The Charlie Kirk Show - October 03, 2026


Charlie’s Q&A at the 2023 Educator’s Summit

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00:00:03.000 My name is Charlie Kirk.
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00:01:17.000 We'll do some questions with the time I have remaining.
00:01:19.000 So thank you.
00:01:29.000 So, with questions, you can line up right in the middle row right here.
00:01:33.000 I definitely want to hear from some teachers or educators.
00:01:37.000 So, anybody have a question?
00:01:40.000 Step on up.
00:01:43.000 Thank you.
00:01:44.000 Good evening.
00:01:46.000 I just came from a conference where, in my method of teaching, they changed the American flag for the rainbow flag.
00:01:55.000 My question to you is as a Christian person, someone to do good, do you come out there and then?
00:02:00.000 Do you wait?
00:02:01.000 What would be the answer for that?
00:02:02.000 What do we do when we see things going on wrong?
00:02:04.000 Just make it pass?
00:02:05.000 So, that's my question.
00:02:06.000 So, you went to a conference and they replaced the American flag with the rainbow flag?
00:02:10.000 Yeah. 0.72
00:02:11.000 Okay.
00:02:12.000 Can I ask where you teach?
00:02:14.000 Is that?
00:02:14.000 Look, I'm a Montessori teacher.
00:02:16.000 I think it's a beautiful system, but we're taking, I think, by the wrong mentality.
00:02:20.000 Yeah.
00:02:20.000 Okay.
00:02:22.000 So, I can't quite.
00:02:23.000 I'm going to stop short of giving you specific advice because I probably want you to still have a job, right?
00:02:28.000 So, I would prayerfully consider how to navigate.
00:02:34.000 I mean, they're not going to stop, right?
00:02:36.000 I get in trouble for saying this, but from people I don't respect, so I'm going to say it because I respect all of you. 1.00
00:02:41.000 There is an all out agenda to groom kids in an LGBT agenda. 0.99
00:02:46.000 These people are groomers, okay? 0.97
00:02:48.000 And they don't like it when you say that, but why on earth do you need a flag that celebrates people's sexual activity to children? 0.98
00:02:56.000 That's what it is, period.
00:02:59.000 I don't think that would go over very well if you say that, but I'm just giving you my honest thought.
00:03:03.000 Let me tell you something more broadly as a Christian thing, right?
00:03:06.000 I love the Old Testament.
00:03:07.000 As you may or could tell, I spent a lot of time in Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy.
00:03:12.000 I think it's, thank you, it's really forgotten.
00:03:15.000 Jesus loved the Old Testament too, regardless of what your skinny G pastor might tell you.
00:03:23.000 Jesus quoted Deuteronomy more than any other book.
00:03:26.000 So did the founding fathers.
00:03:27.000 They had that in common.
00:03:27.000 Someone said the Talmud?
00:03:32.000 He quoted Psalms more than any other book.
00:03:35.000 Oh, Psalms more than Deuteronomy?
00:03:36.000 Okay.
00:03:37.000 I got to.
00:03:37.000 Correct John MacArthur then.
00:03:41.000 So then the Torah, the first five books of Moses, were written as a refutation of paganism.
00:03:52.000 It's at war with paganism.
00:03:53.000 We're living through outright paganism right now.
00:03:56.000 There is no, I used the word secular, and I have to stop using that word because it's actually not true.
00:04:02.000 There is no such thing as a secular society.
00:04:05.000 You're going to have some form of belief.
00:04:08.000 So you might not have Christian belief.
00:04:11.000 But, you know, when you study Leviticus 1, 2, and 3, and they have all these like very complex rituals, you're like, oh, that doesn't apply to us, right?
00:04:19.000 Like how you kill an animal, and then all of a sudden you read all the rules of the woke, and you're like, they just take biblical practices and reappropriate it through whatever new lens.
00:04:33.000 Human beings, as we are made by God, need attachment to something.
00:04:37.000 We need symbols, we need flags, we need songs, we need something that we can say that we're part of. 0.83
00:04:43.000 And the LGBTQ mafia, they take that flag and it has a religious attachment to it for some people. 0.96
00:04:53.000 And I mean, I say this and I love saying it pride is a sin, and why we have a whole month dedicated to a sin is very strange to me and doesn't make any sense. 0.98
00:05:05.000 Well, it does if you study it. 0.74
00:05:07.000 But that there, whether it be the earth worship or the religion of tolerance, these are all just repurposed old river civilization pagan beliefs.
00:05:17.000 That is nothing new.
00:05:20.000 It's the same spiritual battles that re manifest themselves.
00:05:26.000 And in some ways, it is polytheism versus monotheism.
00:05:30.000 And one of the great dangers of polytheism is if there's multiple gods and there's multiple moralities.
00:05:36.000 If there's one God, there's only one morality.
00:05:39.000 Every founding father was an ethical monotheist, every single one.
00:05:43.000 An argument that needs to be made and kids need to learn is the Declaration of Independence was the clearest document ever written for ethical monotheism in the history of the world.
00:05:53.000 And by the way, God is mentioned four times in the Declaration.
00:05:55.000 Declaration of Independence, and in fact, the last paragraph of the Declaration of Independence is literally a prayer.
00:06:01.000 We appeal to the Supreme Judge of the world.
00:06:05.000 That's a prayer.
00:06:06.000 That's how they used to pray in the 1770s.
00:06:09.000 And so to answer, I know there's a lot there, but is Montessori Christian or used to be or is or?
00:06:15.000 Used to be, yeah.
00:06:18.000 I can't speak much more to that.
00:06:19.000 I mean, we're here to support you and pray for you, but I know me, I would personally not be able to be part of an organization. 0.95
00:06:27.000 That raises the pride flag at all.
00:06:29.000 I personally would find somewhere else to spend my time.
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00:07:48.000 What books are you recommending these days?
00:07:50.000 Yeah, so I prefer books that are future focused, like 1984 and Brave New World.
00:07:57.000 Yeah, you guys got the joke.
00:07:58.000 You guys are an educated bunch.
00:08:00.000 So, yeah.
00:08:03.000 So, a couple books I'd love to share with you guys.
00:08:09.000 I love our podcast audience.
00:08:10.000 They are the most brutally honest people on the planet.
00:08:13.000 I recommend a 1984, like a year and a half ago.
00:08:15.000 I posted a podcast and I got this screeching letter in the mail because I didn't do the proper disclaimers that there was a sex scene in there.
00:08:22.000 So if you're going to teach 1984, yes, there is an adult scene there.
00:08:28.000 You could skip over it.
00:08:28.000 It's actually not important to the story.
00:08:30.000 So just want to let you know.
00:08:31.000 It is unbelievably important, though, I think, to teach 1984, okay?
00:08:36.000 I say this as somebody who has read hundreds of books on the topic of politics and dystopianism.
00:08:41.000 He hits it perfectly.
00:08:43.000 However, there's an equally as good book, Brave New World by Aldous Huxley.
00:08:47.000 Okay, now that's X rated.
00:08:49.000 Okay, that one is even worse than 84.
00:08:52.000 Okay, when your kids are mature enough, or if you can think you could teach it in a way, people talk about Orwellian, they don't talk about Huxleyan.
00:09:00.000 Aldous Huxley was actually a contemporary of George Orwell, and he talked about totalitarianism in a different way.
00:09:06.000 He said, What would happen if all sexual privacy and norms go away?
00:09:11.000 If everybody belonged to everybody, basically, talk about widespread orgies.
00:09:15.000 He also talks about in the book something called Soma, a perfectly designed pharmaceutical that anybody could take at any time and have a pleasurable disconnection from reality.
00:09:24.000 Now, we would know nothing about that in today's time, right?
00:09:27.000 Far off concept about taking a pill or a substance that can make us not attached with reality.
00:09:32.000 It is so spot on because what he talks about is if you were to distill it, 1984 with Orwell is here's the danger of mass government surveillance and how privacy and freedom are linked together.
00:09:46.000 Orwell also talked about why truth matters and this dynamic between power and truth and kind of how they have attention.
00:09:53.000 If you were to go to Huxley, though, in Brave New World, he says, What happens if there is no family?
00:10:01.000 And do tyrants benefit if people are able to get pleasure whenever they want?
00:10:08.000 And he actually argues that bad people are able to stay in power longer if you have no ability to control your carnal impulses.
00:10:20.000 That's not an argument made very often.
00:10:21.000 So, that's a whole book called Brave New World.
00:10:24.000 And the whole first chapter, by the way, is what would happen if you could actually artificially create human beings.
00:10:30.000 Yesterday, scientists exclaim they've created the first ever human embryo without an egg or a sperm.
00:10:36.000 Aldous Huxley, 1947 or 48, I think he published, I'm not mistaken, 51, predicted that that would happen in his lifetime.
00:10:43.000 He was a little bit behind the earth, literally.
00:10:44.000 So, it's very prophetic.
00:10:46.000 Okay, other books.
00:10:47.000 I love, someone who's actually had this book out in the lobby, I saw it by Vishal Mengelwaldi.
00:10:51.000 It's unbelievably good.
00:10:52.000 The book that built your world.
00:10:54.000 It's an excellent book written by an Indian American who's amazing.
00:11:00.000 And it talks about the Bible's significance in our culture, in our society.
00:11:05.000 Yeah, boy, what other books would be really important to share?
00:11:10.000 Oh, yeah, anything by C.S. Lewis.
00:11:12.000 Thank you for reminding me.
00:11:12.000 Yeah.
00:11:13.000 So, Abolition of Man, which is like my favorite education book, super short, easy, and Pete Hegs' Battle for the American Mind.
00:11:20.000 I'm a huge C.S. Lewis fan.
00:11:22.000 I think C.S. Lewis is one of the most underrated.
00:11:25.000 Apologists of the last hundred years, and quite honestly, I think he's under celebrated in Christian circles.
00:11:30.000 I know that might sound like quite a statement, but considering I think the weight and the accomplishment of his work, and quite honestly, the spirit filled prophecy, I think C.S. Lewis should be held at a very, very high celebratory standard in Protestant evangelical circles.
00:11:46.000 If you read Abolition of Man, he saw the entire problem of Western education before anybody else.
00:11:53.000 And this whole idea of subjectivity and objectivity.
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00:12:48.000 Okay, next question.
00:12:49.000 Hi, I'm Steve Fratt.
00:12:51.000 I'm Professor Emeritus here at Trinity.
00:12:53.000 Welcome.
00:12:54.000 That used to be, and 30 years.
00:12:58.000 And I taught intellectual history, worldviews.
00:13:01.000 I'm also a historian of science.
00:13:04.000 And so one of the frustrations I've had is that.
00:13:08.000 It seems to me, I want to know what you think about this. 0.89
00:13:11.000 Besides the classics, what about the scientific revolution done within a Christian context?
00:13:18.000 You know, Copernicus, Brahe, Kepler, Galilei, and especially Bacon.
00:13:25.000 Yeah, Bacon.
00:13:26.000 Your thoughts on the scientific revolution as the start of modern, fair evidence and logic thinking, but also what people are afraid of since it's science.
00:13:41.000 Oh, it's science, but.
00:13:44.000 It's in a Christian context, so I'd be interested in your thoughts.
00:13:47.000 And one other thing Animal Farm.
00:13:49.000 Oh, Animal, yeah, Orwell's second greatest work.
00:13:53.000 Great question, sir.
00:13:54.000 Thank you.
00:13:54.000 So I'm going to do this as quick as I can.
00:13:59.000 So modern science as we know it was actually a Christian phenomenon. 0.84
00:14:03.000 So before Christians, there were really no scientific breakthroughs. 0.95
00:14:08.000 Why would that be? 0.99
00:14:09.000 There were a couple discoveries here and there.
00:14:11.000 Because if you believe that there is a creator, Who designed the world with intentionality, and you go into the world to discover it because there's purpose behind it, then that gives you a reason to know and to understand.
00:14:25.000 Now, I prefer Sir Isaac Newton.
00:14:27.000 He wrote more about Isaiah biblical prophecy than even Sir Francis Bracken had some problems, including the cover of his book.
00:14:36.000 I always mispronounce it the Great Insternation, where it actually shows two Roman pillars and a boat going right through it, as if he's saying we're trying to pierce antiquity into modernity.
00:14:48.000 But your point is really important.
00:14:49.000 So, science, we as Christians should own, but it's totally different than what we're living through. 1.00
00:14:54.000 Because the Germans, who have a tendency to really mess things up, okay? 1.00
00:14:59.000 When you get a bunch of German intellectuals in a room, run, okay? 1.00
00:15:04.000 The Germans in the 1800s had a totally different approach to science, where Christian scientists in the 1600s and 1700s had humility and understanding of the hierarchy of nature. 0.78
00:15:16.000 There is a God, and I am not him. 0.89
00:15:18.000 They sought to know.
00:15:20.000 Understand and comprehend.
00:15:22.000 And the most important word that scientists do not have in their vocabulary is to wonder.
00:15:30.000 To wonder.
00:15:32.000 Scientists who came up with the scientific method were in awe and wonder of the complexity, the harmony, the design of our universe from physics to biology.
00:15:43.000 They were like, wow, that is amazing. 1.00
00:15:47.000 Then the Germans come along, those pesky little Germans, right? 1.00
00:15:50.000 And they had a totally different approach. 1.00
00:15:52.000 Part of it was Hegel, and they drew from Rousseau.
00:15:54.000 They said, well, instead of understanding, why don't we seek to change nature to fit our image?
00:16:01.000 Why don't we try to exert power over the natural order?
00:16:06.000 And you then saw this totally change with Woodrow Wilson talked about in politics, where he said, the founding fathers had a Newtonian view of politics, but we should have a Darwinian view of politics.
00:16:20.000 I am not an expert on this, but I could play toe to toe with most people on it. 0.97
00:16:23.000 Darwin is trash, okay? 0.97
00:16:26.000 And you should have the courage to say that out loud and read Doubting Darwin. 0.99
00:16:30.000 It's an excellent book by secular intellectuals that just take Darwin to the woodshed for his guessing and his fake propositions.
00:16:40.000 And so Darwin changed everything.
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00:18:44.000 But now, modern science is not science, it's not the science we know.
00:18:48.000 It is scientism.
00:18:50.000 It is a belief in changing the natural order to fit and accommodate our wishes. 0.99
00:18:56.000 I'm going to change the man to be a woman, I'm going to crush the fetus, the baby. 1.00
00:19:01.000 Because I want to, not seek to understand or seek to know. 1.00
00:19:05.000 And that is the great tension because many of you say, wow, there's so much in science that I am in wonder or in awe or respect of.
00:19:12.000 But the German historicist view is, why wouldn't we try to exert our own power over humanity?
00:19:20.000 And you saw this during COVID, didn't you?
00:19:23.000 And this is why there's no, when you have no wisdom, what are you supposed to do with all these scientific breakthroughs?
00:19:28.000 With no wisdom, they can't answer the question, should we lock down schools?
00:19:33.000 With no wisdom, they can't answer the question should we put masks on kids?
00:19:37.000 Because they have no basis to be able to determine good versus evil and no compass, no lens to answer those deeper questions.
00:19:44.000 So instead, they're not even talking about trust the science, right?
00:19:49.000 Force equals mass times acceleration, object rest, stay at rest.
00:19:52.000 They care more about trusting the scientists. 0.85
00:19:56.000 And I think a big Christian movement needs to be to reclaim science away from the secularists who do not.
00:20:02.000 They look at nature not in awe and wonder. 0.88
00:20:06.000 They look at nature with contempt and for revenge.
00:20:11.000 They do not see the order of the logos and the cosmos and say, there must be a creator.
00:20:17.000 They see it and say, I could have done it better.
00:20:21.000 And that is the divide in science in America today.
00:20:23.000 All right, thank you.
00:20:25.000 I do see my friend here.
00:20:26.000 Is that you, Chris, from Dream City?
00:20:28.000 Hey, Chris.
00:20:29.000 We have a great friend partner in Phoenix, by the way.
00:20:33.000 If any of you guys are there, a Dream City Christian, I just wanted to shout Chris out.
00:20:35.000 I thought that was you, man.
00:20:36.000 Good to see you.
00:20:37.000 So, I'll take the last question before I get yanked off stage completely, and because I have to actually run to another event.
00:20:43.000 Yes.
00:20:43.000 I'll try to make it quick.
00:20:44.000 So, first, I just want to thank you.
00:20:46.000 I, two years ago, resigned my position as a professor of nursing and department chair to homeschool our girls.
00:20:51.000 Oh, praise God.
00:20:52.000 That's a great decision.
00:20:53.000 Decision ever on so many fronts.
00:20:55.000 They're here with me today.
00:20:57.000 And they actually, part of me homeschooling them was my husband and I said, You got to find something extracurricular to do.
00:21:03.000 And so they started a turning point activism hub in our county.
00:21:07.000 Praise God.
00:21:07.000 They've done amazing with it.
00:21:09.000 They just got back from WY Young Women's.
00:21:12.000 Thank you.
00:21:13.000 Did they enjoy it?
00:21:14.000 They loved it.
00:21:15.000 I watched most of it online.
00:21:16.000 So when they got home, I was like, Oh, and so and so, and they said this part.
00:21:19.000 And I was just amazing.
00:21:21.000 So thank you.
00:21:22.000 Thank you.
00:21:22.000 It's such a positive influence on them and so many other of our youth.
00:21:27.000 Second, How soon are you going to expand Turning Point Academy so maybe there's some more career opportunities?
00:21:33.000 We're in growth mode, right, Hutz?
00:21:36.000 I'm not so, I'm a little frustrated with healthcare these days.
00:21:40.000 Well, that's the flawed approach of science now, right?
00:21:44.000 I mean, we are expanding.
00:21:46.000 We'd love to chat with you.
00:21:47.000 And having events like this means a lot.
00:21:51.000 I do want to mention something that there's this massive homeschooling revolution happening.
00:21:55.000 And I think it's one of the most positive developments in an ever negative.
00:22:00.000 News cycle, isn't it?
00:22:01.000 The amount of parents that want to take back control.
00:22:04.000 So thank you for saying that.
00:22:05.000 I'll close with this.
00:22:06.000 You guys are going to hear from some amazing speakers.
00:22:08.000 Please ask questions.
00:22:10.000 You know, we want you to be part of Turning Point Academy.
00:22:12.000 If we can give you resources, if we can give you training, if we can give you prayer and support, here's our crazy vision.
00:22:19.000 And we have a tendency of pulling them off because somebody laughed when I said, We're going to have thousands of young ladies.
00:22:25.000 A couple of years ago, I said, He'll never do that. 0.78
00:22:27.000 And you'll, oh, we'll have thousands of students.
00:22:28.000 He'll never do that.
00:22:29.000 I really believe.
00:22:31.000 That there can be a counter to these massive teachers' conferences that are out there that are done by the secular unions.
00:22:39.000 I'm sure you've seen them where they're pushing CRT and pushing DEI.
00:22:43.000 And so, our vision one day would be to have 3,000, 4,000 teachers, but this is where you guys are going to come in handy.
00:22:50.000 If we bless you these next couple days and you find this to be valuable, please get more teachers with you to come next time and bring them along.
00:22:59.000 Because this is going to be a word of mouth type revolution.
00:23:01.000 We're going to keep getting the word out.
00:23:03.000 But imagine 3,000, 4,000.
00:23:05.000 Hutz told me.
00:23:06.000 That this room directly touches 35,000 kids.
00:23:11.000 Is that not amazing?
00:23:13.000 35,000 kids.
00:23:14.000 So imagine if we get to 2,000 or 3,000, and you're going to be such an important part to that.
00:23:20.000 Please keep turning point in your prayers.
00:23:22.000 We're working really hard.
00:23:24.000 I believe that we're in a really special time and moment.
00:23:27.000 I'm honored to be fighting alongside of all of you, and be encouraged.
00:23:31.000 What you are doing is the most important thing to happen right now in the nation, and we're here to help you and support you.
00:23:37.000 So God bless you guys.
00:23:38.000 Thank you so much.
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