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00:01:23.000Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard tonight's edition of Thought Crime.
00:01:29.000And we're here in our normally stated, wonderfully capitalist, wonderfully flowing with milk and honey confines here to do the show.
00:01:44.000And of course, we haven't had any trouble at all lately causing freakouts all over the internet, whether it be Saturday night, the number one streaming for the entire weekend, then a massive war going all over social media.
00:03:51.000So, like, all last week, I made the comment attacking crony capitalism last week on the show, and we were going after Kevin O'Leary, and that became that, like, people freaked out, and that became like this huge trend.
00:04:06.000And then, Andrew, you kind of waded in, and I would say, like, in a very similar vein with this tweet about a burrito shouldn't cost $20.
00:04:15.000And yes, the very same people who were losing their minds at me, largely neocons, were all starting to attack you.
00:04:25.000And I didn't feel that attack because I didn't feel very happy.
00:04:37.000Just to again, just to say right from the very start that people need to remember that the original co host of this show, Charlie Kirk, was some topic that he talked about at great length throughout all of 2025.0.80
00:04:54.000Did his sit down interview with Tucker and was walking through all of the problems that young Americans are facing, and specifically outlined it by saying that if we want to prevent The rise of Mandami style candidates,
00:05:10.000then we need to actually address the economic concerns of young Americans.
00:05:15.000And from my perspective, that's all that I was saying.
00:05:20.000From your perspective, it seems to be in line with what you were saying about burritos, obviously.
00:05:25.000Because Charlie would listen to those same turning point students and college students that would come up at events and different things, and he was hearing their concerns and bringing it forward.
00:07:17.000Quote tweeted me basically saying that his wife paid for all of dinner, made dinner for what, like a family of eight or something like that?
00:07:27.000Like they have a big family, I think, with 20 bucks.
00:07:30.000And I was like, well, first of all, that's great.
00:07:33.000Love cooking for home, often much cheaper and much healthier.
00:07:38.000But now when you tell me you cooked for a family of eight or 20 bucks, I'm wondering how healthy that was.
00:07:44.000Anyways, so I mean, I think it was all like, here's my point.
00:08:07.000Literally, all the people that was in the chat.
00:08:09.000By the way, we should probably say that it was what really took this into the stratosphere and I think got a lot of the news involved was that.0.97
00:08:21.000Our great vice president, who's kind of been like, he's been taking a little bit of a Twitter break, at least from his spiciness, if you will.0.97
00:08:34.000He waded right in and he said, So, Mark Deeson, who is, shall we say, horizontally challenged, he would say, I'm surprised to hear Mark say this.
00:09:03.000Guys, we need to dive into the true, deeper, Thought crime element, which is how much should one spend for a burrito?
00:09:11.000And I was very appalled today to discover that for all his discussion on how much a burrito should cost, Andrew apparently tips at Chipotle guys.
00:11:01.000Yeah, the Iran war has not probably helped inflation, it's caused a supply side shock on the energy side, which has inflated energy prices, of course.
00:11:11.000But I believe those are temporary and we can get out from under those, especially if we get a peace deal, which I guess people like Mark Thiessen don't want a peace deal.
00:11:19.000They want a full regime change or something.0.78
00:11:22.000But the point is, the fact that it became a proxy jack for Iran is absolutely stunning.0.77
00:11:29.000I actually think, and I haven't thought about this enough until this moment, that the fact that they were so invested in that side of the argument that they were like, oh, just get a meal plan and oh, you guys are a bunch of babies.0.75
00:11:39.000You need to cook from home and eat 399 burritos filled with fake meat.
00:11:43.000Like, actually, it is a tell of how insecure they are about Iran.
00:11:49.000Yeah, it is because they know it's unpopular.
00:11:51.000They know that people are, you know, kind of up in arms about it.
00:11:56.000Look, I was down in Chattanooga last week at this conference with Barnes and Viva Fry, Rich Barris, and people were in this, like, just a grassroots conference.
00:12:04.000People from all over the country came in, and people were coming up to me saying, What is going on with this?
00:13:29.000So here, and you should chime in on this, Mikey and Blake, actually.
00:13:36.000My whole point was that it is political malfeasance not to acknowledge the real lived experience of your voters.
00:13:43.000So you might think that everybody is a bunch of whiny babies that just need to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps, which in general, there is a place for that kind of correction.
00:13:52.000But Blake and I, we spoke to these kids.
00:14:10.000It's still expensive because, like, you know, it feels weird that a burrito costs 20 bucks.
00:14:14.000And then, like, you know, everybody's freaking out.
00:14:17.000But I think it's, we got to address the needs, wants, and concerns, anxieties of younger voters if we have any hope of recapturing them in the coalition.
00:14:26.000But I go back and forth on this in truth because even if it's really obnoxious when Dan Crenshaw, like, there's a sort of male to male transsexual aspect of this that manifests where they have to be like, I'm such a man.1.00
00:14:41.000You whiny baby kids, you need your avocado toast and your burrito.1.00
00:14:46.000And like they do this very performative thing and it's very annoying.
00:14:49.000But it is also true that, in fact, if you want to get ahead in life, one of the fastest things you can do is spend less on fast food.0.99
00:14:58.000And a huge reason that young people actually are not getting ahead economically is they objectively, compared to prior generations, blow more of their money on stupid stuff.0.96
00:15:10.000So they blow more of their money on fast food and especially delivery.0.99
00:15:26.000If you're running that at a negative, which you almost certainly are because you get banned from the apps if you make money off them.
00:15:32.000If you're doing that, if you're doing a bunch of crypto speculation on stupid coins that go to zero, and then you blow money on drinking with your friends, you blow money on infinity other things you can buy online, you run out of money.
00:15:46.000And then you say, oh, I ran out of money and I'm Poor and like we need socialism as a solution.
00:15:51.000I do think we need the ability to confront that and say, like, this is a fixable problem that a lot of people refuse to fix, and we should reject demagogue politics that say otherwise.
00:16:01.000I can, so, so, I guess my response to that is like, I can remember when burritos were a dollar, and I remember being in college and like a burrito, not a big fancy burrito, but like one of those,
00:16:15.000like the value menu was a thing, and I definitely remember.
00:16:19.000When burritos or something McDonald's have the dollar menu.
00:16:23.000So you remember it was the dollar menu, but then the dollar menu became the value menu.
00:16:27.000And then the value, and I don't even know if they have that anymore.
00:16:29.000So, this idea that, you know, our country has become more expensive and some of these goods have become more expensive, it's just true.
00:16:36.000It's just obviously true that this isn't something you can just kind of buy with like pocket change anymore.
00:16:41.000And you could just grab like a quick, I'm not saying it's healthy, I'm not saying it's like, you know, anything that you should be doing.
00:16:47.000And yes, you know, you do have to do that sometime.
00:16:50.000But people also forget, I think, a lot that when you cook at home, you, you know, there's a time cost involved with that.
00:16:58.000And when you're, if you're young, If you're working and you're going to school at the same time, or if you have internships, that you're, you know, how much time do you have left for cooking?
00:17:06.000I'm not saying it takes a long time to do that.
00:17:08.000I'm just saying that it's much easier to grab and go some food and go do that.
00:17:12.000On the flip side, you know, a lot of people were pointing out, I saw as well, they're like, oh, just have your wife cook.
00:17:17.000And it's like, well, a lot of young people aren't getting married either, and they have problems with that as well.
00:17:22.000So you have all of these compound problems,
00:17:28.000you know, or should I say, Multi layered problems kind of stacked together almost like a five layer problem that they're dealing with, and a three cheese solution right around the corner.
00:22:38.000And uh, at Kidoba, uh, which is so much better than Chipotle, that um, so mine came to my normal, yeah, it's obviously better.
00:22:46.000Um, that it just my normal burrito order without any extras, any drink, no combo, anything like that was $16.85.
00:22:55.000And then if you, yeah, if you had um, if it's with a 20 tip, because I think we agreed we were going to look at 20 tip, it would just be over $20.
00:23:03.000Yep, yep, and that's without delivery fees.
00:23:06.000By the way, like, by the way, what's crazy is so we've got a bunch of people sending us images of like different Chipotle menus.
00:23:12.000They are actually pricing it based on like if they're in a high rent district or whatever.
00:23:17.000So, like, so where we were at, the most expensive steak burrito was like $11.95.
00:23:23.000And that's just that's before tax and tip and all that stuff.
00:23:27.000But in San Francisco, LA, Scottsdale, those are $14, $14.95.
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00:26:21.000I saw this Reddit online of a guy that found a receipt from like 2015 from Chipotle.
00:26:26.000And he was like, This is how much my burrito cost.
00:27:48.000I was like, and two, a lot of the companies that are operating after pay, Klarna, like one's an Australian company, one's a Swedish company.
00:27:57.000I was like, these are foreign governments prying on young people.
00:29:19.000I'm not making an argument that any of this.
00:29:24.000Is for an argument in favor of socialist policies and like government controls and price fixing, none of that.
00:29:31.000What I am saying though is if you do not talk to the voters where they are at, and if you are distracted with foreign policy abstractions and adventurism, then people that voted for you to deliver them better economic conditions are going to be frustrated.
00:29:45.000They are not going to either vote for you, they will opt out of voting, or they might, some of them, vote for the socialist.
00:29:51.000And so we as a conservative movement have to have a message of hope, optimism.
00:29:55.000And that our ideas are actually working.
00:29:57.000Because I actually think they are working, but we're not talking about them enough and we're not focusing on it enough.0.97
00:30:02.000And if everybody just tells Gen Z that they're a bunch of entitled little brats and they need to like eat crap, you know, horse meat passed off as burrito meat, then that's not going to work.0.97
00:30:17.000But what we do 100% see, people do react to the broader zeitgeist.
00:30:22.000And so if we're going to say we need to listen to voters, a lot of voters are essentially regurgitating a thing they are already hearing.
00:30:30.000From influencers, and that includes influencers on the right.
00:30:33.000So, one of the reasons people would just say grocery prices are way up is because they hear people on X all exclaiming that grocery prices are way up.
00:30:41.000And that doesn't mean there's no reality to it.
00:30:43.000Like, beef definitely got a lot more expensive in the last year.
00:30:45.000No, it's just claiming that groceries are up 30%.
00:31:25.000So depending on where you are on the economic ladder, and Cerno put that, I think, on social media.
00:31:32.000He said, as soon as gas hits over a hundred bucks to fill up my tank, I notice, and I go, Oh, come on.
00:31:38.000So, like, a hundred bucks is his threshold.0.86
00:31:40.000So, young people's threshold is going to be far, far lower and far more acute than somebody who's 30 or 40 and has a.
00:31:49.000Plus, again, you're talking about a decision.0.60
00:31:51.000This is the system I was talking about the five layer burrito that young Americans find themselves in because it's not just the price of burritos, right?0.78
00:34:21.000Like, there's definitely a take where when some people just pointed out, actually, like, a lot of places you can get burritos are not that expensive, and they'll just kind of.
00:34:28.000Blow up and start to be like, oh, really great message you're going to have there for young people.
00:34:32.000And then the tone basically is just you have to let people complain about anything.
00:34:38.000And if the truth is that you can actually go to a grocery store and get very affordable items, actually, cooking is very easy to do, easier than ever to learn at this point because there's YouTube guides, there's a million ways to figure it out online.
00:34:52.000And people just prefer, and you actually have more free time than your parents did 30 years ago.
00:35:15.000I mean, I certainly agree that people do spend too much time scrolling, but it's like I don't think people.
00:35:21.000I think that if you go around telling people that they should just suck it up and that their concerns don't matter, that's why Syed wins.0.63
00:35:31.000And Mamdani and Francesca, I hate Thanksgiving in Wisconsin.
00:35:36.000That's what allows those types of candidates to win.
00:36:07.000And, well, war, you got to print money for war.
00:36:10.000By the way, war causes issues like we're seeing in the Strait of Hormuz, where you got an energy shock.
00:36:15.000So these things are policy based, but bigger than anything.
00:36:19.000And when you're riding a $40 trillion debt and you have a $2 trillion deficit every year, you're printing money, you're borrowing money, you're putting dollars into circulation that's not matched by increased productivity.
00:36:29.000This is why Milton Friedman was like, set it and forget it.
00:36:31.000You should increase the money supply every year by 3% and get the economist out of the money supply because that's what ultimately causes inflation.
00:36:39.000But I mean, the fastest way to get inflation down right now is energy costs.
00:36:43.000And the fastest way to get rid of that is to end this war.
00:36:45.000And if we didn't start this war to begin with, we wouldn't be in the situation we're in right now.0.58
00:36:49.000So, is this first debate really just about the Iran war?
00:37:56.000Well, no, we had four years of inflation that was, to your point, it's about 30% inflation.
00:38:01.000People were reeling from the sticker price of everything in the market in terms of.
00:38:05.000And Charlie was saying, hey, we won in 24, but this is wet cement.
00:38:09.000It's not, we don't get these votes guaranteed for the rest of these people's lives.
00:38:12.000We have to deliver on our promises, which is we've got to bring affordability back.
00:38:17.000We've got to bring growth back because, I mean, candidly, on some of these stuff, whether it's If it's like beef, dropping beef prices is one thing, dropping egg prices, but you don't want deflation in the economy.
00:38:46.000We don't want 30% off at the grocery store.0.99
00:38:48.000In Mom Dhani's case, it's going to drive bodegas out of business and cause.1.00
00:38:52.000You know, it's going to cause shortages and all kinds of other disruptions, and they're going to seize more and more power in that city.0.72
00:39:00.000We don't want that because that ends in disasters.
00:39:02.000We want to unshackle the economy, and I think we've got to start educating young people on basic economic principles because right now I think they think the solution is taking the minimum wage to 20 bucks an hour.
00:39:14.000They think the solution is forgiving student loans.
00:39:16.000They think the solution is all kinds of government fixes, which is just going to further distort the economy.
00:39:21.000Well, and there are things the government can do, by the way, like mass deportations.
00:39:26.000That will actually help phenomenally with the labor market.
00:39:30.000That'll help with the housing market, housing prices, rent prices.
00:39:33.000So now that those pressures, right, now you're peeling away layers of the burrito because, hey, we are opening up the job market.
00:39:41.000Hey, we're opening up the dating market too, by the way.
00:39:44.000Now, perhaps mass deportations would lead to more higher prices for like DoorDash or Uber Eats or something like that because there's so many illegals that use that.0.93
00:40:35.000In the next five years, DoorDash has its.
00:40:38.000As it exists right now, it will not even be a thing.
00:40:41.000Like the food will not be picked up at restaurants.
00:40:44.000It's going to be made in these massive warehouses that are like data centers by robots, and then a car will come to the warehouse, pick up the order.
00:40:52.000And so these restaurants will white label and white list basically these warehouses in these machines to make.
00:41:09.000Yeah, they have the recipe for the burger from Red Robin.
00:41:13.000And so they will make it right there on the spot.
00:41:15.000And then they'll box it, bag it, and then it's waiting to be picked up by a DoorDash driver.
00:41:22.000And the only employee that would be needed is to transfer it from point A into the car.1.00
00:41:27.000Now, here's the black pill we're going to have robot Ubers, we're going to have robot DoorDash, we're going to probably have robot making the food in these kitchens, but we'll still have the huge number of migrants that we shipped in.1.00
00:41:41.000Because we supposedly needed them to do all of this low wage labor.1.00
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00:43:03.000Did you guys hear what they're doing in Ohio right now with the Haitians, supposedly?
00:43:09.000Postmillennial says that has this up, and I haven't seen a video of it yet.
00:43:12.000I really have kind of been asking around for it.
00:43:15.000It says they're putting ankle monitors on the Haitians because they're so TPS has ended.
00:43:21.000So, they're putting ankle monitors on the Haitians, and I guess they're tracking them to make sure hey, if you haven't gone back yet, get them on the plane.
00:43:28.000Don't we have like 15% of Haiti living in America?
00:43:31.000I love a good Haitian ankle monitor.1.00
00:44:07.000Even the Save America Act, everybody's like, we need the Save America Act.
00:44:10.000I agree because we let in all these foreigners, but we really need to stop letting in all these foreigners.1.00
00:44:15.000I mean, it's really the really sad thing is it's sometimes pointed out.1.00
00:44:18.000I think this was pointed out during Lindsey Graham's funeral where he said, you know, he kept going, getting higher and higher and thinking, like, who's really in charge of things?
00:44:25.000And then you discover no one's in charge.
00:44:28.000And I think immigration is a lot like that.
00:44:29.000Like, you think there's someone deep in the system who's thought about, okay, yeah, we're letting all of these immigrants, but this is going to have demographic effects and wage effects.0.81
00:44:39.000And, you know, it's going to have this impact on the country, but it's worth it for this cynical or manipulative reason.0.99
00:44:43.000And then, actually, the truth is they're all dumb and they don't understand what they're doing.0.97
00:44:46.000So, what you literally have is you have business people who think, I need people to fill these jobs.0.99
00:44:51.000They don't think, well, what's the long term effect on this country?
00:44:55.000They don't think, are we importing a bunch of people who will vote for socialism and take my business away?
00:46:32.000Nothing black pills me like just seeing that the Chinese now have boring office cubicle environments where the Chinese guys are driving.1.00
00:46:40.000Their agricultural machines in an air conditioned room.1.00
00:47:16.000They get to determine how many visas they get and special visits.
00:47:19.000So you're taking it away from the federal government.
00:47:21.000Imagine how many visas you think, like Blue California, when they get to count all those people in the census for apportionment and for federal grants, are going to let in.
00:47:32.000And then you've got the Supreme Court that gives them all birthright citizenship if they drop a baby off here.0.74
00:47:59.000I mean, this is a take of a lot of people is basically like, we need to have these bottom rung jobs and our lives will be worse as a result.
00:48:06.000His take is that he wants to ban self driving semi trucks, right?
00:48:40.000There's literally going to be a massive drone that will fly to the ports of Long Beach and it will pick up a storage container that has to be delivered to Scottsdale, Arizona, and it will fly adjacent to the freeway, and it will just go, and it'll be.
00:49:36.000He ended up backing their play to make sure it's still manned and it's not all robotic and stuff like that.0.99
00:49:43.000So, number one, we have enough problems with trucks on the road right now because of all the migrants that have been given these trucking contracts and trucking licenses who obviously shouldn't have them.1.00
00:49:56.000They're getting them from diploma mills.1.00
00:50:05.000But I think it's something you got to be very, very careful with in terms of technology.
00:50:10.000And at the same time, we know that if you don't have a college degree, that driving a truck is one of the fastest ways that you can get on your feet.
00:50:19.000And we tell people to pull themselves up by their bootstraps.
00:50:22.000Driving a truck is a great way to actually do that.
00:50:25.000And then when you turn around and say, oh, but, you know, also we should allow that industry to be destroyed, it's like, what are we doing, guys?
00:50:33.000Well, okay, but then we could do it far more easily.
00:50:36.000And we could say we could have unlimited jobs for them.
00:51:03.000What it's so, and this is what the technology is now.
00:51:06.000Like, imagine the technology five years, but that's driving it that is totally different from driving a semi.
00:51:11.000Plus, by the way, making the deliveries at every place that you have to pull up to, uh, you've got parking, you've got a regular, you know, it parks loading docks and all sorts of things.
00:51:21.000I just think that it parks that's cool.
00:51:24.000And I know a lot of people who have Teslas that do it as well.
00:51:26.000And I'm not knocking it, I'm just saying that a semi is like it's it's like an entirely different category.
00:51:31.000How many road accident deaths do you think the U.S. has in a given year?
00:52:14.000I think it's going to, I think it'll end up being fine.
00:52:17.000But also, like, there's going to, you're going to have like a, you're not going to buy a robot that can, like, cook and clean for you in your house.
00:52:27.000And then also, like, I know a guy who owns one of the companies that I was just talking about earlier that makes it more of a cowboy hat.
00:52:35.000It makes the food in these massive warehouses, and then DoorDashers will come pick it up.
00:52:39.000I know a guy that owns and operates like a massive company like that.
00:52:42.000He told me, he's like, by the time your kid is like 13 years old, every single one of his meals will come from a warehouse, and it'll be healthier, cheaper, and better.
00:52:52.000And I was like, I don't know if I like that.
00:53:23.000So, let's say you wanted to put on music for your kid.
00:53:26.000Even 25, 30 years ago, that means you pull out the CD or you pull out of the cassette tape, you put it into this machine, you make sure the machine is working right, and it starts playing.
00:53:37.000You want to send photos of your kid to family members.
00:53:40.00030 years ago, you literally print out a photo, which you probably had to go to a shop to get, and then you put it in an envelope, and you pull out a pen, and you write on that envelope, and you mail it to somebody.
00:53:50.000Now, you push some buttons on your smartphone.
00:54:20.000I was just going to say, I completely agree with you, Blake.
00:54:22.000And that's why I think we need to be careful about all these things.
00:54:26.000And also, this is where socialist revolutions come from.
00:54:30.000Just like I was talking about before, the Industrial Revolution led.
00:54:33.000To the Bolshevik Revolution because it was the Industrial Revolution.
00:54:36.000And on the back of that, so much economic upheaval, which is kind of what we're talking about now, and what Mikey, what your friend, I think our mutual friend, was chatting about.
00:55:46.000I think about how easily people accept things that I think are actually not great, like the degree where they 100% outsource parenting to a screen.
00:56:03.000I just think there's a whole movement against that because, at least in my friend group that have kids, I mean, everybody's trying to limit screen time as much as possible and trying to keep kids active.
00:56:13.000I mean, maybe we're the exception, not the rule.
00:56:17.000But where this is really going, which is the question, is that Elon Musk is talking about UBI.
00:56:25.000And he's talking about the only people that will work in the future are people that want to work, and everybody else will be living on a universal basic income.
00:57:11.000And I was like, well, how do you fix it?
00:57:12.000He's like, honestly, like UBI is the simplest, quickest fix.
00:57:16.000But then you just have a bunch of people suckling off the teat of the, you know, private companies and government that laid them off.
00:57:22.000They have it in Alaska, though, as the closest example.
00:57:24.000Revolutionary stuff is not coming from people who are in blue collar jobs who are like worried about AI replacing them.
00:57:33.000The biggest source of like true like democrat, like DSA radicalism, that stuff, it's coming from people who actually have like normal jobs in a lot of places,
00:57:45.000but they kind of wish they had like $120,000 a year email jobs or something.
00:57:50.000Look at who's voting for guys like El Sayed.0.99
00:57:52.000It's Affluent white people and third worlders.1.00
00:57:55.000Yeah, well, affluent, they sell affluent, but often the windows are like a group that really predicts voting for DSA, like 95% level, is like people who have PhDs and then they make between $30,000 and $60,000 a year.0.97
00:58:10.000Which two people making $60,000 a year, if you're a couple, is actually a perfectly livable income.
00:58:15.000But it feels like, especially if you have a PhD, they often aspire to higher.
00:58:20.000And there's a lot of anger that comes from that, a lot of resentment from that.
00:58:24.000Those people are usually not at risk of long term unemployment.
00:58:27.000But they do feel like they feel lower status than they should be, and that drives a lot of rage.
00:58:34.000And you saw that, I mean, with the Bolshevik Revolution, the people leading the Bolshevik Revolution were not literal laborers, it was like extremely angry lower elites, like the sons of clergymen, the sons of professors, in some cases, the sons of nobility.
00:59:01.000And so that's where Lennon comes from.
00:59:02.000And of course, it's parodied very well in Animal Farm, the original version, not the new version.
00:59:09.000And, you know, but at the same time, it does grab purchase.
00:59:14.000And all of these things do end up finding their ways into their homes.
00:59:20.000And by the way, this is why, you know, the Midwest, which has been a heavily unionized area, heavily blue collar unionized area, is now being the test bed.
00:59:42.000Well, I don't know that we got anywhere here other than the fact that I'm right.1.00
00:59:46.000It's dumb to ignore the problems of young people.1.00
00:59:49.000We are going to ignore the problems of young people.1.00
00:59:51.000I still think you're a lunatic for tipping at Chipotle.1.00
00:59:55.000You tip at a sit down restaurant, you can tip at a bar, but if you are just going up to a cash register and giving them money and receiving food in return, it is weird to tip for that.0.99
01:00:12.000Kevin O'Leary, who made all of his money by destroying Oregon Trail and Carmen San Diego, not through a war crime against Gen Y, by the way.
01:00:24.000And not actually being productive in society.
01:02:03.000But what we need to do is we need to be messaging to young people and saying, you know, to quote Bill Clinton, I feel your pain and I want to help.
01:02:11.000And we're going to be unleashing all this stuff.
01:02:13.000We're going to be working with first time homebuyers.
01:02:15.000We're going to be unleashing the free market to go build a lot of new homes for young people.1.00
01:02:19.000We're going to be deporting illegals that are stealing your homes.0.99
01:02:21.000We're going to police the streets so there's more safe neighborhoods you want to live.1.00
01:02:25.000Like, these are the solutions that we actually need to be bringing to bear.
01:02:29.000And we need to have our own message.0.60
01:02:31.000But I think, Jeff, I think that when you have people gloating over their wealth at a time of a K shaped economy, which is a lot more rich people are getting rich and a lot more poor people in the middle are getting poorer, the timing is potentially problematic.0.99
01:02:47.000So I actually think both can be right.0.94
01:04:29.000Well, I would say though, it's so I'm sure Elon spends more money than Kevin O'Leary, but also Elon is famous for being fastidious, right?
01:04:38.000So he's famous for like having a one bedroom apartment and he sold all of his houses.
01:04:45.000You know, he's a trillionaire, but he doesn't live like no, he does have his private jet, which he uses to go around and conduct his operations.
01:04:51.000But he doesn't, he's not like on TV talking about weeping over a two million dollar gold watch, right?
01:04:59.000Right, because you know, and envy is one of the deadly sins, and so is greed.
01:05:03.000He makes things, he also bought Twitter now.
01:05:06.000X that was he did it for, I mean, which is a public good about how we need better, it's a national good.
01:05:11.000You're always going to have elites, you're always going to have the Matthew principle, yeah.
01:05:15.000You know, some people just really accelerate and they do a lot of really good things, and their wealth is going to accelerate behind them.
01:05:22.000What we want to do is we want to make sure that they're in.
01:05:25.000I think of it in terms of investments and incentives, and maybe that's taxes, maybe that's grants, whatever.
01:05:31.000But you want to incentivize capital, you don't want to outlaw people doing free market stuff, but you want to incentivize good movements.
01:05:39.000So I love this when Trump was like, Okay, car companies, you're going to move your manufacturing facility to Mexico, and we're going to lose all these jobs out of Detroit.
01:05:58.000This goes all the way back to 2016, how we used to always talk about this.
01:06:01.000And so it's this idea of like an international capital system versus, you know, you asked me the other day on the show, you know, like, well, do you believe in capitalism?
01:06:15.000And I guess the way you would combine it is just say like a national capitalism, right?
01:06:20.000So, the idea of where you support the free market, but you also have borders, you have an identity, you have heritage, you have a country at the same time, and that we're not pushing these things at the dearth or to the damage of our country.0.98
01:06:37.000Joshua Lysak sitting there with like 15,000 Haitians over in Ohio right now.1.00
01:08:14.000Examples where it's been successful, I mean, this is dark to say.
01:08:17.000Examples where it's been successful, it's often worked in authoritarian countries where you have an authoritarian guy who can basically sabotage any attempt to make it a political racket.
01:08:27.000So if you're South Korea, did pretty successful protectionism.
01:08:31.000And what they had to do is, for example, they say, we want to develop a car industry in Korea.
01:08:36.000And one of the things that they do under their autocracy is they say, we're training you so that you can be an export market to other countries.
01:08:43.000So we're not We're basically not going to let you just cater to the Korean market.
01:08:49.000And if you're not good at it, we're going to cut this off.
01:08:51.000And you basically have to really use it to protect your industry, but if you're using it to just protect it from its own failures, as opposed to just protect it enough to grow and become competitive, and it can't be sabotaged or dumped or overwhelmed by a richer foreign competitor,
01:09:27.000Yeah, you're protecting an obsolete business that shouldn't get by.
01:09:30.000But that's why you want a lot of competition domestically as well.
01:09:34.000So, like, basically, if you're doing protectionism, it should be for the sake of allowing you to build up an industry that is then globally competitive.
01:09:44.000And that is what China has been successful at, that is what Korea has been successful at.
01:09:49.000But if you want, I mean, there are plenty of countries where they just sell this until Nord Stream got blown up.
01:09:53.000A lot of this until Nord Stream got blown up.0.99
01:09:54.000They just sell it to their local company that is useless and the product is garbage and you're forced to buy this garbage product.0.99
01:13:16.000It is today, specifically today, is the one year anniversary of I think one of our fondest memories, all of us, which is Charlie got a South Park episode about him.
01:15:41.000We actually beat the boys four to nothing, you know.
01:15:43.000You can whine about American oppression all you want, but you're using an iPhone made by the free market to complain about a system that gave it to you.
01:15:48.000Girls have it way easy in America, and that's just the truth.1.00
01:16:28.000You just hate America and you love abortions.0.98
01:16:31.000You just hate America and you love abortions.
01:16:34.000Yeah, this is the reaction on Thought Grime after that.1.00
01:16:37.000It's the stupidest haircut I've ever seen.1.00
01:16:42.000First of all, I just think it's hilarious.1.00
01:16:43.000And secondly, the whole thing is like wait, so a campus thing I've been doing for 13 years to debate random college kids has now been so important that it gets prominent primetime placement on Comedy Central.
01:16:58.000I think the whole thing is just awesome and hilarious.
01:17:01.000There's so much more I want to say about this.
01:17:03.000But the whole shtick, by the way Comedy Central, South Park, you crushed the water.
01:18:05.000I have my arguments down rock solid.1.00
01:18:07.000These young college girls are totally unprepared, so I can just destroy them and also edit out all the ones that actually argue back well.0.96
01:18:49.000At one point in another clip, we'll show it.
01:18:51.000He literally starts taking the lid off, and before he can get a drink in, he sets it back down and grabs the mic and shuts down the person he's debating with, which you do all the time, where you're almost going to take a drink.
01:19:02.000And then you set it down to get your point in.
01:19:06.000Putting down the mic in between the question.
01:20:30.000He's always right, and I love the catchphrase right there you know, you hate America and you love abortion.
01:20:37.000It's like he's got the holy Bible next to him and some couple bottles of water.
01:20:40.000I'm like, man, if you want to just distill like all of Charlie Kirk down in one sentence, it's like you hate America and you love abortion.0.67
01:20:48.000It's so good, it was the funniest line.0.99
01:20:51.000Shut up, baby, because you hate America and love abortion.1.00
01:22:13.000All right, it goes to show though, and I mean, this is needless to say that what we have done has really permeated the culture, I think, more so than we even realize at times, right?
01:22:26.000As the actual, I mean, we know it's big, we know it's broad, we know it's impactful, but I will join you in that, Charlie.
01:22:33.000I have no wish I would have shut up there and not.
01:23:15.000Every time I look at it, I'm just like, it's, it's, it's, yeah, it hits me about how much I miss him, but it's also like all of the plans that we were like in motion, you know,
01:23:27.000like all the different narratives and operations and memes and just, it all just stops.
01:26:14.000I am really thankful for this last year, and I miss Charlie so much.
01:26:22.000And watching those videos made me really miss him.
01:26:26.000And entering this episode, it was really fun to joke about burritos and stuff.
01:26:31.000Talk about all this stuff and make jokes and wear these hats and everything.
01:26:34.000But, like, it is crazy to sit in this studio and, like, just how much I miss him and, like, just seeing his smile and his laugh in those videos is, like, you know, the best we can do is just continue to, like,