The Charlie Kirk Show - Erika Kirk Responds To Conspiracy Theories

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00:01:09.000 Hey, everybody, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:01:11.000 We are joined by Rich Barris, People's Pundit.

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00:01:22.000 Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:01:24.000 Thanks for having me back, Andrew.

00:01:26.000 It's always great, brother.

00:01:27.000 Well, listen, man, we were talking yesterday and kind of getting some of the stuff ready for Amfest for you, which you're going to be doing a breakout with Mark Mitchell on some of the polling that we need to be aware of, what's going on.

00:01:42.000 And one of the things you brought up was the fact that with all this conspiracy craziness going on, we're getting distracted off of the rise of left-wing violence.

00:01:50.000 And I just want to alert everybody that as soon as I have a clip that just happened where Erica Kirk was on with Harrison Faulkner on Fox News on Outnumbered, I'm going to play that clip and I'm going to have it in as soon as I can.

00:02:06.000 So if we have, but tell us about what we're missing when it comes to the rise of left-wing violence.

00:02:12.000 What are you seeing?

00:02:13.000 Yeah, Andrew, this is a tragedy that we got lost in some of the other noise and nonsense, really.

00:02:21.000 And we didn't have a conversation about some of the stuff that we found, which is, you know, it happened right under our nose.

00:02:29.000 And somebody's, we're going to have to start to address this.

00:02:32.000 And just to give people some ideas, you know, the right, and it's fair to say it's a right talking point that comes to the right about transgender identification, having a link to political violence. 0.69

00:02:44.000 And without a doubt, we found that.

00:02:46.000 I mean, if you identify as a trans person, you're twice as likely to say that it's tolerable, it's acceptable to commit acts of political violence. 1.00

00:02:57.000 And what that stems from is, I mean, this is the other side of it too.

00:03:01.000 So we can't ignore this.

00:03:03.000 What that stems from is their perceived threat to themselves, right?

00:03:07.000 They think that they're constantly under threat from some form of society or another, which, you know, I find interesting because I mean, I'm not obviously trans, but I don't see it.

00:03:19.000 But basically, that's the relationship because it's not just a trans demographic.

00:03:24.000 I just thought that we had to look at that because it was such a big part of the conversation when we saw mass shootings, right?

00:03:30.000 Even when we were dealing with Charlie's case, right?

00:03:32.000 I mean, this is all the stuff people have been talking about and debating on social media.

00:03:38.000 And it's there.

00:03:38.000 That relationship is there.

00:03:40.000 But I think also too, the left feels, and I don't think they do, the left feels that it's acceptable to commit acts of violence on their political opponents, people they just disagree with, because they view speech itself to be violence, Andrew.

00:03:59.000 And that is the big difference between the left and the right.

00:04:02.000 The right views violence to be violence, and that's it, right?

00:04:06.000 You can hurry, you know, sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me.

00:04:10.000 You remember that saying?

00:04:11.000 Does everybody remember that?

00:04:12.000 Because I was thinking about that when I was processing this.

00:04:15.000 You know, when I was a kid, that's what people said.

00:04:17.000 And it was a way to differentiate that, you know, somebody says something, it may hurt your feelings, whatever.

00:04:23.000 There's a big difference between that and actual violence, right?

00:04:27.000 And we're just not teaching people this today.

00:04:29.000 We're not.

00:04:30.000 And so many of these left-wing demographic groups have come up and have come to the conclusion that it's all right to physically hurt somebody that you disagree with.

00:04:42.000 And that's stunning.

00:04:43.000 So it's just, yeah, Rich, I'm going to show you.

00:04:46.000 This is that we talked about it a lot on this show, but I'm going to put it back up again.

00:04:50.000 This is image 31.

00:04:52.000 Is it this is from YouGov the Economist right after Charlie's assassination?

00:04:57.000 And the question was posed: is it ever justified for citizens to resort to violence in order to achieve political goals?

00:05:03.000 This is the percent responding yes.

00:05:05.000 And you look at that aged cohort, 18 to 39-year-olds, it's at 30% of liberals in the 18 to 39 bracket believe that violence is justifiable to achieve political goals.

00:05:19.000 And then it, you know, it goes down somewhat to in the 40 to 59-year-old bracket.

00:05:24.000 Are you seeing similar results to this in your polling?

00:05:28.000 The age signal is definitely there.

00:05:31.000 If you're, you know, if you're 45 to 64, you're certainly more left-wing than you were 10 years ago in that age bucket.

00:05:38.000 But there is still a disconnect with the left's younger cohorts where they just, like I said before, were not taught this very simple lesson that actually, I mean, let's be honest, Andrew, they were taught the opposite.

00:05:51.000 They were taught about microaggressions and they were taught about that speech actually being violence.

00:05:57.000 So they have this completely different worldview.

00:06:01.000 So if you come to understand that, then it makes-I'm not saying it's rational, I'm not saying it's right, but I'm saying it makes sense that they commit so many acts of violence.

00:06:12.000 We asked similar questions that such as we were trying to elicit an honest response from people.

00:06:18.000 And one of the ones that was most illuminating was asking whether or not some people hold such beliefs or beliefs that are so bad that acts of violence are justified against them.

00:06:30.000 Well, if you have a media telling you that this one's a Nazi, this one promotes this, this one does that, and you believe that, well, then suddenly, Andrew, you become the hero in your own story.

00:06:42.000 You're putting down this bad element.

00:06:45.000 And honestly, we can go back to even the shooting of Steve Scalise.

00:06:49.000 We don't talk about this guy enough.

00:06:50.000 This guy worked for Bernie Sanders, then he worked for Hillary Clinton.

00:06:54.000 He fully believed in the Russia hoax. 0.99

00:06:56.000 He believed Donald Trump was a traitor. 0.88

00:06:58.000 And he looked at Steve Scalise and other Republicans on Capitol Hill as enablers. 0.80

00:07:03.000 And in his own mind, he wasn't a bad guy.

00:07:06.000 He wasn't a guy who got a gun and committed a mass shooting.

00:07:09.000 He was a guy who was saving the country from this infiltration.

00:07:14.000 So, you know, I think the lesson here is that we all really do have to be a little bit more careful with our words.

00:07:21.000 But we have entire institutions that are pushing these kinds of messages.

00:07:25.000 And, you know, it's sad because we started to follow this trajectory to have this discussion in the wake of Charlie's murder.

00:07:33.000 And we were, you know, in my opinion, so close to holding certain people accountable for their reckless, reckless disregard for anyone's safety when they use certain words to label their political opponents.

00:07:48.000 And we got completely sidetracked from that.

00:07:50.000 And we have to get back on it because it exists.

00:07:52.000 It's real.

00:07:54.000 It's dangerous to be a political voice in America.

00:07:57.000 That's a fact.

00:07:58.000 Yeah.

00:07:58.000 Yeah, you look at what happened with Timpool.

00:08:00.000 His house got shot up.

00:08:01.000 That's been confirmed by his team.

00:08:04.000 He's, you know, he's been saying that he doesn't even know if his show can continue on.

00:08:08.000 So my heart and my genuinely my prayers are out with Timpool.

00:08:12.000 I mean, this stuff, you talk to Steven Crowder.

00:08:14.000 Steven Crowder literally goes around with armed security everywhere he goes.

00:08:20.000 This should not be the way that we have to live our lives in America if you're going to be a conservative.

00:08:25.000 And the reason you have to is because of that poll that you are conducting right now, the poll that we saw from in just the immediate aftermath.

00:08:32.000 So Blake has a theory with this YouGov poll that had Charlie not been assassinated, that number actually would have been quite a bit higher, that people were probably, you know, maybe moderating themselves a little bit.

00:08:43.000 And so that it actually would you would have seen a higher number there.

00:08:46.000 So this whole thing.

00:08:48.000 I agree with that.

00:08:48.000 Yeah, I agree with that.

00:08:49.000 This whole thing is insane that you can't disagree.

00:08:52.000 And I just really wonder, you know, what are the threats that they think are going to happen?

00:08:57.000 You know, what voices are spreading this on Discord chats?

00:09:01.000 What voices are spreading this on Twitch?

00:09:03.000 What voices are spreading this anywhere that it's like, okay, that like some conservative is going to bust down your door and like drag you out because you're brown or something.

00:09:12.000 I guess that's like the message, right?

00:09:14.000 That they need to do this because of ICE or because of DHS or because Trump's a totalitarian or whatever.

00:09:19.000 Right.

00:09:20.000 And we asked about social media use as well.

00:09:23.000 And I don't even know what to call these demographics, but these, you know, they're almost hysterical, right?

00:09:30.000 These hysterical demographics, their use of things like Reddit and definitely Discord and Blue Sky.

00:09:36.000 Of course, they're on Blue Sky a lot.

00:09:38.000 I'm not calling for shutting anything down here, guys, you know, just to be clear.

00:09:41.000 But they're in their own echo chambers.

00:09:44.000 So they're not interacting with other people to dispel these myths, right?

00:09:49.000 So if I was told constantly by somebody, and we didn't talk, Andrew, that, you know, you were this big threat to me, right?

00:09:56.000 And we never engaged and we never interacted with each other, I would never know that's not true.

00:10:02.000 And I'm just hearing from the same voices over and over again telling me that that's the case.

00:10:07.000 So the more we retreat to our own corners, to our true socials and our blue skies and whatever it may be, the worse this is going to get.

00:10:14.000 Yeah, it's the echo chambers.

00:10:15.000 It's the echo chambers, Rich.

00:10:16.000 You're totally right.

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00:11:28.000 We've got that clip ready of Erica on Outnumbered, and it is amazing.

00:11:34.000 With Erica Kirk sharing her journey with America and the world, we are grateful at Fox to have her here to shine a light on healing as we all miss and mourn the loss of her beloved Charlie Kirk.

00:11:47.000 Not all of her journey has been without, well, hate, conspiracies, and oddly, speculation about where her husband is buried.

00:11:57.000 Now for the first time, Erica, who's with me now, addresses all of it from the perspective of a grieving widow, a mom, and a battle-tested American.

00:12:10.000 Good to see you again today.

00:12:12.000 Talk to me about this part of the conspiracies that are out there, this disturbing part that people are trying to guess where Charlie is.

00:12:21.000 Can I have one thing?

00:12:24.000 Can I have one thing?

00:12:27.000 Can my children have one thing?

00:12:31.000 Everything was public.

00:12:35.000 We will be building the most beautiful memorial for my husband at Turning Point USA, and it will be for the world to see, and it will be spectacular, and it will have basically museum style for our Charlie, for my Charlie.

00:12:49.000 But can I have one thing?

00:12:51.000 Can my babies have one thing where we hold it sacred, where my husband is laid to rest, where I don't have to be worried about some secular revolutionary coming and destroying my husband's grave while my daughter is sitting there praying?

00:13:04.000 One thing, that this is my husband.

00:13:08.000 Yes, he was Charlie Kirk to the world, and I know so many people love my husband, and I am grateful for that, but this is my husband.

00:13:15.000 And I want to be able to have one thing left that is sacred to our family, to my in-laws, to my babies, and to my parents.

00:13:24.000 One thing.

00:13:26.000 What are they taking from you right now?

00:13:28.000 Nothing.

00:13:30.000 But I will tell you what they are doing.

00:13:33.000 It reminds me so much of chapter six in the book of Nehemiah.

00:13:39.000 He is building a wall, and the townspeople are at the base of that hill saying, Nehemiah, calling him all these names, saying all these things, come on down.

00:13:49.000 Every single time he had the same message four times in a row.

00:13:53.000 I cannot come down.

00:13:54.000 I am busy building.

00:13:55.000 That is how I feel.

00:13:57.000 I do not have time to address the noise.

00:13:59.000 My silence does not mean that I am complacent.

00:14:03.000 My silence does not mean that somehow Turning Point USA and all of the hand-picked staff that loved my husband and my husband loved them is somehow in on it.

00:14:13.000 We are busy building.

00:14:15.000 And you know what I thought?

00:14:16.000 I thought these people are human.

00:14:18.000 We are all grieving in our own way.

00:14:20.000 And they are trying to find the answer to something that happened that was so evil.

00:14:25.000 They are trying so hard.

00:14:26.000 And I get that.

00:14:27.000 We're doing the same.

00:14:28.000 Anytime we hear a lead or anytime we hear anything, we send it to the authorities.

00:14:33.000 Please dig into this.

00:14:34.000 No rock will be unturned.

00:14:37.000 I want justice for my husband, for myself, for my family more than anyone else out there.

00:14:43.000 So for me, you want to keep telling me to come down while we're building?

00:14:48.000 I don't have time for that.

00:14:50.000 But here's my breaking point on that.

00:14:52.000 Come after me.

00:14:53.000 Call me names.

00:14:54.000 I don't care.

00:14:55.000 Call me what you want. 0.99

00:14:57.000 Go down that rabbit hole. 0.97

00:14:58.000 Whatever.

00:15:00.000 But when you go after my family, my Turning Point USA family, my Charlie Kirk show family, when you go after the people that I love, and you're making hundreds and thousands of dollars every single episode going after the people that I love because somehow they're in on this.

00:15:20.000 No.

00:15:21.000 You know, I have to say it, I've never seen you like this.

00:15:24.000 No, I'm very, this is righteous anger because this is not okay.

00:15:30.000 It's not healthy.

00:15:31.000 This is a mind virus.

00:15:33.000 Yes, I believe in our judicial system.

00:15:37.000 I do.

00:15:38.000 We have a hell of a team working on this.

00:15:40.000 Excuse my French.

00:15:42.000 But this is not okay.

00:15:44.000 So you want to put these people back in the box where they've been creeping from.

00:15:49.000 I don't care what box you're in.

00:15:52.000 But just know that your words are very powerful and we are human.

00:15:57.000 My team are not machines and they're not robots.

00:16:00.000 They are human.

00:16:01.000 We have more death threats on our team and our side than I have ever seen.

00:16:05.000 I have kidnapping threats.

00:16:07.000 I have, you name it, we have it.

00:16:09.000 And my poor team is exhausted.

00:16:11.000 And every time they bring this back up, what are we supposed to do?

00:16:14.000 Relive that trauma all over again?

00:16:16.000 They watched my husband get murdered.

00:16:18.000 I have no idea how I would have reacted if I was there that day.

00:16:23.000 And thank the good Lord that I did not have to see that happen.

00:16:27.000 But my team, they are rocked to the core.

00:16:30.000 So why every single day did they have to be dragged through the mud, analyzed, hyper-analyzed?

00:16:37.000 You know, the conspiracies that are out there are all of the like.

00:16:42.000 Do you think that there is more of it now because you do shine your light?

00:16:47.000 I mean, did people just expect you would just go away?

00:16:50.000 I don't know what they expected.

00:16:52.000 I don't know what they expected.

00:16:54.000 They pick on you because of your accessories.

00:16:56.000 I mean, I've seen some of it.

00:16:57.000 Oh, yeah.

00:16:58.000 No, at this point, it's what, the conspiracy collection.

00:17:01.000 Get it before Christmas.

00:17:03.000 Like, seriously, you will, if you want to find and pick me apart, go right ahead.

00:17:08.000 I do not care.

00:17:09.000 I don't.

00:17:10.000 This was happening before Charlie was murdered.

00:17:12.000 Both of us have been through the ringer of people will call you whatever they want to call you.

00:17:15.000 Quite the clip.

00:17:16.000 I hope you guys enjoyed it.

00:17:17.000 I'm very proud of Erica.

00:17:20.000 Well said.

00:17:20.000 So much grace, so much courage, so much strength.

00:17:25.000 Connection, open dialogue.

00:17:27.000 These are the things that build communities.

00:17:30.000 Charlie, Kirk, and TikTok share in that knowledge.

00:17:33.000 That's why TikTok has built a space where that kind of listening actually happens.

00:17:37.000 People don't just post, they respond.

00:17:39.000 They build on each other's ideas.

00:17:41.000 You'll see a teacher simplifying a tough lesson so it finally clicks, or a gardener sharing a trick that saved their crop.

00:17:48.000 But what matters most isn't the video.

00:17:50.000 It's what comes next.

00:17:52.000 Someone asking a question, someone else answering with a story of their own.

00:17:55.000 And suddenly, people who've never met become a community built on curiosity.

00:18:01.000 When people listen and understand, a shift happens.

00:18:03.000 Walls come down, ideas travel further, and connection, real connection, takes their place.

00:18:09.000 That's what listening does.

00:18:10.000 It reminds us that we're not as different as we may think.

00:18:13.000 And that's what makes TikTok so powerful.

00:18:15.000 It's a place where every post can turn into a conversation and every conversation can make a difference.

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00:18:26.000 I want to bring on our next two guests here.

00:18:30.000 We've got Gabby Stout, who's a high school student, as well as Tyson Langhoffer, who's a senior counselor with Alliance Defending Freedom, the good people over at Alliance Defending Freedom.

00:18:42.000 And this is an incredible story because, well, I'm going to have them tell the story, actually.

00:18:49.000 So Gabby and Tyson, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:18:52.000 Hi, thank you for having me.

00:18:54.000 Yeah, honored to have you both.

00:18:56.000 Gabby, why don't we start with you?

00:18:58.000 Just tell us what you tried to do to honor Charlie and then tell us what happened next.

00:19:02.000 Yes, so I painted the spirit rock at my high school, which is a large rock that you can paint to express your opinions and beliefs.

00:19:11.000 And I painted the rock to honor and memorialize Charlie Kirk's life, as well as to honor God.

00:19:18.000 On the rock, I painted A Heart, an American flag, Freedom 1776, and Live Like Kirk, John 11, 25.

00:19:26.000 I painted these things because Charlie Kirk loved our country and he wanted our generation to also be proud of our country.

00:19:34.000 I painted Live Like Kirk John 11, 25 because I wanted to give people hope that life doesn't end after death and that Charlie Kirk is living eternally in heaven, which is why I wrote John 11, 25, which says, I am the resurrection in the life.

00:19:48.000 Whoever believes in me, though he die, yet shall live.

00:19:52.000 Only hours after painting, my rock was covered up by the school, and I was accused by the school as committing a crime, and I vandalized the rock, even though I had permission from the school.

00:20:07.000 Wow.

00:20:08.000 The education system strikes again.

00:20:10.000 Yeah, where, can you tell me where your school is located?

00:20:14.000 Yes, my school is located in Charlotte, North Carolina.

00:20:17.000 Unbelievable.

00:20:19.000 So, Tyson Langhoff, your senior counsel with Alliance Defending Freedom, how did you guys hear about this incident?

00:20:26.000 And why did you choose to get involved?

00:20:28.000 Well, because, you know, high school students should be encouraged to share their beliefs and opinions on really important topics, but they shouldn't be censored by government officials who disagree with their opinions.

00:20:41.000 And the school here has created an opportunity on their spirit rock for students to share their beliefs, yet they didn't like what Gabby had to say.

00:20:49.000 And so, because of that, they not only censored her by painting over the rock, but they then sent out an email to the entire school community accusing her of vandalism and saying that they have started a criminal investigation.

00:21:00.000 The next day at school, they called her into the principal's office and they demanded that she write out a statement without reading her rights or telling her she's under criminal investigation, telling her that she has the right to an attorney or telling her she has a right to remain silent.

00:21:14.000 That's a problem, right?

00:21:15.000 Because the school officials have created this forum, yet they're saying, because you share this opinion, we're not going to let you participate in that forum.

00:21:23.000 That's a violation of the First Amendment.

00:21:24.000 It should never happen in America.

00:21:26.000 And we want to hold these schools officials accountable for doing that.

00:21:30.000 I just, I don't understand how this becomes a criminal investigation.

00:21:33.000 Has that been ceased?

00:21:35.000 Have they stopped that?

00:21:36.000 Because that's patently insane.

00:21:38.000 So after they interviewed Gabby and verified, yes, that she did have permission, eventually they silently closed the investigation and said, well, she didn't do anything wrong.

00:21:49.000 Yet the problem is this had gone out to the entire Charlotte community.

00:21:53.000 It was on the news that she had been accused of vandalism and that they were having a criminal investigation.

00:21:59.000 And instead of clearing her name, they just silently closed it and acted as if nothing happened.

00:22:04.000 But it's not just, it's not nothing when the government actually puts their foot on the scale and silences a high school student who simply wants to express her opinion and treats her like a criminal simply for expressing her views.

00:22:18.000 That should never happen in America at a public school.

00:22:21.000 Of course.

00:22:21.000 So, Gabby, what did it feel like when you just expressed your admiration for Charlie?

00:22:30.000 You took part in seems like a civic ritual at the school.

00:22:34.000 You expressed your pride.

00:22:35.000 It was a traumatizing event, I know, for high schoolers all across the country.

00:22:40.000 And then you get treated like a criminal.

00:22:42.000 Tell us personally, like, what did that feel like?

00:22:44.000 What was that experience like for you and your family?

00:22:47.000 I was extremely intimidated.

00:22:50.000 I don't get in trouble often at school.

00:22:52.000 And so I was very scared that I could be getting in trouble for sharing my views and my beliefs.

00:22:59.000 And this has never happened to any other student for such causes.

00:23:04.000 And so my family and I, I was very scared to go to school the next day.

00:23:08.000 And my parents were scared to send me as well, as I had no idea if I could go to jail or what would be waiting for me as I got to school.

00:23:16.000 I mean, I just find this so unbelievable.

00:23:18.000 You're obviously a very bright student.

00:23:20.000 You're obviously well-intentioned.

00:23:22.000 You are the exact kind of student that we should be hoping is the product of our school system.

00:23:29.000 And yet you are getting targeted and called out and singled out for doing something beautiful to honor Charlie.

00:23:37.000 I just have to wonder, like, and maybe I'll throw this to you, Tyson, because I don't want to get Gabby in any more hot water here.

00:23:45.000 I have to wonder, are there examples on this spirit rock that maybe celebrated LGBTQ?

00:23:52.000 Are there examples of things that maybe conservatives wouldn't find so appealing?

00:23:58.000 And were there any consequences for those demonstrations?

00:24:01.000 So several years ago during the BLM movement, there were BLM, there were paintings of expressing support for BLM.

00:24:11.000 And in fact, some other students ended up painting other messages on that.

00:24:17.000 And the school officials stepped in and actually supported the supporters of BLM and encouraged them to go back and repaint that over.

00:24:27.000 So obviously they allow political messages and they allow messages that are on important topics of the day.

00:24:36.000 And they actually, again, are weighing in, putting their foot on the scale for certain views and trying to stamp out other views.

00:24:44.000 And that's the exact opposite message that we want our government officials sending to the next generation.

00:24:49.000 We want them to understand that the government allows all viewpoints, that they can't censor certain viewpoints.

00:24:57.000 But, you know, in fact, after Gabby did this, they changed the policy.

00:25:00.000 They now have a policy that says no religious or political messages, right?

00:25:05.000 And we know who gets to determine what's religious and what's political.

00:25:08.000 It's these same school officials who've already shown that they have a bias against people like Gabby who just want to share their support for Charlie Kirk and their support for Christian values.

00:25:21.000 Yeah, I find that really appalling, actually, that their reaction to this would be to say no religious or political spirit rock demonstrations.

00:25:32.000 I find that appalling because especially in Charlotte, North Carolina, I'm going to wager a guess here that would say that most people are Christians. 0.99

00:25:41.000 Most people worship Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior in this part of the country.

00:25:46.000 And that is a very key part of their personality, of what makes them have spirit in the first place.

00:25:52.000 I find that actually a really appalling thing.

00:25:54.000 And to your point, who's going to determine what's acceptable on that rock?

00:25:57.000 What are the rules?

00:25:59.000 This is why censorship is a terrible thing in the first place.

00:26:03.000 But I don't want to get bogged down on the negative here.

00:26:06.000 I'm so glad Alliance Defending Freedom has stepped in.

00:26:09.000 So thank you, Tyson, and thank you to ADF for being a voice of common sense and having Gabby's back.

00:26:15.000 We have your back, Gabby.

00:26:17.000 I'm told, Gabby, that you are considering starting a turning point chapter in the future.

00:26:22.000 I don't want to put words in your mouth, but if you do, we will 100% have your back on that as well.

00:26:27.000 Gabby, the floor is yours here.

00:26:28.000 We've got about three minutes left in this segment.

00:26:31.000 Tell us what it was about Charlie that so moved you.

00:26:34.000 Tell us what he meant to you, what he meant to you and your friends.

00:26:37.000 I enjoyed watching Charlie Kirk.

00:26:39.000 I've watched him for many years, and I admired him as he went across campuses speaking to students, even people he didn't agree with, just having conversations with them.

00:26:50.000 And I was absolutely distraught when he died, as I have never seen someone assassinated on social media because of their faith.

00:26:58.000 And he was trying to teach people truth, which is the Bible.

00:27:03.000 And he wanted people to be able to stand up and defend their faith.

00:27:07.000 Yeah, really well said.

00:27:08.000 Tyson, final question to you.

00:27:11.000 What do you hope comes out of this?

00:27:14.000 What does victory look like here in this Charlotte school?

00:27:17.000 Well, one, we want them to change their policy.

00:27:19.000 We want them to have a policy which allows all viewpoints.

00:27:23.000 And we also want to hold them accountable for silencing Gabby because of her viewpoint.

00:27:29.000 They need to understand, government officials need to understand there are consequences for violating our most deeply cherished rights, such as the freedom of speech and free exercise of our religious beliefs.

00:27:41.000 And then I hope we inspire, I hope Gabby's courage inspires students across the country to wade in, to engage in discussions on important topics and to do it in a way that Charlie did with grace and winsomeness and doing it in a way that encourages people to engage with people across the aisle.

00:28:00.000 Yeah, well said.

00:28:01.000 I'm just, I'm so, I'm so proud of you guys, honestly, for standing up for what you know is clearly right.

00:28:09.000 Gabby, you have been. egregiously wronged.

00:28:12.000 Charlie, the legacy of Charlie Kirk has been egregiously maligned and unnecessarily so.

00:28:18.000 What you wrote was beautiful.

00:28:19.000 And thank you for doing that.

00:28:21.000 And I just want to say that, you know, thank you to your parents who raised you, to the community that brought you up and instilled those values in you.

00:28:28.000 And God bless what you wrote.

00:28:29.000 Freedom 1776, Live Like Kirk, John 11, 25.

00:28:34.000 That is exactly what a spirit rock is.

00:28:36.000 It's not a mostly peaceful rock.

00:28:38.000 This spirit rocks.

00:28:39.000 You did everything right, Gabby.

00:28:42.000 And we bless you for that.

00:28:43.000 We say God bless you.

00:28:44.000 Please let us know.

00:28:46.000 I know our team, obviously we got in touch for this interview.

00:28:50.000 But if you want to start a turning point chapter, we will work extraordinarily hard to help you make that a phenomenal chapter.

00:28:56.000 So let us know if you choose to do that.

00:28:58.000 God bless you guys.

00:28:59.000 Tyson, thank you, and God bless the ADF as well for stepping in.

00:29:02.000 Thank you so much.

00:29:03.000 Thank you guys.

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00:30:12.000 The team really loved that segment, by the way, with Gabby and Tyson.

00:30:17.000 I just, Blake, the world feels so freaking upside down sometimes.

00:30:22.000 It's really frustrating.

00:30:23.000 We said this yesterday.

00:30:24.000 We love seeing the chapter heads.

00:30:26.000 We love seeing the rank and file turning point enthusiasts because they're the people Charlie cared so much about.

00:30:32.000 They have that enthusiasm.

00:30:34.000 They have that forthrightness.

00:30:38.000 They haven't had the chance to, frankly, be jaded by, you know, we know there's so many difficulties and troubles.

00:30:43.000 It's never easy, but they're always earnest.

00:30:45.000 They're always happy to go.

00:30:47.000 They honor Charlie with everything they do.

00:30:49.000 Email us, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:30:51.000 Do you like when we bring these students on?

00:30:52.000 Do you want to see more of it?

00:30:53.000 Do you want to hear more stories from the schools?

00:30:56.000 Because I think it's important.

00:30:57.000 And it's one of the ways that just I know how to honor Charlie is to show you the faces and hear the stories directly of the students that are on the front lines doing it.

00:31:07.000 And Charlie was always so good about this.

00:31:09.000 He was always so good about giving those students all the credit and saying they are the front lines for freedom in this country.

00:31:15.000 And they're the tip of the spear and they're doing the hard things.

00:31:17.000 And we need to have their back because they're standing up against backward school districts like that one in Charlotte. 1.00

00:31:22.000 Shame on that school district.

00:31:23.000 Blake, you got a clip lined up for us.

00:31:25.000 Yeah, I just, I think we should hit more of the Trump rally.

00:31:27.000 I think it's good.

00:31:28.000 It's Trump on brand.

00:31:29.000 And we really want to highlight things where...

00:31:31.000 Yes, you said this in the break, actually.

00:31:33.000 And I was like, why'd you say it?

00:31:34.000 You got to say it to the audience.

00:31:35.000 Yeah.

00:31:35.000 So let's tee up this bit here with let's do Trump when he's talking about our favorite representative, Ilhan Omar.

00:31:43.000 Let's play.

00:31:43.000 Ilhan the Ingrate.

00:31:44.000 Let's play 2-2-2.

00:31:46.000 Do we have any individuals from Somalia in the group?

00:31:49.000 Please raise your hand.

00:31:51.000 That's for Minnesota. 0.99

00:31:53.000 You know, that's called the Great Big Minnesota scam with one of the dumbest governors ever in history. 0.99

00:31:59.000 I love this Elon Omar, whatever the hell her name is, with the little turban. 1.00

00:32:07.000 I love her. 1.00

00:32:07.000 She comes in, does nothing but she's always complaining. 1.00

00:32:12.000 I love her.

00:32:12.000 She comes to our country and she's always complaining about the Constitution allows me to do this.

00:32:20.000 We ought to get her the hell out. 1.00

00:32:22.000 She married her brother in order to get in, right? 1.00

00:32:25.000 She married her brother.

00:32:28.000 Now, I should clarify, what it specifically was, is the powerline blog.

00:32:32.000 Those guys we had on last week, they were the original guys who broke it.

00:32:35.000 What it seems she did is she was already married to her real husband, only religiously.

00:32:41.000 And then she legally married her brother.

00:32:44.000 And it seems this was a scheme to just get more benefits from the University of North Dakota while she was going there. 1.00

00:32:49.000 Like you could get better housing if you were married.

00:32:51.000 I was just with the Dakotas, Blake.

00:32:52.000 It was just pure. 0.99

00:32:54.000 Oh, it's another way to get more crap from the taxpayers for free. 0.94

00:32:58.000 And then as soon as that was no longer useful, throw it aside. 0.97

00:33:01.000 Her brother, I think, might live in the UK now.

00:33:03.000 I would really love the Trump administration. 0.73

00:33:07.000 It would be a dream if they could denaturalize and deport her over this.

00:33:10.000 But even if that's not possible, it should just be public.

00:33:13.000 We should know what the truth is there.

00:33:15.000 Here's my message to Ilhan Omar.

00:33:17.000 Keep doing exactly what you're doing. 0.97

00:33:20.000 You are a walking, talking disgrace to Somalia. 1.00

00:33:23.000 You are a walking, talking billboard that will only further our drive and our desire to stop the runaway, unchecked, unfettered migration into this country. 1.00

00:33:34.000 So keep being you, Ilhan Omar. 0.65

00:33:36.000 I hope you're not.

00:33:36.000 And you too, Jasmine.

00:33:38.000 We're pulling for you in this nomination.

00:33:39.000 We're going to get rid of Jasmine.

00:33:41.000 No, we would never want to get rid of Jasmine. 0.64

00:33:43.000 Go make more videos of you standing up possibly. 1.00

00:33:46.000 Jasmine, go all out. 1.00

00:33:48.000 Be the most Jasmine Crockett you can crocket. 1.00

00:33:51.000 I want you to be the most fantastic version of yourself.

00:33:54.000 We want Jazz Max.

00:33:56.000 Jazz and you need to go Max.

00:33:58.000 Jazz.

00:33:59.000 You need to go Max.

00:34:00.000 You and Ilhan Omar need to do a tour.

00:34:02.000 I want you to sell the tickets.

00:34:04.000 I want you to go to every deep blue district you can find, and I want you to sell those tickets.

00:34:08.000 Go to Berkeley.

00:34:10.000 Go straight up to the...

00:34:11.000 No, no, not Berkeley.

00:34:12.000 Go to the big, going every swing state.

00:34:14.000 Go to the swing state tour.

00:34:17.000 Jasmine Crockett and Ilhan Omar.

00:34:20.000 You can bring Rashida Tlib if you want, and you just tell everybody we need more of you. 0.96

00:34:25.000 That we need to open our borders and more green cards and more visas for all of you because you are such a disgrace to your countries. 1.00

00:34:35.000 And I tell you what, everywhere they go, Blake, we are going to be flocking to the polls to vote for no more unfettered mass migration. 0.96

00:34:44.000 The globalists are going to lose every time you open your mouth.

00:34:47.000 So please just be extra special this year.

00:34:50.000 Be extra special.

00:34:51.000 This Christmas.

00:34:51.000 We're calling it Christmas.

00:34:52.000 We have 40 seconds left.

00:34:54.000 I think this is a good day to highlight.

00:34:57.000 There are good people on the base who are honoring Charlie, getting involved, like that student.

00:35:01.000 And there are real wins.

00:35:03.000 We're dismantling disparate impact.

00:35:05.000 We have literally secured the border.

00:35:06.000 We've secured it so hard we can't even report on it anymore because nothing is happening there anymore.

00:35:12.000 And by the way, I just want to say this holiday season, my prayers are with the brave men and women, DHS and ICE that are leading the mass deportations in places like Minneapolis.

00:35:24.000 God bless them.

00:35:30.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - December 10, 2025

Erika Kirk Responds To Conspiracy Theories

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