The Charlie Kirk Show - October 03, 2026


THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 145 — Crime at Cornell? Top TV Shows?

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00:00:03.000 My name is Charlie Kirk.
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00:01:17.000 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Thought Crime Thursday.
00:01:25.000 It's been a wild couple of days, a busy couple of days around here.
00:01:31.000 A lot of thought crimes have been happening, a lot of thought crimes have eaten up the nation, a lot of thought crimes that have been committed by Us as usual, but also by other people, and we're going to get into a lot of that.
00:01:40.000 Who we have right now?
00:01:42.000 We've got everyone.
00:01:42.000 Tyler came in mid opening.
00:01:44.000 Oh my gosh, he actually arrived.
00:01:45.000 Wait, wait, Tyler.
00:01:47.000 He arrived.
00:01:47.000 How did you manifest him somehow?
00:01:50.000 Landing the plane.
00:01:51.000 And then.
00:01:52.000 I just helicoptered right in.
00:01:54.000 Andrew is off doing something cool with families or whatever the heck you people have.
00:02:00.000 And that means.
00:02:01.000 Cole vet.
00:02:02.000 Cole vet.
00:02:03.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:02:04.000 Cole vet is off calling with the vets or something.
00:02:08.000 And so we have Mikey.
00:02:10.000 Mikey McCoy.
00:02:11.000 Rejoins the squad, which is great because I think he's going to have very strong opinions on an exciting first topic.
00:02:18.000 Very powerful stuff.
00:02:19.000 I'm the deep bench recruit.
00:02:21.000 Exactly.
00:02:22.000 Oh, we're missing four or five people.
00:02:25.000 The deep state.
00:02:25.000 Yeah, something like that.
00:02:26.000 Deep state Mikey.
00:02:27.000 Deep state Mikey.
00:02:28.000 Deep bench Mikey.
00:02:30.000 Deep knowledge of television Mikey because I think we want to start with something a little bit lighter.
00:02:34.000 We were debating between this and an extremely heavy topic.
00:02:37.000 So I think we're going to ease people in.
00:02:39.000 And that is the classic.
00:02:42.000 Discussion topic of the New York Times made a list.
00:02:44.000 So everyone argues about whether the list was correct.
00:02:47.000 And this time, the list that the New York Times made was the top television shows of the entire millennium.
00:02:55.000 Wow.
00:02:55.000 The first 26 years of the war.
00:02:56.000 I haven't seen this at all.
00:02:57.000 So I'm really interested.
00:02:59.000 Okay.
00:02:59.000 I want them to make a list of the top.
00:03:01.000 Horrible videos.
00:03:01.000 Horrible shows.
00:03:02.000 What's cool about the New York Times when they do it, I know they're annoying, but the New York Times has enough gravitas, enough prestige, they can get pretty serious people and they can get a lot of them to respond.
00:03:12.000 And so they got.
00:03:13.000 About 500 television professionals to vote on what they think the best 100 TV shows of this basically of this century, so the past 26 years.
00:03:24.000 And in the least surprising development ever, they said that number one was that's right, it's not The Sopranos because The Sopranos debuted in 1999, it doesn't qualify.
00:03:34.000 So, we had so much to set.
00:03:37.000 What's that?
00:03:37.000 Wait, wait, Blake, let's set parameters real quick here because, like, typically The Sopranos is seen as.
00:03:44.000 You know, the start of the golden age of television.
00:03:46.000 So, are the parameters from like January 1st, 2000 on?
00:03:51.000 Is that what we're saying?
00:03:52.000 Yes, exactly. 0.97
00:03:52.000 The Sopranos actually debuted in January 1999. 0.97
00:03:55.000 So, even though by far the better part of its run occurred this century, it has to debut this millennium.
00:04:03.000 And so, it got cut out.
00:04:04.000 And instead, the number one show, actually, since you haven't seen it, Tyler, can you guess what the number one show was?
00:04:10.000 I just cheated.
00:04:11.000 I saw it.
00:04:12.000 Oh, you cheated.
00:04:13.000 Mikey, have you cheated and looked at the list?
00:04:15.000 I'm looking at it right now.
00:04:16.000 You guys are watching it.
00:04:17.000 It probably would have been one of my top guesses, though.
00:04:20.000 All righty.
00:04:21.000 And I appreciate it because Charlie actually loved the show.
00:04:24.000 Oh, did he?
00:04:25.000 Charlie?
00:04:25.000 I never thought of Charlie as a guy who'd watch TV.
00:04:27.000 So, the fact he watched.
00:04:28.000 It at all is probably pretty remarkable.
00:04:30.000 Yeah, he didn't watch a ton of stuff, but I always thought it was really interesting how often he talked about how great this show was.
00:04:36.000 Okay, well, for those, we haven't said it actually.
00:04:38.000 The number one show, unsurprisingly, since it wasn't Sopranos, it was Breaking Bad, the chemistry teacher with lung cancer becomes meth dealer show set in Albuquerque, our kind of crummier version of Phoenix to the East. 0.82
00:04:55.000 No offense to Albuquerqueans, but it is true. 0.96
00:04:58.000 And so, number two was The Wire.
00:05:00.000 Wait, wait, wait, wait, before you go on.
00:05:02.000 Did you know about this?
00:05:03.000 So, a guy did a super cut of Breaking Bad all its seasons into a two and a half hour long movie.
00:05:12.000 What?
00:05:13.000 Did you know?
00:05:14.000 Have you seen this?
00:05:14.000 Wait, he did a super cut of what?
00:05:16.000 So, I never got to see it because it gets knocked off the internet as fast as it gets.
00:05:19.000 I'm sure if you have access to the dark web like Blake does, you could probably find this.
00:05:26.000 So, you can probably find this, Blake.
00:05:28.000 I can't.
00:05:28.000 I don't know how to do it.
00:05:30.000 But there was a guy, a fan movie, he Spliced all of it together, and apparently it makes perfect sense.
00:05:36.000 So he took all the subplots and all the stuff he took out, but like all the main themes for two and a half hours are squished into that.
00:05:45.000 And it's just the whole show and it's one movie.
00:05:48.000 And it's supposedly like an incredible movie that feels like it would be really disorienting.
00:05:55.000 Like a lot goes on in Breaking Bad.
00:05:57.000 They just cut out season three or something.
00:05:59.000 Again, I haven't watched it, but I've just seen the commentary on it.
00:06:02.000 This guy, and you can pull up on IMDb.
00:06:05.000 It's Breaking Bad stitched into one two hour supercut.
00:06:09.000 There's a link.
00:06:11.000 I don't know, but it's been kicked off the internet.
00:06:13.000 It was on the internet for years.
00:06:15.000 I'll find it.
00:06:16.000 I'll find it.
00:06:17.000 And I'm telling you, I've always wanted to watch it.
00:06:19.000 So if you find it and you get access to it somehow into a box, I really want to watch it because people at the time, I think this was like 2017, 2018, people were raving about it.
00:06:30.000 Yeah.
00:06:31.000 And it's.
00:06:31.000 I've heard about this.
00:06:33.000 You've heard about it, Mikey?
00:06:34.000 I have.
00:06:34.000 Have all of you guys watched it?
00:06:35.000 Because I have a confession.
00:06:37.000 I watched the first two episodes of Breaking Bad.
00:06:39.000 And it wasn't really for me.
00:06:40.000 I kind of stopped after that.
00:06:42.000 The only thing I remember was them dissolving that guy's body, and he didn't, he used the bathtub instead of the plastic thing.
00:06:48.000 And so it eats through.
00:06:49.000 That's the only thing I remember.
00:06:51.000 I really got into it.
00:06:52.000 And here's the reason why I got into it.
00:06:54.000 Oh, that was great.
00:06:55.000 There's not a ton of shows that are set in the Southwest.
00:06:58.000 Like, there's just not a lot.
00:07:00.000 And yeah, New Mexico is like New Mexico, but it's kind of like I have some family in New Mexico.
00:07:05.000 It's like such a weird place.
00:07:06.000 It's such an interesting place.
00:07:08.000 And I actually think, find it like the entire setting.
00:07:10.000 Got it.
00:07:11.000 Of a show that's intriguing.
00:07:14.000 To me, that's like it's set in Albuquerque.
00:07:16.000 I feel like we, I feel like America, as wait, you found it already.
00:07:19.000 Oh, nice, send it over to him.
00:07:21.000 I feel like, as like, guys, ask, ask, like, if you ever need anything on the internet, just ask.
00:07:28.000 I never even knew this existed.
00:07:29.000 I found it before you finished commenting on it.
00:07:32.000 So, yeah, I just put it in the chat.
00:07:34.000 It probably wasn't even that hard to find, right?
00:07:36.000 I feel like, by the way, all of you who are watching live should comment on what your number one show would be.
00:07:41.000 And you just have to have this, yeah, it's this.
00:07:44.000 Tyler, they're called the skills that pay the bills.
00:07:47.000 All right.
00:07:47.000 I'm just saying.
00:07:48.000 And if you have that link, too, because I'm never going to watch this show.
00:07:50.000 It's an hour.
00:07:51.000 It's an hour.
00:07:51.000 Okay.
00:07:52.000 All right.
00:07:53.000 I can't wait.
00:07:53.000 I'm going to watch this tonight.
00:07:55.000 This is it's incredible.
00:07:56.000 Like, in honor of you, two hours, two hours and seven minutes.
00:08:00.000 Two hours and seven minutes.
00:08:01.000 That's but I, people, I'm, if this is the one that people were talking about years ago, people raved about this cut.
00:08:09.000 They said it was like it released 2017.
00:08:11.000 It says people said people like highly rated it.
00:08:15.000 They were like, yeah, this actually does a huge amount of justice.
00:08:17.000 Obviously, like the super fans with all the subplots, like those are all cut out, but like you get the gist of the entire.
00:08:23.000 So if you haven't watched the entire series, You know, it might be worth it.
00:08:27.000 It might be worth to watch it because you might be interested.
00:08:29.000 The fact that it was in Albuquerque does get me thinking.
00:08:32.000 I feel like, as diverse as America is in terms of cultures and landscapes, it is a little underutilized.
00:08:39.000 Yeah.
00:08:40.000 Like, I think it'd be cool if we had shows set in Phoenix, shows set in.
00:08:46.000 You get a lot of shows sort of set in the South, but they don't really lean into the Southern thing other than a handful.
00:08:51.000 True Detective did it a bit with those seasons in the Bayou.
00:08:55.000 Fargo got a bit of it.
00:08:56.000 They have those seasons up in the Northern Midwest.
00:08:58.000 But.
00:08:59.000 America's got a pretty strong range.
00:09:00.000 It does seem.
00:09:01.000 Despite that, it seems like 40% of TV shows take place in New York City.
00:09:07.000 There's a show that took place in the Florida Keys that was good.
00:09:11.000 What was that called?
00:09:13.000 It has What's His Face from Friday Night Lights.
00:09:15.000 I don't know any of these things.
00:09:18.000 I will say, apparently, the fifth best show of this millennium is one I had never heard of.
00:09:23.000 Bloodline.
00:09:24.000 To me, it matters a whole lot.
00:09:27.000 I kind of piggyback on what you were saying, Blake.
00:09:29.000 I always find it boring whenever a show is set in like.
00:09:32.000 A generic place, like it's always like Chicago, yeah, like whatever.
00:09:36.000 No, Chicago's very generic, Bear's Hat, or like whatever, like Boston.
00:09:40.000 It's like super generic.
00:09:41.000 It's like an overly nice house in the suburbs of like pretty generic city, like always pisses me off.
00:09:49.000 I love it when it's like, wow, that house kind of looks like a real house, and it's like in a city that's like not that's a real American city.
00:09:57.000 Wait, can I?
00:09:59.000 So, can we guys just read the top 10 because I'm looking at the top 10 and there's numbers, there's there's Shows on here that I've never even heard of.
00:10:06.000 Well, yeah.
00:10:07.000 So the top 10 overall was Breaking Bad, number one.
00:10:10.000 Number two is The Wire.
00:10:11.000 That's the HBO show, Baltimore, Gangs, Crime.
00:10:14.000 That always used to be everyone's number one until Breaking Bad came along.
00:10:17.000 And by everyone, I mean all the nerds who are TV critics.
00:10:19.000 I've never watched The Wire.
00:10:20.000 Number three, Mad Men.
00:10:21.000 That's phenomenal.
00:10:22.000 That's the ad show, advertising show, 60s timepiece.
00:10:26.000 Succession.
00:10:27.000 That's basically the Fox News show.
00:10:31.000 That's great.
00:10:31.000 Yeah, I have not seen Succession.
00:10:33.000 I've heard many of my friends watched it and said it was amazing.
00:10:36.000 Number five is Fleabag.
00:10:37.000 I have never heard of that show in my life.
00:10:39.000 I've never.
00:10:40.000 I have no idea what that is.
00:10:40.000 No idea what that is.
00:10:41.000 Never. 1.00
00:10:42.000 British something. 0.98
00:10:43.000 I saw someone else's list that had Fleabag, like number two. 0.92
00:10:46.000 It must have been a response to this.
00:10:47.000 Yeah.
00:10:48.000 It must be a really good show.
00:10:50.000 It's apparently a comedy drama British series.
00:10:53.000 Oh, ow.
00:10:55.000 Ow. 1.00
00:10:56.000 Ow. 1.00
00:10:56.000 Ow. 1.00
00:10:57.000 I will never support British television.
00:10:59.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:11:01.000 And then number six.
00:11:02.000 Wait, You don't like Monty Python?
00:11:07.000 I mean, Monty Python's like.
00:11:09.000 So old, and it's like it's kind of made itself into pop culture that is just okay, but like current British television, yeah, like modern British television.
00:11:18.000 Like, I just can't support it.
00:11:19.000 I'll do, oh well, I'll throw a thought crime on you.
00:11:22.000 I liked the UK office better than the American office.
00:11:25.000 So, you know, what's really interesting, and again, you have to give the UK office credit because of this, it was the original.
00:11:31.000 But did you know that, and you probably know this, Jack, but does everyone else know that every first episode of every office spinoff in every country?
00:11:42.000 Is the exact same script as the original UK's first episode of The Office.
00:11:46.000 Wow.
00:11:47.000 So if you, it's a really fun.
00:11:48.000 So they use it's line by line the same.
00:11:50.000 Yeah.
00:11:50.000 Exactly line by line, the same in every language, every country.
00:11:54.000 So it's really a fun activity.
00:11:56.000 Is to sometimes just watch the UK first episode and then watch the American first episode side by side.
00:12:02.000 It's really funny.
00:12:05.000 Yeah, I was so into the UK version. 0.72
00:12:07.000 So when the, the, uh, this just sucks, by the way.
00:12:10.000 I'm looking at other stuff.
00:12:11.000 Yeah.
00:12:12.000 But, uh, I think other fun ones on the list, uh, freaking Game of Thrones at number six.
00:12:18.000 It'd be really funny to think that I'm going to Game of Thrones, but only the first.
00:12:21.000 Four seasons that should be up.
00:12:23.000 That should be number two.
00:12:24.000 Game of Thrones should be number two.
00:12:26.000 Number two, even with season seven and eight.
00:12:28.000 That was objectively awful.
00:12:30.000 Even with season eight, Mikey.
00:12:33.000 Season eight was fine.
00:12:35.000 Season eight was fine.
00:12:35.000 Charlie actually really liked the ending of season eight.
00:12:38.000 Charlie watched Game of Thrones.
00:12:40.000 I think it was good.
00:12:41.000 Yeah, Charlie watched all of Game of Thrones.
00:12:43.000 Charlie was such a big Game of Thrones fan that in his house, he would watch it with his family.
00:12:48.000 In his house, each of their doors had like a little cutout image of who they were from the show.
00:12:54.000 Charlie was Jon Snow.
00:12:57.000 But I remember talking to Charlie about the finale, and I was like, this is, it was horrible.
00:13:00.000 He's like, no, she did what was necessary to take power.
00:13:04.000 And I was like, wait, wait, he missed that.
00:13:07.000 That's a take.
00:13:09.000 That's an interesting take.
00:13:12.000 Yes, he did.
00:13:13.000 I'll never forget.
00:13:14.000 He was like, she did what was necessary.
00:13:16.000 What's funny about this is I feel like that shows how bad Game of Thrones fell out of the cultural zeitgeist because the finale was bad.
00:13:23.000 Because I worked here for three years, and I don't think Charlie ever brought up Game of Thrones.
00:13:27.000 Well, I.
00:13:28.000 I remember it's weird with our full staff.
00:13:30.000 We were actually doing director's training.
00:13:31.000 It was our first ever real director training for Turning Point USA.
00:13:35.000 And we had rented a house in San Diego.
00:13:38.000 And that happened to be the same weekend that the final, whatever the day was.
00:13:42.000 I think it was a weekend because it must have been, maybe it was during the week, middle of the week, that the final, the finale for Game of Thrones was on.
00:13:50.000 So we, everybody got together in the family room, watched it.
00:13:55.000 And it was unanimously like anger, like animosity, like that everybody just like, All right, I'll go to bed.
00:14:03.000 Everyone just went to sleep immediately afterwards.
00:14:06.000 Everybody was upset, angry.
00:14:08.000 I've never seen anything like it that was so unanimously hated.
00:14:12.000 So that's crazy.
00:14:12.000 I didn't know that Charlie liked it.
00:14:14.000 That's crazy.
00:14:14.000 So I can explain that, by the way, as I'll just mention again, folks who don't know, I got my whole start on the internet, doing a Game of Thrones blog, and I called the Angry GOT fan and ran that thing.
00:14:28.000 We had hundreds of thousands of viewers, clicks.
00:14:33.000 Back in the blogosphere days, kind of like Gamergate, Nerdgate, kind of.
00:14:37.000 Time frame, and so I was just like railing against the HBO show, but from the perspective of a guy who loved the books.
00:14:44.000 And the reason that people hated the TV show ending so much is because they kind of used like a book style ending on a show that had stopped following the books for years, so it was a complete mismatch.
00:14:57.000 But if you had read the books, you would know that Daenerys was obviously always evil, she was always like it was the backstory of the evil dragon queen, like how you become an evil dragon queen.
00:15:09.000 She was always just like this crazy. 1.00
00:15:11.000 Toxic feminist, femme boss. 1.00
00:15:14.000 I can do whatever I want because I'm a girl and I can just kill people with impunity, which she does with like the when she goes to the Giskari and the slave traders and like just starts murdering people for no reason, who haven't even crossed her, by the way. 1.00
00:15:30.000 By the way, she kills her brother. 0.97
00:15:31.000 Like people seem to forget that about Daenerys.
00:15:33.000 He had it coming.
00:15:34.000 He had it coming. 1.00
00:15:36.000 Well, she kind of killed him.
00:15:38.000 Again, like she set it up that he would be murdered.
00:15:42.000 So that she would then become the Targaryen heir, but like everybody just misses all this.
00:15:47.000 She manipulates the situation.
00:15:50.000 And, like, she's clearly evil from the very start.
00:15:52.000 And this is what I always argue from the beginning.
00:15:56.000 And, like, Daenerys fans would be like, no, that's not true. 0.79
00:15:59.000 She's a good boss. 0.99
00:16:00.000 You had all these, like, stupid, you know, filthy show only casuals were naming their daughters, like, Kelly C. 1.00
00:16:09.000 And stuff. 1.00
00:16:11.000 Kelly C. Kelly C. Kelly C is a totally acceptable name for a girl. 0.92
00:16:15.000 Yeah.
00:16:15.000 But then, like, she turns out, like, they do the full review.
00:16:18.000 Reveal of her as evil, and then she gets murked by Jon Snow, and everyone's like, Oh, yeah, no.
00:16:23.000 I mean, I'm sorry.
00:16:24.000 It's very funny that Charlie took that point of view.
00:16:27.000 I don't know.
00:16:28.000 What's funny is I thought it was pretty bad, but not for the reason everyone else did.
00:16:32.000 Like, what was clearly terrible was kind of everything leading up to the final episode.
00:16:38.000 But I do feel like her going on a massive bender and destroying King's Landing was one of the few upsides to it.
00:16:44.000 Spoilers for a show that ended in 76?
00:16:46.000 No, Battle of Winterfell was epic.
00:16:49.000 The battle of Winterfell was epic.
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00:18:10.000 I'm looking at the list.
00:18:11.000 I'm looking at the list for the others.
00:18:13.000 Atlanta at number 10 is hilarious.
00:18:15.000 That's the show that got destroyed by Justice Smollett faking the hate crime against himself.
00:18:20.000 Oh, that's what that is.
00:18:21.000 I was like, I have no idea what that is.
00:18:22.000 That's number 10.
00:18:23.000 Apparently, they think it was really good.
00:18:25.000 Unbelievable.
00:18:26.000 Like, It is.
00:18:28.000 I don't know what Fleabag is.
00:18:29.000 I can see everyone making an argument for a lot of these.
00:18:32.000 And of course, 30 Rock at number eight is really interesting.
00:18:36.000 I've always really enjoyed that show, but people suck up on 30 Rock because of like, it's all the libs, like, just like, this is like that 30 Rock is like their, you know, I don't know.
00:18:46.000 I will say every time I've watched 30 Rock, it's been funny.
00:18:48.000 I've not been a guy for binging.
00:18:50.000 That show is so liberal.
00:18:52.000 The show?
00:18:53.000 30 Rock is like the lib, like, fangirl show that's like that.
00:18:56.000 Big time.
00:18:57.000 Big time.
00:18:58.000 This is like a very millennial.
00:19:00.000 You guys are sure you are thinking of Parks and Rec?
00:19:02.000 No, 30 Rock was the pre Parks and Rec.
00:19:05.000 I think they were on at the same time.
00:19:08.000 No, but 30 Rock is like, again, it's the whole.
00:19:10.000 No, 30 Rock started before.
00:19:11.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:19:13.000 Tina Fe is funny. 0.99
00:19:14.000 I think Tina Fe is funny. 1.00
00:19:15.000 No, there's a whole lib suck up culture around Tina Fe, and it's like. 1.00
00:19:19.000 Big time. 1.00
00:19:20.000 If Tina Fe likes you, then you're okay by lib standards and like NBC. 1.00
00:19:27.000 They have Arrested Development at 12. 0.84
00:19:29.000 That is what I would have put as the number one comedy.
00:19:31.000 I would have put Arrested.
00:19:31.000 The rest of the development was like bar nut before they screwed it up by bringing it back, it was looked at as top three.
00:19:39.000 That's why you always got to end early rather than lay it.
00:19:43.000 I think it would be a top five.
00:19:45.000 I am overall kind of a TV hater.
00:19:47.000 There are very few shows I've watched more than one season's worth of.
00:19:50.000 And so I think it stands out that the three seasons of Arrested Development is one of the only ones I've actually watched every episode in a show.
00:19:57.000 And then they released new episodes and those were terrible.
00:19:59.000 So it became a show I haven't seen every episode.
00:20:01.000 Be inside jokes with your friends.
00:20:02.000 Arrested Development to me was the last show on TV, maybe, because I think that was after The Office.
00:20:08.000 Yeah, it was after The Office.
00:20:09.000 Arrested Development?
00:20:10.000 No, it was before.
00:20:11.000 No.
00:20:12.000 Arrested Development was 2003 to like 2006.
00:20:16.000 But it got popular later.
00:20:17.000 Yeah, because it was on Netflix.
00:20:20.000 Yeah, it got popular.
00:20:20.000 Okay, whatever.
00:20:21.000 That's why they brought it back.
00:20:22.000 To me, Arrested Development, you could say The Office, too, was one of those.
00:20:26.000 But Arrested Development was the last show that I can remember that was a TV show that had inside jokes that people still shared between friends that watched this stuff.
00:20:38.000 Since then, I don't even know if I can really tell you a show, a comedy on TV that people quote regularly and people just know quotes inside jokes.
00:20:48.000 Funny jokes from that, like you would with movies.
00:20:50.000 And I say this all the time.
00:20:51.000 We talk about this with my wife.
00:20:53.000 Like, kids, like when I was in high school, and Jack will agree with this, when we were in high school, you used to nonstop quote movies, like nonstop.
00:21:03.000 That was how you talked with people, was like basically just conversing with lines from movies.
00:21:11.000 Kids today can't even quote one line from any movie they've seen in the last five years.
00:21:16.000 That said, I have asked about this, and they will do the same thing.
00:21:20.000 With the same movies that we watched.
00:21:23.000 So apparently, if you're 13, it is still the funniest thing in the world to quote Monty Python and the Holy Grail to each other.
00:21:30.000 But for our generation, it was like you could quote Zoolander, you could quote Old School, you could quote Anchorman, you could quote like there was like 10 Adam Sandler, Will Ferrell.
00:21:42.000 Yeah, every Adam Sandler movie.
00:21:44.000 Yeah.
00:21:44.000 They don't have like, I'm telling you, kids, teenage boys today can't even tell you a funny moment from a movie, much less they don't go around quoting lines.
00:21:53.000 And it actually, to me, like I think about all the time, like, How does this impact American culture?
00:21:57.000 Because American culture was a lot different when people are rolling around quoting movies.
00:22:01.000 So, I mean, there's different, like, the me.
00:22:06.000 People do still have quotes.
00:22:08.000 Like, they have six, seven, they have skibbity.
00:22:11.000 Like, memes are so much more like words.
00:22:14.000 But those are more like TikTok trends.
00:22:16.000 Go through on this.
00:22:16.000 Go through on this.
00:22:18.000 That, like, shared meme culture does kind of exist, but it's outside of movies now because that sort of writing has left movies and movies aren't a shared culture anymore.
00:22:27.000 But what is shared is memes.
00:22:29.000 So you'll see this on TikTok.
00:22:30.000 You'll see this on Reels.
00:22:32.000 You'll see this in just regular memes that people share and the way people talk.
00:22:38.000 But you don't actually see it in movies anymore because the writing has gotten, number one, so bad.
00:22:43.000 And then number two, and Ben Affleck and Matt Damon talked about this, that when they make movies now for streaming services, Netflix straight up told them that we know that the audience doesn't watch the movie as they're actually having it on because they're just sitting on their phones the whole time.
00:22:59.000 So we just make sure that every 20 minutes or so.
00:23:02.000 Someone explains the plot yet again to people, and then we just throw an action scene in so people keep watching.
00:23:09.000 And so, the idea that you're going to have a well written show isn't going to be something that's marketable anymore.
00:23:18.000 So, funny enough, Tanya and I just went back and watched because I've said before that so Tanya didn't grow up in the US, so she doesn't have that same background like we did, like you mentioned, the 90s, 2000s, where we had that shared culture of Will Ferrell movies.
00:23:33.000 Before she met me, Tanya had never seen a Will Ferrell movie.
00:23:36.000 She was like, I showed her Anchorman.
00:23:37.000 She's like, wow, this guy's really funny.
00:23:38.000 I was like, yeah, I know.
00:23:39.000 He's kind of a big deal.
00:23:40.000 And so we're going through some of the Adam Sandler movies right now, and she'd never seen them before.
00:23:45.000 So we watched 51st Dates and The Wedding Singer.
00:23:49.000 And specifically with The Wedding Singer, I forgot how well, absolutely well written that movie was.
00:23:55.000 Just so many quotable lines over and over, so many quotable scenes.
00:23:59.000 You know, you ran over two cones.
00:24:03.000 This could have been people.
00:24:04.000 This could have been guests at her wedding. 0.96
00:24:05.000 They were cones!
00:24:07.000 Like over and over and over, just these quotable moments that.
00:24:11.000 Again, like you don't find them in movies today.
00:24:14.000 Plus, Ty, and Ty, I'd love to get your thought on this that I don't think people re watch movies as much anymore either in the era of streaming only.
00:24:22.000 I think people like watch a movie and then they dispose of it.
00:24:26.000 I don't think there's movies where people watch multiple times anymore.
00:24:29.000 And that was a huge part of the culture.
00:24:31.000 It was like you watch a movie, then you watch it again with your friends, then you're all at a party, put a movie on. 1.00
00:24:36.000 I'm kind of okay with that shit. 1.00
00:24:38.000 I'm kind of okay with that shit. 1.00
00:24:40.000 I have a theory on that. 0.99
00:24:41.000 I have a theory that clipping has actually ruined movies.
00:24:45.000 That has.
00:24:45.000 That is true.
00:24:46.000 Have you seen the way they shoot the movies now?
00:24:48.000 Clipping has ruined movies because now.
00:24:50.000 Yeah, they shoot the movies with everything like centered so that you can clip it just like that.
00:24:55.000 So they, so yeah, everything's like down the center.
00:24:57.000 So they, they, they, they, so everything is directed towards clipping, which again proves your point of what you're saying is like TikTok has kind of killed trends and themes and all that stuff.
00:25:06.000 But movies now, movies now, think about it.
00:25:09.000 Think about how many movies don't get watched because the best parts are already clipped and they're on like TikTok.
00:25:15.000 Reels, whatever.
00:25:16.000 So it's actually killing the millivanage. 0.99
00:25:18.000 If the movie industry was really smart, they would get, they would like really be hardcore about this and like trying to eliminate it, but they're not because they don't want to look like jerks, probably. 0.97
00:25:30.000 But it's probably killed things. 0.95
00:25:31.000 And then after the fact, instead of going, think about it.
00:25:34.000 If you wanted to go back and catch a line again, you had to go watch the movie again, memorize it to a T, go in the parking lot, reiterate it with your friends 50 times.
00:25:46.000 Yes.
00:25:47.000 I remember so many times, and I don't know if you did this, Jack, but like we would go watch a movie, like you said, be like, that was awesome.
00:25:53.000 And we like, we have to go watch the movie again.
00:25:55.000 We would go back and watch the movie again.
00:25:58.000 I remember doing this with like Zoolander or something.
00:25:59.000 I can't remember what it was.
00:26:01.000 Go watch the movie again.
00:26:02.000 And then we sat in the parking lot afterwards, like rehearsing all the lines with each other.
00:26:07.000 Like, remember this part, remember this part.
00:26:09.000 And then it's like you and your friends then bonded.
00:26:12.000 And like, we're like, that's like we said it.
00:26:13.000 And you go to school and you say the line.
00:26:16.000 Can I, can I give you a class to a teacher and everyone laughs.
00:26:19.000 Right.
00:26:20.000 Like, but again, that's not happening.
00:26:22.000 So, that interpersonal communication part piece, this is the thing is like, okay, it's getting replaced, but now you're getting fed it from a third party source on the internet instead of repeating it with your friends or like punking a teacher with it or doing whatever.
00:26:36.000 Right.
00:26:36.000 Right.
00:26:37.000 And it just is, to me, that's the reinforcement element is now happening from a device to your brain over and over.
00:26:44.000 And that's the only place that you're actually sharing that.
00:26:46.000 Funny enough, I'm very sad.
00:26:49.000 When that movie Step Brothers came out, the Will Ferrell movie, I watched it by myself.
00:26:54.000 And I didn't like it at all the first time I watched it.
00:26:58.000 And I was like, I don't get this movie.
00:26:59.000 I don't think it's funny.
00:27:01.000 I don't like it even a little bit.
00:27:03.000 And then I was, and I'll never forget this, I watched it in a setting where I had like four or five of my buddies around.
00:27:10.000 And I was like, this is the best movie ever because we were doing all that.
00:27:14.000 No, it's very true.
00:27:15.000 So because you're like barking, it's like mystery science theater kind of in those situations.
00:27:20.000 Yeah, it's true.
00:27:20.000 I mean, I would add, guys, that the only movies that perform like 2026 has been a comeback year for cinema.
00:27:27.000 And there's been a ton of movies that have performed, but they have to be like unrealistic fantasy, sci fi, massive budget for like, you know, marketing it.
00:27:37.000 It's like Project Hail Mary, Odyssey, Spider Man, Avengers, Doomsday.
00:27:43.000 A lot of these have broken the billion dollar box office records, and they will.
00:27:47.000 Dune 3 is coming out.
00:27:49.000 That's the only movie that can be successful in theaters.
00:27:52.000 I watched Goodwill Hunting last night, and I was literally sitting there.
00:27:56.000 The entire movie is just about having a conversation.
00:27:59.000 And I was like, there's no way this would come out in theaters today, and anybody would watch this movie.
00:28:05.000 There's just no way.
00:28:06.000 It has to have been a movie that came out.
00:28:08.000 And it actually matches pretty close with.
00:28:10.000 This list starting in 2000.
00:28:12.000 Because if you look at the top films in 99 or 2000, the top 10 movies of the year include stuff like The Perfect Storm, which is about fishermen getting into a storm and sinking.
00:28:22.000 It has What Lies Beneath, which is this sort of horror drama thriller, Harrison Ford, but supernatural.
00:28:30.000 Has a rom com on Michelle Pfeiffer.
00:28:32.000 Yeah, I think that was the year like What Women Want came out, something in that period. 0.52
00:28:36.000 And then you get into 2001, 2002, and suddenly it's Spider Man, X Men, Harry Potter.
00:28:43.000 Everything is a big tent pole franchise film, lots of special effects, and that's kind of been what's run the day.
00:28:50.000 And as you said, 2026 feels different in that we have random horror movies doing really well again, and hopefully that leads to some creativity.
00:28:58.000 That would be great.
00:28:58.000 But on the TV thing, before we move on, wait, I feel like we should ask everyone what their number one show actually is, and is it even on the list?
00:29:08.000 Can I add something to that just to what Mikey's saying?
00:29:11.000 And it backs up in the last week, I watched the new Resident Evil movie twice, I thought it was phenomenal.
00:29:18.000 It's doing really, really well at the box office.
00:29:20.000 It's totally different.
00:29:22.000 Practical effects of that.
00:29:23.000 I think it's super cool.
00:29:24.000 In an hour because you use your accelerated speed?
00:29:29.000 No.
00:29:29.000 No, it took two hours.
00:29:30.000 Okay.
00:29:31.000 Whoa.
00:29:31.000 Wait, you watch movies on accelerated speed, Jack?
00:29:35.000 Do you even watch this show, bro?
00:29:38.000 Wait, wait.
00:29:39.000 No, hold on.
00:29:40.000 I know that you watch things on accelerated speed, but not movies.
00:29:44.000 Yeah.
00:29:45.000 Of course.
00:29:45.000 Dude, that's cool.
00:29:46.000 Why would I want to give my time to Hollywood like that?
00:29:49.000 Why would I let Hollywood control my life?
00:29:52.000 I'm going to waste my time watching that much Hollywood.
00:29:57.000 I'm so ADHD, I'm typically working while I watch every movie.
00:30:01.000 I don't know if I watch a horror movie at accelerated speed.
00:30:04.000 The point of a horror movie is there's tension to it.
00:30:07.000 And then you're watching it at accelerated speed.
00:30:09.000 It's like da I have to watch it as quickly as possible, stop it and miss scenes.
00:30:16.000 I go back and re watch it.
00:30:17.000 I probably watch a movie four times.
00:30:20.000 So, you have to actually be high IQ to be able to do this.
00:30:23.000 So, that's why you guys are.
00:30:25.000 I'm perfectly fine saying that I'm low IQ.
00:30:28.000 I just, I've never seen, I can't even imagine.
00:30:31.000 I'd have to watch a movie like 15 times if I was watching on TFT.
00:30:36.000 I'm sad, by the way.
00:30:37.000 I want to say, I want to shout out one of our regulars who's not here today.
00:30:41.000 Dylan, I'm sad you're not here because we're talking about TV and you could be touting all of your favorite animes, which I believe none of which are on the list.
00:30:47.000 But that's okay.
00:30:49.000 And I'll even add to that since I've been.
00:30:53.000 I've got my whole family on it now.
00:30:54.000 So even when I'm with Tanya, who, again, as I mentioned before, she is English at, she's an ESL.
00:31:00.000 Like English is not her first language.
00:31:02.000 Even when I'm with her, we watch movies at 1.75.
00:31:05.000 And when I'm with my kids, it's 2X.
00:31:07.000 Everything's at 2X.
00:31:09.000 And they ask for it.
00:31:12.000 So bizarre.
00:31:13.000 So what would your number one show be, Tyler?
00:31:15.000 And is it on this list?
00:31:16.000 Yeah, I'm going to be real with you.
00:31:20.000 I'm, and this is, you can call me lame, whatever.
00:31:22.000 People make fun of it all the time, whatever.
00:31:24.000 I'm an office fan.
00:31:25.000 I just, The American office, number one.
00:31:27.000 The American office.
00:31:27.000 That's what she said.
00:31:29.000 I could watch.
00:31:29.000 So good.
00:31:31.000 For me, if there's a comfort food in TV, it's the office.
00:31:36.000 Like, I could turn on the office in the background and it just kind of equalizes, like makes you happy type of a thing.
00:31:43.000 Like, that's like, I would say that's it.
00:31:46.000 If I'm going to fight with my spouse, like, put on the office in the background and everything's better.
00:31:53.000 One of my favorite facts, and then I will throw to Jack for his favorite.
00:31:57.000 One of my favorite facts about The Office when it was on Netflix still, it was the most popular show on Netflix.
00:32:02.000 Netflix, of course, was the biggest consumer of internet bandwidth in the U.S. because of all the streaming video.
00:32:07.000 And so there was a given year where Netflix was about, I want to say, 15% of all internet traffic.
00:32:15.000 And then on top of that, something like about 20% of all Netflix show watches were people putting on an episode of The Office.
00:32:24.000 That's how big it was.
00:32:25.000 Yep.
00:32:25.000 So it was basically, if you ran the numbers, about 2% of all internet traffic in the United States was people specifically watching episodes of The Office.
00:32:35.000 That's crazy.
00:32:37.000 And good for these people too, because some of those guys are making so much money still.
00:32:41.000 Annually, yeah, from all the streaming, like all those actors, like, and they probably didn't at the time.
00:32:48.000 I mean, they'll even tell you, you listen to them on the podcast and stuff like that.
00:32:51.000 They tell you, like, how they thought they were gonna get fired, like, after and they were gonna get they were done after just a few episodes.
00:32:57.000 Like, it's pretty, it's a pretty cool thing that they have made an entire career off of that.
00:33:02.000 Okay, uh, MK Bren, by the way, asked if Charlie's favorite show would be Seinfeld, it wouldn't be on this list because it's not from this century, yes, but that was his overall favorite.
00:33:11.000 I don't know what his favorite show was from this century.
00:33:13.000 He liked Breaking Bad.
00:33:14.000 I'm sorry, he talked about Breaking Bad all the time.
00:33:16.000 Yeah.
00:33:17.000 All right.
00:33:17.000 All right.
00:33:17.000 Yeah.
00:33:17.000 Seinfeld.
00:33:18.000 Jack, your favorite show in the century.
00:33:21.000 Yeah.
00:33:21.000 Well, I was just going to say funny enough about Seinfeld, similar to what you were saying about Sopranos.
00:33:26.000 Did you know Seinfeld actually started in the 1980s?
00:33:29.000 If you actually look, I think season one was 1989.
00:33:32.000 Was there like, it was only five episodes or something, right?
00:33:35.000 Wow.
00:33:35.000 Yeah.
00:33:36.000 Yeah.
00:33:36.000 I didn't know.
00:33:37.000 It was like a mini pilot kind of like miniseries.
00:33:40.000 And, you know, the lore is that Steve Bannon was actually involved with the financing of it.
00:33:46.000 And still has a piece of it to this day.
00:33:48.000 He was.
00:33:48.000 And, oh, 100%.
00:33:51.000 And, you know, it's, and it's, the first five episodes are really not that good.
00:33:57.000 But yeah, it basically set up what became the Seinfeld Empire.
00:34:01.000 So, so, Chart, I'll just, while we're on the topic before you, you, yeah, Charlie always talked about Ozark too in a weird way.
00:34:08.000 Huh.
00:34:08.000 Which is really, this is number 68.
00:34:10.000 Yeah, I forgot about that.
00:34:11.000 But he did watch Ozark.
00:34:12.000 He clearly, he watched Ozark and he talked about Ozark all the time.
00:34:17.000 I wasn't like that big of a fan of Ozark.
00:34:18.000 I thought the first couple seasons were pretty good, but anyways.
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00:35:28.000 Sorry, go ahead, Jack.
00:35:30.000 What's your show?
00:35:31.000 We need to, we need to like kind of sit down and figure out like the Charlie Kirk like favorites and stuff because it's just stuff that people didn't like.
00:35:39.000 You obviously haven't talked about it like on campus or whatever, but it's just stuff that people need, you know, they should know.
00:35:43.000 Um, so one of our favorites, House of Cards, obviously, like that, those first couple seasons too, like we repetitively nonstop talked about House of Cards with Charlie. 0.95
00:35:53.000 When I hated that show, it was dumb.
00:35:58.000 I thought it was pretty. 0.98
00:36:02.000 Spot on and how people interacted in the DC survey.
00:36:05.000 No, that's the thing about it.
00:36:06.000 It's like it's fake.
00:36:07.000 House of Cards screws it up because it's based on a British show.
00:36:10.000 And in Britain, it actually makes sense for this mid powered backbencher, the House whip, to maneuver and destroy the people ahead of him in the party, become prime minister.
00:36:20.000 It makes no sense to happen in America for the House whip to connive to bring down the vice president and then he makes himself vice president and then he takes out the president.
00:36:31.000 That makes no sense.
00:36:32.000 Everything in that show is. 1.00
00:36:32.000 So stupid. 1.00
00:36:33.000 That doesn't make sense. 1.00
00:36:34.000 And then the first lady takes him out.
00:36:36.000 How that happens doesn't make sense.
00:36:38.000 But how the people interact with one another is so spot on, though.
00:36:43.000 Like all these people that think that they're so special that work at the Capitol and everything else.
00:36:49.000 How they act and react is pretty funny.
00:36:53.000 I don't know.
00:36:56.000 Anyway, sorry, I keep cutting out your head.
00:36:57.000 If you watch that, if you watch.
00:36:59.000 I'm intentionally trying to cut off Jack every time he's about to say this to see if you'll.
00:37:04.000 There's an episode in Fun Facts.
00:37:06.000 Fun fact about House of Cards, as well as Veep, that if you watch an episode, I think it's season three of House of Cards, where he's the president and he's sending the troops off to like some valley on a peacekeeping mission, and he's sending these UN troops.
00:37:22.000 If you go and look at the front row of those troops that are standing directly behind Kevin Spacey, like the very first guy in the Navy uniform is actually me.
00:37:32.000 No way.
00:37:33.000 You're an outsider.
00:37:34.000 No way.
00:37:35.000 Uncredited.
00:37:36.000 Wait, what?
00:37:37.000 They filmed it.
00:37:39.000 They filmed it when I was stationed at Navy Intelligence and they reached out to a bunch of guys in the military saying, hey, we want to find people for, you know, who can like take off, take leave and, you know, just film in as background.
00:37:54.000 And I was like, I was like, yeah, that sounds cool.
00:37:56.000 So a bunch of us took leave and we went and filmed with that one day.
00:37:59.000 So yeah, got to work with the whole team on the show.
00:38:02.000 And Robin Wright was super cool.
00:38:05.000 It was cool.
00:38:06.000 And I did an episode of Veep as well when he goes to that like fake Google company.
00:38:11.000 My show.
00:38:12.000 Which I will say is.
00:38:14.000 Oh, there's a.
00:38:14.000 I'll just tease the chat.
00:38:16.000 Shut up. 0.99
00:38:17.000 All right. 0.99
00:38:17.000 Well, the show that I'll add that I'm actually like, I like Breaking Bad. 0.99
00:38:23.000 I love The Wire.
00:38:25.000 Game of Thrones, we talked about that.
00:38:27.000 Mad Men, I think it's great as well.
00:38:29.000 The show that I'm glad to see The Americans is pretty high up on the list.
00:38:33.000 I think that's awesome.
00:38:34.000 Chernobyl is pretty high up, which I think is awesome.
00:38:39.000 And I will say that I'm really.
00:38:42.000 I was really excited, and I'm really pleased to see that one of the highest shows is one that I absolutely love that hardly anybody talks about, and it doesn't get as much credit.
00:38:52.000 But the fact that it's number 37 on this list is Battlestar Galactica, which I argue is like it's, I think it's that specific show, the 2004 Battlestar Galactica, is the best made sci fi show of all time.
00:39:12.000 And it's a show that, even if you don't like sci fi, you can sit down and watch it and be like, This is a great show.
00:39:17.000 I mean, it's got incredible casts.
00:39:18.000 It's got Mary McDonald.
00:39:19.000 It's got Ever James Olmos, plays Admiral Adama, Katie Sackhoff.
00:39:25.000 It's just, again, an incredible cast, great writing.
00:39:28.000 It's a really good show.
00:39:29.000 And prescient because it talks about AI when we're living in a time where that's like, you know, one of the biggest topics that we're talking about.
00:39:37.000 All righty.
00:39:37.000 All right.
00:39:38.000 Mikey, what is your favorite show of this millennium?
00:39:43.000 Objectively, the greatest show of this, you know, 21st century is The Summer I Turned Pretty.
00:39:51.000 Oh, my God.
00:39:51.000 What?
00:39:52.000 What?
00:39:53.000 What is that show?
00:39:55.000 Period.
00:39:56.000 Okay.
00:39:56.000 I only know about the show because Daisy would talk about it.
00:39:59.000 Did Daisy put you up to saying that?
00:40:02.000 No, bro, this is the greatest show of our lifetime.
00:40:08.000 Okay.
00:40:09.000 It's fantastic.
00:40:10.000 It has nothing to do with love.
00:40:12.000 That's just kind of like that gets in the way of the story.
00:40:14.000 It has to do with this house, and they grow up in this house, and there's all these traditions around the house.
00:40:20.000 And it's about, like, you know, keeping the family together.
00:40:24.000 It's about the nuclear family, it's about true love.
00:40:28.000 It's about, it's like the most conservative valued show.
00:40:32.000 Out there, it really is the greatest show of all time.
00:40:37.000 Okay.
00:40:38.000 All right.
00:40:38.000 All right.
00:40:38.000 That's a pretty strong sell.
00:40:39.000 Blake, what's your?
00:40:40.000 All right.
00:40:41.000 We should guess Blake's favorite show.
00:40:43.000 Is it on this list?
00:40:44.000 No.
00:40:45.000 It is not on this list.
00:40:47.000 And I don't watch that much TV.
00:40:48.000 What's your favorite show on this list?
00:40:50.000 My favorite show on this list would probably be Arrested Development.
00:40:53.000 On the list would be Arrested Development, I think.
00:40:55.000 And then, other than that, like I said, I watched very few shows.
00:40:58.000 I did watch all of Game of Thrones.
00:41:00.000 The last couple seasons are really bad, but I was a book super fan.
00:41:04.000 I was kind of in no matter what it was going to be.
00:41:07.000 And yeah, it does a lot of good stuff.
00:41:09.000 And I love Arrested Development, but then they kept making seasons for it, and that was a mistake.
00:41:13.000 I watched a few episodes of Breaking Bad, whatever.
00:41:16.000 A lot of these I watched a couple episodes.
00:41:18.000 I retracted Porsche Dirac.
00:41:19.000 So I don't even know who that is.
00:41:22.000 In Arrested Development?
00:41:24.000 I don't remember anyone's names other than like the core people.
00:41:26.000 I don't know any accents.
00:41:29.000 And that is because we're going to go deep into the recesses of my mind.
00:41:34.000 And I see Dylan has actually joined.
00:41:36.000 He's going to probably semi like this.
00:41:39.000 I think my favorite show of the 21st century is going to be Nickelodeon 2005 Avatar The Last Airbender.
00:41:46.000 Yeah.
00:41:47.000 All right.
00:41:48.000 Oh, yeah.
00:41:48.000 Heck yeah.
00:41:49.000 I'm taking mine back.
00:41:51.000 I agree with Blake.
00:41:52.000 It was so good.
00:41:54.000 This is the best show.
00:41:54.000 It was so good.
00:41:55.000 We got three or four different terrible attempts to continue it because Legend of Korra was bad.
00:42:03.000 Live action version, bad.
00:42:05.000 Live action movie, bad.
00:42:06.000 They're making some new cartoon version.
00:42:08.000 That's going to be bad, too.
00:42:09.000 But that one, that was lightning in a bottle.
00:42:11.000 Everyone thought it was going to be terrible and it came out and it was awesome.
00:42:14.000 Okay.
00:42:14.000 And 14 year old me was here for it.
00:42:17.000 There's some things to mention here.
00:42:22.000 Three shows that are on here back to back 56, Nathan for You.
00:42:27.000 That's a great show.
00:42:28.000 I cannot watch Nathan for You.
00:42:30.000 It's too awkward.
00:42:30.000 It was too painful.
00:42:31.000 I love watching Nathan for You.
00:42:33.000 Really awkward stuff in television causes me physical distress.
00:42:36.000 I can't believe I've seen 56 on this list, to be honest with you.
00:42:39.000 It's a little crazy that it's like that high.
00:42:42.000 But another one, 57, I think you should leave.
00:42:45.000 Like, I actually laugh every day at clips.
00:42:51.000 That's a good example of a show that gets clipped up, that basically is just a clipped up show.
00:42:56.000 That is a hilarious show.
00:42:57.000 And then Chappelle Show.
00:42:59.000 Chappelle Show was probably one of the most transformative shows, I think, for.
00:43:05.000 That was a very important one, yeah.
00:43:06.000 For people my age and Jack's age, where people actually quoted, talked about it all the time.
00:43:14.000 That legitimately deserves a high.
00:43:17.000 Higher ranking, in my opinion, of how influence.
00:43:20.000 Well, I thought this was more like dramas.
00:43:22.000 I thought, like, if we were.
00:43:23.000 No, no, that's all it was. 0.98
00:43:24.000 They've got ridiculous survivors on here. 0.99
00:43:26.000 I think You Should Leave is like a ridiculous show. 0.99
00:43:29.000 It's like, it's a show about nothing. 0.96
00:43:31.000 Have you watched it?
00:43:31.000 It's Tim Robinson.
00:43:34.000 It's Tim Robinson, who we don't like Tim Robinson because he's a lib.
00:43:36.000 But he's not funny.
00:43:38.000 I think Tim Robinson is hilarious.
00:43:40.000 I think the most interesting thing on here is like where they put the reality TV shows or like long running shows that don't really fit in.
00:43:49.000 I don't know.
00:43:50.000 That's really interesting.
00:43:50.000 Modern Family is really low on this.
00:43:52.000 It's kind of shocking because that was a pretty well liked show.
00:43:55.000 Well, some stuff that's not on here at all.
00:43:56.000 Silicon Valley's not on here.
00:43:57.000 And I thought that was great.
00:43:58.000 I like Silicon Valley.
00:43:59.000 I loved Silicon Valley.
00:43:59.000 Well, The one season of it I watched.
00:44:02.000 Silicon Valley is really well written.
00:44:05.000 Man, I feel like we talk about this all day.
00:44:07.000 Really quick, though Caboose, The Masses Demand.
00:44:09.000 What is your favorite television show?
00:44:12.000 So, my favorite currently, I would say, is A Night of the Seven Kingdoms, even though we only got one season right now.
00:44:18.000 My favorite show that's on the list is number 73.
00:44:21.000 It's Barry.
00:44:22.000 If anyone hasn't seen that, they should definitely check that out.
00:44:25.000 It's a dark comedy with Bill Hader.
00:44:28.000 Oh, yeah.
00:44:28.000 Oh, I heard that.
00:44:29.000 My friends liked that show.
00:44:30.000 I remember.
00:44:31.000 Also, Generation Kill is an incredible show.
00:44:35.000 That's the HBO Iraq movie or show?
00:44:38.000 Yeah.
00:44:38.000 So it's based on the book by Evan Wright when we first went into Iraq.
00:44:42.000 He traveled with a group of recon Marines when we first entered Iraq.
00:44:47.000 Read the book.
00:44:47.000 The book's incredible.
00:44:48.000 The show, just as incredible.
00:44:51.000 And also, The Terminalist is a good one.
00:44:53.000 Excellent.
00:44:53.000 Excellent.
00:44:54.000 One of the shows on here I've heard about Beef.
00:44:57.000 Have any of you watched Beef?
00:44:59.000 They've got a second season.
00:45:00.000 Dude.
00:45:02.000 I've heard, but Alex Sparkin.
00:45:03.000 I heard Squares.
00:45:04.000 This is like the best show.
00:45:05.000 I've heard.
00:45:06.000 I haven't watched it yet, but I've had multiple people be like, You've got to watch Beef.
00:45:11.000 You have to watch Beef.
00:45:12.000 It's all about it, I guess, an interaction of someone getting into road rage or something.
00:45:17.000 It's like a continuation of an entire season of people getting into a fight.
00:45:23.000 I don't know.
00:45:24.000 It's crazy.
00:45:25.000 I'm deeply interested.
00:45:27.000 If we are, two things.
00:45:29.000 If we're doing comedy, you've got to add tires with Shane Gillis.
00:45:32.000 I mean, that's just an absolutely hilarious show.
00:45:35.000 It's not even on here.
00:45:36.000 That's shocking.
00:45:37.000 It's not even on here.
00:45:38.000 It's so good.
00:45:40.000 And also, Caboose, if you like Knight of Seven Kingdoms that much, highly recommend the other short stories slash novellas by George R. Martin in that series, The Sworn Sword and The Mystery Knight.
00:45:52.000 We're getting TV versions of them soon.
00:45:55.000 Well, the first, yeah, and the first one was almost one-to-one.
00:46:00.000 So the guys who are adapting the Dunkin' Egg series are not the ones who made the Game of Thrones proper show.
00:46:09.000 Apparently, we're also getting a Game Of Thrones.
00:46:10.000 Prequel movie, I think, with Robert Pattinson playing Aegon the Conqueror, which like is like way back in the like 300 years ago of Westeros D history and and Knight Of The Seven Kingdoms, is just great because it kind of like it pulls you out of the, you know, Civil War political aspect.
00:46:30.000 There is there, you know there is a good amount of politics, but it's just sort of like a knight and his squire sort of going about the land and, you know, getting into hijinks, and it's really really cool, All right. 0.91
00:46:44.000 Yeah, we got a lot of them.
00:46:45.000 I have some issues with this list because it looks like they intentionally left out a bunch of shows.
00:46:51.000 Well, you're looking at a bunch of shows from the 90s.
00:46:53.000 No, no, no.
00:46:53.000 There's no 90s shows on this.
00:46:54.000 No, no, no.
00:46:55.000 MTV Jackass was a really culturally influential show.
00:47:01.000 That was after 2000.
00:47:02.000 Was it?
00:47:03.000 Yeah.
00:47:04.000 Are you sure?
00:47:05.000 Oh, it did.
00:47:06.000 Released October 2000.
00:47:08.000 Wow.
00:47:08.000 Jersey Shore.
00:47:09.000 Okay.
00:47:10.000 We are not putting Jersey Shore on this list.
00:47:12.000 Jersey Shore should go.
00:47:13.000 I don't care if it's influential.
00:47:15.000 Jersey Shore is influential.
00:47:17.000 Okay, yeah. 0.95
00:47:18.000 So is like The Black Death. 0.98
00:47:20.000 The Black Death is influential.
00:47:21.000 Wait, there's a few others.
00:47:25.000 It seems like all the MTV shows were left off your list.
00:47:27.000 Getting Kidney Stones is influential on your life.
00:47:29.000 You wouldn't rank that as a top thing.
00:47:31.000 No, Jack, was Punked really an influential show?
00:47:36.000 More than some of these crappy shows that were on here.
00:47:39.000 No, Punked, there was an 18 month to 24 month period where Punked was everything.
00:47:47.000 Robin Big was a big deal with all that.
00:47:51.000 I'm just saying there's some shows here.
00:47:53.000 It looks like intentionally a lot of MTV shows were left off this list.
00:48:00.000 Robin Big or Rob Deerex Fantasy Factory was like a big deal for that was like the biggest show for like two years, too.
00:48:07.000 Like, like the, and, and I'm, and again, I'm not saying I'm not a Jersey Shore guy, I'm not from Jersey, but that was legitimately one of the top rated shows on television.
00:48:17.000 Man.
00:48:17.000 And the Kardashians isn't on here.
00:48:19.000 Oh, no.
00:48:20.000 No, you're shilling for the Kardashians.
00:48:22.000 I'm not saying you want Kardashians on the top watch.
00:48:25.000 I'm just saying, I'm just saying that these are like, these were some of the most watched shows.
00:48:29.000 Oh, no.
00:48:29.000 The OC, Laguna Beach.
00:48:31.000 Tyler, what about the Hill?
00:48:34.000 How much TV have you watched?
00:48:36.000 The Hill?
00:48:36.000 No, there's a difference though between what was culturally relevant and had the highest ratings and what was objectively a good quality show.
00:48:45.000 Okay.
00:48:45.000 I think we should give the distinction there.
00:48:48.000 Yeah, but if it wasn't good, then why did it get such high ratings?
00:48:51.000 Because we're a fallen society?
00:48:53.000 Because we have fallen away from God.
00:48:56.000 But we're sinners and God will extract His judgment from many of us.
00:48:59.000 Again, I'm going through this.
00:49:00.000 That's actually the same answer for the Cornell story.
00:49:02.000 Yeah.
00:49:02.000 Teen mom.
00:49:03.000 Yeah.
00:49:04.000 Actually, should we get into that?
00:49:05.000 We've really extracted a lot.
00:49:06.000 This is a very fun discussion.
00:49:07.000 We probably should.
00:49:08.000 But I think we should dive into the Cornell thing because it is mega viral and we have to follow.
00:49:12.000 We have to chase the clicks.
00:49:13.000 We have to chase the hits.
00:49:16.000 So we talked about this on the show today as well.
00:49:18.000 Have you been following this, Tyler?
00:49:20.000 The Cornell drama?
00:49:22.000 I caught it.
00:49:23.000 I caught wind of it and I was like, kind of reading it.
00:49:25.000 I was like, this is unbelievable.
00:49:27.000 It is very unbelievable.
00:49:28.000 It's very disgusting.
00:49:29.000 Mikey, have you been following this?
00:49:31.000 Yeah, I have.
00:49:33.000 Oh, unfortunate.
00:49:33.000 Unfortunate.
00:49:34.000 I only really started to pay.
00:49:36.000 Real attention to it yesterday, but it's absolutely everywhere.
00:49:40.000 I was pointing out if you go to the New York Times page, the lead is not AI, it's not Iran, it's not anything else.
00:49:46.000 The lead on the New York Times today was developments in the Cornell saga.
00:49:51.000 This, of course, is a lawsuit that has been filed.
00:49:55.000 A girl who was at Cornell took ketamine, she drank a bunch of alcohol, she went to a frat party, she apparently engaged in carnal activities with.
00:50:06.000 Up to seven different guys.
00:50:09.000 Afterwards, it seems she realized that this was a very humiliating thing to do.
00:50:14.000 And because in our modern society, we don't have a way of verbalizing why you'd be able to do something like that and feel terrible about it and regret it without converting it into, I must not have consented to it.
00:50:26.000 Because if you consent to anything, it's good.
00:50:28.000 So now we circle around back. 0.99
00:50:29.000 She's suing everybody.
00:50:31.000 And we have the AG of New York coming in and opening a criminal investigation.
00:50:36.000 Jack, it's like they're trying to revive a.
00:50:39.000 You remember 2014, 2015?
00:50:41.000 The campus assault hysteria frenzy.
00:50:44.000 It's like they're trying to do a reflex of that.
00:50:46.000 Dude, Mattress Girl, the UVA story.
00:50:50.000 I mean, these were.
00:50:52.000 People have to remember, too, that these were stories that particularly started, coincided with Gamergate, the Nerdgate stuff I was talking about with Game of Thrones, and then the rise of Trump.
00:51:07.000 That these were these super.
00:51:10.000 Just hyper politicized, but like in a cultural Marxist kind of sense, stories that took over our media.
00:51:18.000 We were being told that all men are bad, every male is a potential rapist, that campuses and fraternities were these hotbeds of this activity, and it all fell apart.
00:51:30.000 And funny enough, the original one of these, like the UR campus rape story, of course, fake rape hoax story, was the Duke lacrosse team.
00:51:41.000 And famously, one of the students at Duke University at the time who became very well known on media for speaking out against this was Stephen Miller.
00:51:53.000 I think he was like a college Republican back then.
00:51:55.000 And I know he was in Students for Academic Freedom with David Horowitz, of which I was also a member at the time at Temple University, and also called out the Duke LaCrosse case at the time.
00:52:07.000 That it seems like another one of those.
00:52:09.000 So, you know, as we dig into this Cornell thing, Blake, correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't this something that she filed a lawsuit first and then the lawsuit didn't go anywhere and she just.
00:52:24.000 But she didn't actually claim that it was non consensual two years ago.
00:52:28.000 And now she's claiming it was non consensual.
00:52:31.000 Like she's, oh, I've thought more about it.
00:52:34.000 Like, do I have that correct?
00:52:36.000 That's an angle to this?
00:52:37.000 Well, yeah, no. 1.00
00:52:37.000 So I think the lawsuit is new, but she originally filed a criminal complaint with police. 1.00
00:52:42.000 Okay, I think that's the narrative everyone's digested. 0.90
00:52:44.000 The New York Times reported on this today that she goes to the party, does all that stuff, multiple threesomes.
00:52:52.000 And then afterwards, it seemed they actually, the New York Times, They seem very aware of what's really going on.
00:52:57.000 They charted out that originally she describes it to her friends like it's this extreme thing she's done, like she's so adventurous.
00:53:04.000 And instead, people react, they kind of find it disgusting, they find it upsetting.
00:53:09.000 And then she realizes, oh, this is bad.
00:53:12.000 And then she was actually interested in one of the guys more seriously.
00:53:17.000 And so she was sending him friendly stuff like, oh, you know, it was kind of wild, but you know, nothing illegal happened.
00:53:25.000 Literally, the twist that the New York Times highlights today is she was looking forward to a Halloween party at this fraternity after this all happened.
00:53:34.000 And then the fraternity realized this is getting a lot of heat.
00:53:37.000 People are all talking about this.
00:53:38.000 They uninvite her from this party.
00:53:41.000 And then, as the New York Times puts it, by about November 3rd, she had concluded that what had happened to her in October was an assault.
00:53:49.000 She goes to police.
00:53:50.000 And then it seems, I think what happened is her friends were giving her a lot of shocked reactions.
00:53:56.000 So she dialed back.
00:53:57.000 She tried to.
00:53:58.000 Kind of hide accountability, hide responsibility for this by downplaying her level of consent.
00:54:04.000 Her friends understandably go, Wait, what?
00:54:06.000 Then you got raped, you got assaulted, you need to go to the police.
00:54:10.000 She goes to the police, and then I think the police start asking her the questions you need to ask Did you voluntarily drink alcohol? 0.95
00:54:17.000 Did you deliberately take drugs?
00:54:19.000 Did you consent?
00:54:20.000 Did you ever refuse consent when someone tried to do something?
00:54:23.000 And did they ever not listen?
00:54:25.000 And so on.
00:54:26.000 She wasn't going to lie to the police.
00:54:28.000 So they look at this and they go, Well, this is kind of gross, but it's not a crime.
00:54:33.000 Now we have this entire dramatic aftermath, and it just seems everyone is losing their minds about this, except for actually the view, oddly enough.
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00:55:32.000 And look, the reality is this is like, you know, this is a broken society situation, right?
00:55:40.000 Yes.
00:55:41.000 You shouldn't be, you know, young men shouldn't be putting themselves in these situations.
00:55:45.000 And, you know, because there's scenarios, that's part of the conversation, right?
00:55:50.000 Which is there's scenarios where Like young women get into this embarrassment situation, which this may totally fit that same bill, right?
00:56:00.000 But it's like it's completely unfair to the young man and they drag them through, and then we find out later, like, that this is a hoax or, you know, it was obvious it was a consensual relationship, whatever, right?
00:56:14.000 Because that's at the end of the day, that's what's most meaningful is that, you know, was there consent?
00:56:19.000 Was there, you know, doing all of that?
00:56:21.000 But, In the framework of like a semi normal relationship.
00:56:25.000 And again, where it's like, this is clearly not that, right?
00:56:30.000 This is clearly a situation where society is so broken, right?
00:56:35.000 You have an abnormal relationship, which I'll tell you, I think is the epitome of, again, society really.
00:56:44.000 I mean, they're men, young men, the numbers that were just released this year are getting worse and worse.
00:56:53.000 Young men and young women wanting to be in relationships, particularly young women.
00:56:56.000 It's interesting to me that this blew up when we've seen polls that say, yeah, what, 66% of women say their problems are caused by men?
00:57:03.000 So, problems are caused by men.
00:57:05.000 And again, this situation reinforces it.
00:57:08.000 100%.
00:57:08.000 Right?
00:57:09.000 Because this is one of those situations where clearly, you know, this could be a, the outcome could be that, okay, this was all, you know, consensual or consented or whatever.
00:57:20.000 I don't know.
00:57:20.000 We don't know.
00:57:21.000 Like, we don't know what the situation is, right?
00:57:23.000 You know, God forbid, heaven forbid that it's a situation where it's not.
00:57:27.000 But regardless, the situation is that now you have these things are polarizing to the fact that men and women, young men and young women, get even more freaked out, right?
00:57:39.000 And it's because they're putting themselves in environments that are not normal or healthy or, you know, that are going to take them to closer to marriage or like a relationship.
00:57:50.000 Oh, I want to.
00:57:50.000 Any young man that engages in this, even if this wasn't reported, because 99% of these things don't turn into this, right?
00:57:58.000 99% of these things turn into.
00:58:00.000 Videos getting passed around, right?
00:58:02.000 And ruining people's lives on both sides.
00:58:04.000 Because it's not just the young woman who's embarrassed.
00:58:07.000 It's also a young man later on that's embarrassed because there's a video of him engaging in something that's like, it's totally immoral, demoralizing everything.
00:58:19.000 And they wish they hadn't done it.
00:58:20.000 And then that makes it harder to date.
00:58:22.000 And it makes it harder to get closer to a marriage or it makes it harder to forgive yourself for the type of person you become.
00:58:30.000 And that's really what takes you down roads that are.
00:58:32.000 Are really negative and nasty.
00:58:33.000 And so, you know, the thing that bothers me, and sorry, I'll just finish on this, is like the thing that bothers me about this situation is that I think people get off on the wrong stop on this thing, which is like the first stop is the anger, animosity, I'm with her, the type, like, you know, stand with the young woman who was clearly taken advantage of or whatever, right?
00:58:55.000 And that may be the outcome of this, right?
00:58:58.000 And that's a piece of this.
00:58:59.000 But the bigger picture element of this that's completely ignored, that never gets discussed, that the media for sure never discusses, is like, These are all things that society should be fixing, like trying to fix proactively.
00:59:13.000 And we're right, we're not.
00:59:15.000 In fact, people are saying, like, oh, like, there's a whole element of this of people responding to this, being like, well, it would have been okay if she should.
00:59:24.000 Yeah, you know, and she would have been like, this is okay on OnlyFans.
00:59:27.000 Yeah, it just wouldn't be.
00:59:28.000 And I think I want to flag this.
00:59:30.000 We got a donation message from Zuzu's pedals.
00:59:31.000 And it's like, no, none of this is okay.
00:59:33.000 And none of this behavior is okay in any kind of context.
00:59:37.000 Yeah, I think Zuzu's pedals, she donated.
00:59:39.000 Thank you, Zuzu.
00:59:39.000 And she asked, are you even allowed to say what appendage this girl snorted ketamine on?
00:59:44.000 I think the question kind of answers itself, what that was.
00:59:47.000 And then also.
00:59:48.000 Did this happen because all these people mistook porn for reality?
00:59:52.000 And I think that's part of it.
00:59:53.000 Everyone's like very detached from actual normal relationships.
00:59:57.000 Everything is mediated through fake things, which is TV, all those TV shows, notably, I think we didn't talk about television got a lot more graphic and kind of porny in the last 25 years compared to anything that came before due to HBO subscription prestige channels.
01:00:13.000 They would all have a lot of sex and nudity in them.
01:00:16.000 And then actual just pornography is everywhere now. 0.98
01:00:20.000 And I think this is frying people's brains.
01:00:22.000 It's making them think, oh, this could be a fun thing to try. 0.93
01:00:26.000 And they're all getting one shot by this because actually, this stuff is depraved.
01:00:31.000 It messes you up for life.
01:00:32.000 Mikey, we haven't heard from you.
01:00:34.000 Just what do you make of this?
01:00:36.000 You're also younger.
01:00:36.000 You've seen, you're someone who's actually married, has a normal family life.
01:00:41.000 We thankfully have a lot of people like that in the turning point world.
01:00:44.000 But I feel what's happening to a lot of people is they've been fed this line of, Basically, feminism, like anything is good as long as you consent to it, and there's no dangers to this.
01:00:56.000 And people are getting absolutely cooked when they see the actual consequences of this.
01:01:03.000 Yeah.
01:01:03.000 I mean, you know, hookup culture and like having sex just normally kind of draws this line in the sand where rape is bad.
01:01:11.000 Like, you don't cross that line.
01:01:13.000 But then, secular culture, when it views this like sexual culture as, you know, it becomes more sexy the closer you get to the line.
01:01:23.000 But with like Christian moral behavior, like Christians never define human behavior as how close can you get to the line. 0.66
01:01:32.000 We have like the guardrails of where sex should be. 0.58
01:01:36.000 It should be in the confines of marriage, it should be loving your partner, respecting them.
01:01:41.000 But in this case, it's everything that's the opposite of that.
01:01:43.000 It's how close can you get to the line? 0.94
01:01:45.000 I mean, the girl in this case, you know, it's cited that she snorted ketamine off of one of the guy's genitalia.
01:01:55.000 And involved in this case is there's marijuana, ketamine, alcohol, multiple sexual partners.
01:02:01.000 It's everything that's like, how close can I get to the line without actually crossing the line? 0.99
01:02:07.000 And in a Christian society, none of that is acceptable. 0.96
01:02:10.000 We would never be in a situation like this because we ask ourselves the wrong question.
01:02:17.000 Oftentimes in situations like this, the question is, was there consent?
01:02:22.000 And that is an important question.
01:02:24.000 It's a moral one, it's a legal question.
01:02:26.000 But the Christian question, it's, You know, was there love?
01:02:30.000 Is there self control?
01:02:31.000 Am I treating my partner, you know, with respect?
01:02:34.000 And that's why it's important in the confines of marriage.
01:02:38.000 And like there's the legal side of this where, you know, there's going to be evidence and hearings and a jury. 0.60
01:02:44.000 But none of this would have happened if these young people were living in a moral and Christian society that asked itself not the wrong questions, but the right questions and didn't put themselves in really dirty positions to begin with. 0.68
01:02:57.000 It's just, it's a difficult case. 0.98
01:02:59.000 And it's also a disgusting case.
01:03:01.000 And I'm sad that we're even having this conversation as a culture.
01:03:05.000 To me, this is all a great exhibit for Chesterton's Fence.
01:03:09.000 That's the idea that before you tear down a tradition, a norm, you have to ask, why was that created?
01:03:17.000 And we had this norm built up.
01:03:18.000 It took centuries, millennia to build up that norm of Christian approach to relationships, dating, marriage, sexuality. 0.75
01:03:27.000 And then in a matter of basically a couple of decades, people said, oh, that must have just been done to control people.
01:03:32.000 And there's no reason to do any of that stuff.
01:03:34.000 Get rid of all of it.
01:03:35.000 And now we're just seeing this absolute cascade of psychological destruction.
01:03:41.000 And it, It kind of makes me angry that a lot of people are going to throw the school, the police, the prosecutors, these boys who made bad decisions.
01:03:51.000 I think it's like pretty gross what they did, but they're going to try to pulverize them a lot more.
01:03:57.000 Like, I don't think they're criminals, basically.
01:03:59.000 And it's like they're basically going to turn them into scapegoats for a giant society wide lie that they feel the need to perpetuate.
01:04:07.000 I want to play this clip because it does intrigue me.
01:04:09.000 This is a Camille, is it Paglia?
01:04:11.000 Paglia?
01:04:12.000 I can never remember if you pronounced the G in that one, but.
01:04:14.000 I think it's Paglia.
01:04:15.000 Paglia, like arch feminist, left wing feminist theorist, but she had a pretty interesting response to this that I kind of want to play. 0.99
01:04:24.000 Let's do clip nine. 0.94
01:04:25.000 You don't think there's a problem with sexual assault? 1.00
01:04:28.000 Because a lot of women are coming forward now.
01:04:29.000 No, no. 0.87
01:04:30.000 Cases of real rape, of course, should be prosecuted.
01:04:33.000 Of course, real rape is a crime.
01:04:35.000 But this is not real rape.
01:04:37.000 We've been arguing about dating encounters with miscommunications now for decades. 0.98
01:04:43.000 It's absolutely infantilizing to women, it must stop.
01:04:46.000 But you know that a lot of women are afraid of sexual assault or have been sexually assaulted.
01:04:52.000 Should they not be able to go and drink and play beer pong and get drunk like the guys do?
01:04:57.000 They live in fear.
01:04:58.000 If you go to a fraternity house party with a chaos going on in the living room area, and a young man says to you, Would you like to go up to my room?
01:05:09.000 I'm sorry, you are consenting to sex.
01:05:12.000 He is right to think you have consented to go up there and change your mind and so on.
01:05:17.000 It's not right, of course, for anyone.
01:05:19.000 To impose themselves sexually on another person, naturally. 0.51
01:05:23.000 But women must realize they are now free.
01:05:26.000 The sexual revolution has been won. 0.97
01:05:29.000 Why are we coddling young women to say, go on being children? 0.93
01:05:35.000 Because mommy and daddy will be there to pick up the pieces for you afterward. 0.95
01:05:38.000 We're going to go on like this, making endless excuses for middle class girls, confused, unsure of what they want. 1.00
01:05:46.000 Perhaps the sexual revolution should be reversed, because what we're showing is that perhaps co education. 0.98
01:05:51.000 Is a bad idea. 0.72
01:05:52.000 Maybe today's young women are not prepared for co education. 0.97
01:05:57.000 I liked that end bit. 0.65
01:05:58.000 Co education was a mistake.
01:06:00.000 Bring it back.
01:06:01.000 Let's go. 1.00
01:06:02.000 Bring back male schools, female schools. 1.00
01:06:06.000 Bring it all back. 1.00
01:06:06.000 We've got to bring it back, guys. 1.00
01:06:09.000 Can I bring up my favorite all time Camille Paglia tweet or saying since we're in here?
01:06:19.000 She was talking about serial killers and she said, Why are there no female Jack the Rippers? 0.82
01:06:26.000 Because the same reason that there's no female Mozarts.
01:06:31.000 Whoa.
01:06:32.000 Wow.
01:06:33.000 Oh, man.
01:06:35.000 She's a Mozart of words, though.
01:06:36.000 I will give her that.
01:06:38.000 She's a really talented person. 0.53
01:06:39.000 She's absolutely phenomenal. 1.00
01:06:40.000 By the way, Jack the Ripper, most likely Polish. 1.00
01:06:42.000 Just saying. 1.00
01:06:43.000 Oh, okay.
01:06:44.000 Wait, are you bragging about that one?
01:06:47.000 I have this theory, and I'm not really sure if it's true or not.
01:06:53.000 It might be a thought crime, but I have this theory that for some reason we Poles have like a.
01:06:58.000 A higher preponderance of others of serial killers, and I've been trying to figure out why that is.
01:07:02.000 Boredom? 1.00
01:07:03.000 And also, it's not random that Wisconsin is home to the highest amount of serial killers, and they're all Polish people. 1.00
01:07:13.000 Are they? 0.99
01:07:13.000 There was also a Polish guy that was there. 0.99
01:07:15.000 Yeah, Wisconsin has one of the highest.
01:07:17.000 Yeah, but I only know the one guy, the guy that they based the Silence of Lambs on. 0.95
01:07:21.000 That guy wasn't Polish.
01:07:22.000 I'm not saying they're Polish.
01:07:23.000 I'm just saying Wisconsin is the highest density of American Poles. 1.00
01:07:28.000 Fair enough. 1.00
01:07:28.000 It's way up there. 1.00
01:07:29.000 Well, the Chicagoland, too, though.
01:07:31.000 Yeah, it's the whole Chicagoland area.
01:07:32.000 Yeah.
01:07:34.000 Believe.
01:07:35.000 There's a lot. 1.00
01:07:36.000 Even if you look at Poland. 0.99
01:07:37.000 The largest number of serial killers is Wisconsin. 0.98
01:07:40.000 Okay.
01:07:41.000 If you look at Poland in the communist era, when it was like the People's Republic of Poland, there was like a pretty high number of serial killers.
01:07:52.000 Yeah, man.
01:07:53.000 Whatever.
01:07:54.000 That's morbid.
01:07:55.000 Okay.
01:07:55.000 The point is, guys, we need to undo coeducation.
01:07:58.000 We need to undo.
01:07:59.000 I don't know if we need to, but I think it's just a strong point that they're going to have this.
01:08:05.000 It's ridiculous that we're going to have this gigantic.
01:08:09.000 Freak out, this gigantic tizzy over this event at Cornell. 0.64
01:08:12.000 And really, it's just screaming at us in our face that the sexual revolution was a mistake, that people actually deep down don't even want this.
01:08:22.000 I think that's actually the most interesting thing about this entire gross story.
01:08:26.000 If you read the details, which I don't really recommend unless you have the stomach for it because a lot of it is very gross, but like the entire thing is like not even arousing.
01:08:36.000 It actually is like it's off putting and gross.
01:08:40.000 And that's what stands out to me about this that there's actually no romance involved in this, no real desire involved.
01:08:46.000 It's people robotically acting out, as Zuzu said, this like porn inflected view of reality.
01:08:53.000 It's cooking people's brains, it's making them miserable, it's creating all these casualties.
01:08:57.000 And that goes back to like what I was saying was that, you know, you're engaging in this because you're not, when you're not interested in trying to seek like actual really, and again, I'm not blaming this situation totally on this.
01:09:10.000 I'm just saying, in general, society, when you have.
01:09:13.000 Young men and young women who have zero interest whatsoever in actually being in a relationship for years, if not decades, or maybe ever, you engage in more of this activity, right?
01:09:23.000 So, what you're saying, we can take it all back to the beginning.
01:09:26.000 People are cooked because they haven't formed relationships and they've spent too much time watching TV.
01:09:32.000 If you're not trying to, if you're not seeking after those types of activities, like the good activities, you're going to fall prey to the bad ones, right?
01:09:43.000 You're going to try to reenact the things that you consume.
01:09:46.000 To your point, like, which is like a highly pornographic society.
01:09:50.000 Like, we've said this many times on this show. 0.99
01:09:53.000 We've talked about this it is shocking what percentage of American young females are on OnlyFans.
01:10:02.000 It is shocking the percentage of young women who engage in even just clickbaity type Instagram content that they're just seeking attention and not really sinking relationships. 0.53
01:10:14.000 Again, you can only do so much with the 24 hours that you have every day.
01:10:18.000 And if you're spending all of your time for years, like getting paid now, and I actually think, I totally think that it's one of the worst things that could ever happen to society is the monetization on social media.
01:10:32.000 Like it's very democratizing.
01:10:33.000 And I, and I told, and like people have lauded it because they're like, this is great.
01:10:37.000 Like you can be a small business owner.
01:10:38.000 Yeah.
01:10:38.000 Well, your small business ownership now in America, predominantly with young women, is getting clicks for posting bikini pics.
01:10:45.000 Like that is an absolutely terrible, uh, A terrible situation that's happened for young Americans.
01:10:56.000 And it's going to cause further delays in building families, which means further delays in maturation, which means that America is going to get sicker mentally, physically, like as a society.
01:11:09.000 Like it just, it is.
01:11:10.000 Like, and this type of activity, again, if you're in the mindset, it's like, oh, well, I'm basically just like a click person, I'm not worried about getting married for a decade.
01:11:21.000 I might dabble in this activity that's going to be like, it's going to get, you know, whatever, 10 years from now, no one's going to care.
01:11:26.000 I think.
01:11:27.000 I think, well, 10 years from now, you should probably already have two kids in a long term career and focused on where your life's going to go.
01:11:35.000 And that's just not where young Americans' brains are at, unfortunately, as an average right now.
01:11:39.000 I think, terrible.
01:11:40.000 I mean, I'll just throw it out there.
01:11:44.000 You know how to solve this stuff.
01:11:46.000 I've been saying it for eight years now be a rebel, start a family, right?
01:11:49.000 Just go into this with the basic Christian view of marriage and say, this is what I'm dating for. 0.73
01:11:58.000 Date to marry, obviously.
01:12:00.000 And you're looking for a partner for the rest of your life and start those young.
01:12:04.000 Start those young because the younger you have kids, shout out to Mikey McCoy on that one, the more time you get to spend with them.
01:12:13.000 It's as simple as that.
01:12:15.000 Yep.
01:12:15.000 Being a young dad's fun.
01:12:18.000 Being a dad at all is fun.
01:12:19.000 And that's like, again, it's the best.
01:12:22.000 I mean, there's nothing more gratifying and I'm more grateful for it.
01:12:27.000 It's like, I think about this all the time, especially as a dad that's raising a teenager now where it's like, I'm so glad that my teenager, when he's busy doing things that are positive, right?
01:12:37.000 Like he has a girlfriend right now, like he's doing positive things that versus negative things.
01:12:44.000 And if you have like, if you're idle, what they say about idle hands, you know, actually lead to really bad things.
01:12:52.000 It's the same thing for adults.
01:12:54.000 If you're not, if you're not like looking after kids and are busy yourself with, you know, your kids' activities and doing these, like you can easily slip into and fall into.
01:13:06.000 You know, bad habits, bad activities, and things that just aren't going to make your life better.
01:13:11.000 And so that starts at the moment you turn 18 and you get out of the house.
01:13:15.000 And it can continue till the day that you leave this earth at an old age.
01:13:20.000 And we've seen stories of all of the above.
01:13:22.000 You know, I have friends that have had family members that have fallen prey.
01:13:26.000 Because again, how many times have we seen where the kids leave the house or something and they end up in severe alcoholism or whatever, right?
01:13:35.000 Like drug addictions at an old age, a very old age.
01:13:38.000 Again, happen idle hands like you have nothing going on, and it's like all of a sudden you can slip into these things, any person can feel fall prey to it.
01:13:47.000 All righty, before we wrap, I think we basically approached the end point.
01:13:51.000 I think the main takeaway here is yeah, go out, start a family, which means watch less TV, actually, even though we just spent 45 minutes discussing it.
01:13:59.000 No, no, no, find someone you can watch TV with, right?
01:14:04.000 Like that's that's a cool part of being in a relationship.
01:14:06.000 Find someone, you know, Jack's right, who's your TV watcher?
01:14:10.000 What do you take?
01:14:12.000 Absolutely.
01:14:12.000 But before we go, I did want to throw this up, guys.
01:14:15.000 It was real quick.
01:14:17.000 I did get to spend a little time with our favorite vice president yesterday aboard Air Force Two.
01:14:24.000 And in fact, I got him to comment on something that was a huge topic here on Thought Crime a couple of weeks ago.
01:14:32.000 Guys, play clip 14.
01:14:34.000 Soaring jobs, importing cheap porn labor.
01:14:37.000 Like, I just think you have to level with people that if you're trying to undo 40 years of bad policy, of globalization, of shipping American jobs overseas, It's going to take a little bit of time to fix that.
01:14:48.000 Now, do I think we've made incredible progress?
01:14:50.000 Absolutely.
01:14:51.000 But I think we just have to be honest with people.
01:14:52.000 Look, we're trying to fix what was broken over 40 years.
01:14:56.000 Everything was not going to be fixed in 18 months, but you can't ignore people's concerns.
01:15:00.000 And so, you know, on the one hand, you have the president talking about all the great building that's happening.
01:15:05.000 You have me sort of acknowledging that it's going to take a long time to rebuild the American middle class.
01:15:11.000 And on the other hand, you have a few tone deaf Republicans who say, shut up if you're pissed off about a $22 burrito.
01:15:17.000 Well, my response to those people is, no, listen to people who are upset with the state of the economy.
01:15:23.000 If we don't listen to people, We will turn into the very thing that we hate, the very thing that we ran against, the very man.
01:15:31.000 You're dropping that without Andrew around.
01:15:33.000 No, Andrew around to react to the burrito.
01:15:35.000 That was a sick shot, too. 0.80
01:15:37.000 The way the window, like, you're just it's so sick, bro.
01:15:41.000 It's great, isn't it?
01:15:42.000 And we actually didn't play it in that clip, but we actually land in the interview.
01:15:48.000 So, like, the plane actually lands at Andrew's.
01:15:51.000 So, like, we're talking, and he goes, Oh, yeah, we're about to land.
01:15:55.000 So, tell your camera guy to like brace, and like, his staff just grabs.
01:16:01.000 Our camera guy for Rav, and he's like, they're holding on to him, and we just sort of hit, and it's like, boom!
01:16:06.000 And he just keeps talking.
01:16:07.000 I'm like, I don't know if that's ever happened in an interview before, but it was just, it was cool.
01:16:12.000 Man.
01:16:14.000 And when you landed, did you go and get a $23 burrito?
01:16:18.000 We split it, actually.
01:16:19.000 Times are tough.
01:16:20.000 Oh, man.
01:16:21.000 That's, that's, you know, a lot of fun.
01:16:22.000 Even for the vice president.
01:16:23.000 All right, Jack, take us home.
01:16:24.000 You know, there are ways to get cheaper burritos, just so everybody's aware.
01:16:28.000 So support your local.
01:16:31.000 Support your local, you know, hole in the wall.
01:16:34.000 Actually, I'll save this as a thought crime for maybe next week, but I'm getting sick of those people who buy a 3D printer and make absolute 3D printed slop and call themselves a small business.
01:16:45.000 I'm not supporting you.
01:16:47.000 It's not good.
01:16:48.000 3D printed slop is not supporting local businesses, and I'm sick of it.
01:16:52.000 And someone had to say it.
01:16:54.000 Someone had to say it.
01:16:55.000 It's gone too far.
01:16:56.000 Ladies and gentlemen, on that note, as always, go out there, commit more thought crime.
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