The Charlie Kirk Show - Exposing the Treason the Swamp is Ignoring with Sara Carter

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00:02:51.000 Hey, everybody, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:02:54.000 Sarah, so excited, Charlie, to be here.

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00:02:58.000 So amazing.

00:02:59.000 I can't even begin to tell you how excited I am to see so many young people out here that actually care, love this country, understand what freedom means and liberty, and are ready to like just move into the future with like with excitement.

00:03:14.000 Yeah, because it's been a tough year for a lot of us.

00:03:16.000 It's been a tough year for them, too.

00:03:18.000 And I think the left thought they could demoralize us.

00:03:20.000 Right.

00:03:20.000 And this is the exact opposite of what they want to see.

00:03:23.000 Excited, energetic young people.

00:03:25.000 Right.

00:03:26.000 Oh my gosh, you brought up such a great point.

00:03:28.000 You're right.

00:03:28.000 There are so many people on the left that were trying to demoralize the Republican Party, conservatives, you know, young independent people that may have not just been on board with what I call now the extreme left, right?

00:03:41.000 Not Democrats.

00:03:42.000 I remember the day where I could talk to Democratic friends and we could discuss issues and topics and come to some type of consensus.

00:03:50.000 That feels like that's over now.

00:03:52.000 And that's such a tragedy for all of us because I feel like now our nation's been just completely robbed or hijacked by this very extreme left.

00:04:01.000 And I think that turning point is a place where young people, and I don't want to say kids, I want to say young people, young adults can find a home and find people that are like-minded and really get on the front lines of a battle that I think is far more important than anything we've ever experienced before.

00:04:17.000 Well, thank you for saying that.

00:04:18.000 And you're on the honorary board of Turning Point USA.

00:04:20.000 I know.

00:04:21.000 I am very honored to be on the honorary board.

00:04:24.000 Well, thanks.

00:04:25.000 So I want to get into something that you're an expert in.

00:04:28.000 Yep.

00:04:29.000 And it is one of my chief frustrations, which is we saw what happened to President Trump.

00:04:35.000 Right.

00:04:36.000 And we suspected it first.

00:04:37.000 And then you were really one of the leading journalists that was looking into this.

00:04:41.000 One of the few.

00:04:42.000 And what do I mean by what happened to President Trump?

00:04:44.000 The spying, the FISA court abuse, all of the crimes committed against President Trump.

00:04:50.000 And we have.

00:04:51.000 I want to say crimes committed against the American people.

00:04:53.000 Yeah, against all the American people, Republicans and Democrats together.

00:04:57.000 And there have been no indictments.

00:05:00.000 Nothing.

00:05:01.000 What is going on?

00:05:02.000 Do we have a Justice Department anymore?

00:05:04.000 Right.

00:05:04.000 Okay.

00:05:05.000 Right.

00:05:06.000 For four years, I've been asking that same question.

00:05:08.000 No, but I have never been so cynical.

00:05:10.000 And that's a terrible place to be.

00:05:12.000 I feel jaded too, and I'm angry, but it took me a while to come to terms with what actually happened.

00:05:20.000 President Trump's election, the American people making their voices heard in 2016, despite everything that the establishment, let's say the establishment, I don't even want to say the left right now because it was both rhinos in Washington, D.C., and Democrats.

00:05:37.000 They worked together to target the president and try to keep him from actually obtaining office, right?

00:05:44.000 Stop the American people.

00:05:46.000 And then afterwards, they targeted him again in his administration.

00:05:49.000 We've seen that ongoing for four years now.

00:05:52.000 What they have done is exposed exactly what Washington is.

00:05:58.000 And for the first time in a long time, we have awoken the American people.

00:06:04.000 Look, if Hillary Clinton would have won in 2016, exactly.

00:06:10.000 Charlie, you, everyone, everything that happened since then, all of the battle, the battlefield, you're in the front lines.

00:06:19.000 I think of Charlie Kirk.

00:06:20.000 I think of you as like a general on the front lines.

00:06:23.000 Right?

00:06:24.000 No, really, to save our country, to save America, to open up people's eyes.

00:06:28.000 But I think with President Trump, and I'm going to be frankly honest with you here, what happened was probably the most disheartening thing for me because as it unfolded, I realized, where's our Justice Department?

00:06:44.000 You asked me, is there a two-tier justice system?

00:06:47.000 Yes, 100%, because there has been nobody with all the evidence that we have shown it's public.

00:06:56.000 I mean, the public was there.

00:06:57.000 They were the jury.

00:06:59.000 The public was the jury.

00:07:00.000 Four years of evidence, and nobody has been indicted yet.

00:07:04.000 How has Peter Struck not been indicted yet?

00:07:06.000 How has he not been indicted?

00:07:07.000 How is, you know, Andrew McCabe, how is James Clapper?

00:07:11.000 James Comey.

00:07:12.000 They lied before Congress.

00:07:13.000 Not only that, Comey leaked classified information to a New York Times reporter, right?

00:07:17.000 Or Washington Post.

00:07:18.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:07:19.000 Well, no, not only did they do that, James Clapper also was a leaker.

00:07:23.000 So we have James Comey leaking to the New York Times, right, through his buddy, his old college roommate who was an attorney in New York at Columbia or professor there, gives the information to the New York Times.

00:07:34.000 We have James Clapper, who basically talked James Comey in early January 2017 to brief President Donald Trump on a lie they knew was a lie.

00:07:47.000 Now we know that.

00:07:48.000 They knew this dossier, this manufactured dossier by Christopher Steele, this former British spy, who, by the way, was still a British spy.

00:07:56.000 You never become a former, and who got information, false information from Russians, paid for by Hillary Clinton and the Democratic National Committee, asked James Comey, you got to brief President Trump on this dossier.

00:08:09.000 And the most salacious part of the dossier, why do you think that was?

00:08:12.000 Because they could not get one journalist in Washington, D.C. to run that story.

00:08:19.000 Because everybody was kind of like, what?

00:08:22.000 I heard about it.

00:08:23.000 We're like, this just doesn't even sound like Trump.

00:08:26.000 I didn't know President Trump at all.

00:08:28.000 I never hung out with him.

00:08:29.000 I never was in New York.

00:08:30.000 That was just not, I was a journalist.

00:08:33.000 But I knew that President Trump won, you know, as a candidate, would probably never do anything that that dossier stipulated happened in Moscow.

00:08:44.000 So what did Clapper do?

00:08:45.000 He leaked it.

00:08:46.000 He leaked the information.

00:08:48.000 And he did it through an actual briefing that he had James Comey do with President Trump in order to solidify it.

00:08:57.000 Then Clapper could go to CNN.

00:08:58.000 He could go to Jake Tapper and say, look, Comey briefed President Trump on this dossier.

00:09:04.000 What happened right after that?

00:09:06.000 We had CNN publishing stories, BuzzFeed, publish the entire dossier.

00:09:11.000 Yeah, that was it.

00:09:12.000 So, Sarah, here's what I'm trying to understand.

00:09:14.000 Some people said that some of this stuff was brought to a grand jury.

00:09:18.000 Right.

00:09:18.000 And a grand jury decided not to indict either McCabe or Comey.

00:09:23.000 Do you find any truth in that?

00:09:24.000 No, I don't.

00:09:25.000 They didn't even, they didn't even want to bring McCabe's charges to the grand jury. 0.96

00:09:30.000 Like, even after Jeff Sessions, who was useless. 0.98

00:09:34.000 Disaster. 0.99

00:09:35.000 Complete disaster.

00:09:36.000 Former Attorney General Jeff Sessions, who was the former senator of Alabama.

00:09:40.000 Everybody knows who he is, I think.

00:09:43.000 But complete disaster.

00:09:45.000 But he fired him.

00:09:46.000 And I remember I was on Laura Ingram that night.

00:09:48.000 I was actually doing Sean and Laura Ingram.

00:09:50.000 And I get the call from the Justice Department that Andrew McCabe is going to be fired because he lied to the IG, to the Inspector General, and all of his investigators.

00:10:00.000 And they caught him in the line.

00:10:01.000 This was in the spring of 18.

00:10:02.000 Right.

00:10:03.000 Good.

00:10:03.000 Good memory.

00:10:04.000 April or May.

00:10:04.000 Yeah, yeah, you're right.

00:10:05.000 And so, so exciting.

00:10:08.000 All this news.

00:10:08.000 We're finally getting somewhere and then nothing.

00:10:12.000 And then nothing.

00:10:12.000 And then McCabe gets a job as a contributor.

00:10:15.000 That's correct.

00:10:15.000 CNN contributor.

00:10:16.000 As a CNN contributor.

00:10:17.000 He did his book deal to book deal?

00:10:20.000 Yeah.

00:10:20.000 Peter Strzok.

00:10:21.000 Book deal.

00:10:22.000 And then McCabe came out with his book like February of 19.

00:10:25.000 Right.

00:10:25.000 60 Minutes.

00:10:26.000 You're right.

00:10:27.000 And I remember running into McCabe in the lobby, this funny backstory.

00:10:30.000 Like, I'd never seen him in person.

00:10:32.000 He never actually ever wanted to talk to me.

00:10:34.000 And you could see why, because I was, he, he actually was very curious.

00:10:38.000 How did, and this is what I heard from sources, how did John Solomon and Sarah Carter know so much about what was going on?

00:10:46.000 What had happened was things just kept unraveling.

00:10:50.000 It wasn't like we knew at the beginning.

00:10:52.000 I didn't even realize how deep this was.

00:10:56.000 I had started with one thing, and sources kept coming forward.

00:11:00.000 And I thought, there is just no way.

00:11:03.000 There is no way that our FBI could once again turn into this mess.

00:11:08.000 And then the more that I looked, the more we kept investigating, the more things unraveled, the more we saw what happened with Andrew McCabe, how he was operating, how Peter Strzzok was operating, Joe Pianka, other people inside the FBI.

00:11:21.000 And I got to tell you, it was the most shocking.

00:11:24.000 It was so shocking to me.

00:11:26.000 But I had faith.

00:11:27.000 I like actually had faith.

00:11:28.000 I thought, you know what?

00:11:30.000 Department of Justice is going to do something.

00:11:32.000 And you were doing the uncovering work similar to what Woodward and Bernstein, is that those names?

00:11:38.000 Yeah.

00:11:39.000 But you were.

00:11:39.000 You were actually uncovering something far more evil than a break-in at a Watergate hotel that the president was roughly aware of.

00:11:46.000 Right.

00:11:47.000 Way more sinister.

00:11:48.000 We're talking about the mass weaponization of the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Pfizer court.

00:11:52.000 I've never said it that way.

00:11:53.000 It was.

00:11:53.000 It was weaponized.

00:11:54.000 And I thought when I started breaking the stories, this is how innocent I was still of the whole thing.

00:12:00.000 I thought to myself, wow, you know, the New York Times is going to run with this because they've got the resources, right?

00:12:06.000 I love my job as a journalist, but I didn't work for the big affiliates.

00:12:11.000 I didn't work for New York Times or Washington Post.

00:12:14.000 In fact, I never really aspired to work for them ever because my job always to me was to be on the front lines, go to the battlefield, cover the U.S.-Mexico border, and do it for the American people, right?

00:12:25.000 Tell the story the best way I knew how to tell it and get the truth out there.

00:12:30.000 But when I started stumbling on what happened with President Trump, I swear to you, Charlie, the first thought that went through my mind was, that's it.

00:12:38.000 I'm going to break the first two stories, and then the New York Times is going to jump on this.

00:12:42.000 The Washington Post, they're going to run with it.

00:12:45.000 It's going to be huge Pulitzers and I'm going to be sitting back going, oh, okay, I did this, you know, I did this small.

00:12:51.000 And there was just no interest in even like covering some of this stuff. 0.73

00:12:54.000 Right.

00:12:55.000 There was no, they didn't even, not only did they not cover it, they were upset that it was being exposed.

00:13:02.000 No, it's even worse than that.

00:13:03.000 They ran disinformation counter messaging against it.

00:13:06.000 They did.

00:13:07.000 They were part of this entire counter messaging saying they still are.

00:13:13.000 Oh, yeah, it was not even ignoring it.

00:13:14.000 So there's three ways that they handled it.

00:13:16.000 It was the worst.

00:13:17.000 Cover it, ignore it, or then not just ignore it, but call anyone who dares cover it a liar, a bad person.

00:13:25.000 A conspiracy theorist. 0.99

00:13:26.000 We're going to destroy your life. 0.97

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00:15:34.000 Yeah, not only do they want to destroy it, they do something worse, far worse than destroying someone's life, Charlie.

00:15:39.000 It's a tactic that is brilliant.

00:15:43.000 And it's part of this.

00:15:45.000 I don't know if it's purposeful or if they just figured it out or if it's part of a disinformation campaign.

00:15:50.000 But what they do is, as soon as you start asking questions, and this is people, look, they hate Trump.

00:15:57.000 We know this.

00:15:58.000 You and I both do.

00:15:59.000 I remember this early on in 2016.

00:16:02.000 I remember columnists and reporters coming up to me saying I was crazy.

00:16:08.000 Trump was never going to win.

00:16:10.000 It was a joke.

00:16:11.000 They were going to write columns about the American people.

00:16:13.000 They think of the American people as deplorables.

00:16:17.000 I actually want you guys to listen to what Charlie and I are saying. 1.00

00:16:20.000 This is very true.

00:16:22.000 I have been to enough parties in Washington, D.C. I've heard enough reporters talk about.

00:16:26.000 They think the American people that voted for President Trump, all 74 million who voted in this 2020 election plus, right?

00:16:35.000 The most of any president ever in history.

00:16:38.000 They think of you as deplorables.

00:16:41.000 They see themselves as elitists.

00:16:43.000 And they worked a disinformation campaign.

00:16:45.000 And what they do is they ostracize you.

00:16:48.000 So the minute you start asking questions like, well, this doesn't make sense to me.

00:16:52.000 I saw this going on in Michigan.

00:16:54.000 We've got all these affidavits.

00:16:55.000 People are really concerned.

00:16:57.000 And then all of a sudden, it's the machine, right?

00:17:00.000 What a bunch of conspiracy theorists.

00:17:02.000 Can't believe it.

00:17:03.000 How do you fight against a cons, you know, once people start targeting you and calling you a conspiracy theorist?

00:17:11.000 The same thing happened with the Russia hoax.

00:17:13.000 But in the very beginning, you know, people, I remember even people at Fox.

00:17:18.000 Sarah, are you sure?

00:17:19.000 Are you 100% sure that what you are saying is accurate?

00:17:24.000 I said, absolutely 100%.

00:17:27.000 My career, my life, my reputation depend on it.

00:17:30.000 I have multiple sources.

00:17:31.000 This is absolutely true.

00:17:33.000 They are targeting President Trump.

00:17:35.000 The dossier is a lie, and they are using it to destroy this administration.

00:17:40.000 You know what?

00:17:42.000 I remember, I remember in the beginning, they tried the same tactic, but it didn't work.

00:17:47.000 Why?

00:17:48.000 Because Devin Nunez, all of the congressional members that had courage, that had courage, Jim Jordan, Mark Meadows, Ted Cruz on the Senate, Ron Johnson.

00:18:00.000 I mean, I know I'm, yeah, Ratcliffe, all of these folks, they got on board.

00:18:05.000 They were fighting.

00:18:06.000 They were looking for information.

00:18:07.000 And then guess what?

00:18:08.000 They couldn't say a thing.

00:18:10.000 It was in their text messages.

00:18:12.000 It was in their emails.

00:18:13.000 We had access to all of their private documents, private notes, scheduling.

00:18:18.000 We could see what happened.

00:18:20.000 Yet, the American people were witnesses.

00:18:24.000 They couldn't say anything because they wouldn't want to leak it.

00:18:27.000 Right.

00:18:27.000 So no.

00:18:28.000 But they leaked up all the time.

00:18:29.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:18:30.000 No, no, no, no.

00:18:31.000 But what happened was you have a media, by the way, that won Pulitzers for their lies working on one side.

00:18:39.000 Then you have everybody else here fighting to get the truth out, right?

00:18:43.000 But you can't compete against this machine.

00:18:46.000 So the only way to compete against the machine is to actually get tangible documents, show them, expose them to the public, and work in concert with our lawmakers and with everyone else.

00:18:56.000 And we were able to do that.

00:18:57.000 But back to your point at the very beginning, right, Charlie?

00:19:01.000 Nobody's paid the price.

00:19:03.000 I say it's sedition and treasonous behavior.

00:19:07.000 But Sarah, I don't know how to process how no one has been indicted.

00:19:13.000 Me neither.

00:19:14.000 So what does this tell us?

00:19:15.000 Just that our justice system is a mirage.

00:19:17.000 It's a farce.

00:19:17.000 And with it, the entire government?

00:19:22.000 I know.

00:19:23.000 No, Charlie, I go through this every day.

00:19:26.000 You know, I was talking, I was out there talking to everyone earlier today, and I was talking about all the young people that have fought for this country, people who have sacrificed their lives, people who have given everything, including my husband.

00:19:38.000 I remember one morning my husband woke up and he said to me, you know, what's really disappointing?

00:19:43.000 And it was, I, you know, I would do anything for my country.

00:19:46.000 I would give my life for my country because of what it stands for, because of the ideals, because it's the freedom and liberty that we have as people.

00:19:55.000 I mean, it's so precious.

00:19:56.000 I don't even know if people who have never experienced a society where you can't even wear a tank top as a woman or speak your own mind without being beaten or having someone drag you through the middle of the street and, you know, literally cut off your nose and your ears because you looked at a man.

00:20:18.000 We've seen this in Afghanistan.

00:20:20.000 We've seen this in other parts of the world, where if you're gay in Iran and they throw you off a building, this country is the only country on earth that affords everybody. 0.93

00:20:33.000 It doesn't matter where you're from. 0.70

00:20:35.000 You could be from Somalia, like Ilhan Omar.

00:20:37.000 We're going to open up our arms to you.

00:20:39.000 You can be from Afghanistan.

00:20:41.000 And I've met so many wonderful Afghan interpreters that worked with our soldiers.

00:20:45.000 And we're going to open up our arms to you.

00:20:47.000 But what happens?

00:20:49.000 And this is the part that makes me so sad.

00:20:51.000 What happens when we sell out?

00:20:54.000 What happens when our own justice department, the one that the whole world looks to, because believe me, it's all about justice.

00:21:01.000 You travel overseas and they say, oh, the United States, my gosh, you have lady liberty, right?

00:21:07.000 Justice is blind.

00:21:09.000 There is no rich.

00:21:11.000 But it was all a fraud.

00:21:13.000 I mean, I believe that we think that we've been teaching a lie.

00:21:18.000 I agree.

00:21:19.000 I've never seen such unbelievable corruption, deception.

00:21:25.000 And I tell people, I say, we don't live in the country that you think you live in.

00:21:30.000 And I don't say that lightly.

00:21:31.000 I know, Charlie, I do too.

00:21:32.000 And it depresses me to think that way.

00:21:35.000 But I'll tell you where I see light at the end of the tunnel.

00:21:38.000 I've been very upset about how this situation unfolded with the president, just like everybody else.

00:21:43.000 I've been just as sad and brokenhearted about the fact that our churches aren't open, that we have lockdowns across this country, that our children, that my daughter went to go, begged me, begged me, begged me, begged me, please mommy take me to see Santa Claus at the mall.

00:21:59.000 She just wanted to tell him three things, and she even asked for other people, right?

00:22:04.000 She asked twice for other people, which was so sweet.

00:22:06.000 She just wanted to see Santa.

00:22:08.000 She had to sit six feet in front of him with a mask on, Santa with a mask on, and they were both doing this, you know, with their hands out and turning their heads.

00:22:17.000 And I just thought, when I looked at that picture, I was like, this is the worst thing I could imagine seeing right now.

00:22:27.000 How is my little girl living in a country that's turning this direction?

00:22:34.000 It's already there.

00:22:35.000 Charlie, the thing that we have that no one else has is that constitution.

00:22:41.000 And it's our ability to fight for what's right.

00:22:44.000 And it's our ability to call out people.

00:22:46.000 And it's up to every single American.

00:22:48.000 And it's up to the young people.

00:22:49.000 It's up to us to pave the way.

00:22:51.000 It's up to you to fight the fight.

00:22:53.000 It's up to us to support one another and to stand up, stop fighting one another, look at what they are doing, take hold of that and win it back.

00:23:05.000 Because our founding fathers did not establish a constitution.

00:23:08.000 We do not have a Bill of Rights for no reason.

00:23:10.000 It's there for a reason, I believe.

00:23:11.000 But I think it's all, I think it's all connected.

00:23:14.000 So if we would have had indictments of Clapper Brennan, then I don't think they would have locked down the country as much.

00:23:20.000 I don't think they would have done the voter fraud.

00:23:22.000 They push us to see how far they can go.

00:23:25.000 And maybe less with the lockdowns, but more with the voter fraud.

00:23:28.000 But if we would have showed that if you dare cross the line and break the law, we are going to prosecute you.

00:23:37.000 And then I have Bill Barr come out.

00:23:38.000 We have Bill Barr, oh, there's no widespread voter fraud.

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00:24:52.000 Yeah, and who are these experts?

00:24:54.000 Like every time I see the experts say on Twitter, when they go after the president or they come after me or they come after whoever, they come after you.

00:25:02.000 I'm like, okay, well, who are these experts?

00:25:04.000 These are not even experts.

00:25:05.000 And you're right about William Barr.

00:25:07.000 I am so disappointed.

00:25:09.000 I believed in the beginning that I... was like, oh, he's so great.

00:25:11.000 He's all this for years.

00:25:12.000 I was like, okay, we'll see.

00:25:14.000 Yeah, we'll see.

00:25:14.000 And you were right to question that.

00:25:16.000 And I have called him out on this.

00:25:18.000 What we have now witnessed is, I believe, is like the worst thing that we could have ever witnessed in a free nation, right?

00:25:27.000 I don't think we're very free.

00:25:28.000 I don't think we're very free.

00:25:29.000 And I have to say that.

00:25:30.000 And this is what I'm trying to tell people: is like, this is ending unless you do something.

00:25:34.000 And this is why we're doing this event.

00:25:36.000 Well, and this is why I'm trying to give that little, even though I'm jaded, even though I'm angry, even though I'm upset, even though I know justice was not served in this case.

00:25:46.000 And even though I know President Trump of all, look, I worked through the Bush administration, Obama, and then President Trump.

00:25:53.000 I have never seen a president that actually followed through with what they said and what they meant and speak directly to the American people like I have with President Trump.

00:26:07.000 And I'm not someone, you know, anybody can look at my past, look at my, it's not like I was hanging out with the Trumps.

00:26:13.000 It's not like I was friends with them beforehand.

00:26:15.000 I have no reason to say this other than the fact that I have witnessed the lies of the previous administrations, both Bush as well as President Obama.

00:26:25.000 I have seen them with very, you know, elegant words and come out and make all these big promises and then stamp all over them and walk away without even a hitch.

00:26:35.000 They don't even care.

00:26:36.000 They do not put America first ever.

00:26:39.000 They put themselves first.

00:26:41.000 It's not even about globalism.

00:26:42.000 It's about themselves and then everybody else and then America.

00:26:45.000 That's inflated narcissism.

00:26:47.000 Exactly.

00:26:47.000 That's exactly what it is.

00:26:48.000 That's exactly what it is.

00:26:49.000 And it's so funny that they always try to turn that on the president.

00:26:51.000 And I say, no, President Trump said, I'm going to move the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.

00:26:58.000 And what did he do?

00:26:59.000 He moved it.

00:27:00.000 He had all these people telling him, I'm going to be World War III. 1.00

00:27:03.000 You know, the Palestinians and Israelis, it's going to be a huge problem. 1.00

00:27:06.000 He said, you know what? 1.00

00:27:07.000 No.

00:27:08.000 No, I promised the American people, I promised our allies in Israel, and I'm going to do that.

00:27:12.000 And guess what?

00:27:13.000 All of a sudden, there's peace.

00:27:15.000 There wasn't World War III.

00:27:17.000 There was the Abraham Accords, right?

00:27:19.000 There's, look at the peace negotiations with Morocco now.

00:27:23.000 Look at how far we've come.

00:27:25.000 Historically, he will be remembered always as probably one of the greatest presidents of modern times.

00:27:33.000 That is a fact.

00:27:34.000 For his courage, more than anything else.

00:27:37.000 His courage and his ability to communicate, to not only be courageous, but to talk directly to the American people and understand them.

00:27:46.000 You know, it's hard.

00:27:48.000 People always said, Well, how is it that he's a billionaire?

00:27:51.000 And how is it that he's like the American people are connecting with him?

00:27:55.000 And these are people that were either never Trumpers or people that didn't like him.

00:27:59.000 And I said, Because he knows what it's like to work hard.

00:28:03.000 He didn't put himself in this upper echelon.

00:28:07.000 He actually knows the worker.

00:28:09.000 He knew from his own business experience, from what I can see, and from the way people talked about him, because when I went to Trump Tower to interview them, I remember his security staff or people that have known him forever that aren't, you would never think they would have ever met President Trump, right?

00:28:25.000 They're like, he's such a great guy.

00:28:27.000 He always asks me how my family is.

00:28:29.000 He always wants to know how my kids are doing.

00:28:32.000 He actually cares.

00:28:34.000 And he actually just cuts out the middleman.

00:28:37.000 And that's why the Washington Post and the New York Times hate him because he cuts them out.

00:28:42.000 He's like, look, guys, we don't need to go to them to deliver a story.

00:28:46.000 I'm going to go to Twitter and I'm going to talk to the American people.

00:28:49.000 And for the first time, the American people are like, oh, breath of fresh air.

00:28:52.000 Thank you, God, for somebody that's actually listening to me.

00:28:57.000 And I think that I think Trump's presidency gives and should give a lot of people reason to hope.

00:29:04.000 And the question is for everyone watching and listening is, are you going to let the institutions win?

00:29:10.000 And the answer currently is yes.

00:29:12.000 Because we don't have a Republican Party in our country.

00:29:12.000 Right.

00:29:16.000 We have Brian Kemp and these people that are completely worthless that ask for our help and ask for our support.

00:29:21.000 We don't have a U.S. Senate that's worthwhile.

00:29:24.000 So I hope Lawfler and Purdue win because I think Democrats are worse.

00:29:28.000 And at least it'll give us, I mean, even if we see Fraud, and this is what I tell people in Georgia all the time, you know, if you don't vote, you will not have to do it.

00:29:36.000 And I think that what some people have been doing, I think, is nonsense, telling them not to go vote.

00:29:41.000 But I'm just telling you where about 30 to 40 million Trump voters are right now.

00:29:41.000 Me too.

00:29:47.000 They don't trust any of their government.

00:29:49.000 They don't trust any of their elections.

00:29:50.000 They don't trust any of their media.

00:29:52.000 They don't ever want to vote again.

00:29:53.000 You know, but the country can't exist.

00:29:54.000 And like, that's what people have to understand.

00:29:56.000 Like, this is not normal.

00:29:58.000 Like, this is, this stuff has a compounding effect, right?

00:30:01.000 Where all of a sudden you're like, wait a second, everything I've been told is a lie.

00:30:05.000 The one guy I trusted was spied on, had a coup launched against him, impeached.

00:30:11.000 No one was held accountable for that.

00:30:13.000 He ran valiantly.

00:30:14.000 They sent an epidemiological Pearl Harbor against him, and then they cheated the election away from him.

00:30:19.000 And so, how are you supposed to process that? 0.58

00:30:23.000 And I know.

00:30:24.000 I know.

00:30:25.000 And I can't.

00:30:25.000 Sometimes that's why I remember coming here to Turning Point and thinking, like, how am I going to address the crowd, right?

00:30:33.000 What do I say to them?

00:30:35.000 I mean, because we've all been robbed.

00:30:37.000 Yes.

00:30:38.000 We've all been robbed.

00:30:39.000 And it's not just about the election.

00:30:41.000 It's like they're robbing our nation.

00:30:43.000 They're robbing the spirit of our country, what it stands for.

00:30:47.000 This is about the people.

00:30:48.000 I always say, you know, President Trump works for you.

00:30:52.000 He is your employee, right?

00:30:55.000 We are the employers.

00:30:57.000 We're the ones that are supposed to be putting people in office, putting them there and expecting that they deliver for us.

00:31:06.000 And that's what he's doing.

00:31:08.000 But what happens when you realize and you wake up all of a sudden and you're like, well, wait a minute.

00:31:12.000 No, that's not the case.

00:31:15.000 I hired you.

00:31:16.000 I pay you with my tax dollars, John Durham.

00:31:19.000 Yes.

00:31:20.000 I pay you with my tax dollars, William Barr.

00:31:24.000 Yes.

00:31:24.000 Right?

00:31:26.000 And you have cheated me of what I believed in, which was liberty, justice, freedom, and the presidency.

00:31:35.000 And now I'm supposed to just sit back and be like, okay, we just got to concede.

00:31:40.000 We all have to get along.

00:31:42.000 Let's just move on, folks.

00:31:44.000 Nothing to see here.

00:31:45.000 But the problem is, see, what they're not expecting, Charlie, is you and everyone else that's been awoken, right?

00:31:53.000 And all of the people that are like, no, it's not going to happen.

00:31:58.000 I agree.

00:31:58.000 I think there's three things we have to get right, though.

00:32:01.000 The first is the tech issue, mail-in ballots, and then how they abuse the kind of the indictment process to destroy people.

00:32:09.000 They're doing that with Steve Bannon.

00:32:11.000 They did that with Roger Stone.

00:32:12.000 If we don't, they're going to put us all in prison.

00:32:14.000 Right.

00:32:14.000 And I don't say that metaphorically.

00:32:16.000 No, no, no.

00:32:17.000 I actually have talked to people that are like, Sarah, are you concerned now?

00:32:20.000 Yeah, we're all.

00:32:21.000 Congressional members, we are all getting targeted.

00:32:23.000 That's a fact.

00:32:23.000 I believe that.

00:32:24.000 And you know what?

00:32:25.000 They can say that we're making that up.

00:32:26.000 They could say that we're just, no, we're not imagining that.

00:32:29.000 You saw what happened.

00:32:30.000 Dinesh D'Souza, Roger Stone, Steve Bannon.

00:32:32.000 Right.

00:32:33.000 I mean, the list is endless.

00:32:34.000 It's long.

00:32:35.000 And yet they do whatever they want.

00:32:36.000 And you're absolutely right.

00:32:37.000 If we don't fix that, then they're just going to take everyone out.

00:32:40.000 So the thing is, how do we fix that? 0.77

00:32:42.000 We start indicting their people. 0.99

00:32:44.000 Right.

00:32:45.000 And so go find some attorney general in Arkansas to go indict Hunter Biden.

00:32:50.000 Right.

00:32:50.000 Because he's committed crimes in Arkansas, like returning rental cars with drug paraphernalia in it.

00:32:55.000 The point is that there would be a stasis and all of a sudden, oh, okay, we can't do politically motivated indictments.

00:33:01.000 Yeah, you can't.

00:33:02.000 No, they can.

00:33:03.000 They actually can because what happened with Hunter Biden goes far beyond just his own drug habits and terrible demeanor that goes along with those drug habits.

00:33:13.000 It was exposing our nation's national security to China and making his father vulnerable.

00:33:20.000 You know, he's never going to jail, right? 0.94

00:33:22.000 Oh, no, he will never go to jail.

00:33:24.000 I mean, people are like, oh, yeah, what world do you think you live in where these people get held accountable?

00:33:29.000 Well, I got to tell you, I have friends in other countries because I work there and they're still my sources.

00:33:34.000 And they were saying, you know, Sarah, guess what?

00:33:38.000 Welcome. 1.00

00:33:39.000 Welcome to Pakistan. 1.00

00:33:41.000 That's exactly right. 1.00

00:33:42.000 I was like, this is so sad.

00:33:44.000 I know.

00:33:44.000 Now they're overseas saying your election was basically stolen.

00:33:50.000 Yes.

00:33:51.000 You're wealthy or those powerful people in the bureaucracy like Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, aren't being indicted.

00:33:59.000 They're not being taken to jail.

00:34:01.000 There's no investigation.

00:34:03.000 Your president was played by a disinformation campaign that would have literally required a presidential signature if it was conducted against another country.

00:34:14.000 That's correct.

00:34:15.000 I mean, they weaponized our intelligence apparatus and our law enforcement, and they spread disinformation across the globe on a campaign and then a president-elect and then a president of these United States.

00:34:30.000 And his team.

00:34:31.000 And his team putting their lives in jeopardy, putting their administration in jeopardy, and making them struggle for four years against baseless lies.

00:34:43.000 Yes.

00:34:43.000 Baseless, we know are baseless.

00:34:46.000 And anybody out there who even thinks for one moment, I hope you're listening to this, like people who would actually believe that, hope you accidentally just came across this.

00:34:54.000 You know, just look at all of the reports, the IG reports, Devin Nunez, my stories, the stories that John Solomon wrote, the stories that are out there that Molly Hemingway, everybody, I can just name names.

00:35:07.000 The truth is there.

00:35:09.000 It's exposed for the public.

00:35:11.000 But nobody was held accountable in one of the most egregious crimes against the United States.

00:35:16.000 Well, I hope that Durham will do something.

00:35:19.000 I guess that's the only hope we have.

00:35:21.000 Well, we don't have much hope there.

00:35:24.000 And I mean, I'm not trying to be negative, but I don't know what kind of power Durham's going to have under, you know, if it happens to go.

00:35:32.000 I know.

00:35:32.000 I call him media, media president-elect.

00:35:35.000 That's what I call Biden, media, president-elect.

00:35:38.000 Biden, you know, what kind of teeth will any kind of special counsel have?

00:35:44.000 I don't believe it.

00:35:45.000 I think Durham and William Barr failed us.

00:35:47.000 I think they should have exposed everything and they could have early on.

00:35:52.000 I think they played our country.

00:35:54.000 And I'm very disappointed.

00:35:56.000 And I'm sad that I stood up for William Barr in the beginning.

00:36:00.000 And I'm disappointed in myself.

00:36:02.000 I wanted to have hope in him and I believed what people were telling me.

00:36:07.000 But I think now we can't let it weigh us down.

00:36:12.000 We can, of course, be upset about it, but we got to take that energy and harness it.

00:36:17.000 And we have to fight for our country because we're fighting for an idea.

00:36:20.000 Who cares about these people, right?

00:36:21.000 We're going to get them out.

00:36:23.000 America is bigger than them. 0.98

00:36:26.000 America will find a way.

00:36:28.000 She is worth fighting for.

00:36:30.000 Too many people have spilt blood to keep our country going, right?

00:36:34.000 And so I'm not going to give up.

00:36:36.000 I know you're not going to give up.

00:36:38.000 I know we, you have how many?

00:36:40.000 How many young people?

00:36:41.000 Hundreds of thousands.

00:36:42.000 Hundreds of thousands of young people across the country and millions of people across our country that are going to be like, for once now, we have something really to fight for.

00:36:52.000 Amen.

00:36:53.000 Right?

00:36:53.000 SarahCarter.com, right?

00:36:55.000 Yeah, saracarter.com.

00:36:56.000 I know everyone forgets the A, but SarahACarter.com.

00:36:59.000 Thank you so much.

00:37:00.000 Thanks, Sarah.

00:37:00.000 Thanks for joining us.

00:37:01.000 Charlie, you're the best.

00:37:02.000 Thank you.

00:37:06.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:37:07.000 Please email us your questions, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:37:10.000 And if you want to support us, go to charliekirk.com slash support.

00:37:13.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:37:15.000 God bless.

00:37:16.000 Speak to you, sir.

The Charlie Kirk Show - December 22, 2020

Exposing the Treason the Swamp is Ignoring with Sara Carter

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