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00:01:26.000Thank you for all those emails saying how much you missed him and his keen insights.
00:01:30.000Blake, you were on assignment yesterday.
00:01:32.000Why don't we just start there really quickly and give everybody just a little taste of the Event we were doing yesterday because that was really important.
00:01:41.000It was kind of, we would do these periodic summits with influencers, streamers, people who are, you know, will be doing our pick up the mic events.
00:01:52.000And it's actually a lot of it as a chance to just talk out the big issues facing the country.
00:01:57.000So we were talking about 2028 what's the situation going to be by then?
00:02:15.000And I don't want to divulge because it's secret what each individual person says.
00:02:19.000But it's just a good opportunity to check each other in a friendly environment and probe stuff so that we can be ahead of the curve before it flares up in the coming years.
00:02:31.000I mean, listen, one of the things that we do over on the Turning Point side that is just unlike anybody else is we equip.
00:02:40.000Young people, influencers, people with a platform, people with growing platforms, and that are aspiring to get into the space.
00:02:47.000We equip them with the tools they need to be as effective as possible.
00:02:51.000So it's a really important thing, especially in the aftermath of losing Charlie, who was just such a big voice, who had such a huge platform with this show, but across social media and all those things.
00:03:00.000So there are so many people rising up that want to be a part of helping and contributing and fixing this country, preparing for the future.
00:03:09.000So it's a really important thing that we're doing.
00:03:19.000But we have lots of news to get to today, Blake.
00:03:21.000And one of the big things that is happening right now, this morning, woke up to it, and it really does appear that it has significant traction, is the prospect of peace.
00:03:32.000Why I feel like this is very interesting in Ukraine and Russia, to be specific.
00:03:37.000Why I think this is interesting, Blake, is that we just did this 20 promises from.
00:03:41.000The Trump campaign in 2020, and we gave Trump a no.
00:03:44.000We said he did not achieve peace in Russia and Ukraine.
00:03:49.000But this could be a huge boon both to Russia and Ukraine and to our midterm prospects, frankly, if we could actually establish the framework for peace in Ukraine.
00:04:28.000We didn't have to give up a bunch of terrorists to do it.
00:04:30.000President Trump got this done in the midst of a bunch of criticism about this diesel deal and sanctions on Russia and these types of things.
00:04:41.000People didn't realize it behind the scenes.
00:04:42.000Had he slapped Russia with additional sanctions, for example, this probably would have fallen apart and Stephen Hubbard would still be arrested.
00:05:03.000Would you accept a peace deal that freezes everything the way it is right now, where you still keep 75% or more of your country, regardless of how it started?
00:05:14.000Would you accept where it is right now?
00:05:20.000Right now, we have to freeze, and I think this is a real way to end this war.
00:05:27.000So, Blake, why don't you help explain how significant that is to hear those words out of Zelensky's own mouth?
00:05:35.000Because President Trump has criticized him, saying he doesn't want peace.
00:05:38.000But to hear him say this at this juncture is a huge development.
00:05:42.000Yeah, so first, we'll see if it fully pans out, because obviously he could always blame translation issues or unclear English.
00:05:49.000But if it is what it looks like, for years, we've been trying to get Russia and Ukraine together on peace.
00:05:55.000And one of the key points is just what would the final peace line look like?
00:06:00.000Ukraine, for a long time, they really wanted to get the Crimea back.
00:06:03.000They really wanted to get those eastern provinces and the Donbass back.
00:06:07.000And Russia, meanwhile, has been claiming even more land than they currently possess.
00:06:10.000They actually had kind of bogus referendums and they annexed four oblasts, that's like provinces, and they claimed the whole territory of them.
00:06:18.000And several of them, they only have a portion of those.
00:06:21.000So if we can get them to come together and agree, actually, the current line, the ceasefire line, that can be our actual peace line.
00:06:29.000That would be both sides backing off from their extreme positions to reach peace.
00:06:33.000And there's precedent for that working.
00:06:35.000If you want an example, if you look at North and South Korea, that line that divides those countries, that wasn't negotiated.
00:06:42.000That's just where the ceasefire was when the Korean War ended after both sides were exhausted.
00:06:47.000And so if we get a similar deal here, I think it would be great for, frankly, great for Russia and great for Ukraine, because what both of them need is for this war to stop.
00:07:01.000Just this morning, again, I'm just repeating myself, met with President Vladimir Putin in St. Petersburg, Russia for roughly three hours.
00:07:09.000This is following Steve Witkoff meeting with Zelensky in Oslo and with Norwegian and Finnish leaders at the European NATO and other European and NATO representatives.
00:07:20.000So, President Putin has, in principle, now we'll put giant air quotes around that, agreed to resume trilateral talks in the beginning of November.
00:07:31.000And they might be doing this in Abu Dhabi.
00:07:34.000So, this is a really, really good sign.
00:07:36.000They're calling it meaningful progress with Ukraine bringing in new ideas.
00:07:40.000So, they want to talk about long term security guarantees for Ukraine, a post war economic prosperity plan, as they're calling it, and a broader European security architecture.
00:07:50.000So, okay, these things become problematic.
00:07:53.000But to Blake's point, he used a very important word when both sides get exhausted, when both sides get exhausted, and perhaps this is what we finally come to in this long drawn out conflict that is killing thousands of Europeans, of Ukrainians, and Russians.
00:08:11.000Every month, it is a bloody, bloody struggle that the whole world would be incentivized to help end.
00:08:18.000And not only because of diesel prices, not only because of deaths, but because of the fact that this could, Blake, if there are positive signs, and I'm going to be selfish here and think as a domestic actor here, this could inject positive momentum, an additional positive momentum into the midterms.
00:08:36.000And I'm sorry, that's just what I believe in.
00:08:39.000I am self focused here because I care about our country.
00:08:47.000And if this can help contribute to that, and we can look at it and say, President Trump got it done, that will only bolster our case heading into the midterms.
00:08:55.000And frankly, I think that's incredibly important, not only for us, but for the world.
00:09:58.000We're going to go over this Amy Acton mother ad from the Ramaswamy campaign and talk about the ethics of it because it's cost quite disturbed.
00:10:07.000We're also going to focus on we got a new drop out of Maricopa County.
00:10:10.000We're going to have Matthew Martinez from Turning Point Action join us, as well as Rich Barris going around the horn looking at all the latest polling in the early drops.
00:10:19.000But let's get into this Amy Acton ad, okay?
00:10:21.000I don't want to actually play it because I think, you know, there's a lot going on here, but I will read to you what it says, all right?
00:10:32.000So it's a roughly 60 second ad featuring Donna Arthur.
00:10:37.000And you could play the ad, I guess, with B roll, but I'll describe it here.
00:10:42.000Donna Arthur, who identifies herself as Amy Acton's mother.
00:10:46.000Now, Amy Acton, of course, is the Democrat candidate for governor in the state of Ohio.
00:10:50.000She says she loves her daughter, but Amy has a serious problem.
00:10:53.000Calls her a liar and states she lies about her past.
00:10:57.000She says she grew up living in a tent.
00:11:19.000I didn't engage with it because candidly bringing.
00:11:22.000Into a campaign ad just struck me initially as being something that I needed to pay special attention to, be a little more careful with.
00:11:31.000But then we find out this other part of the story, Blake, that apparently, you know, the mom, while she denies it, that Amy Acton was sexually assaulted.
00:11:44.000Her brother has stood by her charges here.
00:11:47.000And the stepfather, Cletith Arthur, who she alleges abused her between the ages of roughly 9 and 12, he was arrested, charged with rape involving a child under 13, and later died in 2004.
00:12:00.000And Amy Acton's mom stayed with this man up until his death.
00:12:05.000So now, Vivek Ramaswamy has said that this did come from his campaign and they are pouring $4 million behind it.
00:12:14.000So I think this is a lot of ethical questions here.
00:12:18.000It raises a lot of is this a huge backfire?
00:12:26.000I mean, as far as the issue, honestly, like the ethical issue, I don't know that it's that so much as much that the ad exists.
00:12:33.000If, let's just grant, If it was true that Amy Acton told really fabulous stories about her past, about being like homeless, living in a tent, like overcoming a lot of abuse, if that was false, that would be something that is worth pointing out and arguing about if it was true.
00:12:52.000Because just in the same way that it was a news story with that professor at Cambridge who was making a lot of stuff up, or the way, what's his name in Maine, he was telling all these fabulous stories and also trying to cover up bad stuff he'd done.
00:13:06.000If it was true, I think that would be a worthy.
00:13:08.000Story for an opponent to point out, even if it was the mom getting involved.
00:13:13.000Unfortunately, the problem here is it seems that her stepfather literally was criminally charged with a lot of this abusive behavior, and so it's difficult, certainly now, to make the case that it was all false.
00:13:28.000I'm worried that maybe the campaign just overreached, they thought they had something perfect and they didn't dive perfectly into old newspapers.
00:13:36.000I agree, it is disconcerting how much they love to bring family in, but because The allegations in this case would at least be something pretty serious.
00:13:46.000What really bothers me is when they've done, like, the left has done this all the time, where they'll just drag out a family member to just say, Oh, Stephen Miller is evil.
00:13:55.000Oh, here's Mary Trump to say that Donald Trump is just a piece of crap.
00:13:59.000And that actually bothers me a lot more because it is just sowing discord within families for purely political reasons.
00:14:07.000So, weirdly, I would be more bothered by it if it was a more mild attack, actually.
00:14:26.000And the thing that I want to say is that I would love for this race and this election to be about the substantive issues that impact Ohioans.
00:14:37.000And unfortunately, Amy Acton has been hiding from those issues.
00:14:43.000She doesn't allow cameras at her events.
00:14:45.000And I think her record of continuously, certainly during this campaign, I would say spreading some defamatory, disparaging lies about me and my family, that does deserve to be scrutinized.
00:14:58.000All right, so Vivek's sort of doubling down, saying, hey, she's lying about me.
00:15:05.000And they are pouring $4 million behind it.
00:15:07.000Now, I've heard a little bit behind the scenes that there were people that actually did suggest to the Ramaswamy campaign not to air this ad.
00:15:44.000These are reports that you'll hear that she was actually curled up into a ball, didn't show up, basically bailed on the job because things got tricky during COVID for a lot of states.
00:15:54.000I don't think that this person is fit to serve.
00:15:56.000I don't think that this person is mentally stable, actually.
00:16:00.000I do think there are elements of truth here.
00:16:03.000But when you have a court that convicted the person that she said abused her as a child, you've got to err on that side, in my opinion.
00:16:12.000I think this is political malfeasance to let this ad go forward because he was convicted.
00:16:17.000He was, you know, the brother is standing by her allegations and the statements she's made about their childhood.
00:16:25.000And who would know better than the brother?
00:16:28.000Regardless of the fact that there might be elements of truth in this ad, and that hearing it from her biological mother that she's apparently estranged from, that the last time she claims, Amy Acton claims that she saw her mother was in court many, many years ago, and that they've been estranged ever since.
00:16:45.000So you've kind of got to err on the side of, hey, the courts still matter.
00:17:00.000While I am conflicted because I actually do believe there is some elements of truth here, you've got to find another way to express it because this ends up being egg on your face.
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00:20:28.000Others include independents, Green Party, everybody else, other than Republican and Democrat, made 23.8%, with a total of 76,000 ballots in this morning drop.
00:20:42.000Republicans had a 1.6% vote advantage.
00:20:49.000So yesterday, we had a Maricopa drop, and we won that.
00:20:52.000So, this is the second one, and we're expecting this trend to continue within Maricopa.
00:20:58.000And so, how does that trend work out in terms of, let's compare it to 24 or 22, like what we're looking for in terms of, like, we want to win, of course, but everyone's comparing it to prior elections as well.
00:21:10.000Yeah, looking at the trend right now, it's relatively the same number.
00:21:40.000And just to put this in perspective, by the way, everybody, I actually think we're ahead of 2022.
00:21:45.000I want to check the math there, Matthew.
00:21:47.000But just to put this in perspective, we didn't win an early drop until the Friday before the election in 2022.
00:21:53.000So, Rich, you've been loud and proud out there talking about.
00:21:57.000The early vote infrastructure that's been set up in states like Nevada and Arizona.
00:22:01.000Turning Point Action is proudly, you know, embracing that movement, embracing that mantle.
00:22:07.000When you see numbers like this compared to other things you're seeing, you're seeing the effects of the door knocking, of the ballot chase.
00:22:15.000Yeah, this is why I stress this as much as I do.
00:22:18.000And you just said something I was just going to say, which is that, yeah, I know it may look like it's pretty similar, but it's very difficult.
00:22:25.000And I always caution people every year try not to overanalyze everything, but they're, Of course, are some important things to note.
00:22:39.000I would expect this trend to continue where Republicans get the early vote period, and not just Arizona, but a lot of other places as well, basically everywhere else.
00:22:47.000The early vote should and probably will get more red as time goes on.
00:22:52.000Liberals tend to front load a lot in almost all states, except for Nevada.
00:22:56.000There's some weird, like every state has its own culture, guys.
00:25:04.000But also, the numbers are showing this low propensity Republican voters are voting exponentially.
00:25:10.000And that's because of these programs that we have in these three states our Chase the Vote program, Commit 100, volunteers who are calling in Republicans left and right and ensuring that they get their ballots in.
00:25:21.000So, if you still have your ballot at home, Get it in as soon as possible.
00:25:26.000Is that the ballot that I see that you have kept at home?
00:26:04.000We'll give you the app, and then you get 100 names of low propensity voters.
00:26:08.000Rich, here's something interesting I want to get your take on.
00:26:12.000As it stands right now, and these are preliminary numbers, we got to turn out, turn out, turn out.
00:26:16.000But as it stands right now, Rich, we are winning in zero out of four, one out of four, two out of four, three out of four voters.
00:26:26.000We're winning the low props right now.
00:26:29.000I was just going to stress what he just brought up, which is that it's not just the infrastructure, and you can see it in just straight up returned ballots.
00:26:35.000The only other state is Florida, where they're doing a better job getting out low prop voters.
00:26:42.000Arizona, New Hampshire, where these vote chasing operations are, you can very clearly see a difference, guys.
00:26:50.000It is very important to get the low props in during the early vote period and cannot wait until the last minute.
00:26:56.000That's the best strategy, bank your low props early.
00:27:01.000So, you can divert the rest of your resources when we get to election day to people who are very easy to turn out and we know are high propensity.
00:27:09.000Nevada, New Hampshire, Arizona, and Florida are bright spots compared to where, honestly, Democrats are destroying Republicans in Ohio, Georgia, North Carolina, et cetera, when it comes to those low prop voters.
00:28:46.000This is the second time it's happened in this cycle.
00:28:49.000A pollster people caught somewhat suspicious looking data from Wedgwood, and we don't know if this is them trying to get ahead of it or if they are revealing what they were always doing.
00:28:58.000But this Wedgwood pollster, I do, a group that was about one point more Democratic than the consensus of polls overall.
00:29:05.000So they are a Democrat leaning pollster.
00:29:07.000They come out and they issue this letter where they say, Yeah, our polls are fake.
00:29:11.000We need to reform the polling system because you all keep falling for them.
00:29:15.000And it's you know, causing it was in Nate Silver's estimates that so many people look for, he's had to shift.
00:29:21.000His outcome in like Michigan, for example, by more than half a point just by taking out this pollster.
00:29:28.000And so, literally, a major pollster that's pro left is fake, and they admitted that it's fake.
00:29:43.000He had no intention of pretending that he was a social experiment.
00:29:46.000He was faking polls, and he was also trading on fake polls, which is a whole other level to this story.
00:29:52.000The saddest part, and I don't see the clock, but the saddest part is he only got busted because of a personal gripe that went back and forth, not because the tipper, who I know it is, thought they were going to do the right thing.
00:30:30.000I know that book has done gangbusters, Rich.
00:30:33.000And I think we're going to be confronting some of the realities that you tried to expose in that book in this midterms, hopefully not too painfully.
00:33:31.000You know, Flanagan, Wall Street Journal had a story that Flanagan was basically lying about her resume, lying about her education background.
00:33:39.000So, you know, that's another little story in Tafoya's corner here.
00:34:05.000So if there is a shocker, it's going to be either Minnesota or the one you just brought up, which in a normal year, I would just kind of, it's not like he's favored.
00:34:16.000So I don't want to give anybody a false impression.
00:34:18.000But there definitely is a path for Mike Rogers in Michigan.
00:34:32.000He's trying to reassemble like a Bernie Sanders like coalition.
00:34:37.000His idea is that you can't only leave when you're facing MAGA and angry MAGA.
00:34:42.000You can't just do what Harris and Hillary did, which is leave it up to the blue areas in southeastern Michigan and elsewhere in Ann Arbor and in Detroit.
00:34:50.000You have to go and pull some of Trump's working class base away.
00:35:14.000And if there's a marginal drop off with black voters, who, by the way, because he was on the ballot with Donald Trump in 2024, there are many young black men who voted for Mike Rogers more than they would a regular Republican already because Trump was on the ballot and they went out to vote for Trump.
00:35:32.000He didn't do as well as Trump did, but what I'm saying is there are already voters who have said, eh.
00:35:37.000I voted for this guy before, you know, so it's like it is psychological.
00:35:42.000So I look, I still think, yeah, absolutely.
00:35:47.000It's hard in a midterm, but if we were going to do it, it would be this year.
00:35:52.000Rich, it does feel to me like each race, obviously, politics is much more national than it was 20 years ago or certainly 50 years ago.
00:36:01.000But it does feel a lot of these races are suddenly taking on a very particular character to them, and that could end up bailing us out in states that would tilt blue.
00:36:12.000It feels very funny that simultaneously in red states, it feels like we're seeing some candidates like Vivek in Ohio make these mistakes where it feels like almost like there's a curse on them or bad things keep happening.
00:36:23.000But then the left is having it happen in their own states, that in Minnesota, in Michigan, in their blue tilted states, their campaigns feel a little cursed and they keep stepping in it over and over again.
00:36:34.000It's funny you say that, Blake, because a lot of people have been comparing this election to 06, but for different reasons than what I'm about to say.
00:36:40.000And I put up a table first and I thought, okay, maybe people didn't get it because it didn't seem like they did.
00:36:45.000So, I put up an interactive map showing the Democratic swing in 06.
00:36:49.000Democrats won the generic ballot by a little under eight, it was 7.9.
00:36:54.000They outperformed among the 33 Senate states by about four points.
00:36:59.000Yet, if you go around the map, the swing was weird.
00:37:36.000But when Claire McCaskill won, again, somebody who just had a special election, by the way, not that, you know, a couple years before, it was a very small pivot.
00:38:32.000I talk about jobs and industries on this show all the time, but I didn't expect to find an entire skills trade community on TikTok.
00:38:40.000Plumbers, electrician, builders, and contractors sharing the work they do every day.
00:38:44.000And it went way beyond tips and tricks.
00:38:47.000People were sharing their craft, connecting with local contractors, and talking about how they were building their businesses and growing their teams.
00:39:10.000You start with something you know, and suddenly you're finding a whole new side of it that surprises you and leaves you wanting to know more.
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00:40:16.000So, you have been doing research looking into the actual ongoing impacts of what happened at Doge.
00:40:23.000So, why don't you give our audience a reminder of what Doge actually was, what it did, and what it accomplished?
00:40:30.000Yeah, so it's tough to remember now, but Doge started out, of course, as an inside joke about.
00:40:36.000Dogecoin, a Musk favored cryptocurrency.
00:40:39.000Actually, I think it was just a random Twitter follower of Elon who suggested the name.
00:40:44.000And they took it up and it moved into an executive order.
00:40:47.000And for about six months, it became the number one story in Washington, the most important part of the earliest part of Trump's presidency, and a real effort to cut the size of government, cut the regulatory burden, and reduce spending.
00:41:01.000Now, as I try to go into a bit in the piece you referenced, it could never achieve the kind of most grandiose goals of Elon Musk, who described Trillions of dollars in savings and getting rid of the budget deficit and all that.
00:41:52.000And so, one, there is the usual play in the media was to say, look, Doge said it was going to achieve these trillions in cuts and only achieved X billion or whatever it is.
00:42:03.000And one, I think most Americans looking at those numbers say, well, any amount is pretty good.
00:42:10.000Even if it didn't achieve what Elon had hoped for, it's kind of peak of power.
00:42:16.000But what I was showing is the biggest cuts were to the civil service.
00:42:19.000So, in a year and a half, the federal government shed about 270,000 workers.
00:42:24.000So, that's about 12% of the whole workforce.
00:42:26.000This was the fastest drop in the workforce since World War II.
00:42:31.000And yeah, a lot of people claim hey, look, you know, most of government is Social Security and Medicare and all of that.
00:42:47.000A few hundred billion dollars a year is still a lot of money outside Washington, D.C., and you start adding those cuts over years and a decade, and exactly you get hundreds and billions in savings, which should have been bigger news than it was.
00:42:59.000Yeah, and like I've got these examples here Veterans Affairs shrank 27,000.
00:43:03.000The civilian side of the Department of War, 85,000 fewer civilians, which if you can cut that back, that's more money you can spend on people who fire guns, who drop bombs, who fight wars, which is not, you know, the civilian side of things.
00:43:16.000But the other thing I really want to highlight and that you drive home is that so many people predicted total disaster due to these cuts, that they were going to permanently break the federal government.
00:43:27.000And so you mentioned that, okay, we cut back the National Weather Service, but they were still able to handle.
00:43:33.000Natural disasters that occurred, that they were predicting, oh, all of these big federal database efforts that are collecting data for the country, they're all going to start falling apart.
00:43:43.000And I think you have this number, it was about 40 of our data sets broke down out of over half a million of these, apparently.
00:43:51.000Or USAID, that they cut staff by 90%, but the amount of money being spent on the direct health aid that they said would be catastrophically lost, that actually is about where it's been historically.
00:44:06.000In fact, let's dive into that one specifically because this is the big attack on Doge that they cut back USAID, and as a result, millions of people died somewhere.
00:44:18.000Yeah, so the USAID claims and arguments was kind of the centerpiece of the case against Doge.
00:44:24.000And I'll fully admit up front, a lot of this stuff is impossible to know.
00:44:27.000We can't know exactly what changed after some of the Doge cuts went into effect.
00:44:33.000We actually don't even know what the spending in the last year has really been on health.
00:44:38.000What I try to show is what you mentioned is that the actual health spending that was appropriated by Congress was pretty stable to what it was historically.
00:44:46.000You know, up, frankly, from the early 2000s.
00:44:48.000It's a classic story of Washington anything that's not a huge increase must be a drastic cut.
00:44:54.000But actually, we have these relatively strong levels of spending continuing.
00:44:59.000Now, yeah, most of the cuts, though, when people talk about 90% of USAID being devastated, they are talking about that civilian workforce.
00:45:09.000Which is where the Doge cuts actually really kind of pinch for much of the federal government.
00:45:14.000And that doesn't mean millions of people are going to die if you don't have a big USAID workforce.
00:45:21.000Just like to your point about the Department of War, those 80,000 cuts to the Department of War didn't mean the Trump administration cut military spending.
00:45:29.000It obviously increased military spending.
00:45:31.000But what it was trying to do is show, hey, we can get more without the same bureaucracy.
00:45:36.000And that was similar to the case for USAID.
00:45:38.000And partially to your point about the National Weather Service and everything else, You know, you've had every journalist in DC and elsewhere desperately looking for these cases of how terrible the cuts have been for the country.
00:45:50.000And as I try to go through case by case, they just really haven't found them yet.
00:46:42.000We still have about a 2 million person federal workforce.
00:46:45.000And, you know, it's, Huge enough that I think most people, even that are supporters of that size of the workforce, couldn't explain what a lot of it does.
00:46:55.000Like I try to point out in the piece too, if you look about that 2 million, 1.4 million works for either Department of War, Veterans Affairs, or Department of Homeland Security.
00:47:05.000So the large majority work for departments that Republicans tend to support on the whole.
00:47:10.000Now, that doesn't mean you can't cut those in the civil service workforce in them.
00:47:14.000Again, I think the Trump administration and Doge showed you can do that.
00:47:17.000But is there a lot of fat in the government to cut?
00:47:45.000Danny in the chat was telling us, Judge, that if you were a college football player, you'd be making millions on NIL just for the jersey sales alone.
00:47:56.000And I think there's a lot of people that would love to have Glock on the back of their.
00:48:35.000And is this fraud task force kind of the natural outgrowth of what started under Doge?
00:48:41.000So, yeah, I mean, Doge is interesting on a bunch of levels because even though it was called a department, it actually, of course, wasn't a department.
00:48:48.000It was something that was created by executive order and they actually didn't really have a clear line item for it.
00:48:54.000It was a bunch of people that moved into different agencies and kind of got Doge stamped on their name because they were associated with Elon or his top official, Steve Davis.
00:49:05.000If you look at Doge at its peak, the people who are actually working for Doge, you're really only talking about, you know, 100, 120 people.
00:49:15.000You had one of the biggest stories in Washington, absolutely huge changes in government being carried out by, you know, around 100 people in this 2.3 million person workforce.
00:50:00.000It's so many stories in the past year and a half, it's hard to remember all of them.
00:50:04.000But for a while, that was a pretty wild story.
00:50:07.000So, yeah, so the falling out between Elon, Elon and the Doge team had.
00:50:12.000Really, let's say, pissed off a lot of people in the rest of the government.
00:50:15.000They had pushed very far and very fast to cut things, including in agencies that got Trump's ear and were a little upset about the scale of the cuts.
00:50:25.000Now, I've talked to people since who've admitted that, hey, I thought they went too far and too fast, but in retrospect, that was probably the only way to get it done.
00:50:37.000The proof is in the pudding of what they accomplished.
00:50:39.000And it did continue to exist as this digital reform effort in what's called the General Services Administration.
00:50:46.000I think that's really smart and I think it's accurate because that was some of the things I was hearing.
00:50:52.000I was hearing some of the even cabinet secretaries were upset because these Doge people would come into their departments and just start slashing things.
00:50:59.000And they're like, hey, am I the boss here or not?
00:51:01.000And so it caused a lot of little tension within the administration because Elon Musk, if you know his history and anything, he's willing to go in and break glass.
00:51:10.000He's willing to go in and disrupt the status quo.
00:51:13.000So when we look at some of the stuff that we're seeing now with SNAP benefits, they're doing these big purges of the databases, the Social Security Administration, you're getting a big purge of these Social Security numbers that illegals had, or there were duplicates.
00:51:28.000In this anti fraud task force, are these seeds that were planted under Doge and they've just sort of taken new form?
00:51:34.000Is it fair to say, in another sense, Doge has continued on?
00:51:42.000So, again, when Doge was such a small entity and when it really didn't even have its own power base, it was effectively an arm of the White House.
00:51:50.000It had power because people knew Elon had Trump's ear and they knew they had support inside the White House itself.
00:51:56.000And so people had to listen to them, even if they weren't formally on an org chart.
00:52:02.000And so that ethos did carry out in the rest of the government, and anti fraud became a prominent part of the Trump agenda.
00:52:10.000It obviously was a big part of the SNAP cuts and the Medicaid cuts in the One Big Beautiful Bill Act.
00:52:17.000It's become a huge part of Vice President JD Vance's work, and it's been a part of all of the different agencies in government now, partially because of what Doge did, and partially just because people got upset about the scale of fraud that came out of COVID.
00:52:32.000They rightfully saw the hundreds of billions of dollars lost in fraud, and nobody was doing anything about it in the Biden administration.
00:52:39.000So I think just time came around and people started to take this seriously in a way they weren't three or four years ago, or frankly, even before the pandemic.
00:52:47.000So, Judge Blake tells me you are also really, really versed on housing, which seems like a departure of what we're talking about, but it's really not in a sense because we got these great Charlie tweets.
00:53:00.000He says, We need to quickly deport 20 million illegals and build 10 million new homes.
00:53:04.000You know, again, he says, if we don't improve the economic condition of young Americans, Mamdani and the destructive ideas he espouses will continue to spread.
00:53:11.000We need a moonshot, Manhattan Project style 10 million new homes in three years, 20 million deportations and self deportations, reform and reduce legal immigration.
00:53:21.000When it comes to housing, this is kind of where Charlie's head was at.
00:53:25.000Is that where your head is at with housing?
00:53:28.000Because it's such a huge issue to our young people at Turning Point, across the country, that are worried they're not going to be able to afford the American dream.
00:53:36.000What are you looking at in this space specifically?
00:53:38.000So, yeah, on the immigration issue, there's been a huge amount of debate, and I get a lot of pushback for simply pointing out that you add around 7 million plus people as we did during the peak of the Biden year's immigration surge.
00:53:53.000That's going to increase housing prices in the short term.
00:53:55.000Housing does not suddenly get built when there's a huge surge of immigrants.
00:53:59.000If you push them out, you're going to see proportionate reductions in housing prices.
00:54:03.000Now, that's not the main reason for increased housing prices, but was it a factor in the run up during the Biden years?
00:54:10.000Now, on the building side of it, That is still the number one issue.
00:54:16.000I used to be an econ professor, and I used to joke to my students that if I ever wake you up in the middle of a class and you didn't know what the question was, just say supply and demand, and that's probably the right answer to whatever I was asking.
00:54:29.000The demand went high, partially because of the immigration, partially because of the work from home tendencies during the pandemic, and the supply didn't increase.
00:54:37.000We need to build more, but the government has gotten too much in the way of building, both the federal, state, and local level, and we're not doing enough of it.
00:54:45.000Now, there's been a lot of effort to push at the federal level to open up more housing.
00:54:50.000But frankly, what this has to do is happen at the state and local level.
00:54:53.000And it often has to be a kind of trench warfare, piece by piece, house by house.
00:54:59.000Maybe that's urban warfare, I guess, more than trench warfare, until you actually get this stuff built.
00:55:03.000And luckily, we're seeing places like Texas and Florida doing it, but places like California and New York aren't.
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00:57:22.000This was not going to be pursued if it was going to be perceived as political.
00:57:26.000Now we're hearing that they have her DNA, that they're looking into multiple different avenues from immigration fraud to maybe some of these issues with the finances.
00:57:38.000We're hearing from James Comer in the House that they were sending barrels of wine that were empty.
00:57:44.000I mean, tell us what you know and what you're perceiving from the signs you're seeing publicly released, what the DOJ, what the DHS, HSI are looking at specifically with Ilhan Omar.
00:57:58.000She has been one of the most scrutinized members of Congress ever since she joined.
00:58:03.000Even whenever she was running in the local elections in Minnesota, there were members, famously, the Powerline blog, which was publishing reports saying that she had married her brother, that she was engaged in immigration fraud, perhaps even she was engaged in bigamy.
00:58:16.000Actually, even before this interview, I was reading reports dating back to 2018 accusing her of committing various crimes.
00:58:23.000And so the notion that she is committing crimes or something is awry is not new.
00:58:30.000Two federal grand juries investigating her.
00:58:33.000The fact that a judge in Washington, D.C., a magistrate judge in Washington, D.C., a place not known to be particularly friendly to Donald Trump or MAGA politics, signed off on a search warrant of her D.C. residence.
00:58:45.000Individuals went in there, they collected her passport, they collected her laptop, they collected her phone.
00:58:51.000I mean, this shows a real, I would say, wave of law enforcement actions.
00:58:57.000In addition, you have the U.S. attorney in D.C., Janine Pirro, also talking about issues with her financial disclosure.
00:59:04.000And looking into that, what's going on there?
00:59:06.000And so I would say, from the both immigration fraud angle, from a financial disclosure angle, Ileana Omar must be feeling the walls closing in on her.
00:59:50.000I just wanted to say thank you so much for the support to everyone who sent a note of support for everyone who sent $5, $10, $20.
01:00:02.000That goes a long way as we fight Trump and His administration for trying to intimidate me and so many people right before the midterm elections.
01:00:53.000Yeah, I would say it's not strange once you've lived in DC and you understand how DC works, because politicians will take every effort to put themselves in the spotlight and every effort to raise dollars.
01:01:07.000It really is a shame that that is where our democracy has turned to, is that.
01:01:11.000If you were on the verge of an indictment, if you were being actively investigated, you were pleading to donors saying, Hey, give me more money, give me more money, give me more money.
01:01:21.000I mean, it's the same way that, you know, Dr. Fauci would go, and as soon as he left government and after convincing everybody, you know, numerous jurisdictions to take way too draconian efforts, then saying, Oh, hey, now I need to go raise money.
01:01:45.000The American people want accountability.
01:01:46.000And so to use this as a fundraising effort, I'm not surprised by that, but it really just shows the disgusting state, I think, of our politics today.
01:01:55.000Now, the DNA thing is interesting, right?
01:02:01.000If there's evidence that she married her brother, right?
01:02:04.000If that marriage was a sham, that's why you've seen some reports saying that there's potentially an immigration conspiracy violation, or essentially that she conspired with her brother, perhaps among other people, in order to secure citizenship for somebody else.
01:02:20.000She was said to have become a US citizen in 2000.
01:02:24.000I don't believe some of the allegations relating to her brother and things like that ended up happening until several years later.
01:02:32.000So it's not necessarily clear that it would impact her own citizenship, but it could give rise to a conspiracy theory and a conspiracy charge.
01:02:41.000And just to be clear, would it be illegal for her to raise campaign dollars than to funnel that for personal criminal defense legal work?
01:02:51.000You know, how the FEC works and labels campaign dollars is incredibly tricky.
01:02:56.000So, and I'm not an expert in it, so I'd hesitate to say it would be illegal.
01:03:01.000You know, it's a sort of complicated, fact specific test regarding whether specific dollars you are bringing in are related to campaign, is a legal effort, you know, related to a campaign.
01:03:11.000You could argue, right, that certainly a legal effort, as for lawyers are sending letters to DOJ, leaking letters that they've sent to the DOJ, right?
01:03:19.000It certainly has a feel for the campaign.
01:03:21.000It certainly impacts the campaign, that's for sure.
01:03:23.000But, you know, whether it actually is a campaign violation or not, it's tough for me to say.
01:03:28.000I will say one thing, though, that is important.
01:03:30.000People have talked about statute of limitations.
01:03:32.000People have talked about is she going to go to jail?
01:03:35.000Here's something that is unequivocal, and I think it picks up on something that Secretary Mullen said that this is not political.
01:03:42.000It is a longstanding rule in U.S. immigration law that if you commit fraud in the process of becoming a U.S. citizen, or if you are dependent on somebody else, in this instance, her father, and he committed fraud in the process of becoming a U.S. citizen, and therefore your citizenship was fraudulently.
01:04:02.000Obtained, there is a long standing process by which the Department of Justice will bring a civil suit against you in order to denaturalize you, revoke your U.S. citizenship, and then ultimately deport you.
01:04:16.000And so I think that really needs to be highlighted here.
01:04:19.000You know, regardless of what's going on in the investigation, and again, I'm seeing a lot, I'm hearing a lot, it's clear that there's a lot swirling here.
01:04:27.000But the one thing to me that seems to be crystal clear is that if they can prove that she committed Fraud or that there was any fraud surrounding her becoming a U.S. citizen, her citizenship is eligible to be revoked.
01:04:42.000And if it is revoked, then she will be deported from the United States.
01:05:08.000Obviously, we've seen there's a lot of shadiness embedded within that wider community.
01:05:11.000Do you think we could get a funny outcome where maybe we don't denaturalize Ilhan Omar, but we just end up with a bunch of process crimes along the way and she's just destroyed by that, the same way they got a lot of Trump people on process stuff with the Russia collusion hoax, for example?
01:05:29.000I'll also say that I think it's entirely possible that she goes through this election, right?
01:05:34.000She's going to continue pouring money into it.
01:05:36.000She's going to continue to try to win if by chance she does win.
01:05:40.000This election, I think she probably waits until the first week of January.
01:05:44.000And if she really feels the pressure, if she really thinks that the walls are closing in on her, I wouldn't be surprised if she resigns from Congress in order to try to take the pressure off her, maybe sort of negotiate some sort of backroom deal to say, listen, I'm going to step away and resign.
01:05:58.000And then you're in an instance where you have an open seat, the governor's appointing that seat, potentially triggering special election laws.
01:06:04.000I'm not familiar with the specific laws governing Minnesota and how those things work, but could potentially trigger a special election.
01:06:12.000And now we'd have a really important seat.
01:06:15.000Yeah, I mean, it's very interesting, especially on the backdrop of what President Trump has just announced this fraud whistleblower incentive program.
01:06:24.000I'm going to play the clip just to give the full rundown here.
01:06:41.000Independent journalists and everybody and all Americans will now be able to go to the Fraud.gov and report cases of corruption and theft of taxpayer dollars in their communities, all via a new website.
01:06:55.000Anybody that can prove that he turned somebody in, we are giving a commission to that person of 1%.
01:08:49.000I'm going to do my best to unpack several layers of this.
01:08:52.000The first thing that's really important to mention.
01:08:54.000Is that it's not just talking about voter rolls.
01:08:56.000We're talking about under California law who gets a mail in ballot.
01:09:01.000California isn't just expecting every citizen to show up and vote in person like they do in Florida where I'm from, and you have to specially request a mail in ballot.
01:09:09.000Everybody is automatically given a mail in ballot.
01:09:12.000That's a huge problem if you have non citizens on your roll because you might have somebody who says, listen, I was applying for a driver's license, I checked a box, I accidentally registered to vote, I'm not a citizen, you know, mea culpa, and I didn't even show up to vote.
01:09:27.000That's no longer true if a ballot is showing up at your address.
01:09:29.000Whether you're filling it out, whether somebody else in your household is filling it out, it creates a serious problem.
01:09:37.000DOJ and the Department of Homeland Security went through the voter rolls, which they had access to.
01:09:41.000They also went through the immigration database, which they also own and have access to.
01:09:45.000And they compared names, addresses, date of births.
01:09:50.000And they said, based on our overview of your voter rolls and our immigration database, we think these 20,000 human beings who you're about to send a ballot to, Who you in fact did send a ballot to in this particular case are not citizens and therefore not eligible to vote.
01:10:06.000Please do not send them a ballot, or if it's too late, at least segregate these ballots until we figure out and get to the bottom of this.
01:10:13.000California the entire time said, What are you talking about?
01:10:15.000We follow the law, we follow the rules, we're doing everything we're supposed to do.
01:10:19.000And now, this huge, huge, huge admission in court where they're saying, We actually have no clue whether these individuals are citizens or not.
01:10:28.000I think you are actually opening out not only to probably like the biggest evidence of gross negligence that I've ever seen, but at some point, I wonder have they crossed the criminal line?
01:10:39.000Whenever the Department of Justice is telling you, you are allowing non citizens to vote, you are sending non citizens a ballot.
01:10:47.000And you refuse to take corrective actions to fix that problem.
01:11:05.000I find myself, I almost go the other way in terms of I'm getting really worried.
01:11:09.000It does seem like California, a big state, it's almost like they're just trying to get away with if they just say, we're going to not enforce any election laws at all.
01:11:21.000What if California just basically just started pretending all of these illegals were citizens?
01:11:25.000They started giving them every document they could.
01:11:28.000Is there some chance where California could just massively foul up our entire system?
01:11:34.000And basically, what if they laundered non citizens as citizens and basically did a California level amnesty and they just screwed it up for the whole country?
01:11:43.000Would it be possible for them to get away with something like that if they attempted it?
01:11:48.000I actually think we've seen instances of that happening elsewhere, not on the same scale, not at the same level.
01:11:53.000But think about what broke in New Jersey.
01:11:55.000I think it was a couple months ago where they said, oops, you know, via a glitch, we ended up registering thousands of non citizens, thousands of aliens to vote.
01:12:03.000But don't worry, we only have evidence that a fraction of them actually voted in the election.
01:12:09.000Some of these elections that you know come down to just a handful of votes.
01:12:12.000But it's a bigger picture issue, right?
01:12:37.000How come it takes you guys weeks and weeks and weeks to count votes?
01:12:41.000How come the votes that come in at the end, the tail end of your counting period, always seem to give an edge to that one candidate who nobody thought was actually competitive in the race?
01:13:06.000Listen, I think the states have been wise.
01:13:09.000I'll pour to my home state of Florida, where I'm actually sitting right now.
01:13:14.000I think that they've done a great job when it comes to redistricting.
01:13:16.000I think it comes a great job when it comes to cleaning out corrupt officials who are often in Democrat cities, who I think have for too long turned a blind eye to what's going on in some of the corruption that we've seen in the voting.
01:13:31.000But even if it's not corruption, Right?
01:13:33.000Like we talk a lot about the criminal side, and certainly that was a big focus of mine, what I was doing at DOJ and Homeland Security.
01:13:40.000But there's just also an incompetence level, right?
01:13:43.000It is just sheer incompetence for LA, one of the largest, most populous counties in the entire United States, to say we actually have no way of knowing whether somebody who is coming up is a U.S. citizen or not.
01:14:34.000And they're refusing to do the basic steps that they could do to verify the citizenship of these voters, which is troubling.
01:14:41.000I mean, You know, there's a whole part of this conversation I wanted to get to with you, Chad, about federal databases, right?
01:14:48.000This is why President Trump signed the EO that the USPS was only going to deliver ballots to people that were, you know, on the federal voter database.
01:14:58.000And the states, all these blue states, went and sued them.
01:15:00.000There's something there that they do not want to reveal.
01:15:03.000And by the way, all of this has implications for the census coming up in 2030.