The Charlie Kirk Show - August 08, 2026


A Tale of Two Revolutions + AMA 274


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00:00:03.000 My name is Charlie Kirk.
00:00:05.000 I run the largest pro American student organization in the country fighting for the future of our republic.
00:00:11.000 My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth.
00:00:14.000 If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're going to end up miserable.
00:00:19.000 But if the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful.
00:00:24.000 College is a scam, everybody.
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00:01:23.000 All right.
00:01:23.000 Welcome, everybody.
00:01:24.000 It is Friday, August 7th, 2026.
00:01:28.000 We are here at the Y Refi Studios in Phoenix, Arizona.
00:01:31.000 How are we doing, Blake?
00:01:32.000 We're doing lovely.
00:01:33.000 It is a glorious Arizona morning, I will tell you.
00:01:37.000 Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful.
00:01:38.000 I liked the glorious Arizona morning yesterday because it was actually kind of cool.
00:01:42.000 It was only like 70 degrees out here.
00:01:43.000 Isn't there all beef with Arizona that it's too cold?
00:01:47.000 Well, I mean, 70 degrees is a good temperature.
00:01:50.000 It's not too cold, Arizona, which is anytime you step into a supermarket.
00:01:53.000 Oh, well.
00:01:54.000 We have much to cover, and I want to get into the current.
00:01:59.000 Situation on the left, okay?
00:02:01.000 The current situation, I was on with Jesse Waters last night.
00:02:04.000 It's always nice when he brings me on.
00:02:07.000 And there is a civil war brewing on the American political left, right?
00:02:11.000 There is the establishment Dems.
00:02:14.000 There are the rising, we'll call them the Young Turks because it ties in, of the DSA.
00:02:22.000 And now there are news reports that the establishment Dems are about to dump $15 million into trying to unseat these people. 0.70
00:02:29.000 There is a story that broke on NBC about a paid influencer campaign that was behind Haley Stevens trying to take out El Sayed.
00:02:38.000 You even saw the same electioneering that was used against President Trump in 2020 and 2024.
00:02:44.000 Possibly, we can't prove it yet, but it certainly has all the earmarks and hallmarks of the electioneering campaign where they stuff drop boxes and they release their votes late, especially in the black precincts, to beat El Sayed. 0.70
00:02:57.000 Haley Stevens ended up falling short.
00:02:59.000 Nevertheless, we know that the establishment was not. 0.83
00:03:03.000 Super ready to cozy up with their radicals.
00:03:06.000 And last night when I was on Jesse Waters, I made a point and I got tons of feedback on it, which leads me to believe that probably I'm going to have to bring in Blake as the resident historian.
00:03:17.000 We're going to have to do an actual multi part series on this.
00:03:22.000 But let's start here.
00:03:24.000 I am of the belief that in the United States of America, the conservative party, the conservative movement, are the inheritors, the believers, the transmitters of the ideals of the American Revolution.
00:03:36.000 Which is life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
00:03:38.000 Now, originally, that was life, liberty, and property.
00:03:41.000 We believe in property rights.
00:03:43.000 We believe in your ability to own things and to have the freedom to trade, sell, buy.
00:03:48.000 All of those things are your freedoms and God given freedoms, by the way.
00:03:53.000 Now, the French Revolution does not believe in that.
00:03:57.000 They have égalité, fraternité, liberté, égalité, fraternité.
00:04:04.000 Egality, egalitarianism, equal.
00:04:08.000 What do we always hear from the American left?
00:04:10.000 Equality, equality, equity, equity.
00:04:13.000 The animal spirits of the American Revolution are alive and well on the conservative side.
00:04:18.000 We wish they were more alive at times.
00:04:20.000 And the animal spirits unleashed in the French Revolution are alive and well in the modern progressive left movement.
00:04:26.000 One gave birth to the greatest country in the history of the world, the strongest, the most prosperous, the most equal.
00:04:33.000 The other gave birth to the French Revolution, which ended in a bloody terror.
00:04:39.000 Now, Blake has.
00:04:41.000 It's complicated.
00:04:41.000 Nuanced thoughts about how it ultimately worked out.
00:04:44.000 The French Revolution is probably the most complicated topic in world history.
00:04:48.000 Edmund Burke, the famous political philosopher from the mother country, was he Scottish?
00:04:55.000 I don't remember.
00:04:56.000 I believe he might have been Scottish.
00:04:57.000 Either way, he was from the Mother England area.
00:05:01.000 The point is, he basically became one of the most famous political philosophers in the world because he was a strong critic of the French Revolution and the ideas that undergirded that movement and led to the Bloody Terror.
00:05:14.000 I made this other point, and I remember Charlie making this from time to time.
00:05:18.000 Robespierre was one of the leaders, the main figures in the French Revolution.
00:05:25.000 He was led ultimately.
00:05:27.000 To a bloody guillotine death of beheading by the same movement that he inspired. 0.53
00:05:33.000 And they cheered his demise. 0.98
00:05:34.000 And they should have.
00:05:35.000 And that is, by the way, the Democrat Party probably has this coming.
00:05:40.000 That is a perfect analog for the Democrat Party and the establishment.
00:05:46.000 They engineered every step along the way.
00:05:48.000 And Blake, you have a great take on this.
00:05:50.000 Two times they blocked Bernie Sanders.
00:05:53.000 And now they get Bernie Sanders on steroids. 0.97
00:05:55.000 They get Mamdani. 0.98
00:05:55.000 They get El Syed. 0.98
00:05:56.000 They get Hong. 0.69
00:05:58.000 They get, by the way, they get Chevalier.
00:06:00.000 There is a lot of these people that are coming up through the ranks.
00:06:04.000 They embrace third worldism. 0.85
00:06:07.000 They embrace racial grievances. 0.78
00:06:10.000 They embraced assassination culture.
00:06:12.000 They refused to police their own when Charlie was assassinated.
00:06:17.000 All of these things are eerily reminiscent of a movement in the French Revolution.
00:06:23.000 And now you've got the young upstarts telling the establishment Dems how it's going to be.
00:06:30.000 Here's David Hogg, SAT 2.
00:06:32.000 What would you say to the moderates in your party?
00:06:35.000 I would say to the moderates in our party, you need to figure out how to actually offer something new to voters that isn't just the same message that you gave them in 2024.
00:06:44.000 Increasingly, the reason why the establishment of our party is being defeated over and over and over again is because they don't have the right values that are aligned with not the Democratic base, but the American people.
00:06:58.000 Maybe David Hogg is a radical because he's angry he's not getting better reception.
00:07:01.000 Yeah, he's got terrible reception. 0.90
00:07:03.000 David Hogg, you got to work on that Bush League.
00:07:06.000 But even worse than that, who do you see out front campaigning with all of these people?
00:07:11.000 Hassan Piker. 0.94
00:07:13.000 And if you hear us bring up his name, it's because he is so beyond the pale.
00:07:17.000 He should be disqualifying for anybody should they embrace his endorsement.
00:07:22.000 They should disavow his endorsement.
00:07:25.000 This is Hassan Piker.
00:07:26.000 He's the same Hassan Piker, by the way, who said that America deserved 9 11, that Rick Scott should be murdered, that capitalist blood should spill the streets. 0.99
00:07:37.000 Murder those MFers, he said. 0.96
00:07:41.000 He's also joked about the assassination of President Trump, saying someone has to do it. 1.00
00:07:47.000 And instead of policing this crook, this absolute cretin, they go out and campaign with him. 0.98
00:07:54.000 And here's what Hassan Piker is saying now. 0.99
00:07:57.000 Listen to this how insane this is.
00:07:58.000 Stop four.
00:08:00.000 I'm 100% closer to the prison abolitionist perspective than the average American's framework on this issue.
00:08:07.000 Because, oh my God, you guys literally fantasize about the violent crimes that.
00:08:12.000 Someone might have committed, and you fantasize further about how you need to create an equal vengeance structure. 0.80
00:08:23.000 Americans sometimes literally feel like they want to be the rapist murderers. 0.94
00:08:31.000 Okay, so that's Hassan Piker saying he's pro abolishing prisons because Americans have a fetishize or fantasize about becoming either a rapist themselves or getting raped. 0.99
00:08:44.000 That we deserve this because we're fantasizing about crime.
00:08:48.000 I mean, it makes sense you would say that because if you really want to get at the heart of why the left loves abolishing prisons, normal people want prisons because they can imagine themselves being a victim of crime and they sympathize with the victim of crime.
00:09:00.000 The left, they sympathize with the criminal and they can easily imagine themselves doing the same things.
00:09:04.000 And so they wouldn't want to go to prison.
00:09:06.000 No, exactly.
00:09:07.000 Well, and I also think it's because somebody like Hassan Piker, who was born in America, yes, but then raised in Turkey, harbors a deep disdain for the American people.
00:09:18.000 He wants you to be victimized. 0.86
00:09:20.000 He wants you to be murdered in the streets. 1.00
00:09:22.000 He wants you to be raped because he actually hates you. 1.00
00:09:25.000 And he hates this country. 1.00
00:09:27.000 And this is the man that is going around campaigning with all of these crazy DSAs.
00:09:33.000 It is the spirit of the French Revolution alive and well in a singular political party, and it is consuming that party.
00:09:42.000 And the host, establishment Dems, are powerless to stop it.
00:09:46.000 God help us all.
00:09:48.000 So, one of the reasons I think this is really interesting, Blake, is because we're starting to see the contours of this movement from Politico, the DSA movement.
00:09:58.000 As results continue to come in in Michigan's hotly contested Senate race, again, that was El Sayed versus Haley Stevens, a class divide is emerging.
00:10:07.000 El Sayed is performing best in places with higher incomes and education levels, while Stevens is doing better in more working class areas.
00:10:16.000 So, this all made me think of something that you brought up.
00:10:19.000 And by the way, we could throw that graphic up if we have it.
00:10:23.000 You mentioned this term on our Thought Crime show of lower elites.
00:10:26.000 Yep.
00:10:27.000 Explain what you mean by that.
00:10:28.000 Well, so it's like it says that he's doing best with people who have higher incomes, higher education levels, and that often it might pop into your head, oh, this is really rich people who are running it.
00:10:42.000 But it's really not like that.
00:10:44.000 It's often what you might call people who feel like, who are actually doing decently well, but feel they should be doing a lot better.
00:10:53.000 You might say, like, Downwardly mobile elites.
00:10:55.000 So maybe they grew up upper middle class.
00:10:57.000 They grew up in a nice house in the suburbs.
00:10:59.000 They went to school, got a bunch of education, but then what they thought their life was going to be never quite panned out.
00:11:05.000 So maybe they got a PhD, but they never became a distinguished college professor.
00:11:09.000 They're just doing postdoc after postdoc, or they're an associate faculty member who's never going to get a tenure track.
00:11:15.000 Or they're working at a nonprofit.
00:11:17.000 Yeah.
00:11:17.000 Or working at a nonprofit making 70K, but they think they should be making a lot more.
00:11:22.000 A lot of that.
00:11:23.000 There was a great article in the New Yorker about Subaru socialists, they call them.
00:11:28.000 And Those people are objectively actually middle class.
00:11:30.000 They probably, if you know, two people making 70K each, that's higher than the American median average, but they'll often feel like they're not getting ahead, especially if they grew up making even more, in a household making even more.
00:11:43.000 And so these are the people who are the absolute shock troops of the Democratic Party.
00:11:46.000 Like, perfect way to predict a Democrat voter is someone who has a graduate degree or a PhD making between $30,000 and $60,000 a year.
00:11:55.000 That's not a person who's in outright poverty.
00:11:57.000 That is not a person who is starving, but it is a person who feels super frustrated about their life.
00:12:02.000 And They're smart enough to feel tons of complicated resentment about it.
00:12:07.000 Yes.
00:12:07.000 And you were bringing up ties to maybe the Bolshevik revolution.
00:12:11.000 Yes.
00:12:11.000 You were bringing up how this relates to those movements in the past.
00:12:15.000 Exactly.
00:12:15.000 And if you look, almost any revolution, you'll have famous revolutions, but they're rarely just like a peasant uprising.
00:12:22.000 You almost always need someone who is an angry elite or a frustrated elite or like a kicked out elite. 0.73
00:12:28.000 So the Bolsheviks, a lot of the people reading that, they're pretty smart people. 0.76
00:12:32.000 They're maybe the children of priests, they're the children of like merchants, capitalists who. 0.82
00:12:38.000 Got radicalized against the system and decided they wanted to blow it up.
00:12:41.000 And then they whip up the workers to support them.
00:12:43.000 The French Revolution, Robespierre.
00:12:45.000 What was Robespierre's job?
00:12:46.000 Do you know?
00:12:47.000 I don't.
00:12:47.000 Robespierre was a rural French lawyer.
00:12:52.000 Interesting.
00:12:52.000 And tons of lawyers in the French Revolution, tons of the lower bourgeoisie.
00:12:56.000 That's really fascinating.
00:12:57.000 Yeah.
00:12:57.000 So Robespierre was not an angry peasant.
00:13:00.000 Robespierre was not a.
00:13:02.000 He was educated.
00:13:03.000 He was not a starving guy.
00:13:04.000 He was a highly educated, capable person who was elected to the assembly when they first had it.
00:13:10.000 And he had a bunch of really radical ideas that he put into practice.
00:13:14.000 And those were a lot of the guys who were the most radical in that revolution.
00:13:17.000 It isn't.
00:13:19.000 Too far to say that oftentimes these radical left leaning revolutions are powered by the resentment of the lower elites.
00:13:28.000 Yes.
00:13:28.000 And a thing I think about a lot that might drive a lot of radicalism think about how America's been historically.
00:13:34.000 It's been very decentralized.
00:13:36.000 So our capital historically has not been that big.
00:13:39.000 Washington, D.C. was not even one of our 10 largest cities for a long time.
00:13:44.000 And you had New York as big.
00:13:45.000 But compare New York's size to how big the country is overall, it's surprisingly small.
00:13:49.000 Compared to, say, like Tokyo.
00:13:50.000 Tokyo is a bigger city than New York in a country that's one third the size of ours.
00:13:54.000 London has almost as many people as New York, and Britain only has 60 million people, not 300 million.
00:13:59.000 So you have New York, you have LA, you have Houston, you have Seattle.
00:14:02.000 We have widely distributed cities, lots of there's like a lot of room to be elite in America historically.
00:14:08.000 And what have we seen?
00:14:09.000 We've seen centralization.
00:14:10.000 More jobs are in just a few cities.
00:14:12.000 Now everyone moves to New York, to Austin, to the Bay Area, to DC.
00:14:17.000 And there's not as many jobs, there's not as much ability to be an elite in America.
00:14:22.000 Plus, you have the internet, which is making it easier for you to feel like you're behind because someone you see on the internet is getting ahead of you. 0.70
00:14:31.000 All social anxiety for young women is based on comparing themselves to other women. 0.69
00:14:34.000 Exactly. 0.85
00:14:35.000 So now instead of comparing yourself to your neighbor, you're comparing yourself to the planet.
00:14:39.000 You're comparing yourself to everyone on the internet.
00:14:42.000 It's so much easier to feel frustrated and let down.
00:14:45.000 It's so much easier to feel I should have more in my life and I don't have it.
00:14:50.000 And those sorts of disappointments and resentments are the kernel.
00:14:54.000 That can build a lot of radical political movements.
00:14:57.000 Yes.
00:14:58.000 So when we think about who is supporting this movement, the rise of the DSA, it is twofold.
00:15:04.000 It's the rise of the, it's the resentment of the lower elites, the white, typically educated lower elites that are smart enough to work the system and smart enough to have very complicated resentment structures. 0.65
00:15:16.000 And think of another type that you're getting people who are, think about like El Said types, a lot of immigrants. 0.97
00:15:22.000 Well, that's the other group. 0.95
00:15:23.000 The other group is the immigrants, the children of immigrants. 0.83
00:15:26.000 El Said is a guy that.
00:15:28.000 Yes, he was, again, born in America, this pesky birthright citizenship that President Trump, by the way, is trying once again to get rid of.
00:15:36.000 But he was raised in many ways in Egypt.
00:15:39.000 He spent his summers, he was summering in Egypt.
00:15:42.000 And it's super common for these guys.
00:15:44.000 Their parents might have been far more elite in their home country than they are in America.
00:15:49.000 Lots of room to have resentment about that.
00:15:51.000 Resentment that you're in this other country rather than running your homeland.
00:15:55.000 There are so many ways to build up a giant ball of anger and resentment and then say, well, actually, I'm angry because the system is rigged against me.
00:16:03.000 And this is the bifurcated American body politic.
00:16:09.000 The conservative movement embraces free markets, property ownership, the rule of law, equality before the law, and liberty.
00:16:19.000 The radical left embraces the Bolshevik spirit, the French revolutionary spirit of equity, equality, of murderousness, of seizing the means of production,
00:16:33.000 taking from you if they don't think you're doing it right. 0.96
00:16:37.000 And that ultimately is being powered by the lower elites, the highly educated, not so accomplished, resentful elites, and then powered by a mountain of new immigrants and their children that we brought in because I don't know why. 0.99
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00:18:24.000 Todd Nettleton with the Voice of the Martyrs, host of the Voice of the Martyrs radio for 20 years, has traveled the world, interviewed hundreds and hundreds of Christians who've been persecuted in the name of Jesus.
00:18:37.000 Now he's inviting you to come along and meet bold believers whose faith will inspire you to a deeper walk with Christ.
00:18:42.000 So, you get this.
00:18:43.000 This is grab your passport and come along on a 40 day journey.
00:18:47.000 And if you're curious what I'm reading, this is his book, When Faith is Forbidden 40 Days on the Front Lines with Persecuted Christians.
00:18:56.000 It says, We'll meet brothers and sisters who refuse to deny Christ despite being beaten, imprisoned, or even killed for their faith.
00:19:06.000 When faith is forbidden, we'll introduce you to a Chinese Christian woman who called six months in prison a wonderful time.
00:19:14.000 We'll go through armed checkpoints to meet an Iraqi pastor praising God just eight days after an assassin's bullet ripped through his flesh.
00:19:22.000 And we'll sit down for a cup of tea with others from our Christian family in Iran, Eritrea, Turkey, Jordan, and other nations.
00:19:29.000 Each stop on this 40 day journey will provide inspiration and encouragement through the story of a persecuted believer.
00:19:35.000 You'll also find space for reflection and suggested prayers as you grow to understand the realities of living under persecution.
00:19:44.000 Beautiful, beautiful book.
00:19:46.000 Obviously, this is really important to us because I believe Charlie was a Christian martyr and I believe he's a modern day founding father.
00:19:54.000 I believe that any sort of praise for the life that he lived and we got to see it behind the scenes is warranted.
00:20:00.000 He was a man of incredible integrity and awesome, powerful, courageous faith.
00:20:06.000 And so I have told the team that I want one of the things that we constantly bring up on this show to be paying attention to Christians, whether it's in Nigeria.
00:20:17.000 Whether it's in Iran, which we're going to talk about with Todd once we get the tech issue worked out, that we focus on their stories because that is one of our mandates as Christians to remember the persecuted church.
00:20:29.000 And so I hope that once we get him on, we are going to be able to inspire you to continue thinking about these things, to continue praying for your brothers and sisters around the world that are living their faith boldly and loudly despite incredible, incredible persecution.
00:20:46.000 We went through COVID.
00:20:47.000 We saw sort of the first intimations of what anti Christian repression in the U.S. could look like, which is for health reasons, you can't assemble with other believers.
00:20:56.000 We saw the Biden administration start sending these FBI guys to. 0.90
00:21:00.000 Lurk in Catholic masses because that's a sinister thing.
00:21:02.000 And that was all bad, very bad, and un American. 0.98
00:21:06.000 Yet at the same time, we should remember we have it very easy in the United States compared to a lot of places. 0.83
00:21:12.000 There are a lot of countries and a lot of Islamic countries converting to Christianity legally in the statute book carries the death penalty.
00:21:19.000 In a lot of countries, if it is rumored that you are a Christian or that you are sympathetic to Christians, whatever the law says, you can face mob violence.
00:21:28.000 You can face vigilante justice from people. 0.54
00:21:31.000 That is the reality in huge chunks of Pakistan. 0.87
00:21:34.000 A lot of Iran, a lot, certainly a lot of Africa, you can be kidnapped, you can be enslaved, you can be tortured because you are a Christian. 1.00
00:21:43.000 Yeah, well, and the other aspect of this is that we're importing this into our country. 0.99
00:21:49.000 While we're waiting for Todd and the tech, this is Ro Khanna talking about how great El Sayed is. 1.00
00:21:55.000 Don't worry about the fact he's a Muslim.
00:21:57.000 Think about how American it is that this Muslim boy could rise up. 0.95
00:22:01.000 Oh, okay. 1.00
00:22:02.000 Sot 6. 0.99
00:22:03.000 Now, when it comes to Muslim America, shouldn't we, Chris, be celebrating? 1.00
00:22:07.000 Put aside.
00:22:08.000 Abdul's politics.
00:22:10.000 Where else can you have a son of immigrants, a Muslim American, Abdul, and you have Michigan electing him in a primary?
00:22:19.000 That should say, wow, America is extraordinary that we're overcoming barriers of race and religion, and that this country, unlike a lot of other countries, you can be of different backgrounds and the people will still give you a chance. 0.92
00:22:32.000 You know, don't, and you know, the demonization of him attacking him on that is about the dumbest political strategy.
00:22:40.000 I couldn't disagree with Rokhana more, but it doesn't surprise me because that's Rokhana. 0.99
00:22:46.000 Islam coming into the country is a terrible development because it is incompatible with Western values, with Christendom. 1.00
00:22:54.000 And we are inheritors of the Western tradition, which is Christendom. 1.00
00:22:58.000 And so when we bring this Trojan horse in, they've told us what they plan to do.
00:23:03.000 And we talked about this with Nate Friedman yesterday. 0.77
00:23:05.000 Sure.
00:23:05.000 One, two, three, four, five.
00:23:07.000 To increase their power until they can overcome our civic.
00:23:14.000 Secular system.
00:23:15.000 We have them. 0.64
00:23:15.000 We have them. 0.64
00:23:16.000 Todd, welcome to the show.
00:23:17.000 Todd Nettleton, Voice of the Martyrs, and your amazing new book, When Faith is Forbidden.
00:23:22.000 Thank you for joining us.
00:23:23.000 I'm so excited to have you.
00:23:25.000 And maybe just start with your book, why you wrote it, and what people need to know about it.
00:23:35.000 Well, I've had the privilege for the last 28 years of serving at Voice of the Martyrs and traveling all over the world to sit down with persecuted Christians and hear their stories and ask them questions.
00:23:45.000 And Inevitably, when I get back, I begin to share some of those stories, and I'll have somebody in my Sunday school class or in my Bible study group who says, Hey, I want to go on a trip with you.
00:23:55.000 Can I come?
00:23:56.000 And that I can't always take people to some of the places where Voice of the Martyrs is working, but you can come through the pages of this book.
00:24:04.000 And so, what I've done here is collected 40 of the most powerful stories that I've heard from persecuted Christians.
00:24:11.000 And the book is written sort of as a travelogue.
00:24:13.000 Hey, why don't you come with me?
00:24:15.000 We're going to go on a 40 day journey together, and every day we're going to sit down with a persecuted Christian, we're going to hear their story of faithfulness under trial and suffering.
00:24:24.000 And my promise to you is when we get back from this trip on day 41, your faith is going to look different because when you hang out with persecuted Christians, when you hear their stories, you can't help but be inspired.
00:24:37.000 I love that.
00:24:38.000 And, you know, this all makes me think about Iran because it's in the news, right?
00:24:43.000 People don't realize this.
00:24:44.000 There are Christians in Iran.
00:24:46.000 And I'm curious, like, what, you know, how has this war affected them?
00:24:52.000 You know, everybody in Iran right now is suffering because the economy is completely in shambles.
00:24:58.000 You know, maybe you're an electrician, but you can't get wire, you can't get supplies.
00:25:03.000 So, what do you do?
00:25:03.000 How do you go to work?
00:25:05.000 That is affecting Christians as well.
00:25:08.000 But they are choosing to tune this into an opportunity to be a witness.
00:25:12.000 And one of the things that happens during wartime when people are dying around you, people are thinking about eternity.
00:25:19.000 And so, Christians are using this as an opportunity to say, hey, let's talk about eternity. 0.88
00:25:24.000 Let's talk about how you can know where you're going to go after you die. 0.92
00:25:28.000 So, even in the midst of the suffering that's happening, they're using it as an opportunity to keep growing the church. 0.79
00:25:36.000 So, we know about the IRGC.
00:25:39.000 That's a military force we're engaging in war with, but obviously it's associated with the Islamic Revolution.
00:25:45.000 So, Christians in Iran, do they face persecution by the IRGC, by these state or parastate elements?
00:25:54.000 Like, what happens to them?
00:25:55.000 What sort of violence or other threats do they have to worry about?
00:25:59.000 Well, Christians are targeted.
00:26:01.000 And, you know, it's interesting.
00:26:03.000 The perception in Iran of America is America is a Christian nation.
00:26:08.000 And so, you know, whatever happens in America, that's what Christians do because it's a Christian nation.
00:26:13.000 So, if you're in Iran and you're an Iranian Christian, you are kind of seen as a traitor to your own country.
00:26:20.000 You're seen as an ally to America.
00:26:22.000 So, as the war has started and as the fighting has gone on, Iranian Christians are seen as being sympathetic at best and traitors at worst.
00:26:34.000 To the enemy, to the people who are attacking.
00:26:36.000 And so they are being singled out.
00:26:39.000 We know of Christians who have been arrested.
00:26:40.000 We know of Christians who have been interrogated, taken to jail, even beaten, even tortured during this time because they are seen as allies of America, allies of Israel, as opposed to being loyal citizens of Iran. 0.73
00:26:57.000 You know, I know one of the things that you guys do, we've only got 40 seconds in this segment, but you send Bibles all over the world. 0.65
00:27:04.000 You know, really, really rough spots. 0.95
00:27:07.000 And I know that you've sent some to Iran. 0.78
00:27:10.000 If they find like a Christian Bible on you, on your person, in your home, do they face consequences for that? 0.78
00:27:16.000 Yeah, having a Bible in the language, in Farsi, the national language of Iran, is illegal. 0.97
00:27:21.000 So you've broken the law by having that Bible.
00:27:24.000 I just heard a story this week from one of our partners helping deliver Bibles into Iran. 0.97
00:27:30.000 One of their workers just came out of 58 days incarcerated.
00:27:34.000 Because they found him with Farsi Bibles. 0.98
00:27:36.000 And in their minds, that meant, hey, he's a traitor. 0.84
00:27:39.000 He's connected to America. 0.69
00:27:41.000 He's connected to outsiders.
00:27:42.000 He said every single day they interrogated him.
00:27:45.000 They beat him severely.
00:27:47.000 In fact, they beat him on the bottoms of his feet, which for those of us at Voice of the Martyrs, harkens back to our founder, Richard Wormbrand, also beaten on the bottoms of his feet by the communists in Romania.
00:27:58.000 But this man said he never broke.
00:28:01.000 He never gave up the names of any other Christians, any of the people he was working with.
00:28:05.000 The other thing he said is, I am closer to Jesus now than I've ever been.
00:28:09.000 That suffering experience pushed him closer to Christ.
00:28:15.000 Man, I have a friend who's actually been on this show before that experienced similar things.
00:28:20.000 He's actually working to get Starlinks into Iran so that they can access internet and things like that.
00:28:27.000 But he was beaten in Pakistan for training up missionaries in Pakistan. 0.58
00:28:34.000 So stay right there, Todd.
00:28:37.000 I hope this is encouraging you, even as terrible as it is, that there are people willing to stand on their faith in the most trying and terrible situations.
00:28:46.000 Todd, this is a.
00:28:48.000 So we kind of went through some bad stuff in the first part of our interview, but.
00:28:53.000 This is so often, you know, we hear that expression that the blood of the martyrs is the seed of the church.
00:29:01.000 Is this true that Iran has the fastest growing Christian church in the world right now?
00:29:05.000 Is that possible? 0.99
00:29:07.000 It is true.
00:29:08.000 And that has been the case for the last several years the fastest growing church in the Islamic Republic of Iran.
00:29:15.000 I like to say the full name of the country when I say that.
00:29:18.000 And, you know, one of the interesting things about that is well, the natural question well, what's driving that?
00:29:24.000 What is driving that is the Islamic government of Iran because since 1979, the Islamic Revolution, the mullahs took over the government and their promise to the Iranian people was we are going to run our country according to Islamic principles.
00:29:40.000 If the Quran tells us to do it, that's exactly what we're going to do.
00:29:44.000 And we're now, you know, 40 plus years later and the economy's in shambles. 0.79
00:29:50.000 Iran has one of the highest drug addiction rates in the world. 0.95
00:29:53.000 The people see the corruption in the government and they say, well, if If this is what it looks like after you follow Islamic principles, we don't want to follow Islamic principles.
00:30:02.000 We want to do something different. 0.98
00:30:04.000 And so that's part of the reason the gospel is spreading so quickly.
00:30:08.000 The church is growing.
00:30:09.000 I've actually had Iranian Christians tell me the greatest Christian missionary in the history of Iran was the Ayatollah Khomeini, the leader of the Islamic revolution.
00:30:17.000 And you're like, well, wait a minute.
00:30:18.000 He wasn't even a Christian.
00:30:20.000 But they say, yeah, but he showed the true face of Islam. 0.69
00:30:23.000 And now the people want something different.
00:30:26.000 That's wild.
00:30:27.000 Um, that I mean, first, the fact that it's the fastest growing Christian church, I'm assuming per capita, but I don't know, maybe raw numbers.
00:30:35.000 I wonder about that.
00:30:35.000 Just how do you measure this?
00:30:38.000 Are there reliable ways we can see this in practice?
00:30:42.000 Like, how do we reach that conclusion?
00:30:45.000 Because it's a closed country, of course.
00:30:47.000 It is a closed country, and so it is difficult.
00:30:49.000 And many of these Christians are isolated, they are getting the gospel through social media, they're getting the gospel through satellite television.
00:30:57.000 They're not. 0.90
00:30:58.000 Necessarily gathering with other believers.
00:31:01.000 But several years ago, I believe it was a Dutch company that actually did a survey, a very broad survey of the Iranian population.
00:31:09.000 And they came up with some of these numbers that are, like you say, they're startling how much the church has grown, how many Iranians say that they're Christians now.
00:31:18.000 One of the other things that that is meaning inside Iran is so many people are disaffected with Islam that oftentimes if a person comes to faith, They don't necessarily face the first line of persecution from their family, 0.68
00:31:33.000 which is typical in the Muslim world. 0.95
00:31:35.000 Your first line of persecution is going to be your dad, your big brother, somebody who comes and says, Hey, we're a Muslim family. 1.00
00:31:42.000 If you say you're not a Muslim, you're not part of us anymore.
00:31:45.000 In Iran, so many people have rejected Islam and so many people are dissatisfied with Islam that oftentimes the family will be like, Oh, well, hey, if that works for you, great, that's fine. 0.98
00:31:56.000 So you don't have that family person.
00:31:58.000 Now, that's not always true.
00:31:59.000 There are certainly stories of family persecution.
00:32:02.000 But it is not as prevalent in Iran as it is in other parts of the Muslim world.
00:32:06.000 Yeah, well, so that's, I mean, the personal stories are really powerful.
00:32:09.000 You have some of these in your book here of Iranian Christians.
00:32:15.000 You know, what are they like?
00:32:16.000 What are they telling you?
00:32:17.000 What did you learn from them?
00:32:20.000 You know, one of the things that they are is they are bold and they have grabbed a hold of Christ in such a real way that they cannot be talked out of it.
00:32:31.000 You cannot beat him out of them.
00:32:33.000 They are going to follow Jesus.
00:32:35.000 They've experienced him.
00:32:36.000 And one of the stories I tell in my book is the story of a man who he said, as he started to tell me his story, he said, Now I want you to understand I'm a very competitive person.
00:32:45.000 I said, Okay, well, you know, that's fine.
00:32:46.000 And he said, No, no, no, I'm very competitive.
00:32:49.000 He said, You know, when I was in the army, I wanted to be a martyr for Allah within the next 24 hours.
00:32:55.000 I wanted to be a martyr.
00:32:56.000 He said, When I was a drug addict, I wanted to use more drugs than any of the other drug addicts were using because I wanted to be the best drug addict.
00:33:05.000 And he said, You know, that addiction took him literally to the point of death and God rescued him.
00:33:11.000 He had a miraculous, supernatural experience where he met Jesus Christ.
00:33:16.000 Jesus Christ took away that addiction and healed him from that addiction.
00:33:20.000 And then that competitive nature turned in a different direction because now he wants to be the best disciple that Jesus has ever had.
00:33:27.000 And he wants to be the best evangelist.
00:33:29.000 He wants to talk to every single person he meets about Jesus Christ.
00:33:33.000 And, you know, I tell in the book, if you do that inside Iran, pretty soon you're going to be in a police station or you're going to be in a jail cell.
00:33:40.000 And he even shared a story of leading someone to Christ inside the police station.
00:33:44.000 And so he is determined to be the best disciple that Jesus has ever had.
00:33:49.000 That's so great.
00:33:50.000 And I heard some similar stories from Pakistan.
00:33:54.000 Especially when Charlie was assassinated.
00:33:57.000 I mean, do you think that the Iranian Christians, did they hear about this? 1.00
00:34:01.000 I know it's a close.
00:34:01.000 I'm assuming they heard.
00:34:02.000 It seems like everybody on planet Earth did.
00:34:03.000 But did you hear any of that?
00:34:06.000 Were they inspired by his life in that way?
00:34:09.000 You know, I haven't heard stories like that. 0.78
00:34:12.000 And I don't know how much, you know, there would be some Iranians that would certainly be in tune with international news.
00:34:17.000 There would be some that were completely cut off.
00:34:19.000 But I haven't heard those stories yet.
00:34:22.000 Well, I would love for you to ask about them because my pastor friend was training missionaries in.
00:34:27.000 Pakistan said they were like bold as lions right after Charlie was killed.
00:34:33.000 And I hope that people in this audience and that loved Charlie and that followed the show, that followed Turning Point, that you would have a special place in your heart for martyrs and supporting Voice of the Martyrs and what they're doing.
00:34:46.000 And we wanted to make it
00:34:49.000 an option so people could get your book, Todd.
00:34:52.000 So if you go to VOM, Voice of the Martyrs, VOM.org slash Charlie, you guys are making this available for everybody.
00:35:01.000 Yeah.
00:35:02.000 We will send it to you for free.
00:35:04.000 Just give us your name and address.
00:35:05.000 Part of our ministry is telling these stories to Christians in free nations, and that's why we give the book away for free.
00:35:12.000 I love that.
00:35:13.000 So, again, the URL is vom.orgslash Charlie.
00:35:18.000 VOM.orgslash Charlie.
00:35:21.000 Get this book.
00:35:23.000 Please, you know, we ask a lot of our audience, you know, call this senator, call this congressman, you know, knock on doors, but please give your heart.
00:35:33.000 To the Christian church, the persecuted church, the martyrs around the world, and support the work of Voice of the Martyrs.
00:35:39.000 They're great people.
00:35:39.000 Thank you, Todd.
00:35:40.000 VOM.org/Charlie.
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00:36:49.000 It's hour two on a Friday, which means it is the Ask Us Anything hour.
00:36:53.000 We love this hour.
00:36:54.000 We got Danny.
00:36:55.000 Danny's in the house.
00:36:56.000 Yep, happy to be on.
00:36:57.000 Hands back.
00:36:58.000 Danny, you know, your Cubs swept my Dodgers.
00:37:03.000 It was pretty great.
00:37:04.000 We've got a great MVP fight between Pete Crow Armstrong and Shohei Otani.
00:37:08.000 Pete Crow should win it.
00:37:09.000 We each had two home runs in the same game.
00:37:11.000 Yeah, it was frustrating.
00:37:13.000 We got that scooball guy, and we just went on this.
00:37:16.000 Six game skit.
00:37:17.000 That's what I'm saying.
00:37:18.000 Baseball's crazy.
00:37:19.000 You could have the biggest budget in all of baseball and not win the World Series.
00:37:22.000 Look at the Mets.
00:37:24.000 Yeah?
00:37:24.000 Look at the Mets.
00:37:25.000 That's true. 0.94
00:37:25.000 The Mets are god awful. 0.94
00:37:27.000 A lot of people, they are a team.
00:37:29.000 The Milwaukee Brewers have one of the lowest payrolls in baseball and are one of the best teams.
00:37:33.000 Look at Tampa Bay.
00:37:36.000 Another reason why salary cap is ridiculous because it really doesn't, I mean, it can help you be better, but you should not institute a salary cap in baseball, it would ruin the game.
00:37:45.000 You know what it is?
00:37:46.000 This is not what we.
00:37:47.000 Planned on talking about here, but we just went off the rail.
00:37:51.000 Who cares?
00:37:51.000 You need a villain in baseball.
00:37:53.000 You need, like, everybody loves rooting against the Dodgers and the Yankees.
00:37:58.000 You're right.
00:37:58.000 I do.
00:37:59.000 Yeah.
00:37:59.000 It's great.
00:38:00.000 No, and I embrace it.
00:38:01.000 You should root against us because we're good and we spend a lot of money to be good. 0.76
00:38:05.000 Well, and none of your team is even American, too. 0.67
00:38:07.000 That's not true. 0.73
00:38:09.000 I mean, that is.
00:38:10.000 Yeah, basically.
00:38:10.000 Kyle Tucker's your only really American player.
00:38:13.000 But Freddie Freeman, but that's about it.
00:38:15.000 I mean, everybody else you just get from Japan and all the other countries.
00:38:19.000 Mookie Betts is American.
00:38:21.000 What is your problem?
00:38:21.000 What do you mean?
00:38:22.000 I just hate the Dodgers, clearly.
00:38:24.000 Yeah, apparently.
00:38:25.000 So you lie about them.
00:38:26.000 Jeez, that's not cool.
00:38:27.000 All right, hold on.
00:38:28.000 So, our first question we have a great question here.
00:38:32.000 It's about the birthright citizenship, yeah?
00:38:35.000 Oh, yes, yes.
00:38:36.000 Don.
00:38:38.000 Hi, guys.
00:38:39.000 I saw where President Trump is trying to get birthright citizenship banned again.
00:38:46.000 I was wondering if he has the chance this time. 0.88
00:38:48.000 All right, I was looking forward.
00:38:50.000 I was wondering if we would talk about this earlier in the show, and we didn't get a chance.
00:38:53.000 So, I'm so glad you asked this question.
00:38:55.000 So, this Dropped yesterday, I believe, from the Trump administration.
00:38:58.000 This is them trying to respond to, deal with the unfortunate Supreme Court ruling.
00:39:02.000 Which was wrong.
00:39:03.000 Which was wrong.
00:39:03.000 But birthright citizenship is a constitutional right.
00:39:06.000 But they're trying to work with what we have, which is, for example, if you are a foreign invader, you are not supposed to benefit from this.
00:39:14.000 You know, invading foreign armies is a traditional exception, and foreign ambassadors is a traditional exception.
00:39:20.000 So they're trying to work within the Supreme Court's ruling to get whatever give they can.
00:39:27.000 And so what we have here is.
00:39:28.000 Is they had four categories that they say, even after this ruling, they think they can still ban them.
00:39:32.000 So, first, they say if either parent is an alien enemy, and they define this as any member of a designated foreign terrorist organization.
00:39:41.000 And so, obviously, that classically means, say, Al Qaeda was an alien terrorist organization.
00:39:47.000 But for example, if you're a member of, I believe, Hezbollah, we recognize that a lot of people are members of Hezbollah, Hamas, a lot of people are affiliated with Hamas, Muslim Brotherhood, we have a lot of foreign terrorist organizations, and the cartels.
00:39:58.000 If you're working with a cartel, we've designated those.
00:40:01.000 So, if you've worked with them, They're going to try to classify you as an enemy alien and they'll look for those connections there.
00:40:06.000 So that's one of the things they're going after.
00:40:09.000 They're also saying if you are a foreign government employee, which obviously means foreign ambassadors, but if you're a foreign national who works at their embassy, they're going to classify you as that.
00:40:19.000 They also say if you're part of an international organization that has foreign organization immunities.
00:40:25.000 So I think that's like employees of the United Nations, for example, who are from abroad have certain special privileges.
00:40:31.000 NGOs that link up with the government.
00:40:33.000 Exactly.
00:40:33.000 Stuff like that.
00:40:34.000 And then they also throw in if you're taking part in birth tourism scams, as they define them.
00:40:40.000 So if you're sailing into U.S. territorial waters to give birth, They're trying to classify that as an invasion.
00:40:45.000 Mariana Island.
00:40:46.000 So, will this hold up? 1.00
00:40:47.000 I'm pretty optimistic on the foreign terrorist one. 1.00
00:40:49.000 I think they have good grounds to stand on. 0.99
00:40:51.000 I think our Supreme Court might rule in their favor on that one.
00:40:54.000 I'm worried about the birth tourism one.
00:40:55.000 I think it's so easy to imagine John Roberts punting on that and going, well, that's actually Congress's job to decide that.
00:41:03.000 So, here's what I think happened I think Alito or Clarence Thomas or maybe some of their clerks went in and said, hey, craft it like this.
00:41:15.000 We were inside the.
00:41:17.000 Deliberations and you should craft it like this because this will probably pass muster.
00:41:21.000 So, I actually am very optimistic about it.
00:41:23.000 I'm also really excited you asked this question because there's this viral clip going around of a 75 year old John Gannon.
00:41:31.000 He's a lifelong Republican.
00:41:33.000 He voted for President Trump, but unfortunately for him, his Latin lover got picked up by ice and now he's real upset about it. 0.69
00:41:41.000 And I just wanted an excuse to play it. 0.81
00:41:42.000 Sat Ted.
00:41:44.000 I voted for Trump.
00:41:45.000 I am saying that they are.
00:41:48.000 Picking up law-abiding citizens.
00:41:50.000 They're destroying families, jobs.
00:41:54.000 John Gannon is a 75-year-old businessman and lifelong Republican who supported President Trump in 2024.
00:42:01.000 I wouldn't do that again, not after this fiasco.
00:42:04.000 His fiance, 45-year-old Venezuelan immigrant Yasmin Suarez Regis, was detained by ICE at George Bush Intercontinental Airport in Houston in late July.
00:42:16.000 By the way, she's not.
00:42:17.000 He owes Trump a thank you.
00:42:19.000 I almost owe more than that.
00:42:21.000 Like 75. 0.86
00:42:21.000 45 year old visa overstay ride. 0.86
00:42:25.000 That's what it was.
00:42:26.000 That's what the post said.
00:42:27.000 Yeah.
00:42:27.000 Well, who knows how old it is.
00:42:29.000 I guarantee the producers were like, let's say she's 45, not 30, because we're going to get more sympathy if she's 45.
00:42:37.000 No, this guy just about fell into one of the classic traps the gold digger trap.
00:42:44.000 I'm not saying that she's a gold digger.
00:42:46.000 I am.
00:42:47.000 Yeah.
00:42:47.000 But she ain't messing with a broke guy here.
00:42:50.000 Let's just keep it like that.
00:42:51.000 All I'm saying is, instead of being like, I'm not going to vote for Republicans anymore, maybe you should say thank you.
00:42:58.000 Thank you.
00:42:58.000 I bet if this guy has kids, they are saying thank you.
00:43:01.000 Yeah, he owes Trump a big thank you on this.
00:43:03.000 Those kids are going to vote for him.
00:43:04.000 They owe him a big thank you.
00:43:05.000 Let's hope he has like five children from his first wife or second wife. 0.94
00:43:10.000 And they are all thanking the good Lord in heaven that there is a thing called ICE and it picks up illegals and it gets them the heck out of this country. 0.86
00:43:19.000 And the other thing we have to correct, we have to correct air here. 0.85
00:43:22.000 One of our jobs is to correct air.
00:43:25.000 This guy is so self absorbed and probably, I mean, I hate to use the word, but you know, I'll try.
00:43:32.000 He's driven by his libido or whatever, okay?
00:43:40.000 That he can't see the forest through the trees.
00:43:42.000 He cannot realize that he has been hoodwinked by a woman that wants his money.
00:43:48.000 And he now is saying he doesn't support.
00:43:51.000 This is, okay, I got in trouble on X last night because I commented on this and I said this is a generational divide.
00:43:56.000 And then, You know, quickly, a lot of people over a certain age said, Hey, don't count me in on that.
00:44:00.000 I'm not counting you.
00:44:01.000 People in this audience, you are absolutely immune from this.
00:44:04.000 But when we say we want them all out, we want them all out. 0.98
00:44:10.000 I don't care if you have a Latin lover. 1.00
00:44:12.000 I don't care if you got a maid or something that you think is really sweet. 1.00
00:44:16.000 They are not law abiding. 0.62
00:44:19.000 He says she's law abiding. 1.00
00:44:21.000 No, she broke the law. 1.00
00:44:23.000 She's a visa overstay. 1.00
00:44:24.000 She broke the law. 0.98
00:44:27.000 So why don't you go move to Venezuela and you can marry her there?
00:44:32.000 You have options, sir.
00:44:34.000 John Gannon, you can move to Venezuela.
00:44:37.000 It might become the 51st state if President Trump has anything to do with it.
00:44:40.000 So you could still say you're American.
00:44:43.000 Yes, she should say she's American.
00:44:44.000 I have zero sympathy for these people. 1.00
00:44:47.000 Blake, 30 seconds.
00:44:49.000 Say something profound.
00:44:52.000 Something profound.
00:44:53.000 No, we see this from time to time.
00:44:56.000 Guys, in the end, our country has been stripped bare because everyone wants their special exception. 1.00
00:45:02.000 Yeah, I don't like immigration, but I need these lower income workers. 1.00
00:45:06.000 I can't fill these jobs. 1.00
00:45:08.000 I can't get a woman who's interested in me who's 30 years or more younger than I am. 0.98
00:45:13.000 No, just guys, our country's been picked clean by the world.
00:45:17.000 We have rules. 0.70
00:45:17.000 We need to close it off, and the people who aren't supposed to be here need to go back. 0.70
00:45:21.000 We have rules, and everybody wants to say the rules don't apply to me. 0.82
00:45:25.000 You are a symptom of the disease, sir.
00:45:27.000 All right, next question. 0.92
00:45:28.000 Who do we got?
00:45:29.000 We have Jonathan.
00:45:30.000 Jonathan, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:45:32.000 Please unmute yourself.
00:45:34.000 I did.
00:45:35.000 How goes?
00:45:36.000 It's going well.
00:45:37.000 It's Friday.
00:45:39.000 Good to hear.
00:45:40.000 How are you doing?
00:45:41.000 What can we do for you?
00:45:43.000 Can we expect the Save America Act to pass before November?
00:45:46.000 And will the Supreme Court make mass mail and ballots and counting after Election Day illegal before November?
00:45:53.000 What was the second part of that?
00:45:54.000 Sorry.
00:45:54.000 Will the Supreme Court make mass mail and ballots illegal before November?
00:45:58.000 And counting after Election Day illegal before November?
00:46:01.000 Oh, well, they unfortunately already ruled on that counting.
00:46:04.000 He was counting them after Election Day.
00:46:05.000 We got that ruling, and it was disappointing.
00:46:08.000 Was it like five days after or something?
00:46:10.000 It was after the birth of the Supreme Court.
00:46:12.000 It was an arbitrary date.
00:46:14.000 Oh, yeah.
00:46:14.000 Yeah.
00:46:15.000 It was like, yeah, I think it was some number of days more than zero, but less than 40 or whatever California has been getting away with.
00:46:22.000 I would have to double check it, though.
00:46:23.000 Yeah.
00:46:24.000 Why don't you check that?
00:46:25.000 So I actually have been texting with my senator friends.
00:46:30.000 I have one senator tell me 50% chance, and another one tell me 25% chance likely.
00:46:36.000 And the likely is so they're going to come back from their August recess, which is really like a six month or six week recess.
00:46:43.000 And they're going to come back and they're going to basically work for two weeks and then they're going to take another break because the Senate is a joke.
00:46:50.000 And they're going to try and pass it through reconciliation.
00:46:54.000 And then they're going to have an issue with the birdbath, right?
00:46:57.000 Which is the Senate parliamentarian.
00:46:58.000 Can it get through the Senate rules?
00:47:01.000 In order to be a part of reconciliation, it needs to have a budgetary component to it, right?
00:47:06.000 So it needs to be tied with some sort of spending.
00:47:09.000 And their gimmick to do this is the real ID.
00:47:14.000 So, they are willing to grant billions of dollars to the states to support Real ID, which has already been passed.
00:47:21.000 And they would be willing to accept a Real ID, which takes, I mean, it's like a birth certificate.
00:47:25.000 You have to have more documentation in order to get a Real ID.
00:47:30.000 But that obviously costs the states money to issue those IDs.
00:47:33.000 So, that's kind of the gimmick.
00:47:34.000 The question is will it pass the Senate parliamentarian muster?
00:47:39.000 Now, this is a Democrat, I believe, that was appointed under Harry Reid.
00:47:44.000 There is precedent, Trent Lott did it.
00:47:46.000 You can fire the Senate parliamentarian.
00:47:48.000 Do I have any hope of John Thune firing a Senate parliamentarian if she blocks this through reconciliation?
00:47:56.000 No, I do not.
00:47:58.000 So I would put that likelihood closer to 25%.
00:48:02.000 The 25% is that they write it in such a way they're careful enough that the Senate parliamentarian can't, in any good faith, block
00:48:12.000 the passage of this through reconciliation.
00:48:14.000 I just don't have any faith in John Thune.
00:48:16.000 I've openly called for him to be replaced. 0.99
00:48:19.000 I think he is a coward.
00:48:20.000 I think he is not willing to confront his wayward members, and he's not willing to push them to do the will of the people. 0.96
00:48:27.000 So I have zero faith in John Thune, and I think he's been a complete and utter disappointment.
00:48:33.000 Why don't you just call the vote and make them put their names on the line?
00:48:37.000 Tell us who is against it.
00:48:40.000 That's it.
00:48:41.000 That's all you got to do.
00:48:44.000 And then I'm sorry, another question about what about mass mail and ballots?
00:48:47.000 Will they make that illegal before you remember?
00:48:50.000 Well, so mass mail, so they did rule this was Watson versus RNC.
00:48:53.000 It happened at the end of June.
00:48:55.000 And unfortunately, they did just rule that if a ballot is postmarked by Election Day, states are allowed to count them after.
00:49:03.000 It's like up to five days after or something.
00:49:05.000 I don't see in the summary, I'm seeing that they don't say a specific day.
00:49:08.000 No, they don't say a day.
00:49:09.000 They just say up and if as long as it was postmarked, like Illinois allows ballots up to 14 days.
00:49:15.000 Illinois allows 14 days after the election for ballots to come in.
00:49:19.000 If they're postmarked.
00:49:20.000 If they're postmarked. 0.95
00:49:21.000 I mean, that's ridiculous.
00:49:23.000 Anyway, so unfortunately, that's not going to happen either.
00:49:25.000 Okay?
00:49:26.000 So our glorious Supreme Court, I should note they disappoint us a lot, but I will note because people flip out a lot, they are.
00:49:33.000 The most, we get the most wins from them out of any organization.
00:49:37.000 And they're still going to pack them.
00:49:39.000 I think part of the calculus with these guys is that they don't want to sort of be, they don't want to be perceived as too partisan.
00:49:44.000 So they're trying to give wins to both sides where they feel like they can.
00:49:48.000 It doesn't matter.
00:49:49.000 This is the eat me last mentality.
00:49:51.000 This is what's happening to the Democrat establishment.
00:49:53.000 I talked about this in hour one. 1.00
00:49:54.000 They unleash all this garbage and they're going to be consumed by all this garbage. 0.99
00:50:00.000 So it doesn't matter. 0.99
00:50:01.000 These animal passions that get unleashed.
00:50:03.000 They will consume the institutions that undergird the constitutional republic upon which we stand.
00:50:11.000 So, anyways, the point is the Supreme Court, if these animals get enough power, they will completely pack the Supreme Court.
00:50:17.000 They want to abolish the Senate.
00:50:19.000 They want to abolish the presidency now.
00:50:21.000 Did you see this?
00:50:22.000 I did not see this one.
00:50:22.000 Yes, yes.
00:50:23.000 They're making the candidates, DSA candidates, vow that they will work to abolish.
00:50:29.000 I mean, you basically have to tear down the entire constitutional system.
00:50:32.000 Because that's the goal.
00:50:33.000 The Constitution itself would have to.
00:50:35.000 That is the goal.
00:50:35.000 The goal, I mean, so much of this, it is really just, it is burn it all down.
00:50:39.000 It is a pure animal passion.
00:50:41.000 And like, it's like a dog chasing a car.
00:50:42.000 They don't know what they would do after they got it.
00:50:46.000 You can find this.
00:50:46.000 There's actually a, I think it's called like Manifesto of a Revolutionary.
00:50:50.000 And it was a work by a Russian revolutionary way before the Bolsheviks, even, late 1800s.
00:50:54.000 And you read his thing, and he just says, the only thing that matters is the revolution.
00:50:57.000 And like, that's what you live for.
00:50:59.000 And it's not, he actually doesn't describe what the program is after the revolution.
00:51:02.000 The point is destroy.
00:51:03.000 The point is rip it all down.
00:51:05.000 It's a very animus, Anger based ideology.
00:51:09.000 Resentful.
00:51:09.000 It's resentful.
00:51:10.000 Resentful.
00:51:11.000 So I wish we had better news for you, but unfortunately, when you give a bunch of country club Republicans power, they want their Latin lovers and they want their vacations.
00:51:22.000 Sadly, that is the case.
00:51:24.000 And I have zero sympathy for any of them. 0.99
00:51:27.000 Cowards, one and all. 0.98
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00:52:32.000 We got John.
00:52:33.000 Hey, guys, how are you doing today?
00:52:35.000 We're doing lovely.
00:52:37.000 Good.
00:52:38.000 Hey, I hope you are having a blessed day.
00:52:40.000 So, I've got a question.
00:52:41.000 I'm going to give you two premises of the question, and it's about public education.
00:52:45.000 The first is public education, in my mind, is currently a monopoly since they get your money even if you don't send your kids to public schools.
00:52:54.000 Okay.
00:52:55.000 Secondly, the indoctrination and the failure of public schools is a common denominator that runs through pretty much every societal.
00:53:04.000 Ill that we have so many of the topics that you guys discussed, a lot of it can go back to public education.
00:53:10.000 So, you guys have had a lot of discussion about the education tax credits.
00:53:16.000 So, my question is, what is the mechanism within that tax credits to have a negative financial consequences to starve public schools and teachers' unions such that we can start making major reforms to public education?
00:53:33.000 Yeah, I've got a lot of thoughts, but did you want to go?
00:53:35.000 Well, so I guess when you say it's always People generally do like their public schools, whether they should or not.
00:53:42.000 They should not.
00:53:43.000 You don't necessarily want to use the rhetoric of, oh, starve them or whatever.
00:53:46.000 But what this is really about is it's about control, it's about choice.
00:53:50.000 Teachers' unions, historically, they love the idea of getting to shape your child's mind.
00:53:56.000 You can endlessly find them bragging about this online in their chats.
00:53:59.000 So, oh, their parents think that they control their kids, but I spend more time with their kids than they do.
00:54:03.000 They'll smugly talk about this.
00:54:05.000 These are my children.
00:54:06.000 Yeah.
00:54:06.000 And they steadily are getting more ideologically extreme, more entitled, more mentally unwell.
00:54:11.000 A lot of very Bad people seem to go into this field.
00:54:15.000 And the best case for these education tax credits is quite simple.
00:54:20.000 How you raise your child is your decision to make.
00:54:23.000 You should not be compelled to, as you say, to send them to a public school because that's the only option and you're forced to pay for it.
00:54:30.000 You should have the option to have your tax dollars and you should be able to spend them how you like, which might be private school, might be homeschooling materials, might be some sort of hybrid model, some sort of school startup.
00:54:44.000 America is great for that.
00:54:45.000 We have incredible entrepreneurship in the field of education.
00:54:49.000 And that is what people should have.
00:54:51.000 They should not be forced to go to one school that is failing them.
00:54:56.000 To answer your question in a more technical way, though, schools are paid on a per pupil basis.
00:55:02.000 Okay.
00:55:02.000 So, and I guess the average amount in the United States is about $17,619 per student spending.
00:55:11.000 Some of that comes from state, some of that comes from local government, some of it comes from federal funding.
00:55:16.000 So, when you pull enough students out of a public school, then their per pupil allotment goes down.
00:55:24.000 And if it goes down enough, then guess what?
00:55:26.000 They have to stop hiring.
00:55:27.000 They stop hiring teachers.
00:55:29.000 They stop doing this.
00:55:30.000 When you don't have as many teachers getting hired by public schools, the public school unions, the teachers' unions, will shrink in size.
00:55:39.000 Why is that important?
00:55:40.000 Because they are Democrat super PACs that work against conservative values.
00:55:44.000 They spend all their political money on Democrats because Democrats give them whatever they want.
00:55:49.000 You can't fire students.
00:55:50.000 Your teachers, you don't want them to snitch on somebody else if somebody else has been accused of sexual perversion against a minor.
00:55:59.000 This stuff is like, I mean, the crazy stuff that you see in these teachers' unions is insane, and they're getting publicly funded by you.
00:56:06.000 We are publicly paying these teachers to pay dues into the teachers' unions to then use that money as a super PAC for Democrats.
00:56:12.000 It's such a racket. 0.99
00:56:13.000 And peel them out of the public schools and break the back.
00:56:16.000 But Blake's point is politically right.
00:56:19.000 Parents deserve choice.
00:56:20.000 That should be our messaging.
00:56:22.000 But we should also have a fair amount of money.
00:56:23.000 And they do worry about that loss of funding, but I mean, they have so much political power in any Democrat state, they can end up having to bring themselves additional funding.
00:56:29.000 Yeah, you break it.
00:56:31.000 What they really feel here is, I think, the meta point, which is if a critical mass of people are opting in favor of private schools, homeschooling, using these vouchers essentially, that they realize, oh,
00:56:46.000 I can take this money and get something better and it's free or cheaper, they'll break the dependency.
00:56:51.000 They'll break the assumption that this is what people need.
00:56:55.000 And then people could really dial back the public education.
00:56:58.000 Well, in Arizona, and you made this point, they get the money anyway.
00:57:01.000 Not in Arizona, and I think Texas and Florida are the same now. 0.90
00:57:05.000 If you pull your child out of public schools and you put them in a Christian private school, guess what? 0.92
00:57:10.000 You get $7,500 allotted to that private school. 0.60
00:57:13.000 So you're actually taking money out of the public school system in the state of Arizona, which is why they want to defeat it and why we're fighting back against it in Arizona.
00:57:20.000 Let's get to the next question because I know we got a bunch piling up.
00:57:24.000 The next question we got is Elizabeth. 0.90
00:57:25.000 Elizabeth, welcome to the show. 0.99
00:57:27.000 Please unmute yourself.
00:57:28.000 Yeah.
00:57:29.000 Hi, are you able to hear me?
00:57:30.000 Yes.
00:57:31.000 Okay.
00:57:32.000 So I have a lot of concerns.
00:57:34.000 I'm older than you guys.
00:57:35.000 I'm Gen X.
00:57:37.000 My high school actually had a student exchange program with the Soviet Union.
00:57:43.000 We actually had kids in Moscow when Chernobyl happened.
00:57:47.000 They were collected up at like four in the morning from the KGB and put on a flight back to the United States.
00:57:54.000 Like, I could tell you horror stories about the Soviet Union because everybody who came back was always horrified, like waxy toilet paper.
00:58:03.000 Um, four hour wait at the one McDonald's, and it was a one week paycheck to like get a cheeseburger, which was like not even good meat in the Soviet Union.
00:58:12.000 They couldn't say anything, like, they were always being guarded and watched by the KGB on these exchange programs.
00:58:19.000 Uh, I don't know if you guys ever saw the movie, The Death of Stalin, I think really kind of epitomizes how bad it is.
00:58:25.000 I haven't seen it.
00:58:27.000 You just see it.
00:58:28.000 Um, we had to spend all of our high school raising money for children of Chernobyl because all of the kids had.
00:58:35.000 Um, thyroid cancer from Chernobyl.
00:58:37.000 Chernobyl didn't happen just because there was a nuclear meltdown.
00:58:40.000 Chernobyl happened because anybody who knew what was happening or how bad it was was never going to say anything because their family would have been disappeared. 0.98
00:58:48.000 Like, how do we get this through to Gen Z?
00:58:51.000 That I am so sorry you can't afford a burrito right now, but there are no burritos in communism and we will get the burrito affordable.
00:58:59.000 It's just going to take a while.
00:59:00.000 Like, how do we really emphasize this to the kids?
00:59:03.000 It's as you say, uh, it is tough.
00:59:06.000 Uh, when we were growing up, then there was a much better understanding of. 0.95
00:59:09.000 Why the Soviet Union was so bad.
00:59:11.000 And yet, I will note that the same people who were radicals today were huge simps for the Soviet Union.
00:59:17.000 They would make endless excuses.
00:59:19.000 Bernie Sanders would run interference for them.
00:59:21.000 Yeah, they would visit the Soviet Union and come back and be like, I've seen the future and it works and they have more freedom than we do.
00:59:28.000 Well, and Tucker Carlson did that video talking about Moscow's grocery store.
00:59:33.000 Well, so an interesting thing I will say is one reason it's tougher is we do see competing systems.
00:59:39.000 And this is why we have an important responsibility to fix our own problems because.
00:59:43.000 For example, people worry about China, and China is very authoritarian in a ton of ways.
00:59:49.000 It's not a free country in so many ways.
00:59:50.000 It doesn't have the rights we do. 0.80
00:59:52.000 But what is different between them and the Soviet Union is they don't have that same obvious lack of prosperity that you'd go to the Soviet Union and everyone would be in a line. 0.83
01:00:01.000 You have to all show up before 7 a.m. on meat day at the supermarket or you're not going to get any meat and the meat will be bad.
01:00:07.000 China has a very rapidly growing economy.
01:00:10.000 They have a lot of technological success.
01:00:13.000 They're getting richer every year.
01:00:14.000 And so people are able to look at that and go, oh, maybe there is something to their system. 0.86
01:00:18.000 Or they're able to look at, Another authoritarian country like Saudi Arabia or something, and they'll look at those countries and say, Yeah, Dubai, they're able to build things, and we struggle to build things, and they don't seem to have bums on the street. 0.65
01:00:29.000 And that's really what Tucker was showing when he went to, for example, that Russian supermarket, which was, oh, it seems like it's affordable.
01:00:36.000 You go 15 minutes out of Moscow and it's a good accommodation.
01:00:41.000 There's misleading things about it, but we do have to make sure we can fix these crises in the US because it is really the problems in the US that are making it so appealing to look for another system.
01:00:52.000 And it's like we said earlier.
01:00:53.000 It's a lot of it is resentment and anger driven, and they're not even really thinking what is socialism other than it's a word for I don't like what's going on and I want to blow everything up and burn it all down.
01:01:06.000 I agree with Blake.
01:01:08.000 Here's what I would say the truth is that, you know, they all believe that it hasn't been tried the right way yet.
01:01:15.000 They all think that their version of this is going to somehow net something different.
01:01:20.000 And I was actually, I posted this on my X feed last night about Milton Friedman would say that.
01:01:25.000 Inflation is the great robber, right?
01:01:28.000 Milton Friedman was in favor of limiting the supply of money and getting economists out of that and just increasing it by about 3% every year and telling the economists, stop doing anything else, balance your budget, stop printing money willy nilly, 3% every year,
01:01:42.000 because only DC can make inflation.
01:01:45.000 And the great robber right now is inflation.
01:01:47.000 What happened during Biden was the roadmap to radicalize politics because guess what? 0.81
01:01:52.000 It's that K shaped economy where everybody who didn't own assets or equities or homes is getting squeezed. 0.95
01:01:58.000 And everybody who did is getting richer. 0.98
01:02:00.000 So we have this K shaped economy. 1.00
01:02:01.000 It's a huge, huge problem. 1.00
01:02:02.000 And it will radicalize our politics.
01:02:05.000 And to Blake's point, we have to look in the mirror and say, this happened because we spent too much money.
01:02:11.000 We printed money into oblivion.
01:02:13.000 And sadly, you're right.
01:02:16.000 It will get better if we do a certain number of things long enough. 0.99
01:02:20.000 And the pitch we have to make to young people is get literate in economics because we have a lot of financial illiteracy in this country, especially with Gen Z. 0.86
01:02:30.000 But you got to give it time. 0.99
01:02:31.000 And so we are in a race against the clock.
01:02:39.000 So, does that answer your question?
01:02:41.000 Does that answer your question here? 0.96
01:02:44.000 I think so, but I wish they knew that Alger Hiss was evil and that, you know, Joe McCarthy was right.
01:02:51.000 Alger Hiss, man, Alger Hiss, that's a deep cut. 0.59
01:02:53.000 Yeah, people do not know about Alger Hiss.
01:02:55.000 Talk about that for yourself.
01:02:55.000 Oh, yeah, 40 seconds.
01:02:56.000 So, Alger Hiss, he was a guy in the State Department, a pretty senior aide in the State Department, like was involved in a lot of key decisions.
01:03:03.000 And then it was revealed, I believe it was Whitaker Chambers accused him of this and just pointed out, it's like, Alger, you were a communist in the 30s and, you know, you've never.
01:03:12.000 Publicly disavowed this, you might still be a communist.
01:03:15.000 I can't remember the exact thing he said.
01:03:16.000 And he denied this.
01:03:17.000 And basically, it wasn't even just that, it was that he turned out to be a Soviet spy.
01:03:22.000 And this was a big lib cause celeb, 40s, 50s, 60s, really through the end of the Cold War, was how he was vilified and shamed.
01:03:29.000 And they lied about him and called him a Soviet spy just to smear him.
01:03:33.000 Cold War ended.
01:03:34.000 We got the Soviet archives.
01:03:35.000 Alger Hiss was a Soviet spy.
01:03:36.000 There's probably a lot more of those around. 0.95
01:03:39.000 Oh, yeah.
01:03:40.000 And Nixon took him down.
01:03:41.000 So that's the great Nixon win.
01:03:42.000 Nixon, we should talk about the rise of Nixon.
01:03:44.000 This is fun.
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01:04:49.000 Who's up next?
01:04:51.000 Do we want to do Anthony next?
01:04:53.000 Yeah, we'll just do Anthony.
01:04:54.000 All right, Anthony, what's your question?
01:04:56.000 Hey, guys.
01:04:58.000 And to answer the Dodger thing, Freeman is a 50 50 because he plays for Team Canada.
01:05:03.000 He does.
01:05:04.000 He plays for Team Canada.
01:05:05.000 Okay, so if you count him, then you have only three Americans in your entire starting lineup.
01:05:10.000 Three and a half.
01:05:11.000 Freeman feels really American, even if he's technically tainted by foreign.
01:05:16.000 Dude, he is American. 0.88
01:05:17.000 Nope, nope.
01:05:17.000 He plays for Team Canada when it comes time for world play because of his mother, because she's Canadian.
01:05:21.000 God rest her soul.
01:05:23.000 We love our good Canadians.
01:05:24.000 All right.
01:05:25.000 Signed, Anthony, what's your question?
01:05:26.000 All right. 0.99
01:05:27.000 Here's my question Are local communities going to care what the citizens say about when these Islam centers want to come up? 0.93
01:05:37.000 Because we see in McKinney, Texas, they bought five acres of land.
01:05:39.000 They want to put up some sort of Islamic center.
01:05:41.000 And people have spoken out about it.
01:05:43.000 But I think the board voted 7 0 in favor to build it.
01:05:49.000 And actually, one person who spoke has been going viral on social media.
01:05:52.000 He was a former Islam, and now he's a Christian.
01:05:56.000 He's. 0.99
01:05:57.000 Like blowing the lid off of how bad Sharia law is. 0.96
01:06:00.000 But, like, do local communities care or are they just going to side with Islam? 0.51
01:06:05.000 Yeah, I saw this story. 0.95
01:06:07.000 Your state is demolishing its own history.
01:06:10.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:06:11.000 This is happening all over Texas.
01:06:13.000 My gosh.
01:06:14.000 Yeah. 0.97
01:06:14.000 So I'm going to get Amy Meck on the show soon, who has been working really hard on this. 0.97
01:06:19.000 I've been talking to her behind the scenes. 1.00
01:06:20.000 Texas is a problem. 0.83
01:06:21.000 This is a huge problem.
01:06:23.000 And I will tell you, when I go to Texas, it's almost like the kids.
01:06:27.000 Are so used to this brand of Texas being hard right that they want to rebel against it just because they don't understand that everybody has been moving to their state because it's a great place and their traditional values that they suddenly want to reject
01:06:43.000 are also what makes it so great.
01:06:44.000 So there's just no appreciation for their heritage and their past.
01:06:48.000 But yeah, I mean, these city councils are out of line and who knows what's happening.
01:06:52.000 Either they don't want to be called the racist word, they don't want the R word to happen, or there's money involved.
01:06:58.000 There's pressure from developers.
01:07:00.000 Texas has a real big problem with developers just running roughshod over the state.
01:07:04.000 They're ripping up farmland left and right.
01:07:06.000 They love building homes on old farms and things like that.
01:07:10.000 And then you've got this whole move.
01:07:11.000 I mean, oftentimes Tyler will say this about Arizona.
01:07:15.000 The lefties in Arizona are radical lefties. 0.97
01:07:18.000 Like we have the craziest lefties. 0.97
01:07:19.000 If you go around the state, it feels like a center right state. 0.95
01:07:23.000 It very much does.
01:07:24.000 Like you can feel the spirit of the people.
01:07:26.000 But the lefties that we have are radical.
01:07:28.000 And I think Texas is the same way.
01:07:29.000 Look at this picture of, throw it up, of James Talrico and this gal.
01:07:34.000 I mean, this is an image of Texas, if we can.
01:07:40.000 Guess we can't.
01:07:42.000 All right.
01:07:43.000 If you throw it up, I mean, you'll see what I mean here.
01:07:45.000 James Talrico.
01:07:46.000 So I don't know exactly the underlying story here of this particular city council, but the town came out and just raged against them, and they still voted to pass this.
01:07:58.000 And I believe that Texas now has the second most mosques, or is it the third?
01:08:02.000 It's like New York, California, and Texas. 1.00
01:08:04.000 It's top three.
01:08:05.000 Yeah, it's a big state.
01:08:06.000 Yeah, it's a big state, but I mean, it's Texas.
01:08:09.000 It's crazy.
01:08:09.000 And they are trying to conquer.
01:08:11.000 Do you know any specifics about this case?
01:08:13.000 Not in the specific one. 0.73
01:08:14.000 Well, I know the areas that aren't getting conquered by Mohammedans and Islam are getting conquered by Indians. 1.00
01:08:22.000 So the whole state is just being conquered. 1.00
01:08:25.000 Frisco, Texas, which is a very wealthy state, is very big in Indian H 1B visas.
01:08:30.000 It's a very liberal bastion.
01:08:34.000 Yeah, let me see.
01:08:35.000 Austin.
01:08:36.000 Yep.
01:08:38.000 Of the century old houses, 1906, 1908, Nueces.
01:08:45.000 Historical Landmark Commission was told it has zero power to stop it because of a 2019 state law, protects religious organizations from local historic review.
01:08:53.000 No hearing, no debate, just gone.
01:08:56.000 And yeah, it's terrifying.
01:08:59.000 We got a couple more questions here, Anthony, we're going to get to.
01:09:02.000 Thank you for calling in.
01:09:03.000 Who's next? 0.99
01:09:03.000 Let's do Julia. 0.99
01:09:04.000 Julia.
01:09:05.000 All right, Julia, what's your question?
01:09:06.000 Please unmute yourself.
01:09:09.000 Julia, well, we're running out of time, so how about we read her question then?
01:09:15.000 She says, When did Charlie spend time reading the Bible?
01:09:18.000 He was so busy, so I'm curious to know how he managed his time.
01:09:22.000 Danny, you might know that one best.
01:09:24.000 Yeah, I mean, he read it all the time on the planes that we take and all that kind of stuff.
01:09:29.000 He was always studying from it, too.
01:09:31.000 Frank Turk was a good friend of his, so he's always then communicating with him to further.
01:09:37.000 His understanding of stuff.
01:09:38.000 So, apologetics.
01:09:39.000 Yeah, apologetics.
01:09:40.000 That was his big thing.
01:09:41.000 Working on proving the faith or defending the faith.
01:09:44.000 And yeah, the rest of the time he did it by himself, quietly at home.
01:09:47.000 He did it at home a lot.
01:09:49.000 I think one thing about Charlie is he was a busy guy, but I think one thing we have to emphasize is how Charlie was highly effective and efficient with his time.
01:10:00.000 So, for example, we know he was really busy, yet Charlie was not a guy who was at the office at 9 p.m. every night, which is maybe your classic workaholic.
01:10:08.000 Thing.
01:10:08.000 Charlie actually did try to get home at a reasonable hour with his family.
01:10:12.000 And so I think a lot of this he would talk about studying all the Dennis Prager courses.
01:10:16.000 He would go home.
01:10:17.000 He would be listening to that while driving.
01:10:18.000 He would be doing that at home while he's with his family.
01:10:22.000 He watched every single fireside chat too, which was pretty fun.
01:10:25.000 And he read the Bible series of the Torah that Dennis wrote.
01:10:30.000 But yeah, he studied it a lot.
01:10:32.000 And I think he, remember, he took a Sabbath, and that was one of the things he would do on the Sabbath.
01:10:36.000 So that was true.
01:10:38.000 She was very good about not, it's so easy to have more time.
01:10:41.000 You think about the amount of time where you're just sort of wasting it in the margins between.
01:10:46.000 So you pull out your phone and you're reading it, and that turns into a 15 minute thing, and you do that in the morning, you do it at lunch, and you do it after.
01:10:53.000 Suddenly, that's 45 minutes to an hour.
01:10:55.000 You could have been dedicated to.
01:10:57.000 Reading your Bible per day.
01:10:59.000 And Charlie's the kind of guy where he was actually doing that.
01:11:01.000 He was never just doom scrolling on his phone.
01:11:04.000 Who do we got next?
01:11:05.000 Sandy.
01:11:06.000 Sandy, welcome to the show.
01:11:09.000 Please unmute yourself.
01:11:11.000 I feel like I'm a Texan, and I feel like 20 plus years ago, when I was just starting out really in my career, about 10 years in,
01:11:23.000 I was called on as a junior person to help the Indian contractors.
01:11:29.000 You know, assimilate basically, work with them, bring them in.
01:11:33.000 And again, hey, I'm looking as a Christian.
01:11:38.000 I'm, you know, accepting people,
01:11:42.000 just caring for people.
01:11:43.000 And I still have some very long friends that are Indian in different industries now and everything.
01:11:52.000 But I just feel like I helped, you know, start bringing them in.
01:11:59.000 And then cut to 20 years later, you know, I was let go because of the hostility of, you know, one of the reasons hostility towards, you know,
01:12:15.000 anyone who disagreed with them.
01:12:16.000 All right.
01:12:17.000 So, Sandy, you're saying 20 years ago, you helped these people assimilate, you loved them, you had a Christian heart towards them.
01:12:23.000 Fast forward 20 years later, you're getting let go because of some hostility within the Indian community towards you, a white Texan.
01:12:30.000 Is that basically it?
01:12:32.000 I mean, you know, I, again, I consider it as individuals.
01:12:37.000 You know, I'm not going to say the whole Indian community or anything like that because I do have some cherished friends that I still have.
01:12:45.000 I get it.
01:12:46.000 You're not hateful towards them, but how did you get fired?
01:12:51.000 Well, I was let go with the, you know, corporate wide
01:12:58.000 downsizing, if you will.
01:13:00.000 Yes.
01:13:01.000 But I had already been, you know, shared with me that.
01:13:06.000 You know, oh, well, you probably don't want to, you know, ruffle feathers within the contractors.
01:13:13.000 And at that time, I was a manager with 20 something contractors offshore and, you know, who I really cared about and took care of, but mainly the ones that were here onshore,
01:13:29.000 supposedly speaking for them and trying to maneuver contracts and everything here.
01:13:37.000 We can constantly butted heads.
01:13:40.000 I mean, it just was truly unfortunate.
01:13:45.000 Why were you guys butting heads?
01:13:46.000 Was it cultural?
01:13:47.000 Were they trying to move contracts to other Indians?
01:13:51.000 And you were trying to do what was best in the company's interest?
01:13:53.000 Or what specifically was the issue?
01:13:58.000 Definitely butting heads on I was looking out for the best interest of the company.
01:14:04.000 And they were just trying to make sure they got.
01:14:09.000 Contracts renewed, more money, more money, you know, more people.
01:14:17.000 And, you know, it's just.
01:14:19.000 I have a question for you.
01:14:21.000 Did you notice that Indians wanted to hire other Indians and that was pretty much what they were interested in, or were they open to hiring whites, blacks, Hispanics?
01:14:34.000 When I left, our CIO was Indian, and we had many levels of our organization beginning to be populated by Indians.
01:14:52.000 So you got replaced. 1.00
01:14:54.000 Yeah.
01:14:58.000 Yeah.
01:14:58.000 Which again, you know, when I walked out the door, when I was escorted out the door, I told my, you know, it was an AVP at that level.
01:15:10.000 I told them, God's got me.
01:15:12.000 So I had no, you know, animosity towards them.
01:15:20.000 I knew that God was allowing this.
01:15:22.000 Change in my life, and it's been a struggle, but I know he still has me, and it's increased my faith.
01:15:33.000 Well, God bless you on the micro level because God does have you, and God's got a plan, and that is true. 0.97
01:15:41.000 But on the macro level, we should not be importing hundreds of thousands of foreigners to come replace Americans in their place of work. 0.99
01:15:50.000 That is a breakdown of the social compact, that is a breakdown. 0.97
01:15:55.000 Of, I think, a government's responsibility to its own people.
01:16:00.000 And they're putting the interest of corporations before the interests of the American people that vote for them.
01:16:07.000 And so I am extraordinarily upset on your behalf that you've had to train your replacements and ultimately be replaced by them and shoved out of a job.
01:16:18.000 And this is why there's so much passion about H 1Bs and these tech companies and these offshoring of American jobs, because by birth and by right, We should be given first opportunity to thrive in this country because you were born here.
01:16:34.000 You were raised here.
01:16:36.000 And 20 years ago, when this was all just starting, this wasn't a concern.
01:16:40.000 People didn't realize what was coming down the pipe for them.
01:16:44.000 But now we know.
01:16:45.000 And so to continue to allow this to happen is an absolute travesty.
01:16:49.000 It's, I think, morally wrong on so many levels.
01:16:54.000 And so it kind of goes back to this conversation about how should we structure our economy, the free market.
01:16:58.000 The free market will.
01:17:00.000 If you have zero regulations on anything, they'll just offshore everything. 0.90
01:17:03.000 They'll hollow out the industrial base in the Midwest.
01:17:07.000 So I want an economy that, yeah, where capital is free to move, but we incentivize employers and businesses to keep their business here and to hire American.
01:17:17.000 And I'm sorry this happened to you, but it's all too common and it breaks my heart for you.
01:17:22.000 Thank you.
01:17:23.000 And I hurt that
01:17:28.000 the leadership that I had at the time was cautioning me.
01:17:34.000 To, oh, kind of stay low.
01:17:36.000 Let us be the bad guy.
01:17:38.000 And I'm like, you're not down at this level.
01:17:42.000 You're not having the daily calls and the hours and hours on offshore and onshore calls and having to keep them accountable for the product that they provide.
01:17:57.000 I stagger at the thought of the amount of money that was wasted and lost because.
01:18:07.000 Of the whole situation.
01:18:10.000 I loved that company and I would have been faithful to them until I could have retired.
01:18:18.000 Well, I'm genuinely sorry for this happening to you.
01:18:23.000 And it just, like I said, it breaks my heart because your story is not unique to you, unfortunately.
01:18:28.000 This is happening all over the country.
01:18:31.000 And that's.
01:18:32.000 People want a country, they want cities, they want churches, and yet they want companies that they feel they belong to.
01:18:43.000 And the long term trend towards all of those things feeling alienating and often like hostile or indifferent to you is.
01:18:52.000 A big driver of why I think a lot of people are feeling stressed out and unhappy.
01:18:57.000 And even on the left, it's that a lot of this is manifesting that way, I think.
01:19:01.000 Well, and I just want to, you know, your Christian faith is beautiful, and I commend you for that.
01:19:07.000 And all of God's children are made in His image, and we should have a heart for them.
01:19:12.000 But I just want to caution the Christians out there listening that if we are just sewing circle Christians, and I'm not accusing you of that, I just mean that there is this temptation as Christians to sort of sit back.
01:19:26.000 And let bad things happen because we want to be nice to everybody.
01:19:29.000 Well, no, this was an injustice that was done to you.
01:19:33.000 This shouldn't have happened.
01:19:35.000 Your leaders failed you.
01:19:36.000 Your political leaders failed you.
01:19:37.000 Your corporate leaders failed you.
01:19:39.000 Your community leaders and city council people probably failed you as well.
01:19:43.000 And it is okay to have a righteous anger against these things and to not just be walked over.
01:19:49.000 So, as Christians, we have a right to fight for the truth, we have a right to fight against injustice and to fight with all our might.
01:19:58.000 And so, that's what we should do.
01:19:59.000 That's what Charlie did. 0.97
01:20:01.000 I'm sorry this happened to you, but that's one of the reasons we do what we do is so that this country changes and that we stop getting walked over and taken as suckers because we've been suckers for a long time.
01:20:12.000 And I don't want this to happen to anybody else.
01:20:14.000 So God bless you.
01:20:15.000 I'm sorry about your story.
01:20:16.000 And thank you for sharing it with us today.
01:20:18.000 That wraps us up for this Friday.
01:20:20.000 We will see you again on Monday.
01:20:22.000 God bless you all.
01:20:23.000 Talk to you then.
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