The Charlie Kirk Show - September 04, 2026


A Clancy Mistrial In Massachusetts + The Disaster of Left-Right Alliances + AMA 278


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00:01:18.000 Welcome, everybody.
00:01:19.000 It is September 4th, 2026.
00:01:23.000 We're here at the Y Refi Studios in Phoenix, Arizona.
00:01:25.000 Honored to be with all of you as always.
00:01:28.000 And boy, oh boy, pure pandemonium has broken out in the Lindsey Clancy trial in Massachusetts.
00:01:34.000 There are many elements to this that we've got to.
00:01:37.000 Break down and dissect because a lot of this is completely, I would say, unprecedented.
00:01:43.000 And even legal analysts and experts from Massachusetts are saying this is unprecedented.
00:01:49.000 So the state of play here is that this jury has been deadlocked basically 11 to 1.
00:01:54.000 We found this out yesterday that there's one holdout.
00:01:57.000 And everybody was trying to figure out is it a man?
00:02:00.000 Is it a woman? 0.91
00:02:01.000 Because that'll tell us what it is. 0.98
00:02:02.000 Right.
00:02:03.000 If we know it's a man, we know that everybody else wants to acquit her of murder.
00:02:07.000 And the one man is obviously going to be the lone holdout saying, no, you don't. 0.98
00:02:12.000 Let a woman who just murdered three of her kids off. 0.83
00:02:14.000 Okay. 1.00
00:02:14.000 This is basically the state of play in America right now. 1.00
00:02:17.000 Really, really crazy stuff.
00:02:19.000 But now that gets, we find out that the defense attorney, Reddington, wants this person removed.
00:02:27.000 That's another piece of evidence, right?
00:02:29.000 Because they don't understand this definition of reasonable doubt.
00:02:33.000 And so the judge is dictating to them what reasonable doubt is.
00:02:37.000 Okay.
00:02:37.000 Okay.
00:02:37.000 Okay.
00:02:38.000 Now he says that the judge is going to talk to this one juror at 9 a.m.
00:02:42.000 So basically, this happens.
00:02:45.000 Then the defense attorney says, he.
00:02:48.000 Ah, so the defense attorney is now saying the gender, the sex of the one juror.
00:02:54.000 Now, we know there's nine women and three men, okay?
00:02:57.000 And so the judge finally goes and says, I'm going to declare a mistrial.
00:03:02.000 And this is the key clip here.
00:03:03.000 We're going to play it for you.
00:03:05.000 But we are in a waiting game, which is very fascinating.
00:03:07.000 After this clip, you'll understand what I mean.
00:03:09.000 Sot nine.
00:03:12.000 Formally declare a mistrial that the court afford us the opportunity to take a 211 3 appeal direct to the Supreme Judicial Court single justice on this issue because of any number of issues that are of concern, others that have been addressed in the motions, the objections.
00:03:29.000 But I further raise the issue of the American with Disabilities Act.
00:03:33.000 I believe that this is a situation where there is a clear and present danger that this individual, for some reason, what it is, we don't know, but is taking a position.
00:03:45.000 That's intractable, regardless of proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
00:03:49.000 So, I want an opportunity to take an appeal to the single justice if the court will afford us that opportunity.
00:03:54.000 So, you're asking for an emergency stay at this point?
00:03:56.000 Yes.
00:03:57.000 If you want to go up and petition to the SJC for a stay, I'll give you an hour before we bring the jury back down.
00:04:05.000 I didn't know about that part.
00:04:06.000 Americans with Disabilities Act, are they implying the juror has irrational hatred of disabled people and that's what's going on?
00:04:15.000 Why?
00:04:15.000 Because she's in a wheelchair or mental illness, perhaps?
00:04:18.000 So this is the base, this is what we know.
00:04:21.000 It's an absolute shock.
00:04:22.000 And I will tell you, again, people on the ground in Massachusetts are saying this is completely unprecedented.
00:04:28.000 But he's given, so just to.
00:04:31.000 Put a bow on this.
00:04:32.000 Has given Clancy's defense an hour to petition Massachusetts Supreme Court to remove the lone holdout juror blocking Clancy's acquittal.
00:04:42.000 All right.
00:04:42.000 And so this is from a Fox News reporter.
00:04:44.000 He interviewed retired Massachusetts Judge Jack Liu.
00:04:49.000 He says this chance to appeal for a stay is unprecedented in the Lindsey Clancy, as Lindsey Clancy's attorney Kevin Reddington plans to ask the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court I've never seen a jury put on ice to await an appeal.
00:05:05.000 That's an extraordinary situation.
00:05:07.000 Judge William Sullivan gave Reddington one hour to file for an emergency stay while jurors were all ready on their way back to the courtroom.
00:05:15.000 So, this is.
00:05:16.000 This whole thing, it's like.
00:05:19.000 Did you ever see that old Al Pacino movie in Justice for All?
00:05:21.000 You know, I'm out of order.
00:05:23.000 This whole court is out of order.
00:05:24.000 Exactly.
00:05:25.000 It's like the whole country's out of order, though.
00:05:26.000 Exactly.
00:05:27.000 We never expected this.
00:05:28.000 That's psychosis.
00:05:29.000 So, everybody, you know, I tweeted something in my comments.
00:05:33.000 Everybody's like, you don't know it's a man.
00:05:34.000 I'm like, yes, I do.
00:05:36.000 Here is, do we have 14 ready?
00:05:38.000 Yeah, let's go ahead and play SOP 14.
00:05:41.000 That juror told you that he would be able to apply the law to the facts as you asked him.
00:05:48.000 You hear that?
00:05:49.000 That was, I think that was intentional.
00:05:52.000 I think everything this defense attorney, Mr. Reddington, is doing is a, candidly, a cynical play on female emotions.
00:06:00.000 He's been doing it the whole trial.
00:06:02.000 He's playing to the jury that he knows is, Is occupied by nine women and three men.
00:06:09.000 And so he let that slip.
00:06:11.000 He, he.
00:06:13.000 Did you catch it?
00:06:13.000 You want me to play it again?
00:06:14.000 I'll prove it to you.
00:06:15.000 The internet thinks I'm lying or something.
00:06:17.000 Stop 14.
00:06:18.000 That juror told you that he would be able to apply the law to the facts as you asked him.
00:06:25.000 He.
00:06:27.000 So we know.
00:06:28.000 We know that there is basically here's the ratio. 1.00
00:06:31.000 You got nine women that want to acquit her. 1.00
00:06:34.000 The woman who murdered her three children with a. 1.00
00:06:37.000 Exercise banned, strangled them.
00:06:41.000 You got two men that are complying, and you got one man standing up against all of them.
00:06:47.000 And then we have a lawyer complaining about that this violates the Americans with Disabilities Act somehow. 0.77
00:06:52.000 I'm telling you, this was a, candidly, it's a shameless play on female emotions. 0.75
00:06:59.000 And here's the trick, and the women in this audience are smart enough to know this because we get the best. 1.00
00:07:04.000 We have the best women.
00:07:06.000 You guys are based, you got your common sense and your moral.
00:07:09.000 Compass is intact.
00:07:11.000 Here's the deal, though.
00:07:12.000 Every man knows another man like attorney Kevin Reddington that manipulate women, that are actually talking down to women. 1.00
00:07:20.000 And the smart women know the game. 0.97
00:07:21.000 They know that there's a man that's trying to manipulate them by playing, you know, trying to be too cozy up to the way that he thinks you're feeling. 1.00
00:07:29.000 The smart women know the game and they reject those men. 1.00
00:07:32.000 They think that they're disgusting. 1.00
00:07:34.000 And the not so smart ones, that's when they say, oh, I feel heard, I feel seen. 0.88
00:07:41.000 That's Kevin Reddington.
00:07:42.000 That's what's happening right now.
00:07:43.000 And there's one guy standing up against him.
00:07:45.000 There you go.
00:07:45.000 And then they make Instagrams that are like, me too, Lindsay.
00:07:48.000 Yeah.
00:07:48.000 Me too.
00:07:49.000 Same Lindsay.
00:07:50.000 Same Lindsay holding your baby.
00:07:52.000 Like, the whole thing is sick. 1.00
00:07:54.000 And by the way, there is a massive new sort of like trend of these women that are killing their kids. 1.00
00:08:03.000 There are copycat Lindsey Clancy's happening all across the country. 0.97
00:08:07.000 I'll show you some headlines in the next segment.
00:08:11.000 So, yeah, this is just one case.
00:08:14.000 Let's hope this blows over and we look at this as like a bad nightmare.
00:08:18.000 But what you're seeing here is truly disturbing stuff because we have to maintain moral clarity as a country.
00:08:27.000 That's why these cases matter.
00:08:28.000 I think that's why ultimately they get into the psyche, into the zeitgeist of a culture.
00:08:32.000 Because we as a people have to still understand right from wrong, and we still have to have the backbone to hold people accountable.
00:08:40.000 It doesn't matter the sob stories.
00:08:42.000 This is why Savannah's clip yesterday was so telling.
00:08:45.000 Savannah Hernandez, great TPOSA frontlines reporter, she went to New York and just asked men and women what they thought.
00:08:51.000 All the men, she's guilty. 0.99
00:08:53.000 She should go to prison for a long time, for life. 0.58
00:08:56.000 All the women, well, It's complicated. 1.00
00:08:59.000 Postpartum psychosis. 1.00
00:09:01.000 You don't know.
00:09:02.000 You weren't there.
00:09:03.000 You don't understand. 1.00
00:09:04.000 And all these women posting these videos. 1.00
00:09:07.000 This is sick, sick stuff.
00:09:09.000 But the more we learn, the more we learn that there is one man standing against the mob, and he's an absolute legend, an absolute patriot.
00:09:17.000 They're going to out this guy, by the way.
00:09:19.000 This guy's identity will be known by the public, and he will be doxxed.
00:09:24.000 Well, I mean, at this point, they're basically threatening that they might bring some sort of misconduct proceedings against him because they're not even accusing him.
00:09:31.000 They're basically saying this guy has lied under oath to the court.
00:09:35.000 Yeah, he's lying that he could sort of listen to the instructions of the judge, follow the rule of law.
00:09:40.000 And we will get into this Massachusetts law.
00:09:43.000 I feel obliged to give the caveat that it will be funny if it turns out everyone misread it because I don't think they're allowed to know specifically whether they're deadlocked on acquittal.
00:09:51.000 What if this guy is the only one who wants to acquit?
00:09:54.000 Can you imagine?
00:09:55.000 I don't think that's the case, but it could be, we should say, it could be 11 that want to go for guilt and one that wants to acquit.
00:10:02.000 All right, so we've got this graphic here that is Libs of TikTok put this together, and it's a mashup of all the copycats.
00:10:11.000 So, when you're sort of wondering out there, kind of as I've done a couple of times, like when we get these trials that kind of captivate the nation and everybody's focused on them, you know, through the years, you get one of these every so often, right?
00:10:25.000 I think we actually probably get more of these than you think.
00:10:27.000 We just usually don't get a test.
00:10:29.000 You know what?
00:10:29.000 We used to get a lot of them, and then Trump became president.
00:10:32.000 And it was like the whole way we covered politics ended up consuming much more of the oxygen in the room.
00:10:37.000 But this used to be like all the time.
00:10:38.000 Yeah, it used to be.
00:10:40.000 There was less political news.
00:10:41.000 So all the cable had to fill it.
00:10:43.000 Oh, latest mom who went insane. 0.97
00:10:44.000 Yeah, or whatever story that kind of captivated the country.
00:10:48.000 But Zalibza TikTok put this together.
00:10:51.000 And we have it here.
00:10:53.000 But it's just the wildest thing.
00:10:54.000 So in the upper left hand box, they'll throw this up Child two killed in Frankfurt home, mother hospitalized from self harm, police say.
00:11:02.000 Okay.
00:11:02.000 That just happened on September 2nd.
00:11:05.000 Mother accused of fatally shooting her two year old daughter, charged with murder.
00:11:08.000 That's the upper middle box.
00:11:11.000 Mother slit throat of her three children to their father say goodbye to your kids. 1.00
00:11:17.000 Tells father to say goodbye to their kids. 1.00
00:11:19.000 Mother indicted on capital murder charges.
00:11:23.000 She was in the throes of a mental health crisis when she burned her children to death in an SUV.
00:11:29.000 And then let's look fancy in the middle.
00:11:31.000 Mother accused of killing a nine month old child after holding a blanket over its head as she cried bloody murder.
00:11:37.000 Doctors say mother who confessed to killing sons was in a state of psychosis.
00:11:41.000 Mom injected three children with insulin before dying by suicide amid custody dispute.
00:11:46.000 So, some of these might not fit the exact same pattern.
00:11:49.000 I mean, say goodbye to your kids.
00:11:51.000 Sadly, tragically, parents in a custody dispute who decide to just turn their kids into a weapon against the other by killing them or ending them.
00:12:00.000 Well, that part feels connected because Lindsey Clancy apparently didn't want her children to live without her.
00:12:06.000 So she took them out first and then threw herself off.
00:12:09.000 Like a family annihilator.
00:12:10.000 Yes, exactly.
00:12:11.000 Let's go ahead and throw up SOT 17.
00:12:14.000 This is actually a news report of a suspected copycat.
00:12:17.000 SOT 17.
00:12:19.000 A community in shock after police say a two year old dies at the hands of a family member.
00:12:22.000 Frankfurt Police say.
00:12:23.000 It was around 4 p.m. Tuesday afternoon when officers responded to a call for help.
00:12:28.000 First responders arrived in the block of Brookstone Court to find an unresponsive child in a home there.
00:12:34.000 This neighbor, who did not want to be on camera, noticed the commotion and says investigators had been at the usually quiet cul de sac well into the night.
00:12:42.000 Investigators say officers arrived and performed CPR on the two year old child who was taken to the hospital and later died.
00:12:48.000 Police say the child's mother was found trying to hurt herself and was taken to the hospital with non life threatening injuries.
00:12:56.000 Okay, so here's why I think this is important.
00:12:59.000 And we're gonna, we're watching the one hour appeal before declaring a mistrial.
00:13:05.000 I happen to think it's gonna be a mistrial, which, if we're right, it's 11 to 1 to acquit.
00:13:10.000 This might be actually the best option available because, you know, and Jonathan Turley, who is a very smart guy, and he kind of gets this.
00:13:21.000 He said, you know, if you're gonna retry this case, you might avoid doing murder one because that tends to be the highest threshold, sucks all the oxygen out of the room.
00:13:31.000 Do you believe that the prosecution might try this differently?
00:13:34.000 Do you think that they may change the charges?
00:13:36.000 Do you think they may do anything that might give them a better chance of perhaps convincing a jury of their argument?
00:13:44.000 Oh, I think that they should certainly look at this.
00:13:46.000 If it is an 11 to 1 jury, they missed by a considerable margin.
00:13:50.000 They may want to drop Murder One.
00:13:54.000 There's no way that they're likely to secure a Murder One verdict.
00:14:00.000 But it also creates a very high cliff leading into these other counts.
00:14:05.000 Prosecutors often overcharge in these cases.
00:14:08.000 And a murder one charge, I can tell you as a criminal defense attorney, tends to work in favor of the criminal defense because it is such a high standard, sort of sucks the oxygen out of the room.
00:14:19.000 And mistrial is confirmed?
00:14:20.000 Mistrial confirmed.
00:14:22.000 It's like it didn't happen.
00:14:24.000 Wow.
00:14:26.000 Yeah.
00:14:27.000 So this case is now going to be retried.
00:14:31.000 But as he said, they might have to rework it because I don't think it feels unlikely to me the state will try to bring a full murder charge again if they took 12 people and 11 of them were votes to acquit.
00:14:45.000 And that's before this case blew up to be the biggest national thing where it's going to be impossible to select a jury that wasn't really following this, I suspect, where it's even more likely that some people might have a politically influenced attitude on the case.
00:15:02.000 I think they're, you know, the.
00:15:03.000 The chat, our group chat here is speculating whether they're going to retry it.
00:15:06.000 They're going to retry it.
00:15:07.000 They will retry it.
00:15:08.000 They might have to move venue.
00:15:09.000 This really saturated the town of Plymouth.
00:15:14.000 You know, this is what's going to happen.
00:15:16.000 I'm still double checking.
00:15:18.000 Are we sure it's been confirmed?
00:15:22.000 I'm not 100% sure it's been confirmed.
00:15:24.000 I'm just, I want to give one grain of salt here that it's been confirmed.
00:15:29.000 But let me end this segment with this.
00:15:31.000 And then we're going to bring John Doyle on, who was part of this MAGA versus America first debate.
00:15:37.000 That Brandon Straka with the Walk Away guys have been hosting.
00:15:40.000 Really fascinating discussion.
00:15:42.000 But here's why it matters.
00:15:44.000 I believe sincerely that we are in a spiritual battle.
00:15:46.000 You know, we do not fight against only flesh and blood, but against powers and principalities.
00:15:53.000 We know this. 0.97
00:15:54.000 And my wife has been an interesting lens into the female psyche during this Lindsey Clancy trial.
00:16:01.000 And she's been taken aback by many of her friends from high school or, you know, that she's been in touch with or communicating that are feeling this way about their own lives.
00:16:12.000 And there is this malaise, this, I think it's an oppressive spirit. 0.60
00:16:17.000 Candidly, that women across the country are feeling, especially moms, and it's sick.
00:16:21.000 And that's why you're seeing copycat stuff.
00:16:23.000 We have to be a country that has our moral compass completely fixed and right.
00:16:30.000 We cannot get distracted with this stuff.
00:16:31.000 We have to stay true to what is right and wrong.
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00:17:36.000 All right, really excited about this conversation as we are on mistrial watch.
00:17:40.000 We have John Doyle.
00:17:41.000 And John, I was talking to one of your friends over at the Blaze and they really, really impressed upon me that you have to plug your show.
00:17:49.000 So tell, let's start there.
00:17:51.000 Where do people watch you and find you?
00:17:54.000 If you would like to watch me discuss politics on the internet, you can do so at youtube.com slash john doyle.
00:18:00.000 I run the aptly named John Doyle show, and you can find me on Apple, Spotify, wherever it is you get your podcasts.
00:18:08.000 Well, I think that's important actually because, you know, Blake and I have both become fans of yours in, I would say, the last six months.
00:18:16.000 We've really started tuning in.
00:18:19.000 And I think you're on this like massive wave right now, John.
00:18:22.000 On a wave, and because you're saying what needs to be said.
00:18:26.000 About stuff in a very compelling way.
00:18:29.000 And that's why we wanted to have you on.
00:18:31.000 You were in one of these debate panels where people were discussing oh, is MAGA done?
00:18:38.000 Is it different from America First?
00:18:40.000 Also, some of the people saying, should we make some sort of grand alliance with people who we have regarded as being on the left, the far left?
00:18:48.000 Yes.
00:18:49.000 And you had a clip both of us very enjoyed yesterday where you responded to that.
00:18:53.000 You were specifically responding to a post, I believe, by Marjorie Taylor Greene or.
00:18:57.000 Marjorie Traylor, Trader Brown, or whatever she's called on Truth Social now.
00:19:02.000 But I think we should just play that.
00:19:04.000 Clip 12.
00:19:05.000 You've argued that MAGA is the authentic America first, that separating the two is a form of subversion or civic nationalism with a new coat of paint.
00:19:14.000 Can you expand on that? 0.83
00:19:15.000 Yeah, I think that post is one of the most retarded things I've ever read in my history of like reading things about politics on my phone. 1.00
00:19:20.000 We're past this idea that we can unite Americans left, right, and center. 1.00
00:19:25.000 I watched literally millions of Americans who.
00:19:28.000 Happen to vote for Democrats or whatever, celebrate the assassination of arch patriot and second most important national figure for conservatives other than Donald Trump, Charlie Kirk.
00:19:36.000 These are not people who you can unify with.
00:19:38.000 These are people who, even if they don't support and go out in the streets and black block and terrorize well meaning conservatives.
00:19:44.000 He continues on.
00:19:45.000 Yeah.
00:19:45.000 Yeah, I mean, we have a lot of clips from you.
00:19:48.000 And actually, because they're so strong, John, I'm going to play one more before.
00:19:52.000 Well, actually, why don't you?
00:19:54.000 I'll let you fill in because we have all these clips and the descriptions are long.
00:19:57.000 I don't want to pick the right one.
00:19:59.000 Explain what was actually going on here in the basic fault line, the division that was happening here.
00:20:04.000 Yeah, you know, I was hesitant to even.
00:20:06.000 Well, first of all, I'm very bad at my job, as we kind of covered at the beginning of the segment.
00:20:10.000 I'm bad at promoting my content because I don't really enjoy the job of being an influencer.
00:20:15.000 I find it to be very gritty.
00:20:16.000 You know, the kind of people you get involved with, it's just a very gross sort of.
00:20:20.000 I guess, assembly.
00:20:21.000 That being said, if the debate is going to happen, you know, MAGA versus America first, I feel like I have to participate in it because I find the conversation itself to be subversive.
00:20:31.000 This idea that we could be doing something more effective for Americans than what Trump has been able to do.
00:20:35.000 And so we need to break off from Trump and form some new thing.
00:20:39.000 And so I participate in the debate.
00:20:40.000 And, you know, I have my segments, as I'm sure that we'll get into.
00:20:44.000 But that was essentially just to say, yeah, you know, now we are at a time of unprecedented strength for the Republicans in this country.
00:20:51.000 We have never racked up so many victories and put the left on such a back foot.
00:20:56.000 It's unclear to me why now we should be calling for unity with the people who a year ago were celebrating the assassination of one of our most effective operators.
00:21:04.000 So that is language of strength, or excuse me, that is language of weakness.
00:21:07.000 You know, if we were in a position where we were really weak, we would be having to beg the left for unity, beg them to just have conversations with us or something.
00:21:15.000 Now we don't really need to do that because we understand the threat that these people obviously pose to our civilization.
00:21:21.000 And we understand that they have no intention of unifying with us.
00:21:23.000 And so finally, for the first time perhaps in our lives, we are in a position where we get to say, okay, fine, you don't want unity, whatever.
00:21:29.000 We're going to govern the country and make America great again.
00:21:32.000 And what's so interesting too is so many of these people who are promoting this idea of some kind of left right alliance.
00:21:37.000 If you recall, three years ago, these people like Marjorie Taylor Greene were forwarding this idea of the national divorce, which is to say, we have such irreconcilable differences between the left and the right that we literally have to split the country apart.
00:21:50.000 Now, apparently, in the past few years, as we've seen, Indictments, mugshots, assassinations.
00:21:55.000 It's been made clear to her that we actually can unify with the left. 0.71
00:21:58.000 And the real problem is the Epstein class or data centers or something like that. 0.95
00:22:02.000 So it's just totally ridiculous.
00:22:04.000 I completely agree, by the way, John. 0.92
00:22:07.000 I cannot, for the life of me, okay, I get it.
00:22:10.000 People are upset about Iran.
00:22:12.000 I get it.
00:22:13.000 You didn't like Iran.
00:22:17.000 I didn't like Iran, if you want to know the truth of it. 0.99
00:22:20.000 But to your point, it's like. 0.95
00:22:25.000 In our lifetimes, we've never achieved so much.
00:22:28.000 We looked at the chart yesterday that was foreign born Americans in the United States, and it's up, Our whole life goes logarithmic under Biden.
00:22:38.000 And finally, this one, bam, 3 million backwards.
00:22:41.000 They've undone Obama's first term in less than two years. 0.69
00:22:45.000 Yeah.
00:22:45.000 And by the way, every month we break new records on deportations, new records on self deportations.
00:22:51.000 Every month.
00:22:52.000 And by the way, if you don't think that that is like civilizationally.
00:22:56.000 Important, you have not been listening to our show. 0.85
00:22:59.000 The immigration issue is the fix everything switch.
00:23:03.000 Okay? 0.87
00:23:03.000 There are other switches that might be there if we could. 0.87
00:23:05.000 It's a comical one you look for.
00:23:07.000 It's like, oh, now we have had a huge crash in foreign students, which means all these left wing universities, they're having their finances melt down and some of them might have to close.
00:23:16.000 We're ruining out DEI.
00:23:18.000 Shockingly, oh, suddenly there's a surge of hiring and various blue collar jobs because wages had to go up.
00:23:23.000 It's just all of these good effects are coming downstream.
00:23:26.000 There's so much good here, and I get it. 1.00
00:23:28.000 Iran played at every single fault line imaginable. 0.94
00:23:32.000 It's the Israel debate. 0.95
00:23:33.000 It's the foreign policy debate.
00:23:35.000 It's the we're not focusing on affordability debate.
00:23:38.000 I get it.
00:23:39.000 It was literally the one thing that could just rupture a lot of these people's brains.
00:23:45.000 But you made such a good point here.
00:23:46.000 I'm going to keep letting you tell it in your own words because this is from the debate itself.
00:23:50.000 Sot 13.
00:23:51.000 If you took 100 people who are more sympathetic to the America First rather than the MAGA side today, they are not going to say that.
00:23:57.000 They are going to say that Trump has betrayed us.
00:23:59.000 We need to do either a new party, which fractures the GOP, or we just sit out and don't vote because the whole thing is corrupt.
00:24:05.000 That's why Democrats love this conversation.
00:24:07.000 That's why they amplify it in mainstream news.
00:24:09.000 That's why the same social media algorithms, which banned me, Banned you, I think, banned at least two other people on this side.
00:24:15.000 All of a sudden, now they love conspiracy theories.
00:24:17.000 Why is that?
00:24:18.000 Because the ultimate thing is don't support Trump and disengage from politics.
00:24:23.000 It's such a good point. 0.95
00:24:23.000 If you took 100 MAGA and 100 America First, which, by the way, like it's a stupid delineation for the record. 0.95
00:24:30.000 I just think it's told I'm America First. 0.86
00:24:33.000 You're America First.
00:24:34.000 I'm born here.
00:24:36.000 I will die here.
00:24:37.000 My kids are born here.
00:24:38.000 I am given everything I got to keep this country going on a sane trajectory.
00:24:43.000 I love this country.
00:24:44.000 Just because I don't sufficiently, like, I don't know, hate Jews or something, I don't get to be a part of this new America first, like, cutaway breakaway. 0.95
00:24:52.000 I don't know.
00:24:53.000 That's essentially what I see as the divide.
00:24:56.000 But it is so subversive because, to your point, we could keep going down the list.
00:25:01.000 We have the lowest murder rate that we've ever recorded per capita since like 1900.
00:25:06.000 Crime is dropping like crazy.
00:25:08.000 It turns out when you start deporting people and enforcing laws, crime drops, murder drops.
00:25:13.000 Again, you keep going up.
00:25:15.000 I'll give you the floor.
00:25:17.000 I'm just very excited about this conversation, John.
00:25:19.000 Well, that's the thing they never want to call balls and strikes.
00:25:23.000 We did this debate, right?
00:25:24.000 Where it's MAGA versus America first.
00:25:26.000 The idea is what should we do?
00:25:27.000 Who should we side with?
00:25:29.000 Every segment we did 30 minutes relitigating the Iran war, where we're arguing about who wanted this to happen less. 0.64
00:25:35.000 We all agree, basically, but who wanted this to happen less? 0.67
00:25:39.000 Now we do 30 minutes about the Epstein files.
00:25:41.000 We all agree this was not handled well.
00:25:42.000 Well, who's angrier about how this was handled?
00:25:45.000 I literally sat there, I didn't say a word the whole time. 1.00
00:25:47.000 Because I frankly didn't want to debase myself by playing king of the hill with a bunch, it was just a stupid conversation. 0.97
00:25:52.000 So I kept trying to like drag the conversation back to the stated purpose for the conversation, which was okay, so what? 0.97
00:25:59.000 So what are we supposed to do about it?
00:26:02.000 And you notice every segment was about Iran, Epstein, flock cameras, which I don't know what that has to do with Trump, but it was all meant to tarnish the image of the Trump administration.
00:26:11.000 There was no segment on immigration, there was no segment on crime, things that without exaggeration are going to save tens of thousands of American lives.
00:26:17.000 I mean, what gets more America first than that?
00:26:20.000 They never talk about these.
00:26:22.000 And to the extent that they do, they deny that they're happening.
00:26:24.000 They deny the existence of the mass deportations, which CNN is happy to report on.
00:26:29.000 They deny the existence of anything being done about cracking down on anti white discrimination, which the New York Times is happy to report on. 0.81
00:26:35.000 So they are like meaningfully and purposefully distorting the conversation, which, sorry, I'm honest, I can't assume that that is in good faith. 0.67
00:26:44.000 I mean, we wouldn't tolerate this kind of behavior if we were working at a restaurant or something.
00:26:49.000 And certainly we shouldn't tolerate it.
00:26:51.000 In a political movement which is literally fighting for the future of our civilization, which all of us are going to have to live in.
00:26:57.000 Yeah, I mean, that's it's so so apt.
00:27:00.000 It's just even that the topic selection was all just to sort of continue, you know, driving these fault lines deeper.
00:27:08.000 And when you have an administration that has accomplished more than any other administration in living memory for the conservative cause, it's just wild.
00:27:18.000 I mean, you could maybe argue Reagan, but I actually, I mean, I think as we re examine some of the Reagan era stuff, there's there's Valid critiques there.
00:27:25.000 But it's just wild that this mass demoralization campaign has been so effective with so many people that have platforms and have followers.
00:27:33.000 I'm going to play another clip from your debate, SOP 15.
00:27:37.000 I don't care about the intent.
00:27:38.000 The effect is the same thing.
00:27:40.000 I do not care about the intent.
00:27:41.000 This is subversion by definition.
00:27:43.000 Frankly, this whole conversation is subversion by definition.
00:27:46.000 Well, you say we can't recruit them.
00:27:48.000 That's how Trump got reelected.
00:27:50.000 Going into 2024, Republicans and independents were ranking immigration as their most important issue.
00:27:54.000 We've spent five minutes tonight, if that, talking about immigration.
00:27:57.000 Instead, we've spent like an hour and a half relitigating the Iran war and the Epstein files.
00:28:01.000 Get that?
00:28:01.000 He's been the best president we've had on immigration in a century.
00:28:04.000 He's the only president to ever meaningfully combat anti white discrimination more so than Nixon.
00:28:08.000 We're debating what's in the way of the fixing fix.
00:28:11.000 Literally, like the social media incentives that you guys are all capitalizing on because you know you're going to get like epic viral go off moments.
00:28:19.000 Oh, dang.
00:28:21.000 That's really what gets it for me.
00:28:23.000 John Dora.
00:28:24.000 Ah, you're so good at it.
00:28:25.000 I'm telling you, brother.
00:28:26.000 You're having your moment.
00:28:27.000 You are having your moment.
00:28:28.000 You're having your viral go off moments, which are the good ones because they're highlighting, as we say.
00:28:34.000 I actually read an amazing tweet from another guy I follow that was so good this morning, and he just says, A fundamental problem for the right versus the left is that the right, if you fix problems, it makes people forget about them.
00:28:47.000 It's way better to be the left and to make the problems you complain about worse and avoid responsibility.
00:28:52.000 Because think about it.
00:28:53.000 They do that all the time.
00:28:54.000 They do it in housing.
00:28:55.000 Every single left winger is like, I'm a housing activist.
00:28:58.000 Every city they run has the most expensive housing, and it always gets worse because they make it worse.
00:29:03.000 Their ideas fail.
00:29:04.000 So, John, I got to ask you.
00:29:06.000 So, you were in the end of that clip, you were sort of isolating what you think is driving the incentive structure.
00:29:14.000 I believe that that was an accurate thing you said about the social media clips and your go off moment and all that stuff.
00:29:22.000 Do you think there's anything more insidious going on here?
00:29:24.000 I mean, a lot of people are alleging foreign bot activity, like foreign nudging.
00:29:31.000 Do you think it's possible some people are paid off?
00:29:34.000 I mean, I'm not alleging anything, just to be clear.
00:29:36.000 I'm just asking what are the options on the list and what do you think is really going on here?
00:29:41.000 Yeah, I mean, obviously, I think a lot of this has to do with foreign countries obviously having an interest.
00:29:47.000 In the failure of the Trump movement, as Trump, of course, has been the only person to ever meaningfully put America first at scale, while imperfectly still certainly did better than any president we've seen in our lifetime.
00:29:57.000 So, if I'm a foreign country, I, of course, have an interest in the failure of that movement.
00:30:01.000 I want somebody who's going to concede to this idea of multipolarity, who's going to allow for an ascendant China, Russia, India, whatever you want to call it.
00:30:08.000 So, the foreign thing is certainly part of it.
00:30:10.000 I'm positive that there's some sort of like DNC laundering component, perhaps, you know, rogue cells still occupying the deep state.
00:30:18.000 Giving these influencers talking points, ideas, and so on. 0.99
00:30:21.000 Some of it is just that they are genuinely stupid and just seek attention above all else. 0.98
00:30:25.000 What I would say, though, is that I would urge people to not need a reason to kind of give themselves permission to write these guys off. 0.99
00:30:34.000 You don't need to have confirmation that they're being paid off by the CCP to write them off.
00:30:39.000 You don't need to have confirmation that they're working for the DNC to write them off.
00:30:43.000 What they are saying is demonstrably false, demonstrably harmful to our movement, which does need to succeed on the margins to succeed at all.
00:30:52.000 And so, by virtue of that alone, it can be dismissed, especially when you look at the personal conduct and they just lie about everything.
00:30:57.000 Like they lie about something, get called out on the lie.
00:31:00.000 Well, the reason I lied was because I really just care about things.
00:31:02.000 So I'm going to keep lying tomorrow.
00:31:03.000 It's like obviously just treacherous, just horrible behavior that displays no integrity.
00:31:09.000 So I think that the sooner these people are exiled from the movement, the better.
00:31:13.000 And I don't say that because of their ideas.
00:31:15.000 I'm not trying to bring back the age old tradition of conservative blacklisting because someone said something naughty about a controversial idea.
00:31:21.000 I'm saying that in order to enact change, we need stable, committed, virtuous people.
00:31:27.000 These people are not stable.
00:31:28.000 They're not committed.
00:31:29.000 They're not virtuous.
00:31:30.000 Therefore, we don't need them at all.
00:31:32.000 Yeah.
00:31:32.000 I mean, it was interesting, too, in this idea that they lie.
00:31:36.000 I will tell you, and Blake and I can attest because we've been sort of on the front lines of all the Charlie Kirk trutherism and stuff.
00:31:44.000 It's wild.
00:31:46.000 It has been a revelation.
00:31:48.000 The extent to which people will lie, they'll get called out on the lie, and they won't.
00:31:53.000 Correct what they say.
00:31:54.000 They won't correct.
00:31:55.000 They will just keep regurgitating the lie.
00:31:57.000 They'll move on to the new one.
00:32:00.000 Yeah, it's both.
00:32:00.000 They'll regurgitate the lie that's been debunked, but they keep moving on to a new one and they keep coming up with new lies to just parrot and keep stringing people along.
00:32:08.000 This is why I love what Andrew Wilson, who was also on that panel to your left, I believe, is doing.
00:32:14.000 He's drip drip.
00:32:15.000 I love it because he's using their sort of like gaming of the whole algo against them.
00:32:21.000 And I think it's actually really important.
00:32:23.000 You kind of mock and you use their tools against them.
00:32:26.000 I mean, but we don't want to become the monsters that we despise either.
00:32:29.000 And I think that's why your call to virtue and integrity is so important.
00:32:33.000 And I think Jesus says this in scriptures you will know them by their fruit.
00:32:36.000 You will know them by their fruit.
00:32:38.000 And the fruit of a fractured, chaotic movement where everybody's backbiting and infighting, and we're spiraling into these purity test moments, which Charlie never did.
00:32:49.000 Charlie was always first principles.
00:32:50.000 Do we agree on 80 and disagree on 20?
00:32:52.000 Great, you're on the team.
00:32:54.000 We'll figure it out, right?
00:32:55.000 Do you agree on the big stuff?
00:32:58.000 Purity spirals are a sign of a very broken movement.
00:33:02.000 It's a bad sign.
00:33:03.000 When you see purity spirals, look out.
00:33:05.000 That is a red flag.
00:33:08.000 John, we have two minutes left here.
00:33:11.000 What would you like to see happen before the midterms?
00:33:14.000 But candidly, I don't know if it's too late for that or not, but towards the midterms, towards 2028?
00:33:20.000 Everyone needs to pick up their Bible, man.
00:33:22.000 I feel like so often we're just a movement of everybody pretending to have read their Bible, which I myself have never completed a cover to cover read.
00:33:28.000 So I'm not pretending to be holier than thou or Or anything, but what does it say about the way Satan exists and the way he operates?
00:33:34.000 He is the father of lies.
00:33:36.000 He is the accuser. 0.96
00:33:37.000 What does that mean?
00:33:38.000 He is someone who makes false accusations, bears false witness, one might say, specifically to divide otherwise good people oriented toward a good cause.
00:33:46.000 That's what all of these people are doing, whether they know it or not.
00:33:49.000 They are serving the father of lies.
00:33:51.000 Everyone thinks the commandment, thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor, just means don't lie.
00:33:56.000 I mean, obviously, there are plenty of parts in the Bible that talk about God hates a lying tongue.
00:33:59.000 This is a bad thing.
00:34:00.000 But specifically, bearing false witness against your neighbor is this.
00:34:04.000 It is accusing him of doing something, having no integrity, partaking in something nefarious, something sinister behind the scenes.
00:34:11.000 I can't prove it, but trust me, I saw it.
00:34:13.000 He's compromised.
00:34:14.000 This is the conduct of all of these people.
00:34:16.000 And perhaps by coincidence, if they are successful, the most evil people in the history of the planet are going to return to power and undo everything good that we've done in the last three years and cement their rule such that no further good can be done in our lifetimes.
00:34:30.000 And they've made it very clear that they're going to actually go after people legally.
00:34:33.000 Who have tried to throw their weight behind the cause, looking to institute good throughout the country for well meaning, good Christian American patriots.
00:34:41.000 Yeah.
00:34:41.000 I urge brothers and sisters to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teachings you have learned.
00:34:49.000 Keep away from them, for such people are not serving our Lord Christ.
00:34:54.000 By smooth talk and flattery, they deceive the minds of naive people.
00:34:58.000 Romans 16.
00:35:00.000 Amen.
00:35:00.000 Pick up your Bibles and put on the armor of God.
00:35:04.000 John, really good stuff, man.
00:35:06.000 And, uh, and, Thank you for saying the hard things.
00:35:08.000 And just, I mean, I know it's coming from a place of a little bit of frustration, too.
00:35:11.000 I think we all feel it.
00:35:13.000 But you're speaking truth, brother.
00:35:15.000 So keep it up.
00:35:16.000 John Doyle.
00:35:16.000 Thank you.
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00:37:32.000 Ellie, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
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00:37:38.000 Hey, can you hear me?
00:37:39.000 Yes, yes, we can.
00:37:40.000 So, you always say that we can call in and ask whatever we want.
00:37:44.000 So, I love going to concerts and other events, and I've gotten myself a little bit of a reputation for making bracelets for people that I follow.
00:37:53.000 So, I'm coming to Amfest this year for the first time.
00:37:55.000 So, what are your favorite colors?
00:37:58.000 Oh man.
00:37:59.000 Blake, you seem like a colors guy.
00:38:01.000 What's that supposed to mean?
00:38:03.000 Okay, there's two types of men.
00:38:04.000 Let me explain this there's men that know their colors, and there's men like me who basically have the.
00:38:11.000 I have like.
00:38:11.000 You're colorblind.
00:38:13.000 I know red, green, blue, yellow, black, white.
00:38:16.000 You can't see colors at all, which is tragic.
00:38:19.000 Colors are nice.
00:38:19.000 I see color.
00:38:20.000 It's not.
00:38:21.000 Okay.
00:38:22.000 Common misperception when it comes to colorblind people.
00:38:26.000 I'm not like very colorblind.
00:38:28.000 My brother is very colorblind.
00:38:30.000 I'm just a little bit like I have trouble between like orange and red sometimes and things like that.
00:38:34.000 It's colorblind.
00:38:35.000 But I see colors.
00:38:36.000 I see my world is vibrant to me.
00:38:40.000 So I would say, you know, I don't think I ever got further than blue and green are my favorite colors.
00:38:46.000 Apparently, green is more of a high IQ color, which is food for thought because I think my favorite color is blue.
00:38:52.000 Yeah.
00:38:52.000 I mean, we're just, we're boys.
00:38:54.000 Yeah.
00:38:55.000 I think that's, you know, red, white, and blue is also a good color.
00:38:58.000 I'm surprised too.
00:38:59.000 I like it when people that are better with colors.
00:39:01.000 Like, my wife is very good with color.
00:39:03.000 She used to work in the wedding business and she would put the flower arrangement together and stuff, and I'd just be blown away.
00:39:08.000 I'd be like, that's the most beautiful thing I've ever seen.
00:39:10.000 I could never do that.
00:39:11.000 I will say a color I like more than most people, although I wouldn't say it's my favorite, is yellow. 0.96
00:39:16.000 When I play my stupid board games, I usually pick yellow for whatever reason. 0.76
00:39:20.000 I tend to like bright colors in general, which is, I think, unusual for a dude. 0.96
00:39:27.000 There's also the kind of guys that just like the earth tones.
00:39:31.000 Yeah.
00:39:32.000 I think I like yellow because we had the whole 90s, 2000s, everything became all those muted metallic colors.
00:39:40.000 It's like every movie you watch looks like it was shot in an unlit garage.
00:39:45.000 And I like, you know, we want the Technicolor look of things.
00:39:48.000 Yeah, I like, I'm a darker skin tone guy, which is hilarious.
00:39:52.000 Like, there's this whole rumor online that I'm Jewish. 0.97
00:39:54.000 Not Jewish.
00:39:56.000 I am.
00:39:56.000 There's a rumor for you?
00:39:58.000 People are always going after me, and they're like, Neff, sounds like a Jewish name.
00:40:02.000 No, my last name is actually Anglicized Norwegian, believe it or not.
00:40:06.000 People don't know that.
00:40:07.000 It was apparently, because, you know, we like to think that racism is a, at least the left thinks, racism is some modern phenomenon and it's only about brown people.
00:40:16.000 No.
00:40:16.000 When my ancestors came, because I'm sort of a mutt, I have all kinds of different stuff.
00:40:20.000 I've got Mexican, I've got Italian, I've got German, I've got a bunch of English, Irish, and my last name's Norwegian.
00:40:27.000 And it was anglicized because when, I guess, my great grandpa got to Michigan, nobody would give him a job because his last name was too Norwegian, and it was like a very Anglo culture.
00:40:37.000 So he tried to anglicize it so he could get a job.
00:40:39.000 Anyways, that's not about colors.
00:40:41.000 Ellie, have we given you enough to work with?
00:40:44.000 Yeah, that's good.
00:40:45.000 Thanks.
00:40:46.000 I can't wait to make you guys bracelets.
00:40:48.000 Hopefully, I'll be able to wear it proudly.
00:40:50.000 Hopefully, I'll be able to run into you guys and I'll be able to give them to you.
00:40:54.000 I am extremely run intoable.
00:40:56.000 I've been known to just haunt the VIP floor.
00:40:58.000 I'm a little less run intoable.
00:41:01.000 But you know where you can always find us is in the members' podcast lounge.
00:41:05.000 Yes.
00:41:05.000 So we have a private room with a bunch of seats and we host private podcasts and interviews that we're doing with the people that are coming in to speak at the event.
00:41:16.000 And so you can always find us there and come up and give me the bracelet.
00:41:19.000 That would be great.
00:41:20.000 I will say we got a follow up question in email.
00:41:23.000 From Aaron.
00:41:23.000 If Andrew is colorblind to orange and red, what does Arizona look like to him?
00:41:28.000 It looks brown.
00:41:29.000 It looks brown.
00:41:32.000 I will tell you, Arizona has some beautifully just like purplish, red, orange sunsets.
00:41:38.000 It has some purplish deserts.
00:41:40.000 Have you ever been to Petrified Forest yet?
00:41:43.000 You should go sometime.
00:41:44.000 That is an exotic place.
00:41:46.000 I don't like exploring Arizona very much, unfortunately.
00:41:49.000 Well, why not?
00:41:50.000 Because I work, I take care of my kids.
00:41:54.000 I love my wife.
00:41:55.000 I work. 0.94
00:41:56.000 Take them.
00:41:57.000 No, but we did the Flagstaff thing, and we actually, anyways, I want to go to Monument Valley.
00:42:03.000 That's where I want to go.
00:42:05.000 Like all the old Western movies.
00:42:06.000 All right, next question here.
00:42:10.000 We have Rain, I believe.
00:42:13.000 Rain, unmute yourself.
00:42:15.000 Hello.
00:42:16.000 Hi, Rain.
00:42:17.000 Hey, how are y'all?
00:42:19.000 Oh, we're good.
00:42:19.000 We're well.
00:42:20.000 Thank you.
00:42:20.000 How are you doing?
00:42:22.000 I'm doing great.
00:42:23.000 I just have a couple questions.
00:42:25.000 I'm trying to register to come.
00:42:28.000 To help y'all ballot chase.
00:42:30.000 Great. 0.76
00:42:31.000 Door knocks.
00:42:32.000 And I'm having trouble registering.
00:42:34.000 And I've tried it on my laptop and I've tried it on my phone.
00:42:38.000 And it's the screen.
00:42:41.000 I mean, I've even had my daughter look at it and it just jumps.
00:42:44.000 And I, you go to tpaction.comslash 100, right?
00:42:49.000 Commit 100?
00:42:50.000 Yes.
00:42:50.000 Yes.
00:42:51.000 Yes.
00:42:52.000 The link that y'all sent.
00:42:53.000 Okay.
00:42:54.000 tpaction.comslash 100 should get you all the things because we have a bunch of people that have signed up.
00:43:00.000 Like, It's doing the campaign is going really well.
00:43:03.000 So, praise God for that.
00:43:04.000 So, I know it's working.
00:43:06.000 Here's what it's probably working.
00:43:08.000 I just had to get a new phone and I don't understand this 17 yet, but I just keep trying to maneuver through it and it's just not letting me.
00:43:15.000 So, if the phone is an issue, but you need to temporarily do it, I might even suggest going to like a public library if they have desktops you can access.
00:43:24.000 How about this?
00:43:25.000 How about we get your email, Rain, and then Daisy will loop you in directly with somebody on that team.
00:43:32.000 And then we'll just, that would be great.
00:43:33.000 We'll just, yeah.
00:43:35.000 That's the kind of service that we give to our members.
00:43:39.000 So, members.charliekirk.com.
00:43:41.000 You get the inside track.
00:43:43.000 I want to come the whole month.
00:43:45.000 Oh, perfect.
00:43:46.000 Yeah, we'll give you a hotel room.
00:43:48.000 And listen, hey, if you get over your first hundred names, we'll give you a hundred more.
00:43:52.000 So we can go as hard as you want to go and for as long.
00:43:56.000 We do offer a full month, and we'll give you a hotel room and make sure you're all taken care of.
00:44:00.000 So please take advantage of that.
00:44:02.000 TPAction.com.
00:44:04.000 Be like rain.
00:44:05.000 TPAction.com slash 100.
00:44:08.000 TPAction.com slash 100.
00:44:10.000 You said you had another comment one minute before the break if you want to take that.
00:44:13.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:44:15.000 So.
00:44:15.000 I was watching y'all, you know, when it went after, you know, after hours, the day of the hearing, you know, the judge's decision.
00:44:25.000 And Andrew, I just wanted to tell you, I sent y'all an email.
00:44:28.000 I doubt y'all saw it, but my daughter had something.
00:44:32.000 I mean, she, it doesn't even pale.
00:44:34.000 It pales in comparison to the death of Charlie, but it took us five years fighting the FBI, the DOJ, and the New Orleans Police Department.
00:44:46.000 The crime against my daughter.
00:44:49.000 And the words that you said when you said you just don't understand it, unless you're in the courtroom and you're breathing that same air.
00:44:59.000 And oh, I just felt that.
00:45:01.000 I felt it so intensely because I remember those days.
00:45:05.000 Five years it took us.
00:45:07.000 And I know that it won't take y'all five years, but because we went through the COVID lockdown thing, that was part of it.
00:45:14.000 But my heart just went out to you because I get it.
00:45:19.000 Yeah, thank you, Rain, for that.
00:45:21.000 Yeah, you don't realize it until you're in that courtroom.
00:45:24.000 It's very true.
00:45:25.000 You don't.
00:45:25.000 I mean, we're going to go to courtrooms.
00:45:27.000 And it's so small.
00:45:28.000 It's so small.
00:45:30.000 And, you know, you're mere feet away from, you know, the person that murdered your best friend.
00:45:38.000 Yeah.
00:45:39.000 Right.
00:45:40.000 Yeah.
00:45:40.000 And by the way, I got, you know, Erica is in the row ahead of me, but, you know, a couple seats down.
00:45:46.000 So she's there.
00:45:47.000 And Charlie's mom is right there.
00:45:48.000 And his dad was basically right in front of me.
00:45:51.000 And I will tell you, it is a.
00:45:53.000 A profoundly different experience in that courtroom.
00:45:57.000 And you can just, you can't just drive it.
00:45:59.000 No, you can't.
00:46:00.000 And I actually was texting with Jack and Graham that were in, you know, during the preliminary hearing.
00:46:05.000 And it's, they both agreed.
00:46:07.000 They were just like, man, people have no idea.
00:46:09.000 When you're in that courtroom and when you're connected to it personally, it's a profoundly moving and transformative experience.
00:46:17.000 So thank you, Rain.
00:46:18.000 God bless you.
00:46:20.000 Who's up next?
00:46:20.000 Who do we got next?
00:46:22.000 Rain was so sweet.
00:46:23.000 I think Abby was next.
00:46:24.000 Abby, welcome to the show. 0.68
00:46:26.000 Please unmute yourself.
00:46:28.000 Can you guys hear me?
00:46:29.000 Yes, ma'am.
00:46:30.000 Okay.
00:46:31.000 Instead of a question, I actually wanted to give you guys some points of encouragement after everything that happened Tuesday.
00:46:37.000 So, in 2024, I had the honor of being on a federal grand jury for a year, and we did hundreds of cases during our time.
00:46:44.000 So, I got to see full circle of how the justice system is.
00:46:47.000 Many of our cases came full circle indictment, pleaded guilty, sentence in less than six months.
00:46:54.000 Some took a year.
00:46:55.000 And one case I've been following since 24, the defendant still has yet to be sentenced.
00:46:59.000 So, the system needs work, but have faith that justice will be served.
00:47:04.000 And the second thing I want to talk about is what Mr. Novak said.
00:47:08.000 He said incredibly hurtful things to you guys, but I also remember a student asking Charlie how he felt about being called a fascist.
00:47:15.000 And he replied, I don't care being lied about.
00:47:18.000 So we have to remind ourselves that a lie will always be a lie, no matter how many people believe it.
00:47:23.000 And the truth will always be true, no matter how many people reject it.
00:47:27.000 Amen.
00:47:28.000 Amen.
00:47:29.000 I think that's really well said.
00:47:30.000 And there's that verse I was just reading.
00:47:33.000 It says, I'm going to paraphrase it because I was about to look it up.
00:47:37.000 But.
00:47:37.000 You know, basically have faith when the world hates you because the world hated Christ first, you know.
00:47:49.000 And it's just the truth of a believer.
00:47:52.000 You know, I think as things get crazier and we become, you know, either less Christian, God, I'm praying for the country to return to faith and that revival would happen. 0.52
00:48:03.000 But as things get crazier, and even as just a part portion of the country becomes more antagonistic, And against Christianity, this is becoming more in our face.
00:48:13.000 It's getting louder and in our face.
00:48:15.000 But I think for years, Christians just sort of assumed hey, persecutions happen around the world, but they don't happen here.
00:48:20.000 But they do happen here. 0.69
00:48:22.000 And Charlie is a perfect example of that because it is the truth tellers that are hated.
00:48:29.000 It's not the people who lie to you.
00:48:31.000 The people who lie to you can get an audience and people will support them, they'll buy into the lie.
00:48:36.000 Lies are convenient.
00:48:37.000 But the people who tell you the truth, the truth is powerful and they will hate you for it.
00:48:43.000 And they hated Christ for it.
00:48:45.000 They hated Charlie for it.
00:48:46.000 Got it.
00:48:46.000 John, John 15.
00:48:48.000 If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first.
00:48:51.000 If you belong to the world, it would love you as its own.
00:48:54.000 As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world.
00:48:58.000 That is why the world hates you.
00:49:01.000 And it goes on at the end.
00:49:02.000 This is to fulfill what is written in their law.
00:49:05.000 They hated me without reason.
00:49:07.000 Yeah.
00:49:07.000 Yeah.
00:49:08.000 Exactly.
00:49:09.000 So I keep that close to my heart because, you know, it.
00:49:16.000 Some of the stuff that we've seen, and I think John Doyle did a great job of explaining it.
00:49:20.000 Some of it's so irrational and it makes no sense.
00:49:23.000 They hated him for no reason.
00:49:26.000 And I think it was a misstep by Mr. Novak.
00:49:29.000 I think that backfires on him, but I believe he was playing to the camera.
00:49:32.000 It was sort of the debate was it a slip of the mask?
00:49:35.000 Was it an accident?
00:49:36.000 Was it just him assuming everybody sort of agrees with him?
00:49:39.000 He's a California.
00:49:40.000 I believe he's based in California.
00:49:42.000 Yeah, he's a liberal attorney.
00:49:44.000 Go ahead.
00:49:45.000 What's that?
00:49:46.000 In this day and age, you can't really tell.
00:49:48.000 Yeah.
00:49:48.000 Wow.
00:49:49.000 So, you know, I think maybe he just assumed everybody agreed with him and saw things the way he did and that he was just sort of stating a fact.
00:49:57.000 But I actually think it was him playing to the audience, him playing to his defendant.
00:50:02.000 And, you know, I think it was legally a really bad idea because he's, you know, I've said this before, but it bears repeating.
00:50:09.000 He was saying, hey, we don't know why Tyler Robinson, you know, hated and said, you know, some hate can't be negotiated.
00:50:16.000 We don't know that was political.
00:50:17.000 Well, yeah, we do.
00:50:19.000 And then he goes on to explain why we do because he says, well, Charlie did say hateful things.
00:50:23.000 Okay.
00:50:24.000 About gay people, about people that were non gender conforming, as he said. 1.00
00:50:29.000 So he worked against his own case, which was pretty stupid. 0.99
00:50:32.000 But thank you for the encouragement. 0.98
00:50:34.000 And as Blake said, I believe that night, you know, when we were covering it in the evening, that the justice system grinds slowly, but it grinds fine.
00:50:47.000 And when you're in that courtroom, I will tell you, it does feel like it grinds fine.
00:50:50.000 Like, The minutiae, every single detail.
00:50:55.000 Something to be grateful for.
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00:52:23.000 Sarah from Canada, unmute yourself.
00:52:25.000 What's your question?
00:52:26.000 Hi, can you guys hear me?
00:52:27.000 Yes.
00:52:29.000 Awesome.
00:52:29.000 So, yeah, hi from Canada.
00:52:32.000 So, first off, I'd like to say I love America.
00:52:35.000 I am not like more than half of the rest of Canada.
00:52:38.000 I love you guys.
00:52:39.000 We love you.
00:52:40.000 But we are in a trade war with the United States and Canada.
00:52:43.000 And I think our prime minister started it.
00:52:45.000 That is my opinion.
00:52:48.000 But he's considered in Canada now.
00:52:50.000 His like poll numbers are crazy.
00:52:52.000 He's basically considered a wartime prime minister.
00:52:54.000 And looking at him and thinking he's like the savior of Canada, he's standing up to like a fascist president or something.
00:53:01.000 It's crazy.
00:53:03.000 But how do you guys think a Canadian conservative can respond to this?
00:53:09.000 Because there's no shot now with the way things are for us to win.
00:53:14.000 Election at all.
00:53:15.000 Like, we just had three by elections federally, and like liberals won those like landslide, right?
00:53:22.000 So, it's like, how should Canadian conservatives be responding to this?
00:53:26.000 And have American conservatives ever been in this situation?
00:53:31.000 Honestly, it's a tough question to take.
00:53:33.000 What can they do?
00:53:33.000 Because I think you'd agree, Sarah, that there's been, it's kind of that Canadian national identity has been defined so much, not on its own terms, but just in relation to.
00:53:47.000 To the United States.
00:53:48.000 What'd you say?
00:53:49.000 In the break, you said they have a really.
00:53:51.000 Like a little brother relationship, kind of an inferiority complex such that they identify themselves as we're like America, but more left wing.
00:53:59.000 We're like America, but more European in our outlook.
00:54:04.000 We're like America, but we're more secularized.
00:54:06.000 We're like America, but more pro immigration.
00:54:10.000 They're not coming from their own first principles of what their nation should be.
00:54:14.000 It's being defined in relation to America.
00:54:16.000 And bluntly, this is something where.
00:54:19.000 President Trump entirely encourages this because Trump, he likes being the center of attention.
00:54:24.000 He presses all of their buttons.
00:54:25.000 He pushes all of their buttons.
00:54:27.000 And so, as I'm sure you remember and can confirm, Sarah, it looked like Trudeau was incredibly unpopular. 0.98
00:54:33.000 Conservatives had an opportunity, but Trump comes on the scene and he starts saying, he starts talking about Canada being the 51st state, starts bullying a bit, pushes all of their buttons, and they say, screw you.
00:54:44.000 We're going to elect Mark Carney and do all of this, and we're going to love him no matter how bad things are.
00:54:50.000 It's tough to say, but I feel like the best answer for conservatives might be.
00:54:55.000 You need to ride it out until President Trump is gone because I think he is going to continue pushing a lot of Canadians' buttons.
00:55:03.000 Can I explain why, though, this is probably happening?
00:55:06.000 Trump understands leverage better than basically any president we've ever had, right?
00:55:10.000 And he understands that, according to some estimates, Canadian trade into the U.S. accounts for over 20% of the GDP.
00:55:19.000 Recent estimates have it 20 to 23% of the economy of Canada.
00:55:24.000 In the reverse, Canadian goods account for 3% of the US GDP.
00:55:29.000 So, a much smaller slice of a much bigger pie.
00:55:33.000 And so, the leverage game, Trump knows he's got leverage.
00:55:37.000 And if you guys are going to go toe to toe with us in a trade war, we're going to ultimately win.
00:55:41.000 It might hurt us.
00:55:42.000 It might hurt Trump a little bit.
00:55:43.000 I don't think he cares.
00:55:44.000 And I think he's kind of just saying, hey, you guys have been taking us for a ride for a long time.
00:55:49.000 We've been run by people that sort of have this sense that we owe the world everything and we're cool getting ripped off on every trade.
00:55:56.000 And he's just done with it.
00:55:57.000 And so, He's going to push back, you know, and it's like 50% tariffs on about $20 billion of Canadian goods.
00:56:06.000 So about 5% of the annual exports to the U.S.
00:56:09.000 So it's only a 5% chunk of it, but it includes dairy, alcoholic beverages.
00:56:14.000 You know, a lot of people love the Canadian whiskey.
00:56:17.000 So like Crown is Canadian, right?
00:56:20.000 Paper and wood products, clothing, furniture, electronics, hockey equipment.
00:56:24.000 That's funny.
00:56:25.000 And assorted consumer items.
00:56:27.000 But this sits on top of an earlier Section 232 tariffs.
00:56:30.000 Of 50% on steel, aluminum, copper, auto parts, lumber.
00:56:34.000 I'm not actually even sure if it is great leverage because I think he would have had, I think a lot of our trade negotiations would have gone better if we had a conservative in office, which it seemed like we were headed for.
00:56:44.000 But he likes the idea of expanding the map.
00:56:46.000 He likes that McKinley stuff.
00:56:48.000 I think sometimes Trump just does stuff.
00:56:50.000 You made an interesting observation, though, in the break.
00:56:53.000 And what's interesting about Canada is the left wing is defined much more by its nationalism than the conservatives.
00:57:00.000 And so maybe there's an answer in that.
00:57:02.000 The conservatives need to sort of establish their own national kind of nationalistic movement, right?
00:57:09.000 Because the conservatives in Canada often relate to Americans more.
00:57:13.000 But maybe there just needs to be sort of more of an established, like, hey, we have a proud conservative Canadian identity and it is distinctly Canadian and we're proud of it.
00:57:23.000 You know, so maybe there's something there.
00:57:24.000 Yeah, it's, as we said, the left in Canada defines itself in relation to the US, like the US, but more liberal.
00:57:31.000 The right is usually more pro America, but you might need like a lingo that can essentially say, Actually, yeah, the Canadian left, everything revolves around U.S. news, U.S. politics.
00:57:42.000 How about we have things revolve around Canada, Canadian conservatives?
00:57:47.000 That's a messaging that I think the Canadian right can develop, but you have our sympathy.
00:57:52.000 I know it's very tough, and this too shall pass.
00:57:56.000 Yeah, great question.
00:57:57.000 We had an email that you wanted to address.
00:57:58.000 Somebody wants to become a member, but wasn't able to.
00:58:00.000 Oh, yes, let's do that because someone said, Where do I have it?
00:58:08.000 Basically, one of y'all wrote in and said, Yes, yes, all right.
00:58:11.000 She says, My husband, I can't afford to be members right now, but I was hoping you could answer what do you feel about having a national prayer day for Charlie, possibly on the date of the trial when that date is scheduled to pray for justice for Charlie and his family?
00:58:25.000 Maybe President Trump could do this.
00:58:27.000 I love this idea.
00:58:28.000 I'm going to float it.
00:58:29.000 I'm going to float it.
00:58:30.000 But also, she said she can't afford it.
00:58:32.000 We're going to gift you a membership.
00:58:34.000 So if we can get.
00:58:36.000 All right, we can send that on to Daisy, yes.
00:58:38.000 Absolutely.
00:58:39.000 So, I think, oh, I think so.
00:58:43.000 Yeah, okay, great.
00:58:44.000 Yeah, okay. 0.89
00:58:44.000 So Daisy's handling it. 0.89
00:58:46.000 Okay, thank you.
00:58:46.000 All righty.
00:58:47.000 Who's next?
00:58:47.000 So, we have Mary, and this is another one we have to read.
00:58:51.000 So, Mary asks, what was Charlie's favorite quote or Bible verse?
00:58:58.000 And that's the question.
00:59:00.000 All right.
00:59:00.000 So, what was Charlie's favorite quote or Bible verse?
00:59:02.000 Do we have that?
00:59:03.000 I think we have that loaded.
00:59:03.000 This is 1 1 and it's Romans 8 28.
00:59:06.000 But beyond that, we actually have a quote.
00:59:08.000 I think this is from literally his last interview.
00:59:11.000 On that day, he was asked quotes that he lives by at the restaurantology event.
00:59:16.000 So, let's play clip 19.
00:59:18.000 What is a quote that you live by?
00:59:20.000 I'll give you two.
00:59:21.000 One is actually not the Bible, it's more mythological.
00:59:24.000 And one is actually in the Bible.
00:59:25.000 The first is not in the Bible.
00:59:26.000 It's this too shall pass, which was actually, people think it's in the Bible.
00:59:29.000 It's not.
00:59:31.000 But it's King Solomon's phrase, which is really amazing when you think about it because it's good no matter what season of life that you're in.
00:59:36.000 If you're going through the worst of times, this too shall pass and things are going to get better.
00:59:41.000 If you're going through the best of times, though, it's really humbling.
00:59:44.000 Like this too shall pass and this will fade away because this will not last forever.
00:59:47.000 So I love that.
00:59:47.000 And they don't.
00:59:48.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:59:49.000 So it's a time transcendent truth that applies towards all.
00:59:54.000 Periods as an entrepreneur.
00:59:56.000 It humbles you when you need it and builds you up when you need it, gives you hope when you need it.
00:59:59.000 It also gives you a little bit of a dose of a gut check.
01:00:02.000 One of my favorite verses, though, is Romans 8 28, which says that God works all things for good for those who love Him.
01:00:09.000 It's a very freeing and liberating verse for those of us that are Christians because we believe that when things can be really bad, God is working it for His good, His perfect and pleasing will, which is a very, very hard teaching when you come across business closures or staff layoffs.
01:00:21.000 But it's very liberating that God is working all things towards an ultimate good.
01:00:25.000 So I love that.
01:00:26.000 And it kind of is very freeing that I don't have to be in charge of everything.
01:00:30.000 And there is a God and I am not Him.
01:00:31.000 And I surrender to His will.
01:00:33.000 It's amazing.
01:00:34.000 It's almost like when I watch the movie.
01:00:35.000 It's remarkable to see that, realizing that was on.
01:00:37.000 Yeah, that was the morning before it happened.
01:00:40.000 And I think it's really.
01:00:43.000 For me, it's heartening because it's almost like Charlie's leaving us little Easter eggs that help us process the fact that there is a God.
01:00:50.000 We are not Him.
01:00:51.000 We don't have to understand the why all the time.
01:00:52.000 Total surrender.
01:00:53.000 Yeah, we surrender to the fact that He's got a plan.
01:00:56.000 And, you know, I love reading 828.
01:00:58.000 In all of its context, by the way.
01:01:01.000 So you start at verse 26.
01:01:02.000 It says, In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness.
01:01:05.000 We do not know what we ought to pray for, but the Spirit Himself intercedes for us through wordless groans.
01:01:11.000 And He who searches our hearts knows that the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for God's people in accordance with the will of God.
01:01:17.000 And we know that in all things, God works for the good of those who love Him, who have been called according to His purpose.
01:01:22.000 For those God foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among Among many brothers and sisters, and though he predestined, he also called those he called, he also justified those he justified, he also glorified.
01:01:36.000 And then it goes into we are more than conquerors through Christ, which is, and I just know another verse that he liked a lot, although he didn't mention that clip.
01:01:43.000 He loved Genesis 1 1.
01:01:45.000 In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth, and you know, specifically that he spoke creation into existence.
01:01:51.000 Charlie loved to talk about that, it relates to the gospel because God speaks it.
01:01:55.000 The word in the beginning was the word, God created through the word, which is law.
01:02:01.000 It's like the gospel is there from the very beginning of the Bible.
01:02:04.000 And he also liked that it says, at the beginning, there was a God and you were not there.
01:02:09.000 You are not God.
01:02:10.000 He loved to say that, you know, there is a God and you are not him.
01:02:13.000 So that's another favorite of his that his team was reminding us of.
01:02:18.000 Yeah.
01:02:19.000 I mean, I love that clip.
01:02:20.000 That was such a powerful clip.
01:02:22.000 And, you know, I didn't really absorb that event because it was the morning of, and I was prepping to guest host the show that day.
01:02:30.000 And were you with him at that?
01:02:31.000 I wasn't in that event.
01:02:33.000 I was waiting outside it.
01:02:34.000 Yeah.
01:02:34.000 Fair enough.
01:02:37.000 Yeah, man.
01:02:39.000 Charlie loved scripture, though.
01:02:41.000 And I was actually, you know, we're doing all these interviews left and right.
01:02:45.000 I've got one, and Blake's got one just today after the show.
01:02:47.000 And it's just funny because people keep asking us these little stories, and all of this is coming back.
01:02:55.000 We're kind of being forced to relive it, partly because it's the one year, but partly because we're just being asked about all this stuff.
01:03:02.000 And I haven't thought too much about that event.
01:03:05.000 So I'm glad the team pulled that.
01:03:09.000 So, Curtis, unmute yourself, and what's your question?
01:03:12.000 Well, yeah.
01:03:13.000 So I called and talked to you guys last week.
01:03:15.000 I'm the Eastern Oregon Lifetime Family Rancher about the issue.
01:03:21.000 Right.
01:03:21.000 And so I really applaud you guys for putting an emphasis on this.
01:03:25.000 And again, I just wanted to clarify real quick.
01:03:28.000 I don't want to dominate.
01:03:30.000 I mean, I really appreciate you taking my question because it's so important to not only the family ranching and farming communities of America, but also to the consumer.
01:03:38.000 And, you know, we were discussing, I think you asked me what would be the one main thing that would help ranchers and farmers.
01:03:46.000 And I alluded to the point that energy is the main driver of everything.
01:03:52.000 I didn't want to impress, or I didn't want, I kind of have a monopoly is going on in the energy oil business, kind of like it is in the beef business.
01:04:05.000 But I didn't mean at all to put price controls.
01:04:08.000 I do not believe in that at all.
01:04:10.000 That's exactly the wrong thing to do. 0.98
01:04:12.000 But I do believe that all segments of our society, healthcare, thank goodness for Bobby Kennedy, Secretary Robert Kennedy, the Maha movement, we are so on board for that. 0.98
01:04:24.000 That's exactly what.
01:04:26.000 We as family ranching want to do, and I just want to make so clear to the public and to you guys that the corporate cronyism influence is just so sinister and so corrupting.
01:04:41.000 I didn't know until President Trump's first term how bad it really was, but it was an enlightening moment.
01:04:48.000 And I just want to, you know, I just want to make contact with our consumers and our customers.
01:04:55.000 I appreciate you guys being thank you, thank you, ranchers.
01:04:59.000 Good rancher sponsoring.
01:05:00.000 So it's not really a question.
01:05:02.000 I just wanted to have a clarification.
01:05:04.000 So thank you very much for that.
01:05:05.000 Yeah, of course.
01:05:05.000 Of course.
01:05:06.000 And I think we see that.
01:05:07.000 I think a lot of industries are like that.
01:05:09.000 That it's just, if you go into any industry and ask them what it's been like, I think they'll tell you there's been too much concentration compared to the past.
01:05:17.000 There's been too much, you know, a handful of actors got a ton of power in Washington and they see their interests taken care of before locals.
01:05:25.000 And I think ranching is just one example of that, arguably a case where it's not that bad.
01:05:29.000 There's a big four cartel of meatpacking instead of a big two, a big one.
01:05:33.000 And by the way, Thomas Massey actually had this bill that I actually think would be really good where if you're a local rancher, you could take it to a local processor and still sell it to grocery stores.
01:05:47.000 Would that idea help you, Curtis?
01:05:49.000 Absolutely.
01:05:50.000 The Prime Act, I think, is what you're referencing, and it would be wonderful.
01:05:54.000 Yeah, exactly.
01:05:55.000 These are things that we should be pursuing.
01:05:58.000 And what did you think about Ben Spell from Good Ranch?
01:06:01.000 He's on yesterday.
01:06:02.000 He's putting so much emphasis on having to mandate country of origin on the packaging.
01:06:09.000 Would that help you?
01:06:11.000 Well, that's, yes, it would be.
01:06:14.000 We've been, not only we as producers have been betrayed, but more importantly, our customers and consumers have been absolutely deceived by, yes, that would be a huge, big help.
01:06:26.000 Yes, that would be huge.
01:06:29.000 Important that even though the imported meat would come in, at least it would be designated and correctly labeled that it's from a foreign country.
01:06:38.000 And it would give the consumer the choice of either buying the higher quality, better meat, which is made in the United States, which is produced in the United States, or if they have to go with the cheaper, it's going to be poorer quality.
01:06:53.000 I can guarantee it happens.
01:06:57.000 Yeah, Americans want to buy American meat, they want to support you.
01:07:01.000 So, you know, not only is it higher quality, they want to buy American.
01:07:06.000 And that's important to them.
01:07:07.000 It's important to me.
01:07:08.000 And that's one of the reasons we partner with Good Ranchers because they're so committed to American ranchers.
01:07:14.000 Yeah, thank you for that, Curtis.
01:07:15.000 I have one more question.
01:07:16.000 I know we have more, but what about basically expanding the supply of diesel, which would take more refineries?
01:07:22.000 There's some regulations, but that should be a priority, right?
01:07:25.000 Oh, absolutely.
01:07:26.000 We have got to get the cost, especially in industry and in agriculture.
01:07:30.000 Everything we do is based on.
01:07:32.000 I'm right now talking to you through Starlink.
01:07:34.000 Thank goodness for Elon Musk and that.
01:07:36.000 I'm able to be connected.
01:07:38.000 But yes, we absolutely have to get the diesel more and get it down there so that we can afford to operate more internationally.
01:07:48.000 Amen, Curtis.
01:07:48.000 So we got to work on diesel, expanding the supply there.
01:07:52.000 The Prime Act, you're saying that's a good thing.
01:07:54.000 And then American meat, mandate that beyond packaging, country of origin.
01:07:58.000 Exactly.
01:07:58.000 All sounds good.
01:07:59.000 We have another question we want to hit here because we only have three minutes. 1.00
01:08:03.000 Elizabeth, unmute yourself.
01:08:05.000 What's your question, Elizabeth?
01:08:07.000 Yes.
01:08:08.000 Hi, guys.
01:08:08.000 Thank you so much for taking my call.
01:08:10.000 Of course.
01:08:10.000 We're still praying for you and Charlie's family and his wife.
01:08:14.000 Thank you.
01:08:16.000 The question I had was so, your lovely senator is always posting about this one particular woman who is being deported.
01:08:26.000 She had a final deportation order back in 2005.
01:08:31.000 Since her final deportation order, she managed to open up three restaurants, buy a home, and marry an American citizen.
01:08:40.000 How does that happen if you have a final deportation order?
01:08:42.000 Where's any of our interior enforcement?
01:08:45.000 So, this is, I believe her name is Kelly Yu. 0.97
01:08:48.000 I think she is a Peoria restaurateur.
01:08:53.000 I'm Googling this myself, but it appears.
01:08:55.000 Is it Diego or Mark Kelly?
01:08:56.000 Mark Kelly.
01:08:57.000 Mark Kelly's been highlighting it.
01:09:00.000 I guess she's been in ICE detention for a while and then was released.
01:09:04.000 Okay.
01:09:04.000 You guys want a white pill?
01:09:07.000 If we continue our current pace of deportations, We, for Trump's term, we will have 15.3 million fewer foreign born people in this country.
01:09:19.000 Folks, flashing red lights. 0.99
01:09:23.000 We are winning.
01:09:24.000 We are succeeding.
01:09:25.000 This is huge.
01:09:27.000 Okay.
01:09:27.000 So, anyways, these sob stories basically, we can't have nice things in our culture because of sob story.
01:09:33.000 Insert sob story.
01:09:34.000 Yeah.
01:09:34.000 And that broke our law.
01:09:35.000 And that's what they calculate.
01:09:36.000 They'll say, oh, well, we just need a temporary thing, wait for their court hearing.
01:09:41.000 We need to focus on the bad actors.
01:09:42.000 And then what they do is they drag it out and then they go, Well, they've been here so long, now it's cruel to deport them.
01:09:48.000 No, the cruelty was done by the left to cynically manipulate the system where someone who was supposed to be sent back immediately and they delayed it, delayed it, delayed it so that they could try to emotionally manipulate you into not enforcing our laws.
01:10:02.000 They are the villains, they are the evildoers here.
01:10:05.000 And the answer is yeah, for a lot of people, there was just no interior enforcement at all that you could blow off a hearing, you could blow off an order, and they would say, they would use the excuse of, we're focused on the top priority cases.
01:10:17.000 For what the actual policy was, which was just amnesty.
01:10:21.000 And by the way, we know that's not true because you don't get like Trendor Aragua takeovers entire like apartment complexes if you're just trying to get the evildoers out and the worst of the worst or whatever.
01:10:30.000 No, none of this.
01:10:31.000 They weren't focusing on any of it.
01:10:32.000 Okay.
01:10:32.000 The problem became too big and they had no political will to deal with it.
01:10:36.000 By the way, if you're an illegal, they were going to give you a free lawyer, they're going to give you debit cards and free cash, discounted housing. 0.94
01:10:43.000 The whole thing was so patently ridiculous.
01:10:47.000 So glad we're not in that era anymore and we have to fight to keep it going because this is much, much better. 0.91
01:10:51.000 Much better.
01:10:53.000 Thank you guys.
01:10:54.000 We'll see you next week.
01:10:55.000 It's going to be a big week, an emotional week, and we'll see you then.
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