Dinesh D'Souza joins us to discuss his new film, 2000 Meals, his upcoming film about Alexandria Agasio-Cotes, and we also cover some very important news stories before you think a Red Wave is imminent.
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00:02:08.000You see, we are always constantly hawking the measurables.
00:02:15.000Whereas it's important to note and to realize that CNN or a lot of these other channels, they've never really been big on how many people are actually watching them or care about it.
00:02:30.000In fact, they say, oh, no, the numbers are all wrong.
00:04:07.000You see this a lot now in kind of legacy media: is that when you take away the automatic distribution into 75 million homes, people actually don't want to watch you.
00:04:18.000If you're not able to survive in the world of podcasting or in the world of over-the-top content, then you're actually not as popular as you think you are.
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00:04:58.000You see, we've conflated for a while fame and popularity, two totally different things.
00:05:04.000I'm going to get to another story here.
00:05:07.000AOC wants to talk about green energy, play cut 21.
00:05:14.000The actual time, budget, and the money aside, but let's say you, assuming you have the money, the amount of time it takes to install solar panels on your roof, not that long.
00:05:26.000So, where we play a role is that we can make investments to reduce, to reduce the cost of solar.
00:05:32.000The AOC regime knows, or kind of all the people around AOC, they know how important energy is to fueling an entire civilization.
00:05:43.000They know how important it is to actually be able to have the capacity and the ability to go from one place to the other, to transport yourself.
00:05:51.000But what happens when all of a sudden it becomes too expensive to do that?
00:05:58.000You see, instead of focusing on, I don't know, why are gas prices too high, the entire Democrat Party is focusing on whether or not six-year-olds are going to be taught about like radical queer gender ideology?
00:06:14.000Ron DeSantis is standing up against that play cut 19.
00:06:18.000We are not going to use your tax dollars to teach our kids to hate this country or to hate each other.
00:06:26.000We believe that every single student matters, every single student counts.
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00:06:35.000We are not going to tell other kids that they're oppressed based on their race.
00:06:40.000Don't let anybody tell you that you can't succeed in this state.
00:06:49.000There's people holding the signs that say stop woke.
00:06:52.000And Joy Reed has come out and said that Ron DeSantis is guilty of child abuse because he gives black kids the signs that say stop CRT because it says stop the woke.
00:07:04.000So this is a good segue into the 2,000 mules as we kind of touch on a lot of different stories here.
00:07:10.000Seemingly unrelated stories, but they are related in some sense.
00:07:15.000I'm not prepared to say that the red wave this November is guaranteed.
00:07:24.000So we're going to have a conversation with Dinesh D'Souza.
00:07:26.000We're also going to play the entire trailer to 2,000 Mules, but let's ask ourselves the question before we do this, which is what created the conditions?
00:07:36.000What was the necessary foundation to be able to have mass mail-in balloting, to be able to have ballot drop boxes on every single corner?
00:07:47.000The answer is, of course, our reaction to COVID.
00:07:51.000COVID was the gateway to all of the mass mail and balloting we saw.
00:08:00.000Fear, the fear of the virus, the lack of early treatments, all these sorts of things.
00:08:04.000So if the Democrats want to get back to mass mail and voting, wouldn't that mean they would try to get back to mass COVID fear?
00:08:14.000Well, Scott Gottlieb said exactly that.
00:08:46.000If you look at the wastewater data, hopefully over the summer, through the summer, we have pretty low prevalence of this infection, and then we're going to see it reemerge in the fall.
00:09:02.000What if the Democrats want to keep you afraid, keep the door open to try to have mass mail-in ballots coming into the fall, which we know is a prerequisite to mass voter fraud?
00:09:22.000But in order to get power, they need the emergency, which allows them to have mass mail and ballots, which they think can close the gap ahead of November coming into the midterms.
00:09:33.000We already saw them use COVID as a 2022 election issue.
00:09:37.000What issue is going their way right now?
00:09:40.000We've already gone through the entire menu of how every single one of their institutions is collapsing, collapsing, collapsing, collapsing.
00:09:48.000They're going to try to bring back something.
00:09:50.000And he told you, I expect this to come back in the fall.
00:09:56.000I don't trust these Democrats, and I know you don't either, but they're going to try to look at something to use an excuse to bring back mass mail and ballots.
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00:12:43.000Remember, without a fear of the virus, we would not have mass mail and ballots.
00:12:49.000It's a very important point of what we're about to dive into: is that the mail and ballots, of course, being sent to every single corner of the world, every single place that had voters or not, allowed criminals to then scoop up those ballots, bring them to stash houses, and then bring them the ballot drop boxes.
00:13:08.000Now, I will sit down with any sort of journalist and go through the cell phone ping technology, and they can tell me why mules, also showed on video, would go to 25, 30, 35, 40 ballot drop boxes as on video with piles of ballots and put them in.
00:13:25.000Journalists are not going to want to cover this story.
00:13:27.000They're going to try to cover it up, similar to the Hunter Biden laptop story, similar to Tony Bobulinsky and Joe Biden.
00:17:15.000You guys know we have been teasing that for months now.
00:17:20.000And you know, I would not tease something unless I felt that it was credible and worthy of examination.
00:17:28.000I'm telling you, this is the smoking gun.
00:17:30.000We streamed our conversation with Katherine Engelbrecht and Greg Phillips on Real America's Voice, well over 3 million minutes and 500,000 views of that conversation with Greg Phillips and Katherine Engelbrecht on Rumble, R-U-M-B-L-E dot com.
00:17:47.000The man himself joins us next, Dinesh D'Souza.
00:17:51.000We're going to dive into the entire movie.
00:17:55.000Well, not the entire movie, but the essence of the movie.
00:17:58.000And we have some of your questions for him here.
00:18:00.000And so make sure you do not miss it when it comes out.
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00:19:33.000So we are just days, hours away from this movie being out.
00:19:37.000Tell us how you think the final version, kind of the final cut, if you will, has turned out.
00:19:43.000And just give us a little insight into some things we can expect coming up on May 2nd and May 4th.
00:19:50.000Well, I'm very excited and I'm also watching with great interest to see the reaction on the part of the media, on the part of the Democrats, and on the part of the GOP.
00:20:01.000This is going to be an interesting test of the Republican Party, because to a considerable degree, the problems that are identified in this movie have a Republican remedy if the Republicans have the will to carry it out.
00:21:26.000Law enforcement, all the mass media, we know they're a waste of time.
00:21:30.000Republican officials, not until it came onto your doorstep, did you have the courage or the conviction to actually produce a whole movie around this?
00:21:37.000What does that say about the kind of current landscape of our storytellers?
00:21:42.000I mean, it's remarkable that it's taken this long for Greg Phillips and Catherine Engelbrecht's information to get out.
00:21:50.000Yeah, Greg and Catherine came to us now several months ago and said, we think we have something really big, and we don't quite know what the way is to get it out.
00:22:00.000And their strategy was essentially one of a piecemeal release of items of data.
00:22:08.000And I said to them, don't do that because the left is really expert and their fly swatter is so big that they will be able to smash down any particular claim saying, well, okay, well, you got one guy stuff in a ballot box.
00:22:21.000You know, Biden won the state by 10,000 votes.
00:22:24.000So what you need to do is to systematize this, put the whole narrative together in a really unanswerable way.
00:22:33.000And then my next task, I mean, having been convinced myself that this was solid, was to take it to Salem and have a summit with all the sort of top guys at Salem, including the owner, Ed Atzinger, and say, listen, you know, you guys need to take this seriously.
00:22:50.000You're a journalistic media organization.
00:22:52.000And scared as we all are about this topic, because we all know about the sort of wall of censorship and you can be permanently banned.
00:23:44.000Well, I've only started talking about it, and I've also noticed that the left has slowly started trying to figure out how to respond to it.
00:23:53.000Initially, when I put out the teaser, this was over a month ago, and not a single fact check on it to this date.
00:24:22.000One of which he says that, well, this geo-tracking, he goes, it's not really all that scientific.
00:24:28.000You know, it can kind of track something within about 30 feet, but it doesn't really mean that these guys went and dropped ballots off at these ballot drop boxes.
00:24:37.000Now, first of all, this is like making this similar claims about GPS and saying the GPS is only accurate to half a mile.
00:24:46.000That may have been true in the original GPS, but GPS now is very accurate.
00:24:52.000And cell phone geo-tracking is so accurate that you can geo-track someone to a degree of 12 to 18 inches.
00:24:59.000So the technical point here that is being made by Philip Bump is just a null, you know, intellectually a null set.
00:25:08.000His other point is: hey, how do we know that these weren't all legal ballots?
00:25:14.000And if a legal ballot is delivered by a mule in an illegal way, that doesn't make it an illegal vote.
00:25:23.000To which the short answer is, yes, it does.
00:25:25.000Because if you break the chain of custody of a vote, you pay a mule.
00:25:29.000If I were to take my vote in California, where by the way, vote harvesting is allowed, and I were to pick up the street and say, here's 100 bucks, go drop my vote off.
00:25:37.000That vote is invalid and should not be counted.
00:25:48.000They're workshopping how to smear this, right?
00:25:51.000And we talk about that in the film, actually.
00:25:53.000I don't know if that makes the final cut, where I believe they're going to try to smear you, try to smear the idea that we're tracking people in the black community.
00:26:02.000But they really haven't done a full-front kind of counter-narrative attack yet.
00:26:06.000And I think part of what we have to do, and part of what I'm going to try to do, is as soon as lawmakers start talking about this, then all of a sudden it's going to activate the entire kind of media machine.
00:26:18.000So Dinesh, talk a little about for some people that still haven't heard the entire overview.
00:26:24.000For example, someone says here, Jim, Charlie, how do they know who to video and who to follow by ping technology ahead of time on election day?
00:26:32.000Talk about how the crawlback just in about three to five minutes.
00:26:36.000Just go through that, Dinesh, and it'll be a good refresher even for some of our audience that has heard it before.
00:26:42.000So there are two separate tracks of investigation.
00:26:46.000The first is geo-tracking, and the second is video.
00:26:51.000So what True the Vote did was they bought the movement within a certain radius or what's called a geo-fenced area.
00:27:00.000These are the heavily democratic urban areas in five states: Atlanta, which is three or four counties, including Fulton County, Milwaukee, Maricopa County in Arizona, Detroit, the Detroit area of Michigan, and the greater Philadelphia area of Pennsylvania.
00:27:20.000And what they did was they said, look, we're going to run a search algorithm to find cell phones that are moving between these left-wing organizations.
00:27:28.000Let's call them the vote stash houses and multiple mail-in drop boxes.
00:27:34.000It's not enough to go to one or two or even five.
00:27:37.000Somebody may have an eccentric reason to go to two, but no one has a reason to go to 10 or more drop boxes unless you're doing something not only fishy, but flat out illegal.
00:27:47.000So the search mechanism was you had to go to at least five organizations and at least 10 drop boxes.
00:27:53.000So you're only looking for the most egregious offenders, the most egregious mules.
00:27:58.000And so when we call this movie 2,000 mules, those are the most egregious, the kind of highly motivated offenders.
00:28:06.000There are a lot more mules than 2,000.
00:28:09.000So it's a ridiculous undercount of the number of mules.
00:28:12.000But just the ballots that are dropped by those mules, which we can do a very close estimate of, is more than enough to tip the balance in the 2020 election.
00:29:21.000That's 50,000 Dropbox visits by these mules alone.
00:29:26.000And then you and then dropping in four or five ballots at a time.
00:29:29.000So all you have to do is run a little basic map.
00:29:32.000And by the way, in the movie, we do run the math.
00:29:34.000We don't hesitate to look at the volume of the fraud and then go state by state and tell you, would this have made a difference in Wisconsin?
00:29:42.000Would this have made a difference in Michigan?
00:29:45.000And you can almost recalibrate the electoral vote once you do that.
00:29:48.000And this is one of the most fascinating, I think, absorbing parts of the movie.
00:29:53.000And so we've seen kind of all the, you know, the media say it's the most secure election in history.
00:30:00.000Talk about the technical side of this, though, because when they were talking about, they were also talking about cybersecurity.
00:30:05.000They never really commented on ballot trafficking or ballot fraud, which is something that they almost intentionally want to turn a blind eye to.
00:30:15.000Yeah, I think that what True the Vote did here, which I think was very smart, is they said, look, let's look at where the rules have changed.
00:30:23.000Because if someone's going to cheat, they're going to try to cheat there because the new processes are likely to be the least secure.
00:30:31.000It's kind of like saying, don't try to rob the bank when you can rob an ATM.
00:30:35.000You know, if the ATM doesn't have anyone looking at it, and if there aren't proper security measures, it's going to be much easier because if you go in the middle of the night, there's no one there.
00:30:44.000So the sudden appearance of all these ballot drop boxes, but again, True the Vote didn't know until they ran the data.
00:30:50.000And the beauty for me as a filmmaker is the video evidence is decisive because whether or not law enforcement does anything, the simple truth of it is, if you can see the guy breaking into Fort Knox, you know what?
00:32:32.000Well, the answer is no, they haven't been arrested, but yes, there is plenty of information to do that.
00:32:39.000And the reason is really simple: that to pay someone in a democratic process to either vote, you can't be paid to cast your vote, and you can't be paid to deliver your vote.
00:32:51.000That is straight out illegal in every state.
00:32:54.000So, you know, I don't, it's some people try to obfuscate the debate by saying, well, vote harvesting is allowed in certain states.
00:33:01.000This is ballot trafficking and it's illegal.
00:33:03.000The things we show you in the movie are all illegal.
00:33:06.000So law enforcement really has no excuse not to move in.
00:33:10.000Now, true, the vote does not have the names of the mules, but it has the next best thing, which is the cell phone ID.
00:33:17.000And look, a cell phone ID is a digital fingerprint, right?
00:33:20.000I mean, I could give my cell phone to my wife, Debbie, and she could be the one dropping off the votes.
00:33:24.000But if my cell phone is at the scene, then the cell phone itself was there.
00:33:29.000And so what law enforcement can do is they can, you know, unmask these cell phones and they do this every day.
00:33:35.000You know, if there's a murder in a park at night and there are six cell phones identified in that area, they go unmask the cell phones, they go drop in on all those people and they are all suspects.
00:34:03.000So they say, Charlie, if this case brought by 2,000 mules is true, why did Stacey Abrams lose her 2018 election?
00:34:10.000Now, this is important, Dinesh, to zero in.
00:34:12.000Remember, in 18, Georgia only had 258,000 mail-in ballots, an increase to 1.2 million mail-in ballots.
00:34:18.000Talk about how COVID really did set the foundation for this entire scheme.
00:34:24.000Yeah, the Democrats have long been the party of voter fraud.
00:34:28.000And interestingly, in this movie, we're describing not, I would call it high-tech fraud, because this is not Chinese hacking or machine swapping votes.
00:34:37.000It is low-tech fraud busted in a high-tech way.
00:34:41.000So the geotracking is high-tech, but the fraud itself is low-tech.
00:34:45.000And going back to Tammany Hall, the Democrats, you know, they would figure out ways where a guy could vote four times and somebody else would take his vote down there.
00:34:52.000Democratic operatives would collect immigrant votes and fill out the ballots and so on.
00:34:56.000So this has been going on for a while.
00:34:59.000The key difference is it was ramped up to an unbelievable degree because of COVID.
00:35:05.000And now suddenly with all these mail-in drop boxes, which by the way, some people think, you know, that was just, you know, legally required.
00:35:12.000No, some of it was Mark Zuckerberg using his financial leverage to tell these cities and counties: if you don't put in these mail-in drop boxes, you don't get the money.
00:35:22.000So private individuals were able to use financial leverage to make the cities do things that enable the fraud.
00:35:48.000So, you know, go and actually buy it at salemnow.com or Rumble or Locals.
00:35:52.000Please walk people through it, Dinesh.
00:35:54.000Well, let me say first, Charlie, I'm very grateful to you and I'm delighted to be partnering with Turning Point and with you guys to have some key screenings around the country.
00:36:04.000I hope there'll be a way also to get young people in your network to see this movie because that would be just thrilling to have.
00:36:10.000The website is 2000mules.com, just the number 2000mules.com.
00:36:15.000And it shows you the four or five ways you can see the movie.
00:36:18.000There's a way perhaps to see it in the theater if we have happened to have a theater near you.
00:36:22.000If not, I would say go watch it in our virtual premiere.
00:36:54.000That's right, a grassroots army of people to go to 2000mules.com, watch it, pay for it, get your friends to do the same, and then contact your Republican lawmakers and send them a version and say, why are you doing nothing?