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00:01:40.000Very important topics that are unfolding here.
00:01:43.000Joining us now is Turning Point USA Advisor, dear friend, fellow Real America's voice host, Bishop Aubrey Shines, also author of Eight Questions About Race and host of American Shine.
00:03:36.000If we were to go, for instance, to John, to all the Christians that are viewing John out on an island, they're Patamas.
00:03:43.000He's the one who described the people that would be separated from God.
00:03:46.000I'm not saying this with Johnson, but one of the terms was being a coward.
00:03:52.000We're seeing a cowardly act by, I'm sure, a very integritist man in some regard.
00:03:58.000But for him to sell us out, for him not to fight, for him not to take up his spear and put on his shield and put on his boots and go into battle.
00:04:10.000But for God's sake, Speaker Johnson, fight.
00:04:13.000Because once you named the name of Christ, now you have a heavenly host of others that have given their soul, their lives for what they believe in.
00:04:23.000I'm not seeing that, Charlie, out of Speaker Johnson.
00:05:28.000There is something wonderfully poetic about the fact that despite the fact that even if convicted, he's not going to go to prison, the first person to actually criminally prosecute Donald Trump is a black Harvard grad, the very kind of person that his former staff, the people who worked for him, Stephen Miller, et cetera, want to never be at Harvard law school.
00:05:53.000And he came out and graduated and he's prosecuting you, Donald.
00:05:56.000And a black woman is doing that same exact thing in Georgia.
00:06:00.000And a black woman forced you to pay a $175 million fine that's now also in question because the people who put it up, that might not be legit.
00:06:09.000Donald Trump is being held to account by the very multicultural, multiracial democracy that he's trying to dismantle.
00:06:18.000And for me, there's something poetic and actually wonderful about that.
00:06:22.000It says something good about our country that we're still capable of having that happen.
00:06:39.000Hey, well, listen, let's talk about Joy Reed and her moronic behavior here.
00:06:44.000First of all, it's asinine to make color an issue.
00:06:48.000The very things that Dr. King and others made sure that we had a biblical worldview on, and that is not to judge a person by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.
00:06:59.000What she did not mention, Charlie, was that Braggs and Fulton County DA, Fanny, as well.
00:07:07.000They're also Marxists supported by George Soros.
00:07:11.000Why didn't she share with us that that whole ideology, by the way, something my grandfather fought World War II for, gave his life for to make sure that we would not become Marxists?
00:07:22.000These are the individuals that are bankrolled by Marxists.
00:08:16.000And until we come together and make sure that we are saying that she is a buffoon that is paid millions of dollars by the legacy media to keep race alive, she doesn't and should not warrant our response other than we denounce Joy Reed.
00:08:39.000And so this, where does this idea of DEI come from?
00:08:43.000And not just from the academy, but why she feels the need to introduce it into the criminal trials where no one is making this about race and she wants it to be about race.
00:08:55.000Is there some sort of hatred of Donald Trump or whites at the core of this?
00:09:11.000This is something that the Democratic Party has never had.
00:09:14.000Remember, the same party that did not go for the 13th, 14th Amendment that allowed blacks to even vote, this is the party that she still belongs to.
00:09:23.000This is the same party that gave you KKK laws.
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00:12:28.000Bishop, there is a new narrative about Christian nationalism.
00:12:32.000How would you respond if you are called a Christian nationalist?
00:12:37.000Oh my God, I would take it as probably, Charlie, one of the greatest compliments known.
00:12:42.000Again, my influence should just be that.
00:12:44.000I believe in the Judeo-Christian ethos that found this nation.
00:12:48.000So for me to some kind of way advocate that position simply because somebody doesn't like what I believe in is ridiculous.
00:12:55.000Those were the tenets that helped us in slavery.
00:12:58.000Those were the tenets that made us who we are.
00:13:01.000So my influence should be represented through representatives, senators, et cetera, and my vote for president to make sure that Christian views, after all, historically speaking, wherever Christianity thrives, a nation actually does very well.
00:13:18.000That's something we could see lived out throughout history.
00:13:21.000So to be called a Christian nationalist simply means I do not divorce my Christian principles while I'm in the workplace or in the political arena.
00:13:29.000So kudos to everyone out there that would call me that.
00:13:32.000If it's a negative, you probably need to do a little more research.
00:13:36.000It's a great thing to be called a Christian nationalist.
00:13:39.000So do you think that we should embrace the term as a movement?
00:13:43.000Because they're trying to use it as a smear and a slander against us.
00:13:47.000Well, the only reason they're trying to use it, Charlie, is because it's working.
00:13:52.000Because people don't want to see our sons and daughters chemically castrated.
00:14:06.000And that is, if you work, you should be able to keep what you work for.
00:14:09.000Those are biblical tenets that are just lived out in our politics.
00:14:14.000After all, that is how this nation was formed from founders that had a overall reaching aspect as related to their Christianity when they said that all men are created equal in the eyes of God.
00:14:31.000God is the one who endowed us with this.
00:14:34.000That was a Christian nationalist perspective.
00:14:36.000And if they're trying to get us away from it, then we should run quicker to it.
00:14:41.000It's something that all of us who believe in Christ, practice Christianity, we should continue to do.
00:14:47.000They are afraid of it because it doesn't work in their politics.
00:14:52.000It works for us as we take this country back.
00:14:55.000Donald Trump right now is, as I mentioned, in kind of court and house and home arrest.
00:14:59.000You said he's doing better with black voters.
00:15:34.000I have a myriad of reasons and data to prove it.
00:15:37.000So what have we seen with Joe Biden and this Marxist regime?
00:15:41.000Black Americans are no different than white Americans.
00:15:44.000And that is, we want to be able to educate our kids.
00:15:48.000We want to make sure that our kids are not being forced to have this deluge of wokeism.
00:15:56.000We don't believe in anything other than meritocracy.
00:15:59.000We believe that if I do a good job, I should be rewarded.
00:16:03.000We don't believe that we should be in unending wars.
00:16:06.000These are things that all Americans, whether you're black, white, or the color of Shrek, for God's sake, we want the same thing that others want.
00:16:15.000We want our Constitution to be lived out.
00:16:17.000We want to be able to have our voices heard everywhere we go.
00:16:21.000Donald Trump is registering there because people are seeing it and black and brown people realize we're not doing well in this nation with Joe Biden and the Obamaites controlling Joe Biden.
00:18:51.000Well, Charlie, this all began when Joe Biden went as vice president down to Guatemala and told everyone the border was open in late 2014.
00:19:02.000He said the border was open for all minors.
00:19:04.000In fact, I happened to be working down in Guatemala at that time and sent back the front page of the newspaper, which actually when Drudge was conservative, they put it on the front page of Drudge.
00:19:16.000Since that time, as we move forward, we noticed that there was a large influx, very coordinated, of migrants coming to the U.S.
00:19:27.000And back in 2019, I developed a few assets in the immigration services of Mexico.
00:19:35.000And I've kept those folks, I've stayed in touch with them through the years.
00:19:40.000And what they were telling me back when President Trump was here is that there were certain organizations and groups at the time in late 2019 that were being supported by members of Congress, people in the Senate were sending their staffers, NGOs were down there funding them, and a lot of religious or church organizations were as well.
00:20:04.000And we had several pictures sent back to us.
00:20:07.000And when I heard your show the other day, I called my people I know in the immigration service and asked them how everything was.
00:20:16.000And they told me that now, compared to even 2019, the entire process has been placed-not their words, but just the way they described it on steroids.
00:20:28.000They said the most powerful government organization in the country of Mexico is immigration services.
00:20:36.000And they have a very coordinated, well-funded process in coordination with our immigration services, their words, not mine.
00:20:48.000And these are coming from people that are extremely high up in the Mexican immigration services.
00:20:54.000They say that these migrants that come across from South America, Central America, however they come, they cross over to the Guatemalan-Mexican border and they go in to the state of Chiapas.
00:21:08.000And they specifically go to Capachula, which is a city in Chiapas.
00:21:13.000And that is the primary sorting area for these migrants after they cross the border.
00:21:21.000From there, based on their economic status or not only their ability to pay or how important they are, the folks that are deemed more valuable, have more money, are taken to Mexico City for further sorting.
00:21:38.000The ones that are of lower income status go to Veracruz, which is a city on the coast of Mexico.
00:21:45.000So you go from Capachula to either Mexico City or Veracruz.
00:21:51.000And then it gets really interesting because from there, they are sorted into groups and placed on airplanes or other modes of transportation and sent to one of the many border towns in Mexico to be crossed.
00:22:08.000But the way that they are divided up and sent, the way it was described to me, is in direct coordination with our U.S. immigration services so that they don't send people that overload one place or another, but it's a very coordinated movement from Mexico into the U.S. working with our immigration services.
00:22:31.000In fact, one of the people I talked to said that they were, I don't want to give up the source, but they saw a certain pastor in Reynosa, Mexico by the name of Hector Silva.
00:22:43.000And I've known about this pastor for years.
00:22:46.000And he runs an organization on the border.
00:22:53.000And it's supported by churches here in the U.S. and around the world.
00:23:00.000I believe it's a Presbyterian or a non-denominational organization.
00:23:04.000And what they do is that they, this is one of the pastors that was riding from Mexico City to Reynosa, Mexico, which is right across the border from McAllen.
00:23:17.000And he runs this large non-government organization or faith-based organization in Reynosa and helps organize the migrants and cross them.
00:23:29.000And the person that saw them ride on the plane, they stopped and paused for a moment.
00:23:34.000And then they said, when they get to these border towns, there are, she said, a buffet, her words, of lawyers that provide services to the migrants and give them the instructions of how to cross and what to do.
00:23:53.000And when I drilled down on that, I thought they would be Mexican lawyers.
00:23:58.000She said, oh, no, they are from Senator Bob's office, is what everyone says.
00:24:02.000And she was referring, I asked her, Bob Menendez.
00:24:35.000If they're just moving migrants from these two main cities to the border, how do they know how many migrants to put at each crossing to effectively move them at the most rapid pace possible?
00:24:50.000How do they know how many to send to one area without them backing up too much?
00:24:54.000How do they know how there'll be enough people to process there?
00:24:58.000And I ask all these questions, and this person was solid in their answer, looked me straight, and said, they're doing it because they're working with your government, your immigration services.
00:25:10.000So, what they're doing by report, and this is a firsthand report, is they are working in conjunction with our immigration services to allow for the most effective and efficient crossing into the United States.
00:25:26.000And the lawyers are telling them what to do.
00:25:30.000And they all are telling them, she said, before when President Trump was there, she said they would tell them that they were going to be put in a refrigerated area, like a prison, and to remember that the Democrats got them across the border and that they would be on the other side to help them.
00:25:48.000So I want to just play on 104, we have the image up here.
00:25:51.000This is apparently a staffer for Bob Menendez.
00:27:01.000They're dumping their country cards because they want to get a new ID in the U.S. to try to get them into the voting matrix.
00:27:10.000Now they're telling them, remember, Joe Biden is the reason that you're able to cross this border.
00:27:15.000They don't say the Democrats anymore because Trump's not in.
00:27:18.000They say Joe Biden is the reason that you're able to cross.
00:27:22.000And so you believe that part of the strategy here is mass voter registration to then impact the election coming in November.
00:27:30.000I don't see how you can come to any other conclusion because why would people readily give up their identification and just drop it?
00:27:39.000Especially when we're allowing people to come into this country, our immigrations, our borders are wide open.
00:27:46.000So it doesn't matter whether they have an ID or not.
00:27:49.000The only reason you would dump an ID is if you wanted to get another ID or change your name or a social security number.
00:27:58.000I think if enough reporters get into this and start pulling the threads, Cinda De Vita, Pastor Hector Silva, you could just start there and you could work your way back.
00:28:10.000If someone would go to Chiapas, the state in Mexico, Tampachilo, Tapachula, where this all begins, I think people would be shocked.
00:28:20.000And I can tell you that having worked in Central and South America, when President Trump was in office, this was very difficult for them because Mexico finally started pushing back at the border before they could get into the southern state of Mexico, which is Chiapas.
00:28:35.000So now with it wide open, they're not only coming through, but I think the take-home message is they're coordinated with our government for maximum efficiency at the checkpoints.
00:28:48.000In fact, as a side note, they said the only checkpoint they're really not hitting is Laredo because they're still running drugs through there and the cartels aren't working through there.
00:28:57.000The picture you're painting, Keith, and I just have to take a break here, is that the U.S. government is participating in act of treason against the citizenry with good PR.
00:29:15.000And by the way, I will just build up Keith's credentials.
00:29:19.000Keith has not been wrong once in the stuff he said.
00:29:23.000I'll give you two examples that I could share on air.
00:29:25.000Number one, Keith called me as the kind of, he said, hey, there's this pneumonia in China and this thing's going to just, this thing's going to change the 2020 election.
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00:30:49.000So, Keith, what are the Mexican immigration services doing about this?
00:30:53.000What's in it for them to be transporting these migrants through their country to designated drop points?
00:30:59.000Charlie, the person I spoke to said that the Mexican immigration services are now the most powerful branch or department inside the Mexican government.
00:31:12.000If you just look at the GAO report, the government accounting office report that just came out, I believe it was March 26th, it showed that The government cannot account for in the fiscal year 2023, $236 billion.
00:31:50.000You have $236 billion that's not even accounted for.
00:31:56.000And you have the Mexican Immigration Service that is grown and is powerful.
00:32:02.000So I would say follow the money because they're not just doing it because they want to.
00:32:08.000They're not flying a pastor from Rayanosa to Mexico City and from Mexico City back to his, quote, shelter where they're organizing crossings.
00:32:20.000This is a well-run, well-funded organization.
00:32:23.000And if you go to, I believe it's Sina De Vita, you can start seeing the different churches in the U.S. that are supporting these organizations on the other side of Mexico.
00:32:41.000And they wrap it up and they wrap it around, I guess you could say, religion, but it's anything but because the Bible never talked about having open borders.
00:32:55.000And I believe it's also being funded from our government.
00:32:57.000So let me ask you now, Keith, now till November.
00:33:01.000You don't have to get into specifics unless you feel is able to do so.
00:33:05.000What threats on the horizon should we be looking at?
00:33:08.000A black swan event that could change the 2024 election landscape?
00:33:12.000Charlie, my biggest concern for a black swan event, this is just my thoughts talking to a lot of guys in our community who I would consider serious people that love this nation, is that you will see an outburst in a lot of cities of some type of coordinated violent activity.
00:33:33.000It may be or it may be alleged to be tied to a nation state, but I think what you're going to see is mass civil unrest in some larger cities.
00:33:45.000And then that will be the fig leaf that the president has the authority to step in and postpone or cancel the election if he deems it a national security threat.
00:33:57.000And I was talking with a group of guys that I worked with the other day, and we were all thinking, how could he deem, you know, just disruptions in the cities a national security threat?
00:34:07.000And one guy said, well, they're already saying that President Trump running for office is a national security threat.
00:34:13.000So I don't put anything past the folks that are currently in this administration and running the government.
00:34:23.000I think that they'll try to do another quote unquote pandemic, but I don't think the American populace would fall for that.
00:34:30.000So I think personally that you're going to see, based on what we see crossing the border, the numbers and the unaccountable people that have crossed, I think you could have a well-coordinated event.
00:34:42.000Something similar like you saw in Russia about less than a month ago, where you had four guys with AKs just mow down a bunch of civilians and cause a big problem.
00:34:53.000And those guys, by the way, were from Afghanistan.
00:34:56.000And we brought a lot of people from Afghanistan back over here.
00:35:03.000I also think they're trying to push through this Ukraine money because I think that Kiev might fall.
00:35:08.000And I think that if that happens, Joe Biden's going to look terrible and Donald Trump will look a lot better.
00:35:14.000I mean, the kind of a whole region in just complete chaos.
00:35:19.000So they're trying to pump as much money as they can to prop up the failed nation state of Ukraine instead of brokering peace, which actually would have given Ukraine more territory and land.