The Charlie Kirk Show - April 27, 2022


TRUTH Social CEO Reacts to Elon’s Twitter Buyout with Devin Nunes


Episode Stats


Length

39 minutes

Words per minute

181.06915

Word count

7,113

Sentence count

583

Harmful content

Misogyny

5

sentences flagged

Toxicity

13

sentences flagged

Hate speech

20

sentences flagged


Summary

Summaries generated with gmurro/bart-large-finetuned-filtered-spotify-podcast-summ .

Devin Nunez joins the Charlie Kirk Show to talk about what is happening on the southern border and why we must not lose focus on that critical issue and so much more. Charlie Kirk is the Founder and President of Turning Point USA, a youth organization dedicated to fighting for freedom on college campuses across the country.

Transcript

Transcripts from "The Charlie Kirk Show" are sourced from the Knowledge Fight Interactive Search Tool. Explore them interactively here.
Misogyny classifications generated with MilaNLProc/bert-base-uncased-ear-misogyny .
Toxicity classifications generated with s-nlp/roberta_toxicity_classifier .
Hate speech classifications generated with facebook/roberta-hate-speech-dynabench-r4-target .
00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody.
00:00:00.000 Today on the Charlie Kirk Show, we have Devin Nunez on the program from Truth Social.
00:00:05.000 We dive into a lot of different topics and issues with him, including what is Durham up to.
00:00:11.000 I'd love to get an update on that.
00:00:12.000 I think you'll enjoy that.
00:00:14.000 We also talk about the southern border.
00:00:16.000 We do not lose focus on that critical issue and so much more.
00:00:20.000 Email us your thought as always freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:00:24.000 Support the Charlie Kirk Show at charliekirk.com/slash support and get involved with Turning PointUSA today at tpusa.com.
00:00:31.000 At tpusa.com, you can come to our young women's leadership summit, which I highly recommend you attend.
00:00:37.000 It's tpusa.com/slash ywls.
00:00:40.000 That's tpusa.com/slash ywls.
00:00:43.000 Candace Owens and Kaylee McEnany and more will be in Dallas for our Young Women's Leadership Summit.
00:00:48.000 So check it out at tpusa.com/slash YWLS.
00:00:52.000 Again, if you want to support this program, go to charliekirk.com/slash support.
00:00:56.000 Buckle up, everybody.
00:00:56.000 Here we go.
00:00:58.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
00:00:59.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
00:01:02.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
00:01:05.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
00:01:08.000 I want to thank Charlie.
00:01:09.000 He's an incredible guy.
00:01:10.000 His spirit, his love of this country.
00:01:12.000 He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created.
00:01:17.000 Turning point USA. 0.65
00:01:19.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:27.000 That's why we are here.
00:01:31.000 Brought to you by the Loan Experts I Trust, Andrew and Todd at Sierra Pacific Mortgage at AndrewandTodd.com.
00:01:40.000 This story we cover quite a lot.
00:01:42.000 It's a theme, but it's an important theme.
00:01:44.000 We're not going to stop talking about it just because it remains chaotic, but it's a drumbeat.
00:01:52.000 We have to keep on diving into it, give you the latest, tell you what's happening.
00:01:55.000 It's the entire civilization will be determined on whether or not we can manage this issue or hopefully or prayerfully solve this issue.
00:02:04.000 And of course, it is the invasion of our country. 0.92
00:02:07.000 Our country is being invaded every single day, invaded by cartel forces that are subsidizing the movement of millions of illegal people into our country, the breaking and entering into the United States of America.
00:02:20.000 And it's only getting worse.
00:02:21.000 Now, this is all around this particular issue.
00:02:23.000 You're going to hear this a lot.
00:02:25.000 And I'll just kind of tell you plainly what it is.
00:02:26.000 It's called Title 42.
00:02:28.000 Title 42 is a loophole.
00:02:31.000 We've admitted it before.
00:02:33.000 And Title 42 is really the only thing we have at our disposal right now that is a carryover from the Trump administration to the Biden regime that allows the Biden administration to deport illegals, even though they don't want to, because Title 42 is still in place.
00:02:52.000 So Title 42 is basically saying if you come from a country where COVID rates or infectious diseases are high, we can expel you from the country.
00:03:00.000 Now, despite Title 42, our invasion still continues to worsen.
00:03:05.000 But Title 42 is one of the few things that is keeping this not to be just beyond catastrophic.
00:03:11.000 It's the worst it's ever been, but just like unthinkably catastrophic.
00:03:14.000 And also that is deterring future people from coming because there still is a chance you might get deported if you cut into the arms of Border Patrol.
00:03:22.000 So Secretary Mayorkis is largely to blame for this.
00:03:25.000 But of course, Joe Biden, they want open borders.
00:03:27.000 They do not want to police the southern border.
00:03:29.000 They want to change the country.
00:03:32.000 They want more people, more obedient voters, more low-wage workers, and to try to obviously decrease American domestic wages here because major corporations want that. 0.99
00:03:43.000 And it all fits their political agenda, which helps them with the U.S. Census, amongst many other things.
00:03:47.000 Now, the media goes nuts when you talk about this.
00:03:50.000 They say, you're talking about the great replacement.
00:03:51.000 No, we're not.
00:03:52.000 A replacement theory, whatever they call it.
00:03:54.000 That's nonsense.
00:03:55.000 We're using the Democrats' own words against them.
00:03:58.000 From the Castro brothers to Democrat strategists, they have repeatedly said that they do not believe that under the current makeup, America will go in the Democrat direction.
00:04:08.000 The Castro brothers bragged on cable television that because of demographic change and because of a poor southern border, Texas will eventually become a Democrat state.
00:04:17.000 Now, thankfully, this woke stuff has been a phenomenal slowdown in the Democrats' attempt to take over the Hispanic community.
00:04:26.000 You go woke, you might lose Hispanics. 1.00
00:04:28.000 Hispanics don't like the idea. 1.00
00:04:30.000 Hispanics are not exactly open-minded to this idea of men becoming pregnant or having segregated black dormitories or transition closets for children. 0.56
00:04:41.000 Hispanics are very socially conservative, and this runs contrary. 0.53
00:04:45.000 In fact, it runs against the conventional wisdom that many Republican establishment people say.
00:04:50.000 The way we're going to win over Hispanics is just talking about lower taxes, speaking Spanish to them, and amnesty. 0.97
00:04:56.000 That's actually not true.
00:04:56.000 They want order, not chaos.
00:04:59.000 They want social values that are in alignment with traditional Central American and South American Catholic values, and they're very Catholic populations. 0.79
00:05:08.000 Cut 30, as Biden prepares to lift Title 42, NBC reports that 170,000 migrants, I don't even like that word migrants, they're criminals. 1.00
00:05:16.000 As Biden prepares to lift Title 42, NBC reports that 140 70,000 criminals are waiting in Mexico to illegally cross the southern border.
00:05:24.000 170,000 criminals in a holding pattern.
00:05:26.000 Now, if we had a president, which we don't, that loves the country, which he doesn't, we could easily solve this.
00:05:32.000 Threaten tariffs, mobilize the National Guard.
00:05:35.000 Why is it that we haven't mobilized American troops to the southern border?
00:05:38.000 It's because our leaders don't actually care about the southern border like you do.
00:05:42.000 You see the drugs.
00:05:43.000 You see the crime.
00:05:44.000 You see the criminals.
00:05:46.000 You see the wages going down.
00:05:48.000 You see the deteriorating infrastructure.
00:05:50.000 But for them, they get their private jets and their gated communities and they want to turn America into a colony and make it no longer be a country.
00:05:57.000 Cut 30, please.
00:05:58.000 For more than two years, many migrants have been denied entry because of Title 42, a public health policy enacted during the pandemic by the Trump administration, which expedited deportations back to Mexico.
00:06:10.000 U.S. officials tell NBC News: 170,000 migrants are waiting in Mexico, ready to cross.
00:06:16.000 Well, the White House slips the Title 42 restriction on May 23rd.
00:06:20.000 I mean, they have all these pictures of these people crying.
00:06:22.000 Like, you're a criminal. 0.90
00:06:22.000 Stop crying, honestly. 0.90
00:06:23.000 Like, go back to your country. 1.00
00:06:24.000 Give me a break.
00:06:26.000 Cut 29, Kevin McCarthy has asked, are we going to begin impeachment proceedings against Secretary Mayorkas?
00:06:31.000 Play Cut 29.
00:06:32.000 If Republicans win the House in the midterm, can you become a speaker?
00:06:36.000 Are you going to get impeached proceedings?
00:06:38.000 Look at the Secretary. 0.71
00:06:39.000 Look, we sent a letter to the Secretary.
00:06:42.000 We all only just sent a letter to the Secretary to ask, what is this plan?
00:06:46.000 We're 30 days out.
00:06:48.000 When I talk to the community leaders, they are worried.
00:06:52.000 The mayor is worried.
00:06:53.000 This is his moment in time to do his job.
00:06:55.000 But if any time, if someone is derelict in their job, there is always the option of impeaching somebody.
00:07:02.000 Impeach Mayorkas. 1.00
00:07:03.000 I've said that all along.
00:07:04.000 If you go back, I say, forget about Biden.
00:07:06.000 Start impeaching that Secretary of Education criminal, Garland and Mayorkas.
00:07:12.000 Go after the inner workings of the regime.
00:07:14.000 Go a step, go deeper.
00:07:17.000 Deep state, not just at the surface level.
00:07:21.000 I like to hear that.
00:07:22.000 Jen Saki was asked about this, and she confirms the Biden administration is expecting, quote, an increase in people coming to the border, but they have a six-part plan.
00:07:31.000 They want them to come into the country. 1.00
00:07:33.000 This invasion is sponsored, subsidized, and supported by the Biden regime.
00:07:42.000 Play cut 46.
00:07:47.000 Well, the Department of Homeland Security has projected that there could be an increase in people coming to the border, and that's why they've had a six-part, multi-part plan and proposal and policy they've been implementing for months now to prepare for that.
00:07:59.000 They want this to happen.
00:08:01.000 There's no plan.
00:08:02.000 There's nothing.
00:08:02.000 Mayork gets Cut 47 saying that, well, look, we're going to expect a surge.
00:08:06.000 Play Cut 47.
00:08:08.000 Oh, I think to answer the other part of your question, I think all intelligence suggests that there will be a large increase in the border, yes.
00:08:15.000 Which they are excited about.
00:08:18.000 They want it.
00:08:19.000 It fits their aims and their ambitions, but there's a little glitch here.
00:08:22.000 Progressives and the media are beginning to lose Texas Hispanics in a war against history. 0.98
00:08:28.000 72% of Texas Hispanics view the story of Texas history as their story, including the Texas Revolution, the Alamo, along with the image of the Lone Star State.
00:08:36.000 Now, I do not believe that just because Hispanics are trending in our direction, is that some sort of like, hey, we might as well open up the borders.
00:08:43.000 That's insane, okay?
00:08:44.000 What I'm saying, though, is that it's not as easy as they thought it would be, which is exactly why they're pushing legal immigration in addition to this, because it looks like the Hispanics are actually skewing. 0.98
00:08:56.000 They're still predominantly Democrat, but not by much.
00:08:59.000 It's only like 10, it's only a 10-point gap now, and that gap is narrowing.
00:09:05.000 And I just want to give you a prediction here.
00:09:08.000 I believe in the foreseeable future, we are going to see Democrats lose the Hispanic vote in certain areas across the country.
00:09:17.000 Phoenix is a different area.
00:09:18.000 I don't know what is going on in Phoenix, but in Texas, the Rio Grande Valley, they are feeling it every single day.
00:09:24.000 Now, there might be some different demographic, and I've heard this argument before of the parts of Mexico they come from.
00:09:33.000 I don't know enough about that.
00:09:34.000 We probably could have an expert there that kind of how that plays out.
00:09:37.000 I do know that Central and South American Hispanics, Cubans, people from the Dominican Republic, from Haiti, they're super conservative.
00:09:48.000 They're fundamentally culturally different than people from Central and South America. 0.77
00:09:52.000 And I would imagine trying to paint an entire continent with a broad brush is not just incorrect, it's imprudent.
00:09:59.000 And so I bet there are differences of political views and religious views based on what part of Mexico they come from, what part of Central and South America they come from.
00:10:06.000 I've heard that nuance articulated a couple times before, but not totally built out.
00:10:10.000 So we'll have to have somebody walk us through that.
00:10:12.000 But what we do know is the RGV, the Rio Grande Valley, is trending very far to the right.
00:10:18.000 Arizona, we're not really sure yet with the Hispanic community, but the poorest southern border continues.
00:10:24.000 Now, there could be something of why people are crossing.
00:10:26.000 We know that there's a lot of agricultural illegal invasion that happens in Unlimited.
00:10:30.000 We've got to stop talking about immigration.
00:10:32.000 It's not.
00:10:33.000 It's the illegal invasion problem.
00:10:35.000 When you go and see it for the first hand, when you do, it's really, it's really something.
00:10:43.000 California Hispanics are turning more to the right. 0.67
00:10:45.000 In fact, they were the only demographic to overwhelmingly support the recall of Gavin Newsom, whereas white liberals, they liked Gavin Newsome.
00:10:53.000 Something to think about there.
00:10:56.000 In America, the people are sovereign.
00:10:59.000 You know that when you study the Constitution.
00:11:01.000 You don't have to study it.
00:11:01.000 You just look at it.
00:11:03.000 And my go-to place for the news, my go-to place for what's happening at a deeper level is Hillsdale College.
00:11:09.000 Look, it's no secret that Americans are more divided than ever.
00:11:12.000 It's not just over policies, but what will improve our beautiful country?
00:11:16.000 Now, people are debating whether America is great at all.
00:11:19.000 And look, I got to say, Hillsdale, they go right into it.
00:11:22.000 They have Imprimus, and they send it to you, and it's unbelievable.
00:11:27.000 We get it sent here to our office.
00:11:28.000 I read every single word.
00:11:30.000 Hillsdale College, run by the great Dr. Larry Arn, and they have Imprimus, which is a digest of liberty, and it's so important.
00:11:37.000 Imprimus looks at the issues of the day from a constitutional perspective, reminding citizens always of our great heritage of liberty.
00:11:45.000 For 50 years, Imprimus has featured speeches given at Hillsdale events by the smartest conservative thinkers and writers.
00:11:52.000 These days, Hillsdale publishes people like Victor Davis Hansen, Molly Hemingway, Mark Stein, and Christopher Ruffo.
00:11:58.000 Over 6.2 million American households and businesses receive Imprimus absolutely for free.
00:12:04.000 And I know a lot of you are saying, how do I make sense of all the news?
00:12:07.000 How do I make sense of all this nonsense?
00:12:09.000 Well, Imprimus is the way to do that.
00:12:12.000 And I always look forward to receiving Imprimus, my friends at Hillsdale College, and I want you to get a free subscription.
00:12:16.000 It is free.
00:12:17.000 They send it to your house.
00:12:18.000 So you just go to charlie4hillsdale.com.
00:12:22.000 Maybe you've been to charlieforhillsdale.com.
00:12:24.000 What looks different right now is just a sign-up for Imprimus landing page.
00:12:29.000 That's charlie4hillsdale.com, charlieforhillsdale.com.
00:12:34.000 I can't say enough good things about Hillsdale College.
00:12:37.000 They are a special institution.
00:12:40.000 Go to charlie4hillsdale.com.
00:12:42.000 Portions of this program, the Charlie Kirk Show, are brought to you in part by Hillsdale College, Charlie4Hillsdale.com.
00:12:53.000 Interesting article here, which is from the New York Times.
00:12:57.000 Republicans sense an opportunity in Nevada's restless Latino voters.
00:13:01.000 I totally agree with this.
00:13:02.000 Senator Catherine Cortez-Masto and her allies unveiled their first paid ads of the 2020 election cycle.
00:13:09.000 The Nevada Democrats intended her audience was clear.
00:13:12.000 The state's quarter of a million Latino voters, a critical swing vote.
00:13:16.000 Majority Ford, the nonprofit arm of the Democrat Super PAC, has a Spanish language ad that said keep protecting airing on Telemundo.
00:13:24.000 It hails Cortez-Masto for her work as a Nevada Attorney General and in the Senate to fight sex trafficking rings and protecting our children. 0.93
00:13:31.000 Yeah, right.
00:13:31.000 It's fine.
00:13:32.000 Democrats protecting our children.
00:13:33.000 That's funny.
00:13:34.000 There is a huge opportunity here to be able to win over Hispanic voters.
00:13:39.000 Republicans are beginning to go in the right direction.
00:13:42.000 Talk about children, talk about values, talk about life, talk against the transgender, alphabet mafia stuff. 1.00
00:13:48.000 Hispanics don't like any of it. 1.00
00:13:50.000 Hispanics are very pro-police.
00:13:53.000 They do not like racial disharmony either.
00:13:57.000 Let's go to cut 50.
00:14:00.000 When Biden was asked about Title 42, he just starts rambling about a Department of Justice appeal on airplane mask mandates.
00:14:06.000 Play Cut 50.
00:14:08.000 First of all, there's going to be an appeal by the Justice Department because as a matter of principle, we want to be able to be in a position where if in fact it is strongly concluded by the scientists that we need Title 42, that we'd be able to do that.
00:14:26.000 But there has been no decision on extending Title 42.
00:14:31.000 It's just complete meandering.
00:14:32.000 He's obviously not in charge.
00:14:33.000 We know that.
00:14:35.000 Elizabeth Warren is talking.
00:14:38.000 The thing that's interesting about Warren and Bernie Sanders is that if the socialists were smart, and thankfully they're not, the socialists could be very, very popular if they were socialists with even an inkling of national pride or gratitude.
00:14:54.000 A socialist who says we need to put our country first by taking money away from billionaires and restricting immigration and having strong trade deals, which is what Bernie Sanders used to say, which would be more of a nationalist socialist, would be very popular right now.
00:15:11.000 But the tension between national socialism and international socialism has always existed.
00:15:16.000 But now the international socialists have won.
00:15:18.000 They want the one world order, great reset.
00:15:21.000 And Bernie Sanders, deep down, I think, actually still is a national socialist because he's not actually in charge.
00:15:25.000 He just takes orders.
00:15:27.000 Now, Warren, I actually think is sympathetic to us on the border.
00:15:31.000 Deep down, I think she does want to put people first.
00:15:34.000 I mean, I think she wants to put working people first and all that stuff. 0.82
00:15:36.000 I mean, you just read her early literature, albeit she's kind of a commie, but she really does. 0.55
00:15:41.000 I mean, in her early economic writings, Elizabeth Warren seems to at least have the appearance of a fondness or a soft spot for declining wages and how hard it is to start families.
00:15:50.000 Now, Warren is all on an internationalist global agenda.
00:15:52.000 Same with Bernie Sanders.
00:15:53.000 So the abstract kind of anti-team reality intellectual community has won on every front, including an immigration.
00:16:01.000 Play Cut 49.
00:16:02.000 Look, Title 42 is not consistent with our values and it doesn't keep us safer.
00:16:09.000 The Biden administration is putting plans in place to deal with people who are asking for amnesty and humanitarian relief at the border.
00:16:20.000 Not consistent with our values.
00:16:22.000 It's so funny.
00:16:22.000 Warren and Bernie used to be the most, not Warner herself, but her community.
00:16:27.000 Bernie in particular used to be the most hawkish.
00:16:30.000 You know, Cesar Chavez used to send thugs and goons around California to beat up illegals.
00:16:38.000 It used to be a position of the Democrat Party that porous and open borders are hurting working people and hurting legal immigrants.
00:16:44.000 Now, how and why did that change?
00:16:46.000 Well, it changed because the international socialists, the globalists, the intellectual types, they won the argument.
00:16:53.000 They completed the takeover of the entire party, and there is no space, largely because, space to that kind of viewpoint, largely because that is rooted in what we call wokeism, right?
00:17:03.000 It's rooted in what we call kind of CRT or critical legal theory, where identity to your country is something that's wrong, and we must deconstruct that.
00:17:14.000 Elizabeth Warren, it's not consistent with our values.
00:17:16.000 It's not consistent with our values to punish theft and illegal entry.
00:17:22.000 It's not consistent.
00:17:23.000 It's really interesting.
00:17:24.000 So, Elizabeth Warren, you got to answer this to me.
00:17:27.000 Why were you okay with trying to lock up people that illegally entered the Capitol for the rest of their life?
00:17:33.000 But you say it's against our values to not lock up people that illegally enter our nation and our country. 0.95
00:17:39.000 Why is that?
00:17:40.000 Why is Elizabeth Warren okay calling it an insurrection when someone walks into the Capitol building who's a veteran and takes a selfie of themselves, but a narco-drug criminal, child sex trafficking, fentanyl-carrying vigilante?
00:17:57.000 Well, it's not against our values.
00:17:59.000 No, no, no.
00:18:00.000 What you mean, and you're just saying it differently, you're camouflaging your intentions, Pocahontas, is this, is that it's against the best chances of the Democrat Party.
00:18:13.000 Hey, everybody, towels just don't seem to dry you anymore.
00:18:16.000 They feel soft and lotiony in stores, but you get them home and they don't absorb.
00:18:20.000 Well, Mike Lundell at MyPillow found out that around 2006, towels changed forever.
00:18:25.000 They started importing them and adding softeners and other things to the cotton that made them feel good, but they didn't work.
00:18:30.000 He found the best towel company right here in America.
00:18:32.000 They have proprietary technology to create towels that feel soft but actually work.
00:18:37.000 They are all made with USA cotton and they come with a MyPillow 60-day money-back guarantee.
00:18:41.000 It's a six-piece set, two baths, two hand towels, two washcloths made with USA cotton.
00:18:46.000 They're soft, get absorbent.
00:18:47.000 Regularly, $100,999, not $39.99.
00:18:50.000 Just go to mypillow.com and click on the new radio listener specials and get deep discounts on all my pillow products, including the towels.
00:18:57.000 Enter promo code Kirk.
00:18:58.000 Call 1-800-875-0425 for these great radio specials.
00:19:02.000 That's mypillow.com and click on the new Radio Listener Square, mypillow.com.
00:19:09.000 With us right now is the man behind what is the number one app in the app store.
00:19:14.000 And no, we do not have Elon Musk with us.
00:19:17.000 It is Devin Nunez, who is behind Truth Social.
00:19:20.000 Devin, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:19:22.000 Hey, Charlie, great to be with you and great to be at number one in the app store.
00:19:26.000 It's exciting times for free speech here.
00:19:28.000 Yeah, so we're posting with regularity on Truth Social.
00:19:32.000 So I just got to ask you, what's your reaction?
00:19:35.000 Elon takes over Twitter.
00:19:37.000 One of the reasons that you guys started Truth is just kind of out of the whole lack of speech acceptance in Silicon Valley.
00:19:46.000 So what's your immediate reaction to all of this?
00:19:49.000 Well, look, we're excited about this, right?
00:19:52.000 We were sitting there.
00:19:53.000 I was sitting in Congress running around the country talking about big tech, how we were being silenced, how we were being censored.
00:19:59.000 And I was the first to go to Rumble, which I know you're also on Rumble, Charlie.
00:20:04.000 And I was one of the first to go to Parlor.
00:20:06.000 And I got to see firsthand, I got to live it.
00:20:09.000 I got to see the censorship because once I was free of YouTube and Twitter and Facebook, and I saw how I just went up like a rocket ship on these two new platforms that no one had ever heard of before.
00:20:23.000 And so none of this really surprises me.
00:20:26.000 You know, I came on board in January.
00:20:29.000 You know, President Trump really wanted to give the American people their voice back, open up the internet, and we wanted to make sure that what we come out with was uncancelable.
00:20:40.000 So our goal was by, you know, take the first quarter, do beta testing, which thank you.
00:20:44.000 You were very, very helpful in all of that, in helping us, you know, post.
00:20:48.000 We had people from all over the country that were part of this.
00:20:52.000 And people kept signing up, signing up, signing up.
00:20:55.000 We had a waiting list.
00:20:56.000 And then we finally working with Rumble, using the Rumble Cloud with their technology where we can't be canceled.
00:21:03.000 We're not reliant on any of these big tech companies, not one.
00:21:07.000 And that's the one advantage that we have is that we're going to be the safe place.
00:21:11.000 You're never going to have to worry about anyone canceling us because everything is kept very, very tight with non-woke companies. 0.59
00:21:19.000 And so I think what you're seeing now is kind of the vision that Donald Trump, myself, and others have had, which is to, it's real simple, Charlie.
00:21:27.000 It's we just want to give people their voice back, open the internet back up.
00:21:31.000 We're trying to have a high quality product.
00:21:34.000 We're trying to take the best of what Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook do, put it into a very easy app to use.
00:21:42.000 That's what we're building that can't be shut down.
00:21:42.000 That's our goal.
00:21:45.000 It's about that easy.
00:21:46.000 And now that people are all on, we're only a few days into this, but it looks like people are enjoying the app because we're building a strong community here.
00:21:56.000 So how, if at all, does the Elon kind of factor change your strategy?
00:22:01.000 Well, it doesn't change our strategy at all.
00:22:04.000 I mean, we've, you know, we're all for this, right?
00:22:06.000 I mean, our goal as a company is to open the internet back up, give people their voice back.
00:22:10.000 If you can take one of the bad apples and stop the rot, so to speak, it helps.
00:22:19.000 You know, in terms of Twitter, I mean, it's pretty obvious that just by the engagement that people that are on both platforms are getting, you know, we already have more engagement for almost everyone that's on both platforms.
00:22:34.000 Most people have left Twitter already.
00:22:36.000 You know, the same goes for Instagram.
00:22:38.000 People are still on Instagram.
00:22:39.000 Instagram is a very successful company, has 100 plus million Americans or more that are on it.
00:22:44.000 You know, that's our marketplace.
00:22:46.000 Instagram, Facebook, and TikTok.
00:22:48.000 That's where the people are.
00:22:50.000 That's where the users are.
00:22:51.000 That's what we have to market to.
00:22:53.000 Twitter is a global press release wire, but that's about all it is.
00:22:58.000 It's not really, I don't really view it as a competitor.
00:23:00.000 So we actually, you know, we want to see it succeed.
00:23:03.000 You know, for all practical purposes, we just want to see the rot stopped and hopefully Elon can get in there and fix it.
00:23:10.000 You know, I guess the devil's in the details.
00:23:12.000 I don't know how long it's going to take them to take control of the company, to weed out a lot of bad things that happened.
00:23:18.000 But we want to be as helpful as we can to any company out there that wants to be for free speech and not be cancelable.
00:23:26.000 That's what Truth is trying to do.
00:23:29.000 True Social is trying to, we want to be the rising tide that lifts all boats, right?
00:23:33.000 Anybody who doesn't want to be woke and doesn't want to be canceled, we're here to help.
00:23:37.000 Yeah, and we need competitors. 0.99
00:23:40.000 One of the reasons we got in the mess that we were in is that, oh, Twitter was fine in 16, 17, and then it changes.
00:23:45.000 So we need the kind of marketplace and let it play out.
00:23:49.000 So let me ask you: the president has said he's not going back to Twitter.
00:23:52.000 When will he start posting on Truth?
00:23:54.000 I'm hearing very soon.
00:23:56.000 Yeah, I mean, look, it's up to him, right?
00:24:00.000 We want to make sure that every single day we get better at what we're doing.
00:24:05.000 We want to make sure we're completely secure.
00:24:08.000 But look, he could do it at any point.
00:24:10.000 He said yesterday that he's going to do it in the next week.
00:24:13.000 And my guess is it will be in the next week.
00:24:16.000 But, you know, first of all, if I knew Charlie, I wouldn't tell you or couldn't tell you, but I actually don't know.
00:24:23.000 So it could be at any time.
00:24:25.000 I mean, you know, the president, he likes surprises, but look, he's excited.
00:24:30.000 He wants to be on the platform.
00:24:32.000 I mean, he's getting to see Dan Scovino's on the platform.
00:24:35.000 He's there with the president a lot.
00:24:37.000 So the president gets to see all the comments, everything that's happening.
00:24:41.000 And he wants on.
00:24:42.000 I mean, I talked to him this morning.
00:24:44.000 I mean, he really wants to get on the platform.
00:24:47.000 Yeah, I joke around with him.
00:24:49.000 I say, you know, you made Jack Dorsey a billionaire many times over.
00:24:53.000 I'm glad he now gets to kind of get in on the action.
00:24:56.000 I mean, for years, Twitter was just going down and just totally saved the company and made it more relevant, I should say, than ever.
00:25:03.000 And then Elon kind of goes in with that major, you know, major purchase.
00:25:07.000 So, Devin, I want to ask you just kind of about a couple other things here.
00:25:11.000 So, I want to ask you about the media's reaction to speech.
00:25:15.000 What do you think it says about kind of the kind of dependency the regime has on censorship?
00:25:21.000 This shouldn't be controversial.
00:25:23.000 Elon buys a company, okay, whatever.
00:25:25.000 But, I mean, you experienced it.
00:25:26.000 I experienced it, but they need to be able to shut us up.
00:25:30.000 Isn't that one of the reasons why what you're doing is so important?
00:25:32.000 Yeah, I think the key word you use there is regime.
00:25:38.000 You know, we've got 95% of the supposed news in this country.
00:25:43.000 I call them fake, you know, fake news like many people do.
00:25:46.000 But, you know, they're basically owned by oligarchs.
00:25:50.000 You know, many of these companies are owned by oligarchs.
00:25:52.000 Many of them happen to be tech oligarchs.
00:25:55.000 And so there's really no independent media anymore in this country.
00:26:00.000 It's been, you know, since I got involved in politics 20 years ago, I mean, it just sped up so rapidly.
00:26:07.000 And then you take on top of that, like you said, when you have these woke tech tyrant companies that essentially in 16, after President Trump won, they decided to essentially be completely political, so much so that Facebook put in nearly half a billion dollars of their money to back Democrat and left-wing candidates.
00:26:25.000 Let's just call it what it is.
00:26:27.000 So, I mean, look, I don't think you can take them seriously, Charlie.
00:26:31.000 I mean, I think you know what the reactions are going to be because they have no soul, no moral compass.
00:26:37.000 If you say, you know, like right behind me, you know, the sun's out right now here in Florida, there's blue skies, a few clouds in the air, and they will just look you in the eye and they will tell you it's dark outside.
00:26:50.000 And they don't care.
00:26:51.000 I mean, they just don't care.
00:26:52.000 That's right.
00:26:53.000 You know, it's frustrating, but going through the Russia hoax, the impeachment hoax, being with this company just for the last three and a half months, you know, how many days have you seen over the last since essentially this company was started? 0.99
00:27:09.000 Every single day, all you heard was, you know, it's, you know, they suck. 0.99
00:27:15.000 They're the worst. 1.00
00:27:16.000 Everybody hates it.
00:27:17.000 And yet the whole time, and as you know, as we were doing the beta testing, we were growing, I mean, during beta testing, we surpassed Twitter.
00:27:26.000 During beta testing, we had people surpass Instagram.
00:27:30.000 I mean, it's powerful stuff that I was out there communicating and yet you would see 30, 40, 50 fake news stories, which, by the way, owned by tech oligarchs.
00:27:43.000 Okay. 0.97
00:27:44.000 They were writing stories to say how bad we suck. 0.94
00:27:47.000 So, you know, I just got, I mean, I've been used to it the last five or six years.
00:27:51.000 So, but now that we're fully launched on the Apple App Store, look what's happening.
00:27:56.000 We're number one.
00:27:58.000 And yet it's crickets out there.
00:28:01.000 It's crickets.
00:28:02.000 I don't think they know what to do exactly, Charlie, because they don't know.
00:28:05.000 They're really pissed off about Elon Musk buying Twitter.
00:28:09.000 And they don't know what to do with us because we're number one.
00:28:11.000 We're actually ahead of Twitter.
00:28:13.000 I think they're having a total meltdown, which is why I think yesterday was so good.
00:28:17.000 I mean, what a better day than for all these years.
00:28:20.000 They said, well, you guys are conservatives.
00:28:22.000 You're business people.
00:28:22.000 Why don't you just go build your own company?
00:28:25.000 So we go build our own company and they just attack us.
00:28:28.000 Elon Musk builds his own company, then goes and buys an existing company.
00:28:32.000 I mean, it's really, it's really incredible.
00:28:34.000 It kind of shows you, just like I said, that's really not blue sky and sunshine out there, Charlie.
00:28:40.000 It's actually nighttime.
00:28:42.000 Forget what you're seeing.
00:28:44.000 And they need it to be that way for their agenda to try to be pushed forward.
00:28:48.000 So, but I want to ask you, though, about Apple.
00:28:52.000 And I'm sure you get this question all the time, but I can't remember if we've covered it.
00:28:55.000 You know, you're number one in the Apple App Store.
00:28:57.000 What's to prevent Apple from just executing a parlor against you guys?
00:29:01.000 Yeah, I mean, look, it really is a danger.
00:29:05.000 I think the difference is, though, that Apple is not as, you know, they're not where the other companies are in terms of, and I'm not saying they're not, they don't, I'm not saying they don't have a big monopoly in the marketplace.
00:29:18.000 But look, we're just beholden to them.
00:29:20.000 I mean, it's the bottom line.
00:29:22.000 People, millions of people have iPhones.
00:29:26.000 And I think the difference is, you know, where we are, we are differentiating ourselves that, you know, we want to be a family-friendly place.
00:29:34.000 We want to have actual humans that have accounts.
00:29:38.000 Like we're doing, and I think you see that too on the platform.
00:29:41.000 Our platform is very clean.
00:29:42.000 We're not allowing some fat liberal slob dude to sit in his mom's basement and get paid hundreds of thousands of years dollars a year by some tech left-wing tech oligarch that then controls 5,000 bot accounts on Twitter to then go and attack people they don't like. 0.96
00:29:59.000 We're just not allowing that. 0.90
00:30:01.000 So, and we want free speech.
00:30:03.000 We're not going to censure you politically, but we're not going to tolerate anybody who has fake accounts, bot accounts, spam accounts, and for sure, no illegal activity.
00:30:13.000 Now, that's one of the challenges that we're going to have is they're constantly trying to vector in to our platform and put up illegal content.
00:30:23.000 And so it's one of the things that we're going to continue to develop the technology.
00:30:29.000 So we have sensitive covers.
00:30:30.000 You've probably seen it on our live.
00:30:33.000 It's just a button if you don't, but we put up a little sensitive shield over a post.
00:30:39.000 You can hit the button and it'll bring it down.
00:30:40.000 But you're probably going to see some type of vulgarity, something like that.
00:30:44.000 We're working through it.
00:30:45.000 Sometimes it's a little too sensitive, but that technology will get better over time.
00:30:49.000 So I guess the bottom line is, we have a great relationship with Apple.
00:30:55.000 We want a family-friendly atmosphere.
00:30:57.000 We don't want to be like these other social media platforms.
00:30:59.000 I'm not speaking ill of any of them.
00:31:03.000 We just want to have a clean platform.
00:31:04.000 And that's basically what Apple wants to see happen.
00:31:10.000 It's really out of control.
00:31:11.000 Inflation is at a 40-year high.
00:31:14.000 Your cash is getting sucked right out of your wallet with higher prices on gas, groceries, practically everything.
00:31:19.000 Look, you got to take charge of your money right now.
00:31:21.000 So here's a principle that we say.
00:31:22.000 Don't use the big banks that hate you.
00:31:24.000 Bank of America is canceling conservatives.
00:31:27.000 A team member that we have at Turning Point USA literally just had his bank account shut down by Bank of America.
00:31:33.000 Literally, no longer allowed to use Bank of America because of his politics.
00:31:37.000 True story.
00:31:38.000 So, when you want to consolidate your debt and use equity in your home to do so to lower your monthly expenses, you have to use my friends, Andrew and Todd, at andrewandodd.com.
00:31:48.000 You have to know what you're going through.
00:31:50.000 So, look, I just had dinner with Andrew and Todd in Orange County.
00:31:53.000 We had a great time.
00:31:54.000 They love the Lord.
00:31:55.000 They know the Bible super well.
00:31:57.000 They're ethical.
00:31:58.000 They're beautiful people.
00:31:59.000 They really are.
00:32:00.000 They're wonderful.
00:32:00.000 And Andrew and Todd aren't brokers.
00:32:03.000 They're bankers who handle your refi loan personally from start to finish.
00:32:07.000 And they're always in your corner.
00:32:08.000 In fact, they're helping me with the problem right now.
00:32:10.000 Just all this nonsense with interest rates and all this are helping me clarify it.
00:32:14.000 They're phenomenal to work with.
00:32:15.000 They're responsive.
00:32:17.000 They're Christians.
00:32:18.000 They're conservative.
00:32:20.000 It's AndrewandTodd.com to beat inflation by lowering your monthly expenses and protect your greatest asset, your home.
00:32:26.000 So don't use these woke banks.
00:32:28.000 Bank of America, again, my team member, I'm not going to say his name.
00:32:31.000 You guys know him.
00:32:31.000 He's been on our show.
00:32:32.000 Literally, Bank of America sent him a note saying, we are no longer allowing you to bank with us.
00:32:38.000 Boom, like that, all because of politics.
00:32:40.000 Andrew and Todd at Sierra Pacific Mortgage share your values.
00:32:44.000 I trust them.
00:32:45.000 That's why I work with them.
00:32:46.000 I hang out with them casually and I've got to know them really well.
00:32:49.000 They'll treat you right and that when you use them, you're not using Citibank or Chase or these people that hate your values, that believe in this trans nonsense.
00:32:58.000 Don't use those banks, diversity, equity, inclusion banks.
00:33:00.000 Nope.
00:33:00.000 Andrew and Todd at AndrewandTodd.com.
00:33:04.000 So just write that down right now.
00:33:05.000 Write it in your phone.
00:33:06.000 You might say, oh, Charlie, I don't need to refinance or whatever.
00:33:08.000 Well, maybe you will two months from now.
00:33:10.000 Maybe you young millennials out there, maybe the millennials listening to our show, my fellow millennials, you're going to buy a home soon.
00:33:16.000 Maybe you're getting married and you want to buy something.
00:33:17.000 It's AndrewandTodd.com for a quick mortgage checkup.
00:33:21.000 Use the equity in your home before it's too late.
00:33:23.000 Go to andrewandtodd.com.
00:33:25.000 That's andrewandodd.com.
00:33:26.000 Stop giving money to people who hate you.
00:33:28.000 AndrewandTodd.com love the Lord.
00:33:31.000 They love America and they're great friends.
00:33:34.000 So I encourage you to use them as your go-to partner for anything mortgage-related.
00:33:39.000 Stop using the banks who hate you, andrewandTodd.com.
00:33:45.000 You think more indictments are coming?
00:33:47.000 How high up does this go when it comes to John?
00:33:50.000 Well, we've always known how high up it goes.
00:33:53.000 It goes back to the Clinton campaign, the DNC.
00:33:55.000 Well, no, no, not the campaign, but to her.
00:33:57.000 Do you think it goes to her?
00:33:59.000 Well, it for sure goes to her.
00:34:01.000 I think the question is, is what did she know?
00:34:03.000 When did she know it?
00:34:04.000 Did she give any orders?
00:34:06.000 And plus the top people at the DNC.
00:34:08.000 They all had to know this was going on.
00:34:10.000 Just depends. 0.97
00:34:11.000 And so did the dirty cops, by the way, at the FBI and the DOJ. 0.80
00:34:14.000 So the question is, who knew what when? 0.73
00:34:17.000 And I think, you know, once these guys have to really stare down an actual prosecution, you know, a trial, will they just keep their mouth shut and go to and serve jail time for the DNC, the Clinton campaign, and the dirty cops?
00:34:36.000 Or will they chirp?
00:34:38.000 It also, I think, what you've seen come lately, and Charlie, I've been, I apologize because I've been just a little bit busy here the last few days, but there's been some major bombshells that have dropped from the Durham indictments and this current fight with the Clinton lawyer.
00:34:54.000 And I actually have not read all of the documents, but what I see so far, it seems like there are a lot of smoking guns in terms of emails directly linking the fraud that was being committed between the DOJ, FBI, DNC, et cetera, and Fusion GPS.
00:35:12.000 But it's hard for me to speak directly onto it until I actually have time to review all the documents.
00:35:16.000 And I hope you can accept my apology here.
00:35:19.000 I normally, you know, usually up on the Russia Gate hoax, but right now we've just been a little busy over here at True Social.
00:35:26.000 That's that's that's all right.
00:35:27.000 You're forgiven because you broke the entire thing open, which people have to remember.
00:35:31.000 I have difficulty keeping up with it too, um, and just getting all the actors straight.
00:35:36.000 You got Sussman, you got Bruce and Nelly, or it's almost like intentionally confusing because they think people will lose interest when it's actually Charlie.
00:35:45.000 It's actually because, I mean, we had 14 criminal referrals involving dozens of people.
00:35:50.000 So there were a lot of people that were involved in this at some periphery.
00:35:55.000 Now, the challenge is, as we know, through our, you know, we built circumstantial evidence cases, right?
00:36:03.000 So, which, you know, all amounted ultimately to conspiracy.
00:36:07.000 And that's really the challenge, though.
00:36:09.000 Conspiracy is hard to get an indictment on, but once you do, it really goes out and it's got a long, long, you know, wide web, right, that it casts.
00:36:21.000 So that's going to be the question.
00:36:22.000 It seems to me like Durham knows it's there, knows it happened, has seen what we've had.
00:36:26.000 He's went out and got direct evidence linking all these cast of bad actors together.
00:36:32.000 But, you know, you ultimately got to get one of them to sing on the other to get that direct evidence that could really bring some big-time prosecutions down on those who really had to be in the know in this.
00:36:43.000 And that would have been the people at the top level, the Clinton campaign, DNC, and at the FBI and the Department of Justice.
00:36:50.000 Yeah, I'm seeing that we're getting closer and closer to that.
00:36:54.000 You know, Durham has been going about this methodically and kind of piece by piece.
00:36:59.000 And, you know, a year ago, I said, you know, where is Durham?
00:37:02.000 And it seems as if it's really, it's ramping up.
00:37:06.000 So, and how do you think on top of this?
00:37:08.000 I'm sorry, though.
00:37:09.000 Well, I was the only one.
00:37:11.000 I was kind of standing out there by myself.
00:37:12.000 I was defending Durham.
00:37:15.000 And really, I was about the only guy defending Durham.
00:37:18.000 Even one of our lead investigators, Kash Patel, who helped us, you know, who helped our team on this, kind of uncovering this Russia hoax.
00:37:29.000 All of us, I was about the only one that still had faith.
00:37:32.000 And the reason I had faith in what was happening is because it's the first large-scale investigation with a special prosecutor in my lifetime.
00:37:45.000 And I would say, even going back to the, you know, the Clinton special prosecutor back in the 90s, even that one had leaks.
00:37:54.000 You know, there were constant leaks.
00:37:55.000 It was constantly games in the press.
00:37:57.000 With Durham, you've heard zero.
00:38:00.000 I mean, all you hear are the crickets in the background.
00:38:03.000 And I always thought that that was a very good sign that he was doing his work.
00:38:08.000 And now the question is really just going to be: you know, what can they find the direct evidence on and can they bring conspiracy charges?
00:38:18.000 Any odds on what you think?
00:38:20.000 I mean, look, I have to hope for the best.
00:38:22.000 Yeah.
00:38:24.000 You know, I think the country is really depending on Durham.
00:38:28.000 You know, I think a lot of what happened yesterday with Elon Musk buying Twitter, with us being number one on the app store here at Truth Social, it's a big day.
00:38:38.000 At the same time, though, that's about opening the internet, giving people their voice back.
00:38:42.000 But we also have to have the dirty cops, DOJ FBI, have to be reformed.
00:38:47.000 And this is going to be something that could do it.
00:38:50.000 We'll see.
00:38:51.000 Go download Truth Social, everybody.
00:38:53.000 Devin, God bless you and keep up the great.
00:38:55.000 Thank you.
00:38:56.000 We're going to help you however we can.
00:38:57.000 Okay.
00:38:57.000 Thank you.
00:38:58.000 Thank you.
00:38:58.000 Thanks a lot, man.
00:38:59.000 Appreciate it.
00:39:02.000 Thank you so much for listening, everybody.
00:39:03.000 Email us your thoughts as always.
00:39:04.000 Freedom at charliekirk.com and get involved with turning pointusa at tpusa.com.
00:39:08.000 Thank you so much for listening.
00:39:10.000 God bless.
00:39:13.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk. com.