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00:01:23.000Both Mike flags are mine, and I am overjoyed.
00:01:26.000Andrew is taking a well deserved break with his family in an undisclosed location.
00:01:32.000And we wish him all the best, but we're glad all of you are tuning in.
00:01:37.000There's a lot we could have talked about this morning.
00:01:40.000Obviously, the Cornell saga is still blowing up.
00:01:43.000There's now a special prosecutor appointed by Governor Kathy Hochul, and it's Letitia James, our old friend who's done a ton of lawfare against the Trump administration.
00:01:55.000She's now injecting herself into that story.
00:01:58.000Endless discussion about that, but we hit that yesterday on Thought Crime, and we hit it on yesterday's show.
00:02:03.000Another interesting story the New York Times has reporting on AI, specifically that.
00:02:10.000Anthropic had all of these meetings with religious leaders.
00:02:13.000They talked to the Pope, they were talking to rabbis, other theologians, trying to convince them that Claude, their AI, was a moral agent that actually had some consciousness, that basically it's a person in some ways.
00:02:30.000I don't think we'll have time to talk about it today much.
00:02:32.000But one, the Pope, Pope Pulio, is apparently not hearing it, and he got Anthropic's leaders very annoyed that he would not concede on that point.0.67
00:02:43.000Told Anthropic, okay, well, if you're, if Claude is conscious, if Claude's real, then you're basically the worst slave owners in human history because you're creating all of these slaves for everybody and you can destroy them whenever you want and you should stop doing that.0.61
00:02:57.000And they also got very angry about that.
00:03:00.000But what I think is actually most important to talk about today, because it touches on what we were discussing with Rich Barris on Wednesday and what we led the show with yesterday, there's a lot of drama going on in the nation of France.
00:03:14.000Right now, massive riots, rioting is something of a French pastime.
00:03:18.000They do it at the drop of a hat, but this is actually a pretty severe case of it.
00:03:23.000And it evokes one of the most dramatic years in French and American history 1968.
00:03:29.000That was a year of mass student uprisings in France.
00:03:33.000It's kind of, it was very similar to, we had our own wave of riots in 68, also very similar to Floyd a Palooza, though, launching lots of left wing agitation that then shifted the entire country to the left.
00:03:46.000Well, Now it's happening again in France.
00:03:49.000We have students, heavily high school students in France, they're blockading their schools.
00:03:56.000They're setting their schools on fire.0.96
00:03:59.000They are setting firefighter trucks on fire.
00:04:02.000They are setting some of the firefighters themselves on fire, it seems.1.00
00:04:05.000Lots of wanton destruction, all coming from the nation's high school students, who you will not be surprised to hear are the most diverse cohort in French history.1.00
00:04:16.000We want to get some of these clips because they're very jarring.1.00
00:04:18.000They're all over X if you want to see them again or find additional ones.
00:04:22.000And it's not just happening in Paris, it's all over the country.
00:04:25.000Here, for example, is one of their high schools on fire in the city of Nantes.
00:06:14.000So, if you saw that there, a woman's in his face.0.53
00:06:16.000He pulls out one of those little handheld flame throwers, however they make them, blasts her right in the face, and no one really rushes into the woman's defense.
00:06:25.000A few people scream, but that's about all that happens.
00:06:28.000And there are other forms of wanton barbarism.
00:07:28.000But now, today, these are cities that have been heavily transformed by migration.
00:07:35.000The paper thin justification for what's been going on here is that the students are mad that their schools are, wait for it, you've heard this before, underfunded, and they also say that their school days are too long.
00:07:47.000It's like a twist on the old restaurant joke that they need more money for school and they need less school.
00:07:52.000They're mad about both of those things.
00:07:54.000And so as a result, they want more money for their schools, so they're setting firefighter trucks on fire.
00:08:51.000And so, for those who can't see it, it's as there's wreckage all around, there is active fires burning, and this guy, this middle aged man in a suit, is dancing while people chant, I believe they were chanting his name, Bali.
00:09:07.000Because, as you might guess, It is not just France.
00:09:12.000This is a political mode of operation that is being exported or really imported into every single country in the West.
00:09:22.000It's coming in, it's right now flaring up in France.
00:09:25.000Tomorrow it might flare up in Britain, Germany, Spain, Canada.
00:09:31.000And as all of you know, it's flared up like this in the United States.
00:09:36.000In 2020, we saw so many things like this.
00:09:39.000We saw our politicians come out and Get on their knees next to people in deference to people who mere minutes before had been torching their cities, looting their cities, rioting with a paper thin ideological justification.
00:09:55.000And that the fact that this is happening in France right now should be our reminder that this can easily, at almost the moment's notice, return to America if we have the wrong leaders in charge.
00:10:09.000We got a few emails from some of our viewers.0.73
00:10:12.000One of you, Steve, points out import the third world, and that's what you get.1.00
00:10:17.000But it is not merely, this is not merely chaos.
00:10:20.000That's what I want to get at with this, that this is not just some thin excuse and then people riot.
00:10:26.000And this is happening, it seems, with a political purpose.
00:10:30.000So it's been reported in the newspaper that the French government, they're having emergency meetings about this under President Emmanuel Macron.
00:10:43.000These reports, the government believes that these riots are being directly and deliberately stoked by a major French political party, the LFI, that is La France Insoumise.
00:10:54.000I don't know if I said that right, but it basically means France Unbowed.
00:10:58.000It is a far left party, and they have a presidential election in France next year.
00:11:04.000And they're one of the contenders that could win.
00:11:06.000We have, obviously, we like the National Front, one of the conservative parties that's against immigration.
00:11:11.000But France has a very strong far left wing that also is campaigning hard and could win.
00:11:34.000He's the kind of person who is a good warning for what we could have in America very soon if democratic socialism continues to become the dominant ideology of the Democrat Party in America.
00:11:46.000Because this guy is, he would call himself a democratic socialist.
00:11:49.000Here's what that means for Melanchthon he's proposed a 100% income tax for incomes over 360,000 euros.
00:12:20.000And it's his approach to his attitude towards immigration, towards France's basic identity.
00:12:26.000Melanchthon has said explicitly that he supports a policy of, quote, creolization of France.
00:12:33.000That is, Mass immigration and the deliberate blending, merging of all nationalities, ethnic groups, races, religions until there is no historical character to France.
00:12:47.000In fact, in 2024, Melancon said this this is a direct quote those who call themselves French by origin pose a serious problem for the cohesion of society.
00:13:00.000That is, if you are an actual French person, not merely a citizen of France, but a person whose ancestors fought in the Great War.0.95
00:13:09.000Whose ancestors maybe fought at Agincourt in the Hundred Years' War, fought against the English, if your ancestors fought in the Crusades, you're that level of French, you are a threat to society.0.99
00:13:24.000You are, you might say, the enemy.0.90
00:13:28.000And now this guy, his party, seems to be in alliance with people who are rioting across the country, burning schools down, looting shops.
00:13:37.000We didn't even play that clip, but they're looting sports stores, of course, as a side effect, setting everything on fire.
00:13:42.000Bringing this mode of violence, making sweeping demands for various left wing things.0.54
00:13:48.000He believes in weaponizing the interest in violence of far left Antifa types and migrant populations in order to get a far left agenda that includes 100% income tax, mass leveling of society, and the obliteration of the French national character as it has existed for more than a thousand years.
00:14:10.000That is what this politician believes in.0.59
00:14:13.000And this is a threat that, of course, is surging all across the West.
00:14:17.000A few things that got my attention this morning.0.68
00:14:19.000If you want an insane stat from our neighbor to the north in Canada, as of the beginning of 2025, roughly one in every 16 people in Canada had arrived in Canada within the past three years.0.78
00:14:32.000In three years, one in every 16 people was an immigrant to Canada.
00:14:37.000And of course, they had a lot of immigration before then, and they've continued to have immigration since then.
00:14:41.000And Prime Minister Mark Carney says he plans to actually increase immigration again in the future.
00:14:48.000And there's another stat that's coming out of Spain that in Spain they did their mass amnesty for millions of illegal immigrants.
00:14:56.000And it turns out since 2018, Spain has added about five and a half immigrants for every home they have built.
00:15:02.000And now today, the government has frozen rents.0.99
00:15:04.000So they're basically going to deliberately mess up their nation's economy, which they created this crisis by importing a huge number of new people to replace existing Spaniards.0.99
00:15:14.000We are seeing all across the West the deliberate fusion of left wing economic policies, left wing social policies, left wing everything policies with this breakneck rate of mass migration.1.00
00:15:28.000They see the end goal right in their sights.
00:15:32.000They see the final, let's say it, the final termination of Western civilization and the apotheosis of this globalized, democratic, diverse socialism.
00:15:46.000They see that opportunity and they're basically only failing to make progress in one country.
00:15:53.000And I think you know what that one country is.
00:15:54.000It is right now in the United States of America due to the policies of this administration.
00:15:59.000That meanwhile, here we have the border.
00:16:04.000We've seen Antifa elements are actually getting arrested and thrown in prison when they tried to do this low scale terrorism that they're getting away with in France.
00:16:13.000We're seeing record numbers of arrests by ICE.
00:16:19.000The Supreme Court just upheld sending illegal immigrants to third countries if their home country is being difficult to get taken back.0.98
00:16:27.000You can send them to a third country.0.86
00:16:28.000The Supreme Court just said it's fine to do that at least until we hear the case, which will be next year.
00:16:33.000One of those radical immigration lawyers says it's a devastating decision.
00:16:41.000So, we've talked a lot over the last couple of days about the problem of winning too much.0.62
00:16:46.000That because we've won so hard on immigration, we've won so hard on the trans issue, we're winning so much on crime, that voters aren't thinking about it.
00:16:55.000They're not thinking about what could return overnight if the left has power again.
00:16:59.000And we're seeing the signals from every other country, from France, from Canada, from Spain, from Britain.
00:17:07.000In fact, they are more radical than ever, and they are very happy to make political alliance with youthful Antifa, heavily third world imported agitators to transform your country.0.92
00:17:19.000So, one way we can try to make sure people are aware of the stakes, we need to be highlighting these things.0.95
00:17:26.000We need to send the message you are one election away from your entire world being swept away by the people who want to destroy it.
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00:18:51.000Jonathan Keeperman, Lomez on X, but he's leaning into having his new post-docs identity because I don't think anyone has benefited more from being doxed than you, Jonathan, because it came out and you're like, oh, we have this super guy who's like a hot college professor.
00:19:10.000All of his students talk about how hot he is and he's super smart and great.
00:19:13.000And man, I don't know that any doxing is going to be a college athlete, okay?
00:19:37.000We always want to have you on, actually.
00:19:38.000But the specific justification you have your show with Chris Rufo, another friend of ours.
00:19:43.000And you guys were discussing this big debate that happened after the Beau French tweet, the infamous one about the football game, heavily Indian student section.
00:19:52.000And you guys had an episode in the last few days on, as you call it, The Indian question, which is Indian immigration, it's clearly upset a lot of people, yet at the same time, it doesn't hit all of the usual things that we talk about with immigration.
00:20:07.000And we got this email, as it happens, just a few minutes ago from one of our viewers, Priscilla.
00:20:11.000And I thought this would be a good way to kick it off.
00:20:13.000She says, Our kids moved to the Dallas area five years ago, fleeing California.
00:20:18.000They bought a house, they joined a church, they planned to stay forever.
00:20:21.000But in the past few years, as the H 1B visa program became more pronounced, they noticed that in their neighborhood, there were A very large number of Indians, also a very large number of Muslims.
00:20:33.000They talk about going to their local target in, she thinks, the Plano area and not hearing a single person speak English.
00:20:42.000And now they're starting to feel they might need to move out of Texas.
00:20:46.000So you talked about this the other day.
00:20:48.000What is the phenomenon that we're capturing here?
00:20:50.000That it's not that they fear crime exactly, it's not that they fear some of the usual stuff we worry about with immigration, but they feel very alienated.
00:21:02.000Well, I think this is why Indians in particular are such a unique case and why people are having sort of trouble having a meaningful and sober conversation about this.
00:21:13.000Because Indians don't, like you said, have a sort of typical story that we assign to other groups that are experiencing mass immigration.
00:21:24.000They get good jobs, they contribute to the economy, their crime rate is close to zero, although, you know, with, of course, some exceptions.
00:21:34.000They seem interested in American culture.
00:21:36.000They are what's called well integrated or acculturated, which is different than assimilation.
00:21:42.000That's a separate category of concerns that we can talk about.
00:21:46.000So they're doing all the right things, Indian Americans who are coming here.
00:21:49.000They're doing all the things we expect from immigrant groups.
00:21:53.000Nonetheless, their numbers are really high and have risen dramatically in a super short period of time.1.00
00:22:03.000And when I say they're really high, As a relative measure of the total population, it's low.
00:22:09.000There's something like one and a half percent of the total population.
00:22:12.000About five million Americans identify as Indian.
00:22:17.000But here's the thing 3.2 million of those are foreign born, and well over half have come here since 2010.
00:22:28.000So this is a dramatic change in how people who are Americans and who have lived here for a long time and might have moved to Dallas, let's say 15 years ago.
00:22:39.000Are suddenly looking around and going, wait a minute, something dramatic has changed.
00:22:44.000They're noticing that and they're reacting to it in a variety of different ways.
00:22:48.000Some of those reactions are pathological and harmful, and we don't want to encourage that.
00:22:53.000Other of these reactions are totally normal and legitimate and should be taken into consideration when we're making policy around this and considering people's choices about the world and what they want it to look like.
00:23:05.000So there's a lot of sort of complicated parts here.
00:23:08.000And I think it's important that, firstly, we don't run away from this conversation.
00:23:12.000It can't be that just because it's delicate and just because It might upset people's sensibilities that we therefore aren't allowed to talk about it.
00:23:21.000That's how these problems actually get worse.
00:23:33.000They actually do, they compete well in school, they do follow the law.
00:23:37.000You're not really likely to get mugged by an Indian immigrant.
00:23:41.000And so, and it also seems like, I'll be frank, it does seem like some of the reaction to high levels of Indian immigration online, it's almost like.0.99
00:23:51.000I'll be frank, it's like people finally found something where they can be a little, they feel they can get away with being nastier than they've historically been able to with other immigrant groups.0.99
00:24:00.000And I think that's turning a lot of people off.1.00
00:24:01.000So, if this is a delegate topic and we can't run away from it, how should we be telling people?
00:24:08.000How should you talk about Indian immigration in a way that's not going to just make a bunch of people angry, make a bunch of people offended, and make us lose?
00:24:15.000Turn off normal people who don't want to be haters.
00:24:18.000Yeah, I mean, I, you know, look, I don't have the magic wand.
00:24:21.000I can't tell people sort of rhetorically.
00:24:25.000I think people just ought to be mindful.
00:24:28.000They ought to, firstly, understand the facts.
00:24:30.000I think a lot of people just refuse to acknowledge what's true versus what's not true, understanding the true scope of it.
00:24:37.000And I think it's important, too, that people understand also both Indian Americans who are sensitive to this conversation, as well as non Indian Americans who are suddenly looking around going, This new thing is happening that I don't understand and that I feel uncomfortable with.
00:25:13.000But Indians, unlike Mexican Americans, by and large, I'm talking about group levels, I'm not talking about individuals, of course, are occupying parts of the economy that are highly visible, that are highly conspicuous.0.98
00:25:27.000They are managers at big companies.1.00
00:25:47.000And so I think, fortunately, the solution to this problem is actually really straightforward and one that everybody should be able to get behind, including Indian immigrants who are here, which is.
00:26:01.000We need to turn off the immigration spigot.1.00
00:26:03.000That's really all that cashes out from this conversation.0.99
00:26:07.000We are at a point in which foreign born population in the United States is at the highest it has ever been.
00:26:15.000There's a slight caveat there, which it was at the highest it's ever been at the beginning of the Trump administration of this second term.
00:26:22.000But this current picture of immigration, the highest foreign born population that's ever been, we've been through five decades of unprecedented mass immigration that in scale, Puts to shame the Ellis Island wave that came before it and immigration waves that came before it.0.87
00:26:39.000In our history, what we've done as a response to these massive immigration waves is very simple turn it off and let the people who are here do this thing called assimilation, in which the social boundaries around these groups just become absorbed into the mainstream population.0.77
00:27:00.000That's all that needs to happen here so that everybody can get acclimated in some ways to this new experience.0.96
00:27:08.000And people who are here who don't want to go through What will be a sort of long and difficult process of assimilation, they go back to where they come from.
00:27:26.000We talk about that because the previous high that we reached before was the peak of the tail end of the Ellis Island era that we've all heard about.
00:27:34.000We got about to the same percentage right around the end of World War I.
00:27:38.000And then the reaction of our politicians was, There was a big nativist backlash to this.
00:27:49.000It kind of unleashed the greatest period of American history.0.77
00:27:52.000That's the era where we win World War II.
00:27:54.000It's the era where we land a man on the moon.0.56
00:27:56.000It's the era where I would note we actually went, we got rid of Jim Crow.
00:28:01.000We went through the civil rights process.
00:28:03.000We can debate that went too far, but we got rid of the bad stuff as well, that we kind of created this unified people.
00:28:10.000That was not completely obsessed with all these different sub national divisions because people used to complain a lot more about Italian Americans, Irish Americans, Jewish Americans, Poles, Eastern Europeans.
00:28:23.000And we digested all of that and we created a new thriving country.
00:28:57.000And some people are just voluntarily leaving as well.
00:29:01.000And this gets at something we've talked about the last couple of days that is a big issue with our party, which is when you look at the polls, if you look at the midterm polling, people just say, What are your top issues?
00:29:12.000And they just say immigration is not an issue for them anymore.0.73
00:29:34.000Crimes at record lows, and that there's no gratitude for that.0.95
00:29:37.000There's only just, oh, not an issue anymore.
00:29:41.000Do you feel that we actually are confronting this problem on the right of calling it winning too much, as Trump would say, or you might call it, uh, We're suffering from success that we are able to solve problems that we run on and then lose elections because of it.
00:29:58.000And if that is a problem, how on earth do we solve it?
00:30:22.000They will necessarily, but it's possible that isn't necessarily a direct, you know, cause from the fact that a lot of these problems are being solved.
00:30:32.000It is true that people have short memories.
00:30:35.000And it's sort of paradoxically the case that when people are sort of in chaotic situations, once they remove themselves from that chaotic situation, they sort of forget the pain and difficulty of being in that chaotic situation.
00:30:49.000And now there's a new normal that they're used to.
00:30:51.000And I think that's kind of what's happening here.
00:30:55.000And I think the messaging around this ought to lean into this fact.
00:32:41.000Would you actually confront the affordability thing or would you just try to go?
00:32:45.000It's morning in America, wins on all of these things.
00:32:48.000How would you cut the final midterm ad if you are Ken Paxton in Texas going against Talarico?
00:32:54.000I'm saying that we have lived through multiple decades of failed governance.
00:33:03.000Both the liberals and the GOP of old failed to solve essential problems facing the American people going back.
00:33:12.000Essentially, to the beginning of the century.
00:33:15.000And we are going one by one addressing these problems in order.
00:33:19.000I'm reminded right now of the, of course, when Butler, right before Trump was shot at, what was he doing?
00:33:29.000He was pointing at a graph of the immigration numbers, I believe, if I have that right, and showing what was done in terms of immigration.
00:33:39.000I think you demonstrate what was done, what accomplishments have been made, especially on these key questions, things like.
00:33:46.000Crime, things like immigration, things like these social and cultural DEI measures, these anti white policies that had become institutionalized over the course of the last few liberal regimes.
00:33:58.000And then you move on, here's what we're going to be tackling next.
00:34:01.000Here's what we're working on right now things like affordability.
00:34:04.000So I think you can do both at the same time.
00:34:07.000The other piece of this is that you have to remind voters what the alternative is.
00:34:12.000And you have to say, look, even if there is some displeasure.
00:34:16.000You have with this administration if you're on the right, and you have some idea about what the perfect second Trump administration could have been in some perfect ideal world.
00:34:28.000That's not the right comparison to make.
00:34:31.000The right comparison to make is what is Trump doing right now versus what would have a Kamala Harris presidency have looked like?
00:34:40.000More open borders, even more runaway mass immigration, even more runaway anti white policies up and down the democratic institutions and establishment.0.94
00:35:37.000White Pill, right here, which is a tremendous sort of biography, a sort of almost oral biography of what's gone on over the last couple of decades on the right to get us to the position we're in and reasons to be optimistic about the way we're going.
00:35:51.000So I encourage everybody to please pick up these books, go to our website, passage.press.
00:37:29.000We always have our best conversations, the most dynamic, most unexpected stuff in the final hour, and that's, of course, because it's our Ask Us Anything hour when the subscribers to Charlie Kirk exclusives get to call in or write in and ask.
00:38:20.000So, Ellie asks, with all of the data centers popping up and the AI craze, how would you sell AI to someone who's worried about the effects in terms of pollution on the environment, losing water, various neighborhoods increasing their water bills for middle class families, and also the health disadvantages from all of those data centers, or health, sorry, misread that, health disadvantages from the data centers running consistently?
00:39:36.000People I talk to say the water use, sure, if you're in Arizona, that might be a relevant thing.
00:39:42.000But if you're by the Great Lakes, that's not really a defining thing.
00:39:45.000They'll talk about the environment, they'll talk about noise.
00:39:49.000And I guess I've seen specific anecdotes, but for the most part, like what's funny is people would love to have a steel plant built in their town.
00:39:57.000And those are vastly louder and more economically or more environmentally disruptive than a data center.
00:40:03.000So I feel like the opposition is getting at something deeper.
00:40:07.000And that's what makes it difficult to sell people on this.
00:40:09.000That I don't think it's really the environmental cause that is on a deep level making even conservatives wary of data centers.
00:40:19.000I think it's that on a mental level, people intuit that there's something very scary about the AI era that's approaching us and they're pushing back against it.
00:40:29.000Because you were, you were, Told me about this article, Danny.
00:40:33.000Apparently, you can just try to bribe people and they'll turn it down.
00:40:38.000This town in Pennsylvania is being offered $10,000 to every single resident if a data center is built and they're still pushing back on it.
00:40:47.000Yeah, if you're looking at the breakdown of that, I don't understand why these people would be against that, especially for a small town and how much it would bring in to their town, why they'd still be against it over health concerns that are really kind of.
00:41:13.000I think there's something real about it.
00:41:14.000But comparatively to other things, it doesn't really make sense in the grant, and especially economically, what it could bring to your area.
00:41:20.000And this is why President Trump, he's been, we talked about this yesterday that President Trump, even as a lot of people on the right and the left, they're starting to posture against data centers, they're saying they're going to pause builds, they're going, they're, Basically, responding to this populist anger against it.
00:41:35.000And what's funny is President Trump, who is certainly a populist leader, he is not, he's one of his strengths, I would say, is that he has always marched to his own beat.
00:41:46.000He says we need to win this race, that if we lose it, China will overtake us.
00:41:50.000They will become the stronger country.0.84
00:41:52.000And that certainly, I think, is part of the pitch you have to make that this is a process where it's important that the US remain the number one country.
00:42:01.000And if this is part of the US being the number one country, we've got to find a way to make it work.
00:42:05.000There's another article I would encourage people to check out.
00:42:07.000I know it's the New York Times, but it's a writer I've been wanting to have on this show.
00:42:58.000It's producing benefits for mainly tech elites who live off in the Bay Area.
00:43:04.000And I think if you're going to get people over time, your town economy does grow though, massively.
00:43:08.000Like we've seen at least while you're building it, while you're building it, yeah.
00:43:12.000But nevertheless, I think it's, I think you really need to, I think people who support AI, they need to find a way to articulate why your town.
00:43:20.000Getting plugged into the AI revolution is not even just going to be a one off benefit, like, oh, $10,000.
00:43:28.000I wonder if these people would feel differently if instead of $10,000, it was, we will pay for your town's property taxes indefinitely.
00:43:37.000Or we will give you guys some $500 AI dividend every three months indefinitely.
00:43:44.000Something that makes people feel, oh, this is something that's not just making everyone in Silicon Valley really rich, it's making Our country is rich.
00:43:54.000That's where I would have to think about things.
00:43:56.000And, or that's where I would try to urge them to go.
00:43:58.000And there's also President Trump's idea, which is we just need to rename it something new, super intelligence.
00:44:03.000I think he's getting at something true, though, which is that AI and data center, new brand.0.95
00:44:25.000It's, It's not going to work, I don't think, but it is a pretty funny, interesting idea.
00:44:31.000I think it's a very interesting thing.
00:44:32.000And if you guys have any thoughts about it, definitely send us emails.
00:44:35.000We'll see if there are some good ideas on how do you win people over on AI.
00:44:40.000Or if you are an AI skeptic, I know a lot of you are, is there something that would make you change your mind?
00:44:44.000Or are you saying absolutely not, no matter what?
00:44:48.000But if you're also a blue collar worker and a builder, I can't see how you'd be against those kinds of things.
00:44:53.000Those have been some of the people who, like electricians, there's huge demand.
00:44:56.000If you are an apprentice electrician, Building all of these is a gigantic bonanza, one of the biggest bonanzas we've ever seen for blue collar workers.0.60
00:45:04.000But if you're a white collar worker, one, you're not working on building them and you're worried they might automate away your job.0.75
00:45:11.000So I very much understand what drives these concerns.0.59
00:45:13.000And I think you really need to think seriously about what will sell people on this because I don't think just making funny images to post on X is going to be enough, even though the images are really funny.
00:45:34.000He said, I'm a skeptic, but if they really want to build a data center in town, they should give residents an ownership stake with dividends in the parent company, like getting paid in stock.
00:45:43.000I think that actually would be a very good way.
00:45:45.000I think, in general, one of the most conservatizing phenomena you can have in society is to give people ownership stakes in things.
00:45:55.000And I think everyone gets some stock in our big AI companies is a great way to make people think, These aren't distant tech companies.
00:46:04.000These are American companies that we have a stake in the success of.
00:46:08.000I think that's a very good way to pitch that to people.
00:46:52.000This is the only politician that's done like a full list.
00:46:56.000He tweeted out if anybody wants to go read about it, it's actually a pretty good in depth analysis on his plan.
00:47:02.000And yeah, he's basically the only conservative politician that's really, or someone running candidate wise, that's really touched on it whatsoever.
00:47:08.000Tiki pointed out that her husband is a mechanical engineer and they were building data centers in the 2000s.
00:47:13.000I think one of the myths is that they are a new.
00:47:16.000You said there's one right by the office here.
00:48:37.000A big thing about them is one of the justifications because we effectively have legal nationwide sports betting right now, which it used to be regulated on a state by state basis.
00:48:46.000And a justification for this is that these sites, they're not gambling.
00:48:52.000It's that, as you say, you're trading.
00:48:55.000Event futures contracts that this is about prediction markets, and they'll even do this with sports or the weather.
00:49:00.000You have this prediction market on what these things will be, you can do a prediction market on who will win the Super Bowl and things like that.
00:49:09.000I think it's a mix of that they want to set a certain regulatory framework to make sure they don't get hammered because the federal government could mess up their business overnight if they felt like it.
00:49:19.000But I think you are getting at something else.
00:49:20.000I think people are realizing these things have massively exploded in popularity, a lot of them are.
00:49:41.000Yeah, I mean, over and over until they eventually win and it gives them that high and then they'll do it all over again.
00:49:47.000And it worries me a lot in that it's an endless cycle.
00:49:50.000Because gambling addiction is a real problem and can absolutely destroy lives in very upsetting ways.
00:49:58.000And when you muddle the lines, I think the thing about prediction markets is a lot of people, we fancy ourselves being good at seeing the future.
00:50:07.000And with sports, I think people have internalized the idea that sports is pretty hard to guess what's going to happen, that Vegas is really good at setting their lines.
00:50:16.000Some people still get very addicted to it.
00:50:18.000But like politics, everyone feels like they're a deeply insightful political pundit who can see things that the expert analysts in DC can't see.
00:50:27.000And I worry that that's going to suck in a lot of people.
00:50:29.000They're going to get addicted and they're going to lose a lot of money on these things.0.93
00:50:34.000And that's on top of the fact some of these white sites, some of the explicit sports gambling ones especially, they'll just straight up ban you if you're too good at it.0.56
00:50:46.000So, what was happening was, um, they would, you can bet on the, like in baseball, you can bet on the next pitch will it be a strike or a ball.
00:50:53.000So, there were guys that were going to games and just being on a phone call with their buddies.
00:51:09.000And they were making a couple hundred thousand dollars till they eventually got banned from all of them.
00:51:14.000Um, But yeah, there is a market for this.
00:51:18.000And so, Kalshi and Polymark are different because those are technically like they claim it's like a stock because you buy it shares instead of like on sports books.
00:52:26.000It's something we need to be thinking about.
00:52:27.000We actually got an email question from Lucas Danny, who actually does want to know what my favorite World War II plane is because I threw it out there.
00:52:35.000And the answer is I actually know the answer off the top of my head.
00:52:41.000It is a carrier based fighter aircraft we did in World War II because we were not doing so great early in World War II.
00:52:48.000And then we discovered a crash landed Japanese Zero and they incorporated some of the findings on the Zero to make our own better version of it.0.84
00:52:56.000And then we turned the tide in the Pacific and we shot down all the Japanese planes and won the war.0.87
00:53:02.000And it was the one I flew all the time when I would play Microsoft Combat Flight Simulator on my computer back in the year 2002, which is about when you were born, probably.
00:53:09.000Yeah, that was the exact year I was born.
00:53:29.000I talk about jobs and industries on this show all the time, but I didn't expect to find an entire skills trade community on TikTok.
00:53:37.000Plumbers, electricians, builders, and contractors sharing the work they do every day.
00:53:42.000And it went way beyond tips and tricks.
00:53:44.000People were sharing their craft, connecting with local contractors, and talking about how they were building their businesses and growing their teams.
00:53:51.000It opened my eyes to how people in the trades are using TikTok to share their skills, make connections, and find new opportunities.
00:53:57.000I remember thinking, this is exactly what we need more of.
00:54:01.000People sharing what they know and creating opportunities for others.
00:54:03.000And I never expected to find a community like this.
00:54:08.000You start with something you know, and suddenly you're finding a whole new side of it that surprises you and leaves you wanting to know more.
00:54:13.000Your next discovery is waiting for you on TikTok.
00:54:16.000Learn more at TikTok.comslash discover more.
00:54:22.000We just got a great email saying from Abby, who said, I think it was the same Abby who asked the question.
00:54:27.000And she says, Caboose, thank you for the fun music pics during the break.
00:54:31.000To which Caboose messaged me, he said, I'm just a button pusher.
00:55:01.000Well, some of his favorite stuff to do, and you might know this better than me, Danny, but I remember him talking, one of his life changing experiences was.
00:55:09.000He went to the Grand Canyon and the Grand Canyon.
00:55:11.000I went there again recently with a friend from another country.
00:55:18.000It really warps your perspective because of how big it is.
00:55:22.000But Charlie specifically, what he did is he talked about he did the actual hike down to the bottom and he either hiked along the bottom or took a boat trip down.
00:55:32.000And he says the bottom of the Grand Canyon is that really blows your mind when you're at the bottom of it.
00:55:53.000But also, if you drive into it from the north, so go to the Grand Canyon, and then on your way back, there's Oak Creek Canyon you drive through.
00:56:01.000And that, I had no idea that was there.
00:56:04.000I just knew there was this narrow driving path into Sedona.
00:56:07.000That, it's like basically driving along the side of the Grand Canyon or something, and then with way more trees.
00:57:13.000So here's my question, guys, because I'm on a local campaign in my town for supervisor, and we're noticing something that we're seeing in federal campaigns.
00:57:22.000Republicans, for some reason, don't want to come out to vote.
00:57:58.000And Andrew talked about calling Congress back, do a temporary freeze on gas taxes, on diesel taxes to fight that way.
00:58:07.000I think another thing you could do is make a big deal out of the fact that we could expand our refining capacity.
00:58:12.000When I talk to a friend of mine who's really knowledgeable about the energy sector, he says we would have more diesel and cheaper diesel if we had another big fat refinery in the US.
00:58:23.000That we haven't built a big refinery since the 70s.
00:58:27.000We've expanded those individual refineries, but.
00:58:30.000You could get more if you just built a whole new refinery, maybe in a new location, so that maybe closer to where we might get oil from Canada, get it from newly developed stuff in North Dakota, whatever.
00:58:42.000If you build a new refinery, you have expanded capacity, you can get it out there more cheaply.
00:58:48.000And I think if you made a big show out of, oh, here's our push to build this and that will permanently lower gas prices, that would be something.
00:58:55.000And I don't think keep telling people, give us more time, we'll fix it, is never going to work because we've also been told that this war would last a month, then two months.
01:00:18.000And we talked about this on the show the other day that if the GOP would actually just start putting stuff up for vote, that would be massive and just make the Democrats vote against it.
01:00:26.000But in D.C., voting on things actually works.
01:00:28.000No one is impressed that you're off campaigning in your district.
01:01:18.000Oh, and so if you go to tpaction.com, you can download an app on your computer and you can be texting voters and emailing voters from your computer as well.
01:01:27.000Okay, all right, that's what I've done.
01:01:28.000That in the past, yeah, they've appified even full computers, which is something that annoys me a little bit.
01:01:33.000I must say, I'm very I wish we just had X Windows XP from 2002.
01:01:36.000Well, because you have like some weird old computer instead of just like a normal, like oh, a Mac.
01:01:41.000I'm not getting a Mac, I am never giving into the Mac Mania, but yes, so that's good to know.
01:02:07.000So if you go to tpusafaith.comslash map, and then another slash, if you just search Turning Point Faith Church map in Google or whatever, you'll find it.
01:02:17.000And there actually is a map of every church that is affiliated, or at least, I don't know, maybe there's some new ones that aren't on it yet, but I'm looking at this map.
01:03:35.000I know that I've been seeing a lot of things in different spheres about like the base isn't super motivated because of like Iran and gas prices.
01:03:44.000But I was wondering, in terms of the senatorial candidates, like if they pledged to vote John Thune out of leadership, would that be something that would help motivate to bring the base out?
01:03:55.000And also, they've been really doing a phenomenal job with the fraud abuse and like clawing back all of this money and funding all this Medicare and Medicaid fraud.
01:04:05.000And, like, you know how they have a debt clock with how much debt we're in?
01:04:08.000Why don't they have a money clock with how much money we're clawing back and saving from all this fraud that we've discovered?
01:04:15.000You want some way of visually representing the amount of fraud they're able to discover or the amount of waste they're able to dial back.
01:04:24.000It's, I mean, just on USAID alone, that was tens of billions of dollars being funneled towards all sorts of bizarre causes outside of the country.
01:05:11.000And on top of that, I think something that also goes into it is you're going into an election where your opponent is the Democrats.
01:05:18.000It feels difficult to say you'll improve your prospects by turning your fire on your own side.
01:05:24.000And if you want examples of that, there are some Republicans who decide, I'm going to turn my fire on President Trump to try to keep myself.
01:05:31.000The other problem is a lot of voters don't actually see that the Senate has been at fault for a lot of issues by just not working.
01:05:38.000Instead, All the blame on some issues has just gone straight to President Trump.
01:05:43.000So then calling out Thune, the voters already don't see that fully.
01:05:48.000They don't really blame him for a lot of stuff.
01:05:49.000They blame Trump because he's obviously the head of the party and all that.
01:05:53.000So, going after him really doesn't do what we'd want it to do at this time.
01:05:58.000And I think also just going after your own side, especially in an election cycle, is never really a good idea.
01:06:03.000If we wanted to do that, we probably should have done that a long time ago.
01:06:07.000Never put him in this position to begin with.
01:06:09.000But at this point, this close to the election, I don't think that would help us.
01:07:40.000If we're talking about gas prices, that should be a big part of our message is when Democrats pretend to care about gas prices, they are pretending.
01:07:49.000They want policies that will permanently make gas way more expensive.
01:07:54.000And they'll trot out for this election cycle and just go, oh, Trump, he made your gas more expensive.
01:09:52.000I've heard him on the Seth Liebchen show way back when I moved here in 2016.
01:09:56.000So I know he's been around for a long time.0.78
01:09:58.000But after you guys had on the Islam apostate guy who is actually converted to Christianity, you know, that's a difference than somebody who says he wants to reform Islam but is still a Muslim.0.75
01:10:13.000That's like a conflict of logic in my mind.0.85
01:10:28.000But ultimately, we also like to acknowledge when we talk about the danger of Islam, we're talking about Islam writ large as a major phenomenon, that it has these ideological tenets that generally make it hostile to the West.1.00
01:10:44.000That means when you make your country more Muslim, it's a problem.0.97
01:10:48.000But at the same time, not all individual people who call themselves Muslims are a problem, not all of them are created equal.0.98
01:11:07.000And even when Charlie was sounding the alarm about Islam, as he often did, he would often have that caveat of, I know specifically Dr. Jasser and consider him a friend.
01:11:28.000You're so honest and humble and ethical.
01:11:30.000But also, a lot of people have questions about Islam.
01:11:33.000And you are a faithful Muslim, but you approach it in a way where you believe that Islam needs a reformation.
01:11:41.000And so, Dave, as you say, that there is a difference between reform Islam and leave Islam.
01:11:47.000But I think we can also agree yeah, if Islam were to significantly reform itself and its core ideological commitments to be more moderate, to be more pro West, to leave behind those aspects of it that create recurring conflict with the West.0.62
01:12:06.000And more to the point, it is frankly just better to have a patriotic, ethical, pro American person who calls himself a Muslim than an anti American, open borders, wreck the West Democrat.0.75
01:12:19.000And I think that's the most important thing to emphasize.0.67
01:12:23.000Okay, so I understand that, all right?
01:12:25.000But as a biblical Christian, the difference between when we reformed Christianity, the way we did that is we went back to the book and where we were not obeying the book.
01:12:36.000We complied, and that's how we reformed Christianity.0.76
01:14:15.000If something felt like it was wasting time, he cut it off.
01:14:17.000He was not pulling out his phone and aimlessly, he wasn't letting meetings go on.
01:14:21.000Forever, it was let's get in, let's do this point of business, and let's get out.
01:14:25.000I think one of the most amazing things about Charlie is he did so much, and yet, actually, when his work was done, he could head home and he really knew how to separate his time, and that included not bloating things out unnecessarily.