The Charlie Kirk Show - A THOUGHTCRIME Thanksgiving

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00:00:47.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:01:45.000 Okay, everybody.

00:01:46.000 Hello.

00:01:47.000 It is Thought Crime Week.

00:01:49.000 It is Thanksgiving week.

00:01:51.000 And we are here.

00:01:52.000 By the way, the official uniform of Thought Crime this week is the Thanksgiving uniform.

00:01:57.000 I decided to go as Charlie Kirk for this Thanksgiving.

00:02:00.000 I didn't fully shave.

00:02:02.000 I might later.

00:02:03.000 And then, like, your hair thing where you do, like, the down-up.

00:02:06.000 It's like the down-up.

00:02:07.000 It's the natural colic.

00:02:08.000 It's like a Nike swoosh.

00:02:09.000 It is.

00:02:10.000 I have it trademarked.

00:02:12.000 Is that why you only wear Nikes?

00:02:13.000 I actually don't only wear Nikes, but I should.

00:02:17.000 So we also have Blake and Tyler as well.

00:02:19.000 What are they wearing?

00:02:20.000 Let's see.

00:02:20.000 Blake is probably wearing a t-shirt.

00:02:22.000 I'm wearing my turkey hat.

00:02:23.000 I believe this is a Kirkland shirt.

00:02:25.000 I don't actually have a Costco membership, but I'll be honest, my mother buys a lot of shirts for me.

00:02:30.000 I'm wearing my turkey hat, my Native American shawl.

00:02:34.000 I hear all you guys in there.

00:02:35.000 And then my Arizona State t-shirt because we're going to the Big Tall Championship unless things go awry on Saturday.

00:02:41.000 Well, maybe.

00:02:42.000 Hold on, Tyler.

00:02:43.000 You know the story of Arizona football.

00:02:45.000 Whatever is predictable.

00:02:46.000 Tyler knows this.

00:02:47.000 They will curse whatever inevitable path they have.

00:02:50.000 They mess it up.

00:02:52.000 It is an inevitability of Arizona State football.

00:02:54.000 I've got a front row seat, Charlie, on Saturday with my two brothers right behind Kenny Dilliham and down in Tucson. 0.99

00:03:03.000 This is a very dumb question. 0.98

00:03:05.000 Oh, you're going down to Tucson. 1.00

00:03:07.000 I'm going down to Tucson and front row seat.

00:03:11.000 I like Tucson.

00:03:12.000 It's going to be a miserable drive.

00:03:14.000 You do not know what you feel. 0.97

00:03:15.000 This is a dumb question, having never gone to an ASU football game. 0.95

00:03:18.000 Do they just suffer in complete agony for their first three home games of the season? 0.99

00:03:24.000 Because it's a trillion degrees out?

00:03:25.000 Oh, no, they do evenings.

00:03:26.000 They do them in the evenings.

00:03:28.000 It's still 95 degrees in Arizona.

00:03:30.000 It's a nice brisk 98. It's really nice.

00:03:33.000 But here's the factoid for everybody that's listening.

00:03:36.000 Arizona has the longest rivalry game in the country.

00:03:40.000 The Territorial Cup.

00:03:42.000 Between Arizona State and Arizona.

00:03:44.000 People don't believe it.

00:03:45.000 Look it up.

00:03:46.000 No way.

00:03:46.000 Oregon State has to be.

00:03:47.000 No.

00:03:48.000 Look it up.

00:03:49.000 Territorial Cup is the longest recognized NCAA football rivalry.

00:03:55.000 Longest played or longest uninterrupted?

00:03:55.000 See, now he's in.

00:03:56.000 Here come all the caveats.

00:03:58.000 Yale-Princeton goes back to 1873. No, it's the oldest.

00:04:01.000 It's the oldest.

00:04:02.000 Is it like the oldest that has a trophy for it?

00:04:04.000 How is it older than 1873?

00:04:06.000 Yale-Princeton is pretty...

00:04:08.000 I mean, Yale-Princeton was 1873. No, but the rivalry game.

00:04:11.000 I'm surprised it's not older than that.

00:04:13.000 Yale-Princeton is a rivalry game.

00:04:15.000 They hate each other.

00:04:16.000 You have to look up the territorial...

00:04:17.000 Montana, Montana State.

00:04:20.000 1897. That's pretty old.

00:04:21.000 We were before.

00:04:21.000 Illinois State, Eastern Illinois, 1901. Arizona wasn't even a state back then.

00:04:25.000 There couldn't be an Arizona state because there wasn't a state.

00:04:29.000 I'm looking online and it says the duel in the desert is just 1899 and there's many rivalries that are older than 1899. There's Michigan-Notre Dame, 1887. Duke, North Carolina, 1888. Guys, guys, it's the oldest one that Tyler knows about.

00:04:47.000 No, no, no.

00:04:47.000 Look, Google Territorial Cup.

00:04:50.000 Army-Navy game, 1890. I feel like the Army-Navy game is pretty old.

00:04:55.000 And they're still going.

00:04:58.000 Territorial Cup, the nation's oldest rivalry trophy.

00:05:01.000 Oh, this trophy.

00:05:03.000 You can't really have a cup without a trophy.

00:05:06.000 You can just spiritually have one.

00:05:09.000 That's it.

00:05:10.000 And that was territorial.

00:05:12.000 That's what's called a territorial cup.

00:05:13.000 Sounds like your territorial.

00:05:15.000 And Arizona State was the normal school.

00:05:17.000 And that was it.

00:05:18.000 Big time.

00:05:20.000 All right.

00:05:20.000 I'm not saying it's good football.

00:05:22.000 I'm just saying it's...

00:05:23.000 By the way, since it is a Thanksgiving Day episode, I wanted to flag that we have all something very important to be grateful for.

00:05:31.000 Remember Real Raw News?

00:05:32.000 Yeah, Arizona was 1912. You remember Real Raw News, America's only trustworthy news source?

00:05:37.000 Yes.

00:05:37.000 They have a breaking report today, just before Thanksgiving.

00:05:41.000 Special Forces have arrested Kamala Harris.

00:05:44.000 She has come back from a vacation in Hawaii, but they nabbed her.

00:05:50.000 According to the story, there were moles inside of her Secret Service detail, and they couldn't get her in Hawaii.

00:05:57.000 I guess Hawaii is like the deep state safe zone where they control things.

00:06:02.000 But they got her back to D.C., which is also a deep state safe zone, but not as safe.

00:06:07.000 And so they managed to take her into custody.

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00:06:15.000 I'm glad Real Raw News was able to get it.

00:06:18.000 Happy Thanksgiving, ladies and gentlemen.

00:06:21.000 I was worried that she might be out there making those greens. 0.96

00:06:23.000 So Tyler's half right.

00:06:24.000 It's the oldest trophy.

00:06:27.000 It's the oldest trophy.

00:06:29.000 That is legit.

00:06:31.000 So it is the oldest trophy.

00:06:33.000 The Territorial Cup.

00:06:35.000 It's pretty impressive for Arizona.

00:06:37.000 It doesn't sound like it's a trophy.

00:06:37.000 It sounds like it's a cup.

00:06:38.000 Nothing's older than it.

00:06:39.000 Yeah, he's right.

00:06:39.000 The Territorial Cup was created 125 years ago for the 1899 championship.

00:06:44.000 It's the oldest rivalry trophy in college football.

00:06:47.000 But what was the school even called before?

00:06:49.000 I don't know.

00:06:51.000 ASU was called the Normal School.

00:06:53.000 It was called the Normal School.

00:06:54.000 It was called Tempe.

00:06:55.000 It was literally called Tempe Normal.

00:06:57.000 Tempe Normal.

00:06:58.000 And Arizona.

00:06:59.000 Huh.

00:07:00.000 And that was called Arizona State Teachers.

00:07:02.000 The Territorial Cup is so old that it literally is like a cup.

00:07:06.000 It looks like a vase that you put flowers in.

00:07:09.000 I'm actually impressed that I thought no one lived in Arizona until like 1930. No, my ancestors were there.

00:07:15.000 It was literally just two football teams.

00:07:17.000 Prior to 1912, it was just two football teams.

00:07:22.000 It's remarkable.

00:07:23.000 And to go, you had to replace someone on the team.

00:07:26.000 Arizona's population in 1890 was 88,000 people.

00:07:32.000 When did your family move here?

00:07:34.000 We chased more than twice as many years.

00:07:36.000 65% of them were related to Tyler.

00:07:39.000 I'm a seventh generation in Arizona.

00:07:40.000 When did the oldest Boyer show up here?

00:07:43.000 It wasn't Boyer.

00:07:44.000 It was lambs and those people. 0.97

00:07:47.000 But it was the 1860s.

00:07:50.000 In 1860, the population of Arizona was 6,482 people.

00:07:56.000 That is OG. Second cousins with Sheriff Lamp.

00:07:59.000 Yep.

00:08:01.000 Man, now there's 6,000, there's like probably more than that within like a couple blocks of here.

00:08:08.000 Oh yeah, for sure.

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00:08:37.000 By the way, Blake could be a millionaire running Primal News as a spinoff of Real Raw News.

00:08:43.000 Because he understands that language so well.

00:08:45.000 We should just call it...

00:08:46.000 Is there a primal news?

00:08:47.000 I don't even want to see what that would be.

00:08:48.000 I don't think there is.

00:08:49.000 No, there's no primal news.

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00:09:28.000 Okay, guys, we have to talk about Thanksgiving.

00:09:31.000 Is it okay to eat steak on Thanksgiving?

00:09:35.000 I really worry...

00:09:36.000 Yes, but not if it's the only thing you eat on Thanksgiving.

00:09:38.000 No.

00:09:39.000 That's incorrect.

00:09:40.000 Incorrect.

00:09:40.000 Not allowed.

00:09:42.000 No.

00:09:42.000 You can have...

00:09:43.000 Tyler and I were discussing this.

00:09:44.000 You're saying not at all?

00:09:45.000 Not at all.

00:09:46.000 Not at all.

00:09:46.000 You can have...

00:09:47.000 You must have turkey.

00:09:48.000 It is required to have turkey.

00:09:51.000 You may have ham if it is supplementary to the turkey, but any meat you have should be from a central meat dispensing entity.

00:10:04.000 You cannot have individualized servings of meat.

00:10:08.000 That is my position on this.

00:10:10.000 So steak is not from a central meat dispensing entity?

00:10:13.000 No, you don't make a 50-pound steak and then take a piece of it and pass the giant super steak around.

00:10:21.000 Like, that's what you do with ham or turkey.

00:10:23.000 Like, you make the whole turkey or you make the whole ham, and then you, like, cut a little bit of it.

00:10:27.000 But you don't do that with steak.

00:10:29.000 No, but that's what I'm saying.

00:10:30.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:10:31.000 You can have a separate serving of a plate of steak for people.

00:10:35.000 You just...

00:10:36.000 Similar to the ham.

00:10:37.000 No, it's just wrong.

00:10:39.000 Like...

00:10:39.000 Because ham is...

00:10:41.000 Ham is, like, supplement to the turkey taste.

00:10:45.000 You have to have turkey and ham on your plate.

00:10:48.000 You don't need ham, though.

00:10:50.000 No, you don't need ham.

00:10:51.000 You have to have turkey.

00:10:52.000 No, no, no.

00:10:52.000 I'm a turkey purist.

00:10:53.000 But some people think that they can start to get really...

00:10:57.000 Now, Christmas is a completely different ballgame.

00:10:59.000 Totally.

00:10:59.000 There are no rules with Christmas.

00:11:00.000 Ham is usually center, but steak is acceptable.

00:11:03.000 You want the ham.

00:11:04.000 Yeah, but no, but still, Christmas is a whole...

00:11:06.000 Thanksgiving, it is un-American not to have either turkey...

00:11:11.000 Some sort of dressing.

00:11:13.000 Cranberries.

00:11:14.000 But here's the thing about the cranberry thing.

00:11:15.000 If you want to be an ultra-traditionalist, it must be straight out of the can, taken vertically with no adjustments.

00:11:22.000 And now if you want to have the cranberry...

00:11:24.000 Wait, is this some Chicago thing now?

00:11:26.000 Hold on.

00:11:27.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:11:29.000 And if you want to have cranberry with adjustments, that could be supplementary.

00:11:33.000 But, however, it must be out of the can, and you just take it vertically, and it just jiggles.

00:11:38.000 Walk me through your stuffing.

00:11:39.000 The stuffing is very interesting.

00:11:41.000 Okay.

00:11:41.000 Now, here's the big question.

00:11:43.000 Yes.

00:11:43.000 Does the stuffing go in the turkey, or is it prepared outside of the turkey?

00:11:46.000 Is that stuffing versus dressing?

00:11:48.000 Do you prepare it and then put it in, cook it with the turkey?

00:11:50.000 Or some people will prepare it and then just put it in for, like, the final lay.

00:11:53.000 See, that's a little...

00:11:55.000 You gotta go the full lanta.

00:11:58.000 So, dressing has to be, obviously, cornbread.

00:12:03.000 Yes.

00:12:04.000 Some sort of celeries and carrots.

00:12:06.000 Sure.

00:12:06.000 Sausage.

00:12:07.000 Need your crunch factor.

00:12:08.000 Little crunch.

00:12:09.000 Mix that all together.

00:12:11.000 But you know what makes the stuffing really kicker?

00:12:14.000 The gravy.

00:12:15.000 Yes.

00:12:15.000 And so, you need the gravy.

00:12:17.000 You have the stuffing.

00:12:18.000 You have the jiggling cranberry.

00:12:21.000 You got the turkey.

00:12:23.000 And that's all that's accepted.

00:12:24.000 And then maybe green beans and then sweet potatoes.

00:12:27.000 Green bean casserole.

00:12:27.000 How do you make the sweet potatoes?

00:12:28.000 No, no, no.

00:12:28.000 See, now we're getting to...

00:12:29.000 No, no, no.

00:12:30.000 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:12:31.000 What's the issue with green bean casserole?

00:12:33.000 I just...

00:12:34.000 It's not allowed.

00:12:35.000 What do you mean it's not allowed?

00:12:36.000 You're getting too cute.

00:12:36.000 Green bean casserole.

00:12:38.000 No, it's a staple.

00:12:39.000 It's a staple.

00:12:40.000 It's a total staple.

00:12:41.000 With the...

00:12:42.000 No, no, with those little crunchy things on top.

00:12:43.000 The fried onions.

00:12:45.000 No, no, no.

00:12:46.000 I like...

00:12:46.000 What?

00:12:46.000 I like the long, uninterrupted, unblemished...

00:12:50.000 Green beans.

00:12:51.000 With butter?

00:12:52.000 With butter.

00:12:52.000 Yeah.

00:12:52.000 That's good, though.

00:12:53.000 No, those are good, too, but that's not green bean casserole.

00:12:55.000 I never said casserole.

00:12:56.000 The casserole is a...

00:12:57.000 No, we are saying casserole is a staple.

00:12:59.000 It's an absolute Thanksgiving staple.

00:13:01.000 I don't think it's a staple.

00:13:03.000 100%.

00:13:03.000 And then, let me think what else.

00:13:05.000 Okay, yes, then the sweet potatoes.

00:13:07.000 Sure.

00:13:08.000 But none of this marshmallow stuff.

00:13:09.000 You see, this is new age, and it's a mistake.

00:13:12.000 We're all of a sudden... - We're going full trad.

00:13:14.000 It's a mixture of...

00:13:16.000 It's like 1950s Thanksgiving.

00:13:18.000 Right.

00:13:18.000 That's why it's like the...

00:13:19.000 No, no, no.

00:13:20.000 I'm saying no marshmallows.

00:13:21.000 No, no, no marshmallows.

00:13:22.000 The marshmallow thing is a disgrace.

00:13:24.000 Well, Charlie, hold on a second, though, because there is one thing...

00:13:28.000 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:13:28.000 There is one thing, one dish, that we know for a fact was served at the original Thanksgiving, Charlie.

00:13:34.000 You know where I'm going with this.

00:13:35.000 Smallpox?

00:13:36.000 No, no, no, Charlie.

00:13:38.000 Not what we served.

00:13:39.000 What was served to us.

00:13:40.000 Oh, got it.

00:13:42.000 Corn.

00:13:42.000 Oh, see, no, no, no.

00:13:44.000 Corn was served at the original Thanksgiving, Charlie.

00:13:47.000 The only corn that is acceptable is cornbread, I will say.

00:13:49.000 You have to bend the knee to the corn god, and cornbread has to be either the dressing, the stuffing.

00:13:53.000 Do you agree, Tyler?

00:13:54.000 Well, long-time thought time listeners will remember that Charlie is like...

00:13:59.000 Blake radicalized me against the corn god.

00:14:01.000 He's an anti-cornite. 0.96

00:14:02.000 I think corn has no redemptive value, unless it is for Thanksgiving, because then it is a sacrament to Squanto. 0.89

00:14:09.000 No, corn is good in the summertime.

00:14:12.000 We eat the corn on Thanksgiving to show our thanks that the angry corn god has not destroyed us.

00:14:17.000 Whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:14:18.000 Corn on the cob is summer.

00:14:21.000 This is exactly right.

00:14:22.000 I forgot the corn god's name in there.

00:14:24.000 No, no, we're not talking about corn on the cob.

00:14:25.000 We're talking about corn elements.

00:14:27.000 Cornbread, for example.

00:14:28.000 Cornbread is great.

00:14:29.000 Even Charlie Kirk, the chief anti-corn.

00:14:34.000 Wow, this is huge.

00:14:35.000 This is big.

00:14:36.000 Let's be very clear.

00:14:37.000 Thanksgiving is not about what you want to do.

00:14:40.000 It is what your ancestors did.

00:14:44.000 It's about what you must do.

00:14:47.000 No, that's what I'm saying.

00:14:47.000 It's not about...

00:14:48.000 I don't care about it.

00:14:49.000 If you don't like cranberries, you don't like turkeys, suck it up.

00:14:51.000 It's Thanksgiving.

00:14:52.000 There is no...

00:14:53.000 This modernity, like, I'm going to put...

00:14:57.000 Tanya will not eat turkey.

00:14:59.000 It doesn't matter.

00:15:00.000 She'll make it.

00:15:00.000 She won't eat it.

00:15:01.000 Figure it out.

00:15:01.000 She won't eat it.

00:15:02.000 So here in Arizona...

00:15:02.000 I don't know what to tell you.

00:15:04.000 I completely agree with Charlie.

00:15:05.000 I think the canned cranberry is a must on the table.

00:15:11.000 However...

00:15:12.000 You have to have...

00:15:13.000 Boom! 0.99

00:15:13.000 You have to have a second... 0.99

00:15:14.000 In Arizona, we have jalapeno cranberries.

00:15:18.000 Incredible.

00:15:19.000 If you haven't had it...

00:15:20.000 Now you're regionalizing this too much.

00:15:22.000 No, it's good.

00:15:23.000 Jalapeno cranberries.

00:15:24.000 No, no, no.

00:15:24.000 It adds a little spice.

00:15:26.000 It's just a little bit.

00:15:27.000 It's like when I went to the Grand Canyon last summer and I discovered that I guess they just sell like prickly pear everything at every Arizona.

00:15:33.000 Oh, yeah.

00:15:34.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:15:36.000 That's anywhere in Arizona, really.

00:15:38.000 So I have a question for everybody, though.

00:15:41.000 And this is getting deep into the weeds.

00:15:43.000 So we talked about stuffing or dressing.

00:15:46.000 Moist stuffing or dry stuffing?

00:15:50.000 It's got to be dry, but the gravy makes it moist.

00:15:52.000 If you make it too moist, you can always make it more moist.

00:15:56.000 It has to be on the spectrum of tilt moist, but not too much.

00:16:02.000 Because if it's too dry, then it's just too brittle.

00:16:06.000 And brittle, there's nothing worse than brittle dressing.

00:16:08.000 Do you call it dressing or stuffing?

00:16:11.000 I'm noticing that you call it dressing.

00:16:12.000 It should be stuffing, however, I've been corrected many times.

00:16:15.000 I've always called it stuffing, even though it's not technically stuffing unless it's within the turkey.

00:16:20.000 Yes.

00:16:21.000 Dressing's outside the turkey, stuffing's inside.

00:16:23.000 No, it's not.

00:16:24.000 No, I grew up calling it stuffing, even though we never put it in the turkey.

00:16:28.000 No, but it's the, I mean, I get that, but the type of food would be called still stuffing.

00:16:32.000 Dressing is like for salads.

00:16:34.000 No.

00:16:34.000 No, no, no.

00:16:35.000 Dressing is outside.

00:16:37.000 It's cooked in its own tray.

00:16:39.000 No, I reject that completely.

00:16:41.000 For me, stuffing is like a type of food, and it should be used to stuffing it, but it is still stuffing, even if it's not doing the stuffing.

00:16:48.000 Dressing is outside where we don't use the name properly, but we still call it that because it used to be done that way.

00:16:54.000 I'm excited for Thanksgiving at this point.

00:16:55.000 This is great.

00:16:56.000 So people know we're pre-taping this.

00:16:59.000 Yeah, ahead of.

00:16:59.000 We are, today is, we are on Tuesday.

00:17:03.000 We blew off Thanksgiving.

00:17:05.000 We're supposed to be eating right now.

00:17:07.000 Yeah.

00:17:08.000 Yeah.

00:17:09.000 So now let's now go to the more fundamental question.

00:17:12.000 Okay.

00:17:13.000 Dessert.

00:17:14.000 Okay?

00:17:15.000 Because that really is what...

00:17:17.000 Do you need a set...

00:17:18.000 Well, for me, I mean, if I have...

00:17:20.000 All right, go ahead.

00:17:21.000 No, no, you go.

00:17:22.000 I have at times, and my mom knows this, I have left the house, gone to the store, and purchased the ingredients for pumpkin pie and brought it home and made it myself because there was no pumpkin pie available.

00:17:36.000 It is required.

00:17:38.000 Oh, I completely agree.

00:17:39.000 It is like the first commandment of Thanksgiving is, thou shall have pumpkin pie with whipped cream.

00:17:47.000 It is a non-negotiable.

00:17:49.000 If it's not there, like, I got up, I got in my car, I was like, I'm just gonna go.

00:17:53.000 Now, Ryan asks a really good question.

00:17:55.000 Is Thanksgiving meal a lunch or a dinner?

00:17:58.000 The answer is around 3.30 to 4 p.m.

00:18:01.000 That is the sweet spot.

00:18:03.000 Right as the sun is going down in Chicago, boom, you sit down, right?

00:18:06.000 That is way too late.

00:18:08.000 It is itself its own meal.

00:18:11.000 That's way too late.

00:18:12.000 You do it, I would say, Neff family tradition is maybe 1 to 1.30 p.m.

00:18:19.000 Ah, it's so early.

00:18:20.000 That's super early.

00:18:21.000 What are you doing?

00:18:22.000 Half time of the second football game.

00:18:25.000 When are you going to sleep?

00:18:26.000 Half time of the second football game.

00:18:27.000 Like five?

00:18:28.000 Yeah, you gotta smell it.

00:18:29.000 The first football game is the Lions.

00:18:32.000 The Cowboys are always second.

00:18:33.000 We have a tradition in our house.

00:18:35.000 Halftime at Cowboys, we get seated.

00:18:37.000 Because we're cheering that the Cowboys will lose.

00:18:39.000 Yes.

00:18:40.000 Well, that's good, but that's just way too...

00:18:43.000 We're in Philadelphia, so...

00:18:44.000 Way too late.

00:18:45.000 We share that tradition as well.

00:18:48.000 Oh, TV's off during the meal.

00:18:50.000 TV's in the room.

00:18:51.000 TV's off, yeah.

00:18:54.000 I greatly dislike the TV sanctification of Thanksgiving.

00:19:00.000 I don't know.

00:19:00.000 I would watch...

00:19:02.000 I would consider it...

00:19:03.000 If the Packers are on, I would watch the Packers.

00:19:06.000 But I do not consider it essential to watch.

00:19:08.000 Now there's three games on Thanksgiving.

00:19:10.000 Well, we usually have like...

00:19:12.000 No, this is true.

00:19:12.000 There has been a desecration.

00:19:14.000 It used to be only two games.

00:19:15.000 And it was on Fox.

00:19:17.000 It would be the Lions, who used to be bad, and now they're good.

00:19:20.000 And actually, who do they play this week?

00:19:22.000 Let me see.

00:19:22.000 I bet it's actually a pretty good lineup.

00:19:24.000 And then it was the Cowboys, but now NBC got greedy, because it was Fox had their game, CBS had their game, and then NBC got greedy, and they snuck in their own.

00:19:34.000 So is that this week?

00:19:35.000 No.

00:19:35.000 Okay, let me see here.

00:19:36.000 What do we got?

00:19:36.000 We got a new week of football.

00:19:38.000 Okay, there's three games.

00:19:39.000 Oh, Blake, you're in luck!

00:19:41.000 Yeah, I know.

00:19:42.000 I know.

00:19:43.000 It's the evening game, too.

00:19:44.000 The Dolphins are visiting Lambeau.

00:19:46.000 Okay, I'm going to be watching that.

00:19:47.000 Oh, and Chicago plays on Thanksgiving.

00:19:50.000 Oh, wow. 0.88

00:19:50.000 They're going to get annihilated. 0.88

00:19:52.000 They're going to die. 1.00

00:19:55.000 At Detroit. 0.88

00:19:56.000 By the way, you can tell who's having a better season.

00:19:59.000 Tickets start at Ford Field for $181.

00:20:02.000 Tickets start at Jerry Stademan, $28.

00:20:05.000 Yeah, my son asked me the other day, because he saw when we went to the Eagles game, and he was all jealous that we went.

00:20:11.000 And so he was like, oh, Daddy, give me some Eagles tickets.

00:20:14.000 We'll go.

00:20:14.000 And so we looked up the ones for Thanksgiving weekend, and I was like, I got to sell a lot more pillows.

00:20:19.000 Yeah.

00:20:19.000 Like, Eagles tickets right now are, it was, $500 was, like, the highest nosebleed.

00:20:25.000 311 is where they start at.

00:20:27.000 Insane.

00:20:27.000 Yeah, this weekend.

00:20:28.000 You're seeing, what, 311?

00:20:29.000 And that's in Baltimore.

00:20:30.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:20:30.000 But Baltimore's so close, you're basically, you're basically in the same.

00:20:33.000 Philly light, right?

00:20:33.000 Yeah, you're pretty much in, I mean, it's like 90 minutes, you know, the way I drive, it's 90 minutes.

00:20:37.000 Okay, so now that we have developed something...

00:20:40.000 By the way, by the way, I don't want to throw my mom under the bus because every single year, and I know she's going to watch this, every single year post that, there's like a selection of pumpkin pies that is always available.

00:20:50.000 That's the way it must be.

00:20:51.000 By the way, do you think that pecan pie can also make an appearance?

00:20:54.000 Of course.

00:20:55.000 Other pies can be there, but pumpkin is the only one.

00:20:58.000 No, pecan pie, I actually prefer more than pumpkin pie.

00:21:00.000 However, I must have a slice of pumpkin pie first.

00:21:03.000 Wait, wait, wait.

00:21:03.000 Were you always like that, though?

00:21:05.000 When you were little- My mom makes a killer pecan pie.

00:21:09.000 Okay.

00:21:09.000 Like, destroys the world.

00:21:11.000 Okay.

00:21:12.000 What about- It's so good.

00:21:13.000 So when I was younger, I was always pumpkin, but then pecan pie- Well, now we're getting into chocolate pecan pie, and that's where you just surrender.

00:21:21.000 You're just done at that point.

00:21:23.000 So you throw, because guys, folks who don't know, Charlie, you're usually pretty strict with your diet.

00:21:28.000 Pretty strict.

00:21:29.000 No, no, no, but Thanksgiving's different.

00:21:32.000 Thanksgiving, you go all in, and it is a holy day.

00:21:36.000 By the way, I think Thanksgiving's one of America's greatest traditions.

00:21:39.000 It is.

00:21:39.000 Because it's a day just to give thanks.

00:21:41.000 I think it's uniquely awesome.

00:21:43.000 Talk about that for a little bit because there's, you know, a lot of people say, well, it's, you know, it's just about the, you know, it's the Indians, it's the pilgrims.

00:21:50.000 Well, everything is what you make of it, right?

00:21:52.000 Who cares?

00:21:52.000 There's no God involved.

00:21:54.000 Why do you say it fully?

00:21:55.000 Well, no, first of all, the pilgrims were definitely giving thanks to God.

00:21:57.000 They were?

00:21:57.000 They were not giving, you know, thanks to Brahman.

00:22:00.000 They're giving thanks to the Almighty God.

00:22:03.000 But yeah, secondly, I just think it's amazing, especially during this season where we have such abundance and we won the election, that there's a day where you just stop and you say thank you, which then of course acknowledges you're saying thank you to a higher power.

00:22:14.000 And I don't know of another nation or another country that has a day of gratitude.

00:22:19.000 I think I actually said this once and I guess there was like some random African country that has it and that's fine. 0.99

00:22:24.000 I got like in trouble for saying this last year.

00:22:26.000 Okay, so fine.

00:22:27.000 I guess Senegal has a day like that.

00:22:29.000 I'll look it up.

00:22:30.000 Great job, Senegal!

00:22:31.000 Or whatever.

00:22:33.000 Following in some good footsteps.

00:22:34.000 But a day of gratitude.

00:22:36.000 I subscribe to the Prager.

00:22:38.000 Hopefully he's doing better.

00:22:39.000 He's fighting like crazy right now.

00:22:41.000 Belief, he's really struggling.

00:22:42.000 That happiness is impossible if you are not grateful.

00:22:45.000 And I believe that.

00:22:46.000 I do not think you can have joy.

00:22:47.000 I do not think you can be content if you are not grateful.

00:22:49.000 And I think it's a beautiful thing as a nation.

00:22:51.000 We have a day to say thank you.

00:22:52.000 Shout out to the OG who always told us the true story of Thanksgiving, Rush Limbaugh.

00:22:56.000 Oh, man.

00:22:57.000 He was an OG on that.

00:22:58.000 He just did it every year.

00:23:00.000 I've got a recording of it somewhere.

00:23:02.000 We used to play it.

00:23:04.000 I've got to re-listen that.

00:23:05.000 It's so good.

00:23:06.000 Send that to me now.

00:23:07.000 I've got to try to recreate it.

00:23:09.000 I did something on the show last year where I sort of like...

00:23:12.000 I didn't try to do it, like rushed it, but I told the story.

00:23:16.000 And people just have to keep telling that story over and over.

00:23:19.000 They tried socialism.

00:23:20.000 It failed.

00:23:21.000 Then they tried giving people ownership of their various plots of land.

00:23:26.000 And then they had an overabundance of their harvest.

00:23:31.000 And so they gave thanks to God.

00:23:35.000 What a concept.

00:23:36.000 What an incredible concept. 1.00

00:23:38.000 But instead, now it's all like, oh, the Pilgrims were dying, and the Indians had to come, and they saved the Pilgrims because they were stupid Europeans, didn't know anything. 0.97

00:23:46.000 Even though Squanto had actually lived in Europe, he had been in London more recently than the Pilgrims had. 0.97

00:23:54.000 So he spoke English so well, but of course, you know, facts are, you know.

00:23:57.000 Blake, you were saying something.

00:23:58.000 Well, so first of all, I was saying we should make fun of Canada for having their knockoff Thanksgiving.

00:24:03.000 That is just one month before ours.

00:24:05.000 I think we should always seize every opportunity to bully Canada because it's fun.

00:24:12.000 But also, even the full story of Thanksgiving, because evil liberals always want to dunk on it.

00:24:18.000 It's even more beautiful than just the pilgrims doing it when they settled here.

00:24:23.000 Like, the very first, like, annual Thanksgiving national holiday, fourth Thursday in November, like, clockwork.

00:24:31.000 That was started by Abraham Lincoln in 1863. Yep.

00:24:34.000 Middle of the Civil War, the peak of the Civil War.

00:24:37.000 I think that's probably the bloodiest year of the Civil War.

00:24:40.000 And he says, yes, like, in the middle of this, we're going to have a celebration of national Thanksgiving.

00:24:45.000 And, like, that was what set it as a national holiday.

00:24:49.000 George Washington declared a day of Thanksgiving.

00:24:51.000 It's...

00:24:52.000 Truly, you know, it's a great thing because it is possibly the one great national tradition that was created in America that we have had for the entire history of America that is just totally our own thing.

00:25:07.000 And then us being America, we have exported it to the rest of the world in various ways. 0.54

00:25:11.000 Someone was very shocked to learn.

00:25:12.000 I was talking to a foreigner who was like, wasn't Black Friday this week?

00:25:16.000 No.

00:25:17.000 No, Black Friday is this week.

00:25:19.000 And it's kind of terrible.

00:25:20.000 Now we...

00:25:22.000 I used to be a Black Friday person, but now I'm done.

00:25:25.000 It's awful.

00:25:26.000 It's just so awful.

00:25:27.000 And it's not even Black Friday anymore, because Black Friday...

00:25:31.000 Well, Charlie, given everything that you just said about the importance of Thanksgiving, what do you think about the people who leave Thanksgiving dinner early to go and start shopping?

00:25:39.000 First of all, I totally...

00:25:42.000 When I grew up, it was actually Black Friday.

00:25:45.000 Yeah.

00:25:45.000 Now it's like Black Thursday evening.

00:25:47.000 Right.

00:25:48.000 And it's not like you start lining up.

00:25:50.000 The sales actually begin.

00:25:51.000 It's actually interesting.

00:25:52.000 For younger listeners that don't know, after so many people got trampled in the Walmart raids because people would line up, they keep the stores open.

00:26:01.000 Right.

00:26:01.000 They don't close them and reopen them.

00:26:03.000 Because it used to be that Walmart would close and then you'd line up and you'd go.

00:26:07.000 And then all the deals and the sales would be set and then people would get trampled so much.

00:26:10.000 I think someone almost died and they got hospitalized and there were tons of lawsuits.

00:26:13.000 No, people did die.

00:26:13.000 This is the plot of that.

00:26:15.000 Did people die?

00:26:16.000 Is that right?

00:26:16.000 I didn't know that.

00:26:16.000 Yeah, people died.

00:26:17.000 People got ran over.

00:26:18.000 If you watch that Thanksgiving...

00:26:19.000 I didn't know they died.

00:26:21.000 There's that Thanksgiving horror movie.

00:26:23.000 This is actually the plot where people get killed and then someone's getting revenge on the people who started the stampede.

00:26:31.000 So, I had no problem with, like, you have a really, really good Thanksgiving, and then you want to get good deals on stuff.

00:26:37.000 And I think that was fine.

00:26:38.000 It was like a good kickoff to the Christmas season.

00:26:40.000 But, and it used to be, when I grew up, there was a grittiness to Black Friday.

00:26:46.000 It took real spirit.

00:26:49.000 So you have to understand, I grew up in Chicago.

00:26:52.000 It would always be like sub-20 degrees.

00:26:55.000 And if you wanted to get a Black Friday deal, you had to earn it.

00:26:58.000 So you had to like leave with your family at like 10 p.m.

00:27:01.000 after all that turkey's full.

00:27:02.000 And you like stood in line at Target from the open their doors at 1201. Yeah.

00:27:06.000 Right?

00:27:06.000 And you would like shop all night and you would like get 7-Eleven coffee and get home by like 5 a.m.

00:27:14.000 and you felt like I earned this deal.

00:27:16.000 And it was like a sense of accomplishment.

00:27:18.000 You know what I mean?

00:27:19.000 And you had to have, there was like a limit to what you could get.

00:27:22.000 Of course!

00:27:23.000 And it was very narrow.

00:27:25.000 So it was like one specific thing.

00:27:27.000 We would go through catalogs and go through what was on sale.

00:27:30.000 This was all before internet.

00:27:32.000 I'm going to throw to Blake in a second.

00:27:34.000 The internet ruined it.

00:27:35.000 Also, there was a divide and conquer strategy of what stores are we going to hit?

00:27:39.000 Are we going to go to Best Buy?

00:27:41.000 Are we going to go to Home Depot?

00:27:42.000 And you're shopping for other people.

00:27:45.000 And there was a real conquest chess game.

00:27:48.000 Oh, yeah.

00:27:48.000 Where it's like, oh, wow.

00:27:49.000 Best Buy opens at 1130 and Walmart's at midnight.

00:27:53.000 My strategy would always be, like, I would find the one store that was, like, within a 45-minute drive.

00:27:58.000 Yes.

00:27:59.000 But in, like, a non-populated area.

00:28:01.000 And it was so much fun.

00:28:03.000 That people didn't think about.

00:28:04.000 Or, like, a Staples, because nobody thinks that Staples would have stuff, but they do have computers and different, you know, hide items.

00:28:10.000 So, like, what's the thing that people aren't going to think about?

00:28:13.000 And that's where I'm going to go.

00:28:13.000 And now you just wait for Cyber Monday and click a couple buttons.

00:28:16.000 And so all the adventure of it, and you don't earn it anymore.

00:28:20.000 It used to be you'd get home at 3.30 in the morning, you're like, I got a good deal on a big screen TV. It was a teenage rite of passage in suburban Chicago.

00:28:29.000 Your thoughts?

00:28:29.000 Yeah, it was really...

00:28:31.000 I can still think of individual things I went out of my way to get on Black Friday.

00:28:35.000 I think I still have a PlayStation 3 that I got in 2011. I think I can remember the exact deal.

00:28:41.000 It was a PS Slim, $250.

00:28:43.000 It came with LittleBigPlanet and some crummy Ratchet and Clank game.

00:28:47.000 Who cares?

00:28:48.000 But that was the best deal you could get for, I think, two years after that point.

00:28:53.000 But what ended up killing it was...

00:28:55.000 As you said, you'd go for the time.

00:28:57.000 It used to be, okay, it was on Black Friday normal hours.

00:29:00.000 Then they would open it at like 6 a.m. in the morning and people would show up before.

00:29:04.000 Then someone got ahead and made it, oh, let's open exactly at midnight.

00:29:07.000 And then what finally killed it, I think, the rise of the internet was a factor.

00:29:12.000 But another thing that killed it was companies decided to get so greedy and they just said, we're doing Black Friday on Thanksgiving.

00:29:19.000 And they would just be open on Thanksgiving with those deals.

00:29:22.000 And I think to America's credit, there was popular backlash to this where they're saying, wait, you're forcing employees to skip Thanksgiving to come in and work on Thanksgiving.

00:29:34.000 Oh, yeah.

00:29:34.000 Though, I must hedge, I have to be personally grateful for the fact that stores are open on Thanksgiving, some of them, because I visited a friend, this is about 10 years ago, I went down to a friend in Tennessee for Thanksgiving, and I took a megabus down.

00:29:52.000 You know, poor, we have to travel by bus.

00:29:54.000 And I took a Megabus down and I had a bag under it and I had to get off in Chattanooga, which was the final destination was Atlanta.

00:30:02.000 And they get out and they're like, okay, where's your bag?

00:30:04.000 I'm like, oh, it's under the thing and they open it and they feel around.

00:30:06.000 They're like, ah, yeah, we can't find it.

00:30:08.000 We have a schedule to do.

00:30:10.000 We have to go.

00:30:11.000 And they just drove away with my bag, with all of my changes of clothes, and I arrived late Wednesday night.

00:30:18.000 So I had to go to a Walmart, which, thanks to American capitalism, was open on Thanksgiving, and I had to buy an entire set of clothes for the whole weekend.

00:30:28.000 So I had that perspective.

00:30:29.000 I actually, one of my first jobs was in high school.

00:30:32.000 I took the seasonal job at Target and my first day, like first real day was Black Friday.

00:30:42.000 So I had to wake up after Thanksgiving when I was like a sophomore in high school at like literally 4 a.m.

00:30:50.000 I had to be at Target at 4.30, help stock everything.

00:30:54.000 This was still the days Did they still open the doors like Charlie was talking about before they just like leave it open or open like super early?

00:31:01.000 And there would be like, I get there at like four o'clock and there would be a line wrapped around the building that people waited to get in.

00:31:07.000 And then we had to stock everything.

00:31:09.000 So here's a crazy story.

00:31:11.000 So you guys, there's a myth that Black Friday is the day after Thanksgiving.

00:31:18.000 And you know why that's a myth?

00:31:21.000 Because the real truth is that Thanksgiving is the day before Black Friday.

00:31:29.000 And that is because...

00:31:31.000 Let me finish the story.

00:31:33.000 This is because I am not making it up.

00:31:35.000 The current date of Thanksgiving is because of an evil plot by FDR. No, I'm not making this up.

00:31:43.000 So Lincoln's proclamation of Thanksgiving is Thanksgiving is on the last Thursday of the month.

00:31:48.000 Yes.

00:31:49.000 It is on the last Thursday.

00:31:50.000 Right.

00:31:51.000 It is not on the last Thursday.

00:31:52.000 It is currently on the fourth Thursday of the month.

00:31:55.000 That is what the federal law is.

00:31:57.000 So there are sometimes five...

00:31:59.000 Which requires a Friday.

00:32:00.000 No.

00:32:00.000 So there are sometimes five Thursdays in November, and then it would be on the 4th.

00:32:05.000 It used to be on the 5th.

00:32:06.000 And then during the Great Depression, I believe in 1939, FDR got in his head, if there's a longer time between Thanksgiving and Christmas, there will be a longer Christmas shopping season.

00:32:20.000 And so people will shop more and this will stimulate the economy.

00:32:24.000 And so he intervened and he moved Thanksgiving to be a week earlier.

00:32:30.000 And this became a partisan political issue.

00:32:33.000 And so for a few years, Republican states said, we're not doing this and we're refusing to go along with it.

00:32:40.000 So you had a Democrat Thanksgiving on the fourth Thursday and you had a Republican Thanksgiving on the fifth one.

00:32:47.000 And I think Texas, because they were a Democrat state but had a lot of conservative Democrats who didn't like FDR, they called the truce and they just had, they said, they're both holidays.

00:32:58.000 And they had two Thanksgivings.

00:33:00.000 And then, sadly, Congress submitted and now it's just on the fourth Thursday and we lost that culture war battle.

00:33:07.000 But what you were saying, though, there's a deeper...

00:33:11.000 And producer Faz talks about this all the time.

00:33:14.000 His birthday was this week, by the way.

00:33:15.000 Shout out.

00:33:16.000 He calls it micro-wins, micro-ws.

00:33:19.000 So, Charlie, you'd appreciate this.

00:33:21.000 Is that, like...

00:33:23.000 In your teenage years, and working retail used to be part of this too, but in your teenage years, there used to be a variety of things that you would do as a rite of passage that have all been pretty much completely destroyed because of new technology.

00:33:36.000 One of those, of course, was waiting in line like this.

00:33:39.000 Another one of those, you know, having those retail jobs, again, with no phone to, like...

00:33:43.000 Just, you know, constantly be there getting you through it.

00:33:46.000 Monotony going through it.

00:33:48.000 One of the other ones we...

00:33:49.000 I don't know how I got into this the other day on Twitter.

00:33:51.000 It's not even Thanksgiving related, but it was like when you used to have to call someone's house and if you wanted to call a girl, you had to call her house and you had to get through mom or potentially dad.

00:34:04.000 And so it's like the elimination of all those...

00:34:08.000 Things in society has now created men or adults who don't actually go through any meaningful rite of passage.

00:34:16.000 No, I mean, I totally agree with that.

00:34:17.000 I mean, some of these other rites of passage were like elementary things such as be home before dark.

00:34:24.000 Like, that was, like, a very simple thing, right?

00:34:26.000 I mean, other rites of passage were that you need to memorize, like you say, the home phone numbers of at least five people that you know.

00:34:33.000 Yeah, memorizing phone numbers.

00:34:34.000 Right?

00:34:34.000 I don't think anybody does that anymore.

00:34:36.000 Like, anybody.

00:34:36.000 I know Tonya's.

00:34:38.000 I know my parents.

00:34:39.000 I know all the phone numbers from when I grew up.

00:34:41.000 I know a bunch from when I grew up, yeah.

00:34:43.000 Like, I know a bunch of my buddies.

00:34:45.000 But, like, my brother got a cell phone later.

00:34:47.000 I don't know.

00:34:47.000 I also think it was really important That when I used to call somebody's house, I had to speak to an adult.

00:34:53.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:34:54.000 I think that was a very profound...

00:34:56.000 Think about that.

00:34:57.000 Think about that.

00:34:57.000 I think it's a very underappreciated...

00:35:00.000 There was no texting.

00:35:00.000 It didn't exist.

00:35:01.000 No.

00:35:02.000 When I was in sixth grade, AOL Instant Messenger was just starting.

00:35:06.000 Okay.

00:35:07.000 And that was a thing.

00:35:07.000 But it had to be on a, like, publicly available computer in my house.

00:35:12.000 And it wasn't, like, you couldn't, like, bring it with you at all times.

00:35:15.000 It was, like, there was, like, a very, you know, like...

00:35:17.000 So it was just, like, logging on and logging off was a thing.

00:35:20.000 Oh, it was totally a thing.

00:35:21.000 That they had the away message.

00:35:22.000 You had the away message.

00:35:24.000 And you would come home to see if you got any messages. 0.97

00:35:27.000 And I actually, again, I don't even know if that was a healthier version of this crap that we have right now. 0.96

00:35:32.000 Much healthier. 0.91

00:35:33.000 And so I loved AOL Instant Messenger, for the record.

00:35:36.000 I thought it was really fun.

00:35:37.000 And it was actually a really, really good service.

00:35:39.000 It was really, I mean...

00:35:41.000 I really liked it.

00:35:42.000 And it was the precursor to a lot of the...

00:35:44.000 A lot of our social norms on texting came from AOL Instant Messenger.

00:35:47.000 Oh yeah, that's right.

00:35:50.000 LOL comes from that?

00:35:52.000 LOL BRB, TTYL. LOL absolutely comes from AOL Instant Messenger.

00:35:57.000 AOL still exists, by the way.

00:35:58.000 There are still millions of people getting dialed up.

00:36:01.000 They shut down Instant Messenger.

00:36:02.000 Instant Messenger's been dead.

00:36:03.000 Not only is Instant Messenger dead.

00:36:05.000 Is that right?

00:36:06.000 AIM is done?

00:36:07.000 AIM is gone.

00:36:09.000 Charlie, it's even older than that because I was on Instant Messenger because...

00:36:13.000 Jack and I are a little bit older than you.

00:36:15.000 I was on a semester.

00:36:16.000 No, but I'm saying it was big in my community.

00:36:19.000 Tyler is way older than Charlie.

00:36:22.000 Way older.

00:36:23.000 Jack's older than me.

00:36:25.000 Tyler actually is the first generation.

00:36:29.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:36:30.000 I loved AOL and Spencer.

00:36:32.000 AOL and Spencer.

00:36:34.000 Yahoo, MSN. Here's another rite of passage.

00:36:38.000 Okay.

00:36:40.000 Playing a video game so much that it overheats.

00:36:45.000 That's like a real thing.

00:36:47.000 Or playing a game.

00:36:48.000 Jack knows what I'm talking about.

00:36:50.000 Especially computer games though.

00:36:52.000 No, no, no, no.

00:36:52.000 If you play for too long and your computer wasn't that sophisticated or good, the whole hard drive would start to overheat, right?

00:36:59.000 That's a real thing.

00:37:00.000 100%.

00:37:00.000 Or how about another one?

00:37:03.000 Playing on either Age of Empires or Sims or whatever it was and it malfunctioning before you save or you can log your progress.

00:37:12.000 Right?

00:37:13.000 Mom unplugging the Nintendo before...

00:37:16.000 Well, when you were on, like, level eight of Mario and there was no way to save.

00:37:21.000 Or mom telling you to pause.

00:37:22.000 No way at all, boys and girls.

00:37:23.000 Mom telling you to pause the game when it's actually online and you're playing against other people.

00:37:28.000 Yeah.

00:37:29.000 I had numerous times defeating a level in Super Mario and then forgetting to save it and you shut it off and you go back.

00:37:38.000 You're like, ugh.

00:37:41.000 Shameful.

00:37:41.000 It's just so funny.

00:37:42.000 The things we worried about back then were just so insignificant.

00:37:45.000 I'll say this.

00:37:46.000 I don't know if any of you guys remember this one.

00:37:47.000 I miss New Music Tuesdays.

00:37:49.000 Does anyone else remember New Music Tuesdays?

00:37:51.000 Yeah, albums would release on Tuesdays, right?

00:37:53.000 I think games still release on Tuesdays a lot.

00:37:56.000 They did at least when I was a kid, I think.

00:37:57.000 Oh, thank God.

00:37:58.000 There's something.

00:37:58.000 But maybe that might have varied now, too.

00:38:00.000 A group of music.

00:38:02.000 And it was always Tuesdays that it would come out.

00:38:04.000 So you used to have like these mini Black Friday type things where you'd go on.

00:38:08.000 I guess people still kind of do it for games where you would come out for, you know, new music or, you know, a new album was dropping.

00:38:14.000 So back when music actually was like good.

00:38:17.000 That being said, I did see Creed again this week.

00:38:21.000 I'm trying to think of other rites of passage.

00:38:23.000 Oh, yeah.

00:38:24.000 Knowing the dial-up sound is definitely a rite of passage.

00:38:27.000 Like, not having super fast internet all the time.

00:38:30.000 Just having to sit.

00:38:32.000 Remember waiting for websites to load?

00:38:34.000 Do you remember asking friends for rides?

00:38:37.000 Oh! 0.60

00:38:38.000 Uber existed.

00:38:39.000 Wait, wait, Charlie.

00:38:39.000 What about asking directions and having to know directions?

00:38:43.000 I'm still really good at directions.

00:38:44.000 Partially because you had to know where you were going.

00:38:47.000 Like, this was before GPS. How about this?

00:38:48.000 How about no one?

00:38:49.000 Printing out MapQuest directions.

00:38:51.000 Was that not the best?

00:38:53.000 I used to be cheap, so I would just write it down.

00:38:55.000 Charlie, were you around?

00:38:56.000 I was a big MapQuest guy.

00:38:58.000 I would go to MapQuest, and then I would write down the directions, and then I'd just bring my little note card with me.

00:39:03.000 What were you saying, Greg?

00:39:04.000 Charlie, you might be too young.

00:39:05.000 I once had a journey where my parents made me actually narrate the turns to make on an actual physical map that we had purchased with the highways of America.

00:39:17.000 Oh, no, no, no.

00:39:18.000 All the time.

00:39:19.000 100%, yes.

00:39:20.000 I remember I was living in New Jersey for two years when I was in junior high.

00:39:24.000 And my mom printed them out on MapQuest and was going somewhere for my brother's football game and got so lost and turned around, she pulled over in a gas station crying because she didn't know where to go or how to go anywhere.

00:39:38.000 She was completely lost.

00:39:40.000 Like, in any place.

00:39:41.000 I had no idea.

00:39:42.000 It makes you think, like, actually...

00:39:44.000 Sorry, I'm off for sharing that.

00:39:45.000 Is it a good thing or a bad thing we have the GPA? I mean, in some ways, like, we're probably more efficient.

00:39:50.000 When China comes after us, that's the first thing they're going for. 1.00

00:39:53.000 Oh, yeah.

00:39:54.000 Day one.

00:39:55.000 It's that one, then, like, all of our online banking.

00:39:58.000 It's crazy.

00:39:59.000 And then we're just all screwed.

00:40:00.000 I don't know if you still have You have to do this, but I know in London, in the UK, to become a cab driver, you used to have to, maybe you still do, but you had to pass this test called the knowledge, and it was basically, you had to memorize the location of like 27,000 different things in London, and people would lose their minds attempting to pass this thing, and obviously, if it's still around, it's obviously just a gate.

00:40:27.000 It's more difficult to become a cab driver in London than pass the bar.

00:40:31.000 I feel like Uber could use a little bit of that.

00:40:33.000 They've done brain scans of cab drivers that have mastered the knowledge.

00:40:37.000 And their hippoclamus, which is the actual part of memory, is bigger in their brain than the average person.

00:40:43.000 And so in order for that to be true, in order...

00:40:47.000 So that's self-selecting.

00:40:49.000 No, no, no.

00:40:49.000 In order for that to be true, one of two things are true.

00:40:51.000 Either that these are people with disproportionately big hippoclampuses that are coming into the taxi business, or your brain can change.

00:41:00.000 All three of you guys have giant hippocampuses.

00:41:05.000 Sorry, hippocampus.

00:41:08.000 It's the thing that was indelible in Blasey Ford's brain.

00:41:13.000 Remember?

00:41:14.000 Indelible in my hippocampus?

00:41:16.000 However, it was the most profound development of neuroscience in the last 20 years.

00:41:22.000 Discovery to show that your brain raw material can change based on your environment and your circumstances.

00:41:29.000 There is no other explanation.

00:41:31.000 There's no way that people that have disproportionately active parts of the hippocampus all just want to become taxi drivers.

00:41:36.000 Right.

00:41:37.000 It's just that this is not a thing.

00:41:38.000 Well, no, no.

00:41:38.000 The idea would be then that those are the only ones who can pass the test.

00:41:42.000 No, again, it's just, it defies logic because you're in the sub-one set of the standard deviation, right?

00:41:49.000 These people, like, just happen to all want to become cab drivers?

00:41:52.000 No, no way.

00:41:53.000 Meaning that your brain can actually become better at a certain task when applied.

00:41:57.000 So it's like a muscle that...

00:41:59.000 Yeah, actually, let me find the study.

00:42:00.000 It's super interesting.

00:42:00.000 It was in Sean Astor's book called The Happiness Advantage.

00:42:05.000 Let me see here.

00:42:07.000 So the idea being then, the more you work it out the same way when you go to the gym and you're like, I'm going to focus on whatever muscle.

00:42:15.000 This is it right here.

00:42:16.000 A taxi driver's knowledge is often linked to an enlarged hippocampus, blah, blah, blah.

00:42:20.000 Key points in the study here shows about brain plasticity.

00:42:23.000 Phenomenon demonstrates the brain's ability to adapt and change based on the experience where the hippocampus can grow in response to intensive spatial learning.

00:42:30.000 So let's put this on the flip side then.

00:42:32.000 The fact that we're all using GPS now.

00:42:34.000 It makes us dummer.

00:42:35.000 Is literally...

00:42:37.000 Unless you do what I do, which is you try to anticipate where the GPS is taking you before.

00:42:42.000 Because the GPS is like AI. It could be an enhancement to you, or it could just make you totally check out.

00:42:47.000 Well, it's sometimes wrong.

00:42:48.000 Well, the GPS is wrong all the time.

00:42:50.000 Yeah, all the time.

00:42:50.000 All the time when Mikey's driving, I'm like, why is it taking us this way, not that way?

00:42:53.000 That's a good sign.

00:42:54.000 If you are fact-checking your GPS, you are getting actually...

00:42:57.000 I did this when we were driving around Pennsylvania with my brother during the election, and we were driving from Penn State to Philadelphia.

00:43:05.000 And at one point, it wanted us to go on this road, which would take us to Baltimore.

00:43:08.000 And I was like, why are we driving to Baltimore?

00:43:11.000 It's 83 South.

00:43:13.000 We need 76 East because we need to go to Philadelphia because we're going to the Eagles game.

00:43:18.000 And now it eventually, like, picked up.

00:43:21.000 But I remember sitting there looking at it, and it was just clearly wrong.

00:43:25.000 It was clearly wrong.

00:43:26.000 I put it in the chat, Scientific American.

00:43:27.000 Okay, I got to dash.

00:43:28.000 You guys keep talking.

00:43:30.000 Happy Thanksgiving, everybody.

00:43:32.000 And you guys hold down the fort.

00:43:34.000 Happy Thanksgiving, Charlie.

00:43:35.000 Have a great Thanksgiving, Charlie.

00:43:36.000 I see that now.

00:43:38.000 I did not realize Charlie was such a Thanksgivophile.

00:43:43.000 Charlie's missing out on the most important fact.

00:43:45.000 He even put away his hatred of corn.

00:43:47.000 I completely agree.

00:43:48.000 We should do a Thanksgiving dinner for Charlie at AmFest.

00:43:50.000 I completely agree, Charlie.

00:43:52.000 I actually think that my favorite.

00:43:52.000 We'll bring the corn.

00:43:53.000 We'll put a turkey out.

00:43:55.000 My favorite holiday is Thanksgiving.

00:43:57.000 It's the most American holiday.

00:43:59.000 Charlie's right about that.

00:44:00.000 It's by far the most American holiday.

00:44:02.000 It is.

00:44:02.000 I think it tops the 4th of July.

00:44:05.000 It's a good one.

00:44:06.000 I do feel like American Christmas might be better because it so clearly makes libs irate.

00:44:14.000 In particular, the fact that libs throughout history have repeatedly attempted to kill Christmas. 0.85

00:44:21.000 The more jerkish ones who won the Civil War in England, they tried to ban Christmas. 0.95

00:44:30.000 Wait, Blake, but is it Christian to celebrate Christmas? 0.97

00:44:33.000 It's not in the Bible.

00:44:34.000 Yeah, I know.

00:44:35.000 It's weird.

00:44:36.000 Right after Charlie leaves.

00:44:38.000 Right after Charlie leaves.

00:44:39.000 Let's start that debate.

00:44:40.000 Libs throughout history have tried to kill Christmas repeatedly, and they can't. 1.00

00:44:44.000 They did actually bend it.

00:44:46.000 They did actually bend it in Massachusetts, I want to say.

00:44:49.000 Yeah, and they fail.

00:44:50.000 Christmas always comes back, because normal people love Christmas, because Christmas is awesome.

00:44:54.000 I'm not disagreeing or arguing with you at all.

00:44:56.000 That's not my point I'm trying to bring up.

00:44:57.000 But the one reason why I love Thanksgiving...

00:45:00.000 And I think this is crazy.

00:45:02.000 For people who have multiple families they have to go visit.

00:45:05.000 So when you're married, you have to go see everybody's families and grandparents and cousins, all that stuff, and see everybody.

00:45:12.000 For whatever reason, Christmas feels so much more stressful going and doing all that.

00:45:17.000 And Thanksgiving, I mean, you have basically the same amount of stops.

00:45:21.000 You have to arguably do even more work.

00:45:24.000 I mean, I think Thanksgiving's a lot of work.

00:45:27.000 Like, you have to, you know, especially for the moms and grandmas and everybody else that's making food.

00:45:33.000 But it's just such a less stress-filled day.

00:45:36.000 Christmas feels way more stressful.

00:45:38.000 I think a lot of people feel stressed out by Christmas because they fret about giving their kids a perfect Christmas.

00:45:43.000 Yeah.

00:45:44.000 I don't think anyone frets about giving their kid the perfect Thanksgiving.

00:45:48.000 That's a huge part of stress.

00:45:50.000 That's a huge stress for...

00:45:52.000 I know for us, when it comes to Christmas, that's always definitely something where...

00:45:58.000 Going from, like, receiving Christmas to being a parent when you are giving Christmas, along with Santa Claus, that, you know, as a parent, you really have to work with Santa, and there's a lot more that goes on, as opposed to being a kid and you just sort of experience Christmas, that it is stressful.

00:46:19.000 It's definitely stressful, and it's something that I've noticed.

00:46:23.000 It's like...

00:46:24.000 One of the biggest differences of becoming, you know, becoming a parent or becoming a father is that you, you know, and obviously we're not doing a Christmas episode here, but yeah, it's in order of magnitude higher than that for Thanksgiving.

00:46:38.000 And on Thanksgiving, you don't even have Santa helping you.

00:46:40.000 Yeah, I typed in the chat, I'm just surprised that Black Friday hasn't been canceled.

00:46:44.000 You talk about canceling.

00:46:46.000 Yeah.

00:46:47.000 It is shocking.

00:46:48.000 Yeah, I think it, there were a few efforts...

00:46:52.000 I want to say there were probably a few efforts.

00:46:54.000 I saw it kind of bubble up more than a few times.

00:46:58.000 And by the way, you see this pretty often, where they'll say, you know, why is it that a black hat in cowboy movies is associated with negative, or Darth Vader is associated with negative something in a movie, and so the black color is associated with being negative, whereas the white collar is on a white hat is a good person, and white and black, etc.

00:47:19.000 And so they'll try to do that, but it's just so ingrained in movies that there's not much you can do with it.

00:47:25.000 Obviously the new Wicked movie that's, you know, that's out right now, which looks horrible, is like totally, you know, totally a play on that as well with, you know, is the witch good or bad?

00:47:36.000 But of course they...

00:47:37.000 Instead of that, they actually decided to racialize it as opposed to just leaving it how it is in the book and musical.

00:47:42.000 So they added this whole other dimension to it.

00:47:44.000 And you do see this come up with Black Friday every once in a while.

00:47:50.000 Because they were just kind of going for broke there in 2020, Blake.

00:47:54.000 They were just trying to go after anything they could think of.

00:47:57.000 Speaking of movies, there's like no Thanksgiving movies, really.

00:48:01.000 Should there be more?

00:48:03.000 Could there be more?

00:48:03.000 Or do they just get eaten by...

00:48:05.000 Yeah, there totally should be more.

00:48:06.000 Well, there's Planes, Trains, and Automobiles.

00:48:08.000 There's that one.

00:48:09.000 But other than that, there's just like...

00:48:10.000 The number one.

00:48:12.000 There's the Eli Roth horror movie that I haven't seen.

00:48:15.000 And then there's some like really bad B-movies.

00:48:18.000 I saw it last year.

00:48:19.000 Thanksgiving and Thanksgiving 2, according to Wikipedia.

00:48:23.000 Last of the Mohicans, is that a good thing? 1.00

00:48:24.000 No, Thanksgiving 1 was terrible, but Thanksgiving 2, actually, I feel like it rises above the subject.

00:48:30.000 Revitalize the franchise.

00:48:33.000 They went in different directions that I didn't expect.

00:48:37.000 What about Last of the Mohicans? 0.66

00:48:38.000 Can we make that a...

00:48:39.000 Is it Thanksgiving?

00:48:42.000 No, but you'd think there'd be like a classic cartoon Thanksgiving movie that's got like...

00:48:48.000 Well, you do.

00:48:48.000 You know what I mean?

00:48:49.000 Charlie Brown.

00:48:51.000 That's like pretty OG. Yeah, Charlie Brown is like all you got.

00:48:55.000 But that's not even a movie.

00:48:56.000 That's just like a special.

00:48:57.000 I'm now looking.

00:48:58.000 I'm looking now.

00:48:59.000 I guess one thing about it is I think the Thanksgiving, the Macy's parade displaces where you might otherwise watch a Thanksgiving movie.

00:49:08.000 And football, of course.

00:49:09.000 Also a reminder, there's a bunch of movies that release on Thanksgiving, so people will go watch the compilation of movies that are coming out.

00:49:17.000 Like, I'm going with my family on Friday to see Moana 2, which we celebrate because Moana 1 came out in 2016 right after Trump won.

00:49:25.000 Mm-hmm.

00:49:27.000 And yeah, I'm looking at the list of...

00:49:29.000 Wikipedia doesn't have a list of Thanksgiving movies.

00:49:32.000 They just have a list of movies set around Thanksgiving.

00:49:35.000 So apparently, like Beethoven?

00:49:39.000 Oh, Beethoven!

00:49:41.000 That was!

00:49:41.000 I think it was on the cover.

00:49:44.000 Doesn't Beethoven get the turkey?

00:49:46.000 I haven't seen Beethoven in a long time.

00:49:49.000 Paul Blart Mall Cop is a Thanksgiving movie?

00:49:52.000 Yeah, but that's like, again...

00:49:52.000 That is a scene.

00:49:54.000 Yeah, because there's a...

00:49:55.000 Well, no, because there's a Black Friday scene in it.

00:49:58.000 Okay, alright.

00:50:01.000 Brokeback Mountain is a Thanksgiving movie, apparently.

00:50:06.000 Blake, what are you doing right now?

00:50:08.000 This is a bad, bad decision, Blake.

00:50:11.000 Wait, the blind side.

00:50:12.000 The blind side, yeah.

00:50:13.000 Wait, no, there is that turkey movie.

00:50:16.000 There is that, like, the Thanksgiving movie where someone tried to make a turkey movie, like, a couple years ago.

00:50:22.000 Freebirds.

00:50:23.000 And it was awful.

00:50:24.000 It was just so bad.

00:50:25.000 It was not good.

00:50:26.000 It was so, so bad.

00:50:26.000 It's one of those low-grade Blue Sky movies, I think, or whatever.

00:50:31.000 They made a Friendsgiving comedy movie.

00:50:33.000 Oh, Turkey Hollow.

00:50:34.000 We watched Turkey Hollow a couple years ago, and it was really weird.

00:50:38.000 The Big Chill?

00:50:39.000 Is that Thanksgiving?

00:50:40.000 It's like the turkeys are like these...

00:50:43.000 They live in the woods and they're like half fantastical creatures of some sort.

00:50:50.000 Wait, that's a Jim Henson movie.

00:50:52.000 Jim Henson's turkey.

00:50:54.000 Yeah, it's Jim Henson.

00:50:54.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:50:55.000 Well, it must be just his company, right?

00:50:58.000 But it's definitely not a...

00:51:03.000 Like, Thanksgiving...

00:51:03.000 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:51:04.000 We're missing the most obvious one that always shows on Thanksgiving.

00:51:08.000 What?

00:51:08.000 It's the Miracle on 34th Street.

00:51:10.000 Is that a...

00:51:10.000 Because it takes place around...

00:51:12.000 Wait, but that's obviously a Christmas movie.

00:51:15.000 Yeah, that's the thing about it.

00:51:17.000 Sure, but it's obviously a Christmas movie.

00:51:18.000 Like, Thanksgiving is eaten by Christmas so much.

00:51:20.000 Yeah, but it's a...

00:51:20.000 Did you know Jingle Bells is a Thanksgiving song?

00:51:22.000 Yeah, but go back to that.

00:51:25.000 That's a traditional Thanksgiving movie.

00:51:27.000 Jingle Bells is about traveling to visit someone on Thanksgiving, and they've just made it a Christmas song.

00:51:32.000 Oh, really?

00:51:33.000 Yeah, but apparently it is a Thanksgiving song.

00:51:35.000 Where were they living?

00:51:37.000 They needed a sleigh for Thanksgiving.

00:51:39.000 I don't know.

00:51:40.000 Probably part of the same place where the hotel people are still called chambermaids.

00:51:46.000 Canada?

00:51:47.000 Yeah.

00:51:49.000 That's harsh.

00:51:50.000 Didn't Charlie say chambermaid on that one classic episode a couple of weeks ago?

00:51:54.000 A while ago.

00:51:55.000 You've Got Mail is a Thanksgiving movie, apparently.

00:51:59.000 What?

00:52:00.000 Some of these are just bizarre.

00:52:01.000 Since we were talking about AOL. Okay, just because a movie has a scene in it which takes place in a certain, you know, there's like a turkey scene or whatever, that doesn't make it a movie about that.

00:52:14.000 Unless the movie is...

00:52:16.000 100% dedicated to the holiday, then it is not a movie that belongs to that holiday.

00:52:22.000 Well, that's like the debate of whether Die Hard is a Christmas movie.

00:52:24.000 So, like, Batman Returns is not a Christmas movie.

00:52:26.000 Die Hard is not a Christmas movie.

00:52:28.000 It is not.

00:52:28.000 I agree on that one.

00:52:29.000 We need Daily Wire to make a Thanksgiving movie, apparently.

00:52:32.000 Oh, dear.

00:52:33.000 What is a turkey?

00:52:34.000 Daily Wire, yeah.

00:52:35.000 What is a turkey?

00:52:36.000 A Daily Wire investigation.

00:52:39.000 Ben Shapiro's Thanksgiving.

00:52:43.000 Yeah.

00:52:46.000 He's like, it's like Ben's in the kitchen.

00:52:48.000 He's so good.

00:52:52.000 Well, guys...

00:52:54.000 He's like going through like the perfect cranberry mix.

00:52:57.000 Is it a lot...

00:52:58.000 Oh man, this is like...

00:52:59.000 Oh wait, we forgot to do...

00:53:01.000 We should have done one thing with Charlie to end it all out.

00:53:04.000 So we'll have to...

00:53:05.000 I would go so far as to say I'd love to find a way to like edit this in if we could.

00:53:09.000 Because we should all go around and say one thing we're thankful for.

00:53:12.000 Yeah, I agree.

00:53:13.000 Other than winning.

00:53:15.000 Other than winning.

00:53:15.000 We can't say that.

00:53:16.000 It has to be like a personal thing.

00:53:20.000 Because that's what we do with my family.

00:53:21.000 Blake, you can start.

00:53:22.000 No, you're putting the pressure on me.

00:53:25.000 So I'll start.

00:53:26.000 Okay, I'll start.

00:53:27.000 So actually, my brother Braxton just had his third child two days ago.

00:53:34.000 There you go.

00:53:35.000 Two days ago.

00:53:36.000 So...

00:53:37.000 Braxton just had his third child, which we're really excited about.

00:53:41.000 All was great, and baby came out great.

00:53:45.000 We were worried because I went with my brother to the ASU game on Saturday, and my sister-in-law was a week overdue, so he really shouldn't have been maybe doing that.

00:53:56.000 But ASU won.

00:53:57.000 She got induced on Sunday, and...

00:54:02.000 And then they named the baby Tate, and then they used my middle name, Storm.

00:54:08.000 So his name is Tate Storm Boyer, which is...

00:54:11.000 My name is Tyler Storm Boyer.

00:54:13.000 So they named the baby middle name.

00:54:16.000 I don't know if it's after me, but it's in the same name.

00:54:20.000 So very grateful for babies.

00:54:23.000 I have a...

00:54:25.000 If I wanted to be serious, I can say it, but it's...

00:54:28.000 I don't want to give away exactly where I live, but there's this...

00:54:32.000 I'll just say there's this, like, Christmas tradition that has been going on for just years, and last year it got canceled because there was, like, a financial issue.

00:54:47.000 And it basically people just kind of rallied and the whole community came together and was like, no, and it was a kids thing and it was like, we're, you know, we're totally going to save this and it's going to come back next year and it's going to be amazing.

00:54:59.000 And we totally did and I threw a bunch of money in.

00:55:04.000 And it's back.

00:55:05.000 And it just started.

00:55:06.000 And the kids love it.

00:55:07.000 And it's amazing.

00:55:08.000 So I'm just really happy for that.

00:55:09.000 Really thankful that that worked out.

00:55:11.000 Because we thought we were going to lose this thing.

00:55:13.000 And I couldn't even tell you what it is.

00:55:15.000 It's just a thing the kids do every year.

00:55:18.000 And they can go to.

00:55:19.000 And it came back.

00:55:20.000 And it was awesome.

00:55:21.000 And it is awesome.

00:55:22.000 And it will continue to be awesome for a long time.

00:55:24.000 It's going to be bigger now, I think, than ever.

00:55:26.000 Because, you know, closing down.

00:55:28.000 And it's sort of like a, you know, a local landmark.

00:55:31.000 And there was, you know, this This stupid thing that happened last year and it was cool to see people do that and it's just great because I can see that with my kids and then I can take them to see it as well and see that tradition keep going.

00:55:45.000 I love that. 0.82

00:55:45.000 And also, of course, for Saquon Barkley. 0.82

00:55:48.000 So I'm very, very thankful for Saquon Barkley and the Eagles.

00:55:53.000 I am thankful that tomorrow, as of when we're recording this, I forgot what day it was, that the Neff family, my parents, my brother, my two sisters, their spouses, their children, will assemble for Thanksgiving.

00:56:10.000 There will be, trying to do the math in my head, but quite a few number of people, and there will be no libs.

00:56:18.000 No libs and no steak.

00:56:19.000 And no steak.

00:56:21.000 So it will be all proper forms will be observed.

00:56:25.000 You won't have a single lib in your house?

00:56:26.000 No libs.

00:56:29.000 Wow.

00:56:29.000 I know.

00:56:30.000 Same here.

00:56:30.000 The Neff family is a plus.

00:56:31.000 Yeah, same here.

00:56:31.000 Even I have a few libs in my house.

00:56:33.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:56:34.000 See, we...

00:56:36.000 Very grateful.

00:56:36.000 I'll say this, you know, in a gathering of people.

00:56:39.000 Like I said, it's pretty...

00:56:40.000 I mean, even...

00:56:42.000 I mean, in the past, we would have had more satellite branches of the family.

00:56:45.000 But even if we added those in, it would still be the case.

00:56:49.000 But...

00:56:50.000 Maybe, like, one shaky person who, like, voted for Obama in a moment of weakness or something.

00:56:54.000 But, like, definitely with the core ones.

00:56:58.000 Like, my parents lucked out.

00:56:59.000 They had four kids, and none of them, like, went to college and were suddenly like, eh, I realized that Republicans are bad.

00:57:05.000 Well, all my immediate family is super conservative.

00:57:08.000 There's some questionable extended family.

00:57:10.000 But, like, all the marriages are good.

00:57:12.000 The kids are good so far, although the oldest is, like, the oldest grandbaby is, like, four.

00:57:18.000 So I guess, you know...

00:57:20.000 No lib tendencies would be absurd.

00:57:22.000 We haven't really talked about this, but, you know, the whole, like, libs and conservatives getting it over Thanksgiving, I'm for it.

00:57:29.000 I'm all for it.

00:57:31.000 There are several liberal members of the extended Pozo family and on other people's sides who basically just won't come to Thanksgiving anymore, and it's sad, and I think it sucks, and I think there's some things that are bigger in politics. 0.53

00:57:50.000 No, no, no.

00:57:51.000 It's just because they refuse to be around Trump supporters.

00:57:54.000 They just will not, you know, sit down and break bread with someone who could support that man.

00:58:01.000 And it's horrible, you know what I mean?

00:58:03.000 And I think it's just really sad that they would do that.

00:58:07.000 But at the same time, it's like, you know, if they ever wanted to come back, there's no...

00:58:12.000 No hard feelings.

00:58:13.000 I mean, we just would love to get the family back together again.

00:58:16.000 It's not even something we're mad about.

00:58:18.000 I just think it would be really cool for my kids to be able to see that side of the family.

00:58:23.000 Really great.

00:58:24.000 So, open invitation.

00:58:25.000 Not that you're watching thought crime, but it's always open.

00:58:28.000 100% always open.

00:58:30.000 Oh, and with that, since we are right at the very tail end here, of course, we're also thankful for the ThoughtCrime audience and for everything that you guys have done throughout the year, year plus that we've done the show.

00:58:46.000 Hey, we won.

00:58:47.000 That was pretty cool.

00:58:48.000 Make sure, by the way, I know we haven't said it, go get your AmericaFest tickets, your AmFest tickets, Amfest.com.

00:58:54.000 Definitely want to use promo code POSO. Get in early on that because they're going to go super fast. 0.85

00:59:00.000 It's going to be an incredible, incredible event.

00:59:02.000 And so to everybody watching, happy Thought Crime Thanksgiving.

00:59:08.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:59:09.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:59:12.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.

The Charlie Kirk Show - November 28, 2024

A THOUGHTCRIME Thanksgiving

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