The Charlie Kirk Show - California Burns While Its Leaders Vanish

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, California is burning.

00:00:01.000 I know several friends that have lost their entire homes.

00:00:04.000 It's terrible what's happening in Southern California.

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00:01:43.000 On diversity, equity, inclusion, LGBTQ pet projects, and you are captured by environmentalists, we have been warning for years that you are worried about abstractions, but you can't do the basic stuff.

00:01:56.000 You can't do the basic necessities of government.

00:01:59.000 Like have a fire hydrant that works during a fire.

00:02:03.000 Like being able to clean up the brush to make sure that fires do not consume your entire city.

00:02:10.000 What is happening right now...

00:02:12.000 In California is apocalyptic.

00:02:15.000 I now know of six people, personally, not like one-off, six people personally, of homes I have visited that are now gone.

00:02:24.000 That are just gone.

00:02:26.000 Gone.

00:02:26.000 One of our team members, who many of you know, Stacey, her house is just gone.

00:02:32.000 Got her family out.

00:02:34.000 Praise God.

00:02:34.000 I think they had to leave a pet behind.

00:02:37.000 Just terrible.

00:02:37.000 Gone.

00:02:38.000 Another one of our great donors, who we actually have the interior of one of our buildings named after, her entire house is gone.

00:02:46.000 Gone.

00:02:47.000 Another one of our friends in the Palisades, whole house is gone.

00:02:53.000 This is some of the worst fires we've ever seen.

00:02:56.000 And joining us now is Peachy Keenan, native Los Angeles resident, author of Domestic Extremist, and also is in the midst of where a lot of these fires are happening.

00:03:06.000 Peachy welcomes the program.

00:03:07.000 What is the latest on the ground?

00:03:09.000 Hey, Charlie, how are you?

00:03:10.000 This is so crazy because I grew up in the Palisades Village and the Palisades Riviera, and now I live in the Pasadena and Altadena area.

00:03:19.000 So I'm being hit.

00:03:21.000 Everyone I know right now is basically under evacuation.

00:03:25.000 Two of my husband's cousins in the Palisades Village, their houses, their homes are burned to the ground.

00:03:29.000 Their children's schools burned to the ground.

00:03:31.000 Pali High School is gone.

00:03:34.000 Flatstones, all these iconic restaurants in the Palisades I grew up going to, gone.

00:03:40.000 The Real Inn, my mother, you know, I grew up in the Palisades.

00:03:42.000 My mother lived in Malibu.

00:03:43.000 Those neighborhoods are now destroyed.

00:03:45.000 And here I am now, really, on the border of Pasadena and Altadena.

00:03:50.000 My house is still standing.

00:03:51.000 We're okay, thank God.

00:03:53.000 Unfortunately, we have many, several friends now whose homes they just found out this morning are gone here in Altadena.

00:03:59.000 These are, this is, and this is not where celebrities live.

00:04:02.000 This is not millionaires.

00:04:03.000 These are like, Families have been here for 30, 40 years.

00:04:06.000 My son, who's here, he's a student at Hillsdale.

00:04:12.000 He is home for Christmas break, and I'm glad he was, because he was helping carry all of our things to our car last night.

00:04:17.000 We got our little kids out.

00:04:19.000 And here's the sad thing, is that the kind of local hardware store, which is like a famous many-year-run family business, Altina Hardware.

00:04:27.000 We found out this morning that that burned to the ground.

00:04:30.000 And both of my sons have worked there.

00:04:31.000 And my son was working there last night selling, you know, emergency supplies to people.

00:04:35.000 And now that's gone.

00:04:37.000 So this is just traumatic.

00:04:38.000 I just walked up two blocks.

00:04:40.000 You can see behind me, this whole neighborhood here above New York Avenue, which is like a main east-west thoroughfare, dividing Altadena and Pasadena, is completely engulfed.

00:04:49.000 I was standing in front of homes that were just burnt just to the ground, to the foundation.

00:04:53.000 And it's just absolutely apocalyptic is the right word.

00:04:57.000 Peachy, I don't want to overly politicize this, but honestly, we have to because it's one party rule.

00:05:01.000 The state government is controlled by Democrats.

00:05:03.000 The county government is controlled by Democrats.

00:05:04.000 The city government is controlled by Democrats.

00:05:06.000 They are unprepared.

00:05:08.000 They didn't listen to our warnings.

00:05:10.000 For years, we've been telling these people, you guys, there's going to be a major fire breakout and the environmentalists are preventing brush cleanup and that they're spending money on sending, you know, let's just say charter flights to Ghana, which is literally, I just got right here.

00:05:25.000 I think the mayor just took a charter flight to Ghana.

00:05:27.000 The mayor of Los Angeles is in Ghana right now.

00:05:31.000 Not an exaggeration.

00:05:32.000 And took a charter flight to Ghana.

00:05:35.000 They sent their extra firefighting supplies to Ukraine.

00:05:42.000 Peachy, explain to us the political dynamics here.

00:05:47.000 Yeah, apparently Mayor Karen Bass defunded the fire of the LAFD by something like...

00:05:53.000 $20 million or something.

00:05:56.000 You know, we can't even get the homeless junkies, which are literally in Pasadena now, we can't get them to come clean up the tents to get these people out of there.

00:06:03.000 And every year, it's always the homeless camps in these mountains behind me and in the Santa Monica Mountains.

00:06:09.000 They're the ones who start the fire.

00:06:11.000 I don't know if you remember three or four years ago, Bel Air burned down, where the 405 comes through by the Getty Center.

00:06:16.000 That almost burned down because of a homeless encampment right there in that valley.

00:06:22.000 And so it's just these stupid policies.

00:06:25.000 They don't clear the brush.

00:06:28.000 Having no water in Pacific Palisades, which is one of the most expensive zip codes in the world, is actually like, that's criminal.

00:06:37.000 That's attempted murder, to be frank.

00:06:39.000 I mean, is it true that they were trying to get water out of the fire hydrants and there was no water?

00:06:46.000 How does that even happen?

00:06:47.000 Yeah, that's what Rick Caruso said.

00:06:49.000 He lives in Brentwood, which I think his daughter in the Palisades lost her home.

00:06:53.000 You know, he's the one who ran for mayor in L.A. And he was ahead on election night, I don't know if you recall, a couple years ago.

00:06:59.000 And then miraculously, lo and behold, at one in the morning, Karen Bass squeaked in a victory ahead of him.

00:07:06.000 Oh, I wonder how that happened.

00:07:08.000 And so he's really the only guy talking sense here.

00:07:10.000 Yeah, and he said last night that there was no water in the fire hydrants.

00:07:14.000 Civic Palisades, you know, entry-level, starting home in the Palisades, probably, you know, $3-4 million.

00:07:19.000 So, you know, you expect, like, what do we pay our property taxes to?

00:07:22.000 We can't go to the schools here.

00:07:24.000 The fire departments don't have water.

00:07:26.000 Like, what exactly are we paying for?

00:07:30.000 It's really hard to justify even paying one more dollar a property tax.

00:07:34.000 I just, let's play Cut 65, please.

00:07:36.000 This is Rick Caruso, who should have been mayor of L.A. They did everything to prevent him from becoming.

00:07:41.000 Play Cut 65. My heart goes out, obviously, to the people at their homes, and I'm watching the small businesses around us go up in flames.

00:07:51.000 You know, this is people's livelihoods.

00:07:53.000 So it's devastating.

00:07:56.000 But what is most concerning to me is our first responders and our firefighters who are trying to battle this.

00:08:03.000 There's no water in the Palisades.

00:08:05.000 There's no water coming out of the fire hydrant.

00:08:08.000 This is an absolute mismanagement by the city.

00:08:12.000 It's not the firefighters' fault, but it's about a city.

00:08:15.000 And I'm going to be very honest.

00:08:17.000 We've got a mayor that's out of the country.

00:08:19.000 And we've got a city that's burning.

00:08:21.000 And there's no resources to put out fires.

00:08:24.000 So if you look at your pictures, you don't see the firefighters there because there's nothing they can do.

00:08:30.000 And it looks like we're in a third-world country here.

00:08:33.000 Yeah, third-world country.

00:08:37.000 I mean...

00:08:38.000 You know, usually the fires are like an encampment under the freeway.

00:08:41.000 And so it's actually hard to know.

00:08:42.000 Is something that's burnt out in L.A. actually, you know, a fire?

00:08:49.000 Or is it just like another junkie, you know, lighting his crack pipe or whatever?

00:08:53.000 It's just a travesty.

00:08:56.000 And I keep thinking every year, I've lived here my whole life, one day people are going to stop voting for these people.

00:09:02.000 One day, you know, they're going to recall Gavin Newsom.

00:09:05.000 He beat his recall.

00:09:06.000 He got re-elected.

00:09:07.000 Like, it's just...

00:09:08.000 What will it take to wake up people in Los Angeles?

00:09:12.000 Maybe this is it.

00:09:13.000 Maybe this is finally it.

00:09:14.000 I just look at this.

00:09:16.000 This has been for years coming.

00:09:18.000 We had the Thousand Oaks fires back in 2020. We had the similar fires in 2018. This is not the first time we have seen this sort of fire, but can you speak really quickly for a minute for the national audience that doesn't understand the technical nature of how preventable this could be if they just cleaned up the brush?

00:09:38.000 Why don't they do that?

00:09:39.000 Yeah, apparently the environmental lobby is so strong, and they don't want you to, like, hurt, you know, some chaparral bush that's, you know, endangered, or, like, some endangered lizard.

00:09:49.000 You're not allowed to do anything.

00:09:51.000 You can endanger millions of people's lives and their children and their businesses, but you can't hurt the, like, nesting ground squirrel or whatever it is.

00:09:58.000 But the other thing is, we get these torrential downstorms, rainforests.

00:10:03.000 We get these horrible storms once a year.

00:10:04.000 Of course, we haven't had one yet, not one drop of rain yet.

00:10:07.000 We have so much water comes down into the city, so much water, billions of tons of water, and it all goes right into the ocean.

00:10:15.000 It just goes right into the ocean.

00:10:17.000 And everyone's always wondering, like, why don't they just, like, build, you know, big reservoirs?

00:10:20.000 Why can't you capture this water, have all this water?

00:10:23.000 You could have locally stored water tanks.

00:10:25.000 You could have neighbors fighting their own fires in the Palisades, in Malibu.

00:10:29.000 Malibu's burned down, like, 10 times in my lifetime, and they've never once organized this.

00:10:34.000 We have the water.

00:10:36.000 You know, we live next to an ocean.

00:10:37.000 But somehow the water that God gives us in rain never quite makes it to the fires.

00:10:43.000 Trump recommended this years ago, but they need to make sure the Delta smelt is prioritized while human beings' homes are destroyed. 0.81

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00:11:58.000 Another person just texted me.

00:12:00.000 I'm going to put this image up on screen.

00:12:03.000 They're home, just gone.

00:12:06.000 Look, I have a lot of friends in the Palisades.

00:12:09.000 Do a lot of events there.

00:12:10.000 We do a lot of support.

00:12:13.000 Just gone.

00:12:15.000 Eliminated and obliterated.

00:12:17.000 Peachy is with us.

00:12:17.000 Peachy, what can the federal government do, President Trump, in 12 days to intervene here?

00:12:24.000 Has FEMA been called?

00:12:25.000 Why has the National Guard not been called?

00:12:27.000 I don't know how good they would be maybe necessarily at fighting fires, but at least with logistical support, what am I missing here?

00:12:33.000 I mean, maybe FEMA would help this area because these are Biden voters.

00:12:36.000 We know FEMA doesn't want to help you if you're a Trump voter.

00:12:39.000 They're not going to help my house.

00:12:40.000 I mean, I guess they just have to work on whoever manages these mountains.

00:12:45.000 I mean, these mountains keep burning and displacing all these people.

00:12:48.000 But I just wanted to show you where I am.

00:12:49.000 I walked up a little bit.

00:12:51.000 I'm at Lake Avenue, the main north-south thoroughfare of Pasadena and Atchison.

00:12:56.000 And you can see it's been, like, totally blocked off.

00:12:59.000 And behind me is this beautiful old church, Westminster Presbyterian.

00:13:03.000 Behind me is completely blocked.

00:13:05.000 Black smoke.

00:13:06.000 All these homes here in Altadena, along Lake Avenue, all the businesses are just going.

00:13:13.000 And honestly, it's like really heartbreaking for me.

00:13:16.000 I know a family.

00:13:20.000 My friend has 10 children.

00:13:21.000 Her husband recently died of cancer.

00:13:23.000 And they live up that street in a beautiful old home.

00:13:26.000 And that's the only memory all her children have of their father in that home.

00:13:30.000 And I really have no idea what the fate of her home is.

00:13:33.000 I know that the family is safe, but so many friends in this neighborhood do not know what's happened to their house.

00:13:41.000 Another family at our school, their house was spared, but the neighbors next door up here, their home is gone.

00:13:47.000 And I'm just seeing fire trucks from all over the state coming down here.

00:13:54.000 Thank goodness.

00:13:54.000 I just, I mean, up there, just a block ahead of me, Woodbury, New York, is just...

00:14:00.000 You know, so many cops, black smoke billowing from these beautiful old homes.

00:14:06.000 And like I said, these are not, you know, billionaires.

00:14:09.000 These are not celebrities.

00:14:10.000 These homes are, you know, 120-year-old craftsman homes.

00:14:14.000 They're so beautiful.

00:14:15.000 And families have been in here for decades.

00:14:18.000 And it's just a real nightmare.

00:14:20.000 There's a lot of chatter, and I'm not sure the truth of this, the veracity of it, that there were a lot of fire insurance cancellation letters and notices sent recently.

00:14:29.000 Is that correct?

00:14:30.000 I have no insight into that.

00:14:32.000 I know that California makes it very difficult to get homeowners insurance.

00:14:36.000 You have to, if you want earthquake insurance, it's like so exorbitant that most people don't even bother with earthquake insurance.

00:14:44.000 And homeowners insurance is so expensive.

00:14:48.000 I mean, the cost of living here, as you know, is already so high.

00:14:51.000 I don't know anything about people's policies being canceled.

00:14:55.000 If that's the case, that feels like a lawsuit ready to happen.

00:14:59.000 I've heard that.

00:15:01.000 So I guess the final takeaway here, because I have to ask actually while I'm looking at this, is that church going to be consumed by the fire?

00:15:09.000 The neighborhood behind it I think might be in danger.

00:15:12.000 The smoke, this is just a couple blocks north of it, is on fire.

00:15:17.000 I think this church is stoned.

00:15:19.000 This church has been here since, you know, 1910 probably.

00:15:23.000 And, you know, I think it'll be okay.

00:15:27.000 But up the street.

00:15:29.000 The dry cleaner that we go to is gone.

00:15:31.000 Luckily, none of my husband's shirts were in the dry cleaner.

00:15:35.000 The hardware, the local hardware store, all these family businesses that have been here for decades, like cornerstones of this community.

00:15:41.000 And it really is a community.

00:15:42.000 I mean, it's a lot of liberals, but, you know, these are good people.

00:15:46.000 And it's just, I'm just in total shock.

00:15:49.000 Peachy, we'll be praying for you.

00:15:51.000 And we know how terrible this is right now.

00:15:54.000 Thank you so much.

00:15:55.000 Thanks, Charlie.

00:15:56.000 California has been more focused on gender reassignment surgery for minors, cash for illegals, high-rises for homeless, and fish than capturing water to be able to fight fires for their citizens.

00:16:09.000 What you are seeing on the ground right now in California is a perfect example as to why President Trump won.

00:16:18.000 Sending extra fire equipment to Ukraine, chartering flights to Ghana.

00:16:23.000 And not caring about the well-being of your own people or citizens.

00:16:30.000 It is constantly worried about abstractions abroad and ignoring the immediate concerns that are facing the American people.

00:16:40.000 Our next guest is Dr. Gad Saad coming up in the next segment.

00:16:44.000 We're going to be talking about suicidal empathy.

00:16:46.000 It ties into all of this.

00:16:49.000 This is a major public policy disaster.

00:16:52.000 And for people in California that have been voting for Democrats, this is what you get.

00:16:58.000 You get mismanaged government.

00:17:00.000 You get woke fire departments.

00:17:03.000 I mean, right now, one of our team members just texted me saying, I don't even know what to do.

00:17:08.000 Their entire house is gone.

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00:18:15.000 I'm going to say this just off the cuff before I introduce our guest.

00:18:19.000 Can we please just go away with half the screen during these emergency briefings to the sign language interpreters?

00:18:27.000 I have nothing against, obviously, people that cannot hear. 1.00

00:18:32.000 But there's closed captioning.

00:18:33.000 I mean, this is just over the top.

00:18:34.000 We can't do this.

00:18:35.000 We've got to get back to how it used to be.

00:18:37.000 It's just too much.

00:18:39.000 It's a distraction is what it is.

00:18:40.000 The reason is they do these emergency briefings for fires or terrorist attacks, and you're looking at this and you're not listening.

00:18:46.000 I don't like it.

00:18:47.000 So we just got a closed captioning is perfectly fine.

00:18:52.000 I think we have to get back to basics here.

00:18:55.000 Joining us now is Dr. Gad Saad.

00:18:58.000 We're here to talk about suicidal empathy.

00:19:01.000 Dr. Saad, what is that?

00:19:02.000 And welcome to the program.

00:19:03.000 Oh, great to be with you.

00:19:04.000 Have you recovered from seeing me in the red velvet suit at Mar-a-Lago?

00:19:08.000 Oh, I have.

00:19:09.000 It traumatized me for a day, but I have sufficiently recovered.

00:19:13.000 All right.

00:19:14.000 So suicidal empathy is the following, Charlie.

00:19:17.000 Empathy is a great thing, but like most things in life, it has to be deployed to the right targets and the right amount at the right place, right?

00:19:27.000 Aristotle already knew this many thousands of years ago.

00:19:31.000 So to be empathetic...

00:19:33.000 It's certainly a virtue that, you know, we should applaud, but to be orgiastically empathetic.

00:19:39.000 So, for example, American vets are less worthy of our empathy than illegal immigrants who are MS-13 gang members. 1.00

00:19:49.000 Transgender folks who want to play in women's sports, who are biological males. 0.90

00:19:58.000 Empathizing with them is more important than the hundreds of women who will lose a spot on the podium. 0.98

00:20:04.000 So suicidal empathy is the misfiring of an otherwise adaptive emotion.

00:20:10.000 So how does that apply in our politics?

00:20:13.000 Give us more and more examples of how that manifests in our politics.

00:20:17.000 Orgiastic open borders is due to suicidal empathy.

00:20:22.000 Choosing to never criticize Islam because it might marginalize the noble, peaceful Muslims that live next to me is a case of suicidal empathy.

00:20:32.000 Arguing that all immigrants are equal. 1.00

00:20:36.000 And hence, I mean, yes, they're equal in the sense that they're equal under the law, but they're not equally likely to assimilate and internalize Western values.

00:20:44.000 There's nothing racist or bigoted about that, right?

00:20:47.000 My house cat is a feline.

00:20:49.000 So is the wild lion in the savannah jungle.

00:20:54.000 They're both feline.

00:20:55.000 One of them wants me to pet it.

00:20:57.000 The other one wants to eat me for lunch.

00:20:59.000 And so I'm not bigoted against cats because I recognize that a lion is not the same thing as Fido, my cat.

00:21:06.000 And so criminality, how we...

00:21:09.000 Navigate through the penal system is a case of suicidal empathy.

00:21:14.000 Why don't we give the noble criminal an 87th chance?

00:21:18.000 He's already been criminalized by white patriarchy.

00:21:22.000 If we now put him in prison, we're double whamming him.

00:21:26.000 And so every lunatic public policy that you could think of that is truly insane ultimately is rooted in the reflex of suicidal and misguided empathy.

00:21:39.000 So, how then do we fight back against suicidal empathy?

00:21:44.000 And it seems more applicable, the West decided to not commit suicide politically this last November, and we've actually decided to choose life.

00:21:53.000 Your thoughts, Professor?

00:21:56.000 Yeah, so look, as you are, of course, I am elated that Donald Trump won, but I keep warning people, please don't be complacent.

00:22:05.000 The fact that he won doesn't mean that all of the parasitic ideas, all of the suicidal empathy magically is eradicated, right?

00:22:13.000 right?

00:22:14.000 It took 50 to 100 years for each of these disastrous ideas and these, you know, misguided emotional responses to proliferate through every nook and cranny of society.

00:22:26.000 So it's going to take more than just the four years of Donald Trump for us to win the battle.

00:22:32.000 So yes, let's rejoice that he won and the opposite would have been, the alternative would have been a disaster, but it doesn't end here.

00:22:41.000 A lot more work needs to be done.

00:22:42.000 Yeah.

00:22:43.000 And so how then do we fighting?

00:22:46.000 I mean, I know you have an upcoming book around these kinds of themes.

00:22:49.000 What?

00:22:49.000 What are the one, two, three bullet points?

00:22:51.000 If there was a through line as to why the West is collapsing, suicidal empathy could be one of the main reasons why.

00:22:58.000 Well, it's to remind people that orgiastic, unadulterated empathy is not a virtue, right?

00:23:08.000 Like most things in life.

00:23:10.000 We've evolved the capacity to discriminate between people.

00:23:15.000 I'm more likely to jump in front of a moving bus to save my biological children than I am to save a random child in Namibia.

00:23:25.000 That's not because I'm callous.

00:23:27.000 That's not because I'm sinister.

00:23:28.000 It's because I've evolved the emotional system.

00:23:32.000 That allows me to met out my investments in a way that makes evolutionary sense.

00:23:37.000 And so we need to remind people that it is perfectly reasonable to care more about your country than to care about a country that's 2,000 miles away.

00:23:48.000 To care more about your children than about some, you know...

00:23:53.000 Poorly mistreated child in Waziristan.

00:23:56.000 Again, that doesn't mean that we should never met out empathy and kindness to strangers, but it means that it has to be better regulated.

00:24:04.000 And so the quicker we can remind people that it is perfectly reasonable, for example, to be patriotic, to love your family first, the quicker we can eradicate this reflex of suicidal empathy.

00:24:16.000 Do you have any idea of an author or a thinker as to where this came from?

00:24:21.000 If there was a culprit where the first or second initiation points for where this originated?

00:24:29.000 So I think it originally started with...

00:24:32.000 The parasitic ideas, right?

00:24:34.000 So, you know, all cultures are equal.

00:24:36.000 Who are you to judge other cultures?

00:24:38.000 But of course, our own culture is not equal in that it's inferior, right?

00:24:43.000 The West is inferior to the noble Afghanis, right? 1.00

00:24:46.000 And what that does then is it creates a sense of, what I argue in the book, in my forthcoming book, a sense of survivor guilt.

00:24:55.000 So let me expand on this idea.

00:24:58.000 If you're in a plane crash, God forbid, In your row, everybody dies except you.

00:25:04.000 At first, you're elated.

00:25:06.000 Thank God I survived.

00:25:07.000 But then you might go through a ruminative period where there is a constant intrusive thought in your mind.

00:25:13.000 Why did I deserve to live while all those perfectly lovely people survived?

00:25:18.000 Well, I argue that the West suffers from...

00:25:21.000 This kind of survivor guilt, but at the collective level.

00:25:25.000 Why was I born in the West and therefore I've got all these privileges, whereas these poor people in Waziristan don't have my ability to thrive and flourish? 0.99

00:25:35.000 And so there is several roots of the genesis for where that comes from.

00:25:41.000 But it all originates from those parasitic ideas.

00:25:44.000 That's why my first book, Parasitic Mind, was about what happens to our cognitive system when it is zombified.

00:25:51.000 And then the next book is what happens to our emotional system when it becomes zombified.

00:25:56.000 If our cognitive system is zombified and then our emotional system is zombified, here we go to the abyss of infinite lunacy.

00:26:03.000 So let's try to contemporize this.

00:26:06.000 We're seeing right now what's happening with the United Kingdom grooming gang.

00:26:10.000 You're not allowed to speak out against Islamic rape gangs in the United Kingdom because you might offend the Mohammedans. 1.00

00:26:21.000 That the Mohammedans might sue you in court and the Mohammedans might come after you. 1.00

00:26:27.000 Is this an example of suicidal empathy?

00:26:30.000 It's a prime example.

00:26:32.000 It is front and central in my next book, and so it's in my book, Salah Empathy.

00:26:36.000 Let me draw an analogy for you, Charlie, from evolutionary psychology.

00:26:42.000 The number one predictor of child abuse in a home.

00:26:46.000 I don't know if you've ever heard me mention this.

00:26:47.000 If you haven't, can I ask you to guess without putting you on the spot?

00:26:51.000 Can you guess what is the number one predictor of child abuse in a home?

00:26:55.000 Religion.

00:26:56.000 No, not quite.

00:26:58.000 If there is a step-parent in the house, there is a hundredfold increase.

00:27:02.000 Meaning what religion they have.

00:27:04.000 But yes.

00:27:04.000 So go ahead.

00:27:05.000 But just to be clear.

00:27:06.000 I got you.

00:27:07.000 Yeah, you know, I got it.

00:27:09.000 So if there is a step-parent in the house, there is a hundredfold increase of there being a child abuse in that home.

00:27:18.000 Now, me saying that, which is an absolute incontrovertible fact, doesn't take away from the fact.

00:27:24.000 That most step-parents are perfectly lovely and are not abusers, right?

00:27:30.000 Both those statements hold true. 0.90

00:27:32.000 What happens in the British grooming gangs is the minute that you say that there is an epidemiological reality whereby Pakistani Muslims are the primary perpetrators of those crimes, then someone comes along and says, yes, but my uncle Ahmad is a lovely guy and he would never rape a child, right?

00:27:50.000 That is that suicidal empathy reflex, which is upon hearing something that might marginalize the noble Muslims, please shut that information down.

00:28:00.000 So, yes, that is a perfect example of suicidal empathy.

00:28:04.000 Dr. Saad, I want to also just speak more broadly about how the West is starting to push back against it originally.

00:28:12.000 Are you seeing more and more of a movement for people to be, let's just say...

00:28:19.000 Oppositional to this.

00:28:20.000 I suppose that actually is a better question.

00:28:21.000 What is the opposite of suicidal empathy?

00:28:24.000 Well-regulated empathy, right?

00:28:27.000 So let me give you another example that I think will drive that point home.

00:28:33.000 OCD, obsessive-compulsive disorder, is a psychiatric dysfunction, right?

00:28:39.000 I will spend eight hours washing my hands and scalding hot water until my skin falls off.

00:28:47.000 And then I don't get to work and then I get fired.

00:28:49.000 It's a dysfunction.

00:28:50.000 But the root of OCD is rooted in an actually adaptive, evolutionary-sensible mechanism, which is...

00:28:58.000 It makes evolutionary sense for us to scan the environment for potential threats.

00:29:04.000 So if you and I meet, Charlie, and I noticed that a second ago you sneezed into your hand and then you put out your hand to shake mine, I might wince at the possibility of shaking your hand precisely because I might get your cold or your bronchitis or whatever it is, right?

00:29:20.000 And therefore, it makes evolutionary sense for me to be scanning the world for environmental threats.

00:29:25.000 The problem becomes when That warning flag misfires.

00:29:30.000 It becomes hyperactive.

00:29:32.000 So I check that the back door is closed, but then I'm stuck there for the next four hours checking that the door is closed.

00:29:39.000 Well, this is the same idea with empathy.

00:29:42.000 Yes, be empathetic, but not orgiastically so, right?

00:29:46.000 Like life is about regulation.

00:29:48.000 It's about having the right amount in the right place to the right people.

00:29:54.000 So yes, empathy is good within normal ranges.

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00:31:02.000 Dr. Satt, I would imagine, you're a professor, that most professors are proponents of suicidal empathy.

00:31:09.000 Is that correct?

00:31:10.000 Oh, of course.

00:31:12.000 Big time.

00:31:13.000 I mean, all of them were in mourning when the ultra-empathetic Justin Trudeau resigned recently, right?

00:31:21.000 All of them were big champions of his because he was so kind.

00:31:26.000 He was so warm.

00:31:27.000 He was about land acknowledgments.

00:31:29.000 He was about diversity, inclusion, and equity.

00:31:31.000 He's about indigenous knowledge instead of the white supremacy scientific method.

00:31:37.000 So, of course, they are...

00:31:39.000 You know, stricken with suicidal empathy.

00:31:42.000 Now, I should say to your earlier point that there is a bit of a pushback.

00:31:46.000 I'm happy to report to your audience, Charlie, that I'm now receiving a growing number of emails from academics who are saying, wink, wink, I'm on your side.

00:31:57.000 Much more than I have in the past.

00:32:00.000 So maybe they're waking up so we can be at least a bit optimistic.

00:32:04.000 I would hope so.

00:32:05.000 So you're at Northwood University now in Michigan, in this country.

00:32:10.000 I really believe that we're entering a new era of American dominance and strength, prosperity.

00:32:18.000 Do you agree with that, Dr. Zed?

00:32:19.000 I do.

00:32:20.000 I do.

00:32:21.000 Look, life, as you know, is full of cycles, down cycles, up cycles.

00:32:26.000 I'd like to think that what we're seeing now, this kind of new renaissance, this new optimism, is not just a little bleep of a Donald Trump positive outlier, but rather he started the train onto a new...

00:32:41.000 So I'd like to think that you're absolutely right.

00:32:44.000 We went through a very difficult period.

00:32:45.000 And when I say we, I don't mean just the United States.

00:32:48.000 I mean Canada.

00:32:48.000 I mean the West.

00:32:49.000 But hopefully things are definitely turning around for the better today.

00:32:54.000 Dr. Saad, please plug your books or the way that our audience can support you.

00:32:57.000 The Parasitic Mind, The Sad Truth About Happiness, and I am feverishly working on suicidal empathy every day, every minute, every hour.

00:33:07.000 Hopefully it should be out in the next few months.

00:33:09.000 Thank you, Charlie.

00:33:10.000 Thank you, Dr. Sad.

00:33:11.000 Really appreciate it.

00:33:12.000 Thank you.

00:33:13.000 Cheers.

00:33:13.000 Take care.

00:33:13.000 Bye-bye.

00:33:14.000 Right now, I'm just getting text messages of the fires that are ongoing.

00:33:17.000 By the way, the way that they actually construct houses in Southern California, they have to use non-combustible materials to the best of their ability.

00:33:24.000 I know it's not totally possible, but this has to set all new building standards.

00:33:28.000 It's bad for everybody.

00:33:29.000 And when they have these billions of tons of rainwater, why can't they capture them, as Peachy said, and put them in a reservoir?

00:33:37.000 Florida is a perfect example, by the way, of adjusting and adapting to one's environment.

00:33:42.000 They build for hurricanes.

00:33:44.000 Why does California not do the same?

00:33:46.000 That is a question that does not have a good answer.

00:33:48.000 Why does California do X? It's a very, very difficult question to answer.

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00:33:57.000 Well, again, invade the world, invite the third world, become the third world. 1.00

00:34:01.000 Breaking news, Biden has now announced $500 million to be sent to Ukraine for military aid.

00:34:08.000 $500 million.

00:34:10.000 You know who could use $500 million?

00:34:11.000 The people of Southern California could use $500 million.

00:34:15.000 But Joe Biden hates the citizens of this country.

00:34:17.000 He always has.

00:34:18.000 And it's going to change in 11 days and 22 hours.

00:34:21.000 In 11 days and 22 hours, a new movement will take control of the United States government.

00:34:28.000 By the way, where is FEMA? I'm sure there's some federal government response here, but...

00:34:33.000 Joe Biden didn't care about Western North Carolina.

00:34:35.000 He didn't care about the people of Georgia.

00:34:37.000 He didn't care about flooding.

00:34:38.000 It's all just a very big annoyance to him.

00:34:41.000 In 11 days, it changes.

00:34:43.000 We're going to take back this country and we are going to hit the ground running.

00:34:47.000 Executive orders, pardons, clemency, ending wars, prosperity, drill baby drill, getting rid of inflation.

00:34:54.000 We're going to do it all.

00:34:55.000 Just got to hang on for the next 11 days and 22 hours.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - January 09, 2025

California Burns While Its Leaders Vanish

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