The Charlie Kirk Show - October 22, 2026


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00:00:03.000 My name is Charlie Kirk.
00:00:05.000 I run the largest pro American student organization in the country fighting for the future of our republic.
00:00:11.000 My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth.
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00:01:18.000 Welcome, everybody.
00:01:18.000 It's October 22nd, 2026, just days ahead of the 2026 midterm.
00:01:25.000 So much news breaking.
00:01:27.000 Blake is holding it down in Phoenix at the Y Refi Studios.
00:01:30.000 How are we doing, Blake?
00:01:31.000 We're doing lovely, Andrew.
00:01:33.000 Lots of news, lots of news.
00:01:34.000 But first, we have a very special guest in studio with Blake.
00:01:37.000 Unfortunately, I'm on assignment today, but Blake is holding it down being a good host.
00:01:41.000 And that is Scott Cooper.
00:01:42.000 He's the director of the United States Office of Personnel, Personal Management, an OPM.
00:01:48.000 It is a huge, huge job.
00:01:50.000 Scott, thank you for being in studio and visiting us in Phoenix.
00:01:53.000 I'm sorry I can't be there in person with you.
00:01:55.000 But Blake, as you've probably already realized, is a great host, very hospitable, warm host.
00:02:02.000 Thank you so much again, though, for coming.
00:02:04.000 And you have so much going on in your world that you inhabit, that you're directing in Washington, and so many opportunities for young people.
00:02:13.000 Of course, this comes.
00:02:15.000 After a U.S. senator basically issued threats against young people coming to Washington, so the timing couldn't be better.
00:02:23.000 But why don't we start with your job, your office, what you're doing, the initiatives that you are overseeing currently?
00:02:29.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:02:30.000 Well, first of all, thanks for having me.
00:02:31.000 And yes, Blake has been a fantastic host.
00:02:33.000 We've been, you know, having coffee, doing all kinds of fun things.
00:02:35.000 So it's great.
00:02:37.000 Hey, so what do I do?
00:02:39.000 What's the Office of Personnel Management?
00:02:41.000 So the very simple way to think about it is we have responsibility for the 2 million civilian employees that basically show up in Health and Human Services, IRS, all your favorite.
00:02:49.000 You know, three letter agencies that you might be aware of.
00:02:52.000 And our job is to make sure, really, two things.
00:02:54.000 One is that we have the right talent so that we can actually deliver on behalf of the American people.
00:02:57.000 And then two is that we have the appropriate culture and efficiency and other things to make sure that we can actually deliver for the American people without completely bankrupting our kids and grandkids.
00:03:05.000 So those are the things we're focused on.
00:03:07.000 I feel like efficiency is not a word you usually associate with government.
00:03:10.000 But we actually talked to a journalist and analyst, Judge Glock, yesterday, and he was talking about that actually Doge, for example, did significantly streamline.
00:03:22.000 Within the federal government.
00:03:24.000 Are you seeing that progress work out for Americans every day?
00:03:27.000 Yeah, we are.
00:03:29.000 Your listeners may know this, but actually, Doge oversaw kind of the largest reduction in headcount that we've had, I think, literally since like the Civil War II, I think.
00:03:36.000 I think that's right, yeah.
00:03:38.000 So close to like 300,000 people left the government last year.
00:03:41.000 That's about a 13, 14% reduction in headcount.
00:03:44.000 And look, there's still 2 million people, so it's not as if like this thing is running on a shoestring.
00:03:49.000 But yeah, part of what we have to do now is we've got to take the work that Doge did and we've got to institutionalize it.
00:03:53.000 So, we're trying, you know, I use the term we've got to make efficiency a first class citizen in government.
00:03:57.000 And this is not just about cutting stuff.
00:03:59.000 It's about figuring out, okay, can we do more for the American people?
00:04:01.000 But every time we want to do more, the answer shouldn't be we go to Congress and we ask for more headcount.
00:04:05.000 We ought to be able to use technology, use operational change, process change, you know, normal techniques that organizations use to be able to actually get more out of the people who are there.
00:04:14.000 So that's a big part of what we're trying to do.
00:04:16.000 Excellent.
00:04:16.000 Excellent.
00:04:17.000 Well, so listen, we've got some headlines here.
00:04:19.000 U.S. government workforce shrinks by 12% since 2024.
00:04:23.000 That's 149.
00:04:24.000 You can throw that up.
00:04:26.000 150.
00:04:27.000 U.S. federal workforce drops to lowest level in 60 years after Trump.
00:04:31.000 Purge hundreds of thousands of employees.
00:04:34.000 Federal workforce numbers under Trump at lowest levels since 1960.
00:04:38.000 So it's a little bit ironic in some ways that you're here with an opportunity, Mr. Director.
00:04:46.000 So why don't you explain this very exciting initiative, especially for if you are one of our students at our chapters across the country and you're interested in working in Washington despite the threats levied against you by Alyssa Slotkin?
00:05:00.000 But it's a great opportunity, and I want our students especially to hear this.
00:05:04.000 Yeah, no, it is a great opportunity.
00:05:06.000 And you're right.
00:05:06.000 Look, what's really happening kind of under the covers here is we are reshaping the federal workforce.
00:05:10.000 So, yes, part of this is there was a lot of obviously reductions last year, but the fundamental challenge we have in the federal government is only 7% of our workforce is under the age of 30.
00:05:21.000 So, I'm guessing, I don't know, I'm guessing probably 90% of your listeners are under the age of 30 or something like that.
00:05:26.000 Just so you have a comparison, in the total U.S. workforce, about 23% of the workforce is under the age of 30.
00:05:32.000 So, that means the government has just whiffed by literally a factor of three to one.
00:05:35.000 We've done a terrible job of Going on to college campuses and telling people why they should come join the government.
00:05:39.000 And notwithstanding Senator Slotkin's appeal that nobody should do that because they're going to put them all in jail, that's not at all the way we think about it.
00:05:49.000 What we want is we want patriotic people who care about the future of this country who are willing to say, hey, I'm not asking you to commit a 40 year career, by the way.
00:05:56.000 I'm saying, hey, come spend two years, come work on some of the hardest, most complex, most interesting problems.
00:06:00.000 And then, by the way, if you decide you want to go to the private sector, you want to the nonprofit sector, all the skills you develop in the federal government are going to be perfectly generalizable to that.
00:06:08.000 Even if you do stay long term, we need that too because we've seen why was the bureaucracy often so left wing, even in Trump one, even in Trump two today?
00:06:17.000 It's because it is filled up with so many committed ideologue career people.
00:06:21.000 And we need people who have a conservative disposition to be in the federal government because it can stop that from happening.
00:06:28.000 Yeah, no, I think that's a fair point.
00:06:30.000 And look, we just need fundamentally, we need people who love this country, who believe in the Constitution, who are saying, hey, look, I actually want to be part of the solution to the problems.
00:06:38.000 You know, the other thing we just need is look, we need fresh thinking, right?
00:06:41.000 So, part of the problem of having, you know, only 7% of your workforce that's early career is you just don't have new ideas.
00:06:49.000 You don't have things going on.
00:06:50.000 I'll tell you a quick story.
00:06:50.000 So, when I first got there, one of my managers said, you know, you're ruining everything.
00:06:55.000 And I was like, wow, that's an interesting way to kind of start a conversation.
00:06:58.000 And I said, well, tell me more.
00:06:59.000 She said, well, you're ruining everything because our whole pitch to people has been come to the federal government and you have a permanent job for the next 40 years.
00:07:05.000 And, you know, I said to her, I said, look, you're not going to like me anymore when you hear my response.
00:07:09.000 But that is the worst pitch I've ever heard to an eight To 26 year old, right?
00:07:13.000 Like, look, you all know this demographic better than anybody, but I've got kids in this demographic.
00:07:18.000 I guarantee you they're not thinking about 40 year careers.
00:07:20.000 And so we have to kind of dispel this notion that you make a decision at the age of 22 and like that's what you do.
00:07:26.000 And exactly to your point, if you love being in the federal government and you want to contribute, great.
00:07:30.000 We'd love to have you.
00:07:31.000 If you decide you want to do it for some period of time and then you want to go do other things or you want to come back at a later date, all that is goodness.
00:07:37.000 And we've got to just stop this, you know, silly dichotomy that like there's a path to take in life and, you know, that's totally one directional.
00:07:44.000 Yeah.
00:07:44.000 So we.
00:07:45.000 Well, you say there's a lot of these big opportunities out there for young people, but that still can kind of go over their head.
00:07:52.000 They aren't thinking, is that for me?
00:07:54.000 What are maybe specific roles that a lot of young people have where they actually should be thinking, I should go apply to the federal government?
00:08:00.000 Yeah.
00:08:01.000 So here's again, I think this is great.
00:08:02.000 Here's, I think, the misnomer.
00:08:03.000 So there's people, you know, we're spending some time at ASU today, and I'm sure they have a public policy program.
00:08:07.000 So those people know what the government jobs are.
00:08:09.000 But I think what people forget is the government is the single largest employer, whether we like that or not, it's true.
00:08:15.000 And so every single job that exists in a company exists in the government.
00:08:18.000 So what we're hiring for are HR people, financial analysts, you know, program managers, IT people, security people.
00:08:24.000 Like there's a whole law enforcement, you know, set of folks who work in government.
00:08:27.000 So, Yes, like it's great if you want to do policy stuff, and we'd love to have you.
00:08:31.000 At the end of the day, though, every single job that you might do as part of your broad career, you can do that in the federal government.
00:08:35.000 And that's really the critical area where we're really trying to get people excited.
00:08:39.000 Yeah, I mean, there's so many questions here, too.
00:08:41.000 And I love what Blake was drilling down on is getting more specifics.
00:08:45.000 It's like if you are a college, you're about to graduate, or by the way, Director Cooper, we have something called communities, which is a bunch of young professionals, our alums that we need to get this out to immediately.
00:08:58.000 Let's start there.
00:08:59.000 Where do people go to apply?
00:09:01.000 Where can they go?
00:09:02.000 Let's just start dropping the URL right now.
00:09:04.000 Awesome.
00:09:04.000 Okay.
00:09:04.000 So everybody go to earlycareers.gov.
00:09:07.000 Okay.
00:09:07.000 Earlycareers.gov.
00:09:08.000 Really easy to find it.
00:09:09.000 You register there.
00:09:10.000 And then let me give you a real call to action.
00:09:13.000 On October 29th, which I think is literally a week from today, or maybe even less than a week from today, we are doing the first ever cross government, I'll call it a hire a palooza, for lack of a better word.
00:09:22.000 We're going to have 16 agencies who are literally going to use an online campaign and do online interviews with folks.
00:09:28.000 And we're going to make job offers on the spot on October 29th.
00:09:31.000 Whoa.
00:09:31.000 That's awesome.
00:09:33.000 Wow.
00:09:34.000 All right.
00:09:35.000 That's fantastic.
00:09:36.000 We, I mean, we got to get this out to our whole network and we're going to work on that.
00:09:39.000 Thank you.
00:09:40.000 So we got the URL up there earlycareers.gov.
00:09:45.000 So that's what I'm saying.
00:09:46.000 I want to look at these signature cases and not just focus on the president, but on the people who enabled him.
00:09:52.000 I want young people coming out of school to say, Should I go work for the Trump administration?
00:09:57.000 Like, that sounds fun.
00:09:58.000 I might get an opportunity.
00:10:00.000 I want them to be like, Lord, that might be buying myself a ton of problems that I don't want.
00:10:06.000 And so let me.
00:10:07.000 Avoid participating in that.
00:10:09.000 I want that deterrence message.
00:10:12.000 That's Alyssa Slotkin from Michigan, former CIA.
00:10:17.000 I'm sure that's fine.
00:10:19.000 Scott, director.
00:10:21.000 She said she didn't say that, Admiral.
00:10:24.000 But I'm glad you guys actually put it in the chat.
00:10:26.000 I hate it when they say things, when they don't say things that are undetermined.
00:10:29.000 And then they say they didn't.
00:10:31.000 Exactly.
00:10:32.000 That's literally Scott Jennings' whole job on CIA.
00:10:34.000 I know, I know.
00:10:35.000 He does a good job.
00:10:36.000 It's funny.
00:10:37.000 Yeah, so director of the U.S. OPM office, huge, huge responsibility.
00:10:42.000 So here you have a sitting U.S. Senator, Scott, Director Cooper, and she's saying, Hey, I want this deterrence.
00:10:48.000 Young people don't come to Washington, and here you are on our show, and you are saying the exact opposite.
00:10:53.000 So what is your response?
00:10:55.000 Yeah, look, I put a tweet out this morning on it.
00:10:58.000 My advice to early career folks is listen to your mother, don't listen to Alyssa Slotkin, and actually, you know, go get a real job.
00:11:05.000 But in all honesty, look, I think it's just totally irresponsible, you know.
00:11:09.000 And look, I get it.
00:11:10.000 Obviously, everything in DC is political, so it's very hard to get away from that.
00:11:13.000 But at the end of the day, the idea that you don't want young people who actually care about this country coming to work for the country, like, I just can't imagine a worse message.
00:11:23.000 And again, I know she wants to politicize this and saying this is just kind of, you know, that everything that President Trump touches, unfortunately, she doesn't think is good.
00:11:32.000 But the point is, at the end of the day, if you are an American citizen, do you want young, smart people who actually care about this country working on your behalf?
00:11:41.000 And doing so in a way that actually delivers like appropriate goods and services to the American people.
00:11:45.000 I just don't understand how that's political.
00:11:47.000 I don't understand how you can argue with that.
00:11:49.000 And so, yes, my answer to everybody in your audience is do what's right for you in your career, which is help your country and actually help build your skill set.
00:11:58.000 Don't be scared away by people who are trying to dissuade you from doing what I think is actually one of the highest callings anybody can do.
00:12:04.000 Yeah, I totally agree.
00:12:05.000 And for people who don't understand, Washington is staffed by predominantly young people between the ages of 22 and 30 or 35.
00:12:15.000 So, if you are listening to this and you feel called to serve your country, to step into the breach, I mean, it sounds like you're never going to have a better opportunity than what you said, October 29th?
00:12:27.000 October 29th is the first.
00:12:27.000 Yeah, it's the first of these.
00:12:28.000 And we're going to do a bunch of them.
00:12:30.000 And just to put a pin on it right so the president has put out a goal for us that we have now kind of relayed to all the different agencies.
00:12:37.000 And what he said is, I want a third of every new hire in the federal government to be early career.
00:12:42.000 And again, to give you a sense of what that means, on average, depending on the year the government hires, let's call it 100,000 people a year.
00:12:48.000 So you're literally talking 30 plus thousand people who could have an opportunity to come serve their government.
00:12:54.000 And you all know this.
00:12:55.000 I'm sure you read the headlines every day.
00:12:56.000 Everybody's bemoaning the fact that, you know, kind of unemployment rates for, you know, younger and early career folks are not great.
00:13:03.000 You know, there is no better opportunity if you actually want to develop a skill set than to actually take advantage of this opportunity that the government is providing for you.
00:13:09.000 Yeah, especially 100%.
00:13:12.000 Like the nature of the federal government is transforming a lot.
00:13:15.000 Like this administration is aggressively embracing AI or super intelligence, as he calls it, which means you'll be on the ground floor of a new federal government that's getting created, lots of new skills.
00:13:25.000 I'm looking at.
00:13:26.000 Your recent grad page.
00:13:28.000 Let's throw up that URL again.
00:13:31.000 Early careers.gov.
00:13:33.000 Don't remember on October 29th.
00:13:35.000 They're doing mass interviews.
00:13:38.000 You said during the break you're hoping to hire how many people?
00:13:40.000 Yeah, I think we're hoping on this one day to get close to 500 people literally hired.
00:13:44.000 So the goal is apply to early careers.gov.
00:13:47.000 We have 16 different agencies who are going to review applications ahead of October 29th.
00:13:51.000 We're going to use some, I won't mention the vendor because I don't know enough about it, but we're using some cool outside vendor to basically do virtual interviews with people.
00:14:00.000 And then our goal is to literally give job offers on the spot on October 29th to people who qualify.
00:14:05.000 Yeah.
00:14:05.000 And I'm looking through some of the jobs that pop up when you go through this portal.
00:14:08.000 It's all sorts of stuff.
00:14:09.000 Do you want to be a pediatric dentist in Gallup, New Mexico?
00:14:14.000 $107,000 starting per year if you have that.
00:14:17.000 You're hiring law clerks who can be converted to full time attorneys at the IRS.
00:14:23.000 So if you're getting a JD or LLM, a lot of human resources specialists.
00:14:27.000 We have an insulator.
00:14:29.000 Someone can get hired as an insulator if that's your skill set, IT, psychologist.
00:14:33.000 Blind rehabilitation, all of these great jobs.
00:14:38.000 And you mentioned it, by the way, and I think it's really important for people to know.
00:14:41.000 Every single job is not in D.C.
00:14:42.000 So, in fact, only about 12, 13% of the federal government actually jobs are in D.C.
00:14:46.000 So, you saw this one in New Mexico.
00:14:48.000 This is not for most people.
00:14:49.000 If you don't want to be in D.C., I get it.
00:14:50.000 That's totally fine.
00:14:52.000 So, look for your local location, basically.
00:14:54.000 Almost all these federal jobs actually are being done in field offices that are all over the place.
00:15:00.000 The other thing I want to mention, if I could, if we have one more second, is it's one thing to obviously recruit people.
00:15:05.000 The question then is, like, what Does the government look like when they get there?
00:15:07.000 And as you all mentioned, a huge portion of what we've been doing is reforming the federal government process.
00:15:12.000 So I'll give you just a quick stat.
00:15:14.000 So historically, everybody got an A in the federal government.
00:15:17.000 So we're here near a college campus.
00:15:19.000 Great inflation, obviously, is always a fun topic.
00:15:21.000 And the problem with everybody getting an A is that means there's no incentive for people who are super hardworking to actually do what they're doing.
00:15:28.000 Right.
00:15:28.000 Because if you excel, you're treated no differently than anyone else.
00:15:31.000 So for the first time this year, actually, we have a force curve now in the federal government on employee ratings.
00:15:36.000 So, no more than 40% of people in the federal government can be actually rated in the top group.
00:15:41.000 And that's still, quite frankly, a big number.
00:15:43.000 But historically, that number was like 70, 80%, which is crazy.
00:15:46.000 But the whole point of this is if you are a smart, diligent, like young person, you're going to come into an environment where when you exceed and succeed, you are going to be like fantastically rewarded.
00:15:57.000 You're going to move through the organization.
00:15:59.000 We actually just eliminated a big impediment for a long time, which is you had to sit in the job for 12 months before you would even be considered for promotion.
00:16:07.000 It's called time and grade for those of you who are nerdy inside baseball people.
00:16:11.000 We eliminated that completely.
00:16:12.000 So if you come in and after three months, if you are not going to cover off the ball, you could be promoted within.
00:16:16.000 Three months in the federal government.
00:16:17.000 That has never been done before.
00:16:19.000 And those are the kinds of people we want people who are like, hey, if I go do phenomenal work, I'm going to get rewarded and recognized and paid for that.
00:16:25.000 That's incredible because I know people who have lateraled and the reputation, certainly in the Obama years, it's that you were charging hard in the private sector and you saw federal government, oh, this is where you could lateral and you could work 35 hours a week, maybe get all this vacation time.
00:16:41.000 And yeah, it made it a very cushy mid career job, but it was not very good for the American people.
00:16:46.000 Got you a bloated, expensive workforce that was really non responsive.
00:16:50.000 Yeah.
00:16:50.000 So this is what we're trying to do.
00:16:51.000 Yeah, exactly right.
00:16:52.000 I mean, if we're going to get great people there, they have to walk into an environment that looks like working for an organization like this or working for a private sector organization where when you do well, you get moved through the organization.
00:17:03.000 Look, obviously, the federal government can only pay what the federal government can pay.
00:17:06.000 But part of the pay problem is actually because we mislevel people and we have these arbitrary rules, which is, hey, if you don't have five years' worth of work experience, you can only come in at level one instead of level five.
00:17:15.000 We're also eliminating all of that stuff, basically.
00:17:17.000 And so everything is going to be merit based.
00:17:19.000 If you are good and you demonstrate performance, You will get paid appropriate for that, and then you will actually get promoted consistent with that as well.
00:17:26.000 Well, this is fantastic news, and we're going to get this out to our entire network, Director Cooper.
00:17:31.000 Thank you.
00:17:32.000 And it sounds like you are doing phenomenal work transforming the way that we hire, the way that we promote, the way that we incentivize the federal workforce.
00:17:40.000 So if you hear this, young patriots out in the country, and you're worried about AI stealing your jobs, well, there's a huge boon happening right now at the federal government.
00:17:50.000 It could be just the perfect opportunity.
00:17:53.000 For you.
00:17:53.000 Thank you so much for your time.
00:17:57.000 I want to ask you something.
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00:19:01.000 Without further ado, we're going to welcome in Sarah Carter.
00:19:04.000 Again, she's the director of the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy.
00:19:08.000 I prefer Drugs are, Sarah.
00:19:10.000 That's cool.
00:19:11.000 Like, I mean, that's a really cool name.
00:19:14.000 Hi, Blake.
00:19:15.000 Hi, Andrew.
00:19:15.000 Thank you so much.
00:19:16.000 Yeah.
00:19:17.000 Well, you know what's so cool about it is that we actually have a president that allows us to do the job that we need to do to save American lives.
00:19:24.000 And that's what we're doing.
00:19:25.000 And that's the big success story of the Trump administration and President Trump.
00:19:31.000 We are watching the numbers of overdose deaths decrease by over 40%.
00:19:36.000 That's 44,000 American lives saved since the height of the crisis.
00:19:43.000 We are seeing those numbers go into continuous decline.
00:19:47.000 So I feel blessed to be a part of this administration, to be a part of what I see as America's recovery, America's common sense initiatives.
00:19:59.000 And our children are benefiting that and future generations.
00:20:03.000 Yeah.
00:20:03.000 So the question then becomes because I actually covered this on the show this week, you know, fentanyl.
00:20:09.000 ODs are dropping.
00:20:10.000 The fentanyl flowing into the country is falling off a cliff.
00:20:14.000 This is one of the unsung, truly unsung aspects of what President Trump and this administration has accomplished.
00:20:21.000 So the question then becomes how did you guys accomplish this?
00:20:25.000 I mean, because it's historic and people need to know about it.
00:20:28.000 Well, we did it through our national drug control strategy, our Homelands, you know, task forces, Homeland Security task forces, as well as our HIDAs.
00:20:37.000 Under the Office of National Drug Control Policy, I oversee.
00:20:42.000 The high intensity drug trafficking areas.
00:20:44.000 Those are our HIDA teams, 33 regional HIDA teams across the country, all working together with our HSTS in an effort to target the drug cartels.
00:20:56.000 We're targeting them both internationally and nationally.
00:21:01.000 So, meaning the Western hemisphere is being protected.
00:21:05.000 That's the Don Roe Doctrine.
00:21:06.000 That's what you hear about when the president or the vice president talk about what we're doing in the United States.
00:21:13.000 And we're working together as a whole of government.
00:21:15.000 For example, I work closely with Burke Rollins, Secretary Rollins.
00:21:19.000 I work with Secretary Kennedy, Secretary Turner, Pete Hegseth, and the Department of War.
00:21:25.000 We're not operating in silos.
00:21:27.000 We're working together.
00:21:29.000 And together, we are a unifying force.
00:21:32.000 Stephen Miller, who's working from the White House, who has been emphatically involved in working with the Homeland Security Task Forces.
00:21:41.000 This is what's so important that we are all on the same page.
00:21:46.000 We are not fighting each other on this.
00:21:48.000 We want our nation.
00:21:50.000 Clean and clear of the cartels.
00:21:52.000 And first and foremost, to protect the national security of our country.
00:21:57.000 That is our children.
00:21:58.000 That's our future.
00:21:59.000 That's what's important to us.
00:22:00.000 And we're doing it that way.
00:22:02.000 I was in Argentina recently with Administrator Terry Cole at the International Drug Enforcement Conference and delivered the U.S. speech along with Terry Cole to our international partners all over the world because this is a global issue.
00:22:17.000 We are going to smash the cartels, Andrew.
00:22:20.000 We are going to destroy them.
00:22:22.000 They have spent over 50 years taking the lives of Americans, of our children.
00:22:28.000 And I want to just preface this with you know, I remember talking to Charlie right as I found out I got this position.
00:22:38.000 And, you know, the issue of fentanyl and the rise of deaths in the United States at its highest point, it was over 112,000 under President Biden.
00:22:48.000 That is American deaths, that's overdoses and poisonings due to fentanyl.
00:22:53.000 And I remember Charlie saying, you know, If there's anyone that can do this, it's got to be President Trump.
00:22:59.000 President Trump working with you, working with everyone else to save our children's lives, and how much that meant to him, right?
00:23:06.000 As a father, I'm a mother.
00:23:08.000 I have six children, I have grandchildren.
00:23:10.000 I want their future to be safe.
00:23:13.000 I want them to be protected.
00:23:15.000 And as the drugs are, you know, as the drugs are, I oversee all the 18 agencies and a nearly $44 billion budget that is designated.
00:23:26.000 To the national security of this country.
00:23:28.000 That means from Health and Human Services to the Department of War, and ensuring that that money is being allocated appropriately and following the national strategy that President Trump has put in place.
00:23:41.000 That's why you're seeing lives saved because we're not taking it anymore.
00:23:46.000 We're working now with the ACCC.
00:23:48.000 We have allies across the Western Hemisphere that have joined us, like the recently elected president of Colombia, President de la Esprea.
00:23:57.000 I was at his inauguration with AG Blanch.
00:24:00.000 We were able to get there to speak with him.
00:24:03.000 He wants to eradicate the cartels too because it is a problem for his nation.
00:24:07.000 So we're getting everybody on board.
00:24:09.000 This is the president's Don Roe doctrine.
00:24:11.000 This is why we're doing this, and we're saving American lives.
00:24:15.000 So I'm reading here that youth drug use is at historic lows.
00:24:21.000 So we haven't seen this decline in illegal drug use among young Americans since 1992.
00:24:30.000 1992.
00:24:32.000 What is driving that trend exactly?
00:24:36.000 Children are seeing the lie behind the use of drugs.
00:24:40.000 Americans are seeing it.
00:24:41.000 You're never going to be your fullest potential if you're using, if you're addicted.
00:24:47.000 They watched as their friends died over the last decade, you know, even more than a decade.
00:24:53.000 They watched as young people in their universities, friends of theirs, you know, collapsed dead, thinking they were taking an Adderall, purchasing it online, and then only to find out their parents find out that they have died and that they have to.
00:25:07.000 You know, now their lives have been turned upside down.
00:25:09.000 Communities have been turned upside down.
00:25:11.000 They see the lie when they look at Kensington, you know, in Philadelphia, and people are toppled over on the streets.
00:25:17.000 They're bent over.
00:25:19.000 They're living in their own feces.
00:25:22.000 There's vomit.
00:25:23.000 There's children walking around kicking needles out of the way.
00:25:26.000 You know, Americans, we are not stupid.
00:25:29.000 For me, Andrew, this is almost as if you could say irregular warfare, right?
00:25:34.000 We had poison and had so much poison being dumped in our country that for a while there, it was almost too late when we realized.
00:25:42.000 What was actually going on?
00:25:44.000 We saw addiction rise with the pharmaceutical giants, you know, with opioids.
00:25:49.000 And finally, when we got a hold of that and stopped that, you know, those pill mills in the US, the cartels were already bringing in the heroin.
00:25:59.000 You know, we had the Juarez cartel, then CJNG was bringing in heroin and feeding that supply chain, feeding that addiction.
00:26:07.000 And then we saw others across the globe, you know, pharmaceutical laboratories in China.
00:26:13.000 Pushing precursor chemicals into Mexico.
00:26:16.000 And then those precursor chemicals were being used to create these fentanyl pills, these blue pills that were pushed all over our streets.
00:26:24.000 And before we knew it, people, Americans were dying.
00:26:27.000 Communities like in Ohio, you know, were seeing coroner's offices were being filled up with bodies.
00:26:33.000 Young people were losing their lives.
00:26:35.000 And look, to me, we still have so much more work to do.
00:26:38.000 This is a huge success for President Trump because this is 45,000 more people that are alive today.
00:26:44.000 But younger people are seeing through the lies.
00:26:47.000 I, you know, we talk about freedom.
00:26:49.000 We talk about the importance of freedom in our nation, right?
00:26:52.000 And how amazing it is to live in a country that is so absolutely beautiful, where liberty and freedom is essential to everyone.
00:26:59.000 Where, by the way, frankly, people from all over the world, including my mother, who was a Cuban immigrant to this country in the late 1960s, want to be a part of this beautiful, great republic, right?
00:27:11.000 We talk about that.
00:27:12.000 But imagine now being addicted to drugs.
00:27:16.000 You know, you're shackled.
00:27:17.000 You no longer have.
00:27:19.000 Freedom.
00:27:19.000 All you're thinking about is when am I going to get that next hit?
00:27:22.000 When am I going to get, you know, that next high?
00:27:25.000 And that's the message that kids are hearing.
00:27:28.000 They're like, I don't want my life to be that way anymore.
00:27:31.000 I don't want to see what happened to me, be my grandparents or my parents.
00:27:36.000 I don't want to be that person.
00:27:37.000 And in our office, we work very closely.
00:27:39.000 We have a program, a grant program that works with drug free communities across the United States.
00:27:45.000 So we work very closely with our youth and we ensure that they have a voice in their own future.
00:27:54.000 And I'm working very closely with them on a campaign.
00:27:57.000 Which we're so excited about, and hopefully, we're going to roll out next fall.
00:28:02.000 But that's what's important.
00:28:04.000 I think it's important to let our children know and let the American people know that we have not forgotten you.
00:28:10.000 You are the front lines of this battle.
00:28:12.000 If we are going to win as a federal government, as a nation, against the cartels and against those that want to poison us, we have to work together.
00:28:23.000 And that is the most important message that I can deliver.
00:28:27.000 Please pay attention to your children.
00:28:29.000 Please pay attention to what they're doing and work together.
00:28:32.000 You're the front line of this fight.
00:28:34.000 There's this story that's in Fox News, and maybe it's a little bit of fear mongering, but they say there's a new super fentanyl.
00:28:41.000 They're saying in shorthand it's 10 times as powerful as fentanyl, which we already know has killed hundreds of thousands of Americans.
00:28:50.000 In one minute here, what do people need to know about this drug, and is the administration taking action against it?
00:28:55.000 We are absolutely taking an action against it.
00:28:58.000 Cycloraphine, it's part of a class of orphanes that are very dangerous.
00:29:02.000 It's 10 times.
00:29:04.000 More powerful, yes, than fentanyl, up to 10 times more powerful than fentanyl.
00:29:09.000 And we're taking action.
00:29:10.000 Just before President Xi from China arrived to meet with President Trump, they actually scheduled the entire class of orphanes in China.
00:29:18.000 We were fighting for that.
00:29:19.000 Our office was ahead of the curve on that.
00:29:22.000 We got China to schedule orphanes as an entire class, and we put export controls on two major precursors used to make fentanyl.
00:29:32.000 And we have a message.
00:29:33.000 To you know, and we've been very clear, we're happy with what China did there, but more needs to be done.
00:29:39.000 Our message is keep that supply chain clean, we're staying ahead of you, and we're staying ahead of emerging threats.
00:29:45.000 Sarah Carter, the drug czar, doing great work, an unsung aspect of the Trump administration.
00:29:53.000 Hear it loudly, it is unsung no more.
00:29:57.000 I hope you guys are internalizing just how incredible that is.
00:30:01.000 So, Sarah Carter comes in, she's got she kind of Helps coordinate $40 billion in spending across our government on national security, stopping drug deaths, and 45,000 Americans are alive today, according to her estimates.
00:30:16.000 I've seen some numbers say it's as high as 60,000.
00:30:19.000 It's huge.
00:30:20.000 And all that is, is coming in with common sense, getting rid of the wokeness, being harsh on immigration.
00:30:27.000 People don't like that.
00:30:28.000 It's too mean or whatever.
00:30:29.000 Well, guess what's mean?
00:30:30.000 Allowing hundreds of thousands of Americans to die from drug overdoses.
00:30:34.000 Okay?
00:30:35.000 Humane immigration policies from the Democrats don't exist.
00:30:39.000 It's a farce.
00:30:39.000 It's a ruse.
00:30:40.000 Humane is making sure people aren't dying from drugs, okay, and getting poisoned.
00:30:45.000 So, anyways, congratulations to her.
00:30:47.000 Yeah, go ahead.
00:30:48.000 I just want to throw out that number 45,000 in basically a year.
00:30:52.000 So that could end up being 200,000 saved lives by the end of a four year term.
00:30:57.000 Like, we lost 7,000 troops in the entire war on terror, Iraq and Afghanistan.
00:31:02.000 We lost about 35,000 troops in Korea.
00:31:05.000 We lost 58,000 troops in Vietnam.
00:31:08.000 So even.
00:31:09.000 A couple years of resolving the opioid crisis is going to save more lives than if we'd avoided major wars in American history.
00:31:16.000 Like every war since World War II, probably by the end of this administration.
00:31:20.000 Yeah.
00:31:20.000 No, it's incredibly.
00:31:21.000 It's incredibly.
00:31:23.000 It's just, it's heartening because it reminds me of the border.
00:31:27.000 You can't fix the border.
00:31:29.000 You got to go to Latin America.
00:31:31.000 You got to invest all these billions and trillions of dollars into Latin America, make those countries good so they won't come.
00:31:35.000 You can't fix this.
00:31:36.000 You can't fix it.
00:31:36.000 Oh, it turns out you can.
00:31:38.000 Turns out you can fix really hard problems because they're actually pretty simple.
00:31:41.000 You have to do common sense things, and guess what?
00:31:44.000 Results will follow.
00:31:46.000 So it's just, I love that story.
00:31:48.000 And if we give the Democrats power again, folks, you're just, you're going to unleash these horrors on America.
00:31:55.000 Once again.
00:31:56.000 So let's just keep voting for common sense.
00:31:58.000 I get it.
00:31:59.000 You're frustrated with gas prices.
00:32:00.000 I'm sick of saying all that stuff.
00:32:02.000 Those are going to come down.
00:32:04.000 Okay.
00:32:04.000 Gas prices are going to come down.
00:32:06.000 Give it some time.
00:32:07.000 Everything's going to be fine.
00:32:09.000 We got a breaking news story this morning out of Portsmouth, Virginia, where the FBI raided the office of Virginia Senate President pro tempore Luis Lucas, L. Luis Lucas, a Democrat and close ally of Virginia Governor Spanberger.
00:32:28.000 So then, after the raids, she was arrested by the feds and is now in federal custody.
00:32:34.000 She's charged with drug trafficking, felt a little bit related to our past segment, so I wanted to get to it.
00:32:40.000 Money laundering, fraud, and firearms charges.
00:32:44.000 So apparently, she was recorded on a phone call saying, This is our last chance at generational wealth.
00:32:54.000 I've got too old to not be greedy.
00:32:58.000 And they got her.
00:33:00.000 I mean, and this lady is a real peach.
00:33:02.000 Blake can fill you in more, but it couldn't have happened to a nicer person, could it, Blake?
00:33:08.000 No.
00:33:09.000 What is she, 82, and she's like being alleged of crimes.
00:33:14.000 It's basically a drug pen out of Virginia.
00:33:16.000 Exactly.
00:33:17.000 She was basically getting in position to obviously essentially be a marijuana trafficker and then also on the law side lobbying to make it more legal.
00:33:30.000 But What it was always very obvious that the left for years they made this process as they made it easier to sell weed, they were also saying, like, they could basically treat it as a form of reparations.
00:33:41.000 Like, let's traffic in the licenses, don't just make it a feeding frenzy, give it to specific groups.
00:33:46.000 They sold it as a form of racial equity.
00:33:49.000 And I think she's one of several people who seem to have exploited this.
00:33:52.000 And that makes it one of the darkest things imaginable because what it essentially turned into is we pivoted from we should have laws to protect America's.
00:34:01.000 Uh, urban communities, poor communities, black communities from drugs to oh, it's actually reparations for us to deliberately target those communities with drugs.
00:34:12.000 True lunacy in the darkness.
00:34:14.000 And according to a friend of mine who's in Virginia politics, he says, absolute open secret that she's been involved in this for ages.
00:34:22.000 So it's really thank God the FBI, you know, took a look.
00:34:25.000 We're seeing that with the Ilhan Omar thing as well.
00:34:27.000 Something everyone knows is going on.
00:34:29.000 Someone with the power to make an arrest finally decided to look at it.
00:34:33.000 Well, yeah, this has been an open secret, and she's been using her political power, especially in the state of Virginia, her alliances, her relationship with the governor, to essentially shield herself from this.
00:34:45.000 And she thought she could get away with this with impunity.
00:34:47.000 She's still defiant because, of course, this 82 year old great grandmother that is playing the race card, anyways.
00:34:56.000 It says today the FBI, the Department of Justice, and the full weight of the federal government have wielded against an 82 year old great grandmother.
00:35:05.000 I grew up under Jim Crow.
00:35:07.000 I've seen what happens when people in power try to silence those who stand up to them.
00:35:12.000 I spent my life fighting back, and I'm not stopping now.
00:35:15.000 I'm not new to this.
00:35:16.000 I'm true to this.
00:35:18.000 She thinks she's Maya Angelou, too.
00:35:20.000 I will not be intimidated.
00:35:21.000 I will not be bullied.
00:35:23.000 And I will not back down.
00:35:24.000 I'm really told.
00:35:25.000 Oh, okay.
00:35:26.000 I think.
00:35:27.000 I'm trying to.
00:35:28.000 My brain is firing off.
00:35:29.000 I'm like, is I'm not new to this.
00:35:30.000 I'm true to this.
00:35:31.000 That could either be like extremely funny AI generated text, but I don't think it is.
00:35:37.000 I think that's totally a line she's probably used before, probably uses all the time.
00:35:42.000 It just.
00:35:43.000 She thinks it's like this rhetorical kill shot.
00:35:45.000 And.
00:35:46.000 Ah.
00:35:47.000 Yeah.
00:35:47.000 No, it's not.
00:35:48.000 Yeah.
00:35:48.000 And she.
00:35:49.000 By the way, she.
00:35:50.000 I think she does sort of have the loyalties, almost like a mafiosa, like a crime boss in her area.
00:35:56.000 Because this story's been percolating for a while.
00:35:58.000 I've looked into this gal before, and she's a piece of work.
00:36:01.000 She really is.
00:36:02.000 She is the essence of corruption, and she's shrouded in this sort of Jim Crow racial virtue signaling that she thinks is going to carry the day and see her through.
00:36:14.000 The problem is, I think they got her dead to rights.
00:36:16.000 And, you know, she was very, very brazen.
00:36:20.000 You can see this tweet responding to.
00:36:24.000 Ted Cruz, when we were going through the whole redistricting fight in Virginia, and Ted Cruz said, a brazen abuse of power and an insult to democracy.
00:36:31.000 47% of Virginia voted Trump.
00:36:33.000 They get just 9% of the seats.
00:36:36.000 52% of Virginians voted for Harris.
00:36:39.000 Now they get 91% of the seats.
00:36:41.000 And she fired back.
00:36:43.000 Y'all started it, and we, blank pejorative word, finished it.
00:36:48.000 So she's a defiant, angry black woman who thinks that she can get away with anything as long as she shrouds herself in the language of civil rights activism.
00:36:59.000 Or a couple of swear words here.
00:37:02.000 I will just be.
00:37:03.000 She has to understand that era is done.
00:37:05.000 Yeah, I will be very glad.
00:37:07.000 Like, I mean, I guess we're going to see the sequel to it where people will just say, like, I grew up the grandchild of people who were under Jim Crow or whatever.
00:37:15.000 But we've had.
00:37:16.000 It's been sad.
00:37:17.000 We've had an entire generation of politicians who've been flagrantly corrupt and they've just trafficked in, like, Jim Crow scaremongering and exploiting the memory of the civil rights movement to just get away with the most flagrant behavior imaginable.
00:37:32.000 And.
00:37:33.000 They're finally aging out of the system, and hopefully, we can get some better politicians out of it because, for a long time, they've been some of our most corrupt, most hard to remove, like the worst barnacles in our state and federal government.
00:37:46.000 And the black community, for once, deserves better.
00:37:48.000 Great word for it.
00:37:50.000 Yeah, you know, it's, and you think about El Syed, who had a debate last night.
00:37:53.000 We're going to cover that in the next hour with Mike Rogers.
00:37:56.000 And the black community is revolting, at least in some, some part, significant part, against the Democrat Party.
00:38:02.000 They're not going to, They're not going to just go and vote party line necessarily.
00:38:06.000 You got to win that vote now, the further away we get from the civil rights era.
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00:39:18.000 We've got so much news to get to.
00:39:20.000 I was just texting with Blake in the break.
00:39:22.000 The problem is, what do you pick?
00:39:24.000 Is it LeBron not standing for the national anthem?
00:39:26.000 Well, I guess he stood, but he was essentially practicing his golf swing in the middle of it.
00:39:30.000 Is it the WNBA not standing for the national anthem?
00:39:34.000 Is it Call Her Daddy?
00:39:35.000 Is it El Syed?
00:39:36.000 Is this PHP AI vulnerability that's affecting, apparently, banks and all kinds of things?
00:39:43.000 There's so much to get to.
00:39:44.000 I'm going to talk about one quick because I don't know if we can talk about it at length, but I actually encourage you guys to.
00:39:50.000 Go online, read about what's happening with cybersecurity.
00:39:53.000 I messaged my family this morning.
00:39:54.000 I just said, guys, make sure you have two factor authorization on any bank you have, anything that has access to your money, anything that's important to you.
00:40:04.000 Just be ready because if you're aware, if you're an expert, the experts in cybersecurity basically say they're going through the biggest security crisis in their lifetimes.
00:40:13.000 It's happening right now.
00:40:15.000 Nothing catastrophic has happened yet.
00:40:18.000 But if you are ready, you will be far more prepared.
00:40:21.000 Than most people will because it's not getting talked about a lot.
00:40:24.000 So just throwing that out there for people.
00:40:26.000 Yeah.
00:40:27.000 It's a huge, huge, I would say, news story that, to Blake's point, it's probably not going to get talked about enough.
00:40:34.000 But this is a lot of people are saying this could be sort of the beginning of the new normal where these AI bots are dispatched.
00:40:44.000 Some are saying China's behind it.
00:40:47.000 But wherever it's coming from, these AI bots are getting very, very effective at infiltrating very, I would say important infrastructure that's also consumer based.
00:40:57.000 This isn't just government based infrastructure.
00:40:59.000 So please, please, please look into that.
00:41:02.000 And we'll get some experts on this week to talk more about it and see what you can do to defend yourself and take precautions.
00:41:08.000 But I mean, when the NSA is putting out tweets saying that PHP, about 70% of websites have this vulnerability and use PHP, okay, you got to take note.
00:41:20.000 And I think that tweet is like 11 million, 12 million people have seen that.
00:41:24.000 It went viral.
00:41:24.000 Another one that's remarkable the prime minister of Japan's office.
00:41:27.000 Tweeted out that people should in Japan should take certain websites offline, and they did that at 5 30 in the morning, Japan time.
00:41:36.000 I think that's a good sign.
00:41:37.000 This is not something you should sit around on.
00:41:40.000 The people who are professionals are freaking out about it, and so we just encourage all of you if you take even a little bit of preparation, you will be a lot safer compared to a lot of people.
00:41:50.000 And so, we would encourage you all to do that.
00:41:52.000 And then, this comes as Axios reports unvetted AI agents are accessing U.S. bank accounts, major U.S. banks are detecting.
00:42:00.000 Unauthorized third party AI agents operating inside customer accounts, with some agents attempting to take actions that appear to be independent of user instructions.
00:42:09.000 Okay, so you might be familiar with stuff like Grokbot, right?
00:42:12.000 Where you could say, Hey, go cancel my subscription.
00:42:14.000 Hey, what's my balance on my account?
00:42:16.000 So you send these AI agents out into the internet to go do work for you.
00:42:20.000 You give them a command, they're supposed to be able to do it, but they need your login credentials.
00:42:24.000 Well, they're saying these are third party AI agents operating inside customer accounts.
00:42:30.000 Taking actions outside of what you, the user, the consumer, and the client want them to do.
00:42:36.000 So, this could be extremely dangerous in the future.
00:42:40.000 And we need to start thinking really, really hard about it.
00:42:44.000 All right.
00:42:45.000 Let's get to another story here while we're kind of running through these.
00:42:49.000 And we're going to get deep into Ilhan Omar in just a few minutes.
00:42:51.000 We're going to bring in Will Chamberlain, who's been studying.
00:42:53.000 He's a lawyer, he's been studying it.
00:42:56.000 So, this is El Sayed, who was in a debate last night with Mike Rogers.
00:43:02.000 Now, Mike Rogers is a guy, and I said this earlier.
00:43:05.000 In the week.
00:43:06.000 I didn't have high hopes for him, to be perfectly honest, as a candidate for U.S. Senate.
00:43:10.000 I thought maybe a little too neocon, a little too old.
00:43:13.000 El Sayed, younger, quicker on his feet.
00:43:17.000 I was worried.
00:43:18.000 But I will tell you that he is holding him to account on this Muslim Brotherhood.
00:43:24.000 He's holding him account on all of these links that his family has to the Muslim Brotherhood.
00:43:30.000 This guy, I genuinely have convinced this is not just electioneering, this is not just politicking as usual.
00:43:36.000 I'm genuinely convinced that where there is this much smoke, there is absolutely fire.
00:43:42.000 And the reason that this guy is.
00:43:43.000 Is not able to give one word answers when it comes to condemning the Muslim Brotherhood, care, all of this stuff, the Ayatollah, is because he's actually a true believer.
00:43:52.000 You know, he has been speaking and doing events at a Detroit Islamic Center that is basically a hotbed for radicalization.
00:44:01.000 His sister is on record.
00:44:02.000 His mother apparently is on record as being connected to the Muslim Brotherhood.
00:44:07.000 This man obviously harbors deep emotional ties.
00:44:12.000 And here's what's interesting.
00:44:13.000 So he was asked last night.
00:44:15.000 Whether or not he would pack the Supreme Court.
00:44:17.000 And here's his answer: SOP 14.
00:44:19.000 Congressman Rogers, are you in favor of expanding the U.S. Supreme Court?
00:44:23.000 Yes or no?
00:44:24.000 No.
00:44:25.000 Dr. El Sayed, same question to you.
00:44:27.000 Are you in favor of expanding the U.S. Supreme Court?
00:44:29.000 Yes or no?
00:44:30.000 Yes, but fairly.
00:44:32.000 Ah, but fairly.
00:44:35.000 Almost gave an answer.
00:44:36.000 Yeah, this is like Hillary Clinton says she wants to expand the Supreme Court to 13 justices, but only when the Democrats are in power, because it's all about fairness.
00:44:44.000 But let's just really quick on Abdul El Sayed.
00:44:47.000 Abdul said he's an immigrant from North Africa.
00:44:50.000 He said he's a dual citizen with Egypt.
00:44:52.000 Then he denies it.
00:44:53.000 The Muslim Brotherhood issued a statement congratulating him on his primary victory.
00:44:58.000 Oh, that's interesting.
00:44:59.000 He has donors who are members of the Muslim Brotherhood.
00:45:02.000 Okay.
00:45:03.000 Abdul wrote an op ed in the Huffington Post urging Americans to support the Muslim Brotherhood if they took over Egypt.
00:45:10.000 His sister tweeted out that their mother belonged to the Muslim Brotherhood.
00:45:15.000 He's justified and sympathized with terrorist attacks at a synagogue in Michigan.
00:45:21.000 On Morning Joe, he called Israel bloodthirsty.
00:45:24.000 He won't acknowledge Israel's right to exist.
00:45:28.000 And on and on it goes.
00:45:29.000 He won't disavow Hassan Piker.
00:45:31.000 He has been given multiple opportunities for yes or no answers on all of these fronts, and he's not able to.
00:45:37.000 But when you ask him if he's pro supporting packing the Supreme Court, yes.
00:45:41.000 And then he had to add with fairness.
00:45:44.000 But it proves he can answer a yes or no question.
00:45:46.000 The fact that he is not doing that when it comes to very easy layups is because he's actually sympathetic to.
00:45:53.000 The larger Islamic goal of conquering Western civilization.
00:45:59.000 I mean, I know that sounds maybe too intense for some of you, but that's actually what it is.
00:46:03.000 He is sympathetic to forces that are fundamentally anti American, anti West, and I genuinely believe he hates this country.
00:46:12.000 He hates what it is.
00:46:13.000 Maybe he loves what he thinks he can turn it into.
00:46:16.000 But this race is incredibly important to circle on the map because if the socialists, if the jihadists, if the third worldists, if they think that they can win a A swing state like Michigan, which is Democrat tilt.
00:46:30.000 Nevertheless, if he can win there, it will be no holds barred moving forward.
00:46:35.000 They will run these people in every single state across this nation, and the radicalizing elements of the far left will have a field day.
00:46:44.000 So watch that race.
00:46:46.000 Donate to Mike Rogers.
00:46:49.000 I don't say that about every race, but we should absolutely do that.
00:46:54.000 I'm going to give honorable mention to this non bombshell.
00:46:57.000 Blake, there is a story if you woke up this morning about Lindsey Graham.
00:47:03.000 And that is their new, their new cause du jour.
00:47:06.000 The Young Turks that they had this big bombshell that was going to be released.
00:47:10.000 And it's about Lindsey Graham.
00:47:12.000 They were saying it was going to upset the Senate race.
00:47:14.000 It's almost like they're just dumping it out here.
00:47:15.000 They're just dumping it out here.
00:47:17.000 Lindsey Graham is dead, died abruptly.
00:47:20.000 Maybe they were really disappointed when that happened, but it's like it's ugly form to try to trash a person who can't defend themselves in this way.
00:47:31.000 Yeah, so they're alleging that he was gay and that he hired sex workers, and one of them was underage.
00:47:37.000 Obviously, if that's true, I find it despicable.
00:47:39.000 But he's dead.
00:47:41.000 And if you're going to try and implicate in some way Darlene Graham because you don't want her to win the Senate race, I think that's scummy.
00:47:48.000 So, all you Democrats that think that the Vivek Ramaswamy ad was such low form, such bad form, you know, look in the mirror, okay?
00:47:58.000 My goodness.
00:47:59.000 Okay, so Lindsey Graham, we all knew he was gay.
00:48:02.000 We called him Lady Graham on this show repeatedly.
00:48:04.000 Charlie called him Lady Graham.
00:48:06.000 This is the biggest nothing burger ever.
00:48:09.000 And for you to go out there and promote it like it was some bombshell that was going to.
00:48:13.000 It was going to be the only thing America talked about for the next week.
00:48:17.000 No, it's not.
00:48:18.000 Okay.
00:48:19.000 It's just low class.
00:48:20.000 It's bad form.
00:48:21.000 It's scummy.
00:48:22.000 And you know what?
00:48:23.000 I'm not the hugest Darlene Graham fan, but at least she wanted to end the recess, the September recess.
00:48:30.000 She wanted to get back to work.
00:48:32.000 President Trump's out there stumping for her.
00:48:34.000 She is so clearly and obviously better than the alternative.
00:48:38.000 She just got my support in a major way.
00:48:40.000 Go, Darlene Graham.
00:48:42.000 Screw these people.
00:48:46.000 All right, breaking news here.
00:48:48.000 It looks like Senator Vance was at a rally and a gentleman or gentlewoman, I'm not sure actually, had some sort of medical emergency, medical issue come up.
00:49:00.000 He enters the crowd and then leads the attendees in the Lord's Prayer.
00:49:06.000 And this happened in Nebraska at his rally just moments ago.
00:49:10.000 So, I mean, that's pretty amazing actually that he did that.
00:49:15.000 And I'm reminded of Charlie's Memorial when JD Vance was reading.
00:49:20.000 I was backstage and I was watching his script that would go up on the teleprompter.
00:49:25.000 And I watched as he went off script to talk about how he'd talked about Jesus more in the last two weeks than he had in his entire public life up until that point.
00:49:35.000 And, you know, then obviously he issued, he wrote that book about his own faith journey, was inspired to finish it, had been working on it for years, inspired to finish it after Charlie's murder.
00:49:45.000 And so that's.
00:49:47.000 That's just a beautiful moment and good for him.
00:49:50.000 Very, very proud to be a supporter of his and a fan of his and a friend of his.
00:49:55.000 And when he does things like that, it makes us also proud.
00:49:58.000 So I hope that person's okay and God bless him.
00:50:02.000 Speaking of which, Blake, on the Charlie front, we do have an update.
00:50:05.000 This is the problem with today.
00:50:06.000 There's just too many updates to do.
00:50:07.000 There's a lot going on.
00:50:08.000 And this isn't a great update.
00:50:10.000 I assume it's about the hearing tomorrow, which at long last, obviously, we had the preliminary hearing, it was in July, and then they.
00:50:17.000 Had the conclusion to the preliminary hearing in September.
00:50:20.000 We're finally to the hearing where they're supposed to set the trial date.
00:50:24.000 So far, we've been pretty fortunate to have live broadcasts of all the proceedings, which we've consistently argued for.
00:50:32.000 But for some reason, it's not very clear to me.
00:50:34.000 It sounds like no media outlets were requesting to broadcast it on time, but I'm not sure if there's added complexities.
00:50:42.000 Tomorrow's hearing, unfortunately, is not going to be live streamed to the public.
00:50:46.000 It's not going to be getting broadcast.
00:50:48.000 We will be following everything that happens, of course, but we won't be able to just watch it.
00:50:53.000 Also, tomorrow, they will be arguing when the trial date should be.
00:50:56.000 And I think to our great exasperation, Andrew, the defense is arguing they should have a hearing, a trial in 2029.
00:51:04.000 But even the state, the prosecutors are only arguing.
00:51:07.000 The third quarter.
00:51:08.000 Yeah.
00:51:08.000 The third quarter of 2029.
00:51:10.000 Third quarter of 2021.
00:51:12.000 2030.
00:51:13.000 Three years from now.
00:51:14.000 Yeah.
00:51:15.000 Unbelievable.
00:51:15.000 The state wants the trial date in January 2028.
00:51:18.000 Much better.
00:51:19.000 But, you know, there's this whole year, 2027, that's just going to go by without any progress in the criminal trial against Tyler Robinson.
00:51:29.000 This is really, I've said this before, but just to repeat again, this is a strong argument.
00:51:35.000 I think there's a big case to be made.
00:51:37.000 Red states we should invest more money.
00:51:39.000 In our court systems, have more judges, pay for more bailiffs, whatever infrastructure you need.
00:51:46.000 When you have a major murder like this, it should be within our capacity to see that case through to completion in a reasonable length of time because we should not be waiting three years or more to get justice for what happened to Charlie and for anyone who faces a crime like this.
00:52:05.000 Yeah.
00:52:06.000 Yeah.
00:52:06.000 I mean, here's their justification.
00:52:10.000 From the defense.
00:52:10.000 This is Kathy Nestor's team.
00:52:13.000 Oh, and by the way, apparently I said Senator Vance.
00:52:15.000 I apologize.
00:52:16.000 Obviously, Vice President Vance.
00:52:18.000 But yeah, it says the filing and litigation motions related to the state's proposed non expert guilt phase evidence in the second quarter of 2028.
00:52:27.000 And then they want to do litigation motions related to the state's proposed penalty phase experts in the third quarter of 2028.
00:52:33.000 And then they want to do something when it comes to the non expert penalty phase in the fourth quarter, filing litigation of venues in the first quarter.
00:52:41.000 The lodging of a proposed jury questionnaire and the filing and litigation of motions related to all jury selection procedures and jury instructions in the second quarter of 2029, so that then you can go to trial in the third quarter of 2029.
00:52:57.000 So they've got each of these blocks that they think they need to get accomplished in order to get to the trial phase.
00:53:04.000 So, and the timeline proposed by the state is more accelerated, but it's still so delayed.
00:53:12.000 And it's very frustrating.
00:53:14.000 I mean, I've never been.
00:53:17.000 A victim, I guess, if you will, like connected in this way to a capital case.
00:53:22.000 Very few people have.
00:53:23.000 But I will tell you, being in our position, Blake's position, my position, the team's position, this is just, it feels unacceptable.
00:53:31.000 It feels like a slow torture.
00:53:33.000 And yeah, I just really agree with Blake.
00:53:37.000 We've got to do better, and there needs to be reforms in this space.
00:53:40.000 All right.
00:53:41.000 So there are so many more stories here.
00:53:43.000 And the president just put out a true social about this.
00:53:46.000 So I think we should get to it.
00:53:49.000 LeBron James, and this kind of goes along with his WNBA stories.
00:53:53.000 LeBron James, during the national anthem, it looked like he was practicing his golf swing.
00:54:01.000 We'll play it.
00:54:02.000 You'd be the judge.
00:54:02.000 Sot 16.
00:54:27.000 It looked to me like he's doing one of those stretches where they swing their arms back and forth.
00:54:32.000 I think it was a stretch.
00:54:33.000 You'll see golfers doing that a lot.
00:54:35.000 You'll see golfers doing that a lot.
00:54:37.000 President Trump says, while listening to our national anthem, LeBron James disrespected our country.
00:54:41.000 I said right from the beginning that he's no good.
00:54:43.000 A total disgrace.
00:54:44.000 LeBron James should apologize to all those great American warriors and heroes who died for the American flag and all that our country stands for, President Donald J. Trump.
00:54:53.000 I, you know, honestly, I totally agree.
00:54:55.000 I wanted to hit this because it felt very Charlie esque, okay?
00:54:59.000 Charlie was never a LeBron fan.
00:55:02.000 He was always Michael Jordan through and through.
00:55:05.000 I share that sentiment.
00:55:06.000 I genuinely, listen, I don't want to come down on LeBron James.
00:55:11.000 I want our best athletes, our most iconic athletes to be great.
00:55:15.000 I don't want to criticize him.
00:55:17.000 I don't.
00:55:18.000 Everything in me is crying out against doing that because I want to root for our guys.
00:55:23.000 But goodness, he has been such a toxic, iconic American athlete.
00:55:29.000 Standing up for China, you know, basically being a whiny baby on the court.
00:55:35.000 He's always, you know, got that look on it in his eyes when he gets a foul against or gets called for a foul.
00:55:42.000 I just can't stand it.
00:55:43.000 I don't think he's been nearly the positive impact that he could have been and should have been.
00:55:49.000 And this is just yet another thing.
00:55:50.000 Okay, he was practicing his golf, so he's practicing his shot.
00:55:55.000 You don't do that, LeBron.
00:55:56.000 You do not do that.
00:55:57.000 And the fact that you do not have the sense of, Presence, you don't understand who you are and what you represent to this country, and how things like this that might feel insignificant to you are truly significant to the people that follow you and look up to you, the young people around the country.
00:56:15.000 So, shame on you, very disappointing.
00:56:18.000 And nevertheless, you know, you're worth $1.4 billion, and you don't have the presence of mind to pay respect to the country that gave you all this opportunity that allowed you to be so enriched.
00:56:31.000 Pretty sure you wouldn't do that in China, LeBron.
00:56:33.000 Pretty sure you would have stood in respect for their anthem.
00:56:37.000 Pretty sure you would have done that.
00:56:40.000 The fact that you feel so willy nilly, the fact that you feel so emboldened and entitled to practice your shot and stretch and do your golf swing during the national anthem is a true disgrace.
00:56:50.000 And I don't want to be mad at you, but I am.
00:56:55.000 I talk about jobs and industries on this show all the time, but I didn't expect to find an entire skills trade community on TikTok.
00:57:03.000 Plumbers, electricians, builders, and contractors sharing the work they do every day.
00:57:07.000 And it went way beyond tips and tricks.
00:57:10.000 People were sharing their craft, connecting with local contractors, and talking about how they were building their businesses and growing their teams.
00:57:16.000 It opened my eyes to how people in the trades are using TikTok to share their skills, make connections, and find new opportunities.
00:57:23.000 I remember thinking, this is exactly what we need more of people sharing what they know and creating opportunities for others.
00:57:29.000 And I never expected to find a community like this.
00:57:31.000 That's the thing about TikTok.
00:57:33.000 You start with something you know, and suddenly you're finding a whole new side of it that surprises you and leaves you wanting to know more.
00:57:39.000 Your next discovery is waiting for you on TikTok.
00:57:42.000 Learn more at TikTok.comslash discover more.
00:57:47.000 We're going to bring in Will Chamberlain in just a second, but first, I want to give you an update out of Maricopa County.
00:57:52.000 Another big drop, and for a third day in a row, Republicans take the drop.
00:57:57.000 So Maricopa added 69,271 ballots, and it was an R plus 1.1.
00:58:05.000 Just as a reminder, we did not have Republicans winning an early drop in 2022 until the Friday before election.
00:58:12.000 This is three days in a row in Maricopa that we have won the drop.
00:58:17.000 So the county now sits at D plus 0.5 compared to D plus 1.3 on the same day in 2022.
00:58:25.000 So we are ahead by about 0.8 where we were in 2022.
00:58:31.000 Now, as a state total, statewide, there have been 739,746 ballots delivered, early ballots, and it sits at D plus 0.7.
00:58:44.000 On the same day in 2022, it was D plus 2.7.
00:58:47.000 So we are running two points ahead of our 2022 totals.
00:58:51.000 And here's what's really exciting when you look under the hood, We're winning with zero out of four voters, one out of four voters, two out of three voters, or two out of four voters, three out of four voters.
00:59:02.000 We're losing with four out of four voters.
00:59:04.000 So, a lot of those four out of four voters, those high propensity voters, are going to show up on election day.
00:59:09.000 At least that's the hope.
00:59:10.000 So, turnout, turnout, turnout.
00:59:12.000 We can win the day.
00:59:13.000 Arizona, Nevada are both looking very, very solid, and we like our chances in both of those states.
00:59:19.000 It's all about the early voting, it's all about the ground operations, getting the ground game going.
00:59:25.000 So, it's just proof positive that investing in the ground game is so important.
00:59:29.000 So important.
00:59:31.000 All right.
00:59:31.000 Without further ado, we have Will Chamberlain, and he's with the Article 3 Project, and he's a great friend of the show.
00:59:37.000 Will, welcome back, my friend.
00:59:39.000 Now, you have been on top of this Ilhan Omar story like just about nobody else out there.
00:59:46.000 There is so many different aspects of this case swirling.
00:59:50.000 It's so delicious if you're us, because Ilhan Omar has been a thorn in our side and really just one of the more annoying congresswomen in the country.
00:59:59.000 Try it.
01:00:00.000 Can you just.
01:00:01.000 Break it down point by point, what's actually going on, because, like I said, there's just so much swirling.
01:00:06.000 So, what are the feds investigating, and what can we surmise at this point?
01:00:11.000 The feds are investigating immigration fraud and a related conspiracy.
01:00:18.000 And the conspiracy includes this potential that she married her brother, it includes potential false statements she's made recently on her passports or in other places about her citizenship and perhaps even her date of birth.
01:00:32.000 So, but that's the core accusation here is really that from the inception, from the mid 90s, when she came to the United States with her father, that she came under a false identity, that she was not, in fact, Ilhan Omar, that she was, in fact, Ilhan Nursaid Elmi.
01:00:51.000 And the most recent revelation from yesterday was that apparently the Department of Justice has taken the view that that is her name.
01:01:00.000 Her name is not Ilhan Omar, her name is Ilhan Nursaid Elmi.
01:01:03.000 They revealed that in a document.
01:01:07.000 That they filed with in Washington, D.C., which is actually related to sort of a side piece of litigation about whether or not the warrant on her house would be unsealed.
01:01:18.000 But in that document, they said that this was a warrant in relation to Ilhan Nur Saeed Elmi, AKA Ilhan Omar.
01:01:25.000 Right, which then sort of leads us to believe that she's been operating under a pseudonym all these years.
01:01:35.000 And so again, Yeah, basic facts here.
01:01:40.000 Blake, sorry, I couldn't tell if you were about to chime in.
01:01:41.000 Well, yeah, I guess we've all been fixated.
01:01:44.000 Obviously, the idea that she might have married her brother has been at the heart of this and has really kept it going.
01:01:50.000 But if that's the case, if she had a false name, there's so many other things that could be in play here.
01:01:55.000 And I've seen people say maybe the real thing is not necessarily that she married her brother, but clearly it seems the evidence to me feels almost overwhelming at this point that her second marriage, whatever it was, was clearly fraudulent.
01:02:08.000 And that if you peel it back, you're going to see.
01:02:11.000 An episode in the just endemic, epidemic levels of just deceptive, fraudulent behavior in the Somali diaspora that came to America in the 1990s.
01:02:22.000 But so can you build that out for us more, Will?
01:02:24.000 Sure.
01:02:24.000 So let's start with just Ilhan's story of marriages so people understand the timeline here and you'll understand why things are so suspect.
01:02:30.000 So, back in 2003, she apparently has a religious marriage with who is now the father of her three children.
01:02:37.000 And then in 2009, without getting a formal divorce of that man, she has a civil marriage to Ahmed Nur Saeed Elmi.
01:02:47.000 That civil marriage was conducted by a Christian priest, a Christian pastor, which is odd because, of course, she is Muslim.
01:02:56.000 By 2011, apparently, they were no longer in the picture.
01:03:01.000 And in 2015, before any divorce was filed, Omar filed a joint tax return with her first religious husband, who she shared the three children with.
01:03:12.000 And then later in 2017, she formally divorced the so called second husband.
01:03:16.000 So that is extraordinarily strange.
01:03:19.000 One nugget that has not been reported that much, that was buried in the lead of a Washington Post story, was that apparently Ahmed Nursaid Elmi, the supposed second husband, Applied for naturalization in the early 2010s.
01:03:34.000 And then USCIS came back to him and asked him for more documents and substantiation of his marriage to Ilhan Omar.
01:03:42.000 And instead of providing that, he simply withdrew his application for naturalization, which is maybe the most suspect and revealing fact of all.
01:03:52.000 So basically, it's a fake marriage.
01:03:54.000 Now, why is this?
01:03:55.000 What's happening here?
01:03:56.000 Why is this even necessary?
01:03:58.000 Because if she's here legitimately and this is legitimately her brother, then Her brother should just be able to come in on a normal family visa, like a family reunification visa.
01:04:07.000 So, why not?
01:04:08.000 And so, the way to understand it is while the marriage fraud was itself illegal, it's also the keystone at understanding the whole matrix of immigration fraud here that goes back to her father coming over in the mid 1990s under an identity that is pretty clear wasn't his.
01:04:23.000 The allegations are that her father, now deceased, was a senior colonel in Siad Barre's Marxist Leninist regime in Somalia.
01:04:34.000 The Somalian regime obviously fell during the Somalian Civil War, which is why Ilhan and her family had to move to Kenya.
01:04:40.000 But because he was a senior colonel in a regime that was explicitly and avowedly Marxist, he would have been inadmissible to the United States.
01:04:49.000 So he therefore would have had to come in under a pseudonym.
01:04:52.000 And so we don't know the details of exactly how that happened.
01:04:56.000 Did he merge into an existing family that had already gotten admission, which is something that actually has happened?
01:05:03.000 I mean, you can find examples in the first Trump administration.
01:05:07.000 For example, of four Somalis being denaturalized and deported who had presented themselves as a family for a diversity visa, and none of them were related to each other a husband, wife, and two purported children.
01:05:18.000 None of them had any relation to the others.
01:05:20.000 So these sort of fake families, mix and match families could have been done in Somalia because, of course, in those refugee camps in Kenya, it's not like they had great records and documentation of birth certificates and things like that.
01:05:32.000 There's no question about these things being revealed.
01:05:35.000 So you had just a lot of potential for fraud and people to pretend they're members of families that they aren't really members of.
01:05:41.000 And so that appears.
01:05:43.000 So something along those lines seemed to have happened here, where you have this father who had to pretend he wasn't a colonel in this Marxist regime, pretending to be somebody else.
01:05:51.000 And then perhaps because he had to maybe merge into a different family or adopt another family's name that was going to be admitted, he couldn't bring all his children along because maybe the family structure wouldn't have made sense.
01:06:02.000 An example would be think about it this way if you're merging your family into someone else's family and pretending that you're one big family, then your children can't be more than.
01:06:11.000 Your children need to be at least nine months apart.
01:06:14.000 And so if they're not, that would obviously create a serious problem.
01:06:17.000 Maybe you fudge a birth date, maybe you, but maybe you also don't try and bring in all your children, which might have happened here or something along those lines.
01:06:24.000 And that, so that sort of could be the catalyst for why 15 years later, after, you know, this family maybe split up 15 years before and then was trying to reunify with a sham marriage.
01:06:35.000 I just think it's the way you describe this, it's just Americans have no idea how privileged we've been to not merely live in, as we'd say, a high trust society, but like, A legible society, a society with documentation, and a society where it's just not really thinkable to engage in that level of deception of the system.
01:06:58.000 And I really think as the DOJ peels this back, the press has just, they've avoided this by treating it all like it's so uninteresting.
01:07:06.000 And I don't know if she married her brother, but I think if we peel this back, you're going to discover this process by which really tens, hundreds of thousands of people have just made it an entire industry within their subculture to lie to everyone.
01:07:20.000 And we've just, We've taken it lying down because most of us have been ignorant it's even happening.
01:07:25.000 And you're racist, as Charlie would say, for even pointing it out.
01:07:30.000 Well, this is what's interesting here, Will.
01:07:32.000 Ilhan Omar deleted a 2013 tweet calling her father Nur Syed.
01:07:38.000 So this does seem to, you know, now that we have these charging documents that refer to her as Ilhan Nur Syed Elmi.
01:07:49.000 And so she goes, Happy Father's Day to my abo.
01:07:53.000 Noor Syed, I am forever grateful to Allah for giving me the best father.
01:07:58.000 Anyway, she takes it down.
01:08:01.000 And I mean, that to me feels pretty damning.
01:08:06.000 What do you make of that?
01:08:07.000 Yeah, I mean, that's one piece of many pieces of evidence that have been reported by people like Scott Johnson and David Steinberg and Preya Samsandar at Powerline over the years.
01:08:17.000 I mean, this is just one piece.
01:08:18.000 There's a whole ton of social media evidence indicating not only that this man was not.
01:08:24.000 Using his proper name, but also that she married his brother or she married her brother.
01:08:28.000 Yeah.
01:08:29.000 And she would have presumably married her brother to help him with immigration.
01:08:35.000 So, I mean, that's the presumption.
01:08:36.000 Correct.
01:08:37.000 Yeah.
01:08:37.000 It's not, we're not arguing incest here.
01:08:38.000 We're arguing immigration fraud.
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01:09:59.000 Who was this man that was your husband?
01:10:01.000 When did they start saying that he was your brother?
01:10:03.000 Why?
01:10:05.000 I started with the Somali blog that I don't know if it still exists, but somebody put in there that, you know, that he had to have been my brother or something to that effect.
01:10:18.000 And right wing conspiracy theorists in Minneapolis got a hold of it.
01:10:24.000 You were not related to him at all.
01:10:26.000 Not that much.
01:10:26.000 There's not some weird kernel of truth that threw some game at you.
01:10:29.000 Not to my knowledge.
01:10:31.000 You know, a lot of attention's gone on the not to my knowledge part, but what really stood out to me is just the fact that he says, Who is this guy that they're saying, you know, as your brother?
01:10:41.000 Who is your husband?
01:10:42.000 And she never actually answers that question.
01:10:46.000 Like, the easiest way to shut this down would be to say, Yeah, I met this guy while I was on a trip to family in the UK.
01:10:52.000 Here's his background.
01:10:54.000 Here's how we got married.
01:10:54.000 You know, I was in a difficulty with my husband.
01:10:56.000 We've never had that laid out.
01:10:58.000 She just quickly moves on to, Oh, yeah, it came from a blog.
01:11:01.000 Don't let's not say any more about him.
01:11:03.000 I have never heard her describe anything about this guy.
01:11:06.000 It's so shady.
01:11:07.000 Well, and right.
01:11:09.000 I mean, not, you know, the big E on the eye chart here is, though, not to my knowledge.
01:11:13.000 I mean, that is just the weirdest way to answer that question.
01:11:16.000 There shouldn't be any doubt whether you married your brother.
01:11:19.000 The other thing I've been just percolating on since our last segment, Will, was you were talking about how, if this is her brother, they got married with a Christian pastor.
01:11:30.000 Now, if you're a Muslim, that is a sign that you know you're doing something that is not allowed, that is sort of forbidden.
01:11:39.000 So you're going to go do it in the religion you think is false.
01:11:41.000 You're going to go do it before somebody that is not representative of the true faith that you ascribe to.
01:11:47.000 So, it just feels like a slap in the face and another little clue in this puzzle as you're unraveling it here.
01:11:53.000 Now, the other thing is there's DNA.
01:11:56.000 They've been collecting DNA from personal trash items.
01:12:01.000 And apparently, they're going to use that to confirm that this was a sham marriage that she was engaged in with her brother.
01:12:11.000 Notably, she didn't have any kids with him either.
01:12:14.000 And the fact that she's been married three times is also another just strange.
01:12:18.000 Thing here.
01:12:19.000 Anyways, I just want to flag one more thing that just can hint at how petty and how casual this fraud can be.
01:12:28.000 I'm looking back at some of the early Powerline blog posts that helped uncover this back in 2019.
01:12:35.000 And, like, why would she do this jam marriage?
01:12:36.000 It might have been immigration fraud.
01:12:38.000 But another reason, apparently, at that time, both of them were attending North Dakota State University in Fargo.
01:12:44.000 And you can get better housing if you're a married couple.
01:12:46.000 Like, it may be as casual fraud as that.
01:12:48.000 Oh, we can get a bigger apartment if we fill out these forms and, you know, do this.
01:12:52.000 Woo-wah to make it seem like we're a married couple.
01:12:54.000 Like, that is how deep fraud can go.
01:12:56.000 Just invent a marriage to get a slightly better dormitory while you're going to a university.
01:13:04.000 I believe that's a good question.
01:13:06.000 You're going to love this fact.
01:13:08.000 Three people were registered to live at that address that they were all at at North Dakota University at the very same time.
01:13:15.000 That would be her first husband and herself, right?
01:13:17.000 The person she shared three children with, and her second husband.
01:13:21.000 So they were all living together in the same house.
01:13:23.000 Huh.
01:13:24.000 That seems real, right?
01:13:26.000 Like, normally, you know, I mean, look, I haven't been divorced, God forbid, but like, one would think that a divorced couple would not want the ex spouse to be living in the same house with them.
01:13:37.000 Perhaps this was fake, right?
01:13:40.000 And we know it's also fake because the, you know, despite having never like formally registered the original first marriage, you have in 2015 the couple that shares two, three children filing a joint tax return.
01:13:54.000 Like, it was just obvious.
01:13:55.000 There's something obviously fake about it.
01:13:57.000 And again, it's like the fact that she can't even describe this person she supposedly married.
01:14:03.000 There's lies about how long she knew this person, when she stopped contact with him.
01:14:06.000 Like she made a claim that she, in her divorce filings, again under oath, that she hadn't seen or heard from him since 2011.
01:14:14.000 But there are social media posts indicating that her responding and interacting with this guy as late as 2013.
01:14:22.000 There's also social media posts from this guy referring to around the time Ilhan Omar gave birth to at least one of her children, to referring to them as referring to a picture that he had taken as.
01:14:33.000 With some children as nieces.
01:14:36.000 So there's just this pile of evidence that doesn't prove it, but really is just unbelievable.
01:14:40.000 It's so infuriating.
01:14:42.000 I think about that scandal that happened in Britain with Professor Jacer and Arde, where he got exposed.
01:14:48.000 He was doing academic fraud, and it caused a bit of a feeding frenzy with the media where they started to realize there's so many things about this guy's life that are a lie and it should be newsworthy.
01:14:58.000 Like, even if it were the case that you can't denaturalize Ilhan Omar, that All the statute of limitations of past that you can't prosecute her right now.
01:15:07.000 It should be incredibly interesting to our media class.
01:15:11.000 All of this behavior, it should be seen.
01:15:14.000 They should say, This is incredibly bizarre.
01:15:16.000 We should figure out what happened here.
01:15:18.000 It seems like we have a member of Congress who's very prominent who lies a lot about her personal history.
01:15:23.000 She's lying about marriages, she's doing bizarre stuff.
01:15:26.000 You could get such an insight into this world.
01:15:28.000 If she were a member of a fundamentalist Christian sect that was doing weird behavior like this, they would be all over this like flies on excrement.
01:15:37.000 And the fact that they are not is just so damning of our media apparatus that they can just see this giant, it's like a black hole emanating out of the Somali community in Minnesota that makes them go, nothing interesting here, nothing to see.
01:15:50.000 We're not going to talk about it.
01:15:52.000 Don't ask any questions.
01:15:53.000 They are the laziest people in the world.
01:15:56.000 It reminds me of the Biden senility story.
01:15:57.000 Yeah.
01:15:58.000 That's what it reminds me of.
01:15:59.000 Yeah.
01:16:00.000 Well, so let's look.
01:16:02.000 There's also the financial aspect of this, maybe go into that a little bit.
01:16:05.000 You know, it just seems like another.
01:16:07.000 You know, smoke, there must be fire element here because, again, this casual nature of fraud within the Somali community seems to be a perfect representation of a larger fraud problem that we've become so aware of this year.
01:16:20.000 But then I want to know what you think is ultimately the most likely outcome to this investigation.
01:16:25.000 Is it deportation, denaturalization?
01:16:27.000 Is it prison?
01:16:29.000 Floor is yours, minute and a half.
01:16:30.000 So, on the financial side, I think the most interesting dynamic here is to realize that if Ilhan Omar has this compromised family history and This history of not being properly admitted to the country, not being properly naturalized, immigration fraud, endless lying, that would make her an incredibly compromised person for blackmail within her own family.
01:16:53.000 This strikes me as the kind of thing that if you saw this in the Italian mafia, this is like a plot out of The Sopranos.
01:16:59.000 They would exploit someone like this ruthlessly who had this kind of criminal history and couldn't have it revealed publicly.
01:17:05.000 So it strikes me that, especially given what's been revealed by the types of Nick Shirley and the Feeding Our Future scandal and what seems like endless fraud in the Somali community in Minnesota.
01:17:14.000 She would be the perfect tool of one of these organized fraud rings to get legal protection and legal assistance from a legislature.
01:17:24.000 And so I wouldn't be surprised at all if she's somehow involved and that maybe she was, you know, wanted to be involved out of greed.
01:17:30.000 Maybe she was compelled to be involved because of threat of revealing all this derogatory information about her and potentially ruining her life and subjecting her to criminal penalties.
01:17:39.000 Either way, it's just an example of how compromised she was and also why it's a derogation of duty upon the part of the media.
01:17:46.000 To reveal what's going on here.
01:17:47.000 So I think that's, you know, deportation, hospitalization, prison.
01:17:53.000 What do you think is going to happen in 10 seconds?
01:17:55.000 All the above.
01:17:55.000 I think she's going to face a criminal conviction for false statements on her passport.
01:17:58.000 I think she, and then ultimately, I think deported.
01:18:01.000 From your lips to God's ears, Will Chamberlain, Article III Project.
01:18:04.000 Thank you, my friend.
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