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00:02:00.000We don't really cushion things very much, we're straight to the point.0.86
00:02:04.000Uh, but it's not that Allie cushions it.0.99
00:02:06.000It's just that she has an amazingly godly way of communicating hard truths and biblical truths in a world where young ladies are lacking role models.
00:02:17.000She is a godly role model, a mother, a wife, someone who understands the scriptures very well and somebody that we're just honored to partner with.
00:02:26.000She's going to be speaking at our women's summit at Turning Point USA this weekend.
00:02:30.000Um, she is very, very gifted and not afraid to bring the heat Against this broken culture.
00:02:36.000So join me in welcoming Ali Beth Stuckey.
00:03:39.000And anyway, you'll be able to watch it online.
00:03:43.000Again, nearly 2,000 young women from across the country will be gathering in San Antonio, Texas this weekend.
00:03:49.000It's a remarkable thing, all becoming force multipliers.
00:03:52.000Allie, why don't you just take a second, introduce yourself, the books you've written, your podcast, just introduce yourself to the audience.
00:04:00.000So my name is Allie Stuckey, and I am a wife and a mom of three girls.
00:04:04.000So that's more important or most important underneath my relationship with Jesus Christ.
00:04:11.000My desire to make him known is my vocation as a wife and mom.
00:04:15.000But then also, I host this podcast called Relatable.
00:04:18.000Good job getting the title of that right, Charlie, where we analyze news, culture, politics, theology from a Christian conservative perspective.
00:04:29.000And I talked to mostly women ages 25 to 45 about the importance of building a biblical worldview.
00:04:38.000And the reason I did it was not the exact same story as Charlie's when he thought of Turning Point, but it was a little similar in that I was driving one day and I just realized, oh, this is a big problem.
00:04:55.000I was living in a pretty conservative college town in Athens, Georgia, used to be conservative, and I was looking around and thinking, All of these young women who claimed to be Christian, who were raised in these solid homes.
00:05:09.000This was, of course, the election of Trump and Hillary Clinton, and they did not know anything that was at stake in the election.
00:05:18.000They didn't know who they were going to vote for.
00:05:21.000I was leading a Bible study at the time.
00:05:27.000One of the sweet girls in my Bible study, who was so smart, she told me that she loved Bernie Sanders.
00:05:36.000And that is when I realized, okay, we've got some work to do.
00:05:43.000And so I speak to mostly Christian women.
00:05:47.000And by the way, she is a wife, mom, Trump voting conservative Republican today, thankfully, by the grace of God.
00:05:57.000But anyway, and so that's why I started to do what I do now.
00:06:03.000I'm speaking to mostly Christian women.
00:06:06.000Okay, what is the Bible says about these issues?0.98
00:06:09.000How do we approach these very controversial topics today that honestly most Christian female leaders are really wishy washy, really mushy, really weak on?1.00
00:06:21.000What does the Bible say about these things?0.99
00:06:23.000And of course, I'm not the perfect arbiter of what the Bible says about everything, but my goal is to help us do our best in building our worldview on scripture.
00:06:36.000And Allie, Is one of our most requested speakers at Turning Point USA.
00:06:41.000And we did a campus event together in Auburn.
00:06:44.000And I think that clip has been seen like 50 or 60 million times where a young lady came up and asked me, Where's my criminology degree or something?
00:08:10.000And I think it really goes all the way back to the Garden of Eden.
00:08:13.000We're seeing that reflected in the West today, or maybe just in the world today, when you look back at Adam's sin, the sin of passivity, when he stood there as Eve listened to the serpent and took The bite that she shouldn't have taken.
00:08:28.000And then Eve hearing and being tempted to be convinced by the question, Did God really say?
00:08:37.000And I still see that manifesting itself today among men and women.0.82
00:08:44.000Women being tempted by this very deceptive and cunning question, But did God really say?0.80
00:08:53.000Did God really say on the issue of marriage or on the issue of gender, on the issue of gender roles?0.95
00:09:01.000Whatever it is that the culture today deems controversial, did God really say?
00:09:07.000I like to say that women, I don't like to say it, but I do say it, that women are typically tempted by something that I call toxic empathy.
00:09:15.000Because we are feelings based, because we have sympathy and have empathy for those who are on the margins and we really want to build relationships, we very often can confuse empathy for love.
00:09:31.000And we very often can obscure the truth just because we want to affirm how someone feels.
00:09:37.000And that gets a lot of women, even Christian women, in very unbiblical territory when it comes to social justice, when it comes to LGBTQ, when it comes to all kinds of issues that women have a lot of maybe rightful feelings about,
00:09:55.000but our feelings cannot obscure what the Word of God says about these things.
00:10:00.000And so I try to navigate that as much as I can.
00:10:05.000The idea of male and female differences is a distinction that is fundamental to any society, which is one of the reasons why Satan tries to obscure those differences.
00:10:14.000Those differences are beautiful, and those distinctions are necessary for us to be able to live in a free society and live in a civil society.
00:10:23.000And we're seeing those eradicated on a daily basis.
00:10:27.000I got in a lot of trouble recently when I said, you might remember, and you defended me, by the way, very nicely on social media, where I, and I didn't say it as politely as Ali would have said it.
00:10:38.000But I said, young ladies, be careful prioritizing career over family formation because you might end up in your early 30s with a career but no family and lots of cats.
00:10:50.000I got in a lot of trouble for saying that.
00:10:59.000There is a trend, and you just mentioned this the most left wing cohort in America are not black voters, they're not Hispanic voters, they are single, unmarried.
00:11:10.000Career college educated young ladies living in the urban cities of this country that have made a conscious decision over a period of 10 or 15 years to not get into serious relationships and not prioritize family formation.
00:11:23.000Yes, many of those women have made that conscious decision.0.98
00:11:27.000They decided or they bought into this lie that has been propagated by the media that you can become a mom whenever, you can get married whenever, and really right now you just need to focus on you.0.79
00:11:41.000You need to learn how to love yourself first.
00:11:44.000If you don't fully know yourself and love yourself and discover yourself and fulfill and empower yourself, then you'll never be able to be a good wife and mom and have other good relationships.
00:11:55.000Well, what happens when you believe that lie?
00:11:58.000Because it's not true, this whole thing that you can't love other people until you perfectly love yourself.
00:12:04.000I think that's actually a lie from the pit of hell that Satan uses to defer us from loving other people because we'll never perfectly love ourselves.
00:12:12.000Love ourselves, and by the way, we're not even called to focus on loving ourselves at all.
00:12:18.000But women, we believe this self empowerment talk because it sounds good, and so you believe that you can defer motherhood.
00:12:26.000In an age when we think that biology is arbitrary the biology of male and female, but also the biology of reproduction and the female body it sounds really convincing.
00:12:38.000And then, like Charlie said, I may or may not have included cats as I was talking about this, but it's a fair point.
00:12:48.000A lot of women end up realizing, oh, I didn't realize that this would be so difficult at this point.0.99
00:12:57.000I didn't realize that I wouldn't be able to find a man right away or get pregnant very easily just because that's how female biology tends to work.
00:13:07.000Now, I will say, and this is what I also said on my show, because I have beautiful, godly, single, 30 something friends who are doing all the right things.0.59
00:13:19.000Things who, yes, they have a career because what were they supposed to do?
00:13:23.000But they've been going to church, they've been serving, they've been trying to meet the right guy, they just haven't met the right person.
00:13:29.000And so, I do also, I always want to give encouragement to that woman who feels like, oh my gosh, I've tried to do everything right and I haven't met the man that I'm gonna marry.
00:13:41.000And then they feel like, oh, Charlie Kirk thinks I'm the cat lady and I'm not.
00:13:47.000I do want to speak to that woman because I have friends like that that are beautiful, godly women and total catches.
00:13:53.000And they just haven't found the right person.0.95
00:13:55.000Is that God can use you fully right now where you are, no matter your relationship status and no matter whether you have children?
00:14:13.000You're not in a holding pattern, you're not in some kind of earthly purgatory, you're not useless to the kingdom of God just because of your relationship status.
00:14:23.000Satan wants you to think that you're not a full woman or you're not a full Christian until XYZ happens.
00:14:29.000And that is a lie that will steal your joy and that will steal your usefulness for the kingdom of God.
00:14:35.000And so it's not a guarantee, one, that we're going to get married.
00:14:38.000It's not a guarantee that we'll have children, hopefully.
00:14:43.000But I just want you to know that if you want those things, God hasn't given you those things yet.
00:14:48.000You're being, you know, placed in the right spot to try to have those things one day, that you are still fully capable of being used by God right now.
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00:16:20.000And when I sometimes hear Christians tell me that we need more self love, and I would love to like find the Bible verse, like, I mean, I guess it says, love your neighbor as yourself, but that's not exactly, I mean, we're supposed to love Jesus and love God.
00:16:35.000I mean, it says in Deuteronomy 6, 6, 3, and 5, love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, strength, and mind.
00:17:20.000We don't always like what we see when we look in the mirror.
00:17:23.000Maybe we regret something that we did or we wish we could change something about our personalities or our capabilities.
00:17:29.000But we love ourselves innately in that we are always seeking to satisfy our own needs and wants, to quench our own thirst, to satisfy our own hunger.
00:17:39.000So in that way that you so naturally seek to meet your own needs, Jesus is saying, seek to meet the needs of other people.
00:18:13.000I saw an awful statistic on X today about how suicide rates are climbing and they're so much higher than they were just 10 years ago.
00:18:26.000And it's so interesting because we have more self love talk, more self empowerment talk, less shame, less stigma, more tolerance, more acceptance of everything, and still we have this pandemic of despair.
00:18:42.000I mean, to me, it seems obvious that despair has gone up as godlessness has gone up, right?
00:18:49.000That as godlessness has increased, people have lost their joy, they've lost their purpose, they've lost their community.
00:19:28.000If you go into almost any public school here in Scottsdale or around the country, self love is the state run religion of K through 12 education.
00:19:39.000Also, paganism and environmental worship, anti racism, transgenderism, grooming.
00:19:46.000But self love is the one that Christians fall for far too often.0.92
00:19:51.000And here is the, Ali, you said it perfectly.0.76
00:19:54.000You would think that when a society starts to love themselves more, then Let's just say actions of despair, suicide, drug overdosing, aimlessness, checking out of society would go down.
00:20:08.000So, as we have prioritized self esteem or self love, and we've de emphasized self control, big difference, we have seen the West collapse.
00:20:21.000Because when you have self love, you're thinking about yourself all the time.
00:21:09.000Because every so often, I'll hear a pastor or two kind of spite, you know, add in a little bit of a self love thing and just take a moment and think about yourself, or you can do it if you put your mind to it.
00:21:22.000Yeah, I guess it's a form of therapeutic Christianity.
00:21:27.000And the therapy world is very influenced by New Age philosophy.
00:21:32.000And I see this a lot among Christian women reading books that are really more New Age.
00:21:37.000And the idea goes like, Like this, that we are all on a journey to find ourselves, and that inside we have this beautiful goddess that's really perfect.
00:21:48.000And if we throw off all societal expectations, toxic relationships, people's unfair standards, religion, rules, all of that, then we'll unleash this perfect goddess inside of ourselves,
00:22:03.000and everything that we've ever wanted will finally become ours and we'll finally be happy and fulfilled.
00:22:09.000Every single teacher, every single author I know that has pushed that message behind her.
00:22:18.000Is broken relationships, broken friendships, a lot of deceit, and simply a lot of sadness.
00:22:27.000That is not the journey that the Christian is on.
00:22:31.000In scripture, when we see self dash something else, it's never self empowerment or self sufficiency, it's self denial, it's self control.
00:22:45.000So we already know that unleashed, we love ourselves a lot.
00:22:51.000Is giving in to every feeling and want that I have.
00:22:56.000And I mean, we can look at any human being, we can look at all of history, we can look at any toddler that we see running around, and we see the terror that it looks like when someone is only concerned with what they want in any given moment.0.69
00:23:15.000So, yeah, to answer your question, I think it's new age therapy that has woven itself into Christianity.
00:23:22.000And they think telling people that feeling better about yourself is the same thing as the gospel, and it's not.
00:23:29.000And I compare it to I think an entire generation has effectively lived the metaphorical King Solomon life, meaning they've done everything they want to do, they've had every earthly treasure imaginable.
00:23:41.000And I encourage you guys just to open up the first couple of verses of Ecclesiastes.
00:23:47.000You'll think you're reading like a 16 year old suicide note.
00:24:57.000Because our job is to tell a broken culture to basically repent from their vices and to go through a chapter that might be uncomfortable, but it's actually better for them.
00:25:12.000It's trying to get a country to take the metaphorical cough medicine, essentially.
00:25:16.000And the church is supposed to be the one issuing that correction to the error.
00:25:32.000How do we best correct a broken culture without running the risk of being, let's just say, credibly accused of being legalistic or too harsh?0.69
00:25:43.000By credibly, I mean outside of the nonsensical fake Christians that issue those criticisms towards us.0.83
00:26:14.000So it made me think of something because whenever I hear the deconstruction testimonies of people who say, Oh, I know everything that you guys believe because I was raised believing that too.
00:26:25.000And now I'm so much smarter on the other side because I don't believe it.
00:26:46.000You know, being holy and I just couldn't do it.
00:26:49.000And I'm like, oh, someone along the way of your faith told you that it was going to be easy.
00:26:56.000Someone told you that this sanctification business was going to be fun all the time.
00:27:02.000Someone told you that we would just be able to pray our struggles away and they would be gone the next day.0.93
00:27:07.000And that's what the Christian life was going to look like.
00:27:10.000No one ever told you that self denial is going to be hard from here until glory.
00:27:16.000And so, a lot of the deconstruction movement, I think, is actually because of unfair expectations that are placed on them by pastors who say that Christianity is all about just being happy and loving yourself when it's not.
00:27:31.000We get something so much better through Christ.
00:27:34.000We get liberation from our sin and, of course, freedom from sin and sorrow forever and ever in heaven with Him.
00:27:41.000But now I'm forgetting what your question was because I went on my side.
00:28:09.000I think I end up getting a little bit too in the truth side.
00:28:12.000But I mean, let's just give an example.
00:28:13.000I mean, a young lady, you know, comes up to you and at a college event, she says that she's a practicing lesbian or what, you know, whatever.
00:28:34.000I don't go on college campuses in the same way that you do and have those interactions with people I disagree with every day.
00:28:39.000But I had this almost three hour debate on another podcast with a teacher who calls himself, of course, this is not something that's real, but he calls himself non binary.
00:28:51.000And he has a very large TikTok platform.
00:28:53.000He is a teacher of, I think, middle school students, and he's always talking about these things.
00:28:57.000He has his degree in statistics from Dartmouth.
00:29:01.000He went to Johns Hopkins for his education degree.
00:29:04.000So he really felt like he brought a lot to the table when we were debating gender ideology.
00:29:11.000And I had the opportunity to really minister to him in that conversation without backing down at all.
00:29:23.000Not even a little bit, because the truth is so obvious and it's so easy.
00:29:29.000And I did not have to give credence to anything he said.
00:29:33.000But when he told me, which was not surprising at all, that he was raised by two women, that he had no dad in his life, and really no father figure at all,
00:29:44.000and that he was very confused by the time he was a teenager and he felt like he was in the wrong body, it was that moment that I got to say, I bet that was so hard.
00:33:46.000That's the most important thing, not your character, not how you treat other people, not your relationship with the divine, not the things that actually matter.
00:33:57.000And remember, Before the fall is pride.
00:34:01.000Pride goeth before the fall and before destruction.
00:35:14.000We've also never watched Miss Rachel in my home.
00:35:17.000But she does seem, but this is where it gets dangerous.
00:35:20.000She does seem very sincere and very sweet.
00:35:23.000And she, a couple years ago, and I talked about it on my podcast at the time, and people freaked out about it because she invited Dylan Mulvaney, the grown man who calls himself a girl and got famous from dressing up basically like a six year old girl on TikTok.
00:36:15.000Go your own way, but I'm going to celebrate Pride.
00:36:18.000She follows back up saying, The reason I celebrate Pride, she says, is because of my Christian faith, because Jesus tells me to love my neighbor as myself, and there are no exceptions.
00:36:30.000And so, Miss Rachel, as sincere and as sweet as I think that she probably is, she confuses love, biblical love, With that toxic empathy.
00:36:45.000Toxic empathy says, because I can feel what you feel, I have to affirm what you feel is good.
00:37:56.000That's how important it is that we here on earth, as husband and wife, are an earthly reflection of the spiritual, eternal marriage between Christ, the bridegroom, and church, the bride.
00:38:09.000Two men can't be that, two women can't be that.