The Charlie Kirk Show - Charlie's Man for Arizona + Take the Whitepill

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00:01:18.000 Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:01:19.000 It's election day in Arizona.

00:01:21.000 It's July 21st, 2026.

00:01:24.000 I'm back here behind the YREFI flag here at the YREFI.

00:01:27.000 You can finally remember what studio you're in now.

00:01:30.000 Well, here we are.

00:01:31.000 Honored to be with you all.

00:01:33.000 And it is an election day, especially here in Arizona.

00:01:37.000 And So, Tyler Boyer, Mr. Arizona is here to help walk us through it.

00:01:41.000 We have Andy Biggs, go bigs or go home, two bigs to rig, primary day.

00:01:48.000 Tyler Boyer, help us make sense of this.

00:01:51.000 What, first of all, are the marching orders?

00:01:53.000 If you're within earshot, if you're in Arizona, what are the marching orders?

00:01:56.000 And we'll go from there.

00:01:58.000 Well, we got to win by historic numbers today.

00:02:00.000 And it's really important.

00:02:01.000 You know, I want to just point out a lot of people have said primaries aren't everything, they don't tell you exactly what's going to happen in general.

00:02:09.000 However, I will point out it is better to win big as big as possible, get as many votes out as possible in your primary because voting is habitual.

00:02:19.000 So it's a habit.

00:02:21.000 When you get more of your low propensity voters out to vote for a primary, that's a big point.

00:02:26.000 They're more likely to show up in a general election.

00:02:29.000 And so our team has been as serious as we can be in this and obviously promoting Andy Biggs from day one.

00:02:38.000 We just saw the videos of Charlie promoting.

00:02:41.000 Andy back in May of 2025, just months before he was assassinated.

00:02:45.000 We did one of the largest rallies, primary rallies that was in this country this election cycle.

00:02:54.000 And Andy is on pace today to win by maybe bigger margins than any Republican has in the last 40 years in a primary election.

00:03:06.000 Charlie was super gung ho about Andy Biggs.

00:03:08.000 This is a very.

00:03:13.000 Would passion project be the right term for this?

00:03:15.000 Like, this is, yeah, this is a race we really want to win for him.

00:03:17.000 I mean, I mean, look, here's the way that we look at it.

00:03:21.000 And I just, again, just to recap for everyone that's just tuning in, maybe for the first time, getting involved with elections for the first time.

00:03:27.000 The left has become really good at consolidating its base and turning out base voters and convincing low propensity base voters to turn out to make up for independent votes.

00:03:42.000 This is the Barack Obama way.

00:03:43.000 This is how Barack Obama became president, effectively.

00:03:46.000 The right has been really bad at this.

00:03:49.000 And so, what we oftentimes will do is we'll nominate kind of a milquetoast candidate that nobody's really excited for and lose an election.

00:03:55.000 That's basically what happened in the Romney era.

00:03:58.000 How Romney lost and how Trump won is because Trump was much more in line with the Obama style politics, getting your base together, consolidating your base, and then getting more people to turn out that are low propensity than the independents maybe voting against you.

00:04:15.000 Well, and so this is the big question this primary season and then into the midterms is without President Trump on the ballot, can we get these people that seem to only show up when Trump's running?

00:04:27.000 Can we get them out?

00:04:28.000 And that's why what we're doing at Turning Point Action.

00:04:30.000 Is so critical, especially in the state of Arizona, New Hampshire, Nevada.

00:04:35.000 Tyler, give us an update.

00:04:37.000 I saw you were posting about this.

00:04:39.000 Where are we at?

00:04:40.000 Because this audience knows that we have been building a machine to get out the vote, chase the vote.

00:04:46.000 Where are we at compared to 2024?

00:04:48.000 Yeah, I mean, so you just brought up something that's really important.

00:04:52.000 When Trump's on the ballot, we generally do worse, statistically worse, many points worse, because low propensity voters, again, that I just brought up, Aren't as moved because when name ID is low on a candidate, it's bad.

00:05:07.000 When people don't understand what's at stake, it's bad.

00:05:11.000 Presidential elections obviously turn out a lot more voters.

00:05:13.000 So when you have a midterm election, you have to work extra hard to get those voters out, which means that you have to have a better ground game.

00:05:20.000 You have to have field offices on the ground.

00:05:22.000 You have to have people activated.

00:05:25.000 It's ideal to have candidates on the ballot that when you can't have Trump, you got to have somebody that at least people know.

00:05:31.000 And so this is why it's really important.

00:05:34.000 And every state's a little bit different, but You know, we're really bullish on the red wall strategy that we're talking about.

00:05:41.000 Arizona, Nevada, New Hampshire could undo the Democrats' stranglehold on the blue wall, which is Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania.

00:05:50.000 You could win, you know, potentially in 2028 by winning the R3 red wall states without winning any of the blue wall states, which is terrifying to the Democrats.

00:06:00.000 But again, this is why this election cycle has been so important in 2026.

00:06:04.000 You have to lay the foundation.

00:06:06.000 So you have to have candidates running that people know.

00:06:09.000 Yeah.

00:06:10.000 And the strategy is different everywhere.

00:06:11.000 So, New Hampshire, we just brought up New Hampshire.

00:06:14.000 John Sununu's running.

00:06:15.000 John Sununu's a name.

00:06:17.000 The Sununu name is a name, right?

00:06:19.000 It's a little bit more moderate of a name, but that's a little bit more amenable for.

00:06:25.000 And I love the way you say it.

00:06:27.000 So, some people in this audience might go, Sununu is too moderate for turning point.

00:06:32.000 And your motto, and this is something I remember you preaching to Charlie and Charlie repeating and all this stuff we get the most conservative candidate.

00:06:40.000 That we can win.

00:06:42.000 With the best chance of winning.

00:06:43.000 Exactly.

00:06:44.000 And that people know, again, because again, this name ID idea without Trump on the ballot is really important that you're bringing it, right?

00:06:51.000 You want to have the best possible name, the person that people know the best, that are willing to show up for the best, are able to tell their neighbors and friends about that person the best.

00:07:01.000 And in New Hampshire, that's Johnson Uno right now.

00:07:05.000 In Arizona, that's Andy Biggs.

00:07:07.000 Andy Biggs, the former chairman of the Freedom Caucus, The former Senate president has been around, has been one of the best congressmen that this country has had for the last decade.

00:07:18.000 He is by wide margin the best known.

00:07:22.000 He outnumbers in name ID the current governor of Arizona, Katie Hobbs.

00:07:27.000 So you have a great opportunity when people know that person to be able to go out and share the gospel of, hey, you got to get out and vote for this person.

00:07:37.000 Like, oh, yeah, I kind of know that guy.

00:07:39.000 You're going to turn out more low propensity voters that way.

00:07:41.000 So, as you said, we do have lower turnout in midterm years.

00:07:45.000 All these ballot chases, they're out, they're engaging with those lower propensity voters.

00:07:48.000 What do they get reasons for why these people are not voting?

00:07:52.000 Do they just say, I only really feel like voting if it's a presidential year?

00:07:55.000 Are they not even really aware the election's going on?

00:07:59.000 Yeah, what's the story that they encounter?

00:08:01.000 Yeah, so most people assume that people are just lazy or they have some reason not to vote.

00:08:06.000 It actually turns out that that's not the case in most circumstances.

00:08:10.000 Most people just forget to vote or they don't think voting is important or they think that you really only vote every four years.

00:08:17.000 So a low propensity voter sometimes is a less educated voter.

00:08:21.000 They just don't even realize what's going on.

00:08:23.000 People are busy, they have lives, they have jobs, they have families.

00:08:26.000 Most of the people that we communicate with are like, Oh, yeah, I'll totally vote.

00:08:31.000 They just forgot.

00:08:32.000 They just don't know.

00:08:33.000 I mean, I think about this is why voting's habitual.

00:08:35.000 I think about those people we ran into in 24 where they thought they'd voted for Trump because they voted in a primary, because they'd signed a petition.

00:08:43.000 I think in some cases, even because they'd signed up for a rally, they thought they'd voted, correct?

00:08:48.000 People think sometimes that just engaging watching Fox News or listening to the Charlie Kirk show, taking a poll online.

00:08:55.000 We have had numerous people this election cycle that we're knocking into, that we're talking to, that are huge fans of the Charlie Kirk show, Charlie Turning Point.

00:09:04.000 That have not voted in the last three midterm elections.

00:09:09.000 Yeah, I'll never forget that story about the house with the Trump shrine in his garage that wasn't voting.

00:09:17.000 Yeah, and this happens all the time.

00:09:19.000 But this is why I say to everyone primary elections are important because the more that you can engage people, educate them, become a habit with voting, then the more likely they are to vote and turn out in the general election.

00:09:31.000 All right, I want to go through a list of all of the Turning Point Action endorsements in the state of Arizona.

00:09:37.000 This is, so we've got, throw up that first graphic, and you can see the list here.

00:09:42.000 So you've got Andy Biggs, obviously, for governor, and you've got, just you go through the list, Tyler.

00:09:49.000 Yeah, so Alex Colloden has been in the state legislature.

00:09:52.000 He is one of the most preeminent election integrity lawyers in America.

00:09:58.000 Fantastic.

00:09:59.000 Some of the biggest wins.

00:10:00.000 In fact, he is the bill drafter that got pushed to the public that's going to be on the ballot this fall to make Arizona elections.

00:10:10.000 Almost identical in many ways to Florida's.

00:10:13.000 Florida.

00:10:13.000 Great.

00:10:14.000 And that's for Secretary of State, Chief Election Officer, Chief Election Officer.

00:10:17.000 And our Lieutenant Governor, effectively, as well.

00:10:19.000 So, no.

00:10:20.000 So, this year actually will be the first year that Arizona will have a Lieutenant Governor.

00:10:24.000 Oh, all right.

00:10:24.000 So, that's a new law that just got passed.

00:10:26.000 So, Andy Biggs will effectively pick a running mate here in the coming weeks.

00:10:30.000 Okay.

00:10:30.000 Kimberly Yee.

00:10:31.000 Kimberly Yee is the current treasurer.

00:10:33.000 She's fantastic.

00:10:35.000 You'll remember a lot of people talked about her because she was the top vote getter in 2022. 1.00

00:10:39.000 A lot of reasons why people believe there was funny business going on in Arizona because Kimberly Yee. 1.00

00:10:44.000 Kimberly Yee won a ton of precincts that Carrie Lake lost on paper. 1.00

00:10:50.000 We later found out that this is a lot of election manipulation.

00:10:53.000 Obviously, they were not targeting Kimberly the same way that they were targeting Carrie, but Kimberly is fantastic.

00:11:00.000 She was in the Senate Education Committee under Andy Biggs while he was Senate President.

00:11:07.000 And we believe that she will be the best defender of ESAs or the voucher program.

00:11:12.000 Again, remember, school choice is the biggest in Arizona, it's the number one program in the country.

00:11:19.000 A lot of states, a lot of red states want to replicate it, but what we cannot have happen is the Democrats come in and get rid of the whole thing.

00:11:26.000 And so she will be a big, big difference. 0.82

00:11:27.000 She's running for superintendent of public instruction.

00:11:29.000 That's right. 0.99

00:11:30.000 She's bar none, not even close, way better than the competition.

00:11:34.000 Dr. Ralph Heap for corporation commissioner.

00:11:37.000 So, Dr. Ralph Heap, again, if you recall, Justin Heap, we got elected, who's the Freedom Caucus member that took over for Stephen Richer as chief elections officer of Maricopa County.

00:11:49.000 This is his dad.

00:11:51.000 His dad has been serving in the legislature.

00:11:53.000 Great man.

00:11:54.000 He's a surgeon.

00:11:56.000 That's where the doctor comes from.

00:11:58.000 So he's very smart.

00:11:59.000 What would he do in this role?

00:12:01.000 He has been serving the legislature and specifically has taken focus on water and our electric bills.

00:12:09.000 So the Corporation Commission is directly responsible for overseeing Arizona Public Service, APS, which runs one of the largest electric companies in the country.

00:12:20.000 And so this is to keep rates low and to hold that in a much more conservative position.

00:12:25.000 Yeah.

00:12:26.000 And he's great.

00:12:27.000 So we definitely recommend voting for Dr. Ralph Heap there.

00:12:31.000 And then you got Elijah Norton, state treasurer.

00:12:33.000 So taking over for Kimberly Yee.

00:12:35.000 Yeah, Elijah Norton, young guy, ran actually against David Schweiker and did pretty well last time for Congress.

00:12:43.000 He was since then the treasurer for the Arizona Republican Party, has done a tremendous job, big supporter of Turning Point for many years, grew one of the largest insurance companies in his own business, multi, multi, multi million dollar company.

00:12:59.000 And we think he's going to do a tremendous job.

00:13:00.000 And then there are obviously some names that people are probably like, why aren't they on there?

00:13:04.000 But they are.

00:13:05.000 Turning Point Action Arizona federal endorsements.

00:13:08.000 We've got Eli Crane, Paul Gosar, Abe Hamadeh, Dr. Zudi Jasser, Mark Lamb, and Juan Siskamani.

00:13:14.000 So those round out.

00:13:16.000 You can throw that graphic up there if people want to see it.

00:13:18.000 But that rounds out sort of the list of names people are probably expecting to see.

00:13:23.000 Yeah.

00:13:24.000 So Sheriff Mark Lamb, great friend to the organization for many years, actually did the Big Border documentary that we did with Charlie.

00:13:32.000 A few years back, border battle here.

00:13:35.000 Those that remember it and follow Turning Points content, huge.

00:13:39.000 He's obviously been sheriff, fighting the left longer than just about anybody in the state since the left has tried to hijack Arizona and get rid of all the border fence and things like that.

00:13:53.000 We have Juan Sisgamani that's in the fight of his life right now in CD6.

00:13:58.000 So this is one of the key target districts in America.

00:14:01.000 Arizona has two of them CD1 and CD6.

00:14:04.000 So, CD1 is Jay Feely, Joe Chaplick, both friends of the organization.

00:14:10.000 We're going to see how that turns out tonight.

00:14:12.000 But Wansas Gamani is needing all the support he possibly can get, not just to help Arizona, but to save Congress.

00:14:19.000 To save the House, yeah.

00:14:20.000 That's a huge thing.

00:14:21.000 With all of the adjustments different states have made, we're one of the only states that has swing districts anymore.

00:14:26.000 So, Arizona has the highest per capita number of swing districts, population wise, right there with Iowa.

00:14:33.000 So, Iowa and Arizona.

00:14:34.000 Both have gubernatorial races and Andy Biggs and Zach Lane.

00:14:37.000 And then we both have two at risk congressional districts.

00:14:42.000 Yeah.

00:14:42.000 So, polls close at 7 p.m. in Arizona tonight.

00:14:47.000 So, even if you're listening to this or watching this broadcast and you're like, I don't live in Arizona, but my cousin does, call your cousin.

00:14:54.000 Get everybody out to the polls.

00:14:56.000 As Tyler is saying, this is a muscle that needs to be exercised when there are elections to be had.

00:15:02.000 You cannot sit this out.

00:15:04.000 Get out and vote today.

00:15:06.000 What's the website they can go to to find their polling location, things like that?

00:15:10.000 Yeah, so you can go to tpaction.com slash AZ early, which has all of the should redirect to our election day website for Arizona.

00:15:23.000 Yeah, which is vote Arizona slash Arizona.

00:15:25.000 I'm sorry, tpaction.com.

00:15:26.000 We did update it.

00:15:27.000 tpaction.com slash vote Arizona.

00:15:30.000 Or is it vote AZ?

00:15:31.000 Vote Arizona. 0.93

00:15:32.000 Vote Arizona.

00:15:33.000 tpaction.com slash vote Arizona for all of the polling places.

00:15:39.000 If you follow the Turning Point Action social media, we are directing people all day long.

00:15:46.000 If you live in Arizona, again, we're sending text messages out to basically everyone in the state.

00:15:51.000 We have been for the last two weeks.

00:15:53.000 Just to remind everybody, you got to get out to vote right away today.

00:15:58.000 And bigs, Andy has the potential to actually do something historic today.

00:16:04.000 He could be one of the largest, most winningest primary victories in Arizona for the last 40 years, which would send a huge message.

00:16:14.000 And we actually, we're going to be broadcasting tonight.

00:16:18.000 We're starting around 7, 7 30 local.

00:16:21.000 That's right.

00:16:22.000 So kind of late on the East Coast, but that's when the results are going to start.

00:16:25.000 Coming in.

00:16:26.000 There's an election watch party if you're in Arizona.

00:16:29.000 And this matters for the whole country.

00:16:30.000 The way that Arizona goes, the whole country goes for this next election.

00:16:33.000 We need to keep Arizona.

00:16:35.000 Actually, we need to fortify Arizona.

00:16:37.000 Thank you, Tyler.

00:16:38.000 Thanks, Jessica. 0.99

00:16:38.000 Vote Arizona today. 0.99

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00:17:58.000 Uh, joining us now is G. Van Fleet.

00:18:00.000 Um, so great to have you back on the show.

00:18:03.000 I can't believe that we have to cover this ground again, G.

00:18:07.000 But here we are.

00:18:08.000 I can believe it.

00:18:09.000 All right, here we are.

00:18:10.000 So I'm gonna, but I'm gonna play the clip of what inspired having you on here.

00:18:15.000 And this is uh, Hassan Piker, who's very influential in far left politics.

00:18:20.000 He endorses a lot of candidates, speaks to college Democrats, all the things.

00:18:24.000 We should emphasize this point.

00:18:25.000 This is the probably what.

00:18:28.000 Should we say the Charlie Kirk of liberals you are under?

00:18:31.000 No, he doesn't deserve that.

00:18:32.000 He doesn't deserve it.

00:18:33.000 He's very influential and he's very popular.

00:18:35.000 Sot 7.

00:18:36.000 I got stopped by a cop who thought I was like making fun of Mao Zedong, which I never would and never will.

00:18:43.000 Mao Zedong is one of the great leaders of this world, okay?

00:18:49.000 A man who changed the entire universe, the entire planet.

00:18:55.000 Zhi, what do you think when you hear a clip like that?

00:18:58.000 Well, first off, I have to say that.

00:19:00.000 I remember the first time that Charlie Kirk interviewed me.

00:19:04.000 It was just so special.

00:19:06.000 I just feel so sad to come to his show without him.

00:19:09.000 But thank you for carrying it on.

00:19:11.000 We must carry it on.

00:19:13.000 Yes.

00:19:13.000 Yes, I heard that.

00:19:14.000 I watched that and I've been watching him.

00:19:17.000 And he is absolutely a communist without understanding what communism is really about.

00:19:24.000 He has no understanding of Mao, he has no understanding and no knowledge of what Mao has done.

00:19:32.000 The great leader, so called great leader.

00:19:35.000 And I lived through, I spent the first 26 years under Mao.

00:19:40.000 And I guess you want to know my story.

00:19:42.000 Yes.

00:19:44.000 Yeah.

00:19:44.000 I mean, so you lived through this.

00:19:46.000 You survived this quote unquote great leader who transformed the universe and the planet.

00:19:52.000 How did he transform China, Zhi?

00:19:55.000 What did he do that made him such a great leader?

00:19:58.000 I'm curious.

00:19:59.000 I know, I know, exactly.

00:20:00.000 I was born in 1959, and that was the year that began the first three years of famine, the Great Famine that killed up to 50 million Chinese peasants. 0.99

00:20:17.000 Those peasants who want free stuff. 1.00

00:20:20.000 Yes.

00:20:20.000 And when I was seven, that was the beginning of the Cultural Revolution.

00:20:27.000 In the process, it lasted for 10 years.

00:20:29.000 And in the process, up to 20 million people lost their lives.

00:20:33.000 And I saw part of it.

00:20:35.000 And I, as a little schoolgirl, I lost two years of my education because school was closed. 0.70

00:20:42.000 And I saw the Red Guards destroy everything, the heritage of our civilization.

00:20:48.000 And then, when I graduate from high school, there's nothing for young people like me.

00:20:53.000 So, we're all sent to the countryside to work in the fields to get the so called re education from the peasants. 0.81

00:21:01.000 It is the best way to describe it as school up.

00:21:04.000 I spent three years there.

00:21:07.000 Also, I experienced starvation and scarcity.

00:21:14.000 Everything is rationed, even toothpaste.

00:21:18.000 But what Piker doesn't know is that.

00:21:22.000 Mao killed more communists than any communist leaders.

00:21:28.000 He had no idea.

00:21:29.000 And the whole Cultural Revolution is CCP's version of Inquisition.

00:21:35.000 He targeted the entire party of his own party and to take them down.

00:21:43.000 And even the leader, even the father of the current great leader, Xi Jinping, his father was purged.

00:21:52.000 His family was persecuted.

00:21:54.000 His half sister committed suicide because she could not deal with this persecution.

00:22:04.000 He had no idea.

00:22:05.000 And Mao killed more Chinese communists than anyone in the world.

00:22:12.000 You say he doesn't know. 0.80

00:22:14.000 Maybe he would disagree or not know on killing communists.

00:22:18.000 But I think a lot of the appeal of a figure like Mao to someone like Hassan Piker is the body count.

00:22:24.000 They actually do, they totally lean into that these figures.

00:22:27.000 Were authoritarian, that they killed huge numbers of people. 0.68

00:22:31.000 The reason we're talking about this is not just that was a stream where he was talking about he won't criticize Mao, but Hassan.

00:22:37.000 He just spoke to a dinner of college Democrats and he made a very conscious fashion choice you won't usually see in the United States.

00:22:45.000 Let's play clip number eight.

00:22:48.000 No more to Trumpism, but no more to the Democrats who compromise, who conciliate and who betray us.

00:22:56.000 No more to the fascist reactionaries, but no more to the Democrats who will collaborate And cooperate with the fascists, who will fund ICE, who will fund Israel, who will help poison the planet, who will stiff workers and help bosses.

00:23:09.000 We don't need those Democrats anymore.

00:23:13.000 So, there, while he's talking, no compromise with any moderate Democrats. 0.71

00:23:18.000 They're as bad as the fascists, as he calls them, because they'll support Israel, because they'll support ICE, or they'll fund ICE, they'll allow people to be deported. 0.98

00:23:27.000 They're all the enemy. 0.96

00:23:28.000 And while he's saying that, if you couldn't see it, he's wearing the Sun Yat sen suit, the out. 0.70

00:23:34.000 That Mao wears in every image of him, and that they still wear in communist China today.

00:23:39.000 I think he's well aware of what he's advocating for his country.

00:23:42.000 This is something he doesn't know.

00:23:44.000 Yes, but he doesn't know that he will be the first one to go.

00:23:47.000 Why? 0.91

00:23:48.000 Because he's so damn opinionated and he's rich. 0.94

00:23:52.000 He will be the first one to go. 0.90

00:23:54.000 And that's something that he doesn't know.

00:23:57.000 And of course, they don't know.

00:23:59.000 Of course, his followers don't know because our educational system has been taken over by Marxists.

00:24:05.000 They know everything about Hitler, about fascism.

00:24:09.000 They don't know that communism and fascism and Nazism is the same thing.

00:24:16.000 And also, socialism, communism, no difference.

00:24:20.000 Just a matter of stage.

00:24:23.000 And we were told when I grew up that socialism is this initial stage of communism.

00:24:31.000 You know, I find it interesting, though, that same through line that you said Mao killed a bunch of communists.

00:24:37.000 And you're saying he'd be the first one to go. 0.82

00:24:39.000 I totally get it.

00:24:41.000 But you see that same spirit being animated in him, this animal passion for wanting to.

00:24:48.000 First, tear down anybody in the ranks that don't pass his purity test.

00:24:53.000 And I have to believe that that was the same spirit animating Mao's brutal carnage within his own communist ranks.

00:25:01.000 That if you do not meet my purity test, you're gone.

00:25:04.000 Or if you become a problem to me, you're gone.

00:25:06.000 And this is why I said on social media last night that Hassan Piker, if given the power or anybody like him, wants us dead, they would get rid of us.

00:25:19.000 In a second, because we would stand up to them trying to seize the means of production.

00:25:23.000 Am I missing this?

00:25:25.000 It's power.

00:25:25.000 It's all about power.

00:25:27.000 Exactly.

00:25:28.000 And that's what Xi Jinping has been saying.

00:25:31.000 If your loyalty to the party is not absolute, you are absolutely disloyal to the party.

00:25:38.000 Purity and absolute loyalty.

00:25:41.000 That's what they demand.

00:25:42.000 But the thing is, Xi Jinping is scared.

00:25:45.000 Xi Jinping, even though he has all the power, he suspects everyone around him.

00:25:51.000 To be disloyal.

00:25:52.000 He lives in such fear.

00:25:54.000 And that is the core of communism.

00:25:57.000 It is about power and it's about everyone will be a victim.

00:26:01.000 Even the highest leader will be a victim.

00:26:05.000 Yes.

00:26:07.000 I mean, I think it's important for us to emphasize because you can say, why are you guys highlighting a streamer where he says a nice thing about Mao?

00:26:15.000 Is this a big deal?

00:26:16.000 And we really need to drive this home.

00:26:18.000 There are a ton of people who are.

00:26:21.000 This guy is getting magazine profiles everywhere on the left.

00:26:24.000 He is a huge voice.

00:26:26.000 He's a huge voice for young leftists.

00:26:28.000 He's clearly representing the wave of the future for this party.

00:26:33.000 And what they are embracing is you can call it Maoism, you can call it communism, you can call it third worldism, but it's a much more culturally arsonist way of viewing the entire West that they want to, they're gloating that they're going to tear everything down.

00:26:50.000 They're gloating about who they'll put in their place.

00:26:52.000 Listen to his list of endorsements.

00:26:54.000 Adam Hamaway in New Jersey, 12.

00:26:58.000 Abdul El Sayed, who's running for U.S. Senate in Michigan.

00:27:02.000 That's the man who had condolences about the Ayatollah's death, but he's attacked his opponent for voting on a resolution to honor Charlie.

00:27:13.000 Yep.

00:27:15.000 Claire Valdez and Chevalier, New York House races, DSA backed.

00:27:20.000 These are people that have openly supported the destruction of the West, the destruction of America.

00:27:27.000 So, Tom Steyer, Nithya Raman in California, the far left candidates.

00:27:32.000 So, this is not some history lesson that doesn't relate to our current moment.

00:27:37.000 No, it relates very well because these terrible ideas are being recycled in our current moment.

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00:28:44.000 So, Zhi, you are. 0.79

00:28:46.000 I want to actually plug your book here really quick.

00:28:48.000 It's Made in America, Zhi Van Fleet, The Hidden History of How the U.S. Enabled Communist China and Created Our Greatest Threat.

00:28:57.000 So, you are a prolific author as well as many things. 0.89

00:29:01.000 You're doing such a good job of telling this story so that we are not doomed to repeat the history of Communist China and so many other authoritarian regimes.

00:29:12.000 I got to get through this point, though, because this is what we're seeing play out.

00:29:15.000 Charlie used to always say, What happens on campus doesn't stay on campus.

00:29:18.000 It bleeds into corporate boardrooms and the halls of Congress, and we're seeing that right now.

00:29:23.000 And I want to talk about this long march through the institutions that communists have been engaging upon in this country.

00:29:29.000 SOT 23, this is a congressional hearing that's happened this morning, and we're seeing this play out right now.

00:29:34.000 SOT 23.

00:29:37.000 Dr. Blight, when people see the warning signs that you mentioned, why is it important that they speak up and take action?

00:29:44.000 Well, it's important because if the people don't stand up, they lose these institutions. 0.97

00:29:49.000 And as you just suggested, the black world came to America for the World Cup.

00:29:55.000 I wonder if people notice that the world is black and brown, and the teams from European countries were black and brown.

00:30:04.000 So they're talking about basically the museums, the institutions, and how they're fighting back against what they call President Trump's propaganda within the Smithsonian, and they're noticing that it's the authoritarian tendencies of President Trump.

00:30:23.000 What is the actual truth here?

00:30:25.000 Givan Fleet, about what has happened to America's cultural institutions, our educational institutions over the last four to five decades.

00:30:34.000 It's the Long March Soul Institution.

00:30:36.000 It's the Marxist takeover of this country, one institution at a time.

00:30:41.000 And they started with higher education, they started with university.

00:30:44.000 And when they control university, they control this country because they have been producing generations of Marxists.

00:30:51.000 Where are they now?

00:30:52.000 They are in control of our institution, especially.

00:30:56.000 The Smithsonian Institution.

00:30:58.000 They control all the museums and historical sites.

00:31:03.000 And lately, for America's 250th anniversary, I visited many historical sites, especially Monticello.

00:31:11.000 You go there, if you don't know anything about Jefferson, you walk away with this idea that what an awful man he is.

00:31:23.000 And he is a slave owner, and that's pretty much all you get.

00:31:28.000 Yeah, no, exactly. 0.60

00:31:29.000 Jasmine Crockett had to weigh in here, G. Van Fleet.

00:31:33.000 She's sounding the same note, SOT 24.

00:31:36.000 So, Dr. Blight, if Republicans are going to ban books, penalize schools and universities, attack museums, if states continue to change curriculum, where do Americans go to learn about the complicated, sometimes racist, and violent parts of American history?

00:31:54.000 Thank you for the question.

00:31:56.000 I think they will have to keep going to the same institutions, and we have to keep fighting to preserve what we are doing in those institutions.

00:32:04.000 They have to keep going to public schools.

00:32:05.000 They have to keep going to their public libraries.

00:32:07.000 They have to keep going to the great Smithsonian.

00:32:11.000 Americans have to keep going to those places they trust.

00:32:17.000 We have to keep those institutions trustworthy.

00:32:22.000 Okay, so they're only trustworthy, G, to your point, if they talk about our racist, quote, racist and violent past.

00:32:31.000 And they're accusing us of banning books, of penalizing schools and universities.

00:32:37.000 Why is it that they feel so entitled to these things, and why is it so important to them that they capture them?

00:32:43.000 Yeah, because if you control the institution, you really control the narrative and you control how people learn of our past.

00:32:51.000 This is an absolute rewriting of the past.

00:32:55.000 That's exactly what Mao did.

00:32:58.000 When I grew up, no idea what China looked like before the CCK.

00:33:03.000 And they used this term, the old society, and described it as something just so hellish.

00:33:10.000 That I should feel so grateful that now I live under CCP because this is what they call a new society.

00:33:17.000 And then what they do the same thing America's past is slavery, and that slavery never died.

00:33:23.000 We never had a civil war, we never had a civil rights movement.

00:33:26.000 The slavery is still today, it's still here.

00:33:29.000 And that's what enslaved so many people's minds.

00:33:32.000 They feel like they are still slaves.

00:33:34.000 That is absolutely the purpose to control their mind.

00:33:38.000 That's such a good point.

00:33:40.000 They have to castigate and shame and demoralize.

00:33:44.000 Us as a civilization and a country that has, I would argue, the proudest history of any modern country in the world, maybe throughout all of human history.

00:33:53.000 And that's what makes the challenge so difficult for them.

00:33:57.000 But they're succeeding in these crazy ways that you would have never imagined.

00:34:01.000 And the fruit of it is Hassan Piker.

00:34:03.000 The fruit of it is Chevalier. 0.98

00:34:05.000 The fruit of it is Nithya Rahman.

00:34:07.000 The rise of DSA.

00:34:09.000 What is your warning to the country as you see these DSA candidates actually gain political power, G?

00:34:16.000 What is your warning?

00:34:18.000 And I have one thing I will really add.

00:34:21.000 This is something very important. 0.98

00:34:23.000 In the past, we really talk a lot about cultural Marxism, like the Long March through institutions, because they failed to implement the economic Marxism because the working class did not buy their bullshit. 0.83

00:34:36.000 The working class actually get richer, they become middle class.

00:34:40.000 So, but recently they have been bringing up this class struggle. 0.80

00:34:43.000 They have been bringing up this economic Marxism as well.

00:34:47.000 I think it's because The Democratic Party, the left, have successfully created American proletariat through the welfare policy.

00:34:59.000 They have generations of people who depend on the government, who never get ahead because that's the plan.

00:35:04.000 You never get ahead. 0.66

00:35:05.000 Now we imported tens of millions of illegals. 1.00

00:35:09.000 Now they join the group called proletariat. 0.91

00:35:14.000 That's why now they are doing both cultural Marxism and economic Marxism. 0.86

00:35:19.000 And I think that's something we should.

00:35:23.000 Yeah.

00:35:23.000 Really, really weird.

00:35:26.000 Yeah.

00:35:26.000 Zhi Van Fleet, author of Made in America, The Hidden History of How the US Enabled Communist China and Created Our Greatest Threat.

00:35:35.000 Thank you, Zhi Van Fleet.

00:35:36.000 You're such a tremendous asset in this fight against the rise of far left radicalism.

00:35:43.000 We appreciate you so much.

00:35:44.000 Thank you so much.

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00:37:13.000 We have a special guest in studio with us today, and that is Colin Plume, CEO of Noble Gold Investments.

00:37:19.000 NobleGoldInvestments.com.

00:37:21.000 Colin, welcome back.

00:37:22.000 Good to be here.

00:37:23.000 Love it.

00:37:24.000 Excited.

00:37:25.000 We need economic touch points from time to time because there's just so many moving parts in an economy this large, but also geopolitically.

00:37:36.000 There's The energy prices.

00:37:38.000 I mean, there's a lot that's going on that's influencing a very dynamic and volatile economy, actually, in many ways.

00:37:46.000 And so you're here today.

00:37:48.000 I have to start, though, because you are the gold guy.

00:37:51.000 You're the silver guy.

00:37:51.000 You're actually probably more famous as the silver guy, but you do probably maybe even more in gold.

00:37:56.000 I don't know what it is.

00:37:57.000 You tell me.

00:37:57.000 They do have gold in the name.

00:37:59.000 Yeah, no gold investment.

00:38:00.000 So I guess people assume, but you also wrote a book about silver.

00:38:03.000 So you're good at both, put it that way.

00:38:05.000 So gold is down.

00:38:07.000 It's on sale.

00:38:08.000 Silver is down.

00:38:09.000 Yes.

00:38:10.000 Yeah, correct.

00:38:10.000 First of all, yeah, I totally agree, actually, because there was a.

00:38:13.000 Okay, so two part question.

00:38:16.000 What caused the run up?

00:38:17.000 Yeah.

00:38:18.000 And what's driving this current price dip?

00:38:22.000 Yeah, I think first was inflation.

00:38:25.000 You know, people saw inflation hit numbers they'd never seen before.

00:38:29.000 You saw massive demand, central bank buying demand, which is still continued.

00:38:33.000 But we're seeing, I mean, this demand from central banks has gone for six years in a row where they're.

00:38:39.000 You know, they've bought about a thousand tons of gold per year.

00:38:42.000 To give you an idea, for five years before that, central banks bought between 250 and 300 tons.

00:38:48.000 So they tripled in the last six years of buying.

00:38:51.000 And really, per year?

00:38:52.000 Per year.

00:38:53.000 And a lot of it has to do with them getting away from the dollar.

00:38:58.000 Also, it's become an alternative currency for countries with sanctions, right?

00:39:03.000 We've seen it happen with Russia, we're seeing it with Iran.

00:39:06.000 So there is, you know, that is the angle around some of the sanctions.

00:39:11.000 is to trade oil for gold.

00:39:13.000 So, you saw that dynamic happen.

00:39:15.000 So, you saw this massive run up for gold where it was $5,300 an ounce.

00:39:21.000 Silver was $120 an ounce.

00:39:23.000 And then you saw a massive pullback in February and March.

00:39:28.000 And you saw the most selling of paper gold than we've ever seen in the market GLD, SLD, the paper forms.

00:39:36.000 The most selling.

00:39:37.000 How does that work, by the way?

00:39:38.000 So, you get a paper certificate and the gold is stored in some vault somewhere.

00:39:42.000 Well, that's what's supposed to happen.

00:39:43.000 What, what, what?

00:39:44.000 What's been happening is last year, people actually wanted delivery.

00:39:48.000 And that was another reason the price went up.

00:39:50.000 And there's tons of articles about this, but basically, people decided, you know what?

00:39:54.000 I don't want the contract.

00:39:56.000 I want physical.

00:39:57.000 They went to the London Exchange and went to COMAX.

00:39:59.000 They wanted it and they couldn't deliver.

00:40:01.000 And that created more hysteria and excitement because they basically said, it's going to be two months.

00:40:06.000 Well, people thought their gold was backed ounce for ounce, right?

00:40:09.000 Like one contract per, but it's never been.

00:40:12.000 It's always been that way.

00:40:13.000 It's always been the suppression of the gold price.

00:40:15.000 So there was this run up till January.

00:40:18.000 And then you saw in March, April, and May just a massive paper selling, GLD, SLV.

00:40:25.000 People got out of positions, hedge fund managers, people that were in positions they wanted to get out of.

00:40:30.000 You just saw this massive liquidation.

00:40:31.000 Now, the interesting thing is on the physical side, you didn't see it.

00:40:35.000 We didn't see it.

00:40:36.000 The industry didn't see massive amounts of selling.

00:40:39.000 It was really just the paper selling, which does affect the price.

00:40:44.000 So you had the price go back down.

00:40:45.000 So now gold's below 4,000 and you have silver blue.

00:40:49.000 Below 60.

00:40:50.000 Obviously, silver is having a great day today.

00:40:52.000 It's up over $2 today.

00:40:53.000 Gold's up pretty massive today, too.

00:40:55.000 But it's sort of what happens in the gold market you have these massive runoffs based on news, and then there was this leveling off.

00:41:03.000 And then I think the last thing that maybe has hurt the gold price, but I don't think it's true, is this idea that Kevin Walsh maybe is going to be hawkish.

00:41:10.000 I think a lot of people have been talking about that, that he's going to raise interest rates potentially or he's not going to expand the money supply.

00:41:17.000 I think he is going to expand the money supply.

00:41:20.000 If he expands the money supply, what happens to that?

00:41:23.000 Would be very positive for gold.

00:41:25.000 I think how he's coming into this job, this is a massive job.

00:41:29.000 And right now, with the CPI going up, what are his levers?

00:41:34.000 What can he do?

00:41:36.000 If he everyone says he's going to raise interest rates, if he raises interest rates, it costs our government more money to borrow.

00:41:41.000 That's not good for us either.

00:41:43.000 It also affects the real estate market, also commercial real estate, residential, all everything would really be hindered by higher rates.

00:41:51.000 That's not what we need right now in the economy.

00:41:53.000 So, what are the other levers that he can do?

00:41:55.000 And so, in my opinion, I've been saying it for a while, is I think he'll do some type of quantitative easing to open up the money supply to get the markets moving, which is what we did in 2009.

00:42:04.000 Similar idea, right?

00:42:06.000 We had a credit crisis.

00:42:07.000 How do you get more money in the markets?

00:42:08.000 How do you stimulate without moving interest rates?

00:42:11.000 So, that's one lever that he can do.

00:42:13.000 So, if the gold market sees increased money supply and they say, you know, more supply on the market, that means the value of the average dollar is going down.

00:42:23.000 Going down, correct.

00:42:23.000 So, therefore, the price of gold will go up.

00:42:25.000 Yeah, correct.

00:42:26.000 And so that's the real question is what's going to happen over the next few weeks?

00:42:30.000 So I think you've had all these things happening that have pushed the price of gold down, but we're seeing a lot of normalcy in the trading range now, where you're seeing buyers in the 3,900.

00:42:40.000 That's becoming kind of the normal.

00:42:42.000 Obviously, there's always the risk you go down to 3,600, 3,700.

00:42:45.000 But you see institutions like Bank of America came out earlier, sir.

00:42:49.000 They were predicting, they've had analysts saying $300 silver in January, and now we're at 58.

00:42:56.000 So I think we're in more of a normal range now.

00:42:58.000 We went to like I think it leveled off.

00:43:02.000 And now we'll see what takes place.

00:43:04.000 Maybe this is a basic question.

00:43:05.000 Why do gold and silver seem to perform?

00:43:07.000 They're aligned, but they do perform differently.

00:43:10.000 Yeah.

00:43:10.000 Even though they're both primarily investment metals, to my understanding.

00:43:14.000 So, why would silver go up to 300, which would be tripling its price, while gold is not usually.

00:43:20.000 Silver is used in a lot of technology.

00:43:22.000 It is.

00:43:23.000 So is gold.

00:43:23.000 Yeah.

00:43:24.000 Yeah.

00:43:24.000 I mean, I think there's, first of all, silver you have to think about is all the potential with war.

00:43:29.000 I mean, the reason our government last year, the U.S. government and the Chinese government made silver a strategic metal is because with these expanding.

00:43:39.000 Uh, areas of war that we're going to use silver in tomahawk missiles and a lot of technology, drones, all this.

00:43:46.000 So, as these things continue to grow, the U.S. government needs it, the Chinese government needs it.

00:43:51.000 So, when they make a strategic metal, they're saying, like, we're going to limit the amount that we're going to get rid of, we're going to keep as much as we can.

00:43:58.000 Um, and and we've you know, the government has borrowed and seized silver over history in 1942.

00:44:06.000 We were running out of copper during World War II, as you know, they borrowed 14,000 ounces from the U.S. Treasury for silver for.

00:44:13.000 Military type uses.

00:44:16.000 So I think that production is going to continue to go.

00:44:18.000 But to answer your question, I think when you have six years of central bank buying of gold, silver did lag.

00:44:25.000 Silver did eventually lag.

00:44:27.000 But what eventually would happen is that once we realized that there are so many strategic uses that we needed for silver, then you saw the price start to go back up.

00:44:37.000 There's always that 100 to 1, you know, 80 to 1, 71 gold to silver ratio that we've talked about a lot.

00:44:42.000 And it's, you know, we're in a different range than we've been.

00:44:46.000 But I think that silver typically lags behind gold.

00:44:49.000 Okay, so we got 45 seconds here.

00:44:53.000 Predictions for interest rates in the next six months, predictions for the price of gold, those two.

00:45:00.000 Yeah, I actually don't think he's going to have any way to do anything with interest rates, in my opinion.

00:45:05.000 I don't think he's going to raise.

00:45:06.000 I think that would really crush a lot of the markets and it would make our borrowing more expensive.

00:45:11.000 I think gold this year, I would say probably close to 4,800, 4,900 for gold.

00:45:16.000 And I would say silver probably breaks, I would say probably close to 70 this year.

00:45:22.000 I think there's going to be a big run.

00:45:23.000 The current price of silver is 59.13.

00:45:26.000 Yeah, so I think a 70 silver is a realistic range.

00:45:30.000 The buying seems to be pretty.

00:45:32.000 And we're seeing a lot of people that sold at 120 silver and 5,400 gold are coming back in.

00:45:38.000 So I think you're going to see a lot of people buy the dip.

00:45:40.000 They took their profits.

00:45:41.000 Now they're going to reinvest it.

00:45:42.000 Yeah.

00:45:43.000 I love that.

00:45:44.000 Blake, what do you got there in your hand?

00:45:45.000 This is.

00:45:46.000 Is that a World Cup trophy?

00:45:47.000 Not quite.

00:45:48.000 It is one.

00:45:49.000 Kilogram of gold.

00:45:52.000 So it's very heavy.

00:45:54.000 Colin always does this to us.

00:45:55.000 He brings us these bamboo sauce, this bullion, but he doesn't let us keep it.

00:46:00.000 It's very frustrating.

00:46:02.000 But it is beautiful.

00:46:03.000 I will tell you.

00:46:04.000 It is.

00:46:05.000 When you actually see it and hold it up close, you understand why the ancients all gravitated to gold.

00:46:14.000 They do.

00:46:14.000 A kilo is not a lot.

00:46:15.000 It's really amazing.

00:46:16.000 That's like one of the weights that Obama's lifting in the funny video of him, but it feels a lot heavier when it's that dense.

00:46:22.000 There's five times as much of this in that World Cup trophy.

00:46:25.000 Well, yeah, let's talk about this.

00:46:26.000 So, how much is the World Cup trophy worth?

00:46:30.000 And they say gold value has soared, although it is down in the last six months.

00:46:34.000 It's up year over year.

00:46:35.000 Yeah.

00:46:35.000 So, compared to the first World Cup, the first World Cup, or not the first, the last World Cup, the trophy was worth like, I don't know, $200,000 or $250,000.

00:46:47.000 And now the trophy is worth like $700,000, $800,000.

00:46:51.000 It's almost a million dollars that's being held up in the hands right there.

00:46:54.000 Which is, yeah, and Trump was holding it.

00:46:56.000 You know, he loves that.

00:46:57.000 Yeah, Trump put, yeah, he was, he's going to walk away with that.

00:46:59.000 Yeah.

00:47:00.000 So do they get to keep it?

00:47:02.000 They do not get to keep it.

00:47:04.000 It is actually fascinating.

00:47:05.000 You'd think, like, all the money made.

00:47:08.000 They said it was the most profitable sporting event.

00:47:11.000 $18 billion injected in the economy.

00:47:13.000 All time.

00:47:14.000 Like, what's $780,000 to the winning country?

00:47:18.000 It feels like they should get it.

00:47:19.000 But no, FIFA gets it back.

00:47:23.000 And then they get a replica.

00:47:24.000 They get a replica.

00:47:26.000 That's obscene.

00:47:27.000 So, replica, is it at least also made of gold?

00:47:30.000 No.

00:47:30.000 Can they get like a plastic one?

00:47:32.000 No, no.

00:47:32.000 It's probably a plastic one.

00:47:33.000 They get like one of my youth soccer trophies.

00:47:35.000 It's made of gold tin.

00:47:36.000 Plastic.

00:47:37.000 That's all it is.

00:47:38.000 All right.

00:47:39.000 So that's a fascinating bit of trivia there.

00:47:42.000 But so did you have.

00:47:44.000 Well, I was going to ask.

00:47:45.000 So we were talking about people are increasingly getting delivery of gold, of silver.

00:47:49.000 They're wanting to physically claim it.

00:47:51.000 Someone I know, I was telling you about, they were investing in gold and then they discovered they were talking to a friend who was a jeweler.

00:48:01.000 Not with us.

00:48:01.000 Not with you.

00:48:02.000 Yes.

00:48:02.000 Not with you.

00:48:03.000 They were looking at it.

00:48:04.000 And this was gold that was in the case, like one of those Perth Mint ounces.

00:48:08.000 And our jeweler friend looks at it and says, That's fake.

00:48:11.000 And they tested it and it turned out it was plated tungsten.

00:48:15.000 Yeah.

00:48:16.000 So, what do people need to look out for?

00:48:18.000 What are the traps people can fall into?

00:48:19.000 Yeah, no, I mean, I think it's you got to go, you got to read the reviews of the dealer.

00:48:24.000 You know, you got to make sure that they've been around for a long time.

00:48:26.000 You got to make sure that I think that's interesting that I'm finding over the last two years with dealers going out of business.

00:48:31.000 If a dealer says they won't buy it back, probably this is a huge story, though, because, yeah, finish your thought there.

00:48:39.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:48:40.000 So, my, so, A, they've been around for a while.

00:48:44.000 B, if the price is too good to be true, it probably is.

00:48:46.000 That's, I mean, sometimes on eBay, you hear these like, oh, I bought it $300 below the spot price.

00:48:51.000 Like, well, it's probably fake.

00:48:53.000 And you said, make sure they're willing to buy it back.

00:48:55.000 Make sure they're willing to buy it.

00:48:57.000 Yeah.

00:48:57.000 If they won't buy it back, that's probably an indication.

00:49:00.000 And I take it you're willing to buy it back.

00:49:01.000 We buy everything back.

00:49:02.000 Well, let's say this is informal, like it's a friend who has, you know, maybe they inherited it or something and they're willing to sell it off.

00:49:10.000 What should a person like that do to make sure they don't accidentally?

00:49:13.000 Yeah.

00:49:14.000 I think the key.

00:49:15.000 Accidentally sell it for the wrong price or no, or accidentally buy a fake, like maybe the person doesn't know it's fake themselves.

00:49:21.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:49:22.000 I think the key you, if you buy it from a coin or pawn shop, they can test it right there.

00:49:26.000 Okay, so that you could get it tested and you should before you take it out of it.

00:49:29.000 That would be the first thing.

00:49:30.000 Um, you know, obviously, a dealer like us, we're shipping millions and millions of dollars and we get everything tested.

00:49:35.000 I mentioned we do buy back from time to time from other people that aren't our clients and we do get fakes in.

00:49:42.000 Fortunately, we have to call them and tell them that they're fake, but they know. 0.99

00:49:45.000 You know, they're trying to sell us fake shit. 1.00

00:49:46.000 Man, I hadn't even thought about this. 0.99

00:49:47.000 Yeah, it's a part of the business you have to be wary of.

00:49:50.000 But you were mentioning in the break that one of the big brand names in this, Roslyn Capital.

00:49:55.000 Roslyn Capital went out of business?

00:49:57.000 Yeah, it went out of business, yeah.

00:49:58.000 What happened?

00:49:59.000 Yeah, listen, it's a $100 million bankruptcy.

00:50:03.000 And you can go online and read about it.

00:50:05.000 And it's terrible what's happened because the biggest creditors on the bankruptcy are clients, unfortunately.

00:50:13.000 And they're people that this person just didn't deliver.

00:50:16.000 He never delivered on.

00:50:18.000 And it happens a lot because what happens in a rising market is that you see a company try to play the market and they're floating.

00:50:28.000 There's a lot of floating.

00:50:29.000 And so sometimes I talk to people and they're like, oh, they haven't delivered in 60 days, or they have.

00:50:34.000 There's no reason that you should take 60 days.

00:50:38.000 I mean, we're shipping the same week.

00:50:40.000 Sometimes I can ship the next day.

00:50:43.000 There's no reason it should take that long.

00:50:45.000 I would be concerned.

00:50:46.000 If anybody's telling you, or if you're about to do a trade and they're like, it's going to take six weeks or eight weeks, they're holding your money and they're playing the market and they're trying to time the market.

00:50:56.000 They're trying to play catch up.

00:50:57.000 Play catch up until somebody lost.

00:50:59.000 Yeah.

00:51:00.000 And listen, I don't know the whole story with that company, but yeah, they were in business since 2008.

00:51:06.000 They were all over Fox News, William Devane.

00:51:09.000 Yeah.

00:51:09.000 Fox News is actually one of the creditors.

00:51:12.000 They're in for like $2 million owed, like on TV commercials or unpaid.

00:51:17.000 There's a bunch of other advertising companies, but yeah, it's. 0.98

00:51:20.000 Well, this is why we work with you because, you know, when we started the show, it was like so many shysters.

00:51:27.000 Like, people don't realize that when we launched the Charlie Kirk show, there was all these, like, People that were like, Oh, we want to partner with you.

00:51:34.000 We want to partner with you.

00:51:36.000 And we had to like filter through like a ton of noise.

00:51:39.000 And, you know, that's when we found you and we're so grateful.

00:51:42.000 So you've been with us like basically since the very beginning and super grateful.

00:51:47.000 So if you want to check out what Colin does, noblegoldinvestments.com slash Kirk, noblegoldinvestments.com slash Kirk.

00:51:54.000 I just want to get that in shameless plug because all we're talking about just fake gold, Perth, fake ounces, and like bankrupt.

00:52:03.000 Like this, Colin does.

00:52:05.000 Business the right way.

00:52:06.000 So, I, but I did, I did want to bring up this one other thing.

00:52:09.000 The Treasury unveils US Mint 1776 to 2026 $1 coin.

00:52:15.000 This is, this is like new coin news.

00:52:17.000 This is, this is the, this is the, this is the, this is the, this is not a golden coin.

00:52:21.000 This is, this is like a zinc coin.

00:52:23.000 It's copper, possibly copper.

00:52:24.000 Yeah.

00:52:25.000 It's, it's, it's a commemorative coin.

00:52:28.000 I think it'll be worth money for sure.

00:52:30.000 People will buy it and they'll sell it.

00:52:32.000 I think it's really fun.

00:52:34.000 But don't mistake this for actually having gold in it.

00:52:39.000 I hope maybe they will.

00:52:40.000 Maybe the demand will be high and they'll release like a gold version.

00:52:43.000 Yeah, a gold version or a silver version of it would be really great.

00:52:47.000 I think they should absolutely do it.

00:52:50.000 But that is plated.

00:52:52.000 And there's a lot of stuff out where people don't realize there's advertising where they'll say like 24 karat gold and then the coin will be like $50.

00:53:01.000 It's maybe has plate.

00:53:03.000 Like we were talking about how with food they put gold on top.

00:53:06.000 Like that's what you're buying.

00:53:07.000 If you want to buy the real thing, that's what we do.

00:53:09.000 That's what we focus on.

00:53:12.000 I didn't expect the conversation going this direction, but like underscore big bold letters, bright font, highlighted.

00:53:20.000 Please go with people that you can trust when you're getting into this space.

00:53:23.000 It's a really important space.

00:53:26.000 Hedge against inflation, the de dollarization movement.

00:53:29.000 You've got to diversify your portfolio if you have any type of money, if you get any type of liquid assets.

00:53:36.000 It's a great thing to do.

00:53:37.000 You've got to go with people you can trust.

00:53:39.000 This is terrifying to hear this stuff.

00:53:41.000 So, noblegoldinvestments.comslash Kirk.

00:53:44.000 You can trust Colin.

00:53:45.000 Absolutely.

00:53:45.000 We've been with you for years and you always have shot us straight.

00:53:50.000 You bring all this beautiful gold that you don't want to see.

00:53:52.000 That silver bar right there is our promo bar right there for IRAs.

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00:53:58.000 So if you do an IRA with us, that's what you're going to get delivered to your doorstep for free.

00:54:03.000 Check it out.

00:54:03.000 Colin, thanks for coming in.

00:54:04.000 Yeah, thanks, man.

00:54:08.000 If you could go back in time and buy oil before the world relied on it, would you?

00:54:12.000 Of course you would.

00:54:13.000 Anybody would.

00:54:14.000 So why aren't you buying silver right now?

00:54:17.000 People who recognized oil early didn't just make money.

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00:55:08.000 All right, Blake, take us away.

00:55:09.000 All righty.

00:55:10.000 Well, as Charlie likes to say, never black pill, no matter how bad it gets.

00:55:14.000 You can't black pill, which is, of course, when you get dispirited about things and decide it's all over and we can't win.

00:55:21.000 You never accept that.

00:55:22.000 And that's one reason Charlie was able to achieve so much.

00:55:25.000 He wouldn't black pill.

00:55:26.000 And we have another person joining us now with a similar message.

00:55:29.000 He's the author of a book that is called White Pill, which is the opposite of black pilling.

00:55:34.000 And he's also an old colleague of mine when I was at the Daily Caller a decade ago.

00:55:39.000 Don't age Scott.

00:55:40.000 That's awesome.

00:55:41.000 Well, sorry, I just can't help myself.

00:55:43.000 So his name is Scott Greer.

00:55:45.000 He's the author of the highly respected Substack.

00:55:48.000 And he is also the author of White Pill, which is from our friends at Passage Publishing with Lomez.

00:55:53.000 And he joins us now.

00:55:54.000 Scott, welcome.

00:55:56.000 What is the White Pill for all of our viewers?

00:56:00.000 Well, the white pill offered by my book is something to discuss about how the transformation of conservatism has happened.

00:56:06.000 If we go back 10 years ago, 15 years ago, conservatism was extremely different from what it is today.

00:56:12.000 It was focused on what I call business first republicanism.

00:56:16.000 It was more focused on Paul Ryanism.

00:56:19.000 It did not care about the cultural or civilizational issues that the right now focuses on and the Trump administration now focuses on and that Turning Point USA and Charlie Kirk focus on.

00:56:28.000 It was obsessed with Fiscal conservatism, more wars, more unnecessary things that only matter to corporate donors rather than matter to the base.

00:56:39.000 And so my book aims to describe how conservatism changed over the last decade.

00:56:44.000 And it has many characters that would be familiar to your show, such as Charlie Kirk as being one of the instrumental figures in pushing the right in a more white pill direction, as they would say, and now being a more combative force that takes on the left on numerous controversial topics.

00:57:02.000 That conservatives in the past would have run away from, such as immigration, such as anti white racism.

00:57:09.000 Exactly.

00:57:09.000 And it's funny because it's such a personal story.

00:57:12.000 I remember, Andrew, we'd talk to Charlie, and sometimes people would bring up Charlie was more pro immigration in the past.

00:57:17.000 And he was so frank about it.

00:57:18.000 He'd say, That was bad Charlie.

00:57:20.000 That was old Charlie.

00:57:21.000 And his views evolved in a positive direction.

00:57:24.000 He was very frank about that.

00:57:25.000 And I think it's because of what your book is about, Scott, which is I think it was a thought that was waiting to be spoken.

00:57:33.000 By Donald Trump on the campaign trail, but also in spaces online.

00:57:38.000 They just, people weren't hearing this from their leaders.

00:57:41.000 And so it was, the thought wasn't, it wasn't going through people's heads.

00:57:45.000 I remember specifically when Trump came down and started talking about immigration.

00:57:49.000 This was something that I had been pretty radicalized on for years, actually.

00:57:52.000 I was living in Southern California, seeing the chaos of a culture that had no through line and had no cohesiveness.

00:58:00.000 And I just remember thinking, you can't say these things.

00:58:02.000 So I guess we can't have them.

00:58:03.000 I guess we can't even fight for them because.

00:58:05.000 Nobody's going to stand up for them.

00:58:06.000 And then Trump, to Blake's point, stood up and said it, and at least an iteration of it.

00:58:12.000 It started the ball rolling.

00:58:13.000 And I remember just feeling this sense of relief that somebody finally said it, right?

00:58:17.000 That they're not sending their best, they're sending their rapists and all that stuff.

00:58:21.000 And I suppose some of them are good people.

00:58:22.000 A line he was so excoriated for and so attacked for, but it lit a fuse that I think, I still don't think it's fully formed yet, Scott.

00:58:31.000 Where in this journey are we?

00:58:33.000 Well, the journey we're now at is that when conservative politicians want to.

00:58:36.000 Demonstrate their conservative Buena Fides to demonstrate that they are the most right wing candidate.

00:58:41.000 What do they do?

00:58:42.000 They demand immigration restriction.

00:58:43.000 We saw that earlier this year when we had calls to repeal the Hard Cellar Act and impose a massive reduction in immigration.

00:58:52.000 And this is endorsed by Ron DeSantis, who has a good nose for knowing what's a good way to sell himself to the conservative public or knowing what the conservative base wants.

00:59:01.000 And in the past, the way, if you look at the Tea Party, what they thought is the most right-wing way to demonstrate themselves as the most conservative candidate was calling for cutting the Interior Department or something, or calling for some type of fiscal conservatism that didn't really animate the base and did not really capture what the public mood is or address the civilizational issues that threaten America.

00:59:26.000 But today they now go towards immigration.

00:59:29.000 And even though there are still rumblings over whenever a few backbench Republicans or a few notorious pro-immigration Republicans propose some new immigration bill or amnesty bill, they have very little chance of passing.

00:59:43.000 Unlike in 2013, where the entire Republican Party leadership says the only way the GOP can survive, and this was the purpose of the 2012 election autopsy the GOP put out that year of saying the only way we can survive.

00:59:58.000 Is if we pass amnesty, is if we legalize millions of illegal aliens.

01:00:03.000 This is the only way the party can survive in the future.

01:00:06.000 Donald Trump presented a different future for the party and that and that alternative won in 2016 and won in 2024.

01:00:18.000 The alternative that never won.

01:00:19.000 The alternative never animated the base and never captured the imagination of the American public, and because it did not address serious issues that ordinary people are facing, Which the new right does address these issues.

01:00:32.000 And so I think at the stance we're at now, conservative politicians, Republican politicians in the past would have even never dared talking about restricting legal immigration.

01:00:43.000 But in order to demonstrate that they are the most conservative, most right wing guy out there, they are all eager to say, we want to cut immigration.

01:00:50.000 And that's a huge positive element for the right. 0.64

01:00:53.000 I love that you mentioned that autopsy.

01:00:55.000 It's so easy for people to forget how bad things were in the past.

01:00:59.000 That, yeah, 13 years ago, Not that long in the grand scheme of things.

01:01:02.000 That was the line.

01:01:04.000 We need amnesty. 0.56

01:01:05.000 That is the only way we can win Hispanic voters and they're the future.

01:01:09.000 And so I love that you mentioned that because not only did we go a different path thanks to Donald Trump and others who led the way, we did it and we won more of the Hispanic vote than we'd ever won in recent history by doing that.

01:01:22.000 So the subtitle of your book is The Online Right and the Making of Trump's America.

01:01:29.000 That's what it is.

01:01:30.000 And so I remember when.

01:01:33.000 After the 2016 election, the left pretty accurately concluded Trump was able to win because of an uncensored Twitter that enabled people to hear his message, hear people supporting his message, even though TV was condemning him.

01:01:46.000 They cracked down on it.

01:01:47.000 They had a ton of censorship in 2020.

01:01:50.000 And then in 2022, Elon Musk buys Twitter, rebrands it as X.

01:01:54.000 We get a big reduction in censorship, and Trump is able to roar back.

01:01:58.000 How important is it for the new conservative movement to sustain itself that we have these low censorship?

01:02:06.000 Online spaces to share our message.

01:02:10.000 It's extremely important.

01:02:11.000 If you look back in the 2020 election, I mean, the liberals and Democrats were trying to ensure the election went a certain way.

01:02:19.000 And one of the ways that they made sure of that is tax censorship.

01:02:22.000 And even at that time, there could be random Trump tweets, and he was still president of the United States at this time.

01:02:28.000 And Twitter, which was what X was called back then, some may forget that, they would censor Trump posts.

01:02:36.000 They would censor Trump tweets.

01:02:37.000 There was even advertisements about illegal immigration that.

01:02:40.000 Facebook and others would say, this is fake news.

01:02:42.000 And then they would try to censor that.

01:02:43.000 Even think about how they suppressed the information around Hunter Biden's laptop, which all these so-called security experts came out to say, oh, this is Russian disinformation.

01:02:53.000 This is totally fake news when we all knew it was real.

01:02:56.000 But they utilized that talking point to then suppress talk and discussion about Hunter Biden's laptop.

01:03:03.000 So when you had censorship, it became very hard for the right to win.

01:03:08.000 And it became very hard for these ideas to get out there.

01:03:11.000 And after Trump won, there was this massive censorship wave.

01:03:15.000 All across social media because they didn't want this to repeat itself.

01:03:19.000 They did not want Trump to win another term.

01:03:22.000 They did not want someone like Trump to even have the chance of winning again.

01:03:27.000 But thanks to Elon Musk and buying up X, it set a new standard for tech and it allowed for more free speech to emerge and it countered censorship and it allowed Trump to win in 2024 despite the massive opposition towards him, despite all these legal cases against him.

01:03:47.000 despite all this outrage over January 6th and numerous other things that the liberal media had whipped up against Trump, he was able to win.

01:03:56.000 And no one would have predicted this in 2021.

01:03:58.000 It was been thought unthinkable that Trump could come back and win the presidency in 2024.

01:04:04.000 But he was able to do so by the new pro-free speech environment allowed by social media.

01:04:10.000 And that's why it's very important to combat censorship anywhere it can take place and to be very concerned if we try to go back to the late 2010s level of censorship.

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01:05:23.000 All right, Scott.

01:05:24.000 So you have your Substack is pretty widely read.

01:05:29.000 I know this because every time you publish an article, it ends up getting sent to me by one way or another.

01:05:36.000 And you've coined a term insane clown party, which I have to say feels really relevant.

01:05:44.000 There is this rise, and maybe it's not a rise.

01:05:49.000 Maybe from your POV, it's always been there.

01:05:53.000 I'm kind of still.

01:05:54.000 Coming to grips with it.

01:05:55.000 Obviously, we had Q and all these things.

01:05:58.000 And we have been lied to a lot, right?

01:05:59.000 COVID, Hunter Biden's laptop, things that were censored from us.

01:06:04.000 Where do you perceive the right being right now?

01:06:07.000 This new right, this online right, as far as its relationship with the facts, evidence, and proof?

01:06:14.000 You know, that's an interesting relationship they have with facts, evidence, and proof.

01:06:20.000 The internet does allow a lot of freedom, and it also allows people to invent their own reality, which the insane clown party.

01:06:26.000 Has done a fantastic job of inventing their own reality.

01:06:31.000 But it presents a very exciting way of showing the news.

01:06:36.000 If you go to the news and it's all data and polling and elections and that, that's not as exciting.

01:06:43.000 But imagine that if every part of the news is a new soap opera or a new spy thriller or even that there's a supernatural element, like this random murder might have been the work of some type of monster of some sort.

01:06:58.000 So they really like these ideas because it makes the news far more exciting.

01:07:02.000 And a lot of the audience loves that.

01:07:04.000 And one of the things, one of the challenges with alternative media or independent media.

01:07:09.000 Outside of the mainstream media, is that a lot of the audience wants you to challenge and question established narratives and the establishment itself, which is usually a good thing because, as you pointed out, with around COVID, around what they've said about immigration and numerous other issues, or if you look at how they portrayed the George Floyd revolution, there's a lot of reasons and a lot of ground to challenge them.

01:07:32.000 Totally agree.

01:07:32.000 But a lot of people want you to go further and create your own spy thriller out of every news item, or especially soap operas.

01:07:41.000 So, people get into this, and that really what their main concerns become is whether UFOs are controlling bridge destructions or what there might be some, you know, space lasers involved in wildfires in California.

01:07:57.000 That's always a big thing, which in the past, you know, if someone's blaming space lasers for wildfires, they'd be like, that's nuts.

01:08:04.000 But then if you go on X and if there's ever a wildfire going on, space lasers are at the top of the list of culprits.

01:08:12.000 It's even the same if there's a new hurricane afoot or some other.

01:08:16.000 Major natural disaster.

01:08:18.000 Weather machines are now a primary culprit for why this happened.

01:08:23.000 You even saw this last year in the tragic flooding that happened in Texas.

01:08:27.000 Everyone, you know, if you're going on X and social media, everyone's starting to blame the weather machines, which, you know, I don't think that would be the weather machine.

01:08:35.000 So it makes, but it makes the news far more exciting than just ordinary retelling of facts.

01:08:42.000 And that's why people like it.

01:08:43.000 So, Scott, we were just discussing the role censorship played.

01:08:47.000 I think if you're on the left, You can react to something nutty like this and say, well, let's just censor crazy stuff so people are protected.

01:08:54.000 But both because we generally oppose censorship and also because we know censorship will immediately be used to suppress important true things that need to be said about immigration and so on, how does the right deal with this issue where there are a lot of people who are going to go towards this siren song of really outlandish conspiracies, sort of untethered from facts, the soap operification of politics? 0.78

01:09:20.000 In one of your recent articles, is could insane clown populism, the insane clown party, take over the right?

01:09:26.000 How do we prevent it if not through censorship? 0.95

01:09:29.000 I think you challenge it, especially with established Republican politicians who air these insane theories and comments, that you challenge them and say, we're not going to go down this silly route.

01:09:41.000 And the left actually has their own problem with conspiratorialism, which they believe that any time that Trump, there's another assassination attempt against Trump, it's now a false flag.

01:09:51.000 But hilariously, the right also believes that as well.

01:09:55.000 The ICP believes every insane conspiracy theory the left believes because it's an equal opportunity conspiracy theory believer.

01:10:03.000 So even if things that support the left, like, oh, this is another spy thriller, okay, we're definitely going to believe in this, even though it's undermining their own side.

01:10:11.000 You know, the Butler assassination attempt is now seen as a false flag that Trump engineered himself to build up support, and right wingers and prominent influencers are into that.

01:10:22.000 And I was like, How does that benefit our own side?

01:10:24.000 So, at least with the left, their conspiratorialism and they're just having as big of a problem with this.

01:10:29.000 You can see that with Russiagate and carrying on from there.

01:10:32.000 But most of their conspiracies actually support their side.

01:10:35.000 A lot of our conspiracies undermine our side and encourage our audience to vote for the left.

01:10:41.000 Yeah, yeah, exactly.

01:10:43.000 Which is part of the problem.

01:10:45.000 Our relationship, I do think that, you know, we talked to some young people at our chapter leadership summit.

01:10:50.000 We did these roundtables, Blake and I, and the young people are living in almost an alternate reality, right?

01:10:57.000 The memification of everything.

01:10:59.000 It's almost disassociative from reality, right?

01:11:05.000 What's the answer to that?

01:11:06.000 We have 40 seconds left here, Scott.

01:11:08.000 So sorry for a big question, but.

01:11:10.000 How do you combat that?

01:11:11.000 Is it just more speech?

01:11:12.000 You just have to be louder than them?

01:11:13.000 It's just more speech.

01:11:14.000 I think it's presenting your side in a compelling fashion, not shying away from hard truths, and just delivering the truth in the best way you can.

01:11:24.000 And that's the only way to defeat it is through and to continue on and carrying on the fight and to not shy away from the fight or challenging it.

01:11:32.000 Sometimes you should just ignore this stuff if it's just like completely out there.

01:11:36.000 But once it gains an audience and it becomes popular, you have to challenge it.

01:11:40.000 And that's one of the lessons I put forward in my book, White Pill.

01:11:44.000 And that's what I hope that people take away as the white pill is that the truth will always win. 0.93

01:11:49.000 That's how the new right emerges to the forefront, and it will be how we conquer and defeat the insane clown party. 0.66

01:11:57.000 Let me shut out your book here White Pill by Scott Greer.

01:12:00.000 You can find it on Amazon or at Passage Press.

01:12:02.000 It's out today.

01:12:03.000 Give him a look.

01:12:04.000 Check out his Substack.

01:12:05.000 Highly respected on Substack.

01:12:08.000 Scott, thanks for joining us.

01:12:13.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - July 21, 2026

Charlie's Man for Arizona + Take the Whitepill

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