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00:02:09.000Hey, everybody, welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:02:11.000With us is a friend of mine, someone who's been very generous to Turning Point USA, and he's a great American, Jim Lehman, and you're running for U.S. Senate in Arizona.
00:02:19.000Charlie, it's time for Washington to see some real action on the U.S. Senate floor.
00:02:24.000Somebody that's really going to stand up for America First, Arizona.
00:02:28.000I'm going there to make sure it happens.
00:02:38.000Eight years ago, we brought in great guys from the coal and gas industry, which I had led for many years.
00:02:45.000Second largest company in that industry was fortunate to not start it, but build it to what it was.
00:02:53.000And then bringing those guys over, seeing an opportunity that said there's a new form of energy that if we focus with utility types, really strong power people, not looking at it as a greeny thing, but looking at it as a power thing, that we have the potential for it to become the lowest cost power of the grid.
00:03:42.000We should absolutely not be doing what the Biden and Kelly administration are doing now, begging Saudi Arabia for more fuel and just crazy things like that when we've got it all here.
00:04:04.000I was talking to the energy guy, the mining guys down in Nogales, that we have some of the largest deposits in the world of manganese that were sitting under, quote, forest service land.
00:04:14.000It's our land as citizens that we've got to begin to figure out how we're going to make sure that happens to extract it.
00:04:21.000The beginning job at $78,000 as a machinery operator.
00:05:01.000But so such a learning experience that if you put your mind to it and soul and guts and the whole package and you go after it every day to be a national champion, not to win a game, just.
00:08:06.000And by the way, getting some really strong influence coaching and understanding in depth of the border situation myself from the fact being endorsed by the National Board of Patrol Council, all 21,000 members endorsed me the earliest ever.
00:08:26.000They are front and center in policy because I look at it, Charlie, as I'm coming to the table as the leader and the strategic guy in this beautiful team, just like you build in a business where you got the best expert in engineering or construction, those type of things.
00:08:42.000The same way is it with Brandon on the border.
00:08:46.000Each individual of our policies, about 20, by the way, we're building on our website even to let people know that we're not going to do, say, one thing and do another, is having those experts with us so that we absolutely, we've got to go work our tails off.
00:09:00.000You know, we're not going there to take vacations.
00:09:03.000We're going there to get business done for the people of Arizona in this country.
00:09:13.000Because it seems that there's been a lot of promises made.
00:09:15.000So, for example, President Trump, who you and I both admire greatly and you supported generously throughout the campaign and bundled a lot of money for him, he was not able to get the Senate partners to build his border wall.
00:09:29.000Is that something that you would openly support?
00:10:52.000They see morale down significantly because things like the border.
00:10:56.000They're supposed to keep our streets safe, yet we've got crime rampant because they open border in large part.
00:11:03.000These things, Charlie, are straightforward, America-first items, common sense, and get back to doing what Americans and Arizona folks here expect me to do.
00:11:12.000Well, and I'm really worried about Arizona for a variety of reasons.
00:11:22.000And the streets are safe and clean, but you're starting to see things change.
00:11:26.000An increase in panhandling, 2 a.m., 3 a.m. being woken up by cop cars going by.
00:11:34.000Not to say that's necessarily anything new, but there's been an increase in crime in certain areas, and it's really, it's bothering normal people in Arizona, which has always been a very family-friendly state.
00:11:46.000And you built a business here, you know, you built a whole life here.
00:11:49.000Talk about kind of the Arizona way of life.
00:12:16.000I go out to the job sites and I understand where people's heads are at relative to the country.
00:12:21.000No one wants the depression in wages that open border brings.
00:12:25.000American citizens should all be able to climb the economic ladder that we should be able to provide for them.
00:12:31.000And we're seeing that a lot in Arizona because we're such a funnel, such a conduit because our border is so open across our beautiful state.
00:12:40.000The drug centers that are here that are funneling it across the country.
00:12:45.000That's just not what Arizona is about.
00:12:47.000I have a vision that in, again, being very hands-on and spending a fair amount of time in Nogalis and Yuma and Tucson, they want the same things that we want in Scottsdale or in Lake Havasu.
00:13:00.000They want their kids to grow up, enjoy great schools, have access to good medical care, have safe streets, safe homes, have an aspiration of moving up the ladder economically.
00:13:12.000The Biden-Kelly guys are totally trying to destroy that with their open border globalist policies, bringing it back to America first, manufacturing back to America, which I'd love to talk a little bit about.
00:13:37.000But have the guts to go to the U.S. Senate floor and demand that that occur for our citizens versus the sellout that occurs so often, Communist Chinese Party and others.
00:13:47.000In both parties, by the way, Republican and Democrat.
00:15:08.000And especially you've created manufacturing jobs and things that are finite.
00:15:15.000I have to say that technology is not important, but you see the, you've probably, as a businessman, especially up until you sell your business, you saw the increase of prices and how inflation was impacting regular people.
00:15:29.000Talk a little bit about that and then talk about what the U.S. Senate needs to do to restore faith and confidence in the U.S. dollar because we have a 10% trim right now, a year, on the value of the U.S. dollar.
00:15:42.000Playing right up out of the Chinese Communist Party playbook.
00:15:46.000The value of the dollar had the wand as a global currency.
00:15:49.000And unfortunately, it's going to be potentially game over for our currency when that occurs.
00:16:23.000Do we help a little bit more on upfront cash flow because they wanted to keep those jobs?
00:16:27.000You're going to see some beautiful testimonials of myself against Mark Kelly about American jobs created in manufacturing and services versus his sellout to China.
00:16:39.000By doing that, we secured our supply chains, which has gone crazy as well as inflation.
00:16:45.000By buying with these vendors, when they have price increases they must pass on, we understand that, but they don't gouge because they know we've helped them build their companies, expand their companies, and they've been partners all along the way, right here in America.
00:17:01.000And in a solar industry, which China provides many of the products globally, we were able to get that at the time of seller company.
00:17:08.000We were down to 5% of Chinese manufactured goods.
00:17:12.000And even in that percentage, we were looking at acquiring American manufacturing to take that to zero.
00:17:20.000So the American currency of what debt we have now, these crazy numbers that the politicians have racked up, causing tremendous pressure on the currency.
00:17:29.000Another policy going to the Senate is live within our means.
00:19:07.000I volunteer for it, and I want to help our country.
00:19:10.000So you know a fair amount about infrastructure, and there was this infrastructure package that was passed, which we were very critical of on the show.
00:19:20.000Would that be something you would support?
00:19:46.000Going into the general fund and do everything else.
00:19:49.000I read Sonema's text or her story on infrastructure, and literally, over the 10-year period, there was only $7 billion going to come to Arizona anyway.
00:19:59.000I mean, my goodness, a drop-in-the-bucket to the trillions plus that they have authorized to go into, gosh knows, things that have nothing to do with what we as Americans would want to see in our airports, roads, and bridges and things of that nature.
00:20:15.000Airport's a good example of how a bond issue works.
00:20:18.000You know, Americans buy those bonds and we update our airports and they get a little revenue stream back.
00:20:34.000All of this other stuff, the Green New Deal and all this craziness that they talk about.
00:20:38.000Solar, as I said earlier, we've already driven utility scale, big scale.
00:20:43.000It doesn't need more government interference, more government push.
00:20:46.000The private sector has that and running with it under President Trump beautifully.
00:20:51.000The only government interference I'd have with solar is that they should be made in America, not mainland China, is that we need to manufacture our products here.
00:21:00.000President Trump's tariffs, and going back to the big picture of manufacturing, bringing manufacturing back to America, in that scenario where those tariffs were placed, it brought manufacturing in solar panels back in part into the U.S.
00:21:15.000And, of course, we have panels we were requiring in Europe.
00:21:19.000My view of China and India or others is that they need to play with a level playing field.
00:21:26.000American businesses have to have reasonable pollution standards, reasonable workplace safety rules, reasonable wages and insurance, and et cetera.
00:21:35.000If you don't comply with that internationally, then you've got to pay the toll before it comes on shore.
00:22:44.000We've got great talent here, great universities here, great technical schools, great climate.
00:22:51.000As you can see with Taiwan bringing their facilities here, there's so many other industries right here in Arizona, particularly, I'm a big proponent, as I've told the folks down in Ogalis and Yuma and Tucson, in the rural areas, in Payson, and in places where we want our kids to grow up in Arizona and stay there.
00:23:14.000Don't need everyone coming into Scottsdale and Phoenix.
00:23:18.000Let's have this beautiful state that has manufacturing spread all over it and bring it back because we level the playing field.
00:23:24.000And that to me is a core principle of a U.S. senator to put America first.
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00:25:12.000So, one of the things a senator is able to do is authorize oversight and kind of look at federal bureaucracies or agencies or spending bills.
00:25:19.000There's been almost no oversight done recently because of Chuck Schumer and all of that.
00:25:24.000One of the issues that is a big concern to our viewers and our listeners is something that is one of the chapters in the saga that happened recently with the head of the Scottsdale Unified School District Board, Jan Michael Greenberg, who was issuing dossiers on parents locally.
00:25:40.000Maybe illegally, definitely unethical, and that shouldn't be on a school board.
00:25:44.000That's done in tandem with Merrick Garland, the Attorney General of the United States, who authorized the Department of Justice, Department of Homeland Security to use the Patriot Act against moms and dads.
00:25:53.000Will you, as a U.S. Senator, prioritize finding out what happened with Merrick Garland, the AG, because we are seeing the almost criminalization of parents because they dare ask questions about their kids' education?
00:26:07.000Great point, and an urgency for our country.
00:26:13.000Amanda Rea and the parents who have stood up, I've supported them Foursquare and in terms of their efforts.
00:26:18.000We've rallied with them, I've promised them financial support if they decide they need to go after the school board in order to get justice.
00:26:31.000Another corollary, Charlie, is a beautiful thing occurring in our state where parents are rising up to take over those school board positions.
00:26:39.000That's going to be a beautiful thing coming up in this next election as we see that occur.
00:26:44.000I've had my team of these many endorsements that I've been fortunate to garner in this election and asking them in the Department of Justice: what is it that at the core we want them to continue to do, and what do we not want them to do?
00:27:01.000Because they've just grown and expanded so much.
00:27:03.000They've used the tragedy of 9-11, right, when we needed some more surveillance to now get into the private lives of America, which was never intended for that.
00:27:12.000And if we've got to de-sculpt that and bring it back, which I believe we do, then that's got to be a priority.
00:27:17.000And those people who have chased General Flynn versus Hillary Clinton, what better example do you have of the miscarriage of justice and not going after Hunter Biden?
00:27:29.000And not going after Hunter, going after parents.
00:27:33.000I mean, the insanity is, Charlie, what has awakened me to not just support conservatives very generously financial over the years for America First folks, but to get into this race and to beat Mark Kelly because you're going to need people in the Senate floor.
00:28:24.000I'm fortunate to bring a staff, as I mentioned, with Brandon Judd and those type of people in each position that I will be able to help tremendously, I believe, to get things going.
00:28:33.000Well, that kind of oversight is necessary, as you well know.
00:28:35.000And we need senators who are willing to overturn the tables.
00:28:39.000And I mean, we would love nothing more than for Arizona's own senator to become known as the oversight guy for the border and for the education issue, especially.
00:28:50.000So I want to talk about another issue that's a big concern to a lot of people, which is vaccine mandates, our response to the virus, not finding the originations of the virus from China, not looking into it.
00:29:05.000And something that is not always talked about is that we've had an upside-down wealth transfer of $3.8 trillion that I'm sure you benefited from and others did.
00:29:17.000But muscular class workers, they were locked down and they weren't able to have the same sort of, you know, I don't want to say opportunities, but there's no doubt that the lockdowns helped the rich.
00:29:27.000And I'm not to say that no one deserved to benefit from it, but at the same time, that sort of government interference has created a real lopsided economic condition for some people.
00:29:37.000Do you think our response to the virus is appropriate?
00:29:39.000And what will you do as senator to try to basically right the wrongs?
00:29:43.000Let me go all the way back to what I think is the root of that evil, and that is Communist Chinese Party.
00:31:00.000So in looking at that situation, that's kind of that core root book that I want to bring those kinds of big ideas and must do things to the U.S. Senate floor.
00:31:11.000Then we've got to get back to the working man and woman in this country.
00:31:16.000That's my priority, just like in rural Arizona.
00:31:20.000That's my priority, is that get it back to those who work with our hands.
00:31:24.000I've got a special muscular class members.
00:31:30.000My first job of shoveling manures and Alabama.
00:31:35.000The point is that those are the people who pay the taxes, who deserve that hand up.
00:31:41.000We must get away from this two-class system.
00:31:43.000It's got to be participatory by everybody in this country who believes that they can climb the economic ladder, as I've been fortunate and blessed to do.
00:31:51.000So one of the things that is confusing people is this worker shortage.
00:33:33.000This is my money and those of Arizona and across this country who want a U.S. senator that will be America first, will stand up for them, will fight for them.
00:33:44.000And if I got to have Herschel come alongside and we got to go too wide and go up the middle, that's what we've got to do.
00:33:51.000Because we've got to refocus on America.
00:33:54.000We can't keep kicking these cans down the road, or there's not going to be a road.
00:33:59.000This is really time-certain in this election upcoming versus Communist Chinese Party and their minions in Biden and Kelly and these others who are selling out our country.
00:34:11.000It's very obvious with the votes they take.
00:34:18.000The first thing is one of the things a senator is tasked with is personnel and approving and staffing a government for the Biden regime or not.
00:35:16.000It was written with a lot of great insight with a lot of people who love this country and a good Lord that helped them through the writing of that.
00:36:15.000America first, not China, not anyone else.
00:36:19.000And that's a pretty common sense approach that it doesn't take much to judge people in terms of being approving or not approving in government positions.
00:36:27.000So the last thing I want to ask you about is the importance of this race.
00:36:30.000And I'll just kind of clarify this for our audience because there'll be people listening to this all across the country.
00:36:34.000Arizona currently has two Democrat senators and Biden won.
00:36:39.000I put it in parentheses, air quotes, because whatever.
00:36:42.000You know, I'm not so sure of that, but whatever.
00:36:46.000And so Mark Kelly and Kirsten Sinema, Mark Kelly's up right now.
00:36:51.000If we want to take back the Senate, there is no path to do that without defeating Mark Kelly.
00:36:56.000Talk about the national importance of Arizona and then talk a little bit about Mark Kelly, why he's so vulnerable and why we must defeat him.
00:37:10.000With our ads that are beginning to air present day and will go all the way through the election, there will be no doubt in the minds of Arizona what the contrast between layman policy and Mark Kelly are.
00:37:50.000And you're going to see all those type of contrasts with the endorsements that have come our way aplenty with even today, American Conservative Union, CPAC, Matt, Mercedes-Slapp, Matt Whitaker, and you'll see dozens of others on our website.
00:38:09.000That's what I intend is to understand this race in policy of what Arizona and America want to put America first.
00:38:57.000I mean, Charlie, you know, I ask even the organizers of the meeting, if it's a club meeting or an LD meeting or things of that nature, could you look up and see what the audience was exactly one year ago?
00:39:08.000Our audiences are running 40% greater than the presidential election year.
00:39:13.000And we're bringing that because we're speaking to the people who want someone who will say now what they'll do, mean it, Stay the same in the general and stay the same in the U.S. Senate floor, which I intend very strongly to do.
00:39:28.000And someone who will fight for them, someone not going to roll over, someone's not available to lobbyist or PAC.
00:39:34.000I am only available to the people of Arizona in this great country to make sure that we put America first, the exact opposite of Mark Kelly.
00:39:43.000And all the independents will see that as well, so that they understand how badly he's impacting their future as well.
00:39:50.000Website: if people wanted to follow or support you, Jim Layman, L-A-M-O-N.com.
00:40:00.000We've got hundreds of volunteers that have already organized and doing great things for us.
00:40:05.000We'd love for you to join in the donation side of this equation as well.
00:40:09.000Help me to make sure that we absolutely make these sharp contrasts and Mark Kelly and bring this Senate seat back to Arizona on the red side of the equation, but also really on the American first side of the equation.