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00:01:12.000Making global headlines at this hour, we have learned this evening that Mikhail Gorbachev has died, the last leader of the Soviet Union who helped end the Cold War and the threat of nuclear war.
00:01:22.000They buried the Hunter Biden story before the election because they were like, we can't risk having the election thrown to Trump.
00:03:13.000As we just played a couple clips there as we frame our conversation today.
00:03:17.000As always, you can email us your thoughts, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:03:20.000There is some breaking news that happened last evening of the Department of Justice that just released a filing of a picture of documents from our Lago seemingly just kind of spread all across the floor.
00:03:33.000It is very clear that our prediction on Monday is becoming true.
00:03:37.000This is the Department of Justice sending a clear and obvious and intentional message towards Donald Trump and his allies and towards you that the fourth branch of government is not going to take it anymore.
00:03:50.000That the fourth branch of government, the unelected, unknown, unchecked power apparatus, is going for it.
00:05:13.000I wish that it was kind of like the Mueller investigation.
00:05:16.000I wish it was like all these other ones.
00:05:18.000Instead, I think they're going to create a crime out of thin air because they are so afraid of what 2024 is going to hold and what the midterms will hold.
00:05:29.000We're going to get into this latest court filing from the Department of Justice, which is nothing more than a flagrant, a smug political move against Donald Trump.
00:05:38.000But I want to start with a different piece of news.
00:05:41.000I actually want to honor one of the great men that lived in the 20th century, and I actually think it can be rather instructive of exactly what is in front of us right now and what we need to help solve our problems here domestically.
00:06:10.000In high school, never heard of the Soviet Union.
00:06:12.000They don't learn that stuff in school anymore.
00:06:15.000Now, Gorbachev was a very special leader.
00:06:19.000Gorbachev, by all estimates, was ethical and full of integrity in a country that was basically run by thugs and criminals and was nothing more than a massive cartel enterprise.
00:06:33.000Now, Gorbachev was met with a fair amount of anti-Soviet Union protests, and he was one of the first people not to crack down on the anti-communist, anti-totalitarian protest with force.
00:06:51.000Now, Gorbachev is not totally beloved in Eastern Europe.
00:06:56.000In fact, Vladimir Putin has said many times that one of the greatest mistakes that Russia ever made was the dissolution of the Soviet Union, brokered by Gorbachev.
00:07:08.000And yes, Gorbachev was outmaneuvered and out-strategized by Reagan, but he was always inclined towards peace.
00:07:16.000Gorbachev was probably too good of a person to run the Soviet Union.
00:07:22.000And he did bring a lot, he brought a movement of sovereignty in Estonia and Lithuania and Latvia, in the Balkan Peninsula.
00:07:31.000The Soviet Union was a far-reaching, totalitarian, communist blanket over the eastern part of Europe.
00:07:39.000And a lot of that has broken up, and Russia is doing their best job to try to recreate that, albeit very difficult and clumsily, and at a very, very high cost.
00:07:49.000But Gorbachev was a realist, but Gorbachev wanted peace.
00:07:54.000And if I look right now at our struggle against the American left, if I look at the totalitarians that run the administrative state in our own country, I say, boy, do we need a Gorbachev of the Democrat Party?
00:08:06.000We need someone that wants peace, that doesn't want to have this endless conflict that calls us semi-fascists.
00:08:13.000You see, Gorbachev was not loved by his base.
00:08:16.000Gorbachev got done what needed to get done.
00:08:21.000He restored private property rights, consent to the government.
00:08:23.000And of course, the gangsters took over not too long after.
00:08:26.000But there's no doubt that the standard and quality of life in many parts of Eastern Europe have improved dramatically thanks to the moves of Mikhail Gorbachev, one of the most important people to live in the 20th century, worked well with Reagan, understood the necessity of markets and of decentralized power.
00:08:45.000But if I look at our struggle right now against what could be called the administrative state, the fourth branch of government, the shadow government, the deep state, I ask ourselves, we have to ask ourselves, where's the Gorbachev of the left?
00:08:58.000Someone that recognizes that this endless struggle between the two incumbent factions is not going to end well.
00:09:07.000Instead, Joe Biden goes out and taunts conservatives, saying that if you really are going to want to fight your government, you're going to need F-15s.
00:09:15.000We never say we want to fight our government.
00:09:17.000We said that, God forbid, we're ever going to have to push back against a usurptatious, tyrannical government, of which the 20th century had plenty of examples of.
00:09:26.000Then that is what the Second Amendment is designed for.
00:09:48.000We want to live in an America where we are not at each other's throats all the time.
00:09:54.000That is the heart of your modern conservative.
00:09:57.000That is the heart of your mega conservative.
00:09:59.000You talk to a mega conservative, they would love to go back to the country of the 1980s and 1990s, where we didn't talk about politics all the time.
00:10:07.000But if you even say that, you are called a racist and a fascist by your government, by the left-wing regime.
00:10:14.000You see, because leftists find their identity, they find their meaning in their activist causes.
00:10:23.000We as conservatives only use politics as an unfortunate necessity as a means to the end to protect our meaning.
00:10:34.000Family, business, maybe a local small business, church, your relationship with the divine is far more important than politics.
00:10:44.000Gorbachev in the 1980s and 90s showed us a way that peace is possible.
00:10:53.000And for many young people, they don't teach about the Soviet Union in school at all because the Soviet Union shows exactly where the modern left wants to take us.
00:11:04.000You could read Darkness at Noon by Arthur Kessler.
00:11:07.000Whether it be the secret police, the KGB, gulags, forced confiscation of property, the Kulaks, the lessons from the Russian Revolution from Lenin to Trotsky, to the assassination of General Tukhachevsky, to Joseph Stalin.
00:11:23.000Russian and Soviet history is instructive to exactly what they're trying to do here.
00:11:31.000Here's Joe Biden joking about conservatives who want to have firearms to potentially protect themselves against tyranny.
00:11:37.000This is the way that Joseph Stalin would talk.
00:11:58.000He's basically saying, okay, if you want to be able to have firearms to protect yourself against potential tyranny, of which happened in the National Socialist Worker Party in Germany, of which happened in Vietnam, which happened in Cambodia, which happened in communist China, which happened in Korea, death camps in every hemisphere, everywhere, of the government terrorizing their citizens.
00:12:23.000Joe Biden is taunting you and baiting you.
00:12:26.000And you say, boy, where is the Gorbachev of the American left?
00:12:30.000Where is someone that's trying to actually bring down the temperatures?
00:12:33.000And that was the brilliance of Gorbachev.
00:12:53.000And Joe Biden thinks that, I mean, Joe Biden's been on this PR campaign recently, and he has just been going after conservatives and Republicans, taunting, baiting, trying to poke you in the eye.
00:13:06.000And I've said many times that absent a Gorbachev on the left, the only way that we defeat the left is we defeat the left.
00:13:16.000They're only stopped when they will only stop when they're stopped.
00:13:19.000And this is the truth that conservatives do not want.
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00:17:05.000And they said, look, the documents that were at Mar-a-Lago were likely concealed and removed from President Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate in violation of a grand jury subpoena.
00:17:18.000In the most detailed filing to date, the Justice Department lawyers late Tuesday night pushed back on claims from the former president's team that they conducted a diligent search.
00:17:28.000The filing in a South Florida court was in response to Mr. Trump's lawsuit asking a federal judge to appoint a special master.
00:17:35.000But then they put this picture up of these documents.
00:17:40.000Documents all over the floor, which if they're super confidential documents, why do you put them all over the floor?
00:17:46.000With the Time magazine cover intentionally still put in there that says knock knock, not so subtle.
00:17:55.000And so look, I just want to reemphasize this.
00:17:57.000So as we put, as the FBI puts this filing in the court documents, they go out of their way.
00:18:07.000They make an intentional effort to try to have a Time magazine cover that says knock knock.
00:18:17.000This is the Bureau sending a clear and unmistakable message to you, to Trump supporters, to Donald Trump, to Donald Trump's orbit, that the administrative state is sovereign.
00:18:31.000It's not enough that they're going to indict Donald Trump.
00:18:34.000They want to send a clear message that you better back down.
00:18:37.000I mean, this seems like a political campaign, not law enforcement.
00:18:42.000This seems like a direct and clear infiltration and injection into the American constitutional process.
00:18:53.000I'm going to read this from Mike Davis.
00:18:56.000All former presidents get a federally funded office, office of the former president, with staff and security clearances and Secret Service protection and secure facilities, SCIFs.
00:19:08.000Even if Trump had classified records, they were protected.
00:19:11.000All presidents take records when they leave.
00:19:29.000The Biden DOJ could have filed a civil lawsuit and they could have sought a subpoena.
00:19:34.000But an unprecedented home raid, Trump had these records for 18 months.
00:19:41.000The question is, why was it necessary to raid the home to try to sweep up things that otherwise they would not have been able to get through a subpoena?
00:19:53.000We're hopefully going to find this out.
00:19:56.000And I hope that this judge has some form of a moral fiber in her being to say, hold on a second, this is just, this is grotesque.
00:20:06.000Saying that you are not able to use the power of the federal Bureau of Investigation to go raid, to go collect whatever documents you want despite compliance, and then to infer that Donald Trump is a national security threat.
00:20:20.000Biden's DNI, Department of the Head of Department of National Intelligence, will perform a political damage assessment, even though Trump's records were declassified, personal copies and secured by Secret Service.
00:20:32.000Obama's DNI did not perform one, a single one of these, for Hillary's illegal home server of our most classified secrets hacked by our enemies.
00:20:44.000But this is a clear campaign by the Bureau, according to this latest filing, that they're coming after you.
00:20:54.000There is no mistake that the Bureau and the Department of Justice, they're going to go for it.
00:20:58.000And the political ramifications of this, they're quite significant.
00:21:03.000To be able to interfere with somebody's political campaign on a paperwork dispute, otherwise known as it's an overdue library book.
00:21:11.000We're not going to let you run for president because of an overdue library book, and you're a former president.
00:21:16.000That's how much they fear our movement.
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00:22:24.000With this right now, I want to welcome to the program someone who knows the Bureau quite well, John Guandolo.
00:22:31.000He has a career in the FBI as a special agent from 1996 to 2008 and was also in DOD from 08 to 2012.
00:23:11.000Yes, I think it's actually worse than most Americans understand, both the Department of Justice, the FBI, and quite frankly, the broader federal government.
00:23:19.000You've addressed a number of these points on this show and previous shows.
00:23:28.000I honestly believe you got to start there.
00:23:30.000One of the things I find fascinating as I go around the country and speak to leaders and communities and as we train communities at my organization, understanding the threat, I find that very few people know that James Comey publicly admitted he was a communist right when he was leaving the office as the U.S. Attorney of the Southern District of New York to become the Deputy Attorney General.
00:23:57.000And this is back in 2003 in a New York magazine article.
00:24:02.000And then he gets elevated to the deputy attorney general and then elevated to become the director of the FBI.
00:24:10.000And I think the takeaway for your listeners and viewers is that if a guy who openly admits he was a communist can get elevated to those levels inside our federal government almost 20 years ago, imagine how bad the communist movement and the greater cabal is inside our federal government today.
00:24:34.000So, yes, it is much worse inside the FBI than I think most people believe it is.
00:24:41.000And so they raided the president's home, President Trump's home, and now there's this potential special master that could oversee these documents and the handling of them.
00:24:52.000What's your thoughts on the filing last evening?
00:24:54.000It seems as if the FBI is taunting President Trump and his allies and those in his orbit.
00:25:06.000Well, I think, again, when we take the totality of what the Bureau has done, especially in the last six or so years, you have the, again, back to Mr. Comey, but I'll walk it forward to today.
00:25:20.000You had a situation where the FBI director, the deputy director, and assistant director for counterintelligence, Peter Strzok, lied openly to file a FISA application to the FISA court in order to electronically surveil candidate and then President Donald Trump, his family, and his staff.
00:25:48.000And of all the things that came out just from that, we saw internal FBI documents where it's highly, and it's not just, I wouldn't just call it politicized.
00:26:01.000These are enemies of the Republic who are not just about bringing down Donald Trump.
00:26:06.000These are people that seem to, based on the evidence on the table, despise our system, the Constitutional Republic, the free market system, and our form of government, which, you know, and I want to remind people, I think this is important.
00:26:23.000Donald Trump didn't birth the MA movement.
00:26:28.000And this movement, while he is a major player, is about citizens who are patriots and like the work that you're doing, want to see a restoration of the Republic and liberty.
00:26:43.000So inside the FBI, I still have good friends inside the FBI, and it is a disaster on the inside, both from a leadership perspective and the friction between agents who are like James Comey and Andrew McCabe and Peter Strzzok and others, and the agents that joined for the idealism of it to serve the country, to abide by the oath, and protect and defend.
00:27:11.000How many good agents are left exactly?
00:27:16.000I mean, or is it 95% are just compliant?
00:27:18.000I mean, is there what percentage in the Bureau actually believes in the country and the Constitution versus those are just radical anti-Americans?
00:27:30.000And I would begin the answer with this, is I would almost say, what's the difference between the communist movement and real card-carrying communists in the United States and people who identify as patriots who are more concerned about losing their jobs than they are about defending their country and their community?
00:27:51.000Whether you're a card-carrying member of the Communist Party and you're advancing that movement or you call yourself a patriot, but you're not willing to risk anything to defend the Republic, you're kind of all in the same boat.
00:28:03.000So the number of agents inside the Bureau actually willing to challenge leadership to defend what they said they came in to defend, it's a very small number.
00:28:17.000So my first part of the answer is I don't think it matters how many patriots are in if they're all being silent.
00:28:22.000But that said, I do not agree with the 95% number.
00:28:27.000I don't know that I'd put a number on it, but there seem to be a pretty big chunk.
00:28:31.000Just like in the United States, there seems to be at least 30% of the citizens, at least citizens that are active, that are openly calling for communism and socialism and are working towards that.
00:28:45.000We have the key components of our federal government and the bureaucracy itself at the federal level that is literally controlled by the adversaries of liberty.
00:28:56.000So I don't know that the percentage is as important as the percentage of people that are actually doing something.
00:29:02.000And that's very small inside the DOD, inside the FBI, DOJ.
00:29:25.000Well, so anytime we take an action that advances one of the communist goals, and I know the 45 communist goals that we know that were read into the official congressional record back in 1963, one of those, Objective 35, is to dismantle the FBI.
00:29:49.000So anytime people start advocating for something that's a goal on the communist list, I would hesitate.
00:29:55.000But the FBI has got to be seriously purged.
00:29:57.000The leadership is non-functional, especially in the counterterrorism and counterintelligence divisions in the leadership.
00:30:06.000You know, during the transition in 2016, I was asked to write a short point paper for the transition team for Mr. Trump.
00:30:15.000And the three things I commented on is how the FBI hires, how they train, and how they promote.
00:30:20.000And those three things in the Bureau are broken.
00:30:23.000So if it is revamped, it has to be seriously purged and a complete overhaul.
00:30:29.000And I think it's going to be very difficult based on the culture.
00:30:33.000And it's going to require bold leadership.
00:30:36.000And I don't see that anywhere around the DOJ or the FBI, but it's going to require some serious effort.
00:30:43.000I'm a little hesitant to say completely shut it down and defund it because there are still great Americans doing great work.
00:30:51.000The last part of that answer goes to the work that my company understands the threat does, which is this is a war to bring down the Republic, and the war is only going to be won at the local level, at the county level.
00:31:04.000And what we do is we train communities at the leadership level and at the citizen level to identify the hostile individuals and organizations, to flush them out, and to reestablish a Republican form of government.
00:34:02.000Create the impression, overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.
00:34:10.000And at the end, they say all of these would mark a complete subversion of the American Constitution and an end to representative sovereign government as we know it, which is our goal and the whole idea.
00:34:25.000Alina, let me ask you: so there is this request for a special master, and it just seems like the DOJ is trying to whisper about obstruction of justice and mishandling of documents.
00:34:34.000But isn't it true that the president can declassify any document of his choosing while he's still president of the United States?
00:34:44.000Actually, in the Department of Justice's papers that they filed at midnight last night, you can see on page two that they can see that this is part of the Presidential Records Act, which gives presidents, all presidents, the right to declassify documents, label them, some as personal, some declassified, which go to the archives, which go to the presidential library.
00:35:05.000And they say themselves in these papers that they filed that this is under the Presidential Records Act.
00:35:11.000So what they did was to try and criminalize Donald Trump, as they always do.
00:35:16.000They found these three mundane statutes, espionage and the two others, obstruction, and they're trying to claim that there was some sort of criminal activity, but their papers say it's under the Presidential Records Act.
00:35:29.000So your admission is the power that we've all been saying he does have.
00:35:34.000So you can take a picture of top secret documents, Charlie, and show the world a label.
00:35:40.000But if they're declassified as he has the right to do, then he has the right to have them.
00:35:45.000And he was working together with NARA, as we know.
00:35:49.000And that back and forth could have been done at a table as they had been doing for months prior.
00:35:55.000This is a clerical dispute over a potential overdue library book that they are now raiding a president's home over.
00:36:02.000So let me ask you, Alina, with where this stands right now, where is the president's head at as far as countersuit and also a potential or looming indictment from the Department of Justice?
00:36:14.000Is it the belief that the DOJ is really going to go for this?
00:36:18.000I mean, it seems as if nothing is going to stop them right now.
00:36:21.000What is the legal strategy as it seems you're going up against a hyper-aggressive Department of Justice?
00:36:27.000Well, I think we're always against a hyper-aggressive anything.
00:36:31.000If you're Donald Trump's attorneys, you're used to this hyper-aggressive witch hunt in his words, right?
00:36:38.000So for us, here's the reality of the situation.
00:36:41.000There's a great team in place that is handling this.
00:36:45.000And I'm lucky to work with wonderful people, but they have a good grasp on what's going on.
00:37:00.000I'm really happy that we have a judge that is engaged, that is asking to have a hearing and will ask questions.
00:37:06.000I'm frankly pleased with their papers that they filed because I think they made their own bed.
00:37:12.000So at this point, I hope we get a special master.
00:37:16.000I know that the papers have already been rifled through, but I would like to see what they've taken because we don't even know what they've taken.
00:37:23.000We do know there was privileged documents there.
00:37:30.000And then, of course, Charlie, we're going to look at the Fourth Amendment violations.
00:37:35.000Anybody, not a president, but more so president, has a right to protect their home.
00:37:41.000The Presidential Records Act gives him different privileges than a normal citizen, which he has, but no one is allowed to have a violation of their Fourth Amendment privileges.
00:37:59.000We're still understanding that it's just documents.
00:38:01.000So I think there will be definitely some counteractions and filings by our team once we go through the procedural ramifications that we have to do first.