The Charlie Kirk Show - Ask Charlie Anything 201: What Causes Crime? Are Police Racist? All in a Day's Work?

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00:01:11.000 I just wanted to talk to you about your 1350 stat.

00:01:16.000 In one of your clips, you said that black people make up 13% of the population, 50% of the crime. 1.00

00:01:21.000 That is just wrong.

00:01:23.000 No, it's actually higher than 50%, but yeah.

00:01:27.000 Okay, so I said crime.

00:01:29.000 That is just not true.

00:01:31.000 You're talking about murder, and you're going straight to murder?

00:01:34.000 Oh yeah, you're right. I should be way more specific.

00:01:36.000 Yeah, you should be specific. That blacks tend to kill more people than Hispanics, whites, and Asians combined. 1.00

00:01:41.000 You're totally right. So my question for you is, are black people inherently more violent than other races? 0.99

00:01:46.000 No, but it's on you. Why do black people kill so many people? 1.00

00:01:48.000 Because of segregation, because of redlining, because of all of... 1.00

00:01:55.000 Wait, wait, hold on. Wait, blacks are killing a lot of people because of segregation that ended 70 years ago? 0.99

00:01:59.000 That still happens today. 0.99

00:02:02.000 What segregation happens today?

00:02:04.000 Today? Okay. You're a fool!

00:02:06.000 No, no, guys, please be nice. 1.00

00:02:07.000 Okay, well, tell me what segregation happens today against black people.

00:02:10.000 Segregation, okay, yes. No, obviously not. 0.99

00:02:11.000 Segregation is not happening today. Segregation still affects black people today.

00:02:15.000 How? Because the...

00:02:20.000 Guys, be nice. Hold on.

00:02:23.000 I know. I got rushed up here, bro.

00:02:25.000 It's all good. You've got two things to do.

00:02:27.000 You've got to tell me how black people are still affected by segregation, and then tell me why that results in so many of them killing people. 0.98

00:02:32.000 Okay, thank you. Thank you. I appreciate that. 0.98

00:02:34.000 So, when segregation ended, when slavery ended, actually, black people were just forced wherever, wherever, right? 0.68

00:02:43.000 So they had nowhere to go. And then there was laws put in place to put them into prison.

00:02:51.000 It's okay. No, no. What's your name?

00:02:52.000 Guys, what's your name? Jackson.

00:02:54.000 Jackson. It takes a lot of courage to come up here.

00:02:56.000 Yeah. Let's just take a deep breath. Okay?

00:02:57.000 I'm not here to pick on you, and I appreciate it.

00:02:59.000 No, I need to get my thoughts together. No, no, it's okay. I knew I was...

00:03:01.000 I know this can be very intimidating getting a crowd like this, so just take a deep breath.

00:03:04.000 Let me make your argument.

00:03:06.000 I'm going to make your argument for you, and I'm going to tell you why I think it's wrong.

00:03:08.000 Okay? Okay, yeah. Is that fair?

00:03:10.000 Yeah, sure. Okay, so the argument that is being made that you want to make is that there's legacies of injustice.

00:03:16.000 And that those legacies impact one generation after the other.

00:03:19.000 And when those things get handed down, you have what is a system or a systemic issue that isn't just isolated in 2024.

00:03:27.000 So the argument that you're making is that what happened in 1954 does impact 2024 of decade after decade after decade.

00:03:35.000 Let me tell you my response to that.

00:03:36.000 Of course there is some truth to that.

00:03:38.000 However, every culture, every person in this audience can point to issues that families or generations prior had that were able to overcome.

00:03:48.000 So the question is, why is it that black America is one of the only populations, that and Native American populations, that have not been able to overcome such evil injustices? 0.98

00:03:59.000 Here's my perspective, and I want to hear what you have to say.

00:04:02.000 Is that the number one way to keep people out of poverty, lower the crime rate, and have a better society is whether or not you have a mom and a dad around.

00:04:10.000 Would we agree that's an ideal?

00:04:12.000 Yeah? Cool.

00:04:13.000 So what happened in 1964 is that 25% of black youth were raised by a single mom.

00:04:21.000 Today it's nearly 75%, about 70%.

00:04:24.000 So that means that one in four black kids will have a father around.

00:04:29.000 Only one in four. That's the number one issue happening in the country, and it's not because of systemic racism.

00:04:36.000 I'd like to hear what you have to say about that.

00:04:37.000 Okay, so I think I misjudged you at first.

00:04:42.000 When you brought up the 1350 stat, I had just assumed that it was inherently eugenics-based, kind of, you know?

00:04:50.000 And that's where Mike came from.

00:04:51.000 I think we are on the same page that we know what the problem is, and that's what I mean.

00:04:57.000 Thank you for saying that, because I think we actually have a lot more in common in this country than the media would ever believe.

00:05:02.000 Definitely, definitely. Right?

00:05:04.000 And, like, my point, what I was trying to say, is I don't think that we're doing enough to help these black communities catch up, where, as, like, they're underfunded, and they're not, and they're over-policed, and there's these factors that are contributing to, like you said, these single-parent households.

00:05:24.000 Yes. So we're not going to agree on this.

00:05:25.000 This is where we'll disagree, and that's okay.

00:05:27.000 I have more of a view of Thomas Sowell on this, where he believes it's far more about culture, values, and worldview than stuff and over-policing.

00:05:37.000 I believe there's not enough police in black neighborhoods.

00:05:39.000 You're going to disagree with that. 0.69

00:05:40.000 Let's not even get into it, okay?

00:05:42.000 But I think we can ask a question, and I want your opinion.

00:05:45.000 Why is it that the single motherhood rate in black America went from 25% to 75% over 50 years, where America did become less racist?

00:05:56.000 Like, why did it?

00:05:58.000 Yeah, so what caused black America to go from one of the strongest nuclear family communities in the country to now the weakest by far?

00:06:10.000 No, that's okay. No, that's great.

00:06:12.000 And again, it's hard to get up and have these conversations.

00:06:15.000 Here's my opinion. My opinion is that, yes, there was some social welfare that subsidized single motherhood, which means it's easier to get cash from the government if you say you are single than if you are married.

00:06:25.000 I think we can agree that's stupid. 0.99

00:06:26.000 That shouldn't happen, right? 1.00

00:06:28.000 But I would love your perspective on this.

00:06:30.000 Do you think in black culture, getting married and staying with one woman for your entire life is elevated and celebrated?

00:06:38.000 No. No, not at all.

00:06:40.000 I think that's the problem.

00:06:42.000 I think the problem stems from a lack of education.

00:06:46.000 I think these communities don't have...

00:06:49.000 I don't think a lot of them have the proper education or learning from previous to realize what will lead them to a more successful future.

00:06:59.000 I think that if we funded more education in these systems, then these men wouldn't be so focused on stuff like Like gang violence to get protection or money or other stuff like that and then end up in prison and then end up with their child having a single mother.

00:07:18.000 Fair enough. Sorry, I didn't argue.

00:07:21.000 No, no, it's great. So there's a lot of examples that there's some merit to your argument, but it's more about the quality of education than the amount of money we spend on it.

00:07:28.000 Yeah. Such as, that's why I'm a big proponent of school choice and educational vouchers and opposing the teacher unions.

00:07:34.000 But the core is this, is that the number one predictor for a kid of any skin color, black, white, Asian, Hispanic, is whether or not dad is around.

00:07:45.000 And I look, as an outsider, albeit, at current black culture, right, from the athletes to the rap music to the music, I don't see the nuclear family elevated.

00:07:56.000 Nor is it an internal black cultural expectation.

00:07:59.000 Now, I will ask some of the white individuals here in this audience, okay?

00:08:02.000 If you guys got pregnant and all of a sudden you didn't even know who the father was who was around, how would your parents react?

00:08:09.000 Not great, right? Yes?

00:08:11.000 Unfortunately, in black America, this is kind of accepted.

00:08:13.000 Would you agree? I can't say.

00:08:16.000 I grew up around a lot of white people, so I can't say.

00:08:19.000 But it is a fact that it is accepted, right?

00:08:22.000 So that's the problem.

00:08:23.000 The problem is that it's a cultural norm that has then turned into the cycle of poverty.

00:08:28.000 The cycle of poverty can break very quickly if fathers stayed with the women they impregnate.

00:08:33.000 But most of these fathers aren't just leaving.

00:08:36.000 A large majority of these fathers are ending up in prison.

00:08:40.000 Good point. Why do you go to prison?

00:08:43.000 Because you commit crime.

00:08:45.000 Because the prison system has been targeted against minorities.

00:08:51.000 Again, we're not going to agree here. That's okay.

00:08:53.000 There's actually under-enforcement of the laws.

00:08:56.000 For example, only half of murders in Chicago get solved. 0.67

00:09:00.000 Right, but are they all black people, though? 0.97

00:09:03.000 Almost all of them, yeah. If they're not solved, how do we know that they're black people? 1.00

00:09:07.000 Well, because it's a black victim in a black neighborhood by a black gang. 0.95

00:09:10.000 So it's like you can assume at a great approximation that in the west side of Chicago... 0.97

00:09:15.000 So 50% of the murders in Chicago that go unsolved are all black people?

00:09:18.000 Not all. No, I said 85%.

00:09:19.000 But we don't know who the perp is. 0.97

00:09:21.000 But again, if you have a black victim at 2 a.m. 0.99

00:09:24.000 in a black neighborhood... It's reasonable to say that it was a black-on-black crime. 1.00

00:09:28.000 90% of murders after 2am in Chicago are black-on-black crimes. 0.81

00:09:31.000 I'm from Chicago, I happen to know it. But half of all murders in Chicago are unsolved, which means half of all murderers are walking free.

00:09:38.000 So we have an under-enforcement of laws.

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00:10:47.000 You know that there's over 600,000 rape kits in this country that have not even been opened or tested, which means that there are women who say that they've been raped, and their kits are not even put in the system.

00:10:58.000 There are probably hundreds of thousands of rapists that walk free in this country.

00:11:01.000 Yeah, no, our system is... No, no, what I'm saying is that's an under-enforcement of laws, though.

00:11:05.000 Yeah, because our system is terrible.

00:11:06.000 No, no, I know, but you said we have an over-enforcement.

00:11:08.000 I don't think we have enough people in jail.

00:11:10.000 You don't think we have enough people?

00:11:11.000 No, like I said, half of all murderers walk free.

00:11:13.000 We don't even know who they are. Okay, but I... Okay, and I... Sure, whatever.

00:11:18.000 But I'm talking... I don't think that, like, black... 1.00

00:11:21.000 Like, I don't think that black people are as... 0.99

00:11:24.000 Like, half...

00:11:26.000 More than 50% of exonerations from prison are black people. 0.64

00:11:29.000 Like, a black person is more likely than any other race to be tried for a crime that they did not commit and then to be released from prison for a crime that they did not commit. 0.99

00:11:38.000 That's not totally true.

00:11:39.000 Let's pretend that it is. It's because they're in front of the justice system more because of the high crime.

00:11:44.000 But let's try to find some agreement.

00:11:45.000 I'm talking percentages.

00:11:47.000 Percentages of exonerations.

00:11:49.000 No, it's because they're in the system more, though.

00:11:51.000 It's because you have more cases.

00:11:53.000 But anyway, let's pretend that's true.

00:11:54.000 Let's pretend the system's totally racist.

00:11:56.000 Actually, there's more white people in the system because white people make up like what? 0.63

00:11:59.000 No, no, for sure. So you're just incorrect there.

00:12:02.000 Like you're doing to me. But they don't commit as many crimes.

00:12:04.000 Okay, so let's be cordial.

00:12:06.000 You're not being, so let's calm down a little bit.

00:12:08.000 You're not being. Am I being sweet to this guy?

00:12:13.000 Okay. Alright, let me ask you one question in closing, though.

00:12:17.000 If you could, okay, if you could say to Black America, here is more money, more stuff, more housing, or more fathers, which one would you choose?

00:12:29.000 More funding. I don't think...

00:12:31.000 Because fathers, I think that you need to solve the problem from the bottom. 0.98

00:12:36.000 I don't think you can just plant a bunch of fathers in and they're going to stay there.

00:12:38.000 Like you said, they're just going to...

00:12:40.000 Like in the culture, it's already...

00:12:41.000 It's not part of the culture, so they would just leave.

00:12:44.000 It's a hypothetical, meaning if the fathers were to stay...

00:12:46.000 Were to stay? Yeah. Okay, yeah, sure.

00:12:48.000 I just knew for 100% fact that they were going to stay here.

00:12:51.000 No, no, we have agreement. So during the BLM stuff four years ago, did we hear anything from the national BLM leaders or anybody about black dads staying around with women they impregnate? 0.85

00:13:02.000 Did anyone mention that?

00:13:03.000 No. Why?

00:13:06.000 They're actually, it's the fundamental issue.

00:13:08.000 The fundamental issue is if you have a father around, less likely to commit crimes.

00:13:13.000 More likely to graduate high school, more likely to get a job, less likely to be in poverty.

00:13:16.000 But how do we get there? Like, this is what I was like, how do we get there?

00:13:18.000 Well, the first of which is you must raise the standard of expectation, both internally and externally in the black community, that we're not going to put up with men, because we're both men, fleeing the women that they impregnate. 0.99

00:13:30.000 That we will say to men that flee the women that they impregnate, you're a loser, we're not going to tolerate you, we're not going to be friends with you, that you're the scum of the earth, that if you impregnate a woman and you just run away from them. 0.99

00:13:41.000 Most definitely. Do we do that right now? 0.99

00:13:44.000 I don't think all men do.

00:13:46.000 I think this is very common.

00:13:49.000 What's the word? I think this is very common in just masculine culture in general is that men won't do that too. 0.55

00:13:55.000 I actually think it's the opposite of masculine culture too.

00:13:58.000 I think it's not feminine.

00:14:00.000 It's something else. Just fleeing from the difficult.

00:14:02.000 But I'm saying in male circles, I feel like that is something that Males would praise.

00:14:08.000 Or at least around my age range.

00:14:10.000 That's something that happens. So then I think we need to demand better.

00:14:13.000 Thank you for coming up to the mic. I know it's not easy.

00:14:15.000 And God bless you. Thank you so much.

00:14:17.000 Have a good day, sir. When I graduated from this university in 2016, I was a raging liberal.

00:14:25.000 Since then, I've gone through the three conservatizing events.

00:14:27.000 I've bought a house, had a family, had kids.

00:14:31.000 And for one, I realized that my degree was sort of a scam.

00:14:33.000 I got fired from my job in marketing for my beliefs.

00:14:36.000 And now as my kids enter the school system, I decided I want to jump in and fight fire with fire.

00:14:41.000 I start with Washer County School District, taking the pay cut to become a teacher next semester.

00:14:47.000 Do you have any advice on how I can uphold my values that my family and I have while still maintaining my job and that?

00:14:55.000 It's hard to do both. It's hard to hold your values and also maintain your job.

00:15:00.000 And so the ideal is find a job that shares your values.

00:15:04.000 And I know that's easier said than done.

00:15:06.000 But we need to have people, and I know I'm just saying this as an aside, that value truth and courage more than just career expediency.

00:15:14.000 And I know that's difficult, but that's the best piece of advice I have.

00:15:17.000 Awesome. Thank you, sir. God bless anyone. Great.

00:15:19.000 Thanks. Yes. Hey, how's it going?

00:15:24.000 I'm Andrew. So, I wanted to talk with you about, again, the 1350.

00:15:29.000 So, earlier I did chime in when you were talking with Jackson.

00:15:34.000 You said, 2020, with the George Floyd protests, that nobody was talking about the nuclear family, which I think that they're separate issues.

00:15:47.000 Okay, but that's fine.

00:15:48.000 But can you first acknowledge that no one was talking about the nuclear family?

00:15:52.000 Yeah, 100%. Okay, great.

00:15:54.000 Why do you think that no one ever talks about the nuclear family at all publicly?

00:16:00.000 Maybe a lack of importance.

00:16:03.000 I mean, obviously, it's very important that...

00:16:07.000 You know, you have a father and a mother growing up.

00:16:09.000 That's very crucial to childhood.

00:16:11.000 We agree. Yes. But to get to my point, in 2020 with the George Floyd protests...

00:16:18.000 Riots. Riots or protests.

00:16:22.000 Depends. Were they riots or protests?

00:16:24.000 All right.

00:16:27.000 Well, we disagree on that, but...

00:16:29.000 To get to my point...

00:16:31.000 Sure. To get to my point...

00:16:33.000 Were they mostly peaceful?

00:16:35.000 No. I believe so, yes.

00:16:40.000 Please let Andrew talk.

00:16:41.000 Let Andrew talk. It takes a lot of courage to come up.

00:16:43.000 I'm gonna defend you. Please continue.

00:16:44.000 No, it's okay. People can disagree, but I'd just like to get my point off.

00:16:48.000 So, I think police brutality and the nuclear family are two separate issues, okay?

00:16:54.000 So, I think that there's over-policing in black neighborhoods.

00:16:57.000 Would you agree? Not even close.

00:16:59.000 Under policing, actually. And don't take my word for it.

00:17:02.000 Again, like half of all murders in Chicago aren't even solved.

00:17:05.000 That's bad, right? Okay, but that's Chicago.

00:17:08.000 Okay. Well, but again, about only 60% in Baltimore are solved.

00:17:13.000 It's across the country. But Chicago is America's third largest city, New York, LA, Chicago.

00:17:17.000 Let's just pause right here.

00:17:19.000 In order to solve murders, you need detectives, which are police officers.

00:17:23.000 So we should agree that if you commit a murder, we should find out who it is, right?

00:17:26.000 Yeah. Okay. So half of all murders are not solved.

00:17:29.000 You can fact check me on this. Chicago, murder, solve rate, 50%.

00:17:32.000 You guys can all fact check me on this.

00:17:34.000 So should we need more police then?

00:17:36.000 I never said I disagree about defunding the police.

00:17:40.000 No, no, no. But you said over-policed.

00:17:42.000 I don't think we have enough. So show me an example.

00:17:44.000 Show me a city where we have too many police.

00:17:46.000 And be specific. Well, I can't come up with any specific examples.

00:17:50.000 Well, but you said that we're over-policed.

00:17:52.000 You've got to give me some specifics.

00:17:53.000 It can't be an abstraction. You've got to tell me the city in America that is over-policed because I'd be interested to know about that city.

00:17:59.000 Well, like I said, I don't have any specific examples.

00:18:02.000 Because it doesn't exist, though.

00:18:04.000 I'm going to pivot really quick, if that's okay.

00:18:05.000 Before you pivot, I just want to teach you something, Andrew.

00:18:08.000 It's easy to say that you're over-policed.

00:18:10.000 You've got to back up the data.

00:18:12.000 There's no incident in the country of any city that's over-policed.

00:18:15.000 It does not exist. We have a police staffing shortage in this country.

00:18:19.000 We don't have enough police.

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00:19:21.000 Really to get back to my point, I think police brutality and the culture, black culture, is two separate things. 1.00

00:19:28.000 I think police officers kneeling on someone's neck for nine minutes is a completely separate incident.

00:19:34.000 What was George Floyd's cause of death?

00:19:37.000 Asphyxiation. Actually, the original medical report by the Hennepin County Examiner said that it was a drug overdose.

00:19:42.000 Did you know that? But that was hired by the state.

00:19:44.000 An independent coroner reported that it was asphyxiation.

00:19:48.000 It's interesting. You might be right, but if you guys love truth, you should go and dive into the Derek Chauvin court documents.

00:19:54.000 There's a lot more to the George Floyd situation than anyone ever told you.

00:19:58.000 It really is. And it's a great video.

00:20:01.000 And I'm not even... You might be right.

00:20:03.000 But there's so much more to that circumstance of George Floyd that was overdosing on drugs, right?

00:20:10.000 That also, did you know that what Derek Chauvin did to George Floyd was actually in the police manual training?

00:20:14.000 It was completely justified and was trained by his superiors to do.

00:20:18.000 Now, let me ask you a question.

00:20:20.000 How many unarmed black people, on average, are killed by police a year?

00:20:25.000 Well, I'd have to look up that statistic.

00:20:27.000 Guess. Probably...

00:20:31.000 Over 50%. It's 15 people a year.

00:20:36.000 15. And that's not my number.

00:20:39.000 That's the Washington Post that came up with it and did a national crime survey.

00:20:44.000 And they even were generous and they said unarmed, meaning you had a weapon nearby or you had a knife that you dropped.

00:20:49.000 So you're talking about police brutality for an incident that happens 15 times a year in a country of 350 million people.

00:20:58.000 Well, My question to you then, how come you see it so often on social media?

00:21:08.000 That's a good question, Andrew, because you're being propagandized.

00:21:11.000 You're being brainwashed at the name of this tour.

00:21:14.000 And I'm here to tell you that you actually don't see it as often as you think.

00:21:19.000 This is emotional, targeted videoing.

00:21:22.000 To have you think that something exists when it doesn't, we look at the data like, oh, it's 15 times a year.

00:21:27.000 15 times a year, and it's even lower than that.

00:21:29.000 But do you know what does happen a lot every single year?

00:21:32.000 Is that there's over 100,000 drug overdoses every single year.

00:21:35.000 We don't talk about that. We should.

00:21:37.000 I totally agree, right?

00:21:39.000 But yet we have this whole thing about police brutality, and no one can ever give me examples where there's too many police, and that's okay, I'm not just picking on you.

00:21:45.000 Just in general, it's easy to get caught up in the abstractions.

00:21:49.000 It's easy to get caught up in the parade and in all the bedlam.

00:21:52.000 But when you dive into it, you realize that it's all brainwashing, and it's propaganda.

00:21:57.000 I guess what I would say in response to that is...

00:22:00.000 When you do your own independent research, you can find data to skew in any direction you want it to.

00:22:06.000 But it's the Washington Post. I'm not just making this stuff up.

00:22:09.000 I'm using left-wing sources here.

00:22:11.000 This is not Breitbart.com or Gateway Pundit or the Charlie Kirk Show or Daily Wire, right?

00:22:16.000 This is the left-wing sources.

00:22:19.000 And I'm not cherry-picking because you said police brutality.

00:22:22.000 So then I then pinpoint, okay, how many black people are then killed unarmed by police every year?

00:22:28.000 Boom. That's the number. In a population, by the way, where there's tens of millions of black Americans, it's an insignificant sum. 0.68

00:22:35.000 And you know that more kids are killed in urban violence going to school or walking to the playground than blacks are killed by police?

00:22:43.000 We don't talk about that as much.

00:22:45.000 The question then is why.

00:22:46.000 This is my belief. Black America is so abused by the current mainstream media, it's abused by the Democrat Party, and they don't want...

00:22:54.000 Black Americans to think freely or independently that they have been used as pawns by the Democrat Party for the last 60 years.

00:23:02.000 That's exactly what is happening right now, and I pray people are starting to wake up.

00:23:09.000 A final thought, Andrew? I guess I don't really have anything.

00:23:14.000 That's okay. I encourage you to do this.

00:23:15.000 Fact check me later. Find out what the unsolved murder rate is in Chicago.

00:23:19.000 See if Charlie Cook was right. Look at the Washington Post crime database and find out was it really 15 unarmed blacks that were killed by police year by year. 0.99

00:23:26.000 Sometimes as low as 8, sometimes as 20, so the average is about 15, okay?

00:23:29.000 Go and look at The Biggest Lie Ever Told, the George Floyd documentary.

00:23:33.000 Go look at the original Hennepin County medical.

00:23:34.000 Don't just take my word for it.

00:23:36.000 Do that research. And in that research, if you're like, oh, dang, I was lied, use that as what we call taking the red pill.

00:23:44.000 And you'll see how deep this rabbit hole goes.

00:23:47.000 Thank you. Appreciate it.

00:23:49.000 Can I shake your hand? Yeah, God bless, man.

00:23:51.000 Thank you. Thank you, Andrew. Give it up for Andrew.

00:23:53.000 That's not easy to do. Oh, is it the libertarian?

00:24:00.000 Oh, my goodness. Okay. Introduce yourself.

00:24:03.000 My name is Colby Silvestri.

00:24:04.000 I'm a proud member of the Libertarian Party.

00:24:06.000 I'm glad to see you here.

00:24:07.000 So you're working on behalf of Kamala Harris here, but yeah.

00:24:10.000 Not sure how that works, but I think we disagree mostly on things of degree, like dismantling the administrative state and destroying regulations.

00:24:18.000 You talk about tariffs and how they protect the American's consumer, but wouldn't widespread deregulation between our industries help that more?

00:24:26.000 Well, no. So I just want to be clear.

00:24:28.000 Are you actively trying to get Libertarians elected in Nevada?

00:24:32.000 No. Okay, good. All right, then fair enough.

00:24:34.000 Then I shouldn't ridicule you.

00:24:36.000 No, I just think it's so insane to try to get libertarians elected.

00:24:39.000 A little bit of a waste of time.

00:24:41.000 Totally agree, yes. So let me tell you what I'm libertarian on, and then I'll tell you what I'm not libertarian on, and then we can find out where we disagree.

00:24:49.000 Is that cool? I'm very libertarian on guns.

00:24:51.000 I think that people have a God-given and able right to own weapons, and that the Second Amendment shall not be infringed, and that without the Second Amendment, you do not have a First Amendment, a Third Amendment, a Fourth Amendment, and the Second Amendment is God-given.

00:25:01.000 We agree on that, right? I believe that the government should be severely restrained in its spying, its capacity to be able to monitor our private communications.

00:25:10.000 I think you should get a warrant before that you ever are able to spy in communications, and I think the FISA statute should be completely repealed.

00:25:16.000 And I think it's abused by politicians too much.

00:25:18.000 Finally, I think we largely agree on war. 0.98

00:25:20.000 I think the Iraq war was a mistake. 0.99

00:25:22.000 The Afghanistan war was a mistake. 0.98

00:25:23.000 I think us sending money to Ukraine is a total mistake.

00:25:26.000 And I think that this experiment in the American empire has been terrible and awful.

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00:26:36.000 Let me tell you what I'm not libertarian on, okay?

00:26:38.000 I'm not libertarian on immigration.

00:26:40.000 I do not think that we should have open borders and invite the people of every country around the world to come here while our own citizens are suffering and not able to get ahead as much as their parents, right?

00:26:51.000 So that's where I'm not libertarian.

00:26:53.000 Secondly, and then I'll let you respond, I'm not libertarian on drug legalization.

00:26:57.000 I think that our moving towards drug legalization that starts with marijuana and eventually cocaine and then psychedelics and then heroin has been very bad for society.

00:27:06.000 It increases crime. I do not like this idea that you drive every corner and there's marijuana clinics in every corner.

00:27:12.000 I don't think that it has improved the well-being or the soul of this nation.

00:27:16.000 So on those two things, I'm not libertarian.

00:27:18.000 Please respond. Do drugs cause crime or does the drug war cause crime?

00:27:22.000 Well, people cause crime, but you also must understand what you do from a policy perspective.

00:27:28.000 Just using prudence and not abstractions, is what I am doing improving the livelihood of my people, or is it hurting the livelihood of my people?

00:27:35.000 And I could be honest, I don't know, maybe you guys disagree, but since the legalization of weed in a lot of Western states, I do not think it's increased the quality of life out West.

00:27:42.000 You could disagree, though. Maybe not for the people in jail who are incarcerated for nonviolent drug possession crimes.

00:27:48.000 I think that's a good argument. Those are actually two different things, though.

00:27:52.000 Decriminalizing something in the sense of how you enforce it, I can agree with, but then legalizing it so that a 19-year-old can go get a bunch of weed on the street corner.

00:28:01.000 We were told a couple things when it came to the drug war.

00:28:03.000 We were told that usage rates would go down.

00:28:06.000 We were told that the cartel would get super poor and that it would bankrupt the cartel.

00:28:11.000 And we were told that it would not increase crime in the areas.

00:28:13.000 None of those three things actually happened.

00:28:15.000 We didn't end the drug war. We never ended the drug war.

00:28:17.000 It's still going on right now.

00:28:18.000 No, I know. So is it your perspective to decriminalize all drugs?

00:28:21.000 Yes. Okay. Including heroin?

00:28:23.000 Absolutely. Okay, got it.

00:28:25.000 So do you think San Francisco is a good example of drug policy?

00:28:31.000 No. No.

00:28:32.000 But all drugs are legal in San Francisco.

00:28:35.000 I don't know if that's the case.

00:28:37.000 No, it is. Literally, you and I could get in a car right now, and you and I can get morphine, we can get heroin or fentanyl on the side of the street and shoot up together and watch the sunset over the Golden Gate Bridge.

00:28:49.000 With the cops. With the cops.

00:28:51.000 What? Just like right next to us, just hanging out.

00:28:53.000 No, not only that, the state gives you the drugs.

00:28:56.000 And the needles. And the needles. 0.96

00:28:58.000 Did you know that? No. No.

00:29:00.000 That's libertarianism at play, though, my friend.

00:29:03.000 So San Francisco has embraced libertarianism.

00:29:06.000 The government does not have any responsibility to distribute drugs.

00:29:09.000 Fair enough. Fine. But it's an extreme.

00:29:11.000 They distribute drugs in San Francisco.

00:29:13.000 In Portland, they don't enforce any drug laws.

00:29:16.000 Now, I think you guys can all agree.

00:29:17.000 The dirtiness and the lack of safety in San Francisco, Portland, Seattle should be a cautionary tale that maybe widespread drug legalization is a really, really bad idea.

00:29:27.000 Do you guys agree? Yeah.

00:29:30.000 What is your response to that? I don't have any response to that because I don't have the data on hand.

00:29:34.000 Fair enough. But this is not a data argument, though.

00:29:36.000 Just take a road trip. I want you to drive through San Francisco, Portland, and Seattle any time in the next couple of years.

00:29:41.000 I want you to think about this conversation and ask yourself, is this the best we can do as a country?

00:29:47.000 And is what we are doing working?

00:29:49.000 Here's my perspective. We're the wealthiest country ever where the young ladies in this audience probably don't feel safe walking the streets of San Francisco at night. 1.00

00:29:56.000 Nor should you, right?

00:29:58.000 No! Not even here, yeah.

00:30:01.000 And by the way, what a moral failure that you can't walk your own cities at night.

00:30:06.000 People say, Charlie, what are your politics?

00:30:07.000 How about this? I want to be able to walk every major American city at night and enjoy it like my parents did.

00:30:12.000 And not have to worry about being raped, mugged, or shut down.

00:30:14.000 And like, whatever it takes to get that done, let's do that thing.

00:30:20.000 I think a partial solution to that is just more guns.

00:30:24.000 I mean, in California, it wasn't illegal to own a gun.

00:30:27.000 I do agree with that, sort of, but I think at some point, if people are showing a pattern of crime, they shouldn't be on the street.

00:30:36.000 Right? So if they're dealing drugs and smashing windows and they're holding up, you know, whatever, 7-Elevens, you should be in jail for a long time for those things.

00:30:45.000 And what San Francisco, Portland, and Seattle have done is that they've decriminalized, they have no cash bail, they decriminalized it, and they basically, you could get out the same day you commit a crime.

00:30:54.000 And again, I just think that this is not even political, but I guess the Republican Party is now the ambassador of this.

00:30:59.000 It's so simple that if you don't feel safe in your own great cities, your leaders have failed you and they should all be fired.

00:31:06.000 Thank you. One more thought?

00:31:08.000 One more thought about tariffs.

00:31:10.000 I want to go back to my original question. I'm very much in favor of tariffs, yeah.

00:31:13.000 The costs are ultimately passed down to the consumer.

00:31:16.000 Not always. That's interesting.

00:31:17.000 So why are pickup trucks so much cheaper in America than they are in Europe?

00:31:22.000 No idea. Because they're made here.

00:31:23.000 You know that we heavily tariff pickup trucks more than any other car coming into the country?

00:31:27.000 So how do you avoid a tariff?

00:31:30.000 Make it here. So what tariffs do is they're forcing functions for overseas companies to build factories here.

00:31:35.000 See, you're only looking at tariffs through a one-dimensional DC chamber commerce lens.

00:31:39.000 The way that you tell a company, oh, avoid the tariff, build the factory in Nevada.

00:31:43.000 And so, for example, you guys probably, any parents own a Toyota pickup truck?

00:31:48.000 Anybody? They're actually pretty good, yeah?

00:31:49.000 Look at, there's a couple hands. Toyota builds all their pickup trucks here, and they avoid the 25% tariff.

00:31:54.000 So it's not a tax.

00:31:55.000 It actually incentivizes homeland production and more jobs for our country and actually the price doesn't get passed on to the consumer.

00:32:03.000 I think, hands down, deregulation upon our American companies.

00:32:07.000 I tend to agree with that, but I also want to live in the real world, not fantasy world.

00:32:12.000 And I think that also, fundamentally, you have a social contract to your people that, for example, if we have critical vitamin needs in this country, most of our drugs are made in China.

00:32:20.000 That's bad, okay? We don't have to overthink it.

00:32:22.000 You don't need a chart, you don't need a graph.

00:32:23.000 Bad that we don't make our own drugs, okay?

00:32:26.000 That 90% of all vitamin C is made in China.

00:32:29.000 You need vitamin C to live, literally.

00:32:30.000 It's ascorbic acid.

00:32:32.000 Make it here. So, anyway, we could agree to disagree on that.

00:32:34.000 I think tariffs are great forcing functions, especially if you're a wealthy country.

00:32:37.000 Tariffs are really good if you're wealthy and the incumbent power.

00:32:40.000 Okay. God bless you.

00:32:42.000 Are you voting for Trump? No.

00:32:44.000 Who are you voting for? Chase Oliver?

00:32:46.000 Yeah. But why?

00:32:49.000 He's the best candidate on the field, for sure.

00:32:52.000 So you're going to vote for someone who can't win?

00:32:55.000 Yes, because my vote doesn't matter anyways.

00:32:58.000 But if your vote doesn't matter, why vote at all?

00:33:01.000 It's going to matter more if I vote for the candidate with the least amount of votes.

00:33:04.000 It's proportionally larger.

00:33:05.000 If our candidate hits the 5% threshold, that's kind of the goal.

00:33:09.000 Why? Matching federal funds from the U.S. government, which will make our party wealthier and be more competitive.

00:33:18.000 So let me just be clear. So do you think that there's, from the values you care about, which is liberty, yeah, and make sure you talk in the mic, is there no material difference to your life between Trump and Kamala?

00:33:29.000 Oh yeah, Trump way better than Kamala.

00:33:31.000 Yeah, Kamala is pure evil. 1.00

00:33:33.000 Kamala Harris is pure evil. 1.00

00:33:35.000 But you're in a battleground state.

00:33:37.000 You can go do your 5% thing a different time.

00:33:40.000 Isn't it probably worth against being drafted to World War III, just suck it up, put on the MAGA hat and vote for Trump?

00:33:49.000 You'll think about it. You'll think about it.

00:33:51.000 Yeah, I'll think about it.

00:33:53.000 I'll think about it. Thank you.

00:33:55.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:33:57.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - October 14, 2024

Ask Charlie Anything 201: What Causes Crime? Are Police Racist? All in a Day's Work?

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