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00:01:17.000Okay, well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard.
00:01:20.000It's time for this week's edition of Thought Crime Thursday, or of course, maybe listening to this on Saturday when it drops.
00:01:29.000The reason I mention this is because here, as we record it, as we commit all of these thought crimes, the Lindsey Clancy case, as Has been reported in the last couple of weeks.
00:01:47.000We're hearing reports about potentially one holdout juror.
00:01:51.000And again, you know, if you're listening on Saturday, perhaps, like we said last week, perhaps this is precluded, perhaps this has ended, and some verdict is in.
00:02:01.000But as far as now, there is no resolution yet and no end in sight.
00:02:08.000But As we keep an eye on that, we know that one thing, like taxes, is always inevitable in this life, and is that every week on Thursday, there will be thought crime.
00:02:59.000Six very amazing classic arcade games.
00:03:03.000You've got Rio Run, where you have Tom Homan and you round up a conga line of illegals at the border to deport them back to their countries of origin.
00:03:12.000When you capture them, they actually put on orange jumpsuits.
00:07:59.000It's people coming with like fraudulent claims to get like welfare and Medicaid fraud.
00:08:04.000And like they would have different levels in Rip Beer Tabra.
00:08:06.000So, like, one could be the Medicaid office, and then you have the daycare office, and they're coming and they're all immigrants trying to scam the system.
00:08:11.000And you're like throwing a camera at them or whatever to push them back and expose the fraud.
00:09:31.000And so you were these guys who had snow powers, and you'd throw them at bad guys, catch them in a giant.
00:09:39.000You know, giant snowball basically, and then you'd kick it and it would defeat the enemy.
00:09:43.000You just take it and you make it ice bros, exact same thing as snow bros.
00:09:47.000They still have the snow powers, and you catch the illegals, you get them in the giant snow trap, and then you kick it and they get kicked out of the country.
00:10:32.000And you have them, and all the players keep fouling you.
00:10:35.000No, but it's actually like girls on girls, but then if you know the secret pass, code, then yeah, you get the guys and they just right right, right and they're twice as fast and they can dunk there's dunking everybody.
00:10:46.000Then you could bring in like that that, that french wait, and the final, the final game is, of course, you have to play against, like the 14 year old boys team.
00:10:55.000Dude, I know how you do the Street Fighter, you do the Street Fighter one and like, what would happen is you could like, you could be honestly, you could like be President Trump and then you just like are like bowling over all of the like Democrats that he beat in, like 2016 or 2024, like anyone who ran for president, or, of course, you could be VP Vance.
00:11:16.000But I think we need to have like a swim meet, too, where like how far can Riley Gaines swim or something like that, and then just goes up against.
00:11:26.000I think the Street Fighter is a good idea, but it has to be the meme versions of everybody.
00:11:31.000Yeah, no, it's like you get like Chuck Schumer, he's like your first opponent, he's like easy to beat.
00:11:37.000Oh, wait, Actually, it should be we should have a Mario Kart version, and then we should have a A super Smash Bros.
00:11:48.000And, like, what's the character that could turn into anyone else?
00:14:34.000You could do fake news paperboy where it's like he's throwing out the New York Times to everybody, but then you have to get away because every time somebody reads it, they get mad and they try to come after you.
00:15:44.000It reminds us of, you know, they actually have, they set another record for deportations last month, and I suspect they'll set another record this month.
00:16:47.000You can get one for every country in Europe, every country in the world.
00:16:51.000But the one that went really viral was just map of the United States and you can fill it out and say, I'd definitely, maybe, Never, whatever you want, 100% live in each U.S. state.
00:17:04.000And I just sent it around and said, guys, we have to fill this out and say, where would you be willing to live?
00:18:06.000You know, certain places like, like Tyler, I knew you were going to say that about Cape May, but like, it's like if there's one space in the entire state that you would live, would you still say absolutely?
00:18:17.000That's, that's why I was kind of like, it's part of the maybe, right?
00:21:37.000Did you know that the people that ended up doing the French Quarter, I think it was like some French guy who ended up doing the city layout for New Orleans, he started in Mobile.
00:22:16.000Charlie used to always say, I can't stand being in Tennessee.
00:22:21.000I don't know why, but he just, I mean, he liked the people there a lot, but he just, I remember telling him, like, well, maybe we should have some operation in Tennessee.
00:22:29.000In Tennessee, he was like, absolutely not.
00:23:00.000Uh, as white as New England, you know what?
00:23:02.000Okay, Missouri is probably a weird one in there because Missouri, Eric Schmidt, and I went on this like back and forth text chain for like quite a while talking about all the beautiful places in Missouri.
00:23:14.000While I was flying over Missouri, I just had the Wi Fi up and I was texting, I was like, I see Kansas City, and I, you know, and then I was like, man, this is actually some really beautiful stuff down there, and I never think about Missouri being beautiful.
00:23:26.000And he's like, man, this state is so beautiful, people.
00:23:29.000And anyway, so I've checked it out quite a bit, and it's a beautiful state.
00:23:33.000Andrew's map is basically a red versus blue map minus Utah and California.
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00:26:35.000Yeah, because we tried to get you to move out to Phoenix a couple of times.
00:26:37.000Charlie worked you over on that, and you actually thought about it, though.
00:26:42.000No, no, I certainly considered it, but that would have been very much like a, like, I'm moving for work kind of thing, not like a, I wouldn't move for any other reason than that.
00:27:04.000You know, if I, if I wanted to live, you know anywhere, I want to live Maine or Pennsylvania um, that's kind of the dream obviously is to is to, like you know, have a place in Maine, which I don't, and then and then like be able to do summers up there, that kind of thing.
00:27:18.000Yeah um, so you know it's interesting and uh, you know, my family's got, uh got ties to Maine, so i've been going up there since I was a kid and uh obviously Pennsylvania, just just love Pennsylvania, there's no question.
00:27:29.000Plus, I also told Tanya Tay once that I don't think I could live anywhere that doesn't have a Waha, so potentially Mobile would be on the list.
00:27:36.000However, It is not in Eastern time zone, and I am very much an Eastern time zone supremacist.
00:27:42.000The world should be run on Eastern Time.
00:27:44.000And in fact, we should, while we're renaming things, I actually think that we should, and we're looking at like daylight savings.
00:27:50.000And of course, we've had that debate on here.
00:27:52.000We should take Greenwich Mean Time away from the British.
00:29:54.000It will be at some point when we declare war against the cartels and we actually take that back.
00:30:00.000People will, in you know, historians will go through and be like, where did they get this idea to invade this strip of Mexico and reclaim it for Arizona?
00:33:51.000I'm not talking about ghouls who throw firebombs, even though that's a problem, but that happens in a lot of places.
00:33:56.000I'm talking California is the sort of place where you will get them to just pass a law where they'll just take 40% of your money as like an excise wealth tax, which they're voting on in a couple months.
00:34:07.000That is California's special breed of horrible.
00:34:53.000Yeah, I would say that about San Jose, New Mexico, Cape May, New Jersey, you know, certain parts of like certain parts of Delaware, I suppose.
00:35:07.000That's the other thing with California for me that most of these states, even the blue ones, have their like very red areas.
00:35:16.000California's actually been so overrun that the places you think of as the Republican parts of California, other than really tiny counties in the north, Those don't exist anymore.
00:35:28.000Orange County is now a bunch of Democrat stuff.
00:35:31.000Central Valley is heavily illegal immigrant.
00:35:34.000Do you guys ever see the movie with Robert Downey Jr. called Kiss, Kiss, Bang, Bang?
00:35:44.000He said, It's like somebody took the country and shook it from the East Coast, and everybody's sane managed to hold on, and everybody else fell into California.
00:37:27.000And so he and I drove in his car, like he drove me, and we went all the way into the city.
00:37:33.000And so he started from his house to drive all the way into the city, and it took like legitimately like two and a half hours.
00:37:38.000I'm like, Well, we were going, and then we got near the stadium, there was nowhere to park, and like I was like, throughout, I was just like slowly working on it.
00:37:46.000I'm like, Man, this is not really great, this is like a really bad.
00:37:50.000Like, yeah, he's like, no, no, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine.
00:37:53.000And then when he moved out here, he loved the convenience factor.
00:37:58.000He loved because it was really COVID that got him permanently out here.
00:38:01.000It was a little bit before COVID, but I'm trying to think after starting to date Erica and then that.
00:38:05.000But like, then he was like here, and then he was like, oh, yeah, this is so much.
00:38:08.000This is the convenience factor because he lived his life that was like, well, he also loved the sun and the topography, he likes seeing mountains, but just like the convenience.
00:38:17.000Wait, so I you keep saying convenience factor, but like, one of the main reasons that I didn't move to Phoenix was because I thought it was so inconvenient.
00:38:45.000I'm telling you, I actually hate that.
00:38:47.000The convenience of everything is so good, but in the East Coast, it's like jug and like Dallas is this way too.
00:38:53.000It's like jug handles and exiting takes like five to Eight minutes, like the thing that drives me crazy is like you have to exit, it takes forever to exit to get off the freeway.
00:39:01.000Us, it's like you get off the freeway, and like within like two seconds, you're at your New Jersey.
00:39:08.000Well, unfortunately, it's New Jersey that's like extremely poor.
00:39:10.000Like, it's that's just a Jersey thing, the jug handles, by the way.
00:39:13.000That's not like all of these, but Texas has something similar to that.
00:39:16.000The Texas, yeah, no, Texas is, yeah, I know what you mean.
00:39:20.000It's like the big freeways, it's like the thing that drives me nuts about Dallas is like you can see.
00:39:26.000Your destination almost everywhere you go, like, you could see it, and it still takes you like 15 minutes to get up there.
00:39:32.000It reminds me of walking on foot in Vegas, where you're like, oh, the cosmos just there.
00:40:30.000I like it in small doses, but no, I couldn't live there.
00:40:33.000I can't stand Florida when we're there.
00:40:36.000Like, even in December, the gala, when we're there for the gala, it's like way worse in Florida in December than it is here in July, weather wise.
00:40:43.000What I do like about Florida is because Florida's weather and humidity is unfathomably terrible.
00:41:00.000It's chilly, but what Florida has, what Florida has, Is because their weather is so uniformly terrible, all they have is having good government.
00:41:10.000So Florida is just by far the best governor state on a day to day level.
00:42:28.000You and Fawz here have, I should have probably gone with Alabama because the Gulf Shores and all that's like basically the same as where I would want to live in Florida.
00:42:53.000So you can fly into Boston and be there within an hour.
00:42:56.000It has a massive ski resort at the base of it.
00:42:59.000And it's one of the most beautiful lakes in America.
00:43:02.000Look, guys, I don't want to be that guy, but I will just note that their current argument appears to be in this state, they have this thing called a lake.
00:43:11.000The lake is a body of water that you can engage in recreation on.
00:43:15.000I will note, guys, many states have lakes, and many of them are ugly.
00:43:50.000Like Lake Travis and Cado Lake is the only natural lake in Texas.
00:43:56.000Yeah, but in comparison, I don't know, as an upper Midwesterner, Lakes are not interesting because the glaciers came through and made 10 trillion of them.
00:44:19.000I think it speaks a lot to certain dating dynamics.
00:44:23.000So, Jack, do you know the full background of this story?
00:44:28.000I just know the basics because basically, my buddy's still boneless.
00:44:33.000Friend of the show, we were out this past weekend.
00:44:41.000We actually went to the Renaissance Fair, and he just randomly started telling me about it.
00:44:47.000He's like, Have you seen this fake NFL player?
00:44:49.000I'm like, What do you mean, fake NFL player?
00:44:52.000I initially thought that he meant that it was someone who was running on the field or something like that.
00:44:58.000But apparently, it's this guy who's a social media influencer who's pretending.
00:45:05.000Dejan Love, who is pretending to be an NFL player, and he's like, and scamming followers and women, like all sorts of things, to thinking that he's an actual NFL player.
00:45:19.000And apparently, one of the like convincers on this is that actual NFL players have like interacted with his posts.
00:46:43.000They think an NFL player is a guy who just goes around like wearing his NFL game day uniform, like he's a cartoon character in a Nickelodeon show or something.
00:46:54.000And, yep, that's me, NFL player, NFL player guy.
00:46:58.000It's like he just updated his LinkedIn to say he plays for the 49ers.
00:47:46.000All right, so my question I have a question here though is so are these guys telling the women that they're in the NFL or they're trying to be in the NFL?
00:47:53.000No, they're telling women they're in the NFL and it's an elaborate because any man can.
00:47:58.000So, what they would do is technically it's not a lie, they would string women along, tell them they're in the NFL.
00:48:03.000They would create these fictitious personas about it.
00:48:06.000So, for example, this Dejan Love, he also went by John Love, Avril Lito Love, and Jordan Love, which is a Packers player.
00:48:17.000And I guess he would meet multiple women, string them along.
00:48:21.000And you think if they're dumb enough to believe you're an NFL player, they'll also believe all your excuses oh, I'm not around because I've got to go to the game, I've got to go to practice.
00:49:47.000No, probably trying to get money or, like, I don't know, or, like, I don't know, you know, just to get her to talk to him or whatever, or, like, maybe even meet up in person.
00:50:00.000Like, could have been somebody, but, like, it was super sketchy and really, really scary because it was.
00:50:07.000This guy that she thought it was this guy, he had a lot of followers on Instagram because he had built up this like following is like a fake.
00:50:12.000It wasn't like today where now you have blue checks and everything.
00:50:14.000Like this was five, six years ago where there wasn't blue checks, and she legitimately thought that he was who he said he was because she had been hit up by a lot of different pro athletes and things like that.
00:50:27.000So she had that, but this guy, um, was not him, and it was very scary.
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00:52:59.000Here's an interesting moral question for us.
00:53:01.000If you are lying about who you are, But you are raising money for charity and you're signing things and the money goes to charities, right?
00:53:11.000Is that actually immoral if the money all goes to a good purpose?
00:53:16.000Yes, because there's still a value on whatever you're signing and you're making people pay for something that's fake.
00:53:21.000Yeah, it kind of reminds me of Dave's show.
00:53:24.000But the money's going to you be helping like Jerry's kids or something.
00:53:29.000Yeah, but on the front end of the agreement, it's like the moral question of like, The end zone is fine.
00:53:36.000When money goes for like gambling to charities, right?
00:53:39.000For example, like a lot of people, right?
00:53:41.000On the front end, there's still an understanding of how that money was agreeably made or raised.
00:53:48.000This is just on the front end a straight up lie.
00:54:07.000But, like, yeah, I mean, if everybody was going to lie, it's not what the Tank Mammon says, but okay.
00:54:12.000I know I'm knowingly in pain for a fake NFL player that's going for charity.
00:54:16.000I'm now just picturing a Jesus parable where the fake NFL player comes to Jesus and offers to support his ministry with the money he got from catfishing the women of Galilee.
00:54:25.000And Jesus has a wise parable about this.
00:54:28.000I'm sure there were fake Jesus parables.
00:54:41.000So, Life of Brian is kind of like catfishing in a sense, except that it's innocent in the sense that it's non deliberate catfishing.
00:54:51.000Basically, this guy, Brian, gets born down the road from Jesus, but all of the signs line up, and then he spends the rest of his life kind of getting mistaken for Jesus all along the way.
00:55:04.000And it's a very funny, famous Money Python movie.
00:55:08.000It's where Always Look on the Bright Side of Life is from.
00:55:13.000And there's just a lot of really, really funny, highly quotable scenes from it.
00:55:20.000And, you know, obviously the difference being in that case is that he did not do it deliberately, but people start following him thinking he's the Messiah because, well, you know, they just, they were really looking for that Messiah.
00:56:05.000No, and not with NFL, but it would be like this is how girls on OnlyFans and cam girls and stuff, this is how all this operates.
00:56:14.000There's so much catfishing of guys that goes on.
00:56:16.000Probably, I would go so far as to say there is more catfishing of guys that goes on pound for pound in the world than a There's a lot of catfishing of guys, but the catfishing of guys, the fraud is just them pretending to like you.
00:56:30.000Whereas to get money, whereas I don't know that this career catfishing can happen to you.
00:56:51.000No, I'm not denying that men get catfished, but I don't think men would get catfished by a woman who's inventing a career that they fall for.
00:56:59.000I just think they just get catfished by a woman who, like, doesn't literally just like doesn't exist.
00:57:03.000They just get catfished by a dude, by the oldest girl.
00:57:29.000People off when they meet them in person.
00:57:31.000No, and men have a tough time actually dating someone that is over sensationalizing themselves to begin with.
00:57:37.000And then when they actually do meet them, and then it's like, if I met a woman who had over sensationalized her life, her looks, everything, and then I was like, man, you have to be like next level crazy to make yourself look like that.
00:57:52.000And you're actually a far greater, like a normal person, or like a bigger loser, right?
00:57:56.000Like you've just set all these high expectations and then delivered mediocre.
00:58:09.000Obviously, if you're going out, as we said a couple of weeks ago, if you're going out there, if you're in the dating game right now, Young Kings, number one, ask them their opinion on Lindsey Clancy.
00:58:28.000You know, you guys know what I'm talking about?
00:58:29.000It's when you get your phone and they do this like high angle photo, and for whatever reason, It's able to hide what the rest of them look like and it allows for the shape shifting to take place.
00:59:17.000There is a girl that I knew that she edited her pictures so bad every time that it was like people, guys would meet her in real life and it would be, it was so awful.
00:59:29.000Like she just could never land a second date.
00:59:33.000False marketing, false advertising is a bad thing.
00:59:40.000And you just like guys, you know, it's the bait and switch, it's the rug pull.
00:59:44.000But I feel bad for her because it's like the world has created this environment with women that's like, They have to, they feel like they have to do that.
00:59:51.000What if, what if a hypothetical scenario here, you're dating somebody and she's gorgeous, she's beautiful, and you're like, oh, I want my kids to look like her.
01:00:00.000And then you find out she had like so much face work and her, you know, her face basically looked completely different.
01:02:04.000But I know men, I know lots of men who that's what they do.
01:02:08.000They're basically like some women are pro athlete chasers.
01:02:14.000I know some men who are like social media clout type chasers because they make money and they're stay at home dads.
01:02:22.000And again, I don't even want to get into like, you know, because I don't want to get like hit up by a friend or somebody that I know that like this is their lifestyle.
01:02:30.000But like there are some stay at home dads that come from this and it's like their wife brings in all the money from social media and they're kind of like a pro athlete.
01:02:42.000That depends on what the social media is, though.
01:02:44.000So, are you talking about if the social, if the content, like, for example, I know someone who does this, but it's like fashion and specifically shoes, for example.
01:02:58.000So, like, it's not like taking pictures of themselves.
01:03:01.000It's them, like, his wife, you know, she does like a shoe Instagram page.
01:03:08.000And it's, yeah, it's like a lifestyle, but she's not even like, you know, she talks about the shoes here and there, but it's much more about the focuses on the shoes.
01:03:18.000And like, I don't know, you know, that's not the same thing as these ones where it's like all about themselves and like all about engrossing and constantly posting like thirst traps.
01:03:28.000Like, all I'm saying is, guys, if she's posting thirst traps, you got to stay away.
01:03:34.000I mean, and that's half the internet now.
01:03:36.000Half the internet is like, There's just like women.
01:03:39.000All I post are thirst traps of myself, but I can't help it.
01:03:41.000But there's a significant, unfortunately, the monetization of the platforms has created like a soft landing place here for now, where like that stuff, I actually think it was better when that, the pre monetization, because now there's just like, I mean, we did the numbers on the show.
01:04:01.000There is a dramatic amount of percentage of American women below the age of 40 who are on OnlyFans.
01:04:07.000Like, it's like a really high end number.
01:05:31.000But I mean, look, the problem is there's a lot of pseudo versions of that that exist that once you get into it, it's like it lives forever online.
01:05:42.000And so a lot of women justify their identity around that forever.
01:05:46.000And look, and we've seen a lot of women come out of that.
01:05:49.000But they still have to embrace it for the rest of their life.
01:05:51.000What would be the actual percentage of women that are 29 and younger that are like cam girls in some way, shape, or form?
01:06:02.000What's really creepy, by the way, is there's a lot of them out there where they do it for a few years and then you say the internet's forever, but it's actually not.
01:06:10.000There are ones who they don't reveal their identity and then they purge it and they just lie about it and pretend it never happened.
01:06:35.000Christians, like, work hard, conservatives, and they date some beautiful girl, they fall in love, and they realize, oh, she's lying.
01:06:41.000I mean, I'm sure this has happened multiple times.
01:06:43.000What literally happens is someone, like, hacks that information because that stuff comes out, and they just send it to whoever their current boyfriend is.
01:06:58.000I created something a couple of years ago called the Thought Audit.
01:07:02.000And the thought audit was when we found out that the IRS will pay you a bounty if you can report unclaimed income to the IRS.
01:07:12.000And so, what we were having guys do was they were going in on OnlyFans pages, and like all of them, I heard, I have no idea if this is true because I don't know who they are, but there was this place called 4chan, and they were joining up for these OnlyFans, and they were like getting into the messages with whoever the, you know, like the, what do you call them? Member, the OnlyFans girl, and asking them if they've ever had to pay taxes.
01:07:38.000And when they said no, they were screenshotting it and reporting them to the IRS.
01:08:43.000That number is going to drop like a stone.
01:08:45.000That number is going to drop like a stone once AI takes off because you're going to have, you know, these H1Bs in like New Delhi or wherever it is are going to be running bot farms basically and running all like fake AI companies who are able to do this.
01:09:04.000Well, yeah, I'm sure it was already starting.
01:09:06.000And it's going to be running 24 7, and they're going to be interactive, and they're going to be able to really just set them up on their own.
01:10:21.000He said you have to reduce energy because he did the press conference today and he said you have to reduce energy cost in the community.
01:10:28.000You have to be associated with reducing energy cost and you actually have to provide something of value to the place where the data center is being put into whatever that community is that's being affected.
01:10:38.000And if you're not doing that, then these things just aren't going to fly.
01:10:43.000Imagine if, I will say, imagine if we applied that set of expectations to like, Literally any of the horrible pieces of crap that we build in our towns all of the time.
01:10:51.000Like, actually, before you build this homeless shelter, you have to prove that it will lower energy costs and like provide value to the community.
01:11:00.000I'm just wondering if, like, data centers.
01:11:02.000Or, like, the meth clinics or, like, light vehicles.
01:11:05.000Or, like, every vape shop and every payday lender.
01:11:09.000This is a question I actually have on the tech.
01:11:11.000Does it matter where a data center is built?
01:11:14.000Because if I'm a data center and I'm location agnostic and Americans are like, you got to build a power plant and all this stuff, I'm just going to, like, Dubai.
01:11:24.000As far as I know, it needs to be closer to either a power plant or a, or, like, a, like, a Strong electric grid because of the loss that over a couple of years.
01:11:37.000Yeah, but they're talking about shooting data centers into space.
01:11:40.000This is a real thing that probably is going to happen.
01:12:02.000So, I'm just saying, like, obviously, China, if I'm agnostic about location and Americans are wigging out about it, does it matter?
01:12:10.000I guess is like a question that I haven't heard anybody ask.
01:12:13.000Well, it's so I think I want to say, like, with as long as you're within the United States, technically, like, once it's going, it doesn't matter that much.
01:12:20.000But, like, where they want to build them, but where they want to build them is like, okay, well, where do you have power plants?
01:12:26.000Where do you, but no, no, like, they don't because they need they usually need to build extra power stuff and, like, you need good transmission.
01:12:32.000But, for a fact, they're building them in Mexico.
01:12:34.000Like, it's not a coincidence that the most data centers have been built in like Loudoun County and in the Bay Area because those are like the most developed parts of the U.S. Like, by default, it's best to build them in the most densely developed parts of the U.S. If you're going into random rural areas, it's because you think it'll be easier to get permits and land and all of that.
01:13:20.000This has been fun, especially the AI, AI hose.
01:13:24.000Is Jack, Jack advocates for AI bot hose, yeah?
01:13:31.000Well, look, I'm saying, I'm saying, look, look, you know, if the gooners, the gooners are gonna need something, right, as long as it's not, as long as it's not an actual American.
01:13:43.000An actual American girl, then I think that is a step up.