The Charlie Kirk Show - December 30, 2025


“Chasing Pirates” in Minnesota: Exposing the Tim Walz Fraud ft. Nick Shirley


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Tricia McLaughlin, Assistant Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) calls in to talk about the growing problem of immigrant child labor in the United States, and how the government is cracking down on it. She also talks about the massive fraud uncovered in the case of Somali immigrant families in Minnesota.

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00:01:10.000 Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:01:11.000 I'm Andrew Colvett, executive producer of this show, joined by Blake Neff, who is in an undisclosed location in hold on.
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00:01:22.000 Come at me, bro.
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00:01:29.000 You look like you're in a hostage situation, Blake.
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00:01:34.000 It's called Family Vacations, Family Holidays.
00:01:37.000 Exactly.
00:01:38.000 We're going to load up with this Minnesota story.
00:01:41.000 It's just, it's so big.
00:01:42.000 It's so important because I think it's going to unlock a lot of other storylines that we're going to see play out in 2026.
00:01:49.000 Here to get us started is the great Tricia McLaughlin, Assistant Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security.
00:01:56.000 She is calling in.
00:01:57.000 Tricia, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:02:00.000 Andrew, thanks so much for having me.
00:02:02.000 Thank you for joining us.
00:02:04.000 We were discussing it really all month.
00:02:07.000 This story out of Minnesota with the Somalis.
00:02:11.000 It started with talking about their auth.
00:02:14.000 It was coverage of the autism centers, talking about Medicaid fraud, talking about all sorts of stuff.
00:02:21.000 But now what's really gone ultra viral, and we'll have them on later in the show, Nick Shirley knocking on the doors of some daycares, people becoming really aware of that there's dozens, hundreds of these daycares with supposedly hundreds of children at them getting millions of taxpayer dollars.
00:02:38.000 Some of them may not exist at all.
00:02:39.000 Some of them may be massively exaggerating how many services they provide.
00:02:43.000 This has really become, it's gone insanely viral.
00:02:47.000 I think Nick Shirley's video is around 120 million views at this point.
00:02:52.000 It's gotten, it's become this symbol, I think, for a lot of the right and really the wider America of the downsides of immigration.
00:03:01.000 And it's been getting a lot of attention now from the Trump administration, from DOJ, and your own DHS.
00:03:08.000 So how about you tell our listeners what's been going on as a result of that?
00:03:13.000 Absolutely.
00:03:14.000 And thank you for having me.
00:03:15.000 So right now on the ground in Minneapolis, Homeland Security investigators are going door to door to these suspected fraud sites, whether it be daycare centers or healthcare centers and businesses around them as well to get more information and to make sure we're following the money here.
00:03:32.000 And we bring arrests and prosecutions and ultimately removals.
00:03:36.000 But if you rewind a couple of months, while this is HSI, which is part of ICE on the ground, we've also had an ongoing ICE operation for the past two months, Operation Twin Shields.
00:03:50.000 We've arrested about 500 illegal aliens, many of which are from the Somalian population.
00:03:58.000 As well, there's been an ongoing USCIS immigration fraud investigation.
00:04:04.000 We've had about a thousand cases there so far, and about half of which we've found fraud.
00:04:12.000 Yeah, there's this word that has been making the rounds on X and other venues, and that word is denaturalization.
00:04:21.000 And for those who don't know, that would refer to basically removing citizenship from somebody who had gained citizenship before.
00:04:29.000 And America does that very, very rarely, but it's getting brought up, especially in relation to these fraud cases, because if someone was engaging in widespread fraud from when they arrived, that would seem like a valid grounds to say giving you citizenship was a mistake and you should be removed.
00:04:46.000 Has there been any progress on that front?
00:04:48.000 Do you have anything you can tell us there?
00:04:50.000 Yeah, so President Trump, really since the start of his administration, but then really became a focus following the terrorist attack against the two National Guardsmen out of Washington right ahead of Thanksgiving, there was really a focus on auditing those who have come into our country, whether they had become citizens, coming through visas or green cards, particularly for these 19 countries of concern.
00:05:19.000 So that's something that President Trump has made a major focus is these people, sure, did they come in the legal way?
00:05:27.000 We're looking at it.
00:05:28.000 We're looking at did they come under fraudulent circumstances, exploiting the system?
00:05:33.000 Did they lie on their applications?
00:05:35.000 Those are all things that would be grounds for denaturalization.
00:05:39.000 So as far as on this specific Somalian front, I don't have a specific update there, but across the board, this is something that we're really auditing and recognizing the massive amount of fraud and abuse that's happened in our illegal immigration system.
00:05:54.000 Tricia, we are seeing this surge of HSI, all the videos coming out.
00:05:59.000 You mentioned it, but there's other states that are now being highlighted as well.
00:06:03.000 Ohio has a huge Somali population.
00:06:06.000 Columbus, I believe, is the second largest population.
00:06:09.000 Washington State, there is a lot of allegations that California has a lot of rampant fraud as well.
00:06:16.000 Meanwhile, they're trying to raise a billionaire tax, 5% of the wealth of billionaires to pay for health care.
00:06:24.000 Meanwhile, all this fraud is happening.
00:06:26.000 Can you hint at some of the plans that are going to be outside of the state of Minnesota as well?
00:06:32.000 Is this going to be nationwide?
00:06:34.000 What can you tell us?
00:06:35.000 Yeah, I think you're going to see that Minnesota is a blueprint for what's going to happen nationwide.
00:06:39.000 I'm actually in Columbus, Ohio, as we speak.
00:06:41.000 This is where I'm from.
00:06:42.000 And we see a lot of these similar, a lot of it's copy-paste or similar networks as far as the potential and suspected crime and fraud that we are seeing.
00:06:55.000 But I think what you're also going to see, and we've started to see this with the FBI and Homeland Security investigations, but you're going to see a lot more action from the Treasury Department and other facets of the U.S. government that a lot of people, you know, maybe aren't as familiar with as far as tracking this kind of crime and fraud and abuse.
00:07:16.000 So we're going to be seeing more and more of that across not just Minnesota, not just Ohio, but across the country.
00:07:23.000 Great.
00:07:23.000 And one other question here.
00:07:25.000 So go ahead and put up this political article.
00:07:28.000 Trump admin can share immigrants Medicaid data with ICE, a judge has ruled.
00:07:34.000 Tricia, how big of a ruling is this?
00:07:36.000 And what kind of, you know, what are you going to, what do you expect to find here?
00:07:42.000 And why did 21 blue states sue the Trump administration to block them getting this information?
00:07:50.000 I was credibly informed that immigrants, illegals, do not get Medicaid.
00:07:57.000 How many times were we told that over and over and over again?
00:08:00.000 I think that this is a very, first of all, it's a good sign because we also have a similar case with the IRS.
00:08:07.000 The Trump administration, I think, I was in the first administration and this administration far more than under Trump 45.
00:08:15.000 We are doing much better at sharing information across agencies.
00:08:19.000 And that it makes us a lot more efficient so that we can root out this fraud and also identify those who are on the books who are getting Medicaid are there public benefits in there if they're in the country illegally.
00:08:30.000 It helps us to really target these people and remove them from the country.
00:08:35.000 So we've also are working on sharing IRS data.
00:08:39.000 But of course, we're told time and time again that this is something that's not happening.
00:08:44.000 This fraud and exploitation isn't occurring, but it is.
00:08:47.000 And I think part of the reason that these states and these politicians are so afraid is it's going to show that they were culpable, that they knew that this fraud was occurring and not only let it occur, but enabled it.
00:08:58.000 Wow, that's a big, a big storyline.
00:09:00.000 We actually had Harmeet Dylan on yesterday talking about what it would look like to indict a sitting governor, say Tim Waltz.
00:09:07.000 But I have a feeling that as we go down this rabbit hole, we're going to find a lot of elected officials who are culpable and complicit.
00:09:16.000 Trisha McLaughlin, thank you for joining us.
00:09:18.000 I know you've been traveling, so thanks for making the time.
00:09:20.000 We appreciate it.
00:09:21.000 Andrew, thanks so much.
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00:10:28.000 Blake, a gentleman named Josh Gerstein is making the rounds this morning.
00:10:33.000 Go ahead and throw up 168.
00:10:35.000 So he's the legal affairs reporter or analyst or whatever for Politico.
00:10:40.000 He says, at some point, the amateur effort to knock on doors of home daycares intersects with robust stand-your-ground laws.
00:10:47.000 And the good folks on Xerxes.
00:10:50.000 Yes, stand-your-ground laws, remove the duty to retreat from a threat when a person is in a place they have a legal right to be.
00:10:58.000 Knocking on the door of a supposedly public business does not constitute a threat.
00:11:03.000 So stand your ground could not be invoked as a defense.
00:11:06.000 Now, I have a few thoughts on that, and it's pretty remarkable.
00:11:11.000 First of all, it's amazing to see I've been around for a while.
00:11:15.000 I'm a bit older than a lot of our turning point base.
00:11:19.000 So I, of course, remember the infamous Trayvon Martin George Zimmerman case.
00:11:24.000 And I think that legitimately drove the left insane on this topic, where it's like the joke.
00:11:31.000 They just refuse to understand the core concept because they were so angry that George Zimmerman was able to defend himself from a guy bashing his head into the pavement.
00:11:40.000 And now they think stand your ground is a magical thing that lets you just shoot anyone for any reason.
00:11:48.000 And no, it's never worked that way.
00:11:50.000 It's definitely, and I think that the Zimmerman case didn't even apply to it as a stand-your ground one.
00:11:55.000 Was normal self-defense.
00:11:57.000 So it shows they're continuing thing.
00:11:58.000 But the darker thing here that I think is worth highlighting is what this clearly gets at, and I don't know, and Gerstein seems to be manifesting it, but definitely other people are, is like the left really does have this dark desire.
00:12:14.000 Whatever the law is, they really want somebody to get shot in the face while doing this.
00:12:20.000 They badly want it to take place.
00:12:23.000 And that's how you end up posting stuff like this.
00:12:25.000 Yeah, I mean, think about what this.
00:12:28.000 So, so Nick Shirley helps expose.
00:12:31.000 I mean, he sort of popularized what had already been exposed, which is an important piece of any puzzle.
00:12:37.000 So you have to understand that.
00:12:38.000 So, I mean, I used to talk about this with Charlie all the time.
00:12:41.000 You know, our job was to sort of popularize things that were important for people to know.
00:12:46.000 There's people doing good reporting out there.
00:12:48.000 It needs to get out there.
00:12:49.000 And sometimes that's the job of shows like this.
00:12:52.000 And that's why we try and highlight good reporting.
00:12:55.000 So good reporting happens.
00:12:57.000 Nick Shirley helps blow the lid on this massive fraud scandal that's plaguing our nation to the tune of billions and billions of dollars in Medicare and Medicaid fraud.
00:13:06.000 And instead of supporting the exposing this, a reporter who is, let me get this title exactly right, the senior legal affairs reporter for Politico, prior ABC White House and China correspondent CNN. 0.98
00:13:25.000 So instead of supporting this, he says, oh, when you expose fraud, you should kill these people. 1.00
00:13:32.000 You should shoot them. 1.00
00:13:34.000 This is insane. 1.00
00:13:35.000 This is why the mainstream news media has lost so much standing in the minds of the American population.
00:13:41.000 Absolutely incredible thing to conclude that you're in the business of exposing corruption.
00:13:49.000 If you are a reporter, that is essentially your core job and function.
00:13:54.000 So Nick Shirley exposes corruption and fraud, and this guy suggests that he should be shot in a stand-your-ground law, which doesn't, and by the way, and you even get it wrong.
00:14:05.000 You're a legal affairs reporter and you get the law wrong. 0.98
00:14:10.000 I mean, the whole thing is just absolutely asinine. 0.96
00:14:13.000 And it's hard to believe that this is like the state of American journalism. 0.90
00:14:18.000 Well, it's funny, too, because they're speculating this about public businesses, and Washington Post reporters will just show up and knock on the door of your house to harass you.
00:14:31.000 A fact I know because Eric Wemple of the Washington Post did that to my house once in 2020. 0.96
00:14:37.000 Like, disgusting people.
00:14:40.000 Yeah, it's a pretty remarkable thing to watch happen. 0.82
00:14:45.000 But this is why you have to understand how much pushback that President Trump is getting, how much pushback the Trump administration is getting.
00:14:54.000 The fact that Eric Swalwell and Nancy Pelosi are already talking about what they're going to do to President Trump and his cabinet if they get power back in the House in 2026.
00:15:05.000 They're already going to impeach him.
00:15:06.000 They're going to investigate.
00:15:08.000 They're going to try and impeach cabinet members.
00:15:11.000 All this to gum up the works.
00:15:12.000 They know they're not going to be able to remove these people, but they're going to try and make their lives miserable.
00:15:17.000 And that's the whole point.
00:15:18.000 They're going to try and grab headlines.
00:15:21.000 This is why Trump is, you know, the bases, you know, they want results now.
00:15:27.000 They want more indictments.
00:15:28.000 They want more prosecutions.
00:15:30.000 I fully understand that.
00:15:31.000 I sympathize with that.
00:15:32.000 I'm told much more is underway in the works.
00:15:36.000 But you have to look at what they are doing when good people do good work and good journalism, when the administration moves the country in the right direction, when the ship is getting righted as it is right now.
00:15:48.000 Rome wasn't built in a day, but this is why they fight him.
00:15:52.000 It's a testament to the Trump administration of just how effective they are.
00:15:57.000 If you just look at how terrible they've been treated, how they are still, how Trump and the administration are still viewed as existential threats to the Democratic Party.
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00:17:08.000 We are very fortunate to have the man behind the biggest story in the country for the last couple of days.
00:17:16.000 That is Nick Shirley, independent journalist.
00:17:19.000 He's doing amazing work.
00:17:20.000 Nick, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:17:23.000 And I have to tell you that you, and I want our audience to know, you were the last live guest on the Charlie Kirk show before the news happened on 9-10.
00:17:33.000 And so sort of a tragic reminder, but I'm just so pleased to see how well you're doing.
00:17:41.000 And it brings us all joy to see the good work that you're doing in Minneapolis and beyond.
00:17:47.000 Thank you.
00:17:48.000 It's been a crazy past few days as we've been uncovering what could potentially be one of the largest fraud scandals in American history out here in Minnesota.
00:17:57.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:17:58.000 And, you know, you call it chasing pirates.
00:18:00.000 You, you know, I have to ask you, how did you get turned on to this story in the first place, Nick?
00:18:08.000 Well, I've known about the fraud taking place for a very long time.
00:18:11.000 Ever since last June, I made my first visit to Minnesota, kind of documenting how what's been happening inside of the state.
00:18:18.000 And then a lot of the locals were telling me about the fraud that was taking place within the daycares.
00:18:23.000 They also have their houses where they're running home health care businesses out of.
00:18:28.000 But I could never, I couldn't dedicate the time to be able to get all the information with everything else I have to do with my YouTube channel.
00:18:36.000 And so I was very fortunate when this man by the name of David reached out to me.
00:18:41.000 And me and him were able to collaborate and he was able to go out and get the numbers as he's been looking into this fraud for years now.
00:18:47.000 So it was a joint effort and I was super happy to be able to amplify his voice and his work that he's been able to do.
00:18:54.000 Yeah.
00:18:54.000 And with my work as well.
00:18:56.000 Yeah.
00:18:57.000 Tell us more about David.
00:18:58.000 Who is he?
00:18:59.000 And, you know, how do people follow him, follow his work as well?
00:19:03.000 I was trying to look around.
00:19:05.000 I didn't see much on him.
00:19:06.000 He's just a local legend.
00:19:08.000 Just plain and simple.
00:19:10.000 He's a lifelong local legend in Minnesota.
00:19:13.000 And we have to keep him pretty anonymous.
00:19:16.000 I can't say too much about him because people are even recognizing him out in places.
00:19:21.000 And I don't want anything to happen to David.
00:19:23.000 So he's just a local legend that cares a lot about his city, wants the best for his city, and is sick of seeing American pirates steal money from hardworking taxpaying citizens here.
00:19:34.000 Yeah, that's amazing.
00:19:36.000 So, so, Nick, first question, second question rather, is what has, what has it been like to see the Attorney General of the United States tagging you in posts?
00:19:48.000 The FBI is responding.
00:19:51.000 Did you have any inkling when you were doing this investigation that it had this potential?
00:19:56.000 I knew it had a lot of potential, and I'm super happy to see how people are reacting to it now.
00:20:03.000 And it's also very sad to see how people are trying to like justify the fraud.
00:20:08.000 It's pretty hilarious, actually.
00:20:09.000 But it's actually amazing how the Trump administration, because this is a great opportunity for them to go in and really show people, okay, we're paying attention.
00:20:18.000 Like, what do you make?
00:20:21.000 And it did more than all other mainstream networks in one day.
00:20:26.000 What do you make of this Washington Post reporter?
00:20:29.000 I'm sure you saw this where he suggested that you deserve to have someone pull a stand your ground on you because you show up at these businesses.
00:20:38.000 Well, I never tried to go inside of any of the businesses.
00:20:41.000 I never forced my way into any of the businesses.
00:20:44.000 I simply just asked if I could enroll a child, just like a typical operation, like just a typical operation that a parent would go to when he's daycare centers.
00:20:53.000 So I wasn't putting in force or anything.
00:20:56.000 I was simply just asking, can I put my son Joey into daycare?
00:21:00.000 And they couldn't answer that question.
00:21:02.000 Well, I think that's people are noticing the quality learning thing, but I think that is actually probably the best, the best part of the montage for me is when you just ask, can I enroll a child here?
00:21:13.000 And the person immediately responds, why?
00:21:18.000 Yeah.
00:21:19.000 It's like so obvious.
00:21:21.000 And the whole thing with the quality learning center, too, it's hilarious because while Somalis were bussing in children, the commissioner of, I think, chat, one of the Department of Children or something, she was on a live stream at the same time talking about how they closed the daycare a week ago.
00:21:42.000 So they had the Somalis bussing in children trying to cover up. 0.98
00:21:46.000 Meanwhile, the lady who's in charge is saying they closed the daycare a week ago.
00:21:50.000 Meanwhile, the video had been filmed more than a week ago.
00:21:54.000 So, and I posted the original video of me outside of the daycare about a week ago.
00:21:58.000 And then I was able to produce the entire documentary when I was at home for Christmas.
00:22:04.000 Nick, you've been pretty loud on your social media about the fact that you think Tim Waltz needs to be held accountable for this.
00:22:12.000 What in your reporting has led you to believe that the complicity here or culpability goes all the way up to the top in the state of Minnesota?
00:22:21.000 I think $9 billion is a lot of money.
00:22:24.000 And so if the governor is knowing that all this money is going out, I think the governor should know about $9 billion being sent to these welfare programs and these other businesses fraudulently.
00:22:39.000 And then there's nobody at the businesses.
00:22:41.000 Yeah.
00:22:42.000 In these neighborhoods, Nick, you made some comment.
00:22:45.000 I think it was on Fox News where you were saying that this whole racket is kept alive by the fact that these politicians need the Somalian votes at this point.
00:22:54.000 They've become a huge voting block within the state of Minnesota.
00:22:58.000 When you're walking through these neighborhoods on the ground, what percentage of the population does it feel like is Somalian?
00:23:05.000 Are these neighborhoods almost entirely Somalian now?
00:23:08.000 They've kind of moved in, or is it 50-50?
00:23:11.000 What's it feel like?
00:23:12.000 Like 95% in certain neighborhoods throughout Minneapolis.
00:23:16.000 Wow.
00:23:17.000 Especially in areas like Cedar Riverside.
00:23:19.000 I mean, a lot of these apartment complexes, I said on Fox, but a lot of these apartment complexes, white people and anybody who's not Somalian have been pushed out of these apartment complexes because they claim that people are Islamophobic or racist and they're able to get the landlords to then kick them out because of those claims.
00:23:37.000 And so you have entire apartment complexes that are full of Somalian people.
00:23:42.000 They're not even making money.
00:23:43.000 And 81% of the population, the Somalian population here in Minnesota, lives off of welfare. 1.00
00:23:49.000 These people have four wives and they run these daycare companies.
00:23:54.000 I doubt they're paying the wives. 0.56
00:23:56.000 And so then those wives are able to also claim welfare while they're receiving millions of dollars from the government.
00:24:01.000 It's a huge, it's like a, like the roots are deep in this fraud.
00:24:05.000 Yeah.
00:24:06.000 I'm going to play a clip from Tim Waltz here, Nick, and have you respond to it where he's accusing the Trump admin of white supremacy.
00:24:13.000 120.
00:24:14.000 This is what happens when your own federal government wages war against you.
00:24:18.000 This is what happens when they target communities for their own benefit.
00:24:21.000 This is what happens when they scapegoat.
00:24:24.000 And this is what happens when they no longer hide the idea of white supremacy when you hear the vice president of the United States talk about now white people won't have to apologize for being white. 0.99
00:24:33.000 That's never happened once in my whole damn life. 0.96
00:24:36.000 And I think everybody in this room knows what they're doing. 0.98
00:24:38.000 So we're here today to say enough of this.
00:24:41.000 We're here today to stand that Minnesota will protect their neighbors.
00:24:45.000 Nick, what do you make of his?
00:24:48.000 Yeah, go ahead.
00:24:48.000 Tim Waltz is in total panic.
00:24:51.000 He's in total panic right now.
00:24:52.000 He doesn't know what to do because he knows the fraud's catching up.
00:24:55.000 He's trying to run for re-election.
00:24:56.000 Meanwhile, he's probably trying to decide whether or not he should resign to try not to accountability for what's happening.
00:25:02.000 And then he's going to blame the white man.
00:25:06.000 It really, Tim Walz always strikes me as he's like a time warp from 2015 or 2017.
00:25:14.000 There's just this type of person.
00:25:16.000 And he's that type of person where anything he doesn't like, he's just going to instantly shut it down by pointing and screaming racist.
00:25:24.000 And the sad thing is it's Minnesota, so it might work.
00:25:28.000 Have you heard anything?
00:25:29.000 Have you heard anything from locals in Minnesota who've reached out to you or sent you any interesting stories for follow-ups or just interesting anecdotes you think might be good to share?
00:25:41.000 Oh, I've received thousands of messages from people in Minnesota.
00:25:43.000 Everyone's thankful that this fraud is being exposed.
00:25:45.000 Nobody wants their money going to fraudulent businesses like Dayton's or even having the potential to be wired off to Somalia.
00:25:56.000 Our money should stay here inside the United States, especially if it's tax dollars.
00:26:00.000 Yep.
00:26:00.000 Yep.
00:26:01.000 Nick, what are you planning on doing next, Nick?
00:26:03.000 Can you give us a hint of what you're currently working on?
00:26:08.000 Are you going to stay on the fraud beat?
00:26:09.000 There's a lot of fraud happening here in Minnesota.
00:26:12.000 So I have a part two coming out very soon of the fraud because there's a whole nother layer of that that we weren't even able to put into this first video.
00:26:20.000 And so we're working on that as well.
00:26:23.000 Wow.
00:26:25.000 Nick, I hope you're staying safe.
00:26:27.000 We have the URL down there, blacklineguardianfund.com.
00:26:33.000 Obviously, here on this show, the Charlie Kirk show, we take that very seriously.
00:26:39.000 And please, if you're watching this and you want to support Nick's work, help him with his security.
00:26:45.000 It's really, really important.
00:26:46.000 BlacklineGuardianFund.com.
00:26:50.000 Please, please, please consider giving Nick some backing.
00:26:53.000 He's got to stay safe out there.
00:26:55.000 And now his profile is larger than ever.
00:26:57.000 So Nick, if you want to just mention that and has your ability to do your work on the ground, has it changed given just how much your profile has increased?
00:27:07.000 Yeah, it's changed exponentially.
00:27:08.000 So with that Blackline Guardian, it's actually really cool because it's just essentially a nonprofit that Officer Katam set up a while back and all the funds go directly to me.
00:27:19.000 So like right now I have security with me and it's because of that.
00:27:22.000 And it's essential because people are, I mean, people are doxing me.
00:27:27.000 They're doxing like members of my family.
00:27:30.000 And so it's like actually very worrisome.
00:27:32.000 I'm like, like some Indian Indian newspaper did a whole entire article doxing my family yesterday.
00:27:37.000 I was like, what the heck?
00:27:39.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:27:40.000 And I don't put in my family name being silly.
00:27:43.000 So it's very, it's like sad.
00:27:44.000 It's like, are you serious?
00:27:46.000 I never wanted to have to have security.
00:27:48.000 Yeah.
00:27:48.000 No, as Nick, I can say as somebody who's lived through doxing in the recent months, it's a pretty terrible experience.
00:27:55.000 And when the family gets involved, when we start targeting family members, it's awful.
00:28:00.000 So again, please stay safe, Nick.
00:28:03.000 We can't wait for part two.
00:28:04.000 I know you got to run because you're chasing pirates right now.
00:28:08.000 You're on the road.
00:28:10.000 So, you know, God bless you.
00:28:11.000 Stay safe.
00:28:12.000 And thanks for making the time coming on the show.
00:28:14.000 Of course.
00:28:15.000 Thank you guys.
00:28:16.000 Yeah.
00:28:16.000 And, you know, thanks for being the last live guest on the show on 9-10, which is pretty creepy, but in some ways fitting seeing the great things that you're doing now.
00:28:28.000 So, you know, the baton has passed to a lot of people and you're one of them, Nick.
00:28:34.000 So Godspeed, my friend.
00:28:36.000 Thank you.
00:28:36.000 Meeting you carry on a legacy.
00:28:38.000 Yeah, man.
00:28:39.000 God bless you guys.
00:28:40.000 Bye-bye.
00:28:41.000 See you.
00:28:43.000 Nick Shirley.
00:28:44.000 He's out literally right now.
00:28:46.000 We were going to do a video and he calls me and he goes, hey, I can't do it because I'm out chasing pirates.
00:28:52.000 Can I do a call in?
00:28:53.000 You know, I just want to throw out this point that I think is very important, which it's good for us to expose the fraud that's going on with these daycare and Medicaid things, but also we just shouldn't do this in the first place with people that we're bringing from the other side of the world. 1.00
00:29:07.000 If they need infinite welfare for Medicaid, for daycare, for everything, they probably just shouldn't be here in the first place.
00:29:14.000 Just deport. 0.99
00:29:16.000 Deport.
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00:30:28.000 Blake, we're getting lots of positive emails about Nick Shirley.
00:30:31.000 I think this is a lot of people.
00:30:32.000 A lot of people really like him.
00:30:35.000 We've got, you know, what a hero.
00:30:37.000 Keep on this story.
00:30:38.000 We have, thank you for inviting Nick.
00:30:41.000 This kid in quotes is an American hero.
00:30:44.000 I guess, you know, he probably isn't a kid.
00:30:48.000 Kyrie says, hey, guys, thanks for having Nick Shirley on the show and sharing the way we can help him stay safe in addition to prayers, of course.
00:30:55.000 So glad he has security.
00:30:56.000 My family has been concerned.
00:30:59.000 We just got a bunch of those.
00:31:00.000 I think we got about eight to ten just in the span of that segment.
00:31:04.000 So if you guys like a segment, definitely let us know at Freedom.
00:31:07.000 And we'll be doing a year-end review just up ahead.
00:31:10.000 So if you have thoughts about Charlie and your favorite moments of the past year, of course, before the tragedy, be sure to send those in and we'll give a look at those.
00:31:19.000 Yeah, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:31:21.000 I want to, as we're playing back the year in retrospective, I want to be reading a lot of your emails.
00:31:28.000 So please, freedom at charliekirk.com, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:31:32.000 And what a year it's been.
00:31:33.000 It's been a terrible year.
00:31:35.000 It's been a tragic year.
00:31:36.000 We've seen miracles.
00:31:37.000 We've seen God's provision in the midst of a terrible, terrible storm.
00:31:42.000 And so, and you guys in the audience have been a huge part of that.
00:31:44.000 Your support.
00:31:45.000 I mean, when we went to Amfest, Blake, I actually didn't get to confer with you on this, but at Amfest, it was, I think I was honest with the audience.
00:31:53.000 I said I wasn't really looking forward to it this year.
00:31:56.000 I was kind of dreading it because it was the first one without Charlie.
00:31:58.000 And then I, you know, went in kind of because I had to, honestly.
00:32:03.000 And you guys gave me so much love and support and encouragement.
00:32:06.000 And I'm sure, Blake, you experienced that too.
00:32:08.000 The Prove Me Wrong was huge and the members podcast room was huge and those episodes are dropping.
00:32:16.000 So it's been amazing for your support.
00:32:18.000 All right.
00:32:19.000 So Blake, I was reflecting on Amfest and all the love we got.
00:32:23.000 Did you get some attention there, Blake?
00:32:26.000 This is new.
00:32:26.000 No, a little bit, a little bit.
00:32:29.000 I would always stop and take photos with people.
00:32:31.000 I think that's a good rule.
00:32:33.000 Charlie gave me, if someone wants to take a photo with you, always say yes.
00:32:36.000 I think that's a good principle to follow.
00:32:40.000 I had to wear my blue blazer three days in a row, which might have stank a bit by the end.
00:32:45.000 But I only have one.
00:32:46.000 I only have one notable blazer.
00:32:48.000 I'm not going to wear some normal suit.
00:32:50.000 That'd be late.
00:32:51.000 You know, Blake, I missed a good Christmas present for you.
00:32:53.000 I should have got you a gift card to Macy's so you could.
00:32:56.000 No, no, no.
00:32:57.000 You can't have, you can't just buy a copy of the blazer.
00:33:00.000 That's not going to get you.
00:33:01.000 It doesn't work that way.
00:33:03.000 Don't get the same one.
00:33:04.000 I'm just, I'm, you know, I'm suggesting maybe branch out a little bit.
00:33:07.000 We're going to get your glow up going on here soon, Blake.
00:33:11.000 There's a clip here, though, I want to play.
00:33:13.000 And of course, I misplaced it.
00:33:15.000 134.
00:33:16.000 Tim Walz saying there's organized crime in Minnesota.
00:33:18.000 What did he do about it?
00:33:19.000 Nothing.
00:33:20.000 Organized crime?
00:33:22.000 What are you doing?
00:33:23.000 This is the Minnesota law, which mandates that anyone who knows a fraud and is a state employee must report that fraud.
00:33:32.000 It's Minnesota Statute 3.971, Subdivision 9.
00:33:36.000 Not only that, but Walls is also guilty of misconduct of a public employee.
00:33:42.000 All right, Blake, you're the contrarian.
00:33:45.000 We had Harmeet Dylan on yesterday.
00:33:47.000 Everybody is calling for Tim Waltz to either resign or they want an indictment.
00:33:51.000 This stuff takes time.
00:33:52.000 There's no doubt you got to build a case that is actually, will hold up in court.
00:33:57.000 What, as a contrarian, as a little bit of a, you know, pump the brakes on the legal side, what do you think the odds are that we get some actual accountability at the top levels of the Minnesota government?
00:34:09.000 Oh, low, probably.
00:34:10.000 They might try it, but I think the one trouble is, I'll be honest, is when people just bellow that they want someone arrested, sometimes, let's be real, our side sometimes goes off a little half-cocked.
00:34:24.000 I think the most important thing is actually getting the fraud itself, which is all these daycares, which is all these facilities.
00:34:30.000 If you were going to get someone at the top, I think the best shot would be Keith Ellison.
00:34:34.000 Keith Ellison is clearly this sinister figure.
00:34:38.000 He's very clearly a radical. 0.99
00:34:40.000 He is dishonest.
00:34:42.000 I mean, he did that whole posing with the Antifa handbook in 2020. 1.00
00:34:45.000 He's a lunatic. 0.99
00:34:46.000 I think, and also, I just don't think he's that smart overall. 0.97
00:34:50.000 I think he's probably your best shot if you were going to bring down a major person, but it's going to be tough because in the end, a lot of this comes down to a traditional norm we have, prosecutorial discretion.
00:35:02.000 They knew this was going on and they just chose not to stop it.
00:35:07.000 And the sad thing is there's not that much you can do if someone, if they're not directly benefiting from the crime, they just don't care that it's happening because they like the people committing it.
00:35:20.000 It's just like the police forces who let the rioter, you know, they abandoned a Minneapolis police precinct and let it get burned down.
00:35:28.000 They let rioters just terrorize people.
00:35:31.000 That stuff is morally abhorrent.
00:35:33.000 It's completely evil.
00:35:34.000 But it traditionally, at least, is not something we normally prosecute as a crime, perhaps because it's basically unthinkable.
00:35:43.000 And I guess I would just warn people, the best way to make them accountable for this is to make sure we have a good campaign for governor in Minnesota and try to unseat him.
00:35:54.000 And failing that, probably the best thing you can do if you're a Minnesota resident is get out.
00:35:59.000 I know that's a frustrating piece of advice, but if you look at the numbers, Minnesota is a state that it's absolutely bleeding anyone who's a taxpayer, anyone who's a functional member of society.
00:36:12.000 The left in Minnesota is going all in on we should import as many refugees as possible. 0.95
00:36:17.000 We should admit as many parasites as possible. 0.52
00:36:20.000 And we should wage war on anyone who's functional, who is law-abiding, who is a person you would want in your state. 0.96
00:36:27.000 And we're seeing the outcomes of that.
00:36:29.000 Yeah, I didn't realize they were having a net outflow of productive citizens.
00:36:33.000 One of the worst.
00:36:34.000 They're like New York or California in terms of driving out people.
00:36:37.000 No kidding.
00:36:38.000 And that's really sad.
00:36:39.000 And Minnesota's historically been a pretty functioning state, despite being a left-wing state.
00:36:43.000 Yes, they used to be one of the best.
00:36:45.000 We have to admit it.
00:36:46.000 And now they're not.
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