The Candice Malcolm Show - Does Erin O’Toole support the trucker convoy？

00:00:00.000 Canada has lost the plot when it comes to COVID vaccines and COVID mandates.

00:00:04.940 Plus, Aaron O'Toole can't seem to answer a single question about the trucker convoy.

00:00:09.560 Where does he stand? Does anybody know?

00:00:11.500 I'm Candice Malcolm and this is The Candice Malcolm Show.

00:00:17.620 Hi everyone, thank you so much for tuning in.

00:00:19.960 So the big story in the country remains the trucker convoy.

00:00:23.180 It continues to dominate on social media

00:00:25.020 and now the legacy media have come around and begun to pay attention to it.

00:00:29.360 Now, this should come as no surprise.

00:00:31.580 Rather than giving it a fair shake, rather than covering it in a fair, neutral way,

00:00:36.020 the legacy media are immediately, they're so quick to demonize and denigrate the unvaccinated truckers

00:00:42.180 to paint them as some kind of extremist, some kind of threat.

00:00:45.280 They are coming to Ottawa and they're all unvaccinated.

00:00:48.000 It's like a zombie apocalypse heading to Ottawa.

00:00:50.140 Everyone should clutch their pearls and run inside to stay away from these scary unvaccinated truckers. 1.00

00:00:55.660 That's sort of the line that you hear from many, many people on social media, many journalists.

00:01:01.160 So the first point I want to make on the program today is that as a country,

00:01:05.360 we've sort of lost the plot when it comes to vaccines.

00:01:08.320 The narratives have changed so many times.

00:01:10.760 And I think at this point, we're all kind of just confused as to what the purpose of the vaccine mandate is,

00:01:16.300 what it was originally.

00:01:17.400 And we're kind of just running on the inertia of the initial pledge and the initial promise

00:01:21.680 that vaccines would just completely end the pandemic.

00:01:25.720 That was the idea.

00:01:27.360 So we know that the way that they sold the vaccines, the purpose of the vaccines was to go back to normal.

00:01:33.860 The overwhelming majority of Canadians complied.

00:01:36.560 We wanted to go back to normal.

00:01:37.860 We wanted to protect ourselves and our families from getting COVID.

00:01:40.760 So most of us did exactly what we were told to do.

00:01:43.960 We did exactly what government officials and experts and the elites told us to do.

00:01:48.660 We went out and we got vaccinated, myself included.

00:01:51.900 I went out and I got fully vaccinated.

00:01:54.240 Well, at this point, I think it's pretty clear that we were all lied to.

00:01:57.680 I was lied to, you were lied to, and all Canadians were lied to. 0.91

00:02:01.160 We went out and got vaccinated.

00:02:02.680 A remarkable 84% of Canadians are now vaccinated.

00:02:06.600 That's one of the highest in the world.

00:02:07.980 84% have had at least one dose.

00:02:10.560 77, as of reading this, are fully vaccinated.

00:02:13.780 So the overwhelming majority, more than three quarters of the country, did exactly what we

00:02:18.740 were told to.

00:02:19.280 We signed up for a drug because we were told it would get us out of this hellscape that

00:02:23.520 we've been living in for the past two years.

00:02:25.060 We were told that we could go back to normal.

00:02:26.620 Now, of course, it wasn't true.

00:02:28.020 The narrative quickly changed after we had gotten vaccinated, and many of us learned that

00:02:32.800 it doesn't actually stop you from getting COVID.

00:02:34.680 It doesn't actually prevent you from getting COVID.

00:02:36.880 It doesn't stop the spread of COVID.

00:02:38.960 It just makes it so that you have a milder version.

00:02:41.220 So the narrative changed from get vaccinated to stop the spread of COVID, and then all

00:02:47.140 of a sudden the narrative was get COVID so that you get a milder version of COVID, a version

00:02:52.540 that won't kill you.

00:02:53.440 If you get COVID and you're vaccinated, you're much less likely to end up in hospital and end

00:02:58.080 up dying.

00:02:58.720 That's the new narrative.

00:03:00.180 Well, hold on a second.

00:03:02.000 If you're young and if you're healthy, then the odds of you dying from COVID are very small.

00:03:06.700 So the vaccine purpose now, we're told, is to keep you from dying.

00:03:12.620 But if you're under 65 and you don't have a major underlying health condition, you probably

00:03:16.280 weren't going to die from COVID anyway.

00:03:18.480 So getting a vaccine for those of us that are young and healthy would just make it even

00:03:23.480 more so that when we get COVID that we won't die.

00:03:26.120 Okay.

00:03:26.360 They still insisted that everyone get vaccinated, regardless of your age, whether you're in

00:03:31.400 a vulnerable category.

00:03:32.620 And also importantly, regardless of whether you've had COVID before, because if you've

00:03:36.560 had COVID before and you've recovered from it, you had the antibodies, you're safe.

00:03:40.500 In fact, you're safer than if you get the vaccine.

00:03:43.180 So it doesn't even matter.

00:03:44.560 It didn't even matter to the politicians and the experts that are rolling this all out.

00:03:48.700 They insisted that everybody get vaccinated.

00:03:51.240 And that's where we are now.

00:03:52.020 Again, most people, listen, most people complied, but alongside this, when they rolled out the

00:03:58.360 vaccine mandates, we were told the purpose of the mandates was to stop the spread of

00:04:03.380 COVID, right?

00:04:04.120 We don't want unvaccinated people going to restaurants because they could get everyone 1.00

00:04:07.520 else sick and then we could have more cases and we could have another wave and we would

00:04:11.940 overwhelm our hospitals again.

00:04:13.900 So if you were unvaccinated, you couldn't go to restaurants.

00:04:16.740 You couldn't go to work if you had a job in a frontline as a frontline worker because they

00:04:21.380 didn't want people exposed to COVID.

00:04:23.000 So the whole purpose of the mandate was based on the original assumption about COVID, which

00:04:28.560 was that once you get vaccinated, it stops you from getting it, stops the spread.

00:04:33.060 But now that we know that you can still get COVID when you're vaccinated, the whole purpose

00:04:38.140 of the mandates doesn't make any sense anymore.

00:04:40.560 Because if getting vaccinated only stops you from getting a worse version of it, a version

00:04:45.700 of it that might land you in the hospital or kill you, that has nothing to do with the

00:04:49.160 spread that has nothing to do with how viral it is.

00:04:52.620 So you can continue to get COVID if you're vaccinated.

00:04:55.440 It doesn't make a difference.

00:04:56.340 And especially now with Omicron, being vaccinated does not stop you from getting Omicron.

00:05:01.540 We know that.

00:05:01.980 Everybody knows that.

00:05:02.800 I can speak from my own personal experience.

00:05:05.100 Like I've told you, everyone in my household, except for me, has now had COVID and we're all

00:05:10.480 fully vaccinated.

00:05:11.240 My husband, my mother who lives with us, both are two small children.

00:05:14.380 They're not vaccinated because they're really little, but they still got it.

00:05:16.760 They recovered just fine.

00:05:18.160 We've had three different babysitters that come to our house that have all had COVID and

00:05:21.740 they're all fully vaccinated.

00:05:22.940 They didn't get COVID from us.

00:05:24.120 They got it from the outside world because everyone has COVID and they came back and brought

00:05:28.200 it into our house.

00:05:29.180 Just saying everyone's getting it, even though they're vaccinated.

00:05:31.720 I'm sure you have similar stories that many, many people that you know, probably yourself

00:05:35.340 have gotten COVID recently, even though you're fully vaccinated.

00:05:38.840 So we know that being vaccinated does not stop you from spreading COVID.

00:05:44.120 So the whole idea behind a vaccine mandate, just, it just doesn't make sense anymore.

00:05:49.020 And you don't even really hear the argument at this point.

00:05:52.200 You don't, you don't hear it as much that, that the idea of the vaccine mandates is to

00:05:56.980 stop the spread. 1.00

00:05:58.280 So, so, so if that's no longer the narrative, what is the new narrative?

00:06:01.940 Why do we need to get these vaccines?

00:06:03.720 And why do we need these vaccine mandates?

00:06:05.540 Well, the new narrative is basically just shut up and do it.

00:06:08.740 That's, that's the narrative.

00:06:09.620 That's the line.

00:06:10.500 That's what we hear from the media.

00:06:11.920 Shut up, get vaccinated, comply, do what you're told.

00:06:16.840 And the reason, the rationale, well, because we say so basically because the science, because

00:06:21.540 the experts say so that's where we are as a country.

00:06:25.380 We will fire you from your job.

00:06:27.320 We will raise your taxes.

00:06:29.000 We will ban you from going to the grocery store.

00:06:31.340 We will stop you from traveling.

00:06:32.940 We will tell you that your family should not invite you to Christmas dinner.

00:06:37.140 We will call you every name in the book.

00:06:39.000 We will do everything we can to force you to make a health decision that you don't want

00:06:43.680 to make.

00:06:44.120 If you are unvaccinated in this country, you have become the untouchables. 0.81

00:06:48.360 And that's what we're seeing.

00:06:49.260 That's what this is all about.

00:06:50.700 Now, now in response to this horrific movement that we are seeing in this country, that we

00:06:55.200 are seeing in Canada and all over the world, in response, we have seen an incredible story

00:07:00.700 emerge, an incredible story of bravery and courage among a growing number of people who say

00:07:06.020 no, who say enough is enough, who say I will not comply.

00:07:10.200 And we saw these tremendous rallies all across North America over the weekend.

00:07:14.640 We saw huge crowds.

00:07:16.340 We saw people come out.

00:07:18.020 We saw speeches.

00:07:19.180 We really saw something inspiring.

00:07:21.240 Canadians, Americans, people all over saying no, saying we want our freedom.

00:07:26.080 We will not live under medical tyranny.

00:07:28.380 And this is the people uniting, using their voice to say no, to say I will not comply.

00:07:34.200 And again, truly incredible, truly incredible.

00:07:36.320 So building off the momentum of these incredible rallies that we saw over the weekend, we see

00:07:40.860 the trucker convoy, which is now making its way across the country and heading to Ottawa.

00:07:45.880 Again, people saying, look at the important role that we play.

00:07:49.380 Look at what the government is doing to us.

00:07:51.380 Look at the supply shortages that are being caused by forcing our industry to do something

00:07:56.200 that most of us don't want to do.

00:07:57.420 20% of truckers are not vaccinated.

00:08:00.100 We don't know why.

00:08:00.760 Maybe they've had COVID.

00:08:01.740 Maybe they have health reasons.

00:08:03.120 Maybe they just have more reasons.

00:08:04.220 Whatever their reason is, they're not vaccinated.

00:08:07.120 And frankly, why should they be?

00:08:08.540 They sit in a truck by themselves for most of the time.

00:08:10.980 So they don't interact with people.

00:08:12.100 They're not frontline workers in the same way as a nurse or a grocery store clerk is. 0.88

00:08:16.600 Okay.

00:08:17.420 Again, we shouldn't even have to have the justification for anyone, because now that we know that everyone

00:08:22.340 can get COVID regardless of vaccine status, the basic idea has been thrown out the window.

00:08:27.060 We've lost the plot.

00:08:27.920 It doesn't make sense anymore.

00:08:29.240 But regardless, these people are fighting back, and God bless them so much so.

00:08:35.960 We'll just take a couple of samples of the incredible bravery and incredible message that

00:08:40.740 we've seen from these truckers and these people.

00:08:43.200 Sheila Gunn-Reed, a great journalist over at The Rebel, she tweeted this out saying that

00:08:47.120 a mother and her kids are handing these out to the truckers.

00:08:50.240 A beautiful, beautiful message.

00:08:51.340 I'll read it here because it's really nice.

00:08:53.300 It says, thank you for standing up for all Canadians and the Canada we loved, loved like

00:08:58.140 past tense.

00:08:59.220 Thank you for standing up against division, segregation, and hate.

00:09:03.180 Thank you for standing up for the children of Canada.

00:09:05.160 We will inherit the consequences of what the grownups of the country let happen.

00:09:09.260 Thank you for standing up for our right to decide what happens to our body and us kids

00:09:13.260 right to play, participate, and just be kids.

00:09:16.060 Thank you for choosing to transport goods so we can have what we need.

00:09:19.520 Cookies make everything better.

00:09:20.580 We hope these cookies make your long ride better and that you get so much support along

00:09:25.800 your journey.

00:09:26.500 Thank you from the kids of Canada.

00:09:28.240 Beautiful, beautiful message.

00:09:30.220 And another one, I saw this clip of a OPP officer, an Ontario police officer, giving

00:09:34.860 her wishes and saying what so many Canadians think and believe, thanking these truckers

00:09:39.220 for sacrifices they make and the political message that they're sending right now.

00:09:43.980 So here's that clip.

00:09:46.360 Hey there.

00:09:47.600 So I'm Constable Erin Howard, coming to you from Ontario, Canada.

00:09:54.600 I'm just, I really wanted to give a shout out to all the truckers.

00:09:58.260 I think what you guys are doing is incredible.

00:10:01.880 You're fighting for our rights and freedoms.

00:10:04.940 And right now it feels like we're a little bit at war and those rights and freedoms are

00:10:10.320 at stake.

00:10:11.600 So you guys are honestly true heroes.

00:10:15.560 What you're doing is just incredible.

00:10:17.380 I will be in Ottawa when you guys roll in.

00:10:20.860 I'm going to be speaking on behalf of Police on Guard and we are thrilled, thrilled and

00:10:27.600 honored to be able to be there.

00:10:29.580 I can't wait to meet you guys.

00:10:31.180 Hope to talk to a lot of you in person.

00:10:33.440 Anyway, just wanted to give you guys a shout out and some support and keep rolling and we'll

00:10:37.600 see you in Ottawa.

00:10:39.420 And, you know, it is incredible to see.

00:10:41.920 And I will just say it gives me some hope for the country.

00:10:43.980 Sometimes you feel like, wow, Canada is going down a dangerous and dark path.

00:10:47.880 And then you see people coming together.

00:10:49.620 You see these truck convoys.

00:10:50.880 You see the sheer numbers of people welcome in cities.

00:10:53.620 You see, you know, these rebel reporters out there doing a great job reporting lots of

00:10:57.060 independent reporters, telling the other side of the story, getting great footage, getting

00:11:00.180 great interviews.

00:11:01.040 And it really is inspiring.

00:11:02.400 It's great to see.

00:11:03.780 Now, on the flip side, the contrary is, of course, the legacy media is doing its best to

00:11:09.660 delegitimize these voices, to denigrate and to demonize, doing the exact same

00:11:13.880 thing that they always do to make people who oppose a vaccine mandate seem like they're

00:11:17.900 fringe and they're crazy and that they don't represent the core values of Canada.

00:11:22.340 They paint them as anti-vaxxers, even though there's obviously an important distinction

00:11:26.020 between someone who opposes a vaccine mandate, opposes forced segregation, opposes the scapegoating

00:11:31.740 and all the things that are happening in our society versus someone who just is opposed

00:11:37.180 to vaccines.

00:11:37.960 Those are two different categories.

00:11:39.000 The media always conflates them.

00:11:41.320 And when it comes to Aaron O'Toole, this is what I want to focus on as well in this

00:11:45.360 show, is the media are going to try to set him up.

00:11:48.900 The media love to do this to conservative leaders.

00:11:50.920 They love to try to kind of play a game of gotcha.

00:11:53.180 They want Aaron O'Toole to come out in support of the truckers so that they can say, aha,

00:11:57.440 gotcha, look at this one guy over here and how crazy he is.

00:12:00.700 He's a white supremacist or he's whatever.

00:12:02.600 He's this, he's that.

00:12:03.400 And try to conflate and compare and somehow put them in the same category as Aaron O'Toole.

00:12:08.240 We saw them doing this all the time with Andrew Scheer when there was those yellow vest rallies

00:12:13.300 and people protesting Trudeau's over-the-top anti-energy policies.

00:12:17.920 Anytime that Andrew Scheer, the former conservative leader, would come out in support of them,

00:12:22.740 the media would use that as a sort of way to twist and turn and make it seem like Andrew

00:12:27.720 Scheer was some kind of an extremist.

00:12:29.640 And obviously they're trying to do the same thing here to Aaron O'Toole.

00:12:33.700 The problem is that Aaron O'Toole cannot answer a question.

00:12:36.340 Nobody knows where he stands.

00:12:37.460 We don't know whether he supports the truckers.

00:12:39.480 You could tell that he doesn't really want to come out and support them because he doesn't

00:12:42.700 want to be painted as an anti-vax or he doesn't want to be connected in case some of them are,

00:12:46.920 you know, said something in the past that makes them seem extreme.

00:12:50.640 So he's just sort of treading carefully, but he doesn't do it very skillfully.

00:12:54.140 He doesn't give a straight answer.

00:12:55.600 He waffles, he flip-flops.

00:12:57.260 This has just sort of become quintessential Aaron O'Toole.

00:13:01.280 He just can't answer a question.

00:13:03.780 And the media, of course, are like vultures.

00:13:05.700 They smell weakness.

00:13:06.460 They circle the prey and they just go question after question, same thing over and over again.

00:13:10.660 So here is a cringeworthy montage of conservative leader Aaron O'Toole just being completely

00:13:16.640 unable to answer a very basic question about whether or not he supports these truckers.

00:13:20.380 Several of your MPs have tweeted out support for the convoy.

00:13:25.820 One of them saying that he felt the Prime Minister had a vendetta against people who were unvaccinated.

00:13:32.880 Do you support the convoy, its goals, its objectives, even though the Canadian Trucking

00:13:37.780 Alliance says this could be disruptive?

00:13:39.780 And to follow, again, repeat Louis' question, will you meet with them when they come to Ottawa?

00:13:43.500 We've been talking to the Canadian Truckers Alliance, Glenn, for several months.

00:13:48.760 We've seen a crisis in the supply chain coming for several months.

00:13:52.880 And we've proposed policies to try and help alleviate that.

00:13:56.900 The most important of which is vaccines.

00:14:00.060 You didn't answer my question about whether you...

00:14:02.500 Yes, I did, Glenn.

00:14:03.480 You didn't say whether you...

00:14:04.500 Vaccines are a critical tool.

00:14:05.100 You didn't say whether you'd meet with them.

00:14:06.000 And we need to make sure we keep store shelves full.

00:14:08.420 Maybe you can answer in response to my next question, sir.

00:14:11.680 You can say whether you'd meet with them.

00:14:13.160 That's why last week, Glenn...

00:14:14.400 My follow-up question is about the supply chain.

00:14:16.560 One of your MPs tweeted out a photograph purporting to be empty grocery store shelves in Canada.

00:14:23.340 It turns out it was actually from the UK several years ago.

00:14:26.640 When things like that happen, does that undermine your party's credibility on this issue?

00:14:31.340 Well, we've been talking about shortages for some time.

00:14:34.240 So has the Canadian Chamber of Commerce.

00:14:36.620 We've been...

00:14:37.240 There are unvaccinated truckers rolling into Ottawa.

00:14:40.060 You won't say whether you support them.

00:14:41.960 You won't say whether you will meet with them.

00:14:44.100 So what should Canadians think about your position?

00:14:47.040 Do you not support the trucking convoy?

00:14:50.080 I support getting as many people vaccinated as possible, including truckers. 1.00

00:14:55.120 So what's your message then to truckers who have maybe spent the past month thinking that

00:15:01.120 you kind of have their backs and calling for reasonable accommodations and rapid tests?

00:15:05.780 And again, you still won't answer.

00:15:07.160 Will you meet with them when they come to Ottawa?

00:15:09.000 Do you support their efforts and coming all the way here?

00:15:12.480 What's your message to truckers who might be disappointed that you are dodging questions

00:15:16.920 and when you won't say whether you'll meet with them?

00:15:19.660 Well, let me be crystal clear.

00:15:21.480 We've been meeting with the Canadian Trucking Association for several months.

00:15:26.460 In fact, we've written the minister on this.

00:15:28.400 And at every occasion, I encourage truckers to get vaccinated.

00:15:33.920 Now, I just want to say the questions are unfair.

00:15:36.000 They're leading.

00:15:36.820 They're irrelevant.

00:15:37.740 They're accusational.

00:15:38.860 They play right into the liberal talking points and the liberal narrative.

00:15:42.740 But we expect that.

00:15:44.620 And Erin O'Toole, in this case, doesn't even get credit for standing up to the media. 1.00

00:15:48.160 Usually when you see a conservative politician punching back and standing up to the media,

00:15:52.120 you kind of cheer and you say, great job.

00:15:54.060 That's exactly what we want you to do.

00:15:55.500 But in this case, you just sort of oddly agree with the journalist.

00:15:59.440 You're kind of like, well, you know, O'Toole, you're not answering the question.

00:16:02.300 That's pretty obvious.

00:16:03.660 And if you just answer the question, then we would be on your side.

00:16:06.240 But you're not answering.

00:16:06.940 You're kind of trying to be on both sides.

00:16:08.660 You want to be seen as in favor of the truckers.

00:16:10.740 You don't want to be too close to them because you don't want to be painted in a negative light.

00:16:14.580 So he's trying to have it both ways.

00:16:16.180 The media smell that really, really bad.

00:16:18.520 Everyone on social media was criticizing this up and down.

00:16:22.460 Now, meanwhile, and this just makes it so much worse for Erno O'Toole,

00:16:26.620 is that his conservative MPs, his own MPs are out there vocally supporting the convoy.

00:16:31.320 They're out there saying thank you to the truckers.

00:16:33.300 They're out there saying thank you.

00:16:35.480 Let's stand up for our liberties.

00:16:36.600 Let's say no to these awful vaccine mandates. 0.96

00:16:38.920 As every conservative in the country and frankly, as every Canadian should.

00:16:43.060 OK, so here's just an example.

00:16:44.540 Here is the former conservative leader, Andrew Scheer, saying what Erno O'Toole should be saying.

00:16:49.740 He says this, thank you, truckers.

00:16:51.620 Trudeau is attacking personal liberty and threatening everyone's ability to get groceries

00:16:55.660 because of his overreach on vaccine mandates.

00:16:58.880 He is the biggest threat to freedom in Canada.

00:17:02.080 Amen to that.

00:17:02.980 That's that's what Erno O'Toole should be saying.

00:17:05.280 And would it really be so hard for Erno O'Toole to just say that?

00:17:08.060 It should be a no brainer for the leader of the conservative party.

00:17:11.260 Instead, let's chalk this up as another blunder and another own goal for the conservative leader.

00:17:16.640 I'm Candace Malcolm, and this is The Candace Malcolm Show.

00:17:19.740 I'm Candace Malcolm, and this is The Candace Malcolm, and this is The Candace Malcolm.

The Candice Malcolm Show - January 25, 2022

Does Erin O’Toole support the trucker convoy？

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