00:00:37.000Okay, we need to begin with a simple fact.
00:00:39.000There are lots and lots and lots of people in the United States who want to watch the system burn.
00:00:44.000So, over the weekend, Tucker Carlson released an episode of his bizarre show with Jacob Reese Mogg, who is a member of Parliament in the UK for years.
00:00:52.000He's a member of the Conservative Party.
00:00:53.000He was a leader of the House of Commons, Lord President of the Council from 2019 to 2022.
00:00:58.000And Mogg is a pretty normie Conservative, which is why Tucker got into it with him.
00:01:03.000And the clips are legitimately insane.
00:01:06.000So we'll begin with the revisionist history section of this interview.
00:01:10.000So Tucker has this thing where he thinks that America was evil for dropping the A bomb to end World War II.
00:01:15.000Presumably, he would have preferred if the United States had a million casualties in invading the Japanese home island.
00:01:23.000I guess the question is if you are willing to kill non combatants who committed no crime, if you're willing to murder the innocent, then in what sense are you better than the people you are fighting?
00:01:37.000That once a war is engaged, the whole point of what I'm talking about, to go back to the eight part of your question.
00:01:44.000I will come back to it because it's to avoid war.
00:02:03.000Again, Tucker has suggested that nuclear weapons were created by demons.0.58
00:02:07.000And also, that America lost its soul when it used the A bomb to end World War II.
00:02:12.000Again, just going to point out that if the United States had actually had to invade the home islands of Japan without use of the A bomb to end the war, meaning six more months of war, that would have meant more dead Japanese and more dead Americans just by the fact.
00:02:26.000And then, of course, as you saw, Tucker Carlson essentially says that it would have been better if Britain had just surrendered the continent to Hitler and maybe just cut a deal with Hitler where it became a vassal state.
00:03:16.000Well, well, I don't think it's much of a secret what Tucker Carlson actually believes, as we'll get to in a moment.
00:03:24.000And again, Riesmog is saying something very basic here, which is on foreign policy, because we're going to get to Russia Ukraine in a second, on foreign policy, the way that you prevent war is to show that you are strong, whereas Tucker Carlson believes the way to prevent war is to surrender to the Nazis.
00:03:38.000And it is the projection of strength that avoids war.
00:03:43.000And this is what we should be doing now.
00:03:44.000We should learn from history that if your enemy thinks you are weak, then you find you get into war by accident.
00:03:52.000If you show that you are strong, then the invasion doesn't take place.
00:04:43.000What would be the other explanation for why they're doing it?
00:04:45.000I think the reason for Russia going into Ukraine, what allowed them to do it, was our weakness earlier over the Crimea.
00:04:53.000And that made it look as if we didn't really care.
00:04:56.000And Tucker's entire mission here is to suggest once again that the enemies of the West are right and the West is wrong for defending itself.
00:05:03.000Reese Mogg asked Tucker Carlson, Do you even believe in the territorial integrity of nation states?
00:05:08.000And Tucker says, I do in America, but not really anywhere else.
00:05:11.000Do you believe in territorial integrity of nation states?
00:05:46.000You seem to be devoid of nuance, that the two questions are not the same.
00:05:50.000Just because you've signed a treaty does not automatically commit you to fighting a war.
00:05:55.000And then it gets really spicy for Tucker because Tucker can't help but become a full scale defender of the Russian regime, which, again, is a tyrannical and dictatorial regime run by Vladimir Putin, his friend.
00:06:49.000It could have a huge economy, but it's got a small economy because it's deeply corrupt and it hasn't managed to use its resources effectively.
00:06:59.000And so, although the population of Russia is bigger than that of the United Kingdom very significantly, its GDP per capita is so much lower that the total GDP of Russia is smaller than that of the United Kingdom.
00:07:34.000The fact that anyone takes Tucker Carlson seriously as an intellectual interlocutor is just insane.
00:07:41.000I mean, Jacob Rees Mogg, being like the most British person who ever Britished, And basically, in very kindly fifth grade school mom fashion, explaining to Tucker how economics works on a basic level is insane.
00:07:58.000Tucker then claimed that the UK punishes people for free speech, but Russia does not.
00:08:03.000And again, Reese Mogg looks like he doesn't know how he's found himself in a room with an ambulatory psychotic.
00:08:10.000I just don't understand, given what you've already just conceded, that the government of the United Kingdom is punishing and prohibiting people and ideas it doesn't like.
00:08:35.000Russia has poisoned people in this country.
00:08:39.000Russia has put fewer people in jail in the last year for social media posts than the UK has.
00:08:47.000They just accidentally fall out of windows in Russia.
00:08:51.000And nobody dares say it in Russia because they're not related to it.
00:08:54.000Neither of us live in Russia, but if you're a Briton, if you live in this country and your ancestors have lived here for thousands of years.
00:09:00.000The threat to your freedom comes from your government, not Russia.
00:09:03.000I'm not in favor of the way free speech is being policed in this country.
00:09:09.000So, why not try to overthrow your government?
00:09:11.000Well, I hope to stand at the next election.
00:09:39.000This is why I've said many, many times that Tucker is the horseshoe right, and he joins hands with the left in hatred for the West.
00:09:46.000Again, the left believes that the United States, again, fundamentally went wrong.
00:09:50.000There's something deeply ill at the root of American society.
00:09:53.000Not that we have some problems, but there is something that needs to be completely destroyed.
00:09:58.000Here's Ben Affleck over the weekend at the premiere of a movie called Animals saying there's collective disappointment with American politics.
00:10:04.000I think that there is a, whatever side of the aisle you're on, one of the interesting things that people can agree on is that a collective disappointment with the way that American politics has trended.
00:10:17.000There's nobody alive now who thinks, hey, we're really doing it right and things are going great and I love this political system.
00:10:24.000Okay, but again, Ben Affleck is kind of the idiot clique of the left wing political sphere.
00:10:29.000Abdullah Syed might be the next senator from Michigan.
00:10:32.000Here he was on higher learning with Rachel Lindsay.
00:10:37.000A more oxymoronic title for a show has ever been put forth than Higher Learning with Rachel Lindsay.
00:10:43.000Here's El Syed explaining that if you're black in America, you have never had access to capitalism.0.65
00:10:48.000If you're black in America, you've never actually had access to real capitalism.0.66
00:10:52.000You had your labor extracted from you via the most fundamentally unethical, immoral act of placing somebody in slavery.
00:11:05.000And then we've excluded black folk in different ways.0.92
00:11:09.000We still exclude black folk in different ways.
00:11:11.000From full participation in capitalism via access to capital, via access to good schools, via access to healthcare, via access to all these things.0.90
00:11:18.000Yeah, America is fundamentally broken and always was fundamentally broken.
00:11:21.000Meanwhile, Zorhan Mamdani appeared with horseshoe commentator Theo Vaughn, whose mullet has grown deep into his brainstem at this point, considering that he has very little brain function, unfortunately.
00:11:33.000Zorhan Mamdani explains that when he feels isolated, his solution was to join the Democratic Socialists of America.
00:11:39.000I mean, the place that I found as my political home. Was an organization called the Democratic Socialists of America.
00:11:46.000And this was a place where I would just go for meetings and I would meet people who felt the same way.
00:11:50.000And first, you would realize that you're not alone.
00:11:56.000You are actually part of something much bigger than yourself, and you can be as well.
00:12:02.000And it feels like when people go through life, the further they get away from school, the more isolated they start to become from the world around them.
00:12:10.000And that is also a function of a society where people are what they call increasingly atomized, just separated out.
00:12:20.000And so much of the fabric that we used to have, it started to.
00:12:25.000And for me, being a member of this organization, it was something that opened my eyes to how to make sense of it and also what I could do to change it.
00:12:33.000And that was something that it didn't just help me with my anxiety.
00:12:36.000It also just helped me with my sense of my place in the world where it was like, okay, I feel this way.
00:12:41.000Here's a candidate that feels the same.
00:12:43.000I'm going to go and knock on doors for them.
00:12:45.000Just going to point out that again, Zoram Amdani, Theo Vaughn, Tucker Carlson, Abdul Al Sayyid, they're all on the same train.
00:12:51.000And the train is that the West is bad and fundamentally flawed.
00:12:54.000We'll get to more on that in a moment.
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00:13:56.000So, why are so many people, the people who I once called disintegrationists, In my best selling book, How to Destroy America in Three Easy Steps, because they want America to disintegrate and they would like that to happen.
00:14:08.000Why are they so intent on destroying the country?
00:14:10.000To understand the answer to that question, we have to understand another question that Tucker Carlson and people like him on both the right and the left keep asking pretty publicly.
00:14:18.000Where did everything go wrong for America?
00:14:21.000Where did everything go wrong for the United States?
00:14:23.000Now, the answer to that question for most Americans is simple.
00:14:54.000G.K. Chesterton, the conservative theologian once said, quote, the truth is that nobody has any business to destroy a social institution until he has really seen it as a historical institution.
00:15:05.000If he knows how it arose and what purposes it was supposed to serve, he may really be able to say, Okay, but the revolutionaries in the moment, the Tucker Carlson's, the Abdul Al Said's, the Zar Mamdanis, that's not what they think.
00:15:27.000They think that their fathers and grandfathers were idiots who sold their birthright.
00:15:32.000Their birthright must be restored by ripping down all the systems.
00:15:39.000That's the story told by all the revolutionary movements in America.
00:15:42.000Things were going all right for the most part until everything went wrong for us and people like us.
00:15:50.000Forget Tucker and Abdul Al Sayed or Zorhan Mamdani.
00:15:53.000We are living in a uniquely terrible moment.0.99
00:15:55.000Things suck, but they don't just suck right now.
00:15:58.000They are doomed to suck forever because the systems are fundamentally broken.
00:16:02.000That's because there is some historical inflection point, a point at which Marty McFly's mom and dad met the wrong way, thus unleashing a chain of inevitabilities that have culminated in Marty McFly's car crashing and him not being able to go to the lake with Jennifer.
00:16:23.000We are infused with a false consciousness that has hypnotized us into accepting a decayed present and a dead future.
00:16:30.000So, the goal of these revolutionaries on all sides is therefore to disabuse Americans of the false consciousness, to awaken them, to woke us about the reality of our terrible moment by exploding the supposedly false story of our past.
00:16:44.000And, of course, the radical movements want to strip away this veil of illusion, to unmask the satanic conspirators who purposefully and maliciously let us awry and continue to do so today.
00:16:55.000So who are these satanic conspirators who keep saying that things are going fine?
00:16:58.000Or more importantly, that even if they're not going fine right now, the institutions are not fundamentally broken.
00:17:45.000Well, they argue that long ago, human beings lived in a romantic commune with nature and one another.
00:17:51.000And, you know, they would wander the forests and the fields and they would hunt and they would gather and they would live rich and rewarding social lives.
00:17:57.000And then, say the Marxist philosophers or pre-Marxist philosophers like Jean-Jacques Rousseau, things went wrong.
00:18:02.000People realized they could farm, right?
00:18:05.000And once they realized the power of agriculture, they began to fence off property and call it private property and monopolize resources, thus leading to the rise of jealousy and tyranny and oppression.
00:18:16.000Humanity's been going wrong ever since.
00:18:17.000So Rousseau's heirs, including people like Karl Marx, made the same argument.
00:18:21.000That argument is made today by people like Bernie Sanders, who insists that every innovation is actually a robbery from a mythical commons.
00:18:27.000And that the only reason that you're not a communist and don't understand this is because you were implanted with a False consciousness.
00:18:34.000He actually wrote, the press, the pulpit, the comic papers, in short, by all the means at the disposal of the ruling classes, it is the secret by which the capitalist class maintains its power.
00:18:43.000Basically, you've been indoctrinated.0.51
00:18:46.000In the modern era, that's the same argument that you see El Syed making in that clip.
00:18:52.000It's the same argument made by Nicole Hannah Jones, creator of the 1619 Project.
00:18:55.000America went wrong from the start because it believed in meritocracy and individual rights and free markets, and those are outgrowths of greed and venality and racism.
00:19:05.000So, all of those things have to be destroyed.0.87
00:19:08.000This is why Nicole Hannah Jones, back when she wrote the 1619 Project, said, If I ever think everyone has the same opportunities in America and where black people struggle, it's because of their own pathology.0.94
00:19:18.000I support regressive individualistic policy that doesn't change the structure or hierarchy or inequality in our system.
00:19:27.000So, Marx argued that in order to achieve the overthrow of all of these structures, right, a free market rooted in private property, who are the big problems here?1.00
00:19:55.000He says the emancipation of the Jews is the emancipation of mankind from Judaism.0.62
00:20:00.000So the Marxist left is still singing the same tune.0.86
00:20:02.000If you wonder why the Marxist left today has turned anti Semitic, this would be the reason.
00:20:05.000They argue that the Jews in both America and Israel are the beneficiaries of a racist system, that they are the propagators of all the institutions that continue to foment racism.0.63
00:20:18.000And it should not be a surprise to anybody that Black Lives Matter's group were on the same side as Hamas on October 7th.
00:20:25.000Now, I'm using the Marxists as an example, but they are not the only example.0.82
00:20:29.000Again, the revolutionaries who want to tear down the entire system.0.59
00:20:32.000So, a group from the right, the so called Catholic Integralists.
00:20:36.000Again, the entire idea here is there was some historical juncture at which the entire thing went haywire and sideways.
00:20:43.000So, this is a fairly small group of intellectuals who argue that basically the West went wrong with the End of the Holy Roman Empire.
00:20:50.000The world was gradually falling under the sway of the universal church.
00:20:57.000And then the Protestant Reformation broke everything.
00:20:59.000So, according to Catholic integralist Adrian Vermeule, who's a professor at Harvard, he says, Now, what is at stake indeed is far more elevated than power.
00:21:07.000What is at stake is no less than authority.
00:21:09.000The full authority of a reasoned political order composed of both temporal and spiritual powers in right relation to the natural and divine law that would put a mere Rome to shame.
00:21:18.000That limitless ambition is why liberalism finds a genuinely political Catholicism intolerable.
00:21:23.000Why a liberal order will only accept a version of Catholicism that submits to be ruled.
00:21:27.000So basically, he's saying Catholicism ought to win and liberalism ought to lose.
00:21:31.000And the argument that he makes is that history, again, went haywire with the Protestant Reformation.
00:21:35.000So, in this view, Enlightenment progress has to be denigrated.
00:21:39.000Free markets, the single most obvious material feature of the Enlightenment era viewpoint of the Anglo American Protestant world, has to be downplayed or demonized as ineffective and dehumanizing.
00:21:52.000So, Patrick Dunin, another Catholic integralist, laments free markets as inherently unfree and ugly.
00:21:57.000In terms that are basically the same as those of Karl Marx.
00:22:00.000He writes, Our main political choices come down to which depersonalized mechanism will purportedly advance our freedom and security.
00:22:06.000The space of the market, which collects our billions upon billions of choices to provide for our wants and needs without demanding from us any specific thought or intention about the wants and needs of others, or the liberal state, which establishes depersonalized procedures and mechanisms for the wants and needs of others that remain insufficiently addressed by the market.
00:22:22.000Indeed, it's really not a surprise to find this kind of language emanating predominantly from advocates for Catholic integralism, because if we recognize that, say, free markets.
00:22:30.000And individual liberty are actually kind of awesome.
00:22:33.000That the extraordinary freedom and prosperity of the West are downstream from the Protestant Reformation.
00:22:38.000You're going to have to admit that historically speaking, Catholic universalism wasn't working all that well.
00:22:43.000And so instead, it's important to pretend that free markets, even though they enrich us, are basically robbing us of our spirit and our souls and our true freedom by creating new ones.
00:22:54.000It's a long digression just to show you that all of these revolutionary movements have the same structure.
00:22:59.000We'll get to more on that in a moment.
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00:24:49.000And those people were fundamentally betrayed by American leadership, which turned away from its people toward other shores, siding with communists and Jews and globalists instead of ignoring the problems of Europe or even siding with Germany, which again was full of white people instead.
00:25:04.000America's triumph over Nazism in World War II, so goes the argument, turned us from a white Christian country into a multiracial global empire in hot to free market capitalism and secular humanism.
00:25:14.000Now again, this is not an argument unique to Tucker.
00:25:16.000This is an argument that Pat Buchanan used to make.
00:25:18.000He used to argue that World War II was a tragic mistake by people who resisted Hitler.
00:25:23.000So he wrote a book in which he said, quote, historians will look back on the 1914 through 1918 and 1939 to 1945 as two phases of the Great Civil War of the West, where the once Christian nations of Europe fell upon one another with such savage abandon, they brought down all their empires, brought an end to centuries of Western rule, and advanced the death of their civilization.
00:25:41.000Now, what's weird about that, again, is that the outcome of that particular period was an America that was heavily Christian dominating the world.
00:26:12.000So, what brought about the war, according to Buchanan?
00:26:14.000He said, While Irish and German Americans were the most vocal about staying out of World War II, Jewish Americans clamored to have the United States smash Hitler's regime.
00:26:22.000After World War II, Jewish influence over foreign policy became.0.62
00:26:25.000Almost an obsession with American leaders.0.94
00:26:57.000So, Tucker then paints Winston Churchill as the chief villain of World War II.
00:27:01.000And he makes the same case, while, of course, hosting pseudo historians like Darrell Cooper, who say that Churchill himself manipulated the world into World War II on behalf of Zionist paymasters, which, of course, is historically false.
00:27:14.000So, Tucker constantly says that while the Allies defeated the Nazis, Western civilization was lost.
00:27:32.000Nazi Germany was a barbaric, tyrannical dictatorship intent on mass murder and expansion and attacks on other Christian countries, including, for example, Poland or the Czech Republic or Austria.
00:27:44.000The Molotov Ribbentrop Pact had the Nazis siding with the barbarically anti Christian Soviets to carve up Europe.
00:27:50.000It sided with the non Christian country Japan and then went to war with the United States.
00:27:55.000After World War II, there was the Cold War, and that ended with the United States removing the most notoriously atheistic anti Christian regime ever devised in world history.0.52
00:28:05.000Again, in the 1950s, the United States was one of the most highly church going civilizations on planet Earth.
00:28:11.000And by the way, since World War II, America's prosperity has led the globe out of abject poverty, increased life expectancy, and living standards domestically in unprecedented ways.
00:28:19.000Now, all of this has to be ignored or explained away by people like Tucker as false consciousness brought about by propaganda, right?
00:28:50.000See, here's the thing America is responsible for the greatest movement away from poverty, away from tyranny in all of human history.
00:28:59.000American citizens have it better than anyone else, anywhere, anytime in human history.
00:29:04.000And so, the chief goal of all these radicals on all sides of the aisle is demoralization.
00:29:08.000So, Bernie Sanders tells us we're all poor and suffering victims of the supposed billionaires and millionaires.
00:29:14.000And that the solution to all of that is a centralized government redistribution.
00:29:18.000Catholic integralists will tell us we live in a godless, unrooted society, isolated and atomistic, and the reason for that is capitalism.
00:29:24.000And the only cure is that we should get rid of the liberal principles of the Declaration and the Constitution and return to a sort of new Holy Roman Empire and listen to the Pope in Rerum Navarum.0.86
00:29:34.000The Tuckers of the world argue we live in an overrun, impoverished, spiritually barren society.0.80
00:29:38.000The only cure is a turn inward toward exclusivity and homogeneity, nothing to do with ideas.0.99
00:29:44.000It turns out we never won World War II.
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00:30:22.000Every significant movement in history has started with protesting.