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00:02:01.000You know, I want to just point out a lot of people have said primaries aren't everything, they don't tell you exactly what's going to happen in general.
00:02:09.000However, I will point out it is better to win big as big as possible, get as many votes out as possible in your primary because voting is habitual.
00:03:13.000Would passion project be the right term for this?
00:03:15.000Like, this is, yeah, this is a race we really want to win for him.
00:03:17.000I mean, I mean, look, here's the way that we look at it.
00:03:21.000And I just, again, just to recap for everyone that's just tuning in, maybe for the first time, getting involved with elections for the first time.
00:03:27.000The left has become really good at consolidating its base and turning out base voters and convincing low propensity base voters to turn out to make up for independent votes.
00:03:43.000This is how Barack Obama became president, effectively.
00:03:46.000The right has been really bad at this.
00:03:49.000And so, what we oftentimes will do is we'll nominate kind of a milquetoast candidate that nobody's really excited for and lose an election.
00:03:55.000That's basically what happened in the Romney era.
00:03:58.000How Romney lost and how Trump won is because Trump was much more in line with the Obama style politics, getting your base together, consolidating your base, and then getting more people to turn out that are low propensity than the independents maybe voting against you.
00:04:15.000Well, and so this is the big question this primary season and then into the midterms is without President Trump on the ballot, can we get these people that seem to only show up when Trump's running?
00:04:48.000Yeah, I mean, so you just brought up something that's really important.
00:04:52.000When Trump's on the ballot, we generally do worse, statistically worse, many points worse, because low propensity voters, again, that I just brought up, Aren't as moved because when name ID is low on a candidate, it's bad.
00:05:07.000When people don't understand what's at stake, it's bad.
00:05:11.000Presidential elections obviously turn out a lot more voters.
00:05:13.000So when you have a midterm election, you have to work extra hard to get those voters out, which means that you have to have a better ground game.
00:05:20.000You have to have field offices on the ground.
00:05:25.000It's ideal to have candidates on the ballot that when you can't have Trump, you got to have somebody that at least people know.
00:05:31.000And so this is why it's really important.
00:05:34.000And every state's a little bit different, but You know, we're really bullish on the red wall strategy that we're talking about.
00:05:41.000Arizona, Nevada, New Hampshire could undo the Democrats' stranglehold on the blue wall, which is Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania.
00:05:50.000You could win, you know, potentially in 2028 by winning the R3 red wall states without winning any of the blue wall states, which is terrifying to the Democrats.
00:06:00.000But again, this is why this election cycle has been so important in 2026.
00:06:27.000So, some people in this audience might go, Sununu is too moderate for turning point.
00:06:32.000And your motto, and this is something I remember you preaching to Charlie and Charlie repeating and all this stuff we get the most conservative candidate.
00:06:44.000And that people know, again, because again, this name ID idea without Trump on the ballot is really important that you're bringing it, right?
00:06:51.000You want to have the best possible name, the person that people know the best, that are willing to show up for the best, are able to tell their neighbors and friends about that person the best.
00:07:01.000And in New Hampshire, that's Johnson Uno right now.
00:07:07.000Andy Biggs, the former chairman of the Freedom Caucus, The former Senate president has been around, has been one of the best congressmen that this country has had for the last decade.
00:07:22.000He outnumbers in name ID the current governor of Arizona, Katie Hobbs.
00:07:27.000So you have a great opportunity when people know that person to be able to go out and share the gospel of, hey, you got to get out and vote for this person.
00:07:37.000Like, oh, yeah, I kind of know that guy.
00:07:39.000You're going to turn out more low propensity voters that way.
00:07:41.000So, as you said, we do have lower turnout in midterm years.
00:07:45.000All these ballot chases, they're out, they're engaging with those lower propensity voters.
00:07:48.000What do they get reasons for why these people are not voting?
00:07:52.000Do they just say, I only really feel like voting if it's a presidential year?
00:07:55.000Are they not even really aware the election's going on?
00:07:59.000Yeah, what's the story that they encounter?
00:08:01.000Yeah, so most people assume that people are just lazy or they have some reason not to vote.
00:08:06.000It actually turns out that that's not the case in most circumstances.
00:08:10.000Most people just forget to vote or they don't think voting is important or they think that you really only vote every four years.
00:08:17.000So a low propensity voter sometimes is a less educated voter.
00:08:21.000They just don't even realize what's going on.
00:08:23.000People are busy, they have lives, they have jobs, they have families.
00:08:26.000Most of the people that we communicate with are like, Oh, yeah, I'll totally vote.
00:08:33.000I mean, I think about this is why voting's habitual.
00:08:35.000I think about those people we ran into in 24 where they thought they'd voted for Trump because they voted in a primary, because they'd signed a petition.
00:08:43.000I think in some cases, even because they'd signed up for a rally, they thought they'd voted, correct?
00:08:48.000People think sometimes that just engaging watching Fox News or listening to the Charlie Kirk show, taking a poll online.
00:08:55.000We have had numerous people this election cycle that we're knocking into, that we're talking to, that are huge fans of the Charlie Kirk show, Charlie Turning Point.
00:09:04.000That have not voted in the last three midterm elections.
00:09:09.000Yeah, I'll never forget that story about the house with the Trump shrine in his garage that wasn't voting.
00:09:19.000But this is why I say to everyone primary elections are important because the more that you can engage people, educate them, become a habit with voting, then the more likely they are to vote and turn out in the general election.
00:09:31.000All right, I want to go through a list of all of the Turning Point Action endorsements in the state of Arizona.
00:09:37.000This is, so we've got, throw up that first graphic, and you can see the list here.
00:09:42.000So you've got Andy Biggs, obviously, for governor, and you've got, just you go through the list, Tyler.
00:09:49.000Yeah, so Alex Colloden has been in the state legislature.
00:09:52.000He is one of the most preeminent election integrity lawyers in America.
00:10:35.000You'll remember a lot of people talked about her because she was the top vote getter in 2022.
00:10:39.000A lot of reasons why people believe there was funny business going on in Arizona because Kimberly Yee.
00:10:44.000Kimberly Yee won a ton of precincts that Carrie Lake lost on paper.
00:10:50.000We later found out that this is a lot of election manipulation.
00:10:53.000Obviously, they were not targeting Kimberly the same way that they were targeting Carrie, but Kimberly is fantastic.
00:11:00.000She was in the Senate Education Committee under Andy Biggs while he was Senate President.
00:11:07.000And we believe that she will be the best defender of ESAs or the voucher program.
00:11:12.000Again, remember, school choice is the biggest in Arizona, it's the number one program in the country.
00:11:19.000A lot of states, a lot of red states want to replicate it, but what we cannot have happen is the Democrats come in and get rid of the whole thing.
00:11:26.000And so she will be a big, big difference.
00:11:27.000She's running for superintendent of public instruction.
00:11:30.000She's bar none, not even close, way better than the competition.
00:11:34.000Dr. Ralph Heap for corporation commissioner.
00:11:37.000So, Dr. Ralph Heap, again, if you recall, Justin Heap, we got elected, who's the Freedom Caucus member that took over for Stephen Richer as chief elections officer of Maricopa County.
00:12:01.000He has been serving the legislature and specifically has taken focus on water and our electric bills.
00:12:09.000So the Corporation Commission is directly responsible for overseeing Arizona Public Service, APS, which runs one of the largest electric companies in the country.
00:12:20.000And so this is to keep rates low and to hold that in a much more conservative position.
00:12:35.000Yeah, Elijah Norton, young guy, ran actually against David Schweiker and did pretty well last time for Congress.
00:12:43.000He was since then the treasurer for the Arizona Republican Party, has done a tremendous job, big supporter of Turning Point for many years, grew one of the largest insurance companies in his own business, multi, multi, multi million dollar company.
00:12:59.000And we think he's going to do a tremendous job.
00:13:00.000And then there are obviously some names that people are probably like, why aren't they on there?
00:13:35.000Those that remember it and follow Turning Points content, huge.
00:13:39.000He's obviously been sheriff, fighting the left longer than just about anybody in the state since the left has tried to hijack Arizona and get rid of all the border fence and things like that.
00:13:53.000We have Juan Sisgamani that's in the fight of his life right now in CD6.
00:13:58.000So this is one of the key target districts in America.
00:14:42.000So, polls close at 7 p.m. in Arizona tonight.
00:14:47.000So, even if you're listening to this or watching this broadcast and you're like, I don't live in Arizona, but my cousin does, call your cousin.
00:16:42.000For nearly 3,000 years, Homer's The Odyssey has shaped Western imagination.
00:16:47.000It tells the story of Odysseus as he faces monsters, shipwrecks, false comforts, and impossible choices on his long journey home.
00:16:56.000As one of the foundational works of Western literature, Homer's epic is more than a mythology.
00:17:02.000It explores permanent questions about courage, duty, loyalty, family, leadership, temptation, and the search for home.
00:17:09.000In one of the epic's defining moments, Odysseus rejects the offer of immortality from the goddess Calypso, choosing instead the long and difficult journey home.
00:17:18.000His decision reveals one of the central themes of the Odyssey that a life of duty, family, and home is greater than a life devoted to comfort or glory.
00:20:00.000I was born in 1959, and that was the year that began the first three years of famine, the Great Famine that killed up to 50 million Chinese peasants.
00:22:48.000No more to Trumpism, but no more to the Democrats who compromise, who conciliate and who betray us.
00:22:56.000No more to the fascist reactionaries, but no more to the Democrats who will collaborate And cooperate with the fascists, who will fund ICE, who will fund Israel, who will help poison the planet, who will stiff workers and help bosses.
00:23:09.000We don't need those Democrats anymore.
00:23:13.000So, there, while he's talking, no compromise with any moderate Democrats.
00:23:18.000They're as bad as the fascists, as he calls them, because they'll support Israel, because they'll support ICE, or they'll fund ICE, they'll allow people to be deported.
00:24:41.000But you see that same spirit being animated in him, this animal passion for wanting to.
00:24:48.000First, tear down anybody in the ranks that don't pass his purity test.
00:24:53.000And I have to believe that that was the same spirit animating Mao's brutal carnage within his own communist ranks.
00:25:01.000That if you do not meet my purity test, you're gone.
00:25:04.000Or if you become a problem to me, you're gone.
00:25:06.000And this is why I said on social media last night that Hassan Piker, if given the power or anybody like him, wants us dead, they would get rid of us.
00:25:19.000In a second, because we would stand up to them trying to seize the means of production.
00:26:07.000I mean, I think it's important for us to emphasize because you can say, why are you guys highlighting a streamer where he says a nice thing about Mao?
00:26:28.000He's clearly representing the wave of the future for this party.
00:26:33.000And what they are embracing is you can call it Maoism, you can call it communism, you can call it third worldism, but it's a much more culturally arsonist way of viewing the entire West that they want to, they're gloating that they're going to tear everything down.
00:26:50.000They're gloating about who they'll put in their place.
00:26:58.000Abdul El Sayed, who's running for U.S. Senate in Michigan.
00:27:02.000That's the man who had condolences about the Ayatollah's death, but he's attacked his opponent for voting on a resolution to honor Charlie.
00:28:46.000I want to actually plug your book here really quick.
00:28:48.000It's Made in America, Zhi Van Fleet, The Hidden History of How the U.S. Enabled Communist China and Created Our Greatest Threat.
00:28:57.000So, you are a prolific author as well as many things.
00:29:01.000You're doing such a good job of telling this story so that we are not doomed to repeat the history of Communist China and so many other authoritarian regimes.
00:29:12.000I got to get through this point, though, because this is what we're seeing play out.
00:29:15.000Charlie used to always say, What happens on campus doesn't stay on campus.
00:29:18.000It bleeds into corporate boardrooms and the halls of Congress, and we're seeing that right now.
00:29:23.000And I want to talk about this long march through the institutions that communists have been engaging upon in this country.
00:29:29.000SOT 23, this is a congressional hearing that's happened this morning, and we're seeing this play out right now.
00:29:37.000Dr. Blight, when people see the warning signs that you mentioned, why is it important that they speak up and take action?
00:29:44.000Well, it's important because if the people don't stand up, they lose these institutions.
00:29:49.000And as you just suggested, the black world came to America for the World Cup.
00:29:55.000I wonder if people notice that the world is black and brown, and the teams from European countries were black and brown.
00:30:04.000So they're talking about basically the museums, the institutions, and how they're fighting back against what they call President Trump's propaganda within the Smithsonian, and they're noticing that it's the authoritarian tendencies of President Trump.
00:31:36.000So, Dr. Blight, if Republicans are going to ban books, penalize schools and universities, attack museums, if states continue to change curriculum, where do Americans go to learn about the complicated, sometimes racist, and violent parts of American history?
00:31:56.000I think they will have to keep going to the same institutions, and we have to keep fighting to preserve what we are doing in those institutions.
00:32:04.000They have to keep going to public schools.
00:32:05.000They have to keep going to their public libraries.
00:32:07.000They have to keep going to the great Smithsonian.
00:32:11.000Americans have to keep going to those places they trust.
00:32:17.000We have to keep those institutions trustworthy.
00:32:22.000Okay, so they're only trustworthy, G, to your point, if they talk about our racist, quote, racist and violent past.
00:32:31.000And they're accusing us of banning books, of penalizing schools and universities.
00:32:37.000Why is it that they feel so entitled to these things, and why is it so important to them that they capture them?
00:32:43.000Yeah, because if you control the institution, you really control the narrative and you control how people learn of our past.
00:32:51.000This is an absolute rewriting of the past.
00:33:40.000They have to castigate and shame and demoralize.
00:33:44.000Us as a civilization and a country that has, I would argue, the proudest history of any modern country in the world, maybe throughout all of human history.
00:33:53.000And that's what makes the challenge so difficult for them.
00:33:57.000But they're succeeding in these crazy ways that you would have never imagined.
00:34:23.000In the past, we really talk a lot about cultural Marxism, like the Long March through institutions, because they failed to implement the economic Marxism because the working class did not buy their bullshit.
00:34:36.000The working class actually get richer, they become middle class.
00:34:40.000So, but recently they have been bringing up this class struggle.
00:34:43.000They have been bringing up this economic Marxism as well.
00:34:47.000I think it's because The Democratic Party, the left, have successfully created American proletariat through the welfare policy.
00:34:59.000They have generations of people who depend on the government, who never get ahead because that's the plan.
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00:37:25.000We need economic touch points from time to time because there's just so many moving parts in an economy this large, but also geopolitically.
00:40:55.000But it's sort of what happens in the gold market you have these massive runoffs based on news, and then there was this leveling off.
00:41:03.000And then I think the last thing that maybe has hurt the gold price, but I don't think it's true, is this idea that Kevin Walsh maybe is going to be hawkish.
00:41:10.000I think a lot of people have been talking about that, that he's going to raise interest rates potentially or he's not going to expand the money supply.
00:41:17.000I think he is going to expand the money supply.
00:41:20.000If he expands the money supply, what happens to that?
00:41:43.000It also affects the real estate market, also commercial real estate, residential, all everything would really be hindered by higher rates.
00:41:51.000That's not what we need right now in the economy.
00:41:53.000So, what are the other levers that he can do?
00:41:55.000And so, in my opinion, I've been saying it for a while, is I think he'll do some type of quantitative easing to open up the money supply to get the markets moving, which is what we did in 2009.
00:42:13.000So, if the gold market sees increased money supply and they say, you know, more supply on the market, that means the value of the average dollar is going down.
00:42:26.000And so that's the real question is what's going to happen over the next few weeks?
00:42:30.000So I think you've had all these things happening that have pushed the price of gold down, but we're seeing a lot of normalcy in the trading range now, where you're seeing buyers in the 3,900.
00:43:24.000I mean, I think there's, first of all, silver you have to think about is all the potential with war.
00:43:29.000I mean, the reason our government last year, the U.S. government and the Chinese government made silver a strategic metal is because with these expanding.
00:43:39.000Uh, areas of war that we're going to use silver in tomahawk missiles and a lot of technology, drones, all this.
00:43:46.000So, as these things continue to grow, the U.S. government needs it, the Chinese government needs it.
00:43:51.000So, when they make a strategic metal, they're saying, like, we're going to limit the amount that we're going to get rid of, we're going to keep as much as we can.
00:43:58.000Um, and and we've you know, the government has borrowed and seized silver over history in 1942.
00:44:06.000We were running out of copper during World War II, as you know, they borrowed 14,000 ounces from the U.S. Treasury for silver for.
00:44:27.000But what eventually would happen is that once we realized that there are so many strategic uses that we needed for silver, then you saw the price start to go back up.
00:44:37.000There's always that 100 to 1, you know, 80 to 1, 71 gold to silver ratio that we've talked about a lot.
00:44:42.000And it's, you know, we're in a different range than we've been.
00:44:46.000But I think that silver typically lags behind gold.
00:46:35.000So, compared to the first World Cup, the first World Cup, or not the first, the last World Cup, the trophy was worth like, I don't know, $200,000 or $250,000.
00:46:47.000And now the trophy is worth like $700,000, $800,000.
00:46:51.000It's almost a million dollars that's being held up in the hands right there.
00:46:54.000Which is, yeah, and Trump was holding it.
00:47:45.000So we were talking about people are increasingly getting delivery of gold, of silver.
00:47:49.000They're wanting to physically claim it.
00:47:51.000Someone I know, I was telling you about, they were investing in gold and then they discovered they were talking to a friend who was a jeweler.
00:49:02.000Well, let's say this is informal, like it's a friend who has, you know, maybe they inherited it or something and they're willing to sell it off.
00:49:10.000What should a person like that do to make sure they don't accidentally?
00:50:46.000If anybody's telling you, or if you're about to do a trade and they're like, it's going to take six weeks or eight weeks, they're holding your money and they're playing the market and they're trying to time the market.
00:51:09.000Fox News is actually one of the creditors.
00:51:12.000They're in for like $2 million owed, like on TV commercials or unpaid.
00:51:17.000There's a bunch of other advertising companies, but yeah, it's.
00:51:20.000Well, this is why we work with you because, you know, when we started the show, it was like so many shysters.
00:51:27.000Like, people don't realize that when we launched the Charlie Kirk show, there was all these, like, People that were like, Oh, we want to partner with you.
00:52:52.000And there's a lot of stuff out where people don't realize there's advertising where they'll say like 24 karat gold and then the coin will be like $50.
00:54:14.000So why aren't you buying silver right now?
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00:56:19.000It did not care about the cultural or civilizational issues that the right now focuses on and the Trump administration now focuses on and that Turning Point USA and Charlie Kirk focus on.
00:56:28.000It was obsessed with Fiscal conservatism, more wars, more unnecessary things that only matter to corporate donors rather than matter to the base.
00:56:39.000And so my book aims to describe how conservatism changed over the last decade.
00:56:44.000And it has many characters that would be familiar to your show, such as Charlie Kirk as being one of the instrumental figures in pushing the right in a more white pill direction, as they would say, and now being a more combative force that takes on the left on numerous controversial topics.
00:57:02.000That conservatives in the past would have run away from, such as immigration, such as anti white racism.
00:58:43.000We saw that earlier this year when we had calls to repeal the Hard Cellar Act and impose a massive reduction in immigration.
00:58:52.000And this is endorsed by Ron DeSantis, who has a good nose for knowing what's a good way to sell himself to the conservative public or knowing what the conservative base wants.
00:59:01.000And in the past, the way, if you look at the Tea Party, what they thought is the most right-wing way to demonstrate themselves as the most conservative candidate was calling for cutting the Interior Department or something, or calling for some type of fiscal conservatism that didn't really animate the base and did not really capture what the public mood is or address the civilizational issues that threaten America.
00:59:26.000But today they now go towards immigration.
00:59:29.000And even though there are still rumblings over whenever a few backbench Republicans or a few notorious pro-immigration Republicans propose some new immigration bill or amnesty bill, they have very little chance of passing.
00:59:43.000Unlike in 2013, where the entire Republican Party leadership says the only way the GOP can survive, and this was the purpose of the 2012 election autopsy the GOP put out that year of saying the only way we can survive.
00:59:58.000Is if we pass amnesty, is if we legalize millions of illegal aliens.
01:00:03.000This is the only way the party can survive in the future.
01:00:06.000Donald Trump presented a different future for the party and that and that alternative won in 2016 and won in 2024.
01:00:19.000The alternative never animated the base and never captured the imagination of the American public, and because it did not address serious issues that ordinary people are facing, Which the new right does address these issues.
01:00:32.000And so I think at the stance we're at now, conservative politicians, Republican politicians in the past would have even never dared talking about restricting legal immigration.
01:00:43.000But in order to demonstrate that they are the most conservative, most right wing guy out there, they are all eager to say, we want to cut immigration.
01:00:50.000And that's a huge positive element for the right.
01:00:53.000I love that you mentioned that autopsy.
01:00:55.000It's so easy for people to forget how bad things were in the past.
01:00:59.000That, yeah, 13 years ago, Not that long in the grand scheme of things.
01:01:05.000That is the only way we can win Hispanic voters and they're the future.
01:01:09.000And so I love that you mentioned that because not only did we go a different path thanks to Donald Trump and others who led the way, we did it and we won more of the Hispanic vote than we'd ever won in recent history by doing that.
01:01:22.000So the subtitle of your book is The Online Right and the Making of Trump's America.
01:01:33.000After the 2016 election, the left pretty accurately concluded Trump was able to win because of an uncensored Twitter that enabled people to hear his message, hear people supporting his message, even though TV was condemning him.
01:02:37.000There was even advertisements about illegal immigration that.
01:02:40.000Facebook and others would say, this is fake news.
01:02:42.000And then they would try to censor that.
01:02:43.000Even think about how they suppressed the information around Hunter Biden's laptop, which all these so-called security experts came out to say, oh, this is Russian disinformation.
01:02:53.000This is totally fake news when we all knew it was real.
01:02:56.000But they utilized that talking point to then suppress talk and discussion about Hunter Biden's laptop.
01:03:03.000So when you had censorship, it became very hard for the right to win.
01:03:08.000And it became very hard for these ideas to get out there.
01:03:11.000And after Trump won, there was this massive censorship wave.
01:03:15.000All across social media because they didn't want this to repeat itself.
01:03:19.000They did not want Trump to win another term.
01:03:22.000They did not want someone like Trump to even have the chance of winning again.
01:03:27.000But thanks to Elon Musk and buying up X, it set a new standard for tech and it allowed for more free speech to emerge and it countered censorship and it allowed Trump to win in 2024 despite the massive opposition towards him, despite all these legal cases against him.
01:03:47.000despite all this outrage over January 6th and numerous other things that the liberal media had whipped up against Trump, he was able to win.
01:03:56.000And no one would have predicted this in 2021.
01:03:58.000It was been thought unthinkable that Trump could come back and win the presidency in 2024.
01:04:04.000But he was able to do so by the new pro-free speech environment allowed by social media.
01:04:10.000And that's why it's very important to combat censorship anywhere it can take place and to be very concerned if we try to go back to the late 2010s level of censorship.
01:05:55.000Obviously, we had Q and all these things.
01:05:58.000And we have been lied to a lot, right?
01:05:59.000COVID, Hunter Biden's laptop, things that were censored from us.
01:06:04.000Where do you perceive the right being right now?
01:06:07.000This new right, this online right, as far as its relationship with the facts, evidence, and proof?
01:06:14.000You know, that's an interesting relationship they have with facts, evidence, and proof.
01:06:20.000The internet does allow a lot of freedom, and it also allows people to invent their own reality, which the insane clown party.
01:06:26.000Has done a fantastic job of inventing their own reality.
01:06:31.000But it presents a very exciting way of showing the news.
01:06:36.000If you go to the news and it's all data and polling and elections and that, that's not as exciting.
01:06:43.000But imagine that if every part of the news is a new soap opera or a new spy thriller or even that there's a supernatural element, like this random murder might have been the work of some type of monster of some sort.
01:06:58.000So they really like these ideas because it makes the news far more exciting.
01:07:04.000And one of the things, one of the challenges with alternative media or independent media.
01:07:09.000Outside of the mainstream media, is that a lot of the audience wants you to challenge and question established narratives and the establishment itself, which is usually a good thing because, as you pointed out, with around COVID, around what they've said about immigration and numerous other issues, or if you look at how they portrayed the George Floyd revolution, there's a lot of reasons and a lot of ground to challenge them.
01:07:32.000But a lot of people want you to go further and create your own spy thriller out of every news item, or especially soap operas.
01:07:41.000So, people get into this, and that really what their main concerns become is whether UFOs are controlling bridge destructions or what there might be some, you know, space lasers involved in wildfires in California.
01:07:57.000That's always a big thing, which in the past, you know, if someone's blaming space lasers for wildfires, they'd be like, that's nuts.
01:08:04.000But then if you go on X and if there's ever a wildfire going on, space lasers are at the top of the list of culprits.
01:08:12.000It's even the same if there's a new hurricane afoot or some other.
01:08:18.000Weather machines are now a primary culprit for why this happened.
01:08:23.000You even saw this last year in the tragic flooding that happened in Texas.
01:08:27.000Everyone, you know, if you're going on X and social media, everyone's starting to blame the weather machines, which, you know, I don't think that would be the weather machine.
01:08:35.000So it makes, but it makes the news far more exciting than just ordinary retelling of facts.
01:08:43.000So, Scott, we were just discussing the role censorship played.
01:08:47.000I think if you're on the left, You can react to something nutty like this and say, well, let's just censor crazy stuff so people are protected.
01:08:54.000But both because we generally oppose censorship and also because we know censorship will immediately be used to suppress important true things that need to be said about immigration and so on, how does the right deal with this issue where there are a lot of people who are going to go towards this siren song of really outlandish conspiracies, sort of untethered from facts, the soap operification of politics?
01:09:20.000In one of your recent articles, is could insane clown populism, the insane clown party, take over the right?
01:09:26.000How do we prevent it if not through censorship?
01:09:29.000I think you challenge it, especially with established Republican politicians who air these insane theories and comments, that you challenge them and say, we're not going to go down this silly route.
01:09:41.000And the left actually has their own problem with conspiratorialism, which they believe that any time that Trump, there's another assassination attempt against Trump, it's now a false flag.
01:09:51.000But hilariously, the right also believes that as well.
01:09:55.000The ICP believes every insane conspiracy theory the left believes because it's an equal opportunity conspiracy theory believer.
01:10:03.000So even if things that support the left, like, oh, this is another spy thriller, okay, we're definitely going to believe in this, even though it's undermining their own side.
01:10:11.000You know, the Butler assassination attempt is now seen as a false flag that Trump engineered himself to build up support, and right wingers and prominent influencers are into that.
01:10:22.000And I was like, How does that benefit our own side?
01:10:24.000So, at least with the left, their conspiratorialism and they're just having as big of a problem with this.
01:10:29.000You can see that with Russiagate and carrying on from there.
01:10:32.000But most of their conspiracies actually support their side.
01:10:35.000A lot of our conspiracies undermine our side and encourage our audience to vote for the left.
01:11:14.000I think it's presenting your side in a compelling fashion, not shying away from hard truths, and just delivering the truth in the best way you can.
01:11:24.000And that's the only way to defeat it is through and to continue on and carrying on the fight and to not shy away from the fight or challenging it.
01:11:32.000Sometimes you should just ignore this stuff if it's just like completely out there.
01:11:36.000But once it gains an audience and it becomes popular, you have to challenge it.
01:11:40.000And that's one of the lessons I put forward in my book, White Pill.
01:11:44.000And that's what I hope that people take away as the white pill is that the truth will always win.
01:11:49.000That's how the new right emerges to the forefront, and it will be how we conquer and defeat the insane clown party.
01:11:57.000Let me shut out your book here White Pill by Scott Greer.
01:12:00.000You can find it on Amazon or at Passage Press.