The Charlie Kirk Show - Does a Government Shutdown Help Trump? Or Hurt?

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00:02:10.000 Our next guest is a great friend.

00:02:12.000 I texted him, Merry Christmas yesterday.

00:02:15.000 He was a little confused, but then he knew what I meant.

00:02:17.000 Citizen Kane, Mr. Kane, happy second day of Christmas, the greatest day of the year.

00:02:23.000 Yeah, you should tell people that as soon as you sent me that text, I sent back, was Mike Woodson fired by Indiana University?

00:02:32.000 So just so everyone knows, Kane and I share a passion for college sports, and it is without a doubt the four greatest days of college sport fandom of being March Madness.

00:02:43.000 And Kane, you have some strong opinions and connections with all that, but just riff on that, Kane.

00:02:52.000 March Madness is still one of the great American traditions that I hope doesn't get ruined by the left.

00:02:57.000 Yeah, they're trying.

00:02:58.000 You know, the NCAA, it's interesting to see the NCAA lose power with NIL in the last couple of years. 0.85

00:03:05.000 And the NCAA is incredibly woke.

00:03:08.000 And so your last statement there about potentially ruining the tournament, it is.

00:03:12.000 You know, for people who complain, I'm going to just say quickly, you need to understand the America First movement is filled with alpha males and females.

00:03:21.000 And one of the things that a lot of us did growing up was play hoops and play sports.

00:03:26.000 And so there's reasons that we still pay attention.

00:03:29.000 So yeah, these last couple days, you know, Bloomington, I'll give people a little bit of background.

00:03:36.000 You know, IU didn't make the tournament this year.

00:03:38.000 They won five in a row heading in and they got blown out by the by the Japanese kamikaze point guard from Nebraska.

00:03:47.000 From Nebraska, 5'11 shooting guard is probably a better description of them.

00:03:52.000 And actually, Nebraska plays later today, but we got blown out by 30.

00:03:56.000 Mike Woodson got his second technical of the game with eight minutes to go, and then he walked off the floor like a crippled old man with everyone watching him. 0.99

00:04:05.000 So there's some unrest and anger in Bloomington about Mike Woodson.

00:04:11.000 But these games have been great.

00:04:14.000 And, you know, I missed a whole bunch of people.

00:04:16.000 My favorite yesterday, and this is a perfect reason for you to go to charlieforhillsdale.com.

00:04:23.000 That is charlieforhillsdale.com.

00:04:26.000 So Kane and I were texting during the Oakland, Kentucky game yesterday.

00:04:30.000 And this senior transfer to Oakland, who played for Hillsdale College for three seasons, hit 10 three-pointers yesterday and scored 32 points.

00:04:42.000 Jack Belke or something, if I'm not mistaken.

00:04:45.000 Pretty remarkable.

00:04:46.000 So let's get into the news here, Kane.

00:04:48.000 So I'm looking at the stack, citizenfreepress.com.

00:04:51.000 Love how you're updating it.

00:04:53.000 So I want to go to this one and this story here, which is about the House Republicans.

00:04:58.000 So do you think it's wise, Kane?

00:05:00.000 I want you to think about what the CFP Nation is saying and what your gut says.

00:05:06.000 Is it wise to vacate the chair, even though we are being betrayed?

00:05:11.000 Your thoughts, Citizen Kane?

00:05:13.000 Well, bottom line, my final answer is probably not, Charlie.

00:05:17.000 And I mean, I can go either way, but look at what we got, right?

00:05:22.000 We went through turmoil through several months after getting rid of Kevin McCarthy.

00:05:27.000 And the Mike Johnson speakership is doing the same thing with these spending bills, with these stopgap spending bills.

00:05:34.000 I wouldn't be again, you know, I don't have huge feelings either way.

00:05:38.000 If they want to get rid of Johnson, that's okay with me.

00:05:41.000 But I don't think that in an election year, they're going to be able to choose any speaker who's going to be willing to shut down the government.

00:05:48.000 They're too afraid of losing the media battle when you don't have control of the media and they're going to blame Republicans.

00:05:55.000 So I feel like it's, you know, I understand Bannon's push.

00:05:58.000 And I, and look, this debt is out of control, right?

00:06:02.000 We're looking at 35 trillion for a national debt just around the corner.

00:06:07.000 And I've been putting up the national debt clock numbers showing that it's going to be 12 trillion higher in four years, that we'll be looking at 46 or 47 trillion.

00:06:19.000 So we have to wake up and get a hold of spending.

00:06:22.000 There's no doubt about it.

00:06:24.000 That's what, you know, that's what our side is upset about. 0.98

00:06:26.000 And there's a lot of junk in this bill. 0.97

00:06:29.000 There's no doubt about it. 0.54

00:06:30.000 But as for vacating, as for vacating him, I'm not sure who you get to replace him that would have the stones to shut down the government.

00:06:41.000 What is your thought on that?

00:06:42.000 Yeah, I mean, I'm of the opinion that right now, we actually, our trend is our friend.

00:06:47.000 Do we want to give the narrative in this election year the you know the idea that Republicans can't govern?

00:06:54.000 I don't know if that helps Trump.

00:06:56.000 That's my mission critical right now, which is they're going to throw a lot at Trump.

00:06:59.000 They're running ads.

00:07:00.000 Does it help Trump to have more bedlam in the House?

00:07:02.000 At the same time, I'll tell you, Kane, I feel super betrayed.

00:07:06.000 But, you know, so there has to be a price and a consequence for these actions.

00:07:10.000 On the other side, we have a one-seat majority.

00:07:13.000 So as a one-seat majority, the Unit Party has basically taken over DC.

00:07:16.000 We kicked out Santos, whose voting record was great.

00:07:18.000 Ken Buck has gone into the sunset.

00:07:20.000 We basically do not have a majority.

00:07:24.000 We do not have a majority.

00:07:26.000 We have like a splinter majority, but if you count the moderates, it's effectively the Unit Party has taken over, you know, the entire imperial capital.

00:07:34.000 And finally, I just, I'd hate to try to do something too dramatic that stops Donald Trump's incredible momentum right now.

00:07:41.000 That's where I'm at in the sense of because Donald Trump is stronger than ever, despite everything they're throwing at him, despite all the asymmetric warfare.

00:07:49.000 Why would we voluntarily go into something that might jeopardize that?

00:07:52.000 Your thoughts, Kane?

00:07:54.000 Yeah, I think that's the right theme there.

00:07:55.000 And you mentioned Ken Buck, and let's not forget the final line where he said the Republicans are not so upset about my resignation, but they're worried about the next two or three to resign.

00:08:05.000 Meaning there's a hint out there, there's a threat out there that some Republicans who are upset about what happened to McCarthy could take revenge and essentially resign.

00:08:16.000 And that would flip before we even get to November.

00:08:19.000 That would flip the House back to Democrat control if two more Republicans. 0.96

00:08:23.000 you know, drop out and quit early.

00:08:25.000 And that is a threat that Ken Buck has put out there.

00:08:27.000 And what you're saying about Trump and the momentum and how this sort of, you know, you saw the crowd of reporters around Marjorie, right, on the Capitol steps an hour and a half ago.

00:08:38.000 They were, I mean, the left is begging for this, right?

00:08:40.000 They are begging for us to vacate Speaker Johnson.

00:08:44.000 I know they're salivating.

00:08:45.000 And so should we give them what they're begging for?

00:08:48.000 That's, that's where I checked myself.

00:08:50.000 Especially if there's no, if there's no, you know, what do we get for that, right?

00:08:54.000 What do we get by removing by removing Mike Johnson?

00:08:58.000 We get another protracted battle where we sort of look like a party who can't govern while they search to find another leader who will probably come into power and go with the same plan of not shutting down the government before November.

00:09:12.000 So I really don't think it makes a lot of sense.

00:09:14.000 And I think the vote probably wouldn't pass.

00:09:17.000 But, you know, perhaps Marjorie is making her constituency and the rest of us happy, at least by showing Johnson that we're, you know, that we're not happy about the spending.

00:09:26.000 It isn't, you know, the MAGA base doesn't really care about the details.

00:09:30.000 What they want to stop is the crazy deficit spending. 0.93

00:09:34.000 The ridiculous. 0.83

00:09:36.000 Yeah. 0.94

00:09:36.000 I mean, that's really, really what it's about. 0.94

00:09:38.000 And no one really talks about it.

00:09:41.000 We get press conferences about, you know, about the bill, but we don't get any press conferences about what are the actual ways we could cut 500 billion out of a budget or a trillion out of a budget.

00:09:51.000 So, you know, we'll see.

00:09:54.000 But look, the House goes in recess for two weeks.

00:09:58.000 So any motion to vacate, yeah, any motion to vacate couldn't be voted on until they get back from recess.

00:10:04.000 So I don't, you know, there will be a lot of flurry today or fury today, but we won't see a vote for a couple of weeks.

00:10:10.000 The other argument, Kane, is that if it wasn't for Trump, we would have a major base problem.

00:10:15.000 I think Trump will heal some of those, but there has to be a price and a consequence for this.

00:10:21.000 However, is this the time to administer that sort of price or consequence?

00:10:25.000 They feel as if they can act with impunity.

00:10:28.000 And the arrogance and the damage that this conference has done to the country is remarkable.

00:10:35.000 And I get the one seat majority thing.

00:10:38.000 And so I'm probably of the opinion that under normal circumstances, this kind of betrayal should result in a motion to vacate.

00:10:46.000 But we don't have the troops.

00:10:47.000 We don't have the numbers.

00:10:49.000 And right now, the trend is our friend.

00:10:51.000 We are trending towards a favorable outcome in November, all things being equal, absent surprises. 0.52

00:10:59.000 Why introduce a factor that can make us look like we're a bunch of clowns on DC?

00:11:03.000 You know, and you made me think of something else.

00:11:05.000 With that one vote or two vote majority that we have, we might even lose the speakership.

00:11:10.000 Imagine they vacate Johnson, they bring in someone else.

00:11:14.000 And if we don't get a unanimous vote from Republicans, Democrats can choose the next speaker because we're so close in votes to them.

00:11:24.000 So it's a, you know, it's a dangerous road.

00:11:26.000 I don't think now, I don't think now is the time, but I understand the anger.

00:11:29.000 And some people say, but so what if the Democrats elect a speaker?

00:11:33.000 Well, we have, we do have oversight and we have subpoena power and stuff.

00:11:36.000 So we don't want to forsake that.

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00:12:43.000 All right, Kane, I'm going to ask a question that I ask frequently, and I can't say enough good stuff about Kane.

00:12:49.000 Kane is a legit citizen patriot.

00:12:51.000 Kane was just working, what, some finance jab or something?

00:12:54.000 And now he literally has one of the most trafficked, one of the most popular websites out there.

00:12:59.000 And it's like him and one other guy, and they're doing page views that are comparable to Drudge.

00:13:03.000 I visit it multiple times a day, citizenfreepress.com.

00:13:06.000 And Kane and I text all the time.

00:13:08.000 I got such a kick.

00:13:09.000 You know, Kane, what was it?

00:13:10.000 One o'clock Eastern, A.M. Eastern.

00:13:12.000 You text me, are you still up?

00:13:14.000 I said, of course I'm still up, Kane.

00:13:16.000 It was on some Judge Cannon thing.

00:13:17.000 So I love the way you process information, Kane.

00:13:19.000 Kane, what are the major threats that you see on the horizon that we have to address coming into November for Donald Trump's second term?

00:13:28.000 Okay, well, yeah, thanks for the kind words about the site.

00:13:32.000 And just so you know, it's actually just me.

00:13:35.000 The other guy, Spencer, handles the Citizen Free Press Twitter feed.

00:13:39.000 So you can blame him for any bad tweets, but he hits that seven days a week.

00:13:43.000 He hits that seven days a week, 12, 14 hours a day.

00:13:47.000 And I'm running the site lately.

00:13:49.000 You know, it's been 16, 17 hours, nine in the morning till two o'clock at night.

00:13:54.000 The threats to Trump, though, you know, well, first, I got to tell you, they're burning couches in Lexington after what Jack the Ripper did, the former Hisdale about Hilldale player last night.

00:14:04.000 They're burning couches in Lexington.

00:14:06.000 And Calapari, you know, Calipari on the hot seat.

00:14:09.000 I got to leave that, though.

00:14:10.000 So let's talk about threats to Trump.

00:14:12.000 So the legal threats, they're disappearing, right?

00:14:16.000 The Fannie Willis case, I don't think is going to go to trial before the election.

00:14:20.000 We'll see if it even goes to trial at all.

00:14:23.000 Everyone knows about the appeal that was accepted by Judge McAfee.

00:14:27.000 So for them to appeal to the Georgia, the Georgia Court of Appeals, whether they can remove, you know, whether they will decide to remove Fannie Willis.

00:14:35.000 If not, it can go to the Georgia Supreme Court.

00:14:38.000 And then there's another backup.

00:14:39.000 Georgia also passed a law that kept signed just about a week ago that allows a commission to be created that could remove prosecutors.

00:14:46.000 So I'm not that worried about the Fannie Willis case, even though that is the one where you and I both thought they were pretty much guaranteed to get a conviction just because of the Fulton County jury.

00:14:55.000 Now, yeah, regarding the DC cases, they've sort of been put on hold too.

00:15:00.000 We're going to be waiting for the Supreme Court to decide on both Nathan versus Fisher and that obstruction charge, that cooked up Enron charge.

00:15:08.000 And we're going to be waiting on the immunity ruling.

00:15:10.000 So, and then once that begins again in July, then it's 90 days of motions at a minimum before that starts.

00:15:18.000 So I really don't think Trump has any legal threats.

00:15:24.000 Although, again, there's a chance that that's a good idea.

00:15:26.000 Well, hold on.

00:15:27.000 Can I interject, Kane, just because of time on radio?

00:15:30.000 The seizure of his business assets.

00:15:32.000 I want to play this cut 117, please.

00:15:34.000 I want you to remember this moment.

00:15:37.000 And don't forget it.

00:15:39.000 If the New York Attorney General starts to take his homes away, starts to seize his assets.

00:15:45.000 It's all going to be on camera.

00:15:47.000 Pundits are going to sit there and scream about this.

00:15:50.000 This man cannot be elected.

00:15:51.000 You're going to create the greatest victimhood of 2024, and you're going to elect Donald Trump. 0.96

00:15:59.000 Now, that's the slob Frank Lunt.

00:16:01.000 I think he's right, Citizen Kane, though.

00:16:03.000 You see, Luntz is not a Trump guy, but he's kind of coming around.

00:16:07.000 He's seeing a trend.

00:16:08.000 Mr. Kane.

00:16:10.000 Yeah, he said it from the beginning.

00:16:11.000 He's the one who sounded the alarm about the Nelson Mandela effect that's happening with Trump.

00:16:16.000 And he's been saying it actually for months.

00:16:18.000 I had not seen that clip.

00:16:20.000 I'll have to put in the stack.

00:16:20.000 That's a great clip.

00:16:22.000 And they're right.

00:16:23.000 You know, it actually helps Trump do a, it certainly has helped him with independence and it's helped him to solidify the base.

00:16:30.000 We don't have time, but there was a fascinating new poll that shows that RFK is getting nearly 26% of the vote in Arizona.

00:16:36.000 And so that's that's fat.

00:16:38.000 I find we have been on this.

00:16:39.000 You and I, Kane, and the third party element, I think we got to really track this closely.

00:16:44.000 So final thoughts, Mr. Kane.

00:16:46.000 Yeah, well, let's hope he chooses Nicole Shanahan as his running mate instead of Aaron Rodgers.

00:16:51.000 26% is a huge number in Arizona.

00:16:54.000 He's going to get bigger numbers than people think.

00:16:56.000 Generally, third-party candidates do worse than they poll, but they do better.

00:17:01.000 As we learned from Ross Perot, they do better if people think they actually have a chance to win.

00:17:06.000 So Kennedy is going to be a factor that we're going to have to watch.

00:17:09.000 Right now, it seems to be very, very close to 50-50 in terms of him taking votes for Trump.

00:17:17.000 And I'm sorry to interrupt, Kane, but it's 50-50.

00:17:20.000 Over time, I think that that will start to trend against Biden, especially with younger voters.

00:17:27.000 But RFK is going to be the Ross Perot of the 2024 election.

00:17:32.000 Everybody, check out citizenfreepress.com.

00:17:34.000 That is citizenfreepress.com.

00:17:36.000 And I know that since we've been talking, Kane, you might not be able to see, but Northwestern is just back from the half.

00:17:42.000 And so go Northwestern and our Evanston roots.

00:17:46.000 They're down one point.

00:17:47.000 I know you're watching.

00:17:48.000 Happy to watch it and enjoy.

00:17:48.000 Yeah.

00:17:50.000 Yeah, just that IU wants that coach.

00:17:52.000 The Florida Atlanta coach, Dusty May, is a former manager for Bob Knight.

00:17:57.000 Mr. Kane, keep it up.

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00:19:05.000 In a second, we're going to have Raheem Kassam to walk us through this very important story that he's published on the national pulse about the influencer network that is being funded through dark money apparatus that is going to play a big role in the upcoming election.

00:19:26.000 You see, a lot of these discussions happen on social media.

00:19:30.000 We talked about banning TikTok, but it is a fact that the trans and gay agenda is pushed primarily on these social media applications through the algorithms, through preferential elevation. 0.84

00:19:44.000 Go to Cut52.

00:19:46.000 The man, Dylan Mulvaney, who is masquerading as a woman, says that TikTok helps more and more people, especially kids, become trans.

00:19:56.000 PlayCut 52.

00:19:57.000 And now, with transness, I'm hoping that it's the same trajectory of like, you know, the people that are being so outwardly transphobic online in my comments and my DMs, I'm hoping that that will become like increasingly embarrassing for them and that these media organizations and these social platforms will be equally embarrassed that they tolerated and allowed these things to happen and didn't step up when we needed them most. 0.92

00:20:20.000 But I also think about how specific to TikTok, because I still am like, what is this app?

00:20:25.000 What am I even doing?

00:20:27.000 I think it's a way for young people, especially to see people that are like them.

00:20:33.000 To see people that are like them.

00:20:35.000 It's just, it's incredible to me why women put up with this with Dylan Mulvaney masquerading around.

00:20:42.000 But women are more agreeable.

00:20:44.000 In fact, a lot of the women who support the trans agenda, they say, well, finally, somebody understands us and somebody is understanding our struggle.

00:20:52.000 Welcome aboard, is what some of them say.

00:20:54.000 Let's go to this one here, Cut 64, transgender colonel in the space force, Brie Fram.

00:21:00.000 If someone who's going to revolutionize the way we fight in space, you'll hear the rest.

00:21:05.000 Play Cut 64.

00:21:07.000 And if that brain who's going to revolutionize the way we fight in space, we fight in cyber just happens to be in a trans body, you should want them all serving alongside me.

00:21:18.000 That is a colonel in the space force talks about how you're going to want them serving alongside you in the space force.

00:21:28.000 Does that make our military better prepared to have someone who with very serious mental issues masquerading as a woman in the space force? 1.00

00:21:41.000 We're going to fight in space with a bunch of trannies. 1.00

00:21:45.000 That's what we're going to do. 0.56

00:21:47.000 Let's go to this one here.

00:21:49.000 All of these are posted on social media.

00:21:50.000 It makes a big deal.

00:21:51.000 And this ties into Raheem Kassam.

00:21:53.000 It really does make you wonder why do so many women support the trans agenda?

00:21:58.000 And you might say, oh, I don't support it.

00:22:00.000 But no, the trans agenda is largely supported by women.

00:22:04.000 It's worth an explanation and some, you know, some exploration, I should say.

00:22:09.000 Cut 66, these are trans parents that let their two-year-old decide gender. 0.94

00:22:14.000 These trans parents should be put in prison for child abuse. 1.00

00:22:16.000 Play Cut 66. 0.98

00:22:18.000 And two and a half-year-old Sparrow has yet to make a choice about that gender.

00:22:22.000 Sparrow, do you want a banana?

00:22:26.000 They're anti-gender, but we're using babem pronouns. 0.99

00:22:30.000 Sure, they have anatomy.

00:22:31.000 We understand it, but like that's not indicative of their identity.

00:22:36.000 It's something that Sparrow's going to have to figure out and then tell us before we cut down on anyone else.

00:22:43.000 Particularly because, you know, something that our parents did and they got it wrong.

00:22:48.000 This all happens on the social media landscape.

00:22:52.000 Joining us now is Raheem Kassam, who has a very important story about Midas Touch.

00:22:58.000 Raheem, welcome to the program.

00:22:59.000 Walk our audience through this story and how it ties into the social media landscape.

00:23:04.000 Yeah, thanks, Charlie.

00:23:06.000 The group Midas Touch, which I think a lot of people might have seen in passing on social media, but have never really understood quite who they are, what they are, where does their money come from.

00:23:16.000 They've gotten away for a very long time with peddling a number of hoaxes, frankly, against the political right.

00:23:22.000 And they were behind the bloodbath hoax from Donald Trump's Ohio speech last week.

00:23:28.000 So we decided, you know, it's time somebody spent a fairly decent amount of time researching not just the background and the origins and the connections of these guys, but actually, you know, where is their money coming from?

00:23:41.000 How did this thing come to be?

00:23:42.000 And what are their end goals here, really?

00:23:45.000 And it's funny, in just a couple of days' work, you know, we've managed to tie them to Reid Hoffman, who is the Eugene Carroll, Nikki Haley, Fusion GPS, LinkedIn founder, multi-billionaire left-wing mega donor, and also to Jack Smith through Midas Touch contributors and collaborators on their network.

00:24:06.000 They have been very clearly amassing a power base on the political left that is putting the old hat groups like David Brock's Media Matters and others, putting them out of business, quite frankly.

00:24:20.000 They're faster, they're sharper, they're more impactful.

00:24:24.000 And if you are somebody on the political left who wants lots of misinformation and disinformation peddled about Donald Trump and the MAGA movement, then right now, Midas Touch is where you go.

00:24:36.000 Yeah, so talk about who's funding it, their infrastructure.

00:24:39.000 And there's obviously some sort of deal.

00:24:43.000 They get SEO placement on Yahoo and Google.

00:24:48.000 That's extraordinary.

00:24:49.000 I mean, conservative sites never get such placement there.

00:24:53.000 So walk us through all that.

00:24:54.000 It's essentially a Democrat super PAC that's getting preferential treatment and search engine optimization.

00:25:00.000 Search engine optimization amongst the corporate media, even on X.com, formally Twitter.

00:25:08.000 Everything that they do appears to be boosted.

00:25:11.000 They have a large number of people, some anonymous, some people who we've identified who are working for them around the clock, pulling clips, quoting them out of context.

00:25:21.000 And really what's interesting to us is: yes, okay, so Midas Touch is run by the Macellas brothers out of originally in Hollywood and left-wing entertainment law circles.

00:25:34.000 And they first started doing this really around 2020, and they started doing it in a relatively transparent manner.

00:25:40.000 You could see where their money was coming from, lots of Hollywood donations.

00:25:44.000 Their father is a big entertainment lawyer, very well connected on the West Coast.

00:25:49.000 But last year, they went very, very dark money.

00:25:53.000 Now, you no longer get to know who puts money into Midas Touch.

00:25:57.000 You no longer get to know where their funding streams come from.

00:25:59.000 And if you look, if you look on YouTube, if you look on TikTok, if you look on X, the numbers they're getting are just absolutely extraordinary for the size of their natural audience, which comes back to your point.

00:26:14.000 For instance, if anybody researches my website, The National Pulse, on Google, you'll notice that they still refuse to put us in Google News.

00:26:23.000 They still refuse us front page, even when people Google specific terms about us.

00:26:28.000 But if you Google something very basic about what's going on in political media or political news, Midas Touch will actually come up as one of the first recommended places.

00:26:39.000 Now, they don't pretend really to be a news outlet.

00:26:42.000 They say themselves, and they've said in many interviews, they did one just this week with Semaphore, where they say, look, we are here just to mess things up for Donald Trump.

00:26:51.000 That is what we exist for.

00:26:52.000 So it's no surprise that a week before the State of the Union, they were invited by Anita Dunn, Joe Biden's communications strategist, into the White House and got a special preview screening from the first gentleman and from Anita Dunn themselves.

00:27:10.000 They are extremely well hooked up.

00:27:13.000 They are being leveraged now by the Biden campaign and the DNC, and they're throwing mountains of cash around like you couldn't believe.

00:27:20.000 This is the new central focal point for the political left online.

00:27:26.000 So what are they filed as?

00:27:27.000 Are they a super PAC?

00:27:28.000 Are they a for-profit company?

00:27:31.000 What are they designated as?

00:27:33.000 So they had previously been a PAC, and you could see at the time where the money was coming from and how the disbursements were being made.

00:27:40.000 As I say, in 2023, they changed their status.

00:27:43.000 That is an article that we are currently working on at the moment to walk people through exactly how they operate, exactly.

00:27:49.000 You know, they have an LLC, but is everything going through there?

00:27:51.000 They have affiliate packs.

00:27:53.000 They have affiliate organizations, some of which I know you're familiar with.

00:27:57.000 They paid, for instance, a group like Patriot Takes, which is anything but patriotic, a lot of cash in the run-up to the 2020 election and thereafter to peddle falsehoods about Donald Trump and about the political right again.

00:28:10.000 And I noticed just going through some of their stuff today that one of their focal points is Charlie Kirk.

00:28:17.000 You seem to be a particular thorn in their side.

00:28:20.000 And I can see, you know, you can see once you start to know what you're looking for, you can see that Cogstern can start to get aware of these things.

00:28:27.000 But it's disturbing because Rasmussen came out with a poll this morning that showed 40% of U.S. likely voters believed that the bloodbath hoax was actually Donald Trump saying that he wanted to inflict political violence on his enemies.

00:28:42.000 Well, that started with Midas Touch.

00:28:45.000 That is the exact kind of, you know, quote, misinformation, quote, disinformation that we were told, we've been told by the CIA, we've been told by X, we've been told by all these places that those things will be taken down.

00:28:57.000 We will not tolerate those sorts of things.

00:28:58.000 So I say to people like Elon Musk, you know, you said it yourself that you don't allow this sort of thing on your platform.

00:29:03.000 You've begged borrow and stolen to make that case.

00:29:06.000 Make it in real time.

00:29:07.000 You know, places like that are peddling this stuff day in and day out.

00:29:13.000 Yep.

00:29:13.000 And it's very important to understand that these things are manufactured and synthetic, and they're not just going after Trump.

00:29:20.000 They're strategies to go after the entire MAGA movement.

00:29:23.000 That is really what's here.

00:29:24.000 And is Reid Hoffman behind this, Rahim?

00:29:26.000 Is that correct?

00:29:27.000 Yeah, so Reid Hoffman was one of their first donors.

00:29:30.000 They had a handful of very wealthy, early-on people who got involved.

00:29:34.000 There was actually a very critical Rolling Stone magazine article about the way Midas Touch was operating, about the types of money that was flowing into it that was published some years ago now.

00:29:43.000 It does seem like in the intervening period, the political left has gone from having casting a skeptical eye to groups like that, to hugging them with both arms.

00:29:51.000 But yeah, Reid Hoffman, one of the early backers.

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00:30:34.000 Rahim, can you talk about the pile of cash that Joe Biden has and will continue to grow?

00:30:40.000 How enormous is it?

00:30:42.000 And this whole Biden influencer army strategy that they're trying to build out.

00:30:49.000 Yeah, look, I make a habit of, for my sins, I suppose, consuming a lot of left-wing media.

00:30:55.000 And there's a lot of jovial response this week to the fact that Joe Biden has, you know, they say double the amount of cash on hand than both the Trump campaign and the RNC put together.

00:31:09.000 Now, I think we all know why that is.

00:31:11.000 I think it's very obvious the screws that have been turning by the apparatus, by the regime, in order to starve the Trump campaign of cash in order to bleed it dry so that it can't actually take part in a free and fair election.

00:31:25.000 And we have to phrase it like that.

00:31:27.000 Because, for instance, I was listening to the Politico Playbook podcast this morning, and they're not exactly hiding that fact.

00:31:33.000 They're very open about the fact that it is the legal cases, it is the lawfare that is standing in Donald Trump's way at the moment of actually spending in the election.

00:31:42.000 Well, you know, I know we say this all the time.

00:31:44.000 I know it's somewhat become a truism, maybe even a cliché at this point, but this is third world stuff.

00:31:51.000 The idea that you can launch a number of different lawfare incursions against your political opponent in an election year or in advance of an election year, but into the election year.

00:32:04.000 You know, a lot of these cases, whether they will be heard prior to the election, just before the election, just after the election, significantly and seriously hampers Donald Trump's ability to spend money where it needs to be spent and then is out on the campaign trail.

00:32:18.000 And so that is a requisite part of the gloating that you're seeing at the moment.

00:32:22.000 And it's really, you have to look at it this way.

00:32:25.000 They don't have anything else that they can do here, right?

00:32:29.000 From a political strategy perspective, you're going into this as a Biden campaign saying all we have is money to spend, right?

00:32:38.000 So we need to take it from the unions.

00:32:39.000 We need to get it from all of our dark money operations.

00:32:42.000 We need to funnel it through, whether it's places like Midas Touch or you name it.

00:32:45.000 There'll be cash floating around every which way you could possibly imagine.

00:32:49.000 They don't have a positive message to take out to the country.

00:32:52.000 They don't have any good campaign faces and names to send out to the country.

00:32:58.000 Joe Biden himself will not play well out in the country.

00:33:00.000 Hamala certainly won't play well in the country. 1.00

00:33:02.000 Pete Buttigieg won't play well into the country.

00:33:05.000 And so what do you do?

00:33:06.000 You amass a war chest of $2 plus billion dollars, which is what they're doing, in order to just run fake, out of context hoaxes against your opponent.

00:33:17.000 That's what they're banking on here.

00:33:19.000 They're banking on the fact that everybody's just going to load up their Instagrams, their TikTok, their Xs, see these clips that are being peddled by the likes of Midas Touch and try and win the election that way.

00:33:31.000 All at the same time, Donald Trump can't spend a penny in response right now.

00:33:37.000 It's one of those things where we have to be careful about what we say, I guess, but perhaps it's a conversation for a thought crime episode.

00:33:45.000 But I'm stunned.

00:33:46.000 You know, I grew up in England, little old England, and I was told that across the Atlantic in America, there are all these brash bruisers who are ready to brawl for their nation and its freedom.

00:33:56.000 And I just see the salami slicing every day over and over again.

00:34:00.000 And I just keep thinking to myself, where are you, America?

00:34:03.000 How is this happening?

00:34:05.000 Yeah, I mean, we're allowing it to happen and just sitting idly by.

00:34:10.000 Raheem, in closing here, what do you think is one of the things that you worry most about to impede Donald Trump winning in November that you don't think people are talking about?

00:34:20.000 Yeah, look, I think for all of the talk about the money stuff, I think there is the ability of Donald Trump to get around that.

00:34:25.000 He obviously can earn a lot more media.

00:34:27.000 He does get a lot more traction in doing the campaign rallies and getting around the country.

00:34:33.000 I suppose the thing I worry most about is this move by the Democrats to win the House.

00:34:38.000 There's a lot to be said about what's going on, especially on the abortion argument.

00:34:42.000 So they take back the House.

00:34:43.000 And then when Donald Trump wins the election in November, the House, the Democrat-run House, goes, we're not going to see you.

00:34:51.000 We're not going to certify the election results.

00:34:53.000 I think they are careening towards that.

00:34:55.000 They've signaled it already.

00:34:57.000 We've done a number of stories about that.

00:34:59.000 And that, I think, is a big problem.

00:35:00.000 I mean, huge civil war-style problem.

00:35:03.000 Transition integrity project.

00:35:04.000 People got to keep an eye on this.

00:35:06.000 They have it all gamed out.

00:35:07.000 They're going to do the stuff that they're trying to indict many people right now in several states.

00:35:11.000 They're going to have alternate electors.

00:35:12.000 They're going to do all of it.

00:35:14.000 The fight is going to go on just beyond the election.

00:35:17.000 Raheem, thanks so much.

00:35:21.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:35:22.000 Email us as alwaysfreedom at CharlieKirk.com.

00:35:25.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.

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