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00:01:54.000This is from Eric, who says, Charlie, I just saw the breaking news that Hillary herself approved leaking the Alpha Bank story to the press.
00:02:06.000I know you've said before that Hillary and the real big fish won't get arrested or indicted.
00:02:10.000Does this change things for you, Eric?
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00:02:16.000This is a bombshell story that has come out in the last couple of days.
00:02:20.000So this is coming up because of the trial of Michael Sussman.
00:02:23.000Now, if you are confused about Michael Sussman and Alpha Bank, I encourage you to go back a week ago where we had Kash Patel join the program and listen to that whole episode.
00:02:36.000We're going to repost it on CharlieKirk.com where we go into great detail of Michael Sussman and the indictments.
00:02:43.000We've been playing it on our live stream actually in between the breaks.
00:02:47.000And so we've been getting great response from that.
00:02:49.000So a lot of the kind of Clinton characters have been called to testify in this case.
00:02:57.000And so the chief beta male of the Hillary Clinton machine is a low testosterone, rather, let's say, I don't want to say, he's just not a good guy.
00:03:47.000It looks more and more clear that way, where John Durham has called a lot of these people to testify to find out who exactly approved the payment.
00:03:57.000Now, up until this moment, right now, and the breaking news that has happened in the last hour, there has been no credible evidence by anybody in the Clinton clown car that has showed that Hillary Clinton herself was involved in any of this activity.
00:04:17.000Now, we, of course, knew that she actually is because we have common sense and we can see things as they are.
00:04:24.000It doesn't take a lot of leap to realize that Hillary Clinton would do this, but not enough where you could present it to a jury.
00:04:31.000And not enough where you would present it to a judge.
00:04:35.000Well, Robbie Mook was testifying and he said in court today that Hillary Clinton, quote, Hillary Clinton herself approved the idea of giving the fake Alpha Bank story to a reporter.
00:04:51.000Quote, we told her we have this and we want to share it with a reporter.
00:04:59.000So Hillary Clinton personally okayed the sharing of the Trump-Russia data campaign.
00:05:06.000Now, does it go a level deeper, which of course would then criminally implicate Hillary Clinton, which is that Hillary Clinton personally sign off on the asset transfer that funded the fake dossier?
00:05:18.000And even more so, where Hillary Clinton would be in even more trouble.
00:05:23.000And even more, let's say, difficult waters would be if there is evidence to show that Hillary Clinton knew that Sussman going to the FBI was part of the strategy.
00:05:35.000These are things that have yet to be built out.
00:05:37.000But what this does for the first time is it directly links without any shadow of a doubt, Hillary Clinton's knowledge of the Alpha Bank story and then leaking it to the press.
00:05:51.000Now, we knew this just through circumstantial evidence, but until this, Hillary Clinton firmly denied it through all of her surrogates, Mark Elias and all the other people, even though there was a $10 million payment via Fusion GPS to go get this story created and distributed.
00:06:05.000Hillary Clinton was like, I knew nothing about this.
00:06:10.000She was constantly denying and creating space and trying to demand that she had distance from this story.
00:06:17.000The New York Post writes, Mook described the end of his conversation with Clinton as him telling her, quote, hey, we have this and we want to share it with a reporter.
00:06:27.000Mook also acknowledged the campaign hadn't verified the accuracy of the data at the time.
00:06:32.000Part of the point of giving it to a reporter was that they could run it down further.
00:06:36.000Now, this is probably a workshop, let's say, coordination.
00:06:40.000As it stands, Hillary Clinton and Robbie Mook are probably channeling via lawyers on how they're going to tell this story because they can't say they knew nothing about it.
00:06:50.000But basically, the narrative that has now been created via Robbie Mook's testimony in the Sussman trial with Durham doing the prosecution is, why don't we say we had it, but we didn't know how we got it and we didn't know how true it was.
00:07:07.000Now, the not knowing how we got it falls apart completely because they got it through their own opposition research, opposition research, the work of fiction, via the via, what was his name?
00:07:19.000Christopher Steele, the dossier created by Christopher Steele.
00:07:23.000So now Robbie Mook and Hillary Clinton, probably after many years now and many months of kind of wordsmithing and figuring it out, because Mook is still very loyal to Hillary Clinton, unless he said something he was supposed to say, which I don't think is true.
00:07:36.000But it's very clear that they've come up with their version of events.
00:07:41.000And their version of events is the following, that they paid $10 million or whatever the amount was, it was an extraordinary sum, to Fusion GPS, where Fusion GPS then hired Christopher Steele and came up with this fake dossier story.
00:07:55.000Then it goes back to the Hillary Clinton campaign for approval via Fusion GPS to the top levels of the campaign to Hillary Clinton, where then they sent it to the press.
00:08:05.000Now, where the prosecution will have to nail it down in a future trial, because there might be more looming indictments, is: wait a second.
00:08:13.000Did you contact anybody in the orbit of the FBI or Sussman to then bring that fake story to the Bureau, knowing it wasn't true?
00:08:26.000So the reason why they're trying to cover their tracks, and they're doing a pretty good job of it, if Durham wasn't motivated to continue this investigation, is this point, which where Robbie Mook wanted to say this, quote, we did not know the veracity of the story.
00:08:44.000Part of the point of giving it to a reporter so they could run it down further.
00:08:50.000Where they could get potentially in a lot of trouble is if there's communications or testimony that shows that Robbie Mook was working to get this in front of the FBI.
00:09:01.000Robbie Mook said, quote, a reporter could vet the information and then decide to print it.
00:09:06.000Mook testified that he was first told about the information purportedly showing a secret back channel between the Trump organization server and Russia Alpha Bank's Pie campaign, general counselor, counsel Mark Elias.
00:09:44.000So someone's lying because Mook, I think the data came from the money that you guys gave to Fusion GPS that resulted in this entire scheme.
00:09:54.000The campaign manager also discussed the matter with top aides, Podesta, Sullivan, and Jennifer Palmeri, apparently before going to Clinton.
00:10:02.000This stunning disclosure came during a cross-examination of Mook by a member of John Durham's team, federal court, and prompted from D.C. federal court and prompted Judge Christopher Cooper, I'm reading from the New York Post, by the way, to order the jury out of the courtroom so he could hold a sidebar discussion with both sides.
00:10:21.000Sussman is being charged with lying to the FBI and denying he was working on behalf of the campaign, even though there's a text message that shows he's working for the campaign.
00:10:31.000After the sidebar, Cooper announced that he might allow prosecutor Andrew DePhillips to introduce evidence from a tweet by Clinton in 16 showing that after left-wing slate website published a report about the Alpha Bank data, Clinton, quote, wrote, Computer scientists have apparently uncovered a covert server linking the Trump organization to a Russia-based bank.
00:10:56.000She also issued a statement from Sullivan, now president's national security advisor and member, Jake Sullivan, gets involved in this saying, quote, the secret hotline may be the key to unlocking the mystery of Trump's ties to Russia.
00:11:08.000So we have Hillary Clinton who casually gets brought into this by Robbie Mook.
00:11:19.000I do not think after all the prep and all the years of this, Robbie Mook might be just kind of accidentally saying something like, oh, yeah, by the way, look, Hillary Clinton, Robbie Mook doesn't want to be Jeffrey Epstein.
00:11:29.000Okay, he knows what happens in the Clinton orbit.
00:11:51.000And for what reason did they, for what reason did they do what they did, right?
00:11:57.000And so what we talked about on this program is that when the lower level people start to get involved, it's going to move up, hopefully, with future indictments.
00:12:06.000Now, either that or they're coordinating.
00:12:08.000I'm too cynical to believe, to be perfectly honest, that Hillary Clinton would allow Robbie Mook to go to the stand and not say anything that she did not have in connection.
00:12:17.000Now, this is a big revelation, but I'm going to play the tape here.
00:12:22.000Is it really that big of a revelation if what they say they can prove?
00:12:27.000So I don't want to get your hopes up too much, and I'll tell you why that, but why would that?
00:12:31.000Listen, let's listen to the news reports.
00:12:32.000Let's start with 102, and we'll go to 101, and I'm going to tell you how they are going to defend themselves, which might be actually pretty compelling unless we can get further evidence.
00:12:45.000There was a little bit of surprise in the courtroom when Robbie Mook, the 2016 Hillary Clinton campaign manager, just answered a question casually that she personally approved sending that story to the media.
00:12:58.000As you mentioned, it deals with an allegation or an accusation about the Trump organization, not the Trump campaign, but the Trump organization having a back channel to a Russian bank named Alphabank, which has some ties to the Kremlin, some Russian...
00:13:33.000Hillary Clinton had a campaign attorney named Michael Sussman.
00:13:36.000He is on trial right now behind me in federal court because in 2016, September 2016, he went to his friend who happened to be the general counsel at the FBI, a man named James Baker, and Sussman said, James, or Jim, rather, I have some information linking the Trump organization to a Russian-based bank via a back channel, via a computer server.
00:13:59.000James Baker took the information at the FBI.
00:14:27.000So the way that Hillary Clinton and her team is now going to respond to this is, well, look, we were presented with bad political information on an opponent.
00:14:37.000It's very normal to leak bad information on your opponents.
00:14:40.000It's not like we weren't in a contentious campaign.
00:14:47.000Now, what I haven't heard anyone mention, which is very glaring and I think it's very obvious, is did the asset transfer to Fusion GPS concoct and pay for this information?
00:14:56.000If so, then it's a completely different story.
00:14:58.000But in its current form, I could see a world where Robbie Mook is trying to say, well, yeah, Hillary was involved in just like making a reporter check it out.
00:15:05.000I mean, come on, we just told a reporter, go check it out.
00:15:12.000Now, I'm not saying that Hillary's innocent, of course not.
00:15:14.000I'm just trying to, I'm trying to play out why Robbie Mook would possibly say this in a courtroom.
00:15:22.000And the reason he would say this is like, well, we did nothing wrong.
00:15:26.000We found a story that might be compromising.
00:15:29.000We sent it to a journalist, and then we were kind of hands-off and we just kind of did our thing.
00:15:33.000And then once the story was written and they found out the information, well, then we tweeted about it and then it was in the public domain.
00:15:40.000And if you actually read the headline, it says, Clinton approved dissemination of Trump-Russia allegations to media.
00:15:48.000I mean, that's, of course, we've known that the whole time.
00:15:51.000Now, is it significant that now someone is verifying it and saying it out loud?
00:16:20.000Now, Robbie Mook might be trying to cover for Hillary, but what he did do, maybe intentionally or unintentionally, who knows, is open up a million other questions she has to answer.
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00:18:34.000If Elon Musk had announced that he was going to donate a billion dollars over the next decade to the Democrat Party, do you think that there would be a business insider piece against him?
00:18:48.000If Elon Musk came out and said that he was going to put all of his profits for transgender puberty blocker surgery, do you think that he would be attacked?
00:18:58.000If Elon Musk came out and said, I'm not going to buy Twitter, forget that, and said that instead he is going to try to invest money in diverse and black and LGBTQ creators, do you think that there would be a full court press against him?
00:19:24.000But I don't think Elon quite understands how malevolent and how nasty these people are.
00:19:33.000You see, Elon has been operating in a completely different game.
00:19:37.000Elon is used to opposition and he's used to a fight.
00:19:44.000But the fights that Elon has been in have been largely fair fights, but difficult fights.
00:19:50.000But they've been kind of how the world used to work.
00:19:53.000Can't make payroll, have to take out a second mortgage on your house, really leverage up, go raise outside money, bring Tesla back from the oblivion.
00:20:12.000They'll try to destroy you at every possible opening.
00:20:16.000We experience this all the time at Turning Point USA on this program.
00:20:20.000These people are nasty, they're motivated, and they will not fight fair.
00:20:25.000And I don't think Elon is going to play the victim, but I think Elon is processing this as, I've never really experienced anything like this.
00:20:32.000Now, Elon has tweeted that out, basically.
00:20:33.000If you can get Elon's tweet from the other day, where he says that all the recent attacks against me are evidence to show why I'm now voting Republican.
00:20:41.000So now that Elon has come out and he said that he's going to vote Republican, all of the forces against him are coming.
00:20:50.000Business Insider also came after Barstool, Dave Portnoy, after Dave Portnoy started to go on Tucker Carlson's program and bashing the woke stuff.
00:20:57.000And so as soon as you cross the Rubicon, you cross the bridge from being an obedient member of the left and you kind of make the cross, then they're going to deploy everything they possibly can against you.
00:21:11.000And look, the playbook is so predictable.
00:21:13.000They're going to try the Me Too thing against Elon Musk.
00:21:16.000They're going to try all the different regulatory stuff.
00:21:18.000They're going to try to say that he's a racist.
00:21:20.000They've already tried that and it's failed.
00:21:23.000And so Elon Musk tweeted, but he's calling the scandal against him Elongate.
00:21:34.000He said, quote, the attacks against me should be viewed through a political lens.
00:21:39.000This is their standard, despicable playbook, but nothing will deter me from fighting for a good future to your right to free speech.
00:21:46.000Now, I really appreciate that, and I do appreciate that he's saying that it won't deter me.
00:21:51.000And the way he's processing the information is correct.
00:21:54.000And I don't want to underestimate Elon, but I do want to say I don't think he's quite grasping the level of desperation and nastiness that they are going to go to.
00:22:06.000Maybe he's already gamed it out, but there is no fair rules.
00:22:10.000There are no fair rules at all whatsoever when you engage in a political fight.
00:23:02.000Elon has taken a, let's say, a steady dose of red pills.
00:23:07.000And he needs to channel that, I think, because he's now going in a pretty, I mean, this could be a tweet of Sean Hannity's.
00:23:19.000Quote, Elon Musk says, bet most people don't know that a Clinton campaign lawyer using campaign funds created an elaborate hoax about Trump and Russia makes you wonder what else is fake.
00:23:55.000I mean, he is dispensing red pills at every corner.
00:24:00.000He's saying that the media, he said a hoax.
00:24:06.000Five years ago, the only people calling this a hoax was Sean Hannity and many others, Tucker and other people.
00:24:17.000Elon Musk said in a response to a tweet, someone said, Where were all the wild accusations against Elon before he took a stand against the establishment?
00:24:24.000Elon said, quote, no, it was clear that their only goal is a hit piece to interfere with the Twitter acquisition.
00:24:29.000The story was written before they even talked to me.
00:24:46.000Is there something they can take from him?
00:24:49.000And this is why they're dealing with a different type of guy, right?
00:24:52.000So if you know anything about Elon Musk, he's eccentric.
00:24:56.000They make fun of him because he has Asperger's, which is a disgusting thing to do.
00:25:01.000Every person that I know that has Asperger's, they're some of the most wonderful, beautiful, and quite honestly, unbelievably brilliant people.
00:25:08.000The smartest person I know in the world, which I will not say on air, has Asperger's.
00:25:15.000Stays focused on one topic for a long period of time, which is a challenge that some people to Aspergers have, but he is just an awesome, unbelievably brilliant person with an IQ that is like double that of a regular person.
00:26:13.000And that's not how he measures success.
00:26:19.000Based on everything I've read and studied about Elon, and trust me, we just have to keep on repeating this because I get such nasty email about him sometimes.
00:26:42.000There was a meme on Twitter where basically it shows that Elon Musk is using SpaceX, Tesla, boring Neuralink Twitter to try to save humanity.
00:26:54.000His intentions may actually lead to something meaningful.
00:26:59.000Now, for some of you that are still cynical about Elon, why else would he be doing this?
00:27:04.000He is getting investigated by every regulatory agency.
00:27:07.000He's being attacked by every single media outlet imaginable.
00:27:10.000He's now calling the Trump-Russia thing a hoax and saying that the media concocted the whole thing.
00:27:18.000I'll be very honest, Elon, you could have sacked that one out.
00:27:20.000You don't have to weigh in on every story.
00:27:22.000I think it's great that you are, but that's one that's going to really animate the left.
00:27:27.000I could just see the front page of the New Yorker in two weeks.
00:29:14.000Do you think that the conservative movement or the freedom movement, do you think our chances of winning increase or decrease if we have Elon on our team?
00:29:26.000Do you think we are more likely to defeat the left and these woke activists and the woke pathogen, the woke virus, if we have Elon team or Elon's on our team or their team?
00:29:42.000Elon is a defector from the Borg and from the orthodoxy.
00:29:50.000And he is showing no signs of slowing down.
00:31:34.000I have pretty convinced, but I'm not going to go either way on that.
00:31:39.000But I do believe this idea of seemingly infinite outcomes for a particular situation actually at least gives you some promise and gives you some opportunity and some magic and mystery for how things might end up.
00:31:59.000And I think this Elon chapter is just one of the more exciting things that I've seen, not just because of world's richest man coming on team anti-woke and he's standing against it, but all the sub-kind of decisions that are made out of this, the reason you have despair, why would somebody have despair about America?
00:32:20.000Because you think the downfall is inevitable or certain.
00:32:24.000You despair when you think that, or you have anxiety when you have thoughts about the future that you think are irreversible or unchangeable.
00:32:36.000The minute I might tell you that there actually is more risk and flex in those joints, that there actually is more opportunity for maybe an inconclusive outcome or a revival or for people to act a certain way, all of a sudden your cynicism can turn to doubt.
00:33:31.000And I like that even better than mindset, because you can have wacky thoughts, you can have good thoughts, you can have bad thoughts, but an attitude transcends that.
00:33:40.000An attitude is a general disposition towards how you want things to go or how you want to conduct yourself.
00:33:47.000Is the attitude that you have towards the future of America, is it completely and totally pessimistic?
00:33:54.000And now, I'm not saying you have to be optimistic if you don't believe it.
00:33:58.000I'm not asking you to believe something that you don't believe, but I do think it is a moral necessity to have an attitude of the willingness that your actions matter and that things can change for the positive.
00:34:14.000What I'm asking is that I think America has so much political despair because of a lack of open-heartedness and mindedness that things might not actually end up being as bad as you think they will be.
00:34:58.000Obviously, we're all suffering under this garbage, more people suffering than others.
00:35:04.000But if we believe that there could be a potential seeded equivalent benefit and our attitude and our disposition is at least an open-mindedness that better days could be ahead, that is the first step towards actually improving the country.
00:35:19.000You just have to allow yourself, and I will say it does take a little bit of internal courage to think you might be wrong that America is going to smash into a million pieces.
00:35:31.000You could call it doomerism, that no matter what, you think things are just going to kind of collapse, no matter what, it's all going to go and just be worse than ever.
00:35:41.000You could be right, but don't be certain of that.
00:35:45.000The moment you are certain about that, you are less engaged, less active, less happy, less wise.
00:35:51.000My ask for you is just to have a little bit of the courage and a little bit of the willingness to believe that the outcome has not yet been determined of this nation, theologically separate issue.
00:36:03.000I think that can give you a lot of hope.
00:36:06.000That'll actually make you a happier warrior along the way.