The Charlie Kirk Show - August 25, 2026


El-Sayed's Mask-Off Moment


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00:01:14.000 All right, welcome everybody.
00:01:18.000 It's August 25th, 2026.
00:01:20.000 We're here in Phoenix, Arizona at the Y Refi Studios.
00:01:23.000 How are we doing, Blake?
00:01:24.000 Oh, we're doing splendid.
00:01:25.000 It's been a really fun morning around here because every so often a really important interview comes along and it just exposes everything.
00:01:36.000 Now, I like to.
00:01:37.000 Hopefully, not expose too much in this case.
00:01:39.000 Expose more than we wanted to, actually, than a couple of these exchanges.
00:01:42.000 This is a personal question, Doctor.
00:01:44.000 We'll get to that in just a second.
00:01:46.000 But Jesse Waters had U.S. Senate candidate Abdul El Sayed on his show last night.
00:01:53.000 And this thing is a veritable clip machine.
00:01:56.000 There's so much worth getting into here because there is an undercurrent, a narrative that is percolating on social media that.
00:02:08.000 Yours truly, or Blake or Charlie certainly would count among those, only have an issue with the rise of Islam in the West because it is some Zionist op.
00:02:20.000 That is not true.
00:02:22.000 That is a lie.
00:02:24.000 And when you have a piece of tape like we're about to play you from this interview with El Syed and Jesse Waters, you realize how true the, I guess, concerns surrounding Islam truly are.
00:02:38.000 And they have nothing to do with Israel.
00:02:39.000 Okay?
00:02:40.000 Yeah, there is overlap.
00:02:42.000 But there are true incompatibilities that emerge when you ask pointed questions.
00:02:46.000 And so, to Jesse Waters' credit, I like Jesse, he's a friend.
00:02:51.000 He did a great job.
00:02:52.000 So, we're going to start with some of the easy ones.
00:02:54.000 Let's just talk about reparations.
00:02:56.000 Let's start there, and we'll work our way into the more Islamic centered questions.
00:03:00.000 Stop for reparations.
00:03:03.000 Do you support that?
00:03:07.000 I think we need to have an honest conversation about the incredible debt that was put upon black folks as a function of slavery that we have yet to pay.
00:03:15.000 And I just think that's fair.
00:03:16.000 Like, if people are enslaved and forced into servitude, and then we don't actually have a conversation about all that was owed, that our own country agreed was owed, I just think that it's past time to have that conversation.
00:03:30.000 That shouldn't be a crazy thing.
00:03:31.000 I think it's important for our country to have a conversation about it.
00:03:33.000 So, you want to have a conversation about it?
00:03:34.000 How we make people whole.
00:03:34.000 You want to have a conversation about it because we have you on the record as backing it, but now you just want to have a conversation.
00:03:40.000 I got it.
00:03:42.000 That lingo always irks me.
00:03:45.000 We need to have a conversation.
00:03:46.000 That always means.
00:03:47.000 I want to do X, but I'm going to frame this like a, I don't know, like a nagging housewife or something.
00:03:53.000 It's a Trojan horse.
00:03:54.000 It's a wolf in sheep's clothing.
00:03:56.000 It's a poison pill.
00:03:57.000 Have a conversation is expand the Overton window to the point where normie America goes, Yeah, you know what?
00:04:03.000 We should all gather together and pay trillions of dollars to people that never were slaves by people who never owned them.
00:04:08.000 I mean, that was what 2020 was.
00:04:09.000 Oh, we're going to have a national conversation about race.
00:04:12.000 And it turns out the conversation was rip down statues, loot stores, get rid of every standard at universities, double the murder rate.
00:04:20.000 That's exactly right.
00:04:21.000 Let's have a conversation about taking the country further left, okay?
00:04:25.000 Reject that.
00:04:26.000 As soon as some lefty says, Let's have a conversation, just know in the back of your head, he's full of crap.
00:04:31.000 Reject it, move on.
00:04:32.000 Okay, stop five.
00:04:33.000 So, you think it's okay for a parent to slash his kids to the university?
00:04:38.000 You think that's okay?
00:04:40.000 I mean, do you really want to have this conversation?
00:04:43.000 Are you circumcised?
00:04:44.000 Yeah, yeah, but I mean, that's a personal question, doctor.
00:04:49.000 So, you probably should want to move on.
00:04:50.000 You probably should want to move on.
00:04:52.000 Circumcision's different than castration.
00:04:55.000 I think it's a problem.
00:04:56.000 It's a problem that you think that you get to decide what happens between a parent, a doctor, And a patient.
00:05:03.000 And I'm just saying that, yes, circumcision is surgery on a kid's dingling.
00:05:06.000 So if you really want to bring that up, you can.
00:05:08.000 I just think you guys are really selective about how to talk about these things.
00:05:11.000 Abdul, Michigan's not going for that.
00:05:13.000 That is sick stuff.
00:05:16.000 It's very wild how he framed that because Michigan, as we may know, has a serious problem with FGM.
00:05:23.000 Female GMO circumcision.
00:05:24.000 They lop off a lot there because they consider it a religious commandment.
00:05:29.000 Yep.
00:05:30.000 So just so you're aware, the false equivalency.
00:05:34.000 Between circumcision, I believe that America still has the highest circumcision rate of any Western nation by some length.
00:05:42.000 Islamic countries actually do it as well.
00:05:45.000 So, what's interesting there is trying to, and this is why today's stream is called The Rise of the Red Green Alliance, because what he's doing here is he's espousing radically pro left sentiment by supporting the trans movement and genital mutilation of young kids before they've reached sexual maturity with circumcision.
00:06:06.000 That's not a.
00:06:07.000 And Jesse was 100% right there.
00:06:08.000 Castration and circumcision are not the same thing.
00:06:11.000 That's wacky, Abdul.
00:06:13.000 Play that on repeat up until November.
00:06:17.000 This is what happens when you have foreign ideologies come in with foreign ways of thinking and viewing the world.
00:06:23.000 Well, I wish we could blame that on foreigners.
00:06:25.000 That, if anything, shows he's way too assimilated.
00:06:28.000 That he's come here and he's managed to take the very American absurdity of you can change your sex with a few hormones and a surgery, and it's totally harmless to do this to kids who are.
00:06:38.000 10, 8, 5 years old.
00:06:42.000 So he keeps going.
00:06:42.000 Red Green Alliance.
00:06:43.000 And we haven't even gotten into the Islam stuff.
00:06:45.000 Sot 7.
00:06:46.000 You want to replace the right to bear arms with the right to health care?
00:06:52.000 You don't want to replace the Second Amendment, do you?
00:06:55.000 Well, look, man, I think more people are more worried about whether or not they can see a doctor than whether or not they can have a gun.
00:07:00.000 I'm just going to put that out there.
00:07:01.000 I mean, you're dodging the question.
00:07:03.000 Do you want to replace the Second Amendment?
00:07:05.000 I'm just saying that more people are more concerned about seeing a doctor.
00:07:09.000 If we had a right to health care in this country, they probably wouldn't.
00:07:11.000 And I think that'd be a pretty good thing, don't you?
00:07:13.000 I think you dodged the question.
00:07:14.000 And that's a pretty big one in Michigan.
00:07:16.000 That's exactly right.
00:07:18.000 You remember, I'm reminded of the other time we just had a conversation, Blake, during BLM.
00:07:23.000 And guess what?
00:07:24.000 Gun sales went through the roof.
00:07:25.000 You know why?
00:07:26.000 Because people were terrified that they couldn't stay safe because the police couldn't do anything.
00:07:30.000 Because there were tens of thousands of crazed anarchists on the streets talking about a racial reckoning.
00:07:37.000 And they were going through suburbs.
00:07:38.000 They were going through like Santa Monica, burning buildings.
00:07:41.000 Santa Monica.
00:07:42.000 If you've ever been to Santa Monica, it's an upper class enclave in Los Angeles.
00:07:47.000 And that all got looted and burned.
00:07:48.000 People wanted guns.
00:07:50.000 So I don't know what he's talking about here, but what you are seeing is a very smooth talking man who thinks he's the second coming.
00:07:59.000 He's like the Muslim Obama, unless you believe him.
00:08:02.000 Let's not even get started.
00:08:03.000 That's controversial.
00:08:04.000 Not even get started.
00:08:05.000 I'm not saying I do.
00:08:06.000 I'm just saying I could predict the audience's reaction.
00:08:08.000 But he thinks he's the second coming of Obama, that he can talk his way out of any corner.
00:08:13.000 And that is another Trojan horse poison pill moment where he's actually telling you exactly what he thinks.
00:08:19.000 So you better believe him.
00:08:21.000 He doesn't believe in your Second Amendment rights.
00:08:23.000 He just said it right there.
00:08:25.000 All right, here we go.
00:08:26.000 Abolishing ICE.
00:08:27.000 Sadi.
00:08:28.000 I know I don't agree with you on this.
00:08:29.000 You want to abolish ICE?
00:08:31.000 Who's going to deport the criminal aliens from the country?
00:08:34.000 Long before we ever had ICE, we had INS.
00:08:37.000 We were able to enforce our immigration policies without shooting people in the face and the back of the head.
00:08:41.000 And we just celebrated our 250th anniversary.
00:08:44.000 That was an anniversary of throwing away tyranny.
00:08:47.000 Now, to bring that tyranny back under the guise of the U.S. government itself, that seems to me to be inconsistent with the freedom you.
00:08:53.000 And I both love.
00:08:54.000 Yeah, but I mean, that's a dodge, Abdul.
00:08:56.000 We got a guy here from Southeast Asia, molested a kid.
00:09:00.000 Ice just picked him up.
00:09:02.000 You want that guy to stay in Michigan?
00:09:06.000 I'm glad that that guy got picked up, but that's a different thing than saying that INS would not have picked him up.
00:09:11.000 Jesse, you're too smart for this.
00:09:12.000 It's a bureaucratic game you're playing.
00:09:14.000 And that's a dodge.
00:09:15.000 You need guys to get these guys out of the country.
00:09:18.000 Yep.
00:09:19.000 So he wants to, what we've established, he wants genital mutilation of minors.
00:09:24.000 He wants to support the abolishment of ICE.
00:09:26.000 He wants to take your guns away.
00:09:28.000 And this guy's smooth talking, smiling.
00:09:30.000 He's going to charm your pants off.
00:09:33.000 Wolf in sheep's clothing.
00:09:34.000 And a big distinction that we need to be making here because this was such a false equivalency that El Said does here.
00:09:41.000 And Jesse presses him on a 2022 clip, Blake, about where he compared the people that attack Sharia or criticize Sharia law as being rooted in white supremacy, which.
00:09:54.000 Is that's not the case.
00:09:56.000 It's a choice.
00:09:57.000 That's a take.
00:09:58.000 It's not six.
00:09:59.000 You said getting rid of Sharia law was white supremacy.
00:10:04.000 Can you explain that one?
00:10:05.000 Canon law is the name for Christian law.
00:10:07.000 I don't begrudge you your right to practice your faith as you choose.
00:10:11.000 I don't know why the idea that I could practice my faith as I choose is a problem.
00:10:16.000 Nobody is trying to push Sharia law on anyone else, just like I hope nobody is trying to push canon law on anybody else, because we live in an America where you should have the freedom of your religion.
00:10:25.000 There's a lot there.
00:10:26.000 That is so stupid and dumb that it's going to take us a little while to unpack it.
00:10:30.000 Blake, I want to start with you.
00:10:31.000 You know this stuff.
00:10:33.000 Canon law is more Catholic.
00:10:34.000 It's more associated with Catholicism.
00:10:36.000 Canon law is basically law for the internal conduct of Catholicism.
00:10:41.000 Canon law exists, and it's like if the church is pursuing discipline against a priest or a bishop, canon law would be involved.
00:10:52.000 Whether you can annul a marriage or whether a marriage is valid, that's all.
00:10:55.000 Canon law.
00:10:56.000 I don't know of any country on earth that has really ever.
00:10:59.000 In modern times, it has been subject to canon law.
00:11:04.000 I guess maybe the Vatican technically is or something.
00:11:06.000 And then, even in the past, I guess a good way of illustrating it is even in the Middle Ages, absolute peak of the Catholic Church's power, you actually wouldn't have canon law as your only law.
00:11:15.000 You would have canon law, and it would exist alongside civil law.
00:11:19.000 And so sometimes you'd have like a priest might be subject to canon law and not normal.
00:11:24.000 It was a very dramatic part.
00:11:25.000 We don't need to get into all the legal history of it.
00:11:27.000 But it is quite different from under.
00:11:30.000 Islam, where Sharia, I think, might literally just mean law, or I should actually look that up, but it is much more explicitly an assertion of this is how all of society should be organized to be along Islamic principles.
00:11:43.000 Yeah, and it's important for you guys to understand.
00:11:46.000 So he's drawing a false equivalency, which is no shocker.
00:11:49.000 This guy lies as he breathes.
00:11:51.000 But Sharia law is not a religious belief system per se.
00:11:55.000 It claims authority that is more comprehensive to the civil and legal code, and it even has separate courts.
00:12:02.000 So you have separate courts if you're an Islamic person, a Muslim believer, you'll have separate courts.
00:12:08.000 So it's fundamentally incompatible with the U.S. Constitution because it cannot operate in parallel.
00:12:16.000 To our own rules, laws, and customs and norms.
00:12:19.000 Canon law has nothing to do with that.
00:12:21.000 As Blake said, it is an internal affairs kind of code, right?
00:12:26.000 So you're dealing inside the church.
00:12:28.000 This is dealing both inside the church, talks about what you can eat, how you get married, the time of certain celebrations, Sharia law does, but then it actually has courts of conduct that it sets up, okay?
00:12:39.000 So America has one civil legal system governed by the Constitution, and then we have obviously laws that are specific to certain states.
00:12:47.000 And those apply equally to everybody that is in those jurisdictions.
00:12:52.000 So, anyways, he's trying to say, hey, you're Christian, just let us worship the way we will.
00:12:57.000 Here's the big takeaway here.
00:13:00.000 And this is why this stream is called The Rise of the Red Green Alliance.
00:13:04.000 It's because Muslims like El Sayed will, when they are in the minority, form alliances, intersectional alliances with other minority groups in order to gain more and more political power.
00:13:16.000 They will attach themselves to pet causes like the trans issue.
00:13:21.000 Or abolishing ICE or open borders.
00:13:25.000 They will attach themselves to every far left minority intersectional grievance group that they can.
00:13:32.000 But once they hit a certain tipping point, you better be darn sure that they will start instituting things like Sharia courts in a community near you.
00:13:40.000 That is the whole plan.
00:13:42.000 That is the whole game.
00:13:43.000 That's where this is going.
00:13:45.000 So this is not some Jewish op that makes me, Andrew Colvett, that is not Jewish, that is America first as it comes, support.
00:13:54.000 To raise awareness about the Islamification of the West.
00:13:57.000 It is not that.
00:13:58.000 It is a fundamental understanding of facts, logic, and reason that says this is where this train is headed and we better get off it real soon.
00:14:06.000 Blake, am I missing something?
00:14:07.000 Am I being unfair?
00:14:08.000 That's the most important thing the degree to which, if you look at European countries, if you look at the UK, if you look at, I think it's been a big problem in the Netherlands, it's definitely been a concern in Denmark.
00:14:22.000 It is the capacity for.
00:14:24.000 When you have a very large Islamic population, which we've never quite had in the US, like we've got little kernels of it in Michigan, you know, they're concerned about it in Texas, but nothing remotely like they have, nothing remotely like what they have in Europe in major cities, is you start getting an entire parallel society into formation where in Britain it's going viral that they're publishing these manuals pointing out that, like, in Britain,
00:14:51.000 you can't have sex with someone, even your wife, if it's, you know, without consent.
00:14:56.000 And that actually is rape and it's a serious crime.
00:14:59.000 And basically, one of the things is, they have people who live like full time in the United Kingdom.
00:15:05.000 But if they live in Birmingham, they can be deep in these parallel societies where the assumption is you live under Sharia.
00:15:11.000 It's difficult to escape these things.
00:15:14.000 There's legal disputes where people are saying, like, oh, well, actually, my husband has forbidden me from taking a job.
00:15:20.000 What am I allowed to do?
00:15:21.000 And people are saying, actually, in this country, you are allowed to get a job.
00:15:25.000 Your husband can't ban you from doing that.
00:15:27.000 Well, and that's a big story that the UK and America, by the way, we're doing the same thing.
00:15:32.000 We're importing people.
00:15:33.000 That you have to tell them that rape is bad.
00:15:36.000 That you can't rape here.
00:15:37.000 We have laws against that.
00:15:38.000 Not allowed.
00:15:39.000 Not allowed.
00:15:40.000 Just in case.
00:15:41.000 And by the way, it might affect your asylum claim if you rape somebody.
00:15:45.000 Just letting you know that's an obscene thing to do.
00:15:49.000 The fact that our leaders in the West are importing cultures that you have to remind that rape is bad is a complete abdication of the moral responsibility that they shoulder.
00:16:01.000 And they're refusing to shoulder, by the way, because they're foisting this upon us against our will, mind you.
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00:18:11.000 Without further ado, we have John Doyle from the Blaze.
00:18:14.000 Great show.
00:18:15.000 And by the way, his follow on X is great.
00:18:18.000 You do a great job there, John.
00:18:20.000 Good to see you again, my friend.
00:18:21.000 So we've been talking about.
00:18:22.000 Thank you, man.
00:18:23.000 Excited to be back.
00:18:23.000 Yeah, excellent.
00:18:25.000 And, um, Genuinely, you're one of the good guys.
00:18:28.000 You're fighting for all the right things.
00:18:29.000 So we have your back 100%.
00:18:31.000 John, so we've been talking about in the first couple segments here about this interview between Abdul El Sayed and Jesse Waters and pointing out some very fundamental differences that we are going to have when it comes to Christians and Muslims and being legitimately concerned about the rise of Islam in the West.
00:18:51.000 And now Abdul El Sayed has gotten himself into more trouble because he's linked up with Hassan Piker.
00:18:56.000 We're going to get to that.
00:18:56.000 You've been commenting on that.
00:18:58.000 But there is this undercurrent that has emerged as our voices have gotten louder, raising the alarms about Islam that it's actually just a Jewish op, that you are critical of the Islamification of the West because of the Jews.
00:19:11.000 It's actually all propaganda.
00:19:13.000 Here you go Sat 19.
00:19:15.000 Jesus is a very sacred prophet in Islam.
00:19:19.000 So much so that when God sends his messenger back down when everyone is saved in the Quran, he does not send Muhammad.
00:19:29.000 He sends Jesus back.
00:19:31.000 Okay?
00:19:31.000 So that's how holy and important Jesus is in Islam.
00:19:35.000 How often have you heard that?
00:19:36.000 Never, literally never.
00:19:38.000 And I didn't know why until recently, to be honest with you.
00:19:41.000 And now I know it was propaganda from Israel to get Americans to hate all Muslims so that when Israel kills them and takes their land, you're going to say, well, I mean, what are you going to do?
00:19:53.000 The Muslims are the terrorists.
00:19:54.000 Not the Israelis, but the victims are the terrorists.
00:19:57.000 It has been an overwhelming propaganda campaign to smear Muslims in this country.
00:20:01.000 John, have you seen this narrative rising up on social media, especially with the kids, Gen Zers, millennials?
00:20:08.000 And what's your reaction to it?
00:20:10.000 Yeah, of course.
00:20:10.000 I mean, it's the most popular idea in the world.
00:20:12.000 I see it all over Instagram, all over Twitter.
00:20:14.000 And it's extremely deceptive.
00:20:16.000 I mean, obviously, these people are subversives, but we know as Christians, the one sin that can't be forgiven is the sin of blasphemy, which is to say, to deny the divinity of Jesus Christ.
00:20:25.000 And so, frankly, I don't really care how respectful your religion is toward God if it's not actually acknowledging him to be God in the first place.
00:20:32.000 You know, you're going to award him the status of prophet or something and say that we at least have some kind of reverence for him.
00:20:38.000 Ultimately, not only do you not acknowledge his divinity, you also have like a what? 1500 year history of killing those who do.
00:20:44.000 So, I guess, thank you for the, you know, consolation prize, but that's not going to be sufficient to win the hearts of American Christians.
00:20:50.000 So, it's totally deceptive, totally subversive.
00:20:52.000 And yeah, it's not actually a Jewish op to call out people who have defined themselves by their opposition to Western civilization for only a thousand or for over a thousand years, a militant opposition actually to Western civilization.
00:21:05.000 I mean, if you want to get into how funny it is, go read, you can go read the first section of the Quran, the first long section, I should say.
00:21:10.000 It's called The Cow, and it talks about.
00:21:13.000 Moses, it talks about a lot of other prophets.
00:21:15.000 Like they could just as honestly come out and say, Moses is an extremely important figure in Islam.
00:21:22.000 King Solomon and King David, they are all extremely important figures in Islam.
00:21:26.000 So really, we love those guys just as much as the Jewish people do.
00:21:31.000 So we don't have a problem with the Jews.
00:21:33.000 And I think we would all greatly roll our eyes at that assertion.
00:21:37.000 And I think that's the best way of illustrating just how absurd this claim is.
00:21:42.000 So I want to pull up a.
00:21:47.000 A quote from C.S. Lewis, and of course, I just lost it, but it's an important quote.
00:21:52.000 Here, I got it now.
00:21:54.000 This is from Mere Christianity, and it's talking about more of a Western tendency to say, Oh, I ascribe to the teachings of Jesus.
00:22:01.000 He's a great moral teacher.
00:22:02.000 But if you are going to call Jesus anything other than the Son of God, then you are ascribing to him something he did not ascribe to himself.
00:22:09.000 And this is the point C.S. Lewis makes.
00:22:10.000 He said, I'm trying here to prevent anyone saying the really foolish thing that people often say about him.
00:22:16.000 I'm ready to accept Jesus as a great moral teacher, but I don't accept his claim to be God.
00:22:21.000 That is the one thing we must not say, says C.S. Lewis.
00:22:25.000 A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher.
00:22:30.000 He would be either a lunatic on the level with a man who says he is a poached egg, or else he would be the devil of hell.
00:22:36.000 You must make your choice.
00:22:37.000 Either this man was and is the son of God, or else a madman, or something worse.
00:22:42.000 You can shut him up for a fool, you can spit at him and kill him as a demon, or you can fall at his feet and call him Lord and God.
00:22:48.000 But let us not come with any patronizing nonsense about his being a great human teacher.
00:22:53.000 He has not left that open to us, he did not intend to.
00:22:56.000 And I would add an addendum here that he did not open up the option for us to call him just a prophet to be revered by Islam.
00:23:05.000 That is not what he said he was.
00:23:06.000 And that is not what scripture reveals him to be.
00:23:09.000 So the point is I think your point is also the right point that they have a history now, dating back over millennia, of being a conquering political ideology that wants to kill infidels or at least tax them and subjugate them to some great extent.
00:23:25.000 Yeah, that's absolutely the case.
00:23:27.000 You know, we obviously are very skeptical of mass immigration from the third world, but.
00:23:31.000 It's one thing when you have demographics coming over and they want to come over and they want to maybe take jobs away from Americans and just more or less exist.
00:23:38.000 That's one thing.
00:23:38.000 But it's another thing when these are people coming over who, as you mentioned, they have a very clear historic ambition to conquer the lands in which they settle.
00:23:47.000 These are people who come over and establish these kind of ethnic beachheads for themselves and even form these communities like we saw during the break with that clip from that show maybe a year or so ago where these people are coming over talking about how they're going to work to establish Muslim only communities, govern themselves.
00:24:01.000 I grew up.
00:24:02.000 In Michigan, with Dearborn in my backyard.
00:24:04.000 So I'm intimately familiar with how these people tend to conduct business when they're allowed to come over and establish these kinds of communities for themselves.
00:24:10.000 And of course, people in Europe, people in England are experiencing the same thing.
00:24:13.000 So it's not the same as just any other immigrant group coming over.
00:24:17.000 It's a very unique group in the sense that it does have political ambitions.
00:24:21.000 And as we see with the El Said campaign, this is kind of the first sign of what these people are going to look like when they get into Congress.
00:24:27.000 Perhaps we saw something with Ilhan Omar, you know, of course, representing Minnesota.
00:24:32.000 This is something that we are going to have to be very concerned about as the decade progresses.
00:24:36.000 We haven't really seen the first signs yet of what actual Muslim political organizing looks like at the federal level.
00:24:42.000 And it's certainly something that we're going to have to contend with.
00:24:45.000 Yeah, amen.
00:24:46.000 And that's the only sort of clear eyed way of viewing this situation as it emerges and grows.
00:24:52.000 So there's this other story that's now going on with Abdul El Sayed.
00:24:56.000 And again, these are the microcosms of a macro issue that we need to confront.
00:25:00.000 So Abdul El Sayed has come up with a statement.
00:25:04.000 Regarding Jeremy Moss, who is a Jewish Democrat out of Michigan, again, a state you know well.
00:25:10.000 And he is responding to comments that Hassan Piker has made, basically saying that if Moss links himself too closely with Israel, eventually somebody's going to take action.
00:25:22.000 Now, this is coming from Hassan Piker, who has said capitalist blood needs to flow in the streets.
00:25:26.000 He said people need to kill Rick Scott.
00:25:28.000 He's gloated and mocked the death of Charlie Kirk.
00:25:31.000 How many other things has he done?
00:25:32.000 He said somebody's got to do it when it comes to President Trump.
00:25:35.000 I mean, this guy openly.
00:25:38.000 Salivates when it comes to political violence.
00:25:40.000 And here he is attacking another Jewish Democrat.
00:25:44.000 And Abdul El Sayed comes out and says, while politicians and pundits try to make this race about a Twitch streamer, you know his name.
00:25:51.000 You know his name, Abdul.
00:25:54.000 We're going to be talking about gas, groceries, good schools, and health care because that's what Michiganders keep asking about.
00:26:00.000 Your reaction.
00:26:01.000 Again, they are insulting the intelligence of the American electorate.
00:26:05.000 They are being deceptive.
00:26:06.000 They're being subversive.
00:26:07.000 You know, this is not actually about.
00:26:10.000 Affordability and gas prices, and all of that.
00:26:12.000 You know, when you convey rhetoric like that, what you're trying to get at is that you really care about Americans.
00:26:17.000 You really care about the issues that matter.
00:26:19.000 But you have a curious association with a guy who not only, like, obviously is, you know, hostile to America, he said that we deserved 9 11.
00:26:26.000 This wasn't a joke.
00:26:27.000 This is something that he emphasized.
00:26:29.000 He declared it and said, Sorry, I'm going to say it the same way that we would say, Sorry, I'm going to say it.
00:26:33.000 There's two genders as if it's like an obvious truth.
00:26:36.000 He displays photos of the World Trade Center on fire, like, in the background of his little streaming setup.
00:26:41.000 So, You have an association with this guy, not just like you ran into him at a cocktail party or something and were the ones being deceptive by trying to frame it as a close association.
00:26:50.000 It's obviously a close association.
00:26:51.000 So you now have to explain to us why, out of the hundreds of millions of people we have in this country, you're like buddy-buddy with a guy who says that we deserve 9-11.
00:27:00.000 That's not exactly something I would be saying if I really did care about the voters in Michigan.
00:27:04.000 And Todd Beamer, you know, the American hero, arch-patriot, who famously led the Let's Roll charge against the hijackers of Flight 93, saving hundreds of lives, that guy was from Michigan.
00:27:14.000 So, as someone who will be voting, In elections in Michigan.
00:27:17.000 I want to know, Mr. Al Said, why is it that you have this close association with this guy who says that we deserve 9 11?
00:27:23.000 Did Todd Beamer, did he deserve to die that day?
00:27:26.000 Hassan Piker says we do, or he did deserve to die that day.
00:27:29.000 Why is that?
00:27:30.000 Why do you have that association?
00:27:31.000 It's such a good point.
00:27:32.000 Call him out on it.
00:27:33.000 Tell the story of Beamer really quick for our audience.
00:27:37.000 Yeah, the passengers of Flight 93 were understanding that the plane was being hijacked.
00:27:41.000 They were understanding that it was going to be crashed probably into a building, killing hundreds of people.
00:27:45.000 And so Todd Beamer led that charge and said, All right, let's roll.
00:27:48.000 And some of the other men on the plane went and they got the terrorists and they ransacked them and they took control of the plane.
00:27:54.000 And ultimately, they weren't able to land it successfully.
00:27:57.000 They crashed and everybody on board was killed.
00:27:58.000 But that gesture and that display of heroism saved countless lives that day.
00:28:03.000 You know, which was already a tragic day, obviously, for Americans.
00:28:07.000 And he's a Michigander.
00:28:09.000 Yes.
00:28:09.000 And yeah, so we're not just making it about some Twitch streamer, Abdul.
00:28:13.000 This is about you.
00:28:15.000 I want to play this.
00:28:15.000 This was from Jesse Waters last night.
00:28:17.000 Jesse confronted El Sayed about Hassan Piker.
00:28:22.000 Go ahead and play Sat 17.
00:28:24.000 You know, you face scrutiny for campaigning with socialist streamer Hassan Piker.
00:28:28.000 Do you plan to continue to campaign with Hassan Piker in the general election campaign?
00:28:36.000 Look, I'm less concerned now with who I'm campaigning with, a lot more concerned about who I'm campaigning to.
00:28:40.000 We've got a lot of work to do to continue to build the coalition that's going to beat Mike Rogers.
00:28:44.000 Would you welcome him, though?
00:28:47.000 On the campaign trail with you?
00:28:48.000 Like I said, I'm a lot more focused on who I'm campaigning to.
00:28:50.000 And I will tell you that the 3 million people who listen to Hassan are people I want to make sure understand that there's a pathway into our politics.
00:28:58.000 And so I'm going to continue to have the conversations with those folks who we desperately need to reach out to.
00:29:05.000 All right.
00:29:06.000 Sorry, that was a meet the press clip, but it still addressed the central claim here.
00:29:09.000 A little labeling issue.
00:29:10.000 That's all right.
00:29:11.000 So the point is if you watch the way this guy operates, he's confronted with a tough question, and he always pivots back to, I'm more concerned with gas prices and health care, and I'm going to do that.
00:29:23.000 But then he ends up telling you exactly the answer, which is, I'm not going to distance myself from Hassan Piker, and you can pound sand up yours.
00:29:31.000 I disrespect your question.
00:29:32.000 That's essentially what he does time and time again.
00:29:35.000 And we saw that with the Jesse Waters clips.
00:29:36.000 This.
00:29:37.000 This issue, though, of refusing to distance himself from Hassan Piker should be disqualifying in a sane country, John.
00:29:45.000 Yeah, you would think so.
00:29:46.000 I mean, aside from the textbook non answer, he actually reveals something in that statement, which maybe we would kind of understand better than the average listener, which is when he's saying he wants to communicate to Hassan Piker's audience that there's a pathway to politics for them.
00:29:59.000 What is that saying?
00:30:00.000 What kind of audience is Hassan Piker speaking to?
00:30:02.000 He's, of course, speaking to an audience of millions of people who are far left radicals who have largely given up on mainstream politics.
00:30:09.000 They want Capitalist blood to flow through the streets.
00:30:12.000 They celebrate when conservative figures are assassinated.
00:30:14.000 So, what this guy's trying to do is show those people hey, you don't have to give up on politics.
00:30:19.000 Trust me, there's actually a way into the system, and you guys are all welcome.
00:30:23.000 So, that's actually kind of alarming.
00:30:25.000 People should be far more alarmed by that kind of rhetoric than the stuff that he's trying to say about affordability or whatever, like managed planned economies regarding healthcare, gas prices, grocery.
00:30:36.000 The fact that he's trying to act as a kind of bottleneck, a kind of opening.
00:30:40.000 For the most radical people in the country to become more involved in mainstream politics, I think that should be very alarming.
00:30:46.000 And that he won't distance himself from somebody who's acting as the figure for that, openly, you know, LARPing his Mao Zedong.
00:30:52.000 I think that that's probably going to be the Achilles heel of the campaign if Republicans play it properly.
00:30:57.000 So, taking a step back, we're fixating on this race, but we're two months out.
00:31:07.000 It has been a challenging midterm overall.
00:31:09.000 I think, you know, we can discuss, do.
00:31:11.000 The polls peak for Democrats in August.
00:31:14.000 It looks like it has several times around, but you're a young guy.
00:31:18.000 I assume you speak to young guys, unless you're like me and all your friends are older than you.
00:31:21.000 Than you.
00:31:22.000 But what do you think should be a closing message for Republicans, for conservatives in this race and beyond to show people we're serious, we're solving problems, we deserve another two years at the helm in Washington to complete the work that President Trump has completed in these first two years?
00:31:42.000 I think that we do have to focus a lot on immigration.
00:31:45.000 I think we have to focus a lot on crime.
00:31:47.000 I mean, we're still in this kind of like Biden era, COVID era hangover in terms of things like, you know, inflation, affordability.
00:31:53.000 And so JD Vance has done a really good job messaging to people showing that this is being addressed.
00:31:58.000 We have the cost of new home purchases decreasing.
00:32:01.000 There are ways to kind of alleviate the elephant in the room being that we don't really feel like we're quite winning yet.
00:32:06.000 But the stuff that's been done with immigration, the stuff that's been done with crime is like without exaggeration, probably going to save tens of thousands of American lives.
00:32:14.000 And, you know, cities are safer.
00:32:15.000 So young people, what do they want to do?
00:32:17.000 They want to go out, they want to go to restaurants, go to bars.
00:32:19.000 They're now more able to do that in cities where prior to the second Trump administration, that would have been unheard of.
00:32:24.000 And so really kind of leaning into that, I think, is going to be effective and showing like, hey, You're able to enjoy your life again because of the work that Trump and his administration have done.
00:32:33.000 So, yeah, groceries are still more expensive than they were five years ago.
00:32:36.000 We're working on that.
00:32:37.000 However, it's not as though you would have been better off under Democrat rule.
00:32:41.000 That's obviously not the case.
00:32:42.000 And I think it'd be good to remind them of just how bad things were politically, socially, economically under the Biden era and show that, yes, while not perfect, things have drastically improved because of Donald Trump.
00:32:54.000 There was this tweet from Christian Haynes.
00:32:57.000 I follow him on X and throw it up here.
00:32:59.000 He goes, And it was, I retweeted this because I just think it's counter to the prevailing narrative right now that things are terrible and nobody's, no promises have been fulfilled and all this stuff.
00:33:11.000 And he says it's just a series of generational wins after another.
00:33:15.000 And it's like breaking, Trump confirms ICE proceedings against Ilhan Omar over alleged fraud.
00:33:20.000 Breaking, the Supreme Court allows Trump's mail in ballot restrictions to take effect.
00:33:23.000 Breaking, the Trump admin to revoke visas of up to 200,000 asylum seekers.
00:33:28.000 Breaking, Ninth Circuit says district courts can't block ICE operations.
00:33:31.000 Over past harms, breaking ICE arrest 1,328 illegals in Virginia and Maryland in just 14 days.
00:33:39.000 Okay, to your point, it has not been perfect, but quietly behind the scenes, many of the campaign promises that we've been offered in 2024 are coming true.
00:33:49.000 They're being worked on, they're being fulfilled.
00:33:51.000 And to your point, imagine the alternative.
00:33:54.000 How many millions of more illegals would have been streaming in the country had Kamala Harris won?
00:33:58.000 I don't know, maybe 5, 10 million more at this point?
00:34:03.000 What's the alternative?
00:34:04.000 How many trans surgeries for, for, at hospitals across the country?
00:34:07.000 That guy was on a debate last night when they know they've lost on that issue over and over with the public.
00:34:12.000 And he's in an interview where he could try to just say, oh, yeah, people went to woke one is crazy.
00:34:18.000 And instead, he's going full, oh, you want to intrude on families' medical decision making for mutilating six year olds?
00:34:26.000 They want to bring it back.
00:34:28.000 They will bring it back.
00:34:30.000 Woke is not defeated.
00:34:32.000 It's not abandoned.
00:34:33.000 Democrats have not decided to only focus on affordability.
00:34:37.000 Oh, All of the ideological commitments are still there and will come back.
00:34:43.000 Yeah, they haven't moderated at all, John.
00:34:45.000 No, not at all.
00:34:46.000 And yeah, by the way, when they say affordability, they don't mean better managing the economy.
00:34:51.000 They mean making things more affordable by basically giving them out for free, which of course we know doesn't actually work.
00:34:56.000 And so everything they're doing is just lying.
00:34:59.000 I guess it's just another day ending and why for the Democrats.
00:35:01.000 But yeah, everything that's been done with the Trump administration, like people who are complaining and saying that Donald Trump has betrayed us, nothing is being done.
00:35:08.000 I haven't, I've heard crickets, they haven't come out to say, wow, this is really good.
00:35:12.000 I guess I was wrong, and perhaps I'll exercise better judgment in my reactions and declarations of it being completely over.
00:35:18.000 No, they're going to just be quiet because they don't want the embarrassment.
00:35:21.000 And then the next time things don't appear to be going perfectly for us, they're going to just do the same thing the same song and dance saying it's over.
00:35:27.000 Trump betrayed us.
00:35:28.000 We have to vote for Gavin Newsom to save America and teach the GOP a lesson.
00:35:32.000 It's just completely non serious.
00:35:34.000 Now, I can understand seeing the imminent leftist counterattack and seeing that things aren't going perfectly.
00:35:40.000 I can understand expressing that and saying, hey, maybe we got to really play a perfect game here.
00:35:45.000 But just declaring that things are over the second anything doesn't go our way, which, by the way, It seems to be going our way.
00:35:50.000 Like Trump is doing something.
00:35:52.000 The courts come in and try to stop it.
00:35:54.000 His hands are tied.
00:35:55.000 I mean, what's he going to do?
00:35:55.000 And then maybe in this case, the court ends up siding with Trump, saying, You can't actually do that.
00:36:00.000 Now it's a win.
00:36:01.000 It's not as though he wasn't doing anything.
00:36:02.000 He's either doing something and it works or doing something and it's impeded, but he's working.
00:36:07.000 He's working.
00:36:08.000 We're making lots of progress, too.
00:36:10.000 John Doyle, great American patriot.
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00:38:00.000 Blake has made fun of me so much for our weekly kayfabe WNBA segment.
00:38:05.000 It's true.
00:38:05.000 I have.
00:38:06.000 But I do genuinely believe that it's more important than that.
00:38:09.000 And I'll explain why.
00:38:10.000 Because you made this point, and I think it was a really apt point in hour one when we had John Doyle on, that they are not moderating.
00:38:19.000 Abdul El Sayed was on Fox News last night, confronted about genital mutilation of minors, the trans issue.
00:38:27.000 He had the opportunity to distance himself from it.
00:38:31.000 But refuse to.
00:38:32.000 No, I'm just going to stick it out.
00:38:34.000 It's all about what the doctors want.
00:38:36.000 It's all about what the patient wants.
00:38:38.000 It's all about what the parents want.
00:38:39.000 If they say that a young boy's penis should be lopped off, a ding a ling, then that's like circumcision, Jesse.
00:38:48.000 So they aren't moderating.
00:38:49.000 And these little enclaves of cultural, I guess, woke hegemony are still operating in the open.
00:38:58.000 And one of them is the WNBA.
00:39:00.000 And so it becomes this whole bigger story now.
00:39:04.000 The WNBA has said that Royce White, who we had on the show, and Ennis Cantor Freedom are not going to be eligible to enter the WNBA.
00:39:13.000 Now, they call it a publicity, son.
00:39:16.000 That's what they told ESPN.
00:39:16.000 That's what they would say.
00:39:18.000 That is exactly what they probably called a lot of great civil rights pioneers publicity.
00:39:21.000 That's well, they actually were publicity stunts, they were in a lot of cases, yeah.
00:39:27.000 Yeah, they were actually trying to get headlines, trying to make news stories happen, and sometimes that's the way you make change and you accomplish your goals.
00:39:36.000 So now they're saying that they're not going to be allowed in the WNBA, but they can't really give you a rationale.
00:39:42.000 So, this is why you know.
00:39:45.000 I made the joke yesterday, I was like, you know, how the WNBA is run by women, not because it's the Women's National Basketball Association.
00:39:52.000 It's because they, it's like they want you to read their minds.
00:39:56.000 Like, so they go and they do this HR meeting.
00:39:59.000 They do a big consensus builder, have everybody come together to come up with a strategy on what to do with who's eligible for the WNBA.
00:40:07.000 Are we going to let biological men play in the league or not?
00:40:10.000 Well, they get done with that meeting and then they say, Well, we haven't reached a consensus yet.
00:40:16.000 We needed to get together.
00:40:18.000 We needed to feel out our feelings, basically.
00:40:20.000 Yeah.
00:40:20.000 That's what they needed to do.
00:40:22.000 It's literally.
00:40:25.000 The most predictable outcome you could imagine.
00:40:27.000 So they're consensus building.
00:40:28.000 They don't reach a consensus.
00:40:30.000 And multiple women in the WNBA have now said, we would welcome a biological man onto the court.
00:40:37.000 Well, the league says they're not going to welcome the two men that have declared eligible for the draft, and they won't give a rationale why.
00:40:45.000 Now, here's the actual explanation.
00:40:48.000 Wait, wait, hold on.
00:40:49.000 Women are mad, but they won't say why?
00:40:51.000 Yes.
00:40:52.000 Sorry, I couldn't resist.
00:40:53.000 Exactly.
00:40:54.000 Couldn't resist.
00:40:54.000 So they say here the WNBA has not announced.
00:40:58.000 Any plans?
00:41:00.000 And let me put that in there so you guys can follow along.
00:41:02.000 The WNBA has not announced any plans to prevent Ennis Cantor Freedom from attending future games after he was ejected from Wind Trust Arena in Chicago on Sunday.
00:41:10.000 But multiple sources told ESPN that the former NBA player will not be eligible to play in the Women's League.
00:41:15.000 Sources around the league confirm that Cantor Freedom and fellow former NBA player Royce White, Roycia White, as she's lovably referred to on this show, are not eligible to play in the WNBA.
00:41:25.000 And after the pair declared themselves women and eligible for the draft.
00:41:29.000 Cantor Freedom was removed from the building Sunday after a verbal altercation with Chicago Sky Point guard Natasha Cloud.
00:41:35.000 Okay.
00:41:36.000 So they don't tell you why.
00:41:38.000 They don't tell you how.
00:41:41.000 But sources are now confirming to ESPN that they will not be allowed.
00:41:45.000 So here's what the translation is They know they're not going to let them in.
00:41:50.000 They just haven't figured out what woke logic to apply to them just yet because they know that if they use certain forms of logic, it will be instantly.
00:41:58.000 Any explanation will be an instant landmine detonating for them.
00:42:02.000 Like they can't say.
00:42:03.000 Oh, we just know you're faking it because then you could apply that to so many potential sex predators who've tried to get into girls' bathrooms and the left has stood up for them.
00:42:13.000 They can't say, actually, we're only for real biological women.
00:42:18.000 That would definitely set off a landmine.
00:42:21.000 One idea might basically be we're defining women as people who just aren't, who say they're women and also just aren't too athletic such that they would beat up on all the other women in our league.
00:42:32.000 That might be the completely ridiculous strategy that they take, but it might be more viable.
00:42:38.000 The game, but then they're giving up the game.
00:42:39.000 That is, that is again, we've gotten a lot of emails from people who are very confused about us with Royce White and all of that.
00:42:45.000 Yeah, that is ultimately what is going on here.
00:42:47.000 We need to be clear for a second.
00:42:49.000 I don't know if we need to be.
00:42:50.000 Oh, do it.
00:42:51.000 Okay, maybe we shouldn't.
00:42:52.000 Whatever.
00:42:52.000 No, we had Royce White on, and she taught us a lot.
00:42:55.000 She taught us a lot.
00:42:56.000 Okay, that's all I'm gonna say.
00:42:58.000 But here's the here's what's so funny about it they've gotten themselves into an ideological cul-de-sac, and there's no real way out because if they admit that these are men, not women, then they're giving up on their whole trans.
00:43:11.000 Rights are human rights, trans women are real women, thing that they've got going.
00:43:15.000 If they admit that they have physical abilities that surpass the WNBA female players, they're giving up the game there because that proves our point that they shouldn't be allowed on the court or the volleyball court or whatever insert sport here, weightlifting.
00:43:33.000 They are actually cornered, so they don't really have a good way out.
00:43:37.000 Meanwhile, they're doubling, tripling down on insanity, which I 100% support overall because, as I said, the WNBA is not about whatever basketball they're playing on the court.
00:43:47.000 I don't care about that.
00:43:48.000 All right.
00:43:48.000 What it is, is it's amazing drama.
00:43:50.000 And in fact, this isn't even our only great drama story with the WNBA this week.
00:43:54.000 Did you know that, Andrew?
00:43:55.000 No, I know.
00:43:56.000 This is where we're going.
00:43:57.000 Yes, yes.
00:43:58.000 So I was excited to talk about this even before the drama over the weekend.
00:44:02.000 So they have a team in Toronto, of course.
00:44:05.000 I mean, imagine denying Canada a WNBA team.
00:44:08.000 They would have a meltdown.
00:44:09.000 They're called the Toronto Tempo.
00:44:11.000 And the New York Post is reporting they have unveiled a non binary turtle mascot for the Toronto Tempo.
00:44:18.000 They have two mascots, actually, they have a tortoise.
00:44:20.000 And a hair because they're called the tempo.
00:44:21.000 You can go fast or you can go slow.
00:44:23.000 And so they have Dez, the non binary tortoise mascot of their Toronto tempo, which pretty humorously, I was looking that up.
00:44:33.000 Apparently, that's actually the second non binary mascot they have in the WBA.
00:44:37.000 Doppler, the Seattle Storm mascot, according to the rapidly generated AI information that Google gives you now, is also a non binary mascot.
00:44:47.000 So this is something, if you guys have kids out there and you.
00:44:52.000 Let them watch certain shows or whatever.
00:44:54.000 This is the new angle that they play.
00:44:56.000 They use sort of cartoonish characters like this to launder in non binary ideas, ideologies, and they do it because, you know, they're not human per se.
00:45:08.000 They're human esque, but they're not human.
00:45:09.000 Maybe they're just.
00:45:10.000 I don't think turtles are non binary, right?
00:45:12.000 They're not one of those.
00:45:13.000 Like amphibians can, like, change their sex.
00:45:15.000 I don't think turtles can.
00:45:17.000 Ninja Turtles are definitely binary.
00:45:19.000 Yeah, yeah, exactly.
00:45:20.000 They like pizza.
00:45:21.000 They're dudes.
00:45:21.000 No, but this is what they do.
00:45:22.000 So this is what you really need to be careful with if you are.
00:45:26.000 Apparent out there is you need to understand that they are laundering this stuff in now through cartoon characters that don't seem they're non binary, they don't really look male or female, they're just a cartoon.
00:45:37.000 But then they'll work in certain themes.
00:45:39.000 So, this is the whole point.
00:45:41.000 We often say woke is not dead, it's just on pause right now.
00:45:46.000 And these enclaves of institutionalized woke power, like the WNBA, like the DSA, like El Sayed, they're not backing down because they think that come November they're gonna have a big blue tsunami.
00:46:00.000 It's going to take over everything, and they're going to remount their forces.
00:46:04.000 They're going to double down, and they're going to come back with a vengeance.
00:46:09.000 This is not a moderating movement.
00:46:10.000 This is a radicalizing movement.
00:46:12.000 And we all need to be very, very honest about that.
00:46:14.000 We do have the great Riley Gaines now.
00:46:17.000 Riley, welcome back to the show.
00:46:19.000 It's good to see you.
00:46:21.000 You left us hanging there for a segment, so we were just pontificating about the non binary mascots in the WNBA, which is just another weird little wrinkle to throw in there.
00:46:31.000 I want to get your whole take on.
00:46:33.000 On all that, they're saying that Ennis Cantor Freedom and Royce White are not going to be eligible.
00:46:40.000 They can't really explain a good rationale for why yet, but that's some publicity stunt.
00:46:45.000 Give us everything you're thinking, Riley Gaines.
00:46:48.000 I mean, isn't it just crazy that we are still having this conversation?
00:46:54.000 And I have to think of new ways to explain my take.
00:46:58.000 I mean, my take is the same now as it has been for the past, I mean, what, five or so years since I was personally.
00:47:06.000 And directly impacted by this issue.
00:47:08.000 I mean, for the whole lot, my whole life, I've possessed this take that men aren't women.
00:47:13.000 It's insane that the WNBA, a professional women's sports league, is having these like conference style performative meetings with C suite level executives and board members all gathered around a table to discuss what a woman is.
00:47:31.000 And they don't know.
00:47:32.000 Well, you have to assume actually that they do know, hence why now they're coming out and saying, you know, sources close to the WNBA.
00:47:38.000 I don't think it's actually been traced back directly to the WNBA.
00:47:43.000 I don't think that's been fact checked yet, but sources.
00:47:45.000 Are saying that they are close to the WNBA that now they're saying that Ennis Cantor Freedom and Royce White, or whatever name they want to identify Royce, Royce, Royce, the beautiful, brave woman, that both of these trans, black, lesbian, both of these lovely gals can't play in the WNBA and they can't fulfill their dreams of being the number one WNBA prospect at the 2027 draft.
00:48:11.000 Of course, they know that men aren't women, that boys aren't girls, that males aren't females, that fathers can't be mothers.
00:48:18.000 The WNBA knows this, just like the Democratic Party does.
00:48:21.000 But for some reason, this is the hill that they're willing to die on.
00:48:25.000 So I want you to picture, again, this conference style boardroom.
00:48:30.000 They're sitting around this table, and they're really trying to conjure up a way to say that these men, fully intact with their male genitalia and their beards and the fact that they can dunk on these 10 foot goals, they're trying to think of a way to prevent them from playing, but continue to be the most inclusive and diverse.
00:48:51.000 You insert the buzzword.
00:48:53.000 Inclusive league in the history of all the leagues, but in the process, they've just become a laughing stock, which is really tragic.
00:49:01.000 It's really unfortunate to the women, to every woman in the league, even the ones who I don't agree with, even the ones who I don't necessarily like, like Dijonet Carrington, like Natasha Cloud.
00:49:11.000 It's unfortunate for them that the league has taken this approach because it's taking the focus off of their incredible ability to play basketball at a high level and to do it well.
00:49:20.000 That's not what we're talking about.
00:49:21.000 We're talking about the trans non binary, they them turtle that likes soft tacos.
00:49:25.000 And green sex toys that are being thrown on the court, and how the refs have this profound inability to protect Caitlyn Clark and other athletes like her.
00:49:35.000 Is it because she's white?
00:49:35.000 Is it because she's straight?
00:49:37.000 Who knows?
00:49:37.000 But that's what we're talking about with this league.
00:49:39.000 It's absurd and unfair to the athletes who have worked really hard.
00:49:42.000 Blake loves that about it, by the way.
00:49:44.000 He loves the kayfabe, the WWE of it all.
00:49:47.000 He thinks it's the best thing that happened to the WNBA since they found it.
00:49:50.000 That being said, what's your take on Caitlyn Clark?
00:49:55.000 She was sort of like a cause celeb for a lot of.
00:49:57.000 Right wingers on the internet because she was obviously put upon.
00:50:00.000 She's incredibly talented.
00:50:02.000 She's been very quiet and she's, you know, kind of comes off a little cowardly.
00:50:08.000 I think people, it feels weird to say this, like they're sort of annoyed that she has focused on basketball, that they kind of want her.
00:50:17.000 They basically, she got very obviously targeted.
00:50:20.000 A lot of players in the league didn't like that she got a lot of attention, that she got paid more.
00:50:25.000 There was definitely a racial dimension to it.
00:50:27.000 And I think they wanted her to basically.
00:50:29.000 Call out what was happening and instead she sort of meekly submitted to it.
00:50:34.000 She's still good, but I think they wanted to see her fight back and they feel let down by her.
00:50:37.000 Yeah, what's your take, Riley?
00:50:38.000 You know, I think a lot of at least conversations that we see online from conservative profiles, conservative commentators, conservative influencers, they take the approach that Caitlin Clark should have this like moral obligation to speak up.
00:50:55.000 And I actually don't really agree.
00:50:57.000 I really don't.
00:50:58.000 I don't think you can volunteer someone for the position.
00:51:00.000 That I have found myself in, that Sophie Cunningham has now willingly accepted and has done so with such confidence and with such courage.
00:51:09.000 I don't think you can volunteer someone for that position.
00:51:13.000 I mean, you guys know the effects of what happens when you do, whether it's the negative comments, the false headlines, the pressure, the smear campaigns, death threats that, again, you guys can attest to that have the ability to transpire to reality for you.
00:51:30.000 I just don't think that's something that you can volunteer someone for.
00:51:33.000 I think my main problem with Caitlyn Clark in all of this isn't that she isn't necessarily taking a hard line stance because.
00:51:41.000 We can tell.
00:51:42.000 I think it's safe to assume what Caitlin Clark thinks about this issue.
00:51:46.000 I'm not going to say what I know personally and how she thinks on this issue, but it's safe to assume how she feels about this issue when asked about it.
00:51:52.000 And she doesn't, again, repeat off the talking points that they're told, I think, to say or what we're supposed to believe that the league purports and what is then representative of the general public.
00:52:05.000 Because she's not doing that, it's safe to say how she feels.
00:52:08.000 But I more so take an issue with how loyal Sophie Cunningham has been to Caitlin in her defense over the past few years.
00:52:15.000 Not just on this topic, of course, but in her defense of totally biased refs and unfair treatment, even when it comes to not being on the cover of 2K.
00:52:25.000 Caitlin Clark is there, or Sophie Cunningham is there to defend Caitlin Clark.
00:52:28.000 Well, here Sophie Cunningham has found herself in the midst of this cultural storm, and Caitlin Clark isn't there defending her friend.
00:52:34.000 Take outside the team component of it.
00:52:37.000 That's what I more so find to be a telling factor of someone's character.
00:52:43.000 But I don't falter for not wanting to speak about this issue.
00:52:46.000 I think it would just give the other side more ammo to hate her, quite frankly.
00:52:49.000 So.
00:52:50.000 I think that's really insightful.
00:52:52.000 So, you're saying about Caitlin Clark, it's the silence is almost deafening, right?
00:52:58.000 It's what she's not saying that is the tell about how she feels about this larger issue.
00:53:01.000 But you do take issue with the fact that she hasn't been more vocal, more supportive of Sophie Cunningham because Sophie Cunningham has had her back 100%.
00:53:09.000 I mean, she takes hard fouls.
00:53:11.000 She's in there.
00:53:12.000 She's like her defender.
00:53:13.000 She's getting into pointing stare offs with people that are attacking them, which is just brilliant.
00:53:19.000 So, Sophie Cunningham's stock has just been soaring.
00:53:22.000 Meanwhile, Caitlin Clarks has been falling, if I'm just calling Bobby's fault.
00:53:27.000 Is Sophie Cunningham going to take the WWE belt away from Caitlin?
00:53:31.000 I know, right?
00:53:31.000 That's your take on it.
00:53:32.000 I think she has.
00:53:33.000 I think she has.
00:53:34.000 I think Sophie Cunningham, like, if there was a favorability rating amongst players, I would say Sophie Cunningham has a higher favorability rating amongst sports fans, right?
00:53:46.000 The left doesn't like her, right?
00:53:47.000 The people who don't watch sports who have probably never played a sport, also, I think that's important to mention.
00:53:53.000 Of course, they're not going to like her.
00:53:54.000 But amongst sports fans, I can say as an SEC fan, as an SEC athlete myself, certainly among SEC fans, like her favorability rating is through the roof, and you don't see that.
00:54:06.000 I'm not kidding.
00:54:06.000 Athletes, just like politicians, like generally it's like a 50 50.
00:54:10.000 Majority of sports fans love Sophie Cunningham.
00:54:13.000 Yep.
00:54:15.000 I count myself among them, and I tell them I want to get the jerseys, the Cunningham jerseys.
00:54:19.000 We want the jerseys.
00:54:19.000 We want players who fight.
00:54:20.000 They're sold out.
00:54:22.000 They're sold out.
00:54:23.000 With the drama.
00:54:23.000 Yeah.
00:54:24.000 Amen.
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00:55:49.000 We have a very special treat in store for you.
00:55:51.000 We have two guests in studio James DeMello, founder of Andreezo Man, and Jason Wynn, CEO of Strong Cell.
00:55:58.000 And yep, there you can see them.
00:56:00.000 We have them all gathered around the table in studio.
00:56:02.000 A really, really important segment.
00:56:04.000 And we're going to talk about marriage, we're going to talk about men and the importance of all that.
00:56:08.000 James, you founded Andreezo Man to strengthen men.
00:56:13.000 And you have a really powerful testimony about what this has done for your own marriage.
00:56:17.000 And we're going to get into all of that.
00:56:19.000 But as I was prepping for this and looking at your biography, James, I was taken aback by a piece of it.
00:56:27.000 I think kind of the origin story of how you started this.
00:56:30.000 You were a professional bodybuilder, which is cool unto itself.
00:56:35.000 And then you had a near death experience, and then you were like, no, I actually died.
00:56:40.000 Let's just start there.
00:56:41.000 Okay.
00:56:43.000 Yeah, in 98, I was actually in the northern part of Michigan, and I was T bone hit by a semi.
00:56:52.000 And it broke my neck, broke my back, and I was dead at the scene when the paramedic got there, the off duty paramedic who saved my life.
00:57:00.000 And he started pulling me out and started to, as a lot of paramedics told me, it sounds like he broke a lot of rules because what he did to resuscitate me was off the normal way they did things.
00:57:14.000 But he resuscitated me, and I spent three months.
00:57:17.000 Learning how to walk again, learning how to, yeah.
00:57:20.000 Are you still able to lift?
00:57:21.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:57:22.000 I never stopped lifting.
00:57:23.000 In fact, I rehabbed myself after a month and I was out of the hospital.
00:57:28.000 They said I would never walk again because I broke the same part of my neck that Christopher Rees broke.
00:57:32.000 Remember?
00:57:32.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:57:33.000 The actor.
00:57:33.000 And he fell off the horse.
00:57:35.000 He fell off the horse.
00:57:36.000 And they said that I would never walk again because I couldn't feel my legs at the time.
00:57:40.000 Jeez.
00:57:41.000 But the paralysis was due to the bruising of my spinal cord, not the cutting of it.
00:57:47.000 Man.
00:57:48.000 Okay.
00:57:49.000 So this is all.
00:57:50.000 So how?
00:57:50.000 Okay.
00:57:51.000 Andrizo, man, you know, so there's like multiple parts here.
00:57:55.000 Why did you found it?
00:57:57.000 And what were you seeing in men that kind of inspired you to found it?
00:58:00.000 And how does your own personal biography play into that?
00:58:03.000 Yeah.
00:58:03.000 So Andrizo, first of all, means it's a Greek word for man up, basically.
00:58:08.000 Man up.
00:58:08.000 And man up.
00:58:09.000 To man up, to act like a man.
00:58:10.000 Yeah.
00:58:10.000 Matter of fact, your name, Andrew, is a derivative of Andrizo.
00:58:13.000 Well, that's why I'm extraordinarily mad.
00:58:15.000 Yeah.
00:58:16.000 That's why I'm 10 out of 10.
00:58:18.000 You probably know your name has an origin of courage.
00:58:21.000 Yes.
00:58:21.000 He's courageous.
00:58:22.000 That's what I've.
00:58:22.000 Been told, so Andrizo means courage, it means you know, bravery, it means to man up, to take responsibility.
00:58:28.000 So that's why I named it Andrizo Man, and it's it's out of scripture, it's in First Corinthians 16 13.
00:58:34.000 Um, you know, Paul said it to his men that were acting immature, he said Andrizo up, and they they translated it into Greek that.
00:58:42.000 And so, um, so that's kind of the origin of the name.
00:58:46.000 I started it because, as you know, like you said, my background was bodybuilding, I was turning pro, never got to professional level, but I was at a pro level when God started to.
00:58:56.000 Called me out of it.
00:58:58.000 And the reason why is that I had built all this identity, all this physical body, but I knew inside I wasn't the man that I needed to be.
00:59:07.000 I knew that my soul was not at the level of my body.
00:59:11.000 Yeah.
00:59:12.000 And we're spirit, soul, and body.
00:59:13.000 And so I started realizing that I was very mature, very insecure.
00:59:17.000 There's a lot of things about me.
00:59:19.000 My marriage was in trouble.
00:59:21.000 And I was like, I have to change things, I have to find out how to develop the man from the inside out.
00:59:26.000 And so that kind of started my journey into what developed into the Andrizo Man Ministries.
00:59:31.000 Yeah, it's interesting because Paul talks about, he says, you know, physical exercise is of some worth.
00:59:36.000 Yeah.
00:59:36.000 But it's not eternal.
00:59:38.000 It's not of eternal worth.
00:59:39.000 Exactly.
00:59:40.000 And you were sort of the living embodiment of that admonition.
00:59:44.000 Great connection there.
00:59:46.000 Yeah.
00:59:47.000 Okay.
00:59:47.000 So you have this thing called the return.
00:59:51.000 Yeah.
00:59:51.000 And this is really near and dear to my heart.
00:59:54.000 And I will tell you, everything we've gone through losing Charlie, people often ask Blake and I, like, how did you get through it?
01:00:00.000 How are you dealing with it?
01:00:02.000 And I always tell everybody, first and foremost, it's my faith.
01:00:05.000 I feel God.
01:00:06.000 I feel the prayers of strangers.
01:00:08.000 But secondly, it is my wife and my marriage.
01:00:13.000 Our marriage has been the bedrock of everything that we've been able to get through in the hard times.
01:00:19.000 So the return is specifically helping men with their marriages.
01:00:25.000 Yeah, with their faith, with their marriage, with their.
01:00:28.000 Talk about it.
01:00:28.000 Everything, their fitness, all of that, their finances.
01:00:32.000 You know, what I've learned is, man, you can have all the other things right.
01:00:36.000 You can have your finances right.
01:00:37.000 You can have your.
01:00:38.000 Your fitness is right, like I had, but if your faith ain't right and your family ain't right, all the other stuff is suffering eventually.
01:00:46.000 And so it's just prioritizing again, getting your faith.
01:00:50.000 I grew up in church, but I never grew up in Christ.
01:00:53.000 I say that often.
01:00:54.000 I never knew Christ as the example of the ultimate man.
01:00:59.000 And that's when that happened, when he became, I often say Christ likeness and manhood are synonymous, you can't separate them.
01:01:06.000 And so I realized that I needed to follow this man, I needed to know how he.
01:01:12.000 How he walked, how he prayed.
01:01:15.000 And that just changed me completely.
01:01:17.000 And it transformed my marriage.
01:01:19.000 So, you have been through the return.
01:01:23.000 I have, yeah.
01:01:25.000 So, the best way to explain what it is is what is it?
01:01:29.000 Like, what is the return and what did it do for your marriage?
01:01:32.000 Yeah, I would say, in a nutshell, it's a four day men's intensive, right?
01:01:38.000 Where you go out into a beautiful part of East Texas.
01:01:42.000 In Piney Woods, and it's a very serene, just very peaceful place to go to, first of all, which so much of us don't get that type of space and that time to really unplug and really be with ourselves outside of the city and all the things that we do.
01:01:56.000 So you go there, surrounded by a group of 14 to 16 brothers that are just like you and some that are very different.
01:02:03.000 They're all walks of life, and you really just dive in and peel back the layers of who you are as a man.
01:02:09.000 I didn't think that I had some big problem when I went there.
01:02:12.000 And I didn't think that my marriage was on the rocks.
01:02:14.000 What I tell people is that it just gave me the tools that I didn't know that I needed, actually, for things that were coming around the corner, for me to be able to navigate those things in marriage.
01:02:23.000 How to be a better father, how to be a better just support system for my wife and for our marriage, how to pray with our kids, how to lead my family.
01:02:33.000 So it's amazing in that way.
01:02:36.000 But you said, you credit it.
01:02:37.000 So that's interesting.
01:02:38.000 So you went to it and you weren't at a point in your life where you're like, hey, my marriage is on the rocks.
01:02:43.000 But at least you didn't realize if it was or not.
01:02:46.000 But you said things came around the corner.
01:02:47.000 It was almost like God prepared you for what was coming next.
01:02:51.000 Talk to me a little bit about that.
01:02:52.000 Yeah, you know what's funny is I didn't, there weren't things that I could put on, say my marriage was on the rocks.
01:02:57.000 But what I, some of the tools that I learned on how to support my wife, how to pray with her, and how to be with her, I didn't know that my wife was always wanting those things and waiting on, you know, the better man in me to come out, if you will.
01:03:10.000 And it took God really just putting those things into my heart and showing me, you know, through the return that allowed me to become the man.
01:03:17.000 She says that it was always in there and she knew it was in me, but the return helped bring it out.
01:03:22.000 You arrive on Wednesday.
01:03:24.000 That's beautiful, by the way.
01:03:25.000 You arrive on a Wednesday.
01:03:27.000 Yeah.
01:03:27.000 It's a Thursday now.
01:03:28.000 Oh, is it Thursday?
01:03:29.000 Thursday through Sunday.
01:03:29.000 Thursday through Sunday.
01:03:30.000 Okay.
01:03:31.000 So, why do you need so much time?
01:03:33.000 Well, or maybe it's not that much time.
01:03:34.000 What is filling the time?
01:03:35.000 Yeah.
01:03:36.000 Because you heard the statement men have a lot of, they're like onions.
01:03:38.000 You've got to peel a lot of layers.
01:03:40.000 Yeah, fair enough.
01:03:40.000 Yeah.
01:03:40.000 So, it takes time to, we don't just go for it right from the beginning.
01:03:44.000 We peel the layers back.
01:03:47.000 And so, it takes time to do that.
01:03:49.000 And we create a lot of space for men to spend time alone and contemplating and thinking.
01:03:55.000 And so, there's a lot of, Woods time.
01:03:57.000 We go out in the woods and we spend time.
01:03:59.000 We let them go and spend.
01:04:00.000 There's a whole day where they do that.
01:04:03.000 And so that's probably their favorite day because they get to spend some time alone and they get to think through things.
01:04:09.000 That's very, dude.
01:04:10.000 Yeah.
01:04:11.000 Exactly.
01:04:11.000 Because if I'm just hearing this, I'm like, I don't know if I want to go get touchy-feely with a bunch of dudes.
01:04:18.000 But now you're telling me I get to spend time alone without kids, answering emails, things like that.
01:04:23.000 I get to.
01:04:25.000 Now you've piqued my attention.
01:04:26.000 Oh, yeah.
01:04:27.000 We do a lot of guy stuff.
01:04:28.000 We throw.
01:04:29.000 Hatchets, we throw spears, we shoot.
01:04:32.000 I mean, it's not all sitting around talking.
01:04:35.000 It's a lot of due time.
01:04:37.000 It's a lot of brotherhood building.
01:04:40.000 Which is really important.
01:04:41.000 So important.
01:04:42.000 Most men don't realize how little of that they have in their life and how healing and good and enriching it can be for that.
01:04:49.000 The hardest thing for me was to turn back on my phone.
01:04:53.000 To re-enter the world was very difficult because I felt it's such peace out there.
01:04:57.000 I wish I had a few more days to stay.
01:04:58.000 And you're getting a phone call from me.
01:05:00.000 Being like, hey, I'm running out of strong, so I'll get right on that.
01:05:06.000 So, okay.
01:05:07.000 I got to believe that when these men get out there, you've probably encountered some pretty radical moments with them in the sense that maybe they start hearing from the Lord for the first time.
01:05:17.000 Oh, yeah.
01:05:18.000 Or maybe they have to confront some sin.
01:05:21.000 Yeah.
01:05:21.000 You're hitting them all.
01:05:23.000 Yeah.
01:05:23.000 Absolutely.
01:05:24.000 Yeah.
01:05:26.000 That's a big part of it is when they encounter God, there's not a man alive that encounters God that doesn't change.
01:05:33.000 Right?
01:05:33.000 So we give them.
01:05:35.000 We create the space for that.
01:05:36.000 We create the atmosphere for that.
01:05:38.000 We lay the table out for that.
01:05:41.000 And it's their choice if they're going to start taking those in.
01:05:44.000 And when they do, it's amazing to see men come back from what we call the wilderness day.
01:05:50.000 That's what we call the day they go out.
01:05:52.000 They come back and they're like, I feel like, I think I heard God.
01:05:56.000 And they start describing it.
01:05:57.000 I go, man, that is all God.
01:06:00.000 And they go, man, that was so easy.
01:06:02.000 I go, yeah, you shut everything down.
01:06:05.000 You took the distractions out of the way.
01:06:07.000 God doesn't fight all of that.
01:06:08.000 He waits for you to initiate that.
01:06:10.000 Yeah, this is interesting because we talk a lot about on this show about what smartphones are doing to kids.
01:06:15.000 Yeah.
01:06:17.000 We don't talk a lot about what they are doing to grown men.
01:06:19.000 Absolutely.
01:06:19.000 Like a giant, deafening noise at all times.
01:06:22.000 Yes.
01:06:23.000 100%.
01:06:23.000 Distracting you from stuff that really matters.
01:06:26.000 And it's the strategy of the enemy.
01:06:27.000 He knows that.
01:06:28.000 He knows that if he can distract you, he can keep you from hearing that.
01:06:32.000 What we know is a still small voice, right?
01:06:35.000 The Bible talks about that.
01:06:36.000 And so Kierkegaard talks about that too.
01:06:37.000 He talks about the diversion.
01:06:39.000 Diversion is a tool of the enemy.
01:06:41.000 100%.
01:06:42.000 Yeah.
01:06:43.000 It is his hammer.
01:06:44.000 It's his hammer, man.
01:06:45.000 It's distractions.
01:06:46.000 And so we have to be intentional, and that's what we help these men learn the tools of being intentional.
01:06:51.000 That they can, the same tools we give them on the event, they can take home and apply it and spend time with God.
01:06:59.000 But you got to make the time for it, and you got to see the need for it.
01:07:04.000 So when we create this, one of the things we do that's very special is that men need a place where they feel safe, where they can talk about things and not be judged.
01:07:13.000 And we do a thing, no stones here, and that we're all equal.
01:07:17.000 We're all men.
01:07:18.000 We all have issues.
01:07:19.000 We're all dealing with stuff.
01:07:20.000 At different levels.
01:07:22.000 So let's talk about these deep needed conversations.
01:07:26.000 I call them dangerous.
01:07:27.000 Dangerous conversations that men don't really feel at ease at talking about it at work or at their business or with their wife.
01:07:35.000 So we say, let's do it here because you're safe here.
01:07:40.000 And men start to open up, and it's a beautiful thing.
01:07:43.000 Yeah.
01:07:43.000 We talked a lot about it's the marriage retreats to help with marriages for married men, and that is incredibly important.
01:07:49.000 Your chief goal in any marriage is to help your spouse get.
01:07:53.000 To heaven.
01:07:54.000 I'm not married.
01:07:55.000 Yeah.
01:07:56.000 Does Andreas of Anne have a role for me?
01:07:58.000 Absolutely.
01:07:59.000 Yeah.
01:08:00.000 We have a lot of men that are not married that go to it.
01:08:02.000 And, you know, when a man understands what a real man is supposed to be like, he becomes a lot more attractive.
01:08:10.000 You know what I mean?
01:08:11.000 Because that's the thing I was telling Andrew that manhood has been, you see it inside, they're trying to redefine it.
01:08:18.000 So the return is returning back to the original blueprint that God created men.
01:08:22.000 So we help men understand.
01:08:23.000 I wrote a whole book.
01:08:24.000 Andrizo Man is about being that man that God wants you to be.
01:08:28.000 What are some concepts about the original blueprint?
01:08:32.000 So, one of the things that Paul, when he used the word Andrizo, he gave five principles to what that looks like.
01:08:39.000 A man is a man that is responsible, he's vigilant.
01:08:43.000 First thing Paul deals with is vigilance.
01:08:45.000 Then he deals with faith, a man of strong faith.
01:08:49.000 Then he deals with a man of courage.
01:08:52.000 He says, You must be a man of courage.
01:08:53.000 Then he deals with a man of character.
01:08:56.000 A man of character and he deals with a man of compassion.
01:08:59.000 He hits these five things about manhood that I believe is one of the greatest principles of a quality man, which if you carry that, that wife is around the corner.
01:09:09.000 I tell men, the woman that you're waiting for, God's waiting for you to become the man that she needs.
01:09:14.000 Absolutely.
01:09:15.000 And so I help you become that man that she needs.
01:09:18.000 So guys say, I want that Proverbs 31 woman.
01:09:20.000 I go, well, wait a minute.
01:09:22.000 Look at the man in that chapter, become that man, and you'll get that woman.
01:09:27.000 So, you want the woman, but God ain't going to be unfair to her and give her the man that's not ready for her.
01:09:33.000 So, that's one of the ways we help them.
01:09:36.000 And just help guys with their struggles.
01:09:39.000 All men have struggles, and we help them get solutions to those struggles and how to be able to walk this manhood journey stronger.
01:09:48.000 It's really important because part of the debate about what masculinity even is, right?
01:09:52.000 We talk about what is a woman.
01:09:54.000 Well, there's an equally important question what is a man?
01:09:56.000 And part of the conversation seems to center around, you know, it's about money, dominance.
01:10:01.000 Power, you know, aggression, how big are your muscles?
01:10:05.000 And then the other one, you know, just sort of has this image, I think, of a man as this sort of weak beta male that's just very compliant.
01:10:12.000 But it's like the biblical model for masculinity is neither of those two things.
01:10:16.000 No.
01:10:18.000 And that's exactly, I mean, you nailed it.
01:10:19.000 You know, I had the muscles, I had the strength, I had the power, I had the fame, the money, and all of that.
01:10:25.000 And I had a young marriage.
01:10:26.000 To tell you a little bit about my story, I had a young marriage, and I'm living in Venice Beach, the mecca of bodybuilding at the time.
01:10:31.000 I used to live in Venice Beach.
01:10:32.000 You know, you did.
01:10:33.000 So I lived right there in Sunset Boulevard.
01:10:36.000 Worked at Gold's Gym, the most famous gym in the world.
01:10:38.000 I used to work at Gold's Gym.
01:10:39.000 Yeah, I've been to that Gold's Gym too.
01:10:41.000 And so Arnold was there, Lufrig, all these guys that were my heroes.
01:10:44.000 But I started looking at their lifestyle.
01:10:46.000 I'm like, you know, I don't know if I want to live that way and have that kind of character.
01:10:51.000 But the big thing that hit me was, you know, I had all this stuff in my marriage and was struggling.
01:10:56.000 I went out with a friend one night.
01:10:58.000 We started drinking.
01:10:59.000 Next thing I know, a pretty girl comes in.
01:11:01.000 One of the guys goes, man, I bet you can't get her.
01:11:04.000 And without even thinking, I'm walking up to this girl, flirting with her, and I leave with her.
01:11:09.000 And now I'm in a situation.
01:11:11.000 I go, how did I get here?
01:11:13.000 What led me to this place?
01:11:14.000 You know?
01:11:15.000 And come back, I'm feeling bad about it.
01:11:19.000 Tell my wife, it crushes her.
01:11:22.000 She walks out.
01:11:23.000 I'm 21 years old when that happens.
01:11:26.000 And I start falling apart because I realized that was the most important thing in my life.
01:11:31.000 And I just lost it because of a stupid decision I made.
01:11:35.000 And from that point on, I said, I have to start learning what led me to that, what weakness was in me that I didn't know.
01:11:42.000 And that's when today I'm married for 37 years.
01:11:45.000 I have raised three wonderful girls that are.
01:11:47.000 Doing great, that are married to great guys.
01:11:50.000 And my marriage is incredible, but it took a new man to build the marriage I have now.
01:11:57.000 And that was a mistake that a lot of men make and continue to keep making because they don't understand the weaknesses in them that they just kind of glaze over and press down, right?
01:12:10.000 And so I help them recognize it, I help them discern mindsets and habits that our upbringing ingrained in us, you know.
01:12:19.000 There's things about my upbringing that was very dysfunctional that my father was a terrible example to me that I look back and I go, man, that's not how a man acts.
01:12:29.000 And so I had to go search for it.
01:12:31.000 And I was lucky to have mentors come in my life to help me, but I was also lucky to have.
01:12:36.000 By the way, the mentor thing is so huge.
01:12:40.000 And that's really what you're offering.
01:12:41.000 You're offering men an opportunity to be mentored and some stuff.
01:12:44.000 Mentorship is so critically important.
01:12:46.000 Well, that's a great opportunity to Lupin, who we were all friends with, Charlie, that one of his greatest strengths.
01:12:53.000 That I think is underappreciated is his absolute hunger for mentorship.
01:12:57.000 That the sheer number of people he knew and looked up to, imitated, sought lessons from, learned from.
01:13:04.000 People would ask what he was doing in his private life, and it was often talking to someone like Dennis Prager or this pastor or someone who'd, or James Orr, and just learn from them all the time, voraciously.
01:13:15.000 That he was never a person who envied someone who had something he didn't have.
01:13:18.000 He would always think, How can I get what that person has by learning from them?
01:13:21.000 And so the key here is you got to be intentional about it.
01:13:24.000 So if you want to get better, you want to, if you're having.
01:13:27.000 Problems with your marriage, or your marriage is flat, but you're not really having outright problems, or if you just feel flat, if this is like stirring your soul right now, this is really amazing.
01:13:36.000 So, Strong Cell, we work with you guys, we love you guys, and you're coming alongside, and you've lived this firsthand.
01:13:43.000 This changed your life.
01:13:44.000 And I don't know, maybe it's part of the origin story of Strong Cell.
01:13:48.000 I didn't ask you, but you guys are partnering with Andrizo, man.
01:13:51.000 Tell us what you guys are prepared to do right now.
01:13:54.000 Yeah.
01:13:54.000 So, specifically for the show and our partnership with you all, we are willing for anyone who goes and signs up.
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01:14:14.000 That's the, so if you want to do this, it's a Thursday through a Sunday.
01:14:21.000 You get to hang out with like minded guys.
01:14:23.000 It's an intentional time of being poured into, working on some stuff.
01:14:27.000 And if your heart is stirring right now, I mean, that's, so final pitch to you.
01:14:31.000 So Andrizoman.com code Charlie.
01:14:34.000 Strong Cell is graciously going to contribute 50% if you sign up with that code right now, which is an incredible, incredible gesture.
01:14:40.000 Thank you for that.
01:14:41.000 Absolutely.
01:14:41.000 Final pitch to the men who are maybe listening right now.
01:14:44.000 You know, Strong Cell will help you with your physical body, strengthen that.
01:14:48.000 We will help strengthen your spiritual body.
01:14:51.000 We'll help strengthen the man that's going to help you through the crisis in life.
01:14:55.000 And we create this brotherhood that men need a brotherhood that hears them, makes them feel a sense of a new cause in their life, a new purpose in their life.
01:15:07.000 And if you're out there and you need that, you need to know what it means to be a man and what it means to be a man.
01:15:13.000 A good husband, a good businessman, a good man in general, we can help you with that.
01:15:19.000 Absolutely.
01:15:20.000 Critically important.
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01:15:25.000 Thank you.
01:15:26.000 Absolutely.
01:15:27.000 My pleasure.
01:15:27.000 God bless you guys.
01:15:28.000 We'll see you tomorrow.
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