00:00:00.000Hey everybody, today to Charlie Kirk Show, Libby Emmons, Natalie Winters, Jack Pesovic, Matt Gates, and Lauren Boebert in an action-packed episode live from AmericaFest.
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00:01:35.000Well, I think it's fair to say that the deep state, the permanent political class, the American ruling class, whatever you want to call it, really has declared war on the American people.
00:02:07.000How false beliefs form and how to correct them.
00:02:11.000And they actually go down into the cognitive psychology of how to best formulate and craft fact checks so they'll be the most salient with the American people to really sort of alter and distort what we believe to be reality.
00:02:23.000This is a over half a million dollar grant from the National Science Foundation that they're funding in concert with a lot of these left-wing fact-checking organizations to really stop the spread of what they call misinformation.
00:02:37.000I'm sure people are up to date on the Twitter files and all these sort of efforts, whether it's FBI, the DHS, CISA, which is under the purview of DHS, not just to censor speech that people like me and you say all the time, but I think to really gaslight Americans into believing certain narratives that we know that, you know, post-millennial talks about all the time are not true.
00:02:59.000And it's all part of a broader agenda.
00:03:01.000But I think it's just really important to remember that we are in an information warfare right now.
00:03:05.000So, but Natalie, what bothers me is how is it legal for the federal government to pseudo-censor, or just let's be honest, to censor Americans with these cryptic grants?
00:03:15.000I mean, this has to be against the First Amendment.
00:03:18.000The federal government is not allowed to shut people up, but they're doing it anyway in this kind of funding instrument.
00:03:25.000And it's explicitly political because there's another grant from the National Science Foundation that is specifically targeted at, quote, countering populist narratives, specifically when it comes to COVID-19 and vaccines.
00:03:38.000So this is, again, I mean, you ask how it's legal.
00:04:04.000But it really is a dystopic future that they want for us.
00:04:08.000And they use these terms like misinformation.
00:04:10.000You know, I've followed Turning Point from the time I was in high school and college, and they were distorting gender and what those words meant back then.
00:04:17.000And now, you know, time has progressed.
00:04:18.000Now it's misinformation and disinformation that they're doing the same thing with.
00:04:21.000Libby, I want to get to the story you have on the post-millennial.
00:04:23.000But any thoughts on this theme that we're exploring right now?
00:04:26.000Yeah, I think this is exactly what we were talking about.
00:04:28.000And that we see the new Twitter files dropped today.
00:04:31.000And it looks clear that the FBI was pressuring Twitter to censor the Hunter Biden laptop story.
00:04:48.000They kept it suppressed because they wanted to protect what's essentially this uniparty of people who want to rule us, as Natalie was saying, really think that they're better than us, really think that their views are more important than ours.
00:05:01.000And I think it's really about time that we speak out against this and take a stand and save our country.
00:05:07.000Natalie, any other additional thoughts on this that we should know about?
00:05:09.000I mean, the new Congress should have a special committee just looking into how many billions of dollars are we spending to shut up our own citizens?
00:05:19.000And I think with the Hunter Biden story, don't miss the forest for the trees.
00:05:23.000Yes, he's one of these American princelings that have done business deals with the Chinese Communist Party and basically every one of America's enemies.
00:05:30.000But I think the buried lead there is how America's intelligence agencies and really the entire all levels of federal government collaborated to protect their own.
00:05:39.000There are many people who are like Hunter Biden in this country who've sold us out to the highest bidder.
00:05:44.000And it's all about the doctrine of managed decline, right?
00:05:47.000These people want to make money off of selling off the United States on the way down, but it's movements like this, like Turning Point.
00:05:53.000Everyone here in this audience, that's how you fight back, right?
00:05:56.000Because we don't want to sell America out.
00:07:10.000And we even saw after the laptop drop in 2020 articles from NPR and the New York Times discussing explicitly why they would not cover those stories as opposed to actually covering the stories.
00:07:21.000And we're seeing now in the new Twitter files dropped today that Yoel Roth, who was head of trust and safety at Twitter, participated in an exercise given by the FBI, a tabletop exercise of what would happen if there was a drop of misinformation files on Hunter Biden and Burisma.
00:07:56.000On a potential hack and dump operation relating to Hunter Biden.
00:08:00.000The goal was to shape how media covered it and how social media carried it.
00:08:03.000So what looked to be an exercise was actually just the FBI prepping Twitter to censor the New York Post intentionally.
00:08:11.000And so the FBI was basically running Twitter's censorship bureau.
00:08:16.000Yeah, and also from the files today, we see that there were a number of FBI agents working at Twitter and they had their own Slack channel.
00:08:25.000So say that is that a new Twitter file that we're going to have?
00:08:30.000As of 2020, there were so many former FBI employees working at Twitter that they had created their own private Slack channel and a crib sheet to onboard new FBI arrivals.
00:08:41.000It's just Michael Schellenberger dropped to today.
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00:10:47.000What are you hoping to get out of this?
00:10:48.000What do you want to see from Republican leaders?
00:10:50.000I want to see how we can fix our elections because we put the best candidates out there until we fix our elections and get back to what the Constitution says of having elections on one day.
00:12:17.000A lot of stories want to go through here, Jack.
00:12:19.000We are exploring off-camera a rather interesting topic of how do we beat these people.
00:12:24.000I think one of the ways is to exploit this unhappy marriage in the left between the legitimate economic Marxists and the race people.
00:12:32.000They're incompatible because on the left, somehow they become cheerleaders for the most powerful rich corporations, which in their DNA they're supposed to hate because of the economic theory that ties together the American left.
00:12:46.000Well, I think that's right because you look at the history of this and you can see it exemplified in the history of Antifa, which, of course, I have the book out and I've been going back and rereading some of it.
00:13:18.000And it's all underwritten by corporations realize they could create a shield to no longer get to...
00:13:24.000That's criticized with their mass profits or the slave labor in China by just saying they're for pregnant men chemically castrating kids and white people are evil.
00:13:33.000And so my point is that in order to drive that wedge forward, you've got to go and find the economic Marxists that are still, which, by the way, are still there.
00:13:44.000And by and large, particularly internationally, you tend to find this more because when Marxists came to the United States and Yuri Bezbanov talked about this in the 1970s, he understood that our culture, because we were not a peasant and aristocracy culture, we had this massive middle class.
00:14:01.000And you couldn't divide people on economic lines the way Marxists and Maoists actually create people's markets have problems, but it's the best way to organize society, period.
00:14:31.000They're going to do what's expedient for them.
00:14:33.000They're going to make use of their utilitarian and relativist philosophies to just do what's right for themselves in the moment and without concern for anybody else.
00:14:41.000So they're going to expose themselves pretty quickly, I think.
00:14:45.000Yeah, I think the left is really good at getting Republicans to kind of have some infighting, right?
00:14:49.000We obviously have the establishment stripe of Republicans that we want to take out.
00:14:53.000I think a lot of times they're in bed with the left.
00:14:56.000But I think in terms of not wasting our resources, having them do some infighting would be good for our movement.
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00:19:09.000Well, you know, Charlie, I think that the true base of our party wants to see one of the fighters in leadership, not some shill for lobbyists and special interests.
00:19:20.000And the people here know what every single one of us know in Congress, and that is the hardest working, most talented member who inspires our base and gets us to perform at our best is Jim Jordan from Ohio.
00:19:35.000He's the best, and he might not be in the race yet.
00:20:16.000I mean, I remember having to deal with Jeff Sessions and Mattis and Tillerson and Bill Barr.
00:20:23.000It was sort of a parade of horribles with some of the people he chose inside of Washington, D.C.
00:20:27.000So maybe we ought to have a choice come out of the House that represents the conservative center of our caucus.
00:20:34.000I'll be for Trump for president, but I will not follow him in supporting Kevin McCarthy for speaker.
00:20:39.000Lauren, like I said, we have to have accountability here.
00:20:45.000And without that, Kevin McCarthy's not speaker.
00:20:48.000There has been no agreements made on that.
00:20:51.000And how can we believe anything else moving forward?
00:20:53.000So maybe things change on January 3rd.
00:20:56.000But President Trump should take a look at what is actually being said in the House of Representatives right now.
00:21:02.000And so, so, Matt, yeah, by the way, like, I remember having to go and beg and plead for subpoena power the last time we were in the majority.
00:21:11.000And we had Paul Ryan and Trey Gowdy standing in the way of the accountability that could have reined in the FBI and the Department of Justice before they did all this additional damage to our country.
00:21:21.000And Kevin McCarthy was like a wallflower.
00:21:23.000He was sitting on his hands, never did anything to help us, never spoke up to help us at all.
00:21:27.000So now I'm supposed to believe that when he needs my vote, he's all of a sudden going to be like some big alpha giving us the authority to get answers.
00:22:24.000So we are a majority rule, self-governing body.
00:22:28.000And for the first time, the GOP conference came together and actually discussed the conference rules that we're going to have and we're able to have amendments.
00:22:35.000The first round went absolutely terrible.
00:22:57.000And Kevin McCarthy was completely silent in this forum when it came to earmarks.
00:23:02.000And now Republicans are probably going to spend just as much as Democrats did because we have earmarks back in place.
00:23:08.000Yeah, think of some of the crazy stuff that we're asking for, our unreasonable demands.
00:23:13.000We want conservatives on the key committees.
00:23:16.000We want a budget on the floor that will balance.
00:23:19.000We want every bill to deal with a single subject, not to have to vote on the farm bill and war powers in Yemen in the same vote.
00:23:28.000And these are things Kevin McCarthy is unwilling to give us because he actually wants to turn the institution over to the lobbyists and K-Street.
00:23:37.000Remember, Kevin McCarthy is the guy who has been identified as big tech's best friend in Congress.
00:23:42.000Do you really want some lackey for big tech making these key decisions about what legislation is reviewed and considered on the House floor?
00:23:51.000And so the reason Kevin is pushing back on these demands we've made is not because he is coming from some position of strength.
00:23:58.000It's because he's a puppet for the lobbyists and the America-last institutions that have been keeping the people of our country down for decades.
00:24:06.000And so the fear that some people have is, well, no, Speaker, how long is this going to go on without finding a consensus?
00:24:12.000And so just so I'm clear, you're a hard no, Matt, right?
00:24:15.000I mean, he could make you head of the rules committee and you would still say no.
00:24:27.000If there is accountability there, we can start having other conversations.
00:24:31.000But those conversations don't exist without accountability.
00:24:34.000So we'll see on January 3rd if there's any accountability there, but I don't see it coming yet.
00:24:38.000Walk us through the process then, Matt.
00:24:40.000What does a win look like for you on January 3rd?
00:24:43.000Well, I would really like on January 2nd for Kevin McCarthy to see that he doesn't have the votes, he won't have the votes, and then from that, a consensus candidate like a Jim Jordan, like Lise Eldon, could step forward and be considered.
00:24:57.000Doesn't have to be a member of Congress.
00:25:12.000And you actually believe that people ought to have skills in political battle.
00:25:17.000Oftentimes, we have an RNC that has meetings and they do lectures, but people don't come out of interactions with the RNC better prepared for the fight.
00:25:26.000That's exactly what Turning Point does, and that's what we ought to scale up.
00:25:29.000I have no interest in being RNC chair, but I guarantee you I wouldn't spend $700,000 on flowers.
00:25:59.000Well, the role is called of the Congress alphabetically.
00:26:03.000So we need extra courage from those with last names that starts with A, B, C, D.
00:26:10.000And then as those votes pile up, then I think you'll see more folks reject McCarthy as a candidate, and there may be subsequent rounds of voting.
00:26:19.000We might not get to a speaker on the first ballot.
00:26:28.000I'd rather have sort of a turbulent takeoff than to spend two years trying to follow a leader that's got a wet finger in the wind to try to figure out where to go with things.
00:26:37.000So what you're saying is that by the end, the wee hours of 1.3, we may not have a speaker.
00:27:04.000There's only slower surrender than yesterday.
00:27:07.000And I don't want to be in Congress if that's the case.
00:27:09.000Frankly, Charlie, I've probably got a lot of constituents that wouldn't mind if the House of Representatives didn't convene at all.
00:27:14.000Maybe the people are more safe and our liberties are more safe when folks in Congress are back home in their districts, not sitting around the swamp and inside the building.
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00:30:19.000Francis is doing the bidding of that deep church by striking back against priests that actually stand up for the things that the Bible teaches.
00:30:30.000Yeah, so, but I guess my response is: we know the Vatican's corrupt, at least I do.
00:31:24.000By the way, the last person, the last high-profile person who was defroged was McCarrick, who was the most high-profile pedophile.
00:31:32.000So, the fact of the matter is, this guy has been giving the same punishment that a known high-level pedophile would receive for being a Trump supporter and being prolonged.
00:31:43.000So, as a non-Catholic, but as a Christian, I look at this and I don't quite understand the dynamics.
00:32:25.000And they're telling him no appeals whatsoever.
00:32:28.000So, Charlie, this has had the opposite effect.
00:32:32.000This has inflamed the conservative side of the Catholic Church here in America and around the world.
00:32:38.000People are rallying to him the same way they rallied for Cardinal Zen when the Chinese Communist Party was trying to lock him up and did lock him up.
00:32:45.000And then Francis made the deal with the Chinese Communist Party.
00:32:49.000I would put it on that level because you're seeing this now.
00:32:53.000I'm not going to say schism, but I will say split within the Catholic Church of people saying, Look, we don't like criticizing our Pope.
00:33:02.000He's the leader of the church, but this guy makes it easy.
00:33:05.000This guy makes it very, very easy because what he's doing is absolutely wrong.
00:33:10.000I mean, just to reiterate the point, you have legitimate pedophiles that were in the Catholic Church that were not unfrocked or defrocked.
00:33:17.000Because, Charlie, here's what happens: right?
00:33:18.000You have to understand the Jesuit mafia.
00:33:21.000And Pope Francis is the first Jesuit pope that we've ever had in the church.
00:33:27.000Other people who have been defrocked, in some cases, even excommunicated when they were Jesuits, Pope Francis would come in and overturn it and protect them and help out his buddies because there are different orders of priests.
00:33:42.000Now, of course, Father Pavone, Mr. Pavone, whatever the proper term is right now, is not a Jesuit.
00:33:48.000And so Francis could care less about dealing with him.
00:33:51.000You are now seeing this mafia of liberals, socialists take over the Vatican, and many other entities within the church seek to impose their rule.
00:34:00.000By the way, you've got this guy, Father James Martin, out there.
00:34:03.000It's LGBT this, LGBT that, activism, activism, activism.
00:34:07.000And he's promoted by the church because he's a Jesuit.
00:34:13.000Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:34:14.000Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:34:17.000Thank you so much for listening and God bless.
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