The Charlie Kirk Show - Everything You Need to Know about '2000 Mules' with Dinesh D'Souza

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today in the Charlie Kirk show, Dinesh D'Souza joins us to go through 2000meals.com, his upcoming film.

00:00:06.000 We talk about Alexandria Agasio-Cotes, and we also cover some other very important news stories.

00:00:13.000 And before you think a red wave is imminent, I think that the people are there, but be careful.

00:00:17.000 They're going to try to do every single trick in the book ahead of November.

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00:00:32.000 Buckle up, everybody.

00:00:33.000 Here we go.

00:00:34.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

00:00:36.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campuses.

00:00:38.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

00:00:41.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

00:00:44.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:00:45.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:00:46.000 His spirit, his love of this country.

00:00:48.000 He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created.

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00:00:55.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.

00:01:04.000 That's why we are here.

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00:01:16.000 CNN Plus has cratered, which is just phenomenal to see the cratering and the collapse of CNN Plus.

00:01:24.000 This is just another sign that what the propaganda that is being spread is not popular.

00:01:35.000 You know, I said this a couple years ago as we started to get into podcasting.

00:01:39.000 I said, and I was only wrong on the timing.

00:01:42.000 I wasn't wrong on the essence.

00:01:44.000 I said to my team, Andrew, I said, I don't think people realize how fragile information consumption is about to become.

00:01:56.000 Meaning, I can tell you exactly how many people are downloading our podcast.

00:02:01.000 I could tell you how many people are watching our videos.

00:02:03.000 I could tell you how many people are emailing us.

00:02:05.000 And we track those things.

00:02:08.000 You see, we are always constantly hawking the measurables.

00:02:15.000 Whereas it's important to note and to realize that CNN or a lot of these other channels, they've never really been big on how many people are actually watching them or care about it.

00:02:30.000 In fact, they say, oh, no, the numbers are all wrong.

00:02:32.000 We're fine.

00:02:32.000 We're very popular.

00:02:35.000 Well, if people don't want what you put on TV for free, why on earth would they give you money for it?

00:02:42.000 Play cut 24.

00:02:44.000 Yeah, CNN Plus went under.

00:02:46.000 CNN minus CNN.

00:02:48.000 Just went under.

00:02:49.000 They spent $300 million.

00:02:52.000 They got 10,000 subscribers.

00:02:55.000 Imagine the hubris of thinking that something that people don't want for free, that you're going to charge money for it.

00:03:04.000 We're going to have a Jake Tapper book club.

00:03:06.000 Jake Tapper seems like a great guy.

00:03:08.000 But I mean, I feel like I don't have to pay for his book club.

00:03:11.000 I feel like you should put that on Twitter.

00:03:14.000 Pay for a Jake Tapper book club.

00:03:17.000 We're seeing the trajectory of things on the left collapse because they do not live in the world of objectivity.

00:03:25.000 You see, I live in the world where I discern objective.

00:03:29.000 They live in the world of the subjective.

00:03:31.000 We're constantly measuring how many people are downloading, how many people are listening, where are we at in the charts?

00:03:37.000 What are our ratings?

00:03:38.000 CNN is like, oh, we're a multi-billion dollar machine.

00:03:41.000 It makes you wonder how fragile really is the current media empire.

00:03:45.000 You see, because of increased technology, we should be able to see who legitimately actually is very popular and who is not.

00:03:52.000 Who's able to draw crowds and who's able to make arguments and who's able to hold an audience?

00:03:57.000 Well, if you're not able to hold an audience and do that, why on earth would you continually have a subsidy for your program?

00:04:04.000 The reason is you shouldn't.

00:04:07.000 You see this a lot now in kind of legacy media: is that when you take away the automatic distribution into 75 million homes, people actually don't want to watch you.

00:04:18.000 If you're not able to survive in the world of podcasting or in the world of over-the-top content, then you're actually not as popular as you think you are.

00:04:25.000 You're just famous.

00:04:26.000 It's a big difference.

00:04:28.000 You could be famous.

00:04:29.000 All the people on CNN are famous.

00:04:31.000 They're just not popular.

00:04:32.000 Like when that eunuch starts walking down the street, people say, I know him.

00:04:36.000 Yeah, that's the guy that is always complaining to me, and he takes up the entire screen.

00:04:40.000 Or the race lady on MSNBC, whatever her name is, Joy Reed. 1.00

00:04:44.000 Like, oh, I know her, but they don't like her. 0.64

00:04:48.000 They're not popular.

00:04:50.000 You see, when CNN does these book tours and their people, no one shows up.

00:04:55.000 No one actually flocks to go buy the book.

00:04:58.000 You see, we've conflated for a while fame and popularity, two totally different things.

00:05:04.000 I'm going to get to another story here.

00:05:07.000 AOC wants to talk about green energy, play cut 21.

00:05:14.000 The actual time, budget, and the money aside, but let's say you, assuming you have the money, the amount of time it takes to install solar panels on your roof, not that long.

00:05:24.000 Not that long.

00:05:26.000 So, where we play a role is that we can make investments to reduce, to reduce the cost of solar.

00:05:32.000 The AOC regime knows, or kind of all the people around AOC, they know how important energy is to fueling an entire civilization.

00:05:43.000 They know how important it is to actually be able to have the capacity and the ability to go from one place to the other, to transport yourself.

00:05:51.000 But what happens when all of a sudden it becomes too expensive to do that?

00:05:55.000 Well, we're living through that.

00:05:58.000 You see, instead of focusing on, I don't know, why are gas prices too high, the entire Democrat Party is focusing on whether or not six-year-olds are going to be taught about like radical queer gender ideology?

00:06:14.000 Ron DeSantis is standing up against that play cut 19.

00:06:18.000 We are not going to use your tax dollars to teach our kids to hate this country or to hate each other.

00:06:26.000 We believe that every single student matters, every single student counts.

00:06:31.000 We are not going to categorize you based on your race.

00:06:35.000 We are not going to tell other kids that they're oppressed based on their race.

00:06:40.000 Don't let anybody tell you that you can't succeed in this state.

00:06:44.000 Everybody can succeed.

00:06:49.000 There's people holding the signs that say stop woke.

00:06:52.000 And Joy Reed has come out and said that Ron DeSantis is guilty of child abuse because he gives black kids the signs that say stop CRT because it says stop the woke.

00:07:04.000 So this is a good segue into the 2,000 mules as we kind of touch on a lot of different stories here.

00:07:10.000 Seemingly unrelated stories, but they are related in some sense.

00:07:15.000 I'm not prepared to say that the red wave this November is guaranteed.

00:07:22.000 I'm not.

00:07:24.000 So we're going to have a conversation with Dinesh D'Souza.

00:07:26.000 We're also going to play the entire trailer to 2,000 Mules, but let's ask ourselves the question before we do this, which is what created the conditions?

00:07:36.000 What was the necessary foundation to be able to have mass mail-in balloting, to be able to have ballot drop boxes on every single corner?

00:07:47.000 The answer is, of course, our reaction to COVID.

00:07:51.000 COVID was the gateway to all of the mass mail and balloting we saw.

00:08:00.000 Fear, the fear of the virus, the lack of early treatments, all these sorts of things.

00:08:04.000 So if the Democrats want to get back to mass mail and voting, wouldn't that mean they would try to get back to mass COVID fear?

00:08:14.000 Well, Scott Gottlieb said exactly that.

00:08:16.000 He's warning you.

00:08:18.000 He's saying that COVID is going to come back in the fall just in time for the midterm election.

00:08:25.000 Play cut 18.

00:08:27.000 No, I think this year is really a transition year.

00:08:30.000 I think this is going to be the year when this becomes more of an endemic illness.

00:08:34.000 It's not going to be a defined point in time when that happens.

00:08:38.000 But what's going to happen is this is going to settle into more of a seasonal pattern.

00:08:42.000 I do expect prevalence levels to start to decline.

00:08:44.000 We may be peaking right now.

00:08:46.000 If you look at the wastewater data, hopefully over the summer, through the summer, we have pretty low prevalence of this infection, and then we're going to see it reemerge in the fall.

00:08:53.000 The question is, what re-emerges?

00:08:55.000 Is it a new strain of Omicron?

00:08:57.000 And that's going to drive decisions around the vaccine.

00:08:59.000 Drive decisions around the vaccine.

00:09:02.000 What if the Democrats want to keep you afraid, keep the door open to try to have mass mail-in ballots coming into the fall, which we know is a prerequisite to mass voter fraud?

00:09:14.000 There's no fear.

00:09:16.000 Well, then there's no crisis.

00:09:18.000 No emergency, then no power.

00:09:20.000 No power, no great reset.

00:09:22.000 But in order to get power, they need the emergency, which allows them to have mass mail and ballots, which they think can close the gap ahead of November coming into the midterms.

00:09:33.000 We already saw them use COVID as a 2022 election issue.

00:09:37.000 What issue is going their way right now?

00:09:39.000 Nothing.

00:09:40.000 We've already gone through the entire menu of how every single one of their institutions is collapsing, collapsing, collapsing, collapsing.

00:09:48.000 They're going to try to bring back something.

00:09:50.000 And he told you, I expect this to come back in the fall.

00:09:54.000 Be vigilant, everybody.

00:09:55.000 Be aware.

00:09:56.000 I don't trust these Democrats, and I know you don't either, but they're going to try to look at something to use an excuse to bring back mass mail and ballots.

00:10:08.000 It's really out of control.

00:10:09.000 Inflation is at a 40-year high.

00:10:11.000 Your cash is getting sucked right out of your wallet with higher prices on gas, groceries, practically everything.

00:10:16.000 Look, you got to take charge of your money right now.

00:10:18.000 So here's a principle that we say: don't use the big banks that hate you.

00:10:22.000 Bank of America is canceling conservatives.

00:10:24.000 A team member that we have at Turning Point USA literally just had his bank account shut down by Bank of America.

00:10:31.000 Literally, no longer allowed to use Bank of America because of his politics.

00:10:34.000 True story.

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00:10:45.000 You have to know what you're going through.

00:10:47.000 So look, I just had dinner with Andrew and Todd in Orange County.

00:10:50.000 We had a great time.

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00:10:54.000 They're ethical.

00:10:55.000 They're beautiful people.

00:10:56.000 They really are.

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00:10:58.000 And Andrew and Todd aren't brokers.

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00:11:04.000 And they're always in your corner.

00:11:06.000 In fact, they're helping me with the problem right now.

00:11:08.000 Just all this nonsense with interest rates and all this are helping me clarify it.

00:11:12.000 They're phenomenal to work with.

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00:11:23.000 So don't use these woke banks.

00:11:25.000 Bank of America, again, my team member, I'm not going to say his name.

00:11:28.000 You guys know him.

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00:11:30.000 Literally, Bank of America sent him a note saying, we are no longer allowing you to bank with us.

00:11:35.000 Boom, like that, all because of politics.

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00:12:01.000 So just write that down right now, write it in your phone.

00:12:04.000 You might say, oh, Charlie, I don't need to refinance or whatever.

00:12:06.000 Well, maybe you will two months from now.

00:12:07.000 Maybe you young millennials out there, maybe the millennials listening to our show, my fellow millennials, you're going to buy a home soon.

00:12:13.000 Maybe you're getting married and you want to buy something.

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00:12:18.000 Use the equity in your home before it's too late.

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00:12:43.000 Remember, without a fear of the virus, we would not have mass mail and ballots.

00:12:49.000 It's a very important point of what we're about to dive into: is that the mail and ballots, of course, being sent to every single corner of the world, every single place that had voters or not, allowed criminals to then scoop up those ballots, bring them to stash houses, and then bring them the ballot drop boxes.

00:13:08.000 Now, I will sit down with any sort of journalist and go through the cell phone ping technology, and they can tell me why mules, also showed on video, would go to 25, 30, 35, 40 ballot drop boxes as on video with piles of ballots and put them in.

00:13:25.000 Journalists are not going to want to cover this story.

00:13:27.000 They're going to try to cover it up, similar to the Hunter Biden laptop story, similar to Tony Bobulinsky and Joe Biden.

00:13:34.000 This is the smoking gun.

00:13:37.000 And this trailer right here is the 2000 Mules trailer brought now public, done by Dinesh D'Souza.

00:13:45.000 Now, we had Katherine Engelbrecht and Greg Phillips on our program.

00:13:51.000 And you guys should go back and check out that episode.

00:13:53.000 People loved our conversation there.

00:13:55.000 The website is 2000mules.com, the number 2000mules.com.

00:13:59.000 This is the now public trailer ahead of the premiere of one of Dinesh D'Souza's most important films ever, Play Cut 27.

00:14:09.000 We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics.

00:14:24.000 Let me say it again.

00:14:25.000 The 2020 election was the most secure election in American history.

00:14:31.000 Let me begin by asking a very simple question.

00:14:34.000 Do we know the truth about what really happened in the 2020 election?

00:14:38.000 I think millions of Americans know something went wrong and they have little pieces and no one's really put it together.

00:14:43.000 I'm agnostic on this question and I am awaiting more information.

00:14:48.000 If I believed the president were a Nazi, I might steal an election.

00:14:52.000 Bold accusations require bold evidence and they haven't seen it.

00:14:57.000 We have been working on something big.

00:15:00.000 Show me the money.

00:15:02.000 I've been working with Greg Phillips.

00:15:05.000 He has a deep background in election intelligence.

00:15:09.000 True the Vote has the largest store of election intelligence for the 2020 elections in the world.

00:15:15.000 No one has more data than we do.

00:15:20.000 We identified in Atlanta 242 mules that went to an average of 24 drop boxes.

00:15:27.000 At Philadelphia alone, we've identified more than 1,100 mules.

00:15:33.000 What is a mule?

00:15:34.000 Person picking up ballots and running them to the drop boxes.

00:15:38.000 This is not Grandma Walk and her dog.

00:15:41.000 Bad backgrounds, bad reputations.

00:15:43.000 They are interested in one thing, that's money.

00:15:46.000 In no shape, in no way, in no time, is that legal?

00:15:49.000 This is organized crime.

00:15:51.000 Do you have video evidence?

00:15:52.000 Four million minutes of surveillance video around the country.

00:15:58.000 What you're about to see is disturbing.

00:16:00.000 So this is one o'clock in the morning.

00:16:03.000 Don't we all vote at one o'clock in the morning? 0.57

00:16:06.000 On one night, this person, this mule, went across six counties to 27 different drop boxes. 1.00

00:16:14.000 I call it the Mexican mafia. 0.98

00:16:16.000 Seriously. 0.97

00:16:17.000 Because anything worked like that.

00:16:20.000 This is jaw-dropping.

00:16:21.000 What you showed is frightening.

00:16:24.000 It's just sickening to me.

00:16:26.000 Now we come to the most important question of all.

00:16:29.000 Was the magnitude of vote trafficking enough to tip the balance in the 2020 presidential election?

00:16:36.000 It's not a leap to say this would have made a difference.

00:16:40.000 They have ruined Election Day in the United States of America.

00:16:44.000 That's provable.

00:16:46.000 And that's enough for me to fight the left with every fiber in my body.

00:16:50.000 Without free and fair elections, we are not a democracy.

00:16:54.000 We are a criminal cartel masquerading as a democracy.

00:16:59.000 2,000 mules.

00:17:02.000 In select theaters, May 2nd and 4th.

00:17:05.000 Virtual premiere, May 7th.

00:17:08.000 Stream, May 8th at Salem Now.

00:17:10.000 Or Locals.

00:17:12.000 Or rumble.com, 2000Mules.com.

00:17:15.000 Honored to be part of that.

00:17:15.000 You guys know we have been teasing that for months now.

00:17:20.000 And you know, I would not tease something unless I felt that it was credible and worthy of examination.

00:17:28.000 I'm telling you, this is the smoking gun.

00:17:30.000 We streamed our conversation with Katherine Engelbrecht and Greg Phillips on Real America's Voice, well over 3 million minutes and 500,000 views of that conversation with Greg Phillips and Katherine Engelbrecht on Rumble, R-U-M-B-L-E dot com.

00:17:47.000 The man himself joins us next, Dinesh D'Souza.

00:17:51.000 We're going to dive into the entire movie.

00:17:55.000 Well, not the entire movie, but the essence of the movie.

00:17:58.000 And we have some of your questions for him here.

00:18:00.000 And so make sure you do not miss it when it comes out.

00:18:02.000 It's 2000mules.com.

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00:19:16.000 With us is the man behind the project, the most important movie to come out this year.

00:19:22.000 I'm honored to be in the movie, and we are going to be promoting it with events across the country.

00:19:27.000 Dinesh D'Souza.

00:19:28.000 Dinesh, welcome back to the program.

00:19:30.000 Charlie, it's a real pleasure.

00:19:32.000 Great to be with you.

00:19:33.000 So we are just days, hours away from this movie being out.

00:19:37.000 Tell us how you think the final version, kind of the final cut, if you will, has turned out.

00:19:43.000 And just give us a little insight into some things we can expect coming up on May 2nd and May 4th.

00:19:50.000 Well, I'm very excited and I'm also watching with great interest to see the reaction on the part of the media, on the part of the Democrats, and on the part of the GOP.

00:20:01.000 This is going to be an interesting test of the Republican Party, because to a considerable degree, the problems that are identified in this movie have a Republican remedy if the Republicans have the will to carry it out.

00:20:16.000 The movie is looking fantastic.

00:20:19.000 We have trimmed it a little bit, tightened it.

00:20:22.000 Obviously, we've added the final color, music, sound.

00:20:25.000 It's gorgeous to look at, and it's really fun to see it in the theater.

00:20:28.000 That's why I'm thrilled that we have it in 300 theaters on May 2nd and also on May 4th at the 7 p.m. showing.

00:20:38.000 We also have a virtual premiere coming out of a great studio in Vegas.

00:20:43.000 And you can join that in effect online through a kind of Zoom.

00:20:46.000 You get an access code, you kind of log in, and it will be not only the movie, but a live QA to follow the movie.

00:20:54.000 And then the movie is going to be available for digital download.

00:20:56.000 And we're putting it on uncancelable platforms, notably Salem Now, which is the Salem media platform, SalemNow.com.

00:21:04.000 And then it'll be available through the Rumble-owned platform called Locals.

00:21:09.000 As you know, that's a free speech platform.

00:21:11.000 It's not going to be possible for the left to take it down.

00:21:14.000 And this way, everyone who wants to see this movie will be able to do it and the left will not be able to stop it.

00:21:19.000 So, Dinesh, I have to ask you, why does it have to take you?

00:21:24.000 And I'm glad you're doing it, right?

00:21:25.000 But think about it.

00:21:26.000 Law enforcement, all the mass media, we know they're a waste of time.

00:21:30.000 Republican officials, not until it came onto your doorstep, did you have the courage or the conviction to actually produce a whole movie around this?

00:21:37.000 What does that say about the kind of current landscape of our storytellers?

00:21:42.000 I mean, it's remarkable that it's taken this long for Greg Phillips and Catherine Engelbrecht's information to get out.

00:21:50.000 Yeah, Greg and Catherine came to us now several months ago and said, we think we have something really big, and we don't quite know what the way is to get it out.

00:22:00.000 And their strategy was essentially one of a piecemeal release of items of data.

00:22:08.000 And I said to them, don't do that because the left is really expert and their fly swatter is so big that they will be able to smash down any particular claim saying, well, okay, well, you got one guy stuff in a ballot box.

00:22:19.000 Who cares about that?

00:22:21.000 You know, Biden won the state by 10,000 votes.

00:22:24.000 So what you need to do is to systematize this, put the whole narrative together in a really unanswerable way.

00:22:33.000 And then my next task, I mean, having been convinced myself that this was solid, was to take it to Salem and have a summit with all the sort of top guys at Salem, including the owner, Ed Atzinger, and say, listen, you know, you guys need to take this seriously.

00:22:50.000 You're a journalistic media organization.

00:22:52.000 And scared as we all are about this topic, because we all know about the sort of wall of censorship and you can be permanently banned.

00:23:00.000 So what?

00:23:01.000 This is important enough that if true, this is something that has huge consequences and we have an obligation to pursue it.

00:23:08.000 And then to my great satisfaction, they agreed.

00:23:11.000 Yeah.

00:23:11.000 And it's just, thank you for that courage.

00:23:13.000 And thanks to Salem, the Salem Radio Network and Media Group for picking this up.

00:23:17.000 But it just goes to show that there's not many truth tellers out there.

00:23:20.000 There isn't.

00:23:21.000 It's just a lot of people are unwilling to kind of interface with this.

00:23:25.000 So Dinesh, you know, you spoke to some of our supporters just about a month ago and teased this and was met with a very warm response.

00:23:32.000 What's been your response in the last couple of weeks as you kind of now get back on the road and talk about this more?

00:23:38.000 Are you met with skepticism or is it enthusiasm, anger?

00:23:42.000 What's the response been?

00:23:44.000 Well, I've only started talking about it, and I've also noticed that the left has slowly started trying to figure out how to respond to it.

00:23:53.000 Initially, when I put out the teaser, this was over a month ago, and not a single fact check on it to this date.

00:24:01.000 So they were obviously spooked by it.

00:24:03.000 They didn't know what to do.

00:24:04.000 They also realized there's a lot more where this came from.

00:24:06.000 It's the tip of the iceberg.

00:24:08.000 So they were scared to say this is bogus or this is just one case.

00:24:12.000 They knew there was a lot more behind it.

00:24:14.000 But I noticed that Philip Bump in the Washington Post has now tried to take on the argument itself.

00:24:20.000 And he makes two points.

00:24:22.000 One of which he says that, well, this geo-tracking, he goes, it's not really all that scientific.

00:24:28.000 You know, it can kind of track something within about 30 feet, but it doesn't really mean that these guys went and dropped ballots off at these ballot drop boxes.

00:24:37.000 Now, first of all, this is like making this similar claims about GPS and saying the GPS is only accurate to half a mile.

00:24:46.000 That may have been true in the original GPS, but GPS now is very accurate.

00:24:52.000 And cell phone geo-tracking is so accurate that you can geo-track someone to a degree of 12 to 18 inches.

00:24:59.000 So the technical point here that is being made by Philip Bump is just a null, you know, intellectually a null set.

00:25:08.000 His other point is: hey, how do we know that these weren't all legal ballots?

00:25:14.000 And if a legal ballot is delivered by a mule in an illegal way, that doesn't make it an illegal vote.

00:25:23.000 To which the short answer is, yes, it does.

00:25:25.000 Because if you break the chain of custody of a vote, you pay a mule.

00:25:29.000 If I were to take my vote in California, where by the way, vote harvesting is allowed, and I were to pick up the street and say, here's 100 bucks, go drop my vote off.

00:25:37.000 That vote is invalid and should not be counted.

00:25:40.000 Yes.

00:25:40.000 So yeah, they're kind of they're trying to mastermind.

00:25:45.000 That's not the right term.

00:25:46.000 They're workshopping.

00:25:47.000 That's the right term.

00:25:48.000 They're workshopping how to smear this, right?

00:25:51.000 And we talk about that in the film, actually.

00:25:53.000 I don't know if that makes the final cut, where I believe they're going to try to smear you, try to smear the idea that we're tracking people in the black community.

00:26:02.000 But they really haven't done a full-front kind of counter-narrative attack yet.

00:26:06.000 And I think part of what we have to do, and part of what I'm going to try to do, is as soon as lawmakers start talking about this, then all of a sudden it's going to activate the entire kind of media machine.

00:26:18.000 So Dinesh, talk a little about for some people that still haven't heard the entire overview.

00:26:24.000 For example, someone says here, Jim, Charlie, how do they know who to video and who to follow by ping technology ahead of time on election day?

00:26:32.000 Talk about how the crawlback just in about three to five minutes.

00:26:36.000 Just go through that, Dinesh, and it'll be a good refresher even for some of our audience that has heard it before.

00:26:42.000 So there are two separate tracks of investigation.

00:26:46.000 The first is geo-tracking, and the second is video.

00:26:49.000 Let's start with the geotracking.

00:26:51.000 So what True the Vote did was they bought the movement within a certain radius or what's called a geo-fenced area.

00:27:00.000 These are the heavily democratic urban areas in five states: Atlanta, which is three or four counties, including Fulton County, Milwaukee, Maricopa County in Arizona, Detroit, the Detroit area of Michigan, and the greater Philadelphia area of Pennsylvania.

00:27:20.000 And what they did was they said, look, we're going to run a search algorithm to find cell phones that are moving between these left-wing organizations.

00:27:28.000 Let's call them the vote stash houses and multiple mail-in drop boxes.

00:27:34.000 It's not enough to go to one or two or even five.

00:27:37.000 Somebody may have an eccentric reason to go to two, but no one has a reason to go to 10 or more drop boxes unless you're doing something not only fishy, but flat out illegal.

00:27:47.000 So the search mechanism was you had to go to at least five organizations and at least 10 drop boxes.

00:27:53.000 So you're only looking for the most egregious offenders, the most egregious mules.

00:27:58.000 And so when we call this movie 2,000 mules, those are the most egregious, the kind of highly motivated offenders.

00:28:06.000 There are a lot more mules than 2,000.

00:28:09.000 So it's a ridiculous undercount of the number of mules.

00:28:12.000 But just the ballots that are dropped by those mules, which we can do a very close estimate of, is more than enough to tip the balance in the 2020 election.

00:28:21.000 Yeah.

00:28:23.000 And remember, we're talking about multiple elections here.

00:28:26.000 So let's start with the first one.

00:28:27.000 The Georgia Senate runoff would not have happened if David Perdue would have received just another 2,500 votes, right?

00:28:34.000 And therefore, the United States Senate would be in Republican hands.

00:28:38.000 And so that's the first election, right, that we're talking about.

00:28:42.000 The second, of course, is the presidential.

00:28:45.000 And that is a very razor thin, right, margin, especially in states like Arizona and in Georgia, extremely razor-thin.

00:28:55.000 And so talk about that, Dinesh.

00:28:57.000 Where we're talking on very, very thin margins here.

00:29:00.000 Yeah, 12,000 or so votes in Georgia, about 10,000 in Arizona.

00:29:05.000 The numbers are bigger in places like Philadelphia, but it turns out the number of mules is much greater.

00:29:11.000 So to give you an idea, in Philadelphia, 1,100 mules going to an average of 50 drop boxes apiece.

00:29:20.000 So just run the map.

00:29:21.000 That's 50,000 Dropbox visits by these mules alone.

00:29:26.000 And then you and then dropping in four or five ballots at a time.

00:29:29.000 So all you have to do is run a little basic map.

00:29:32.000 And by the way, in the movie, we do run the math.

00:29:34.000 We don't hesitate to look at the volume of the fraud and then go state by state and tell you, would this have made a difference in Wisconsin?

00:29:42.000 Would this have made a difference in Michigan?

00:29:45.000 And you can almost recalibrate the electoral vote once you do that.

00:29:48.000 And this is one of the most fascinating, I think, absorbing parts of the movie.

00:29:52.000 Yeah, without a doubt.

00:29:53.000 And so we've seen kind of all the, you know, the media say it's the most secure election in history.

00:30:00.000 Talk about the technical side of this, though, because when they were talking about, they were also talking about cybersecurity.

00:30:05.000 They never really commented on ballot trafficking or ballot fraud, which is something that they almost intentionally want to turn a blind eye to.

00:30:15.000 Yeah, I think that what True the Vote did here, which I think was very smart, is they said, look, let's look at where the rules have changed.

00:30:23.000 Because if someone's going to cheat, they're going to try to cheat there because the new processes are likely to be the least secure.

00:30:31.000 It's kind of like saying, don't try to rob the bank when you can rob an ATM.

00:30:35.000 You know, if the ATM doesn't have anyone looking at it, and if there aren't proper security measures, it's going to be much easier because if you go in the middle of the night, there's no one there.

00:30:44.000 So the sudden appearance of all these ballot drop boxes, but again, True the Vote didn't know until they ran the data.

00:30:50.000 And the beauty for me as a filmmaker is the video evidence is decisive because whether or not law enforcement does anything, the simple truth of it is, if you can see the guy breaking into Fort Knox, you know what?

00:31:02.000 He did it.

00:31:03.000 And we can put that video video upon video upon video in the movie.

00:31:09.000 And the effect, the emotional effect, I think is overwhelming.

00:31:12.000 And we live in an age where video makes the difference, right?

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00:32:08.000 So Dinesh, I'm experiencing a downpour of emails right now, a cascade of why aren't these people arrested?

00:32:18.000 Come on.

00:32:19.000 Don't we have driver's lice information, driver's lice information, cell phone technology?

00:32:25.000 Let me just ask you in a court of law, is there enough information to arrest some of these mules?

00:32:30.000 And have they yet been arrested?

00:32:32.000 Well, the answer is no, they haven't been arrested, but yes, there is plenty of information to do that.

00:32:39.000 And the reason is really simple: that to pay someone in a democratic process to either vote, you can't be paid to cast your vote, and you can't be paid to deliver your vote.

00:32:51.000 That is straight out illegal in every state.

00:32:54.000 So, you know, I don't, it's some people try to obfuscate the debate by saying, well, vote harvesting is allowed in certain states.

00:33:01.000 This is ballot trafficking and it's illegal.

00:33:03.000 The things we show you in the movie are all illegal.

00:33:06.000 So law enforcement really has no excuse not to move in.

00:33:10.000 Now, true, the vote does not have the names of the mules, but it has the next best thing, which is the cell phone ID.

00:33:17.000 And look, a cell phone ID is a digital fingerprint, right?

00:33:20.000 I mean, I could give my cell phone to my wife, Debbie, and she could be the one dropping off the votes. 0.97

00:33:24.000 But if my cell phone is at the scene, then the cell phone itself was there.

00:33:29.000 And so what law enforcement can do is they can, you know, unmask these cell phones and they do this every day.

00:33:35.000 You know, if there's a murder in a park at night and there are six cell phones identified in that area, they go unmask the cell phones, they go drop in on all those people and they are all suspects.

00:33:44.000 Say, what were you doing?

00:33:45.000 Where were you?

00:33:45.000 etc.

00:33:46.000 And probably one of those guys did it.

00:33:48.000 So this is done all the time.

00:33:50.000 And there's no reason for law enforcement not to move in.

00:33:53.000 In fact, that would uncover the full plot.

00:33:55.000 Who paid you?

00:33:56.000 Who's the whole cartel could be taken apart?

00:33:59.000 And so there you go.

00:34:00.000 I said driver's license.

00:34:01.000 I meant license plates.

00:34:02.000 But we have a question here, Dinesh.

00:34:03.000 So they say, Charlie, if this case brought by 2,000 mules is true, why did Stacey Abrams lose her 2018 election?

00:34:10.000 Now, this is important, Dinesh, to zero in.

00:34:12.000 Remember, in 18, Georgia only had 258,000 mail-in ballots, an increase to 1.2 million mail-in ballots.

00:34:18.000 Talk about how COVID really did set the foundation for this entire scheme.

00:34:24.000 Yeah, the Democrats have long been the party of voter fraud.

00:34:28.000 And interestingly, in this movie, we're describing not, I would call it high-tech fraud, because this is not Chinese hacking or machine swapping votes.

00:34:37.000 It is low-tech fraud busted in a high-tech way.

00:34:41.000 So the geotracking is high-tech, but the fraud itself is low-tech.

00:34:45.000 And going back to Tammany Hall, the Democrats, you know, they would figure out ways where a guy could vote four times and somebody else would take his vote down there.

00:34:52.000 Democratic operatives would collect immigrant votes and fill out the ballots and so on.

00:34:56.000 So this has been going on for a while.

00:34:58.000 But Charlie, you're absolutely right.

00:34:59.000 The key difference is it was ramped up to an unbelievable degree because of COVID.

00:35:05.000 And now suddenly with all these mail-in drop boxes, which by the way, some people think, you know, that was just, you know, legally required.

00:35:12.000 No, some of it was Mark Zuckerberg using his financial leverage to tell these cities and counties: if you don't put in these mail-in drop boxes, you don't get the money.

00:35:22.000 So private individuals were able to use financial leverage to make the cities do things that enable the fraud.

00:35:30.000 Yes.

00:35:31.000 I mean, that's so well said.

00:35:33.000 And without Zuckerberg, without the kind of COVID fear mandates.

00:35:36.000 Okay, uninterrupted, tell us again when it comes out, how people can support it, right?

00:35:41.000 And I want people, I want to encourage people, go pay for this, okay?

00:35:45.000 You need to support good work when it happens.

00:35:47.000 All right.

00:35:48.000 So, you know, go and actually buy it at salemnow.com or Rumble or Locals.

00:35:52.000 Please walk people through it, Dinesh.

00:35:54.000 Well, let me say first, Charlie, I'm very grateful to you and I'm delighted to be partnering with Turning Point and with you guys to have some key screenings around the country.

00:36:04.000 I hope there'll be a way also to get young people in your network to see this movie because that would be just thrilling to have.

00:36:10.000 The website is 2000mules.com, just the number 2000mules.com.

00:36:15.000 And it shows you the four or five ways you can see the movie.

00:36:18.000 There's a way perhaps to see it in the theater if we have happened to have a theater near you.

00:36:22.000 If not, I would say go watch it in our virtual premiere.

00:36:26.000 This is on Saturday, May 7th.

00:36:28.000 You can be part of this fantastic event.

00:36:30.000 And then the next day, it's available for digital download.

00:36:34.000 So you will just be able to go to Rumble Locals or you'll be able to go to salemnow.com, put in your credit card, click watch the movie.

00:36:42.000 So we're making it such that it's available to everybody and it can't be blocked.

00:36:47.000 Dinesh, thank you for this project.

00:36:48.000 Again, I'm honored to participate and I think it's going to be a big success.

00:36:52.000 We need a grassroots army.

00:36:54.000 That's right, a grassroots army of people to go to 2000mules.com, watch it, pay for it, get your friends to do the same, and then contact your Republican lawmakers and send them a version and say, why are you doing nothing?

00:37:07.000 Why has no one been arrested?

00:37:08.000 God bless you, Dinesh.

00:37:09.000 We're behind you.

00:37:10.000 God bless you so much.

00:37:11.000 Thank you so much.

00:37:12.000 Thank you.

00:37:15.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - April 26, 2022

Everything You Need to Know about '2000 Mules' with Dinesh D'Souza

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