The Charlie Kirk Show - Are Democrats Now Anti-Prayer? with Pastor Jack Hibbs

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00:00:01.000 Jack Kibbs joins us.

00:00:02.000 His new book, Living in the Days of Deception.

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00:01:41.000 Really special treat this hour.

00:01:44.000 A friend and spiritual teacher of mine, someone who I watch every single week, and is just a gift to us all.

00:01:52.000 Jack Hibbs joins us for the full hour.

00:01:55.000 Jack, I got to tell you, I'm a little bit jealous.

00:01:58.000 You have the entire House of Representatives denouncing you, or not all of it.

00:02:02.000 How did you get to be so lucky?

00:02:04.000 Well, you know, it turns out that luck was actually a blessing whereby I offered up Charlie at Mike House Speaker Mike Johnson's invitation to pray and open up the 118th Congress.

00:02:18.000 I had a chance to do that back in 2013.

00:02:18.000 Real honor.

00:02:22.000 So anyway, I went.

00:02:23.000 It was on January 30th.

00:02:25.000 And Charlie, I got to tell you, I had the milquetoast pre-approved prayer.

00:02:31.000 You know, you had to submit a prayer of 150 words or less.

00:02:35.000 It had to be gender neutral.

00:02:36.000 It could say God, but not define who God is.

00:02:39.000 And you avoid the name of Jesus because that's proselytizing.

00:02:44.000 And I realized, you know what, what am I doing here?

00:02:47.000 What am I doing here?

00:02:49.000 I'm going to go into this house that is in very much forsaken God.

00:02:54.000 And if I get arrested, shot, die, whatever, I've got to stand for the truth.

00:03:01.000 And so I just simply Charlie looked at a couple of historic prayers from the past.

00:03:06.000 As far back as 1774, I threw a little bit of Abraham Lincoln in there and Bishop or yeah, Bishop Duchesne and Chauncey and a few others.

00:03:17.000 And so I offered up a prayer that was two-thirds other great preachers and chaplains that have gone before me.

00:03:26.000 And then I threw in a little bit of me or my prayer.

00:03:30.000 And it was biblically based, 100%.

00:03:32.000 In fact, Charlie, it's a matter of record.

00:03:34.000 People can look at it.

00:03:35.000 Many people have.

00:03:37.000 Some people audibly has taken the audio of it from C-SPAN and they've edited it, which is unfortunate.

00:03:43.000 But I offered this prayer.

00:03:46.000 Here's the original prayer signed by Mike Johnson himself.

00:03:51.000 And somebody told me last night, they said, you know, this thing's not going away.

00:03:55.000 This is picking up steam still.

00:03:57.000 And last Friday, it was the trending news on Fox Digital, which is crazy for me.

00:04:04.000 And bottom line, Charlie, is this.

00:04:06.000 Somebody said, you know what?

00:04:07.000 I think this just might turn out to be the prayer that was heard around the world because we've gotten response from Germany and from London.

00:04:15.000 And just saying, Pastor Jack, thanks for praying a biblically based prayer.

00:04:19.000 And then finally, Charlie, congressmen and women came up to me after I prayed, gave me a hug, and they said, you know what?

00:04:25.000 We haven't heard a Christian prayer here in years.

00:04:27.000 Thank you.

00:04:28.000 So for that, I'm in big trouble.

00:04:30.000 Jack, I can't even put into words the amount of respect I have for you.

00:04:34.000 I want to play the prayer, and I have questions about it.

00:04:36.000 And I want to talk about that wrestling that you had, the instructions from the secular regime, and then putting God first, regardless of the cost and the price.

00:04:49.000 And I have a very fun theological question about that.

00:04:52.000 I think you're going to love, Jack.

00:04:54.000 Let's play cut 48, the prayer heard around the world.

00:04:58.000 I ask you today, Father, to bring to us a great awakening of righteousness and confidence in you, who alone is mighty to save.

00:05:08.000 Hear my cry in this hour of great need that we might be humbly blessed before you in the repentance of our national sins.

00:05:20.000 You, Almighty God, are the source of all wisdom, and there is no wisdom but that which comes from you.

00:05:27.000 So please come upon those here who are the stewards over the business of our nation with your wisdom, which comes from above and with your holy fear, knowing that your coming day of judgment draws near when all who have been and are now in authority will answer to you, the great judge of heaven and of earth, for the decisions that they make here in this place.

00:05:55.000 I offer this prayer to you, Father, in the name of Jesus Christ, our son, your son, and our crucified Savior and resurrected Lord.

00:06:05.000 In Jesus' name, amen.

00:06:09.000 Jack, why is that controversial?

00:06:12.000 Why is that considered to be against the standards of the regime?

00:06:17.000 Yeah, first sentence, Almighty God, that's okay.

00:06:20.000 Father, not okay.

00:06:21.000 Gender insensitive.

00:06:23.000 Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, that's evangelism.

00:06:26.000 You're not allowed to do two of those things.

00:06:29.000 When I said that we ought to come together in humility for the forgiveness of our sins, seeking the forgiveness of your sins, have mercy on us.

00:06:39.000 I was implying that we are sinful, that America is in a state of sin.

00:06:45.000 I'm not kidding you.

00:06:46.000 But it's not implying, Jack, it's a fact.

00:06:47.000 But please continue.

00:06:48.000 I just, this is a mockery.

00:06:50.000 No, it's an absolute fact.

00:06:52.000 And for somebody to not recognize that we as a nation are not a sinful nation is insane.

00:06:58.000 But to make reference to the fact that for over some 250 years, prayer has been offered up in this Congress for protection and guidance.

00:07:08.000 Those who, those 26 congressmen and women who condemned me, they went on to write a statement to Mike Johnson saying, this guy believes that the United States is founded upon Judeo-Christian values, and that is absolutely systematically false, which, Charlie, is amazing for me because all you've got to do, and you know this, what am I telling you about?

00:07:28.000 Read the state constitution.

00:07:31.000 You look at all of what was going on in the 13 colonies, but even before that, read the first paragraph of the Mayflower Compact for Crying Out Loud.

00:07:40.000 And like it or not, I presented accurate biblical theological truth, and it didn't go over well.

00:07:46.000 And to prove that, Ilan Omar was one of the first to absolutely just flip her lid because Jesus, our crucified Savior and resurrected Lord.

00:07:57.000 That goes against her religion. 0.78

00:07:57.000 Look, it's funny. 0.78

00:08:00.000 So we're in America.

00:08:01.000 We have religious freedom, but I can't pray a prayer that is in line with Bible.

00:08:06.000 But I'm sure that if I was in line with Allah in the Quran, she would have had a great joy out of it.

00:08:15.000 It just goes to show you, Charlie, how far our nation, when we've got elected leaders who don't even know the basics of our founding as a nation, certainly is indicative of how much peril we really are in.

00:08:29.000 We have forgotten God.

00:08:30.000 We've kicked him out of court.

00:08:32.000 We've kicked him out of school.

00:08:33.000 We've kicked him out of government.

00:08:34.000 Here's the funny thing, Charlie.

00:08:36.000 When you're standing at that podium, they tell you a very reverent thing before you walk up there.

00:08:41.000 They say, at this location, no one stands here for all of these decades or centuries except the president, the speaker of the house, and the chaplain.

00:08:54.000 Wow.

00:08:55.000 And this is Holy Grail.

00:08:56.000 And I thought, that's awesome.

00:08:58.000 Thank you, God.

00:09:00.000 Well, that just added more zeal to me sticking to a biblically based prayer.

00:09:06.000 And so when you're standing there, Charlie, over your head, over the top on the wall, it says, in God we trust.

00:09:12.000 Well, In God We Trust is behind you, but behind me.

00:09:16.000 And then looking straight ahead up the aisle is the only full face of the lawgivers throughout human history.

00:09:22.000 Everybody else has got a side fresco of their profile except one guy.

00:09:28.000 And it's Moses looking right at your face when you're standing at that podium.

00:09:32.000 And I wasn't about to give some melt toast, godless prayer with Moses looking right at my face.

00:09:38.000 No way.

00:09:39.000 Jack, I want to just make sure I'm clear, though.

00:09:42.000 Just can you give us more detail?

00:09:44.000 This wasn't Speaker Johnson.

00:09:45.000 He was, that was the one that was trying to tell you.

00:09:48.000 Was this who wrote these rules?

00:09:50.000 How did they communicate them to you?

00:09:52.000 I'm incredibly curious.

00:09:53.000 Yeah.

00:09:54.000 To all credit and honor to the chaplain and to the chaplaincy office, they are obeying rules that have been imposed upon them many, many decades ago.

00:10:04.000 Somebody, we're going to try to find this out.

00:10:06.000 Somebody somewhere said, this is how the chaplain's office has got to conduct itself regarding religious affairs.

00:10:12.000 These are the limits.

00:10:13.000 These are the rules.

00:10:14.000 Thus, they just simply regurgitate what they've been told.

00:10:18.000 And so because of that, they've taken so much heat.

00:10:21.000 Mike Johnson's taken so much heat.

00:10:23.000 In fact, we're going to launch a letter writing campaign to encourage both the chaplain and Mike Johnson because we're getting letters, Charlie, here from people saying, thank you.

00:10:32.000 How can we help?

00:10:34.000 Well, I love that.

00:10:35.000 And Jack, just, and I will communicate this to Speaker Johnson.

00:10:40.000 Those rules can be changed.

00:10:42.000 The Speaker of the House can change house rules.

00:10:44.000 They can change rules.

00:10:45.000 For example, they changed rules for remote COVID voting under Pelosi.

00:10:50.000 There's no reason why Speaker Johnson can't change these rules.

00:10:54.000 And this idea of gendered language, I mean, that you can't, it is repulsive that you can't say Abba, Father, which is what every single one of our founding fathers believed.

00:11:06.000 It's amazing to think that if the founding fathers would have prayed the way that Jack prayed, they would have been censured or they would have been punished.

00:11:15.000 Many of the founding fathers would have given a prayer identical to what Jack Kibbs did.

00:11:21.000 And by the way, he's there for a prayer, and you're going to censor people's prayers.

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00:12:34.000 So, Jack, the chaplain's office communicated this to you, correct?

00:12:39.000 The chaplain kind of deep state.

00:12:42.000 And so, let me play around with this for a second because I think it's important.

00:12:46.000 Were you in violation of Romans 13, Jack?

00:12:49.000 Because some people say you must just listen to the government.

00:12:52.000 You just must listen to what the government says.

00:12:54.000 I'm saying this somewhat facetiously, but you put God above a secular mandate.

00:13:00.000 Can you riff on this for a little bit?

00:13:02.000 Tell people what Romans 13 is, the misapplication of that in kind of today's America, and why you believe what you did was biblical.

00:13:13.000 Because I think what you did was purely biblical and inspiring.

00:13:17.000 Jack Hibbs.

00:13:18.000 Yeah, number one, paraphrasing, you can read it in detail by going to the scriptures.

00:13:22.000 Romans chapter 13, Paul announces to those believers in Rome that regarding the governing powers that God has established over us, they are God's instruments.

00:13:33.000 They are God's tools to uphold righteousness.

00:13:36.000 And those who do righteous need not fear them.

00:13:39.000 However, those that do unrighteousness must be in fear of them, knowing that they've been appointed by God and that that minister of righteousness does not bear his sword in vain.

00:13:53.000 In other words, the justice that God imputes upon a lawbreaker will be brought down upon you by those who uphold and have been appointed by God, who are in places of authority.

00:14:05.000 Having said that, now this is what happened in my life.

00:14:08.000 And I believe that with all my heart, by the way, remember, it says that they are appointed by God for good, to do good.

00:14:15.000 So we must first, to understand Romans 13, you got to identify what is good.

00:14:20.000 What is good?

00:14:21.000 That which is what honors God is what's good.

00:14:24.000 So when I did my prayer originally, Charlie, I realized this prayer is generic.

00:14:29.000 If I obey these rules, it could be offered.

00:14:32.000 This could be to some shaman.

00:14:35.000 It could be to Allah.

00:14:36.000 It could be to Brahma.

00:14:38.000 It could be anybody.

00:14:39.000 You don't even know who I'm talking about.

00:14:41.000 And I was so convicted that the Lord said, listen, you're going to this place and you're going to do this.

00:14:47.000 I'm not going to be in this prayer.

00:14:49.000 I'm not honored.

00:14:50.000 It's not in the name of my son.

00:14:53.000 And you need to pray a prayer that you know from this nation's history and what needs to be prayed today.

00:15:01.000 So I attempted to, watch this.

00:15:03.000 I attempted to obey the rules like any other pastor might do to keep the peace, which is a joke.

00:15:10.000 I set aside that milk toast prayer and went with a biblical prayer.

00:15:15.000 And the result proves that God was working because the fallout from that prayer has caused Christians to stand up.

00:15:24.000 I've got letters from pastors across the nation.

00:15:26.000 And for people, Charlie, last Sunday, I was told by pastors that they played the prayer at their church services around the U.S.

00:15:35.000 It is embolding people.

00:15:37.000 It's honoring God.

00:15:38.000 It's giving glory to Jesus.

00:15:39.000 And it's calling us as a nation back to repentance.

00:15:43.000 In other words, it was the right prayer.

00:15:45.000 Come to find out, I 100% obeyed Romans 13.

00:15:51.000 Jack, and I think that's beautiful.

00:15:53.000 And remember, in Acts, it says we obey God, not man.

00:15:56.000 And you should never, as a pastor, as a representative of the divine and the holy, if somebody is instructing you, government or otherwise, to violate your duty as a pastor, you do not do that.

00:16:10.000 I mean, that would be almost blasphemying the Holy Spirit.

00:16:15.000 Is that correct, Jack?

00:16:15.000 Am I right?

00:16:17.000 You're 100% correct.

00:16:18.000 It goes so far, Charlie, to not only back it up, as you just stated, but the scripture says that we are to obey scripture.

00:16:26.000 And then if there's anything beyond that, the Bible says you need to never violate your own conscience.

00:16:32.000 So if you and I, Charlie, were eating in-and-out burgers and we found out that they'd been offered to it, yeah, which we love, if we found out that they were offered to an idol, we would say, Charlie, are you okay if I'm eating meat offered to an idol?

00:16:45.000 Because an idol is a joke.

00:16:47.000 Oh, I'm good with it.

00:16:47.000 Let's eat it.

00:16:48.000 Praise God.

00:16:49.000 Hallelujah.

00:16:50.000 But if our brother next to us said, I don't feel right about eating a hamburger that was offered to some idol somewhere, then you and I would abstain from eating the burger in front of our brother so he doesn't stumble.

00:17:01.000 The point is this, our conscience must be clear before God.

00:17:05.000 Okay?

00:17:05.000 And we must be biblical about how we exercise our conduct.

00:17:09.000 Two beautiful things that speak of the divine law of God.

00:17:13.000 He's written his truth upon our hearts, and he has produced his truth in written form for us to read and study.

00:17:20.000 Those two things must always, always come together.

00:17:23.000 You never violate the conscience where God is convicting you about this, about drink, about meat, about whatever.

00:17:31.000 And you must obey the word of God.

00:17:33.000 And so it's our hope, Charlie, as this continues, man, you know, the attorneys have gotten a hold of me, big ones.

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00:17:47.000 They have called you a hate preacher in the media now.

00:17:49.000 It's just, it's outrageous, Jack.

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00:18:44.000 So Jack, I really want to get in your book, Living in the Days of Deception, but you really are like the number one news story right now in faith and Christianity and politics.

00:18:52.000 Any other thoughts, Jack, on this?

00:18:56.000 Things you've learned.

00:18:58.000 Are you at all surprised by the backlash?

00:19:00.000 And can you also, actually, I want you to say this.

00:19:03.000 Talk about the moment that you were wrestling with the milquetoast prayer and the prayer you delivered.

00:19:09.000 Kind of what brought you to that, you know, leaning on the word of God.

00:19:12.000 And what can people in this audience who might be struggling with similar edicts, mandates, orders, what can they learn from your experience, Jack Gibbs?

00:19:23.000 Thank you.

00:19:24.000 Brilliant question.

00:19:25.000 So I have no idea that publicly, even internationally, would my struggle to obey God be lived out and talked about where, right, I had the politically correct prayer in my hand.

00:19:38.000 Okay.

00:19:40.000 And the Lord made it very clear, that's got to be changed.

00:19:44.000 You either honor me or you don't even go to this thing.

00:19:47.000 And so I just sat down and typed out the God's version of that prayer.

00:19:53.000 It honored him.

00:19:54.000 Think about this.

00:19:55.000 Charlie, it honored him in face of retaliation.

00:19:58.000 People are not going to like this.

00:19:59.000 What am I going to do?

00:20:00.000 Do I do what's safe for me?

00:20:02.000 Do I want to be invited back?

00:20:05.000 You know, you weigh these things out as humans.

00:20:07.000 Well, I don't want to ruffle any feathers.

00:20:09.000 Well, wait a minute.

00:20:11.000 God says truth ruffles feathers.

00:20:13.000 You honor me or you're going to honor man.

00:20:16.000 You pick, Jack.

00:20:17.000 You're still my son.

00:20:18.000 You're still my kid.

00:20:19.000 I'm still with you.

00:20:20.000 But you choose.

00:20:21.000 I chose to honor God.

00:20:23.000 And so what happened was we all live like that as believers.

00:20:26.000 Every single day, we got to make a decision to do what we want to do as a husband or as a wife or as a father or as a mom, or we do what God wants us to do.

00:20:35.000 And at the end of the day, Charlie, it's our obedience to him that proves the fact that we love him.

00:20:42.000 I chose to love him over my own self-protection.

00:20:45.000 Yeah, we have been threatened.

00:20:47.000 We've had to jack up our security because of a prayer.

00:20:53.000 Well, the funny thing is a lot of people in America, Charlie, thought I was praying to them or praying for their approval.

00:20:59.000 And they missed the fact that I was talking to the eternal almighty God, not looking for any of man's approval, but his alone.

00:21:06.000 So every one of us as Christians need to realize the hour is upon us, everybody.

00:21:10.000 It's not arriving.

00:21:11.000 It's upon us to take a stand regardless of the outcome.

00:21:15.000 We need to be Daniel's today.

00:21:16.000 We need to be Deborah's today like never before.

00:21:20.000 And Daniel's a perfect example.

00:21:22.000 Daniel honored God despite what the authorities told him.

00:21:26.000 They said, you can't pray.

00:21:27.000 And he said, well, look, I'm going to open up the window and I'm going to pray anyway and for the whole city to see.

00:21:34.000 And so, Jack, I just, I love this because some people, you know, pastors, they'll talk a good game.

00:21:40.000 And then when it comes, the lights are bright and you're at that mantle where only presidents and speaker of the houses are.

00:21:47.000 They just say, okay, to the ungendered being of the universe, please bless all of it.

00:21:55.000 You just, you went right in and God will honor you and honor your church and honor your movement for that.

00:22:02.000 And I think it's a great connection then, Jack, to your book, Living in the Days of Deception.

00:22:08.000 It's a play on words.

00:22:09.000 It's D-A-Z-E because we're also in the days of deception.

00:22:14.000 Jack, what are the days of deception?

00:22:16.000 What does the Bible tell us?

00:22:18.000 Yeah, it's amazing.

00:22:19.000 Charlie, with all the prophetic scripture, prophetic, eschatological doctrines of the Bible, great scholars argue, but listen to their argument, either 27% of the Bible or 31, 32% of the Bible is eschatological or prophetic in nature, which blows my mind.

00:22:37.000 Over a quarter of the Bible is prophetic in nature.

00:22:40.000 And so what's the most important thing according to Jesus regarding Bible prophecy?

00:22:45.000 The disciples asked him in Matthew 24, they said, when are you coming back?

00:22:49.000 When are you going to establish your kingdom?

00:22:51.000 And what will the end of the world look like?

00:22:52.000 The first thing that Jesus said in Matthew 24 was, be careful, nobody deceives you.

00:22:58.000 First thing, deception.

00:23:00.000 So what happened, Charlie, this book came out of a series I taught during COVID.

00:23:05.000 We began, as you well know, you came here.

00:23:07.000 We were starting to adopt people from other churches who churches were closed.

00:23:12.000 And I quickly discovered these people were asking me after service.

00:23:16.000 Pastor Jack, I've been a Christian for 20 years.

00:23:18.000 You just said today in John chapter three that I have to be born again.

00:23:21.000 I never heard that before.

00:23:23.000 Holy cow, Charlie, we pivoted and stopped right there in the book.

00:23:27.000 We stopped in the book of Romans.

00:23:28.000 We stopped there in Hebrews, and I pivoted to a series called Living in the Days of Deception.

00:23:35.000 And I went through the things that are plaguing people today who claim to know God.

00:23:41.000 They think they've read their Bible.

00:23:43.000 They can't define one thing that they believe in.

00:23:46.000 And that's where we start.

00:23:47.000 Deception has so encroached upon our government, upon our lives, upon our nation.

00:23:52.000 And so living in the days of deception, that fog, that mist of being confused, even the church, I say the church today, is confused because it's being deceived by wokeism.

00:24:05.000 It's being deceived by a bad view of Israel.

00:24:08.000 It's being deceived by an ill definition of what church is.

00:24:12.000 And it just goes on and on, Charlie.

00:24:14.000 And so it turns out to be a very prescient book.

00:24:17.000 We had no idea.

00:24:18.000 We finished it quite some time ago, I mean, a little less than a year ago, but the publisher thought, you know what, let's hold this over for election season.

00:24:28.000 We think it's going to be important to hold it over. 0.79

00:24:30.000 And I thought the guy was crazy.

00:24:32.000 And lo and behold, who could have put this together?

00:24:34.000 The congressional prayer, the book being released, and all of this stuff because of what's going on here in the LA area, I endorsed Steve Garvey.

00:24:46.000 So the threats of lawsuit, IRS investigation.

00:24:50.000 And so this is all great because we're ready.

00:24:52.000 And we've, so to speak, lawyered up because we're going to take this attack, Charlie.

00:24:58.000 We're not going to let them threaten us.

00:25:00.000 We're not going to let them bully us.

00:25:03.000 We're going to follow through.

00:25:05.000 If they wind up suing us or not, we're going to follow through with standing for our Judeo-Christian biblical base.

00:25:12.000 In fact, not only our constitutional right, Charlie, but here's my spirit.

00:25:18.000 Wait, you've called us a cult.

00:25:20.000 You've called me a weak leader. 0.95

00:25:23.000 You've called me a homophobe, an Islamophobe. 0.81

00:25:27.000 Well, you know what?

00:25:29.000 I appeal to Caesar.

00:25:31.000 I'm standing with Paul, and I'm going to appeal to Caesar against these accusations.

00:25:35.000 And we're going to take this as far as we can to punish unrighteousness with righteousness.

00:25:42.000 And talk about that, Jack.

00:25:44.000 Paul invoked his Roman citizenship when accusations were met against him.

00:25:49.000 Just educate our audience on this, please.

00:25:52.000 Yeah, you say, oh, you know, we need to be biblical.

00:25:54.000 We need to stay out of politics.

00:25:56.000 You cannot find anywhere from Old to New Testament any believer staying out of politics.

00:26:02.000 It's impossible.

00:26:03.000 Paul leveraged his politics when he was being accused by the Sanhedrin and by the Pharisees of crimes committed against Judaism.

00:26:15.000 When Paul was standing in Caesarea and he was given an account, Paul, what's going on with you?

00:26:21.000 He said, this is what they're saying against me.

00:26:24.000 It's all wrong.

00:26:25.000 And what I'm going to do is I'm going to appeal to Caesar.

00:26:29.000 When Paul said that by, can I put it this way, Charlie?

00:26:33.000 By their constitution, the moment a Roman citizen said, I appeal to Caesar, they had to take their case to Caesar's Supreme Court. 0.53

00:26:43.000 It was a law.

00:26:44.000 It was their constitutional right.

00:26:46.000 And the moment that Paul did that, he got an instant access to the highest court in the empire.

00:26:54.000 And that's what we're going to do.

00:26:56.000 We're going to do the exact same thing, Charlie, because it is our biblical right.

00:27:00.000 It's scriptural.

00:27:01.000 And it's also something so rare that the American citizen has the ability to appeal to our Supreme Court to make their case for their innocence.

00:27:12.000 And that is doing righteousness.

00:27:14.000 The Bible says do righteousness.

00:27:15.000 Listen to this, Charlie.

00:27:17.000 2 Corinthians 10, verse 6 says that when your obedience is exercised by punishing the disobedience, it is then that your obedience shall be honored by God.

00:27:30.000 We need the church to do righteousness again winsomely, lovingly, speak the truth in love, but never compromise the truth, even on the altar of unity.

00:27:41.000 Never.

00:27:42.000 Always truth.

00:27:43.000 Never, never should it be sacrificed.

00:27:45.000 The book is Days of Deception by Jack Hibbs, and it is organized, dazed by deceptive spirits, dazed by doctrines of demons.

00:27:55.000 Talk about that.

00:27:56.000 What do you mean by doctrines of demons, Jack?

00:28:00.000 Yeah, again, the Bible, the epistles tell us that there's always going to be a spirit.

00:28:06.000 1 John says there's always a spirit of Antichrist in the world.

00:28:10.000 But he said, I did tell you that the Antichrist is coming, but even now there are many Antichrists that are in the world by spirit.

00:28:17.000 And the things that they propagate is false doctrine.

00:28:20.000 Now, Charlie, most people have taken deception, the doctrines of demons and deceiving spirits, and they've locked them into the church, Charlie.

00:28:28.000 They have somehow corralled them to think, well, we're okay.

00:28:31.000 We're safe from that as long as we don't go to a bad sermon or a goofy church.

00:28:36.000 We're okay.

00:28:36.000 No, These doctrines of demons and evil spirits teaching false things.

00:28:42.000 If you want to look for them, look for them in all of the areas of power, be it government, politics, authority, corporate wheeling and dealing, church.

00:28:53.000 It's everywhere.

00:28:54.000 It's listen, it's definition of gender. 1.00

00:28:57.000 That's a doctrine of demons. 1.00

00:28:59.000 Redefining marriage. 0.93

00:29:00.000 That's the teaching of evil spirits.

00:29:02.000 Notice, Charlie, that everything that's going on in our world right now is going after the human who has been created in the image of God.

00:29:10.000 And Satan hates our guts and he wants us destroyed.

00:29:14.000 And so now children are being told under this public school system, you know, you may or may not be a boy or a girl.

00:29:21.000 That's a direct attack against God's ability to create male and female.

00:29:25.000 People need to wake up that the doctrines of demons and evil spirits are even attacking atheists.

00:29:30.000 They don't realize this.

00:29:32.000 Can you just tease out how you would respond to churches or pastors that say, Jack, you're too political.

00:29:38.000 You're a Christian nationalist.

00:29:40.000 Why even speak out on these issues?

00:29:42.000 How do you respond to that, Jack?

00:29:43.000 Yep.

00:29:44.000 Yep.

00:29:44.000 Here's the teaser.

00:29:45.000 Define to me what a Christian nationalist is.

00:29:48.000 I want to hear the definition.

00:29:51.000 Then I can answer you from where you're thinking.

00:29:54.000 And typically they can't.

00:29:55.000 And they will use it as a pejorative and a slur.

00:30:00.000 The book is Days of Deception, Living in the Days of Deception.

00:30:03.000 Jack, how is the book doing?

00:30:05.000 I just found out I'm not allowed to tell you the numbers anymore.

00:30:08.000 I wound up mentioning the numbers and they said, please don't mention the numbers.

00:30:11.000 I can tell you this, Charlie, that since February 6th, it has been several times on Amazon's.

00:30:18.000 It goes back and forth on Amazon, number one in Christian genre.

00:30:24.000 And as good as I'm looking at my producer right now, in the whole secular realm of Amazon, out of a million plus books, it's been around 28 or 30 from time to time.

00:30:36.000 It's gone crazy.

00:30:38.000 And I think the 26 members of the United States Congress, all Democrats who helped the sales go worldwide.

00:30:46.000 Thank you.

00:30:47.000 You should send a signed copy to every single one of them living in the days of deception.

00:30:52.000 It's a good idea, right, Jack?

00:30:54.000 Gonna do it, Charlie.

00:30:55.000 Thank you.

00:30:59.000 Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here.

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00:32:02.000 Jack, I was thinking, you know, they got mad at you for saying that Jesus is the judge of the world, something like that, for you praying that.

00:32:08.000 Is that correct?

00:32:09.000 You know, that's in the Declaration.

00:32:10.000 It is in the Declaration of Independence that God is the supreme judge, that we appeal to the supreme judge of the world.

00:32:18.000 And so are you, you could almost say that the last paragraph of the Declaration is a prayer.

00:32:24.000 Can you even read the Declaration anymore?

00:32:26.000 Oh, my goodness.

00:32:27.000 In fact, how long will it be, Charlie, from right now to when the Declaration of Independence is ruled unconstitutional?

00:32:35.000 Against God.

00:32:35.000 It's up.

00:32:36.000 Sorry, you can't do that.

00:32:37.000 Yeah, yeah, exactly.

00:32:38.000 You can't do that.

00:32:39.000 That's offensive.

00:32:41.000 But again, look, even if I was an atheist right now, but I was a historian, or how about this, a reader.

00:32:49.000 And you read the Mayflower Compact, the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights.

00:32:55.000 You read our founding birth certificate documents.

00:32:59.000 You cannot escape God.

00:33:00.000 Even when you go to the Jefferson Memorial in Washington, D.C., you can't escape God.

00:33:05.000 Jefferson gives honor to God on those massive marble platforms there.

00:33:11.000 And you can't avoid God in our government.

00:33:14.000 And the great thing, Charlie, is that you and I and others are just, we're not making anything up.

00:33:20.000 This is what's funny.

00:33:21.000 We're actually more historic.

00:33:24.000 With what you and I do, Charlie, Samuel Adams and George Washington would be applauding us.

00:33:30.000 They would be saying, you guys go, man.

00:33:32.000 You go.

00:33:33.000 But our current leadership, they don't even know American history.

00:33:37.000 They can't even tell you.

00:33:38.000 The one gal, I forget her name, she's pledged her allegiance to Somalia for crying out loud.

00:33:44.000 What in the world is going on?

00:33:46.000 Our founding fathers, I know this for a fact, that would be treasonous and you would not survive long.

00:33:52.000 Go read what our founding fathers did to those who committed treason.

00:33:56.000 It's punishable by death.

00:33:57.000 Wow.

00:33:58.000 That's right.

00:33:59.000 So we just gave them a great soundbite right now.

00:34:03.000 But it's true.

00:34:04.000 These two nationalists.

00:34:05.000 Yeah, but by the way, it's true.

00:34:08.000 It's actually, I think, still in the Constitution that treason is punishable by death.

00:34:12.000 So Jack, closing thoughts, your book, Living in the Days of Deception, just kind of what you want our audience to hear, to internalize.

00:34:20.000 And we're not living in normal times.

00:34:22.000 Come on.

00:34:23.000 That's why, listen, everybody.

00:34:26.000 You feel this.

00:34:27.000 You feel a daze.

00:34:28.000 The D-A-Z-E is the slap in the face. 1.00

00:34:31.000 You feel confused.

00:34:32.000 You don't know if you have any freedoms anymore.

00:34:35.000 And then what about church?

00:34:36.000 Where can I find a church that's teaching the Bible? 0.94

00:34:39.000 What about this, that?

00:34:41.000 My children, what rights do I have?

00:34:43.000 You feel your world getting whittled away and you're asking the question why.

00:34:48.000 And I want to ask you this.

00:34:49.000 Why has fear so neutered our nation from courage?

00:34:54.000 It's because of deception.

00:34:56.000 You have been deceived. 1.00

00:34:57.000 We are being deceived into be quiet, sit down, shut up. 0.88

00:35:03.000 Don't speak out against any of these evil things that we're doing or else we'll label you.

00:35:08.000 Listen, we are to live our lives before the audience of one, and that one is the Lord God Almighty will stand before Jesus someday, and it can go really well for you if you just follow him.

00:35:21.000 Apart from that, Charlie had said in that prayer that, Lord, have mercy on those and guide those and bless those who have authority in this place for the day that they will give an answer for the decisions that they've made.

00:35:35.000 And that is true.

00:35:36.000 We will all answer before the Lord God.

00:35:39.000 And Congress just heard about that.

00:35:42.000 So the high stakes battle for every single Christian, the greatest antidote to deception is truth, which is Jesus Christ.

00:35:51.000 Equip yourself now to grow in discernment so that you could protect yourself from error and remain steadfast in your faith.

00:35:58.000 Jack Hibbs, you have been doing such an amazing job.

00:36:01.000 Just final closing thought.

00:36:03.000 How do you keep joy and keep smiling through all the persecution?

00:36:09.000 Bible time, every day in the Bible.

00:36:12.000 I don't have a vitamin.

00:36:13.000 I'm not taking rough greens to strengthen me.

00:36:19.000 I don't have a protein drink.

00:36:21.000 It's Bible.

00:36:22.000 Friends, listen, how about this?

00:36:24.000 I've got a rule.

00:36:25.000 I do not eat any food in the morning until I first have fed my soul, my spirit in the Bible.

00:36:31.000 Bible, simply read in the Bible.

00:36:32.000 Charlie, that's the answer.

00:36:34.000 I don't have any fancy answer.

00:36:35.000 That's the answer.

00:36:36.000 Jack Hibbs, check it out.

00:36:38.000 Living in the days of deception.

00:36:39.000 God bless, Jack.

00:36:40.000 Thanks so much.

00:36:41.000 Love you, Charlie.

00:36:42.000 Talk to you soon.

00:36:42.000 Thanks so much for listening.

00:36:43.000 Everybody, email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:36:46.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - March 13, 2024

Are Democrats Now Anti-Prayer? with Pastor Jack Hibbs

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