts may trigger users so they could better prepare their response.

00:05:54.000 They said they were still all hands on deck for a launch, so we sent them a screener.

00:05:58.000 After reviewing the film, Twitter let us know that not only could we no longer purchase the package they offered, they would no longer provide us any support, and would actually limit the reach of the film and label it hateful conduct because of misgendering.

00:06:08.000 Specifically, in the film, a father refers to his 14-year-old daughter as her, and a store owner uses the wrong pronoun in a confrontation with a trans person.

00:06:16.000 We reminded Twitter they removed misgendering from their policy, and that the term misgendering itself is misleading, and that enforcing such a policy places them on the side of the most radical elements in society, the side most opposed to their commitment to free speech.

00:06:28.000 Twitter clarified they only removed misgendering from their policy because they didn't need to be that specific, but they still consider misgendering abuse and harassment.

00:06:35.000 Then they gave us the opportunity to edit the film to comply.

00:06:39.000 We declined.

00:06:39.000 So Twitter actually came to us and they said, we want you to remove these sections from the film and then we'll allow you to air it maybe.

00:06:45.000 When we asked how much they would limit the visibility if we posted the film anyway, Twitter replied, our own followers would not be able to see it in their feeds.

00:06:52.000 This, they said, is part of their speech not reach policy.

00:06:54.000 So in other words, if Matt Walsh personally posted what is a woman as an entire movie on his Twitter feed, his own followers would not be able to see it.

00:07:02.000 That's how much Twitter would throttle this thing.

00:07:04.000 Of course, saying you have a right to speak, says Jeremy, but we'll make sure no one hears you is a bit like saying you have a right to vote, but we'll make sure it isn't counted.

00:07:10.000 That's not a right at all.

00:07:12.000 We brought all of our shows to Twitter Tuesday because we believed Twitter was committed to free speech, especially on this issue.

00:07:16.000 After all, the Babylon Bee was silenced on Twitter over this very issue, and that in part prompted Elon to purchase the platform.

00:07:22.000 The other tech platforms have already decided where they stand in the trans debate, and they demonetize and deprioritize all those who disagree.

00:07:28.000 Now Twitter has joined the ranks of other tech superpowers in ensuring one side of the debate is suppressed.

00:07:32.000 Elon Musk is not beholden to conservatives.

00:07:34.000 He has the right to run his business as he sees fit.

00:07:36.000 But if Twitter is going to throttle one side of the most important debates facing society, it can't claim to champion free speech.

00:07:43.000 Jeremy says, I hope Elon will reconsider this awful policy.

00:07:46.000 If we can't debate these issues on Twitter, where can we debate them?

00:07:48.000 If conservatives aren't welcome on Twitter, where are they welcome?

00:07:51.000 It's unlikely another centibillionaire will come along to offer an alternative.

00:07:54.000 We plan to post the movie anyway tonight at 8 p.m.

00:07:56.000 Eastern.

00:07:57.000 Will Twitter make good on their threat to throttle it and label it hateful conduct?

00:08:00.000 Or will Twitter live up to its great promise?

00:08:02.000 We'll all find out together.

00:08:04.000 The fact that this is even an issue is absurd.

00:08:06.000 Absurd.

00:08:07.000 This film has been seen by millions of people already.

00:08:10.000 Exposing it to millions more people via Twitter was the great promise of Twitter.

00:08:14.000 It is the reason why there is so much hope on the center and center right.

00:08:18.000 And when Twitter was taken over by Elon Musk, there would finally be a free speech platform worth its salt.

00:08:24.000 So we'll see tonight whether Elon Musk lives up to that commitment.

00:08:27.000 But the fact that they actually pre-committed, Twitter did, Twitter corporate, they pre-committed to doing a deal where we could promote the movie, where it would appear, and then they went from that to, if you put it on Matt Walsh's account, we'll throttle it.

00:08:40.000 It demonstrates full-scale how the middle management of these companies, at the very least, has control over the levers of power.

00:08:47.000 And that is deeply frightening.

00:08:48.000 And it's, again, one of the reasons why Pride Month continues to be a propagandistic holiday on behalf of a radical secular religion.

00:08:56.000 We'll get to more on the magic holy month of Pride in one second.

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00:10:02.000 Okay, so as we say, Pride Month is upon us.

00:10:06.000 Corporate America is going all out for Pride Month.

00:10:09.000 Not in the countries where it could actually hurt their business.

00:10:11.000 As we mentioned, GE changed its logo in the United States, but it doesn't change its logo in Saudi Arabia.

00:10:16.000 And you see this with pretty much all the major multinational corporations.

00:10:19.000 They'll change it in the United States.

00:10:20.000 They'll change to Pride progress flags all over the place in the US and in Europe.

00:10:23.000 But when they go to China, not so much.

00:10:26.000 Because, of course they do.

00:10:28.000 Of course they do.

00:10:28.000 Because, in the end, corporate cowardice It operates at every single level.

00:10:35.000 And so, J.Crew, just to take a few examples, J.Crew has now gone woke for the kiddies.

00:10:41.000 They have put out Pride Progress flag t-shirts for children.

00:10:46.000 It's a kid's Pride graphic tee.

00:10:48.000 And it says, love is for everybody.

00:10:50.000 And it's got all the different magical flags on it.

00:10:52.000 It's so exciting.

00:10:54.000 So exciting.

00:10:56.000 And of course, they're not alone.

00:10:57.000 Now, the big question for conservatives is going to be, what do we decide not to shop at?

00:11:03.000 What do we decide to boycott?

00:11:05.000 The answer is we actually have to pick and choose.

00:11:07.000 You can't boycott everything.

00:11:08.000 You gotta pick a few companies and make examples of them.

00:11:11.000 Obviously, one of the companies that has been made an example of is Target.

00:11:14.000 Target is just getting absolutely crushed in the market as well it should.

00:11:18.000 Target's share prices have plunged to the lowest that they have been in years.

00:11:24.000 They've had the longest losing streak that they've had in five years.

00:11:28.000 Their share prices have fallen for eight straight days.

00:11:30.000 They plunged another 3.66% on Tuesday.

00:11:33.000 Reaching $133, okay?

00:11:34.000 That is down a significant percentage, like $12 billion in market cap since the beginning of the boycott against Target, initiated by the fact that they were promoting Pride Progress garbage to small children.

00:11:47.000 In fact, hilariously, the number one song, the number one song on the charts right now, on the iTunes charts, is an anti-Target boycott song.

00:11:58.000 It is a rap song.

00:11:59.000 Called Boycott Target.

00:12:01.000 Rapper Forgiato Blow is the person who recorded this.

00:12:04.000 Accompanied by fellow rappers Jimmy Lavey, Nick Natoli, and Stoney Dude Bro.

00:12:08.000 It was released May 25th in response to the Target's Pride-themed clothing for children.

00:12:12.000 Here's what that song sounds like.

00:12:13.000 So apparently, according to these rappers, they're still being targeted on social media which of

00:12:42.000 course is not particularly shocking

00:12:43.000 I'm preaching And he points out the LGBTQ merch that is targeting small children, including the official rainbow yearbook for kids.

00:12:54.000 This is what corporate America is doing now.

00:12:56.000 We can flex our power, and we have been flexing our power with regard to Target.

00:12:59.000 We flexed our power with regard to Bud Light as well, obviously.

00:13:03.000 But there is no question that this Pride Month, because it is a holy Pride Month, this will turn into a clash of worldviews.

00:13:11.000 That's essentially what we're talking about here.

00:13:13.000 This is not just about gear.

00:13:14.000 And we're talking about celebrating particular forms of viewpoint on gender and sex.

00:13:21.000 When we're talking about that, what we're talking about is a secular religion that is going up against traditional values.

00:13:24.000 That is what Pride Month is about.

00:13:26.000 I'll get to what I mean by all of that in just one second.

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00:14:33.000 Okay, so when I say that we have a clash of religious worldviews, we obviously have a clash of religious worldviews.

00:14:40.000 Here is a great example of this clash.

00:14:43.000 So, according to the LA Daily News, that used to be my hometown paper.

00:14:47.000 We were subscribers back when I lived in North Hollywood.

00:14:50.000 An LGBTQ plus minus divided by sign flag placed in a plant pot outside of a classroom at Sadaquah Elementary School was lit on fire.

00:14:57.000 The flag was destroyed.

00:14:58.000 It is now being investigated as a possible hate crime, according to the LAPD.

00:15:03.000 So let's just be clear about this.

00:15:06.000 The new regime in the United States is that if you burn an American flag, dissent is the height of patriotism, we've been told.

00:15:13.000 It means that you are the best, you're not just American, you are the best American burning an American flag.

00:15:17.000 You know, the flag for which American soldiers have fought, bled, and died.

00:15:21.000 You burn an American flag, you are a hero.

00:15:23.000 You kneel for the American flag, you're a hero. 0.73

00:15:26.000 The American flag, piss on it, All that, not only is that fine, it's just showing how much you love free speech.

00:15:32.000 If you burn a pride flag, if you take a pride flag and you burn that pride flag, you will atone! 0.93

00:15:40.000 You have committed a grave sin, a grave crime, the kind of crime no civilized society should tolerate, burning a pride flag. 1.00

00:15:48.000 Again, burning a flag of our nation, you know, the one that's supposed to unify our nation, that's, no.

00:15:52.000 That's fine.

00:15:53.000 You can do that all day long, you can do that.

00:15:57.000 But the moment, the moment you touch that pride flag, you put that thing down.

00:16:01.000 Now, there is a question that I have, which is why in the world is there a pride flag in elementary school?

00:16:07.000 These are small children.

00:16:08.000 Why are 5-year-olds, 6-year-olds, 7-year-olds being exposed to an ideology that promotes alternative forms of sex?

00:16:16.000 Why?

00:16:17.000 Why is that appropriate for a 5-, 6-, or 7-year-old?

00:16:18.000 I don't think it's appropriate in public school at all. 1.00

00:16:20.000 I think that you should be taught about this stuff by your parents, not by some state-sponsored apparatchik who is going to indoctrinate your children into gender stupidity. 0.99

00:16:29.000 I think that your parents somehow figured out how to have you, so they should be able to explain to you how that happened. 0.99

00:16:34.000 I don't really feel this is that tough.

00:16:36.000 In fact, pretty much everybody I know who is in a religious community of one sort or another believes this.

00:16:40.000 And so does everybody above the age of 50.

00:16:41.000 It is only in the last several decades that we have decided that you must be a state-sponsored single teacher with a cat at home in order to teach kids about how sex works.

00:16:54.000 And not only how sex works, but how all forms of sex work.

00:16:57.000 Because the way that you used to be taught about sex in schools was, here's how sex produces babies, right?

00:17:02.000 This is like a basic biology course.

00:17:04.000 Now, of course, sex ed encompasses everything up and including sex toys for alternative practices.

00:17:11.000 And why they're all so wonderful.

00:17:13.000 So apparently, Pride Progress flags at the elementary school at Sataquoit, totally fine.

00:17:17.000 Somebody burned it.

00:17:18.000 Woo! 0.99

00:17:19.000 Woo! 0.99

00:17:20.000 Man, get the police on that right away.

00:17:22.000 Now, I mean, L.A., where I used to live, is being completely overrun by crime.

00:17:27.000 Homeless people are everywhere.

00:17:28.000 Drug use open on the streets.

00:17:30.000 People being murdered in broad daylight.

00:17:34.000 The city is falling apart, but we have our priorities here in secular left-wing culture.

00:17:40.000 And our priority is that if you touch that, you put that flag down, you stop it, you stop it right now!

00:17:46.000 You cut it out!

00:17:48.000 The school has been the focus of a group of parents who are objecting to an upcoming Pride Day assembly on Friday, June 2nd, at which the school plans to teach children about LGBTQ plus identities during a book reading.

00:17:59.000 Which, again, why is that happening?

00:18:01.000 Why is it necessary to teach small children, like five-year-olds, about gay identity, or intersex identity, or genderqueer identity?

00:18:12.000 The fire incident at the school is being investigated by the LAPD.

00:18:15.000 The investigation is ongoing, they say.

00:18:16.000 It is vandalism.

00:18:17.000 It is hate crime.

00:18:18.000 The hate crime is still significant, but it is a misdemeanor.

00:18:21.000 The blackened planter and burn flag were discovered by school personnel Monday, May 22nd at 6.30 a.m.

00:18:26.000 He did not know when the planter and flag were burned.

00:18:28.000 This says the police and there are no suspects.

00:18:31.000 Now they're preemptively blaming all of the conservative parents.

00:18:35.000 Anna, a parent in the group who asked that her name not be published in the interest of her family's safety, said she doesn't believe any member of her group is responsible for the possible hate crime.

00:18:42.000 Now, listen.

00:18:44.000 It could theoretically be literally a false flag.

00:18:47.000 That is not a dim possibility.

00:18:49.000 Very often in cases like this where there is a, hey, somebody hung a noose.

00:18:53.000 It turns out that the person who hung a noose was some sort of activist who wanted to bring attention to a thing.

00:18:57.000 It's quite possible that this is a person at the school who was in favor of the Pride Progress flag being shown to three-year-olds and decided, what if I burn this flag and then nobody knows who did it and then they blame the conservatives and then I get to act like a victim?

00:19:10.000 That would not be out of bounds.

00:19:11.000 Many of these cases end up being hoaxes in the United States.

00:19:13.000 We don't know that.

00:19:14.000 Maybe it's not a hoax, but it could very well be a hoax.

00:19:17.000 It's a national story anyway.

00:19:19.000 We now live in a country where it is a national news story for a person to burn a flag that has particular colors on it.

00:19:25.000 So long as those colors aren't the American flag.

00:19:28.000 Right, not national news if kids are getting generally mutilated at hospitals across the country for no reason.

00:19:36.000 Yes, national news when it comes to the burning of the Pride Progress flag, because of course this is a religious flag. 0.80

00:19:40.000 So what did they do?

00:19:41.000 Well, they put another LGBTQ pride flag hanging outside a teacher's classroom, now covering the window, which is really exciting stuff.

00:19:52.000 According to the principal, He said that his group and the teacher have draped a larger LGBTQ plus flag on the teacher's classroom window.

00:20:01.000 We raised that flag to let them know we are going to be stronger and united.

00:20:06.000 So, again, this is the way that our secular culture works.

00:20:09.000 And this does have some pretty significant ramifications for our broader society.

00:20:13.000 We'll get to that momentarily.

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00:20:18.000 Okay, so we had Mom's Day, right?

00:20:19.000 That is the day where we celebrate the female of the species who actually progenerate children. 0.99

00:20:23.000 I know these are... I have to define terms now.

00:20:24.000 We're also having Father's Day.

00:20:26.000 That is coming up in the near future.

00:20:27.000 That celebrates the male of the species who also help in the process of progeneration and then raise their children in masculine fashion.

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00:21:26.000 Alrighty, so why does any of this matter?

00:21:28.000 Well, there are a few reasons.

00:21:29.000 First of all, there are obvious symptomatic reasons why this matters.

00:21:32.000 So, for example, Pride Month now celebrates the idea that men can be women and women can be men. 0.97

00:21:37.000 This has some pretty dramatic ramifications for particular people's lives, up to and including women just getting the crap kicked out of them. 0.97

00:21:44.000 So, there is apparently a trans activist named Riley Dennis. 0.99

00:21:48.000 Riley Dennis likes to play soccer and injure women. 0.99

00:21:52.000 And he's all out of soccer.

00:21:54.000 So, Redux now has tape of Riley Dennis basically just destroying some lady while they're playing soccer.

00:22:00.000 Here we go.

00:22:05.000 Riley Dennis is the very large gentleman who is running after this much smaller woman.

00:22:10.000 Riley Dennis falls down.

00:22:12.000 There's the woman. 1.00

00:22:13.000 Bam! 0.99

00:22:14.000 And down goes the lady because men just beating the crap out of women so long as they pretend that they're women is totally fine. 0.99

00:22:20.000 No problem whatsoever. 0.99

00:22:22.000 Always good.

00:22:23.000 So, you know, there are obviously a lot of specific instances like this in the sporting world.

00:22:28.000 It's obviously true that when you have people like Dylan Mulvaney cosplaying as women, it isn't making a mockery of women, that you are erasing women.

00:22:34.000 It is female erasure to pretend that a man can be a woman. 1.00

00:22:38.000 But it also has sort of deeper, malign problems.

00:22:42.000 Okay, so one of those malign problems, obviously, is the transing of the children. 1.00

00:22:45.000 The idea that a boy can become a girl or a girl can become a boy is the height of perversion. 0.98

00:22:49.000 There is no scientific evidence to back this.

00:22:50.000 In fact, all science suggests precisely the opposite.

00:22:53.000 And so the generation of vast numbers of kids who are now going to be sucked into sexual fluidity and gender ideology, those numbers are extraordinary.

00:23:04.000 We are seeing thousands of percentage point increases in quote-unquote trans identity.

00:23:08.000 We are seeing 21% of people who are born between 1998 and 2004 now identifying as LGBTQ plus minus divided by sign.

00:23:18.000 Is any of that good for human fulfillment?

00:23:19.000 Is any of that good for human society?

00:23:20.000 Is that good for the progeneration of society in general?

00:23:23.000 Of course not.

00:23:24.000 Of course not.

00:23:25.000 And it's not just because of this particular wing of movement.

00:23:28.000 It is because this Pride Month is itself a symptom. 0.83

00:23:32.000 It is a symptom of the complete reorientation of human fulfillment away from how do you serve a community?

00:23:38.000 How do you build social connections?

00:23:39.000 How do you build for the next generation?

00:23:41.000 And toward what do I want to screw?

00:23:44.000 Okay, that transformation, which really began, as I've mentioned before, in the early 19th century with the Romantic Movement, with Shelley and his compatriots, this idea that the true you is what lay on the inside, and it really was your sexual desire, and any imposition on that sexual desire was an imposition on the true you and threatened your authenticity.

00:24:03.000 That's really broken out into the open in Western society since the 1960s.

00:24:07.000 You combine that feeling, which has to be, again, rooted in a narcissistic belief that there is nothing outside of you, And that itself is rooted in a secular atheistic perspective on the world.

00:24:17.000 These things are deeply connected on a philosophical level.

00:24:20.000 People who tend to believe that there is no higher meaning that can be discerned in the world.

00:24:25.000 There is no natural law.

00:24:26.000 There is no God.

00:24:27.000 There is no revelation.

00:24:28.000 There's none of that stuff.

00:24:29.000 That basically the only thing that exists in the world is what you make of it.

00:24:32.000 And that the most important part of you is your sexual desire.

00:24:35.000 That perspective has deep and abiding societal consequences.

00:24:38.000 As I mentioned before, that perspective sort of existed under the surface in Western civilization throughout the 19th century and for most of the 20th century, but it really broke out into the open in the 60s.

00:24:47.000 The reason that it broke out into the open in the 60s particularly is because the consequences of that ideology were pretty grave for most of human history.

00:24:54.000 If you're a person who believed that the only thing that mattered was sexual pleasure up until like 1960, chances were you were gonna have babies out of wedlock, you were gonna get a sexual disease, right?

00:25:03.000 There were a lot of actual real-world consequences to that.

00:25:06.000 Then in the 1960s, with the rise of birth control pills, with the rise of medical care and all the rest of this, with the rise of a welfare system that took care of your problems for you, what you ended up with was a society where the consequence of your own actions were now attenuated from your behavior.

00:25:19.000 And so now you literally could say, okay, I will lead my happiest life because there'll be no real-world consequences for my behavior.

00:25:26.000 And everybody will be forced to accept me.

00:25:28.000 The reification of the individualistic, animistic individualistic identity rooted in sex was finally able to conquer all. 0.82

00:25:37.000 And that is where we are right now.

00:25:38.000 And the consequences for that are extraordinarily dire.

00:25:42.000 One of the consequences for that is that no one's having babies.

00:25:45.000 Now I know that this is supposed to be a matter of indifference to people in Western civilization.

00:25:49.000 I just have a question.

00:25:50.000 Why?

00:25:50.000 Why would that possibly be a matter of indifference?

00:25:53.000 Literally, the purpose of a human being is to progenerate the species.

00:25:57.000 Even from, put aside religion, from an evolutionary biological perspective, the purpose of being a human is to have more humans.

00:26:04.000 It is to progenerate, from a religious perspective and from any decent perspective, good values down to a next generation to transform the world in a better way on behalf of your children.

00:26:14.000 That is the intergenerational link is what makes you a better person.

00:26:17.000 A person living on a desert island in complete atomistic isolation can't be good.

00:26:22.000 There's no standard of good or bad living on a desert island by yourself.

00:26:26.000 The standard for good or bad really begins to apply in societies.

00:26:30.000 And you really only have the ability to carry out your fulfillment as a human being when you start thinking about generations beyond yourself, like beyond when you die.

00:26:38.000 But in the United States, we no longer think like that.

00:26:41.000 According to the Wall Street Journal today, about 3.66 million babies were born in the United States in 2022.

00:26:45.000 That's essentially unchanged from 2021 and 15% below the peak hit in 2007.

00:26:51.000 The provisional total is 3,000 below 2021's final count.

00:26:56.000 We are now seeing the number of deaths in the United States approaching the number of births in the United States overall, which would obviously mark a decline in population.

00:27:05.000 Total fertility is well below replacement levels.

00:27:07.000 It is 1.665.

00:27:08.000 You need a fertility rate of 2.1 children per woman. 1.00

00:27:11.000 That's the replacement rate for human beings if your population is growing.

00:27:16.000 1.665 means that the population is shrinking, which means that you have to rely on immigration in order to fill in that gap.

00:27:21.000 In fact, the only fertility rates that are increasing in the country right now are fertility rates for Asian Americans and fertility rates for Hispanic Americans.

00:27:29.000 Those are the only ones that are increased in the country right now.

00:27:32.000 Since 2016, The fertility rate for white Americans has dropped from 58 or so live births per 1,000 women aged 15 to 44, all the way down to 52.

00:27:44.000 In the black families, it's significantly larger.

00:27:48.000 Birth rates continue to decline among young people.

00:27:51.000 And again, this is because when you start thinking of yourself as basically a machine for sexual hedonism, you don't tend to care too much about having babies or building family units, which are the predicate for having a functional society.

00:28:03.000 Fascinating article by Mary Harrington over at UnHerd called Why Gen Z Prefers Dogs to Babies.

00:28:09.000 And she talks about the fact that people have decided that they are not going to have kids anymore.

00:28:14.000 This is true, by the way.

00:28:15.000 In San Francisco, there are now more pets than there are children.

00:28:18.000 So she's actually writing about London.

00:28:20.000 She's not even writing about the United States.

00:28:23.000 Pets at Home CEO, Lisa McGowan, thinks some of these young people have redirected their caring urges toward pets.

00:28:28.000 They're taking all that time and energy and attention and putting it into fur babies, especially in urban areas.

00:28:32.000 McGowan speculates this is happening because the classic milestones of adult life, like getting your own place, seem increasingly out of reach to many thanks to scarce housing, rising costs, and stagnant wages.

00:28:41.000 This feels plausible, but is that all there is to it?

00:28:44.000 Prospects for Gen Z are not as optimistic as for their boomer grandparents, but in absolute terms, human societies have lived through greater turbulence and gone on having kids. 0.54

00:28:51.000 Liberal feminist Jill Filipovich argues if more women are opting to have fewer or no kids, it isn't so much about the financial pinch. 0.99

00:28:57.000 Certainly among dog walker acquaintances locally, I can think of several childless younger millennial heterosexual couples who seem pretty sorted.

00:29:03.000 Good jobs, comfortably off, ideally situated.

00:29:06.000 They're picking dogs instead of kids.

00:29:09.000 So why exactly is that happening?

00:29:12.000 I mean, the reason that that's happening is because we as a society have declined to have children.

00:29:16.000 We do not think that the most important thing is building for the future anymore.

00:29:20.000 We don't think family structure is all that important anymore.

00:29:25.000 She says, imagine you've grown up with a set of messages that suggest that sex is just a fun leisure activity and that all forms of sexual intimacy are morally equivalent.

00:29:37.000 A worldview that presents embodiment, sexuality, desire, and intimacy as coruscating, infinitely varied expressive options in which what anyone does should be limited only by individual preference and mutual consent.

00:29:47.000 Imagine you've grown up with that set of messages.

00:29:49.000 Now imagine you're detecting yourself a buried hankering to be a mother or father.

00:29:53.000 Well, what do you do?

00:29:53.000 You have a dog!

00:29:54.000 Because it runs directly up against the individualistic sexual hedonism notion for you to have babies because now you actually have to think about values and think about a family structure and think about hemming in your sexual urges and desires and think about something beyond your genitals or your general orientation or urges.

00:30:10.000 And of course the stats show this.

00:30:12.000 The people who are not having kids in our society are atheists. 0.80

00:30:15.000 If you look at, again, this does not mean that all atheists are irresponsibly hedonistic, of course.

00:30:20.000 There are many atheists who are not.

00:30:21.000 It does not mean all religious people are traditional in the way that they perform their lives.

00:30:25.000 They are not.

00:30:26.000 But, if you're looking at ideologies overall, an atheistic, individualistic ideology that suggests that all fulfillment is to be found in pleasure and pain, and that pleasure and pain is most choice when it comes to sexual activity, That is a society that is very, very unlikely to be durable.

00:30:40.000 A society that's not gonna generate kids, it's not gonna generate family units, it's not gonna have a future orientation, it's gonna be a society that falls apart.

00:30:47.000 And so, from that perspective, this really isn't even about Pride Month, per se.

00:30:50.000 It's just that Pride Month is the final sort of manifestation, it's the form of the destroyer, in the sense that if civilization is predicated on future orientation, commitment to the family unit, generation of children in a father-mother household, and you have an entire month celebrated by corporate America and government rejecting all of those things, Or at the very least pretending that that isn't a question of apathy to the institutions that be. 0.59

00:31:13.000 That there is moral apathy that really any of these choices are fine.

00:31:17.000 You decide you want to live in a polyamorous polycule in the Bahamas with no kids or you decide that you are going to get married to a woman and have four kids and live inside a religious community and it's a matter of complete social apathy.

00:31:28.000 Which one of these you choose?

00:31:30.000 In fact, we should be proud of the first choice.

00:31:32.000 The first choice, you should be prouder of it because to be a member of the indoctrinated class, to be a person who has given in to societal systems and institutions means that you have betrayed your authentic self.

00:31:44.000 Which is, of course, why you should be proud of being a member of the second group.

00:31:47.000 You have to have a pride month for the first group. 1.00

00:31:51.000 This is how civilizations fall apart, obviously, and that has nothing to do with With whether people are gay or straight, it has to do with societal orientations towards future, towards family, towards family unit, towards the difference between male and female. 0.54

00:32:07.000 And so, as I say, Pride Month is less a cause than a symptom of a deep-rooted philosophy that has taken hold in the West, a post-Enlightenment philosophy, a romantic philosophy that rejects societal associations and institutions that actually create a durable humanity in favor of individualistic sexual excess.

00:32:24.000 That is what we are celebrating this month, and it does have real societal consequences, as the West is about to find out, and find out hard.

00:32:30.000 In just one second, the House of Representatives did indeed pass that debt ceiling increase.

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00:34:14.000 Okay, meanwhile, you know, as we've been talking about with regard to Pride Month, the media have portrayed it as though Florida is an absolute hellhole for gay people, right? 0.98

00:34:22.000 It's just, it's just terrible.

00:34:23.000 Because again, the media like to draw this sort of false dichotomy.

00:34:26.000 The false dichotomy is this. 0.98

00:34:28.000 Either you accept wholesale the left-wing Pride Month agenda, or you must be Uganda, and you want to like just go after gay people and prosecute them and put them in jail. 0.94

00:34:36.000 Or alternatively, none of that's true and we just don't want indoctrination of the children.

00:34:40.000 Well, remember that time the entire media said about the state of Florida that you couldn't say gay in the state of Florida, which is weird because I live in the state of Florida and I have many gay friends who live in the state of Florida and they all seem fine to me.

00:34:51.000 Like Dave Rubin and his husband, they're fine.

00:34:54.000 In fact, they kind of like it here.

00:34:56.000 Well, according to Associated Press, which again has proclaimed that Florida is an unsafe place for

00:35:01.000 gay people, quote, tens of thousands of LGBTQ plus people are flocking to central Florida this weekend

00:35:06.000 to go on theme park rides, mingle with costume performers, dance at all night parties and lounge

00:35:10.000 pool sided hotels during gay days, a decades long tradition.

00:35:12.000 Even though Governor Ron DeSantis and Florida lawmakers have championed a slew of anti LGBTQ plus

00:35:18.000 laws, spurring the most prominent gay rights group in the United States to issue travel

00:35:22.000 warnings to the Sunshine State, gay days organizers are still encouraging visitors from around the

00:35:26.000 world to come to one of Florida's largest gay and lesbian celebrations.

00:35:30.000 Well, yeah, I mean, clearly, wow.

00:35:32.000 Maybe it's just a giant sting operation.

00:35:34.000 Maybe this is all just a magnet.

00:35:36.000 Governor DeSantis is going to arrive with the fascist Central Florida Police Force and just round everybody up.

00:35:42.000 Or alternatively, none of that was true in the first place.

00:35:44.000 But you can always trust the media to make sure that they are lying.

00:35:48.000 Okay, meanwhile, the House of Representatives did in fact pass a debt ceiling deal.

00:35:53.000 That deal was struck by Joe Biden and Kevin McCarthy.

00:35:56.000 I've made clear that I frankly don't care all that much about the debt ceiling deal.

00:36:00.000 The reason I don't care that much about the debt ceiling deal is because the kind of cuts that McCarthy achieved from Biden are more than I think people expected, certainly, people expected that Joe Biden was going to run roughshod over McCarthy and that he was going to be able to just increase the debt ceiling with literally no concessions to McCarthy.

00:36:17.000 Instead, McCarthy was able to cap spending at 20-22 levels.

00:36:22.000 The only part of the spending that is not capped inside the non-mandatory spending is defense spending.

00:36:29.000 Which means that a lot of the discretionary spending actually will decline in future years.

00:36:32.000 It's not what you'd wanted.

00:36:33.000 It's not what Chip Roy wanted.

00:36:34.000 It's not what I would want in an ideal world.

00:36:36.000 The reason I say I don't care all that much about it is because if you actually want to take on the systemic debt and spending problem in the United States, you have to touch the mandatory spending.

00:36:42.000 The mandatory spending represents 62% of federal spending every single year.

00:36:47.000 Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, all these other benefits.

00:36:50.000 That stuff represents two-thirds of American spending.

00:36:52.000 Another 10% is in the net interest category.

00:36:55.000 So that's 72%.

00:36:56.000 And then another 13 or so percent is defense spending.

00:36:59.000 So you're talking about arguing over the remaining 15%.

00:37:01.000 And whether that 15% is going to go up or down incrementally over the course of the next 10 years.

00:37:05.000 That is not going to solve the debt crisis in the United States.

00:37:09.000 So I'm glad that McCarthy was able to exact some concessions from Biden.

00:37:12.000 I think he showed up, Biden.

00:37:13.000 I think that he actually showed power over his own coalition, which, by the way, is not a bad thing.

00:37:17.000 I know there's this belief inside the conservative movement and the Republican Party that you can never allow leadership to have sort of a whip hand with its own caucus.

00:37:25.000 You want to know why Democrats get things done?

00:37:27.000 Because they vote in lockstep.

00:37:28.000 That is the reason why they get things done.

00:37:30.000 Nancy Pelosi ran that thing like a machine. 1.00

00:37:33.000 And even Chuck Schumer, who's not very good at it, He tends to run things, kind of like a machine.

00:37:38.000 He's got a problem with mansion and cinema, but everybody else votes in lockstep unison.

00:37:41.000 Republicans were a fractious crew, but the reality is that if you want to get something done inside the House of Representatives, the Speaker of the House, if you're a Republican, does actually have to have the power to do the thing.

00:37:52.000 Now, that doesn't mean you can't put pressure on him.

00:37:53.000 I'm glad Chip Roy was sounding off on this stuff in the same way that I'm glad that Chip Roy exacted concessions from Kevin McCarthy when McCarthy was trying to become Speaker of the House.

00:38:01.000 But the sort of outsized wailing and gnashing of teeth?

00:38:05.000 Let's be real about this.

00:38:06.000 The spending problem in the United States is the Titanic headed toward an iceberg.

00:38:09.000 The iceberg is right there.

00:38:10.000 We can rearrange the deck chairs as much as we want.

00:38:12.000 And maybe there are better or worse positions for the deck chairs.

00:38:15.000 Maybe if we move the deck chairs closer to the railings, that'll be better for the people who are aboard the Titanic.

00:38:20.000 Makes for a quicker exit.

00:38:22.000 But reality speaking, it's the iceberg that's the problem.

00:38:25.000 Everybody's going to ignore that iceberg until we hit it.

00:38:27.000 And then we're all going to yell at each other about the deck chairs.

00:38:29.000 That's really what happened with regard to this debt ceiling deal.

00:38:33.000 Now, the truth is...

00:38:35.000 Democrats are pretty upset about this.

00:38:36.000 They voted in larger numbers than Republicans did for the bill.

00:38:39.000 Mainly because, again, once Democratic leadership says a thing, Democrats just do it.

00:38:43.000 It's just a testament to the power of the Democratic caucus when it comes to their leadership contingent.

00:38:47.000 Their leadership contingent is very strong.

00:38:50.000 This thing passed by a 314 to 117 vote.

00:38:52.000 It relied on support from both Republicans and Democrats.

00:38:56.000 As a percentage, more Democrats than Republicans voted in favor of the deal.

00:39:01.000 Chip Roy said, my beef is you cut a deal that shouldn't have been cut.

00:39:05.000 Some Senate Republicans have threatened to slow the passage.

00:39:08.000 They have agreed to cut through procedural hurdles if they're granted amendment votes, but unlikely they're going to get the amendment votes, considering that, again, Democrats have control of the Senate.

00:39:17.000 So they're going to be able to ram this thing through.

00:39:20.000 Again, this is the thing.

00:39:20.000 McCarthy is negotiating with a Democratic Senate and a Democratic President.

00:39:23.000 Pretending that he's negotiating with Donald Trump and a Republican Senate is wrong.

00:39:26.000 And let's be real about this, too.

00:39:27.000 There was a point at which we had a Republican House, Senate, and President.

00:39:30.000 And you know what happened to spending?

00:39:31.000 It went this direction.

00:39:32.000 It went up.

00:39:35.000 The bill would cut spending on domestic priorities favored by Democrats in fiscal 2024 while boosting military spending by about 3%.

00:39:41.000 It then sets a 1% cap on spending increases for the 2025 fiscal year.

00:39:46.000 I understand why many conservatives are upset with the deal.

00:39:49.000 They wanted more.

00:39:49.000 I get it.

00:39:50.000 Again, the reason I'm not putting significant focus on it is because the more that we want is not going to be solved by a debt ceiling fight.

00:39:56.000 It's just not going to happen.

00:39:58.000 For his part, Mitch McConnell congratulated McCarthy on getting the deal through.

00:40:03.000 I think Speaker McCarthy should be congratulated on capturing a number of priorities.

00:40:12.000 And the best way to look at the difference, two years ago, we were in the process of spending 1.9 trillion dollars And then last year, another $750 billion.

00:40:31.000 So we've gone from one party spending $2.7 trillion in two years to a discussion about actually reducing government spending.

00:40:46.000 So I think the American people's decision to change the House has already yielded benefits for our country.

00:40:54.000 You can hate Mitch McConnell, that's who's a manipulator, par excellence, and what he's saying there is not wrong.

00:40:59.000 It is not wrong. 0.83

00:40:59.000 Now, let's be clear about this too. 0.83

00:41:01.000 The Republicans did vote in majority for the bill.

00:41:05.000 So there used to be a rule, it was called the Hastert Rule, and the basic idea was that if you couldn't get a majority of your own party on board, you shouldn't put a bill up for a vote.

00:41:11.000 McCarthy didn't just have a majority of his own party, he had like two to one inside his own party voting for the bill.

00:41:16.000 149 to 71.

00:41:16.000 Democrats voted 165 to 46 for the bill.

00:41:21.000 Remember, the question a second ago was whether McCarthy could even run his caucus.

00:41:25.000 Now McCarthy has exacted concessions from Joe Biden.

00:41:29.000 He has run his caucus.

00:41:30.000 He's overcome a speakership challenge, right?

00:41:33.000 There just aren't the votes for it.

00:41:35.000 And that's not a bad thing.

00:41:37.000 You know, the parties being able to actually control their members when it comes to voting is probably a good thing.

00:41:43.000 As I say, Democrats are not super... They're trying to pretend that they're not upset about it.

00:41:45.000 They're kind of upset about it.

00:41:46.000 Here's James Clyburn saying, I wish we could just get rid of the debt ceiling entirely.

00:41:51.000 I don't think a lot of people understand that if we allowed the country to go into default, the people at the bottom of the economic ladder would have been in a catastrophic place.

00:42:03.000 These are people who have given their all and we ought to be taking care of them.

00:42:08.000 And so, no, we should not allow them to be jeopardized with their quality of life while we argue over political stuff.

00:42:18.000 So, you know, I'm not a proponent.

00:42:20.000 Of having a debt limit.

00:42:21.000 I don't think we ought to have that at all.

00:42:23.000 I've done the study on this, I understand Denmark may be the only other country, uh, democracy that's got one.

00:42:29.000 And even if, their debt limit is three times above what their budget is.

00:42:35.000 So, I don't know why we have this debt limit.

00:42:37.000 I wish we'd just get this thing behind us, pass this bill tonight, and let's, next week, start working on getting rid of the debt limit altogether.

00:42:49.000 Okay, again, that's what Democrats would have preferred.

00:42:51.000 McCarthy not only did not give them that, he actually exacted concessions from a Democratic Senate and a Democratic President.

00:42:58.000 So, that is where things currently stand.

00:43:01.000 Is that something the Republicans should look—should they look at that in the mouth and be upset about that?

00:43:05.000 I'm wondering just why.

00:43:07.000 Why can't you just take, like, take the victory?

00:43:09.000 Take the W, guys.

00:43:10.000 You beat Biden on this one.

00:43:12.000 Take the W. Okay, meanwhile, the 2016 race continues to heat up.

00:43:16.000 More and more people are jumping in.

00:43:17.000 I just, I don't understand quite why.

00:43:19.000 It doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

00:43:20.000 So apparently, Mike Pence is now going to jump into the race.

00:43:25.000 He is the, of course, former Vice President to Donald Trump.

00:43:27.000 Trump is very angry at him because he didn't overturn the election, which he had no legal power to do.

00:43:30.000 It was absurd.

00:43:31.000 But Mike Pence wants to jump into the race.

00:43:33.000 He's going to do a kickoff speech in Des Moines, Iowa.

00:43:37.000 It's going to be very difficult for him because, again, Trump has basically destroyed his reputation among the Republican base for no reason.

00:43:42.000 I mean, he was a good soldier during the entirety of the administration.

00:43:45.000 He just refused to, you know, overturn an election that he had no legal power to overturn.

00:43:50.000 But this makes him bad now.

00:43:52.000 According to a person familiar with Pence's plans, quote, Is it fair that Mike Pence has been sort of cast off the political stage?

00:43:56.000 I don't think that's fair.

00:43:57.000 as a pivotal player. It's a place that values Pence's principles, deep-rooted faith, and

00:44:00.000 uncommon character. Now, again, is it fair that Mike Pence has been sort of cast off

00:44:03.000 the political stage? I don't think that's fair. I like Vice President Pence.

00:44:08.000 And I think he's a good man.

00:44:10.000 Is he somebody who's going to win a primary?

00:44:12.000 I have a hard time seeing how.

00:44:13.000 Speaking of other people who are not going to win a primary, Chris Christie continues to tilt at that windmill.

00:44:20.000 The leaning tower of pizza.

00:44:21.000 That dude is still running.

00:44:24.000 Or should I say waddling. 0.97

00:44:26.000 He is a former close Trump ally who calls the former president a coward and a puppet of Putin.

00:44:30.000 But that's only after he, you know, ran around fetching him coffee for like a couple of years and after he performed the most famous political murder-suicide of my lifetime where he took out Marco Rubio in the New Hampshire primaries and simultaneously took himself out.

00:44:43.000 It's like a political suicide bomber.

00:44:45.000 And now he's back and better than ever being obnoxious.

00:44:48.000 Again, Chris Christie has become a joke.

00:44:50.000 Whether it is Bridgegate or whether it is him In the middle of, like, a shutdown on a beach somewhere in New Jersey, like, hanging out.

00:44:58.000 Chris Christie, man.

00:44:59.000 Why?

00:45:00.000 Just why?

00:45:01.000 The media love him because he's really pugnacious and aggressive, but I don't see it at all.

00:45:08.000 What is the purpose of this thing?

00:45:11.000 And the real question is, whose interests is he going to serve?

00:45:13.000 Is he going to be like some of the other candidates who are already in the race and spend all of his fire on DeSantis?

00:45:18.000 Are we going to get a repeat of 2016 where Trump doesn't have more than 40% of the vote, but he ends up winning the primaries anyway just because everybody else is like a crab pot?

00:45:25.000 Everybody's just clawing each other down into the pot?

00:45:28.000 Is that what we're about to see?

00:45:30.000 And meanwhile, the conflict between DeSantis and Trump is escalating.

00:45:33.000 And again, the contrast between how Trump goes after DeSantis and how DeSantis goes after Trump is quite a thing to see.

00:45:40.000 So, Trump went after DeSantis recently by saying that Andrew Cuomo did a better job in New York than DeSantis did in Florida, which is absurd.

00:45:48.000 It is absurd.

00:45:49.000 DeSantis responded by speaking to policy.

00:45:53.000 Here is how DeSantis responded to that.

00:45:56.000 So you talked about changing your tone a little bit with former President Trump.

00:46:00.000 I don't believe you mentioned him here by name tonight, but does this mean you're going to be a bit more aggressive with campaigning against him?

00:46:07.000 So look, I'm going to respond to attacks.

00:46:12.000 I mean, if you say Cuomo did a better job with COVID than Florida did, first of all, that's not what he used to say.

00:46:19.000 This is new.

00:46:20.000 Six months ago, he would have never said that, right?

00:46:22.000 He used to say how great Florida was.

00:46:24.000 Hell, his whole family moved to Florida under my governorship.

00:46:27.000 Are you kidding me?

00:46:30.000 So some of this stuff, I think, is, look, if someone is saying that, I am going to counterpunch.

00:46:37.000 I'm going to fight back on it.

00:46:40.000 Okay, so he is right about that.

00:46:41.000 So it's a content-labeled response, right?

00:46:44.000 He's not insulting Trump personally.

00:46:45.000 He's like, uh, dude, your entire family moved down here, and you were praising me until five seconds ago about COVID, and now I'm running against you, and suddenly I'm worse than Andrew Cuomo.

00:46:55.000 So that's how DeSantis responds to attack.

00:46:56.000 Here is how Donald Trump responds to Ron DeSantis.

00:47:00.000 He posted this on, this is a press release, an official press release from the Donald Trump campaign, the Trump Make America Great Again 2024 campaign.

00:47:10.000 In case you missed it, truth from President Donald J. Trump.

00:47:13.000 Have you heard?

00:47:14.000 Rob DeSanctimonious wants to change his name again.

00:47:18.000 He's demanding the people call him DeSantis rather than DaSantis.

00:47:25.000 Actually, I like Da better, a nicer flow.

00:47:28.000 So I'm happy he's changing it.

00:47:29.000 He gets very upset when people, including reporters, don't pronounce it correctly.

00:47:33.000 Therefore, he shouldn't mind.

00:47:35.000 DeSanctimonious.

00:47:39.000 Ah, a substantive, deep cut right there.

00:47:43.000 Really going after the things that matter.

00:47:46.000 Rob DeSantibonis!

00:47:49.000 If this is the sort of thing you think is going to win a presidential election against Joe Biden, I urge you to vote for this.

00:47:54.000 If you think, however, that perhaps the best lines of attack are not calling a person named Ron, Rob, and then suggesting that it is a matter of public concern whether his name is pronounced DeSantis versus DeSantis, I don't know.

00:48:08.000 I have doubts on that campaign strategy.

00:48:10.000 I don't know.

00:48:11.000 Call me crazy.

00:48:12.000 I just don't think it's an amazing campaign strategy.

00:48:14.000 Okay, time for some things I like and some things I hate.

00:48:16.000 So, things that I like today.

00:48:17.000 John Cleese, who has become increasingly conservative over the years, not because he's super conservative, but just because he has not gone along with the woke left, and he happens to be a person who does comedy for a living.

00:48:28.000 He's become very annoyed with the realities of the left in which jokes that are certainly funny have become un-woke and therefore verboten.

00:48:36.000 There's been a push now.

00:48:37.000 To remove a scene from Life of Brian, in which one of the characters declares that he wants to become a woman because he wishes to become pregnant, and everyone makes fun of him because it's absurd.

00:48:45.000 Here is the scene from Life of Brian.

00:48:46.000 Provided the movement never forgets that it is the inalienable right of every man- Or woman.

00:48:52.000 Or woman.

00:48:53.000 To rid himself- Or herself. 0.94

00:48:54.000 Or herself.

00:48:55.000 Agreed.

00:48:55.000 Thank you, brother.

00:48:56.000 Or sister.

00:48:59.000 Where was I?

00:49:01.000 I think you're finished.

00:49:03.000 Oh, right. 0.97

00:49:04.000 Furthermore, it is the birthright of every man or woman... Why don't you shut up about women, Stan? 0.93

00:49:09.000 You're putting us off.

00:49:10.000 Women have a perfect right to play a part in our movement, Reg. 1.00

00:49:13.000 Why are you always on about women, Stan?

00:49:16.000 I want to be one.

00:49:19.000 What?

00:49:21.000 I want to be a woman.

00:49:23.000 From now on, I want you all to call me Loretta.

00:49:28.000 What?

00:49:29.000 It's my right as a man.

00:49:31.000 Why do you want to be Loretta, Stan?

00:49:35.000 I want to have babies.

00:49:38.000 You want to have babies? 1.00

00:49:40.000 It's every man's right to have babies if he wants them.

00:49:42.000 But you can't have babies! 1.00

00:49:44.000 Don't you oppress me.

00:49:45.000 I'm not oppressing you, Stan.

00:49:47.000 You haven't got a womb.

00:49:49.000 Where's the fetus gonna gestate?

00:49:51.000 You're gonna keep it in a box?

00:49:57.000 Here, I've got an idea.

00:49:58.000 Suppose you agree that he can't actually have babies, not having a womb, which is nobody's fault, not even the Romans, but that he can have the right to have babies.

00:50:08.000 Good idea, Judith.

00:50:09.000 We shall fight the oppressors for your right to have babies, brother.

00:50:13.000 Sister, sorry.

00:50:14.000 What's the point?

00:50:16.000 What?

00:50:16.000 What's the point of fighting for his right to have babies when he can't have babies?

00:50:23.000 It is symbolic of our struggle against oppression.

00:50:28.000 Symbolically struggling against reality.

00:50:29.000 It's still on the nose man.

00:50:32.000 Ah!

00:50:33.000 It's so on the nose, right?

00:50:34.000 So you watch that scene and you're like, that's the actual argument we're having now.

00:50:37.000 So the left, of course, is very angry at this because it was in a comedy, one of the funniest comedies ever made, Life of Brian.

00:50:42.000 And so Cleese went on Twitter and he said, a few days ago I spoke to an audience outside London.

00:50:47.000 I told them I was adapting Life of Brian so we could do it as a stage show, not a musical.

00:50:51.000 I said we'd had a table reading of the latest draft in New York City a year ago and that all the actors, several of them Tony winners, had advised me strongly to cut the Loretta scene.

00:50:58.000 I have, of course, no intention of doing so.

00:51:01.000 So there's been a lot of talk in the media about the possibility of him cutting the scene.

00:51:05.000 He said, that's absurd.

00:51:06.000 He said, these were absolutely top class Broadway performers.

00:51:08.000 They were adamant.

00:51:09.000 We would not get away with doing a scene in New York.

00:51:11.000 I asked him, are Python fans not going to come because we're doing a scene they've been laughing at for 40 years?

00:51:16.000 And then he said, producers tend to be scaredy cats.

00:51:17.000 They don't remember that the protest in New York City when Brian was released meant we never needed to do publicity.

00:51:23.000 Well, good for John Cleese, and unfortunately that is the reality in which we now live.

00:51:27.000 People are so scared of performing like old comedy, and people have said this about Blazing Saddles and pretty much all the Mel Brooks movies from the 60s and 70s, that you could not make any of those today?

00:51:37.000 That is a funny scene, and the reason it is funny is because it is an absurdity for a man to claim that he has the right to have a baby, or that he is a woman, or that he has a womb, or any of the rest of this.

00:51:47.000 Everyone knows it's a war with reality.

00:51:48.000 But you're not allowed to say that anymore, because to laugh at the thing is what destroys the thing.

00:51:53.000 This is the thing the left really knows.

00:51:54.000 We are forced to take seriously their most absurd contentions.

00:51:58.000 And the minute you take it seriously, now you're playing their game.

00:52:02.000 Because the burden of proof shifts from you, from them, to you.

00:52:06.000 They used to have to explain why violation of reality and embrace of absolute absurdity was a good idea.

00:52:12.000 But the minute that you start engaging in the conversation now, the burden of proof shifts to you to explain why your way of life is superior, why your logic is superior.

00:52:21.000 Well, the proper response to completely absurd things is to laugh at them.

00:52:25.000 And when you take laughter off the table, it takes away a giant weapon, which is why the left is trying to take it off the table in the first place.

00:52:30.000 Okay, another thing that I like.

00:52:32.000 So San Francisco...

00:52:33.000 is having some real tourism problems.

00:52:35.000 Also, people are moving out of the city at an extraordinary rate because it turns out that

00:52:39.000 generally people don't like going to downtown districts that have no stores because they've all been shoplifted

00:52:43.000 out of existence and they're not real fond of watching people shoot up and die on the streets.

00:52:48.000 They're not big fans of being assaulted in public and all the rest of it.

00:52:51.000 Well, San Francisco has decided that they are going to counter-program this thing with an advertising campaign.

00:52:55.000 Here's what that advertising campaign looks like.

00:52:57.000 ♪ San Francisco, I'm coming home again ♪ ♪ Never to roam again by the humming of the sand ♪

00:53:05.000 People in bars.

00:53:06.000 I don't need no Yep, there he goes.

00:53:09.000 People at restaurants.

00:53:10.000 Fancy restaurants.

00:53:12.000 No heroin addicts.

00:53:16.000 Everybody's dancing or up. 0.99

00:53:17.000 Gay people in wheelchairs. 1.00

00:53:20.000 More gay people. 0.99

00:53:24.000 People in quirky outfits.

00:53:27.000 One nuclear family. 0.94

00:53:30.000 The Nuclear Family is the actual tourist attraction.

00:53:32.000 It's the only one in San Francisco.

00:53:36.000 Up!

00:53:36.000 Drag Queens!

00:53:37.000 Yeah, San Francisco!

00:53:39.000 Castro Street Fair!

00:53:43.000 People painting weird murals.

00:53:46.000 Yeah, San Francisco.

00:53:47.000 Who wants to go?

00:53:48.000 You guys interested?

00:53:50.000 I feel like that ad campaign is not going to work particularly well.

00:53:54.000 Okay, time for some things that I hate.

00:54:00.000 Thing I hate number one.

00:54:01.000 So I've talked to you at this point almost ad nauseum about what I've called face tattoo syndrome, right?

00:54:06.000 This is the issue where you go to the Starbucks and the guy behind the counter has a giant face tattoo and you stare at him because he put a giant tattoo on his face.

00:54:15.000 And you shouldn't have a giant tattoo on your face because it looks weird.

00:54:18.000 And so you stare at him and he's like, What are you staring at?

00:54:21.000 Like, the giant tattoo on your face that is meant to draw attention to you.

00:54:24.000 You could also call it blue hair syndrome.

00:54:26.000 Or some chick gets her hair dyed blue, and then you're looking at her and you're like, that's a weird color.

00:54:30.000 And she's like, why are you looking at my hair?

00:54:32.000 Because you dyed it blue.

00:54:34.000 That's the reason.

00:54:35.000 Well, Lizzo is one of these people.

00:54:37.000 So, Lizzo, the rotund musical star, the round man of Rebound.

00:54:42.000 So, I'm allowed to make fun of her weight, and the reason I'm allowed to make fun of her weight is because she has decided that quote-unquote fat is beautiful, right?

00:54:49.000 She is the one who made an issue of her body. 1.00

00:54:50.000 I did not make an issue of her body.

00:54:52.000 She is the one who's decided to run around scantily clad claiming that she's the apotheosis of human beauty. 1.00

00:54:58.000 I didn't do that!

00:54:59.000 She was free to, you know, dress modestly and not make an issue out of her body and to not run entire ad campaigns centered on the idea that she is within the definitions of traditional beauty.

00:55:13.000 She decided not to do that, and now she's upset that people are making fun of her.

00:55:16.000 Well, according to page 6, Lizzo is not trying to change her body.

00:55:19.000 She's trying to scroll social media without seeing disparaging comments about it.

00:55:23.000 So, I mean, first rule of social media, if you're a celebrity, I know because I am one, don't scroll social media.

00:55:28.000 It is a mistake.

00:55:29.000 It is always a mistake.

00:55:30.000 But apparently Lizzo does that.

00:55:33.000 She says she often finds herself clapping back at trolls who use their small platforms to shame her for her weight.

00:55:38.000 Because they're the real bullies, right?

00:55:39.000 The guy with three followers on Twitter who's making fun of her for claiming that she is, once again, the apex of human attractiveness.

00:55:47.000 That person is the real problem. 0.87

00:55:50.000 She, with her millions and millions and millions of followers, Going after the guy with three followers, he's the bully.

00:55:55.000 Most recently, Lizzo went off on one specificator who tweeted a video of her performing and wrote,

00:55:59.000 how is Lizzo this fat when she's constantly moving this much on stage? I wonder what she must be 0.97

00:56:03.000 eating. She said, I just logged onto this app. This is the type of bleep I see about me on a

00:56:08.000 daily basis. It's really starting to make me hate the world.

00:56:11.000 Well, I mean, you know, a solution to that would not be to do what she did in the video that was 0.99

00:56:16.000 at issue where she was wearing a sequined outfit, including a sequined dress. And then she removed 0.90

00:56:21.000 the sequined bottom of the dress to to reveal that she was essentially wearing a thong. 0.99

00:56:26.000 She said, someone in the comments said, I eat a lot of fast food.

00:56:28.000 I literally stopped eating fast food years ago.

00:56:31.000 And then she said, I'm not trying to be fat.

00:56:33.000 I'm not trying to be smaller.

00:56:34.000 I'm literally trying to live and be healthy.

00:56:36.000 This is what my body looks like, even when I'm eating super clean and working out.

00:56:41.000 I have doubts.

00:56:43.000 I have some doubts.

00:56:44.000 Unless she has a genetic condition, it doesn't.

00:56:48.000 Because the way that you lose weight is by creating a caloric deficit.

00:56:51.000 That is the way that you lose weight in this world.

00:56:53.000 I really doubt that she's eating nothing but salad and working out an hour and a half a day to look like she does. 0.98

00:57:00.000 And this notion that she's just trying to be healthy?

00:57:02.000 No, you are modeling unhealth.

00:57:05.000 Because you are, and yes, of course, being fat is your brand.

00:57:07.000 She says, being fat isn't my brand. 0.56

00:57:09.000 Being fat is what my body looks like.

00:57:11.000 Well, it's weird since you literally have a brand that is predicated on being large.

00:57:18.000 Doesn't Lizzo, I mean, she has Yitty, which is shapewear reinvented. 0.66

00:57:22.000 Why is it reinvented?

00:57:23.000 Well, because it's designed for all body types, with sizes, as according to her website, from 6X on up.

00:57:31.000 So yes, you literally have a brand built around you being a large person.

00:57:36.000 I mean, she has an entire Netflix show that is rooted around her size.

00:57:43.000 It's called Watch Out for the Big Girls. 1.00

00:57:45.000 So yeah, you're making money off you being large.

00:57:48.000 If you go the Adele route and you lose a bunch of weight, then presumably you'll lose some of your brand.

00:57:54.000 So, yeah.

00:57:54.000 Again, but we're supposed to pretend that it's not happening and that... all the rest.

00:57:58.000 Alrighty, guys.

00:57:58.000 The rest of the show continues right now.

00:57:59.000 You're not going to want to miss it.

00:58:00.000 We'll be getting into a big controversy surrounding Al Pacino impregnating his much, much younger girlfriend.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - June 01, 2023

Twitter Cracks Down On ‘Misgendering’ To Start Pride Month

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