The Charlie Kirk Show - Fake "Christians" Who Fear Death More Than God with John Zmirak

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, John Germack joins us to talk about weak liberal Christians, Donald Trump, and more.

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00:01:03.000 We have a very special guest, very thoughtful guest, someone who writes prolifically.

00:01:09.000 It's John Zermack.

00:01:11.000 Did I say that right, John?

00:01:12.000 Your last name's a challenge.

00:01:14.000 Nobody ever has, so it's okay.

00:01:16.000 It's never been pronounced in the history of your commentary.

00:01:19.000 John, I'm thrilled.

00:01:21.000 No, go ahead.

00:01:21.000 Once a year.

00:01:22.000 Once a year, the Jewish high priest pronounces my name correctly, but in a room by himself.

00:01:29.000 John, honored to have you.

00:01:30.000 It's Samirak. 0.56

00:01:32.000 Jamirak.

00:01:32.000 Jameerak.

00:01:34.000 It's going to take all our John.

00:01:36.000 Is super smart.

00:01:37.000 He writes for the stream.

00:01:39.000 And I encourage you guys to check out his work at stream.org.

00:01:43.000 So, John, several directions we could take there.

00:01:45.000 Why don't you introduce yourself, your work, your scholarship, and we'll go from there.

00:01:50.000 All right, thanks.

00:01:51.000 Well, I'm a native New Yorker from Astoria Queens, from not that far away from Donald Trump.

00:01:56.000 And in many ways, it's like when he was in office, it was like having my dad as president.

00:02:01.000 They had the same accent.

00:02:05.000 When I got into Yale, when I was at the same time as Eric Metaxas, my good friend, I had to work hard to get rid of the accent. 0.99

00:02:11.000 Where to get rid of my Queen's accent?

00:02:13.000 I didn't even think I had an accent.

00:02:15.000 So I sat there and I went, run insane, holes in the on the flame, like trying to talk like Thurston Howell from Gilligan's Island.

00:02:23.000 And I kind of came out with a neutral accent after that.

00:02:26.000 So I got my back.

00:02:26.000 I was the editor of the conservative paper at Yale, made me super popular.

00:02:30.000 Dating was easy.

00:02:32.000 And then I went and got my PhD in literature at Louisiana State University, worked as the press secretary for Mike Foster, who won as the insurgent populist candidate for governor.

00:02:44.000 He was pro-life and pro-gun.

00:02:46.000 So I got the job by proposing the bumper sticker, Arm the Unborn, with a fetus holding a 45 on the doctor. 0.61

00:02:53.000 Well, that tells you everything you need to know about John.

00:02:56.000 So, John, you have several stories here, and you defend Donald Trump, and you talk about religion, you talk about politics, about culture.

00:03:06.000 There's so much happening that I want to unpack with you.

00:03:08.000 Let's go to this one.

00:03:09.000 Liberal Christians see us as pets who need to be declawed.

00:03:14.000 The last person, the last person left supporting New Mexico's gubernatorial gun grab is hapless local Catholic archbishop.

00:03:21.000 Tell us about this piece, John.

00:03:22.000 Yeah, so by now, the governor, Governor Grisham of New Mexico, has already been forced to climb down.

00:03:30.000 But here's what she did: she said, gun violence is a public health emergency.

00:03:36.000 And when you hear the words public health, you're supposed to curl up in a fetal ball in the corner and just do whatever you're told.

00:03:43.000 It's learned helplessness.

00:03:45.000 The COVID panic experiment was designed to beat learned helplessness into us the way they do with beagles in Fauci's cruel and destructive labs.

00:03:58.000 Many Americans were willing to give away their rights with both hands.

00:04:01.000 Oh, you can lock me in the house.

00:04:03.000 You can close my church.

00:04:04.000 You can have riots, but because they're anti-racist, they promote public health.

00:04:08.000 But you can say my political meetings are super spreader events.

00:04:12.000 You can say my churches are inessential, but your liquor stores, strip joints, and abortion clinics are essential so they stay open.

00:04:20.000 And you can dump virus patients in nursing homes where they kill tens of thousands of American veterans and grandmothers, but you keep healthy, vigorous kids home from school.

00:04:32.000 And you can use the death statistics that you've pumped up by dumping virus patients in nursing homes.

00:04:39.000 You can use that to say there's a state of emergency like Whitmer did in Michigan, Cuomo did in New York, Newsom did in California.

00:04:49.000 In Michigan, she locked everyone in their homes.

00:04:52.000 She had people arrested for taking going out alone on a boat in the middle of a lake.

00:04:56.000 People were arrested for that.

00:04:59.000 Her actions were later ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court of her state, but she wasn't punished.

00:05:06.000 Who was punished?

00:05:07.000 The people the FBI lured into a fake plot to arrest her and hold a trial of her for tyranny.

00:05:14.000 That's right.

00:05:14.000 So you connect the liberal Christian aspect of this.

00:05:18.000 So kind of square that, put that all together.

00:05:20.000 During the COVID panic, Andrew Cuomo tried to seize America, New Yorkers' guns, claiming that they were part of the same public health crisis as COVID.

00:05:30.000 The rhetoric that gun grabbers are using is constantly that of public health.

00:05:37.000 Guns are like viruses. 1.00

00:05:39.000 Gun owners are like virus spreaders. 1.00

00:05:42.000 If they can take away your right to congregate, to go to church, to have a political meeting, they can also take away your right to carry a gun.

00:05:50.000 No Second Amendment, no first. 0.93

00:05:52.000 And my new book coming out from Calamo Press is called No Second Amendment, No First.

00:05:59.000 And it's about how gun rights in America are not some libertarian thing, some enlightenment thing.

00:06:07.000 They flow directly from the Christian worldview.

00:06:10.000 The Christian worldview says you are a little lower than the angels.

00:06:15.000 You are an image of God.

00:06:17.000 You have rights that are inalienable.

00:06:19.000 You have the right to self-defense, to defend your family, and you collectively have a right to rebel against tyranny.

00:06:26.000 That's how America was founded.

00:06:28.000 America's founders, 90% of whom were Orthodox Christians, Calvinists, or a few Catholic, 90% of them were Orthodox Christians.

00:06:39.000 They believed that people had the God-given right to rebel against a tyrannical government.

00:06:45.000 They'd seen the English do that in 1640 and 1688.

00:06:51.000 Now, America's Second Amendment was lifted almost word for word from the English Bill of Rights of 1690.

00:07:00.000 That was the Bill of Rights when they overthrew King James II because they were afraid he would impose Catholicism on the country by force.

00:07:07.000 They brought in his daughter Mary and her husband William, who would be Protestant monarchs, who would govern with parliament controlling them, a constitutional monarchy.

00:07:17.000 And one of the conditions of them getting the throne was they had to sign this Bill of Rights.

00:07:23.000 And one of the items on that Bill of Rights was that no Protestant could be denied the right to have firearms.

00:07:29.000 They specified Protestant because Calvinists, Puritans, low church Anglicans had been persecuted under Charles I and Charles II, and they were afraid of a king persecuting them, closing their churches, killing them, as has happened as the King Louis XIV had done to Protestants in France.

00:07:49.000 So the connection between religious freedom and gun rights was right there in the English Bill of Rights.

00:07:55.000 They imported it almost word for word to our Second Amendment. 0.52

00:07:58.000 And every one of our founders, the Federalists, the Anti-Federalists, the Deists, the Augustinian, the Catholic, all agreed that gun rights were fundamental.

00:08:08.000 They were the backup plan, the sprayed glass in case of emergency clause that would prevent a tyranny from ever coming to power in America.

00:08:19.000 And James Madison actually said, if all the checks and balances, all the constitutional guarantees fail, at least you'll have an armed citizenry, a militia of 2 million that would prevent a tyranny from taking charge.

00:08:33.000 Well, history bore them out.

00:08:35.000 In the 20th century, actually between 1914 and 1990, more than 170 million civilians were murdered intentionally by their governments around the world, not including war casualties.

00:08:47.000 And they only had one thing in common.

00:08:50.000 This was documented by R.J. Rummel in his book, Death by Government.

00:08:53.000 The one common factor of those 170 million victims, they had all been disarmed by the government first.

00:09:00.000 Now, liberal Christians who don't believe fundamentally in the traditional Christian worldview, they've read Darwin and they take Darwin seriously.

00:09:10.000 They believe that we just kind of evolved accidentally from apes and somehow we can still be Christians, even if we believe that God had nothing to do with man evolving.

00:09:22.000 We Christians, we can't say how the world really works.

00:09:26.000 Darwin tells you how the world works.

00:09:28.000 Freud, Marx, they explain how the world works.

00:09:31.000 We're just here to tell you to be nice, to tell you not to be racist, to tell you to be inclusive.

00:09:37.000 That vision of man as just an accidental byproduct of evolution, it doesn't have dignity.

00:09:43.000 It doesn't have rights.

00:09:45.000 It doesn't have, it's not a glimmer of the divine spark.

00:09:49.000 It's just like a termite in a colony that should obey the queen.

00:09:54.000 These Christians, like the Catholic Archbishop of New Mexico, of Santa Fe, who's the only person to support the gun grab by the governor of New Mexico.

00:10:04.000 I mean, David Hogg condemned it on Twitter as being too over the top.

00:10:09.000 David Hogg thought this was too radical.

00:10:12.000 Her own sheriff, her own attorney general wouldn't defend it in court, wouldn't enforce it.

00:10:16.000 She finally had to withdraw it.

00:10:18.000 The only person who came out for it is Archbishop John Wester of Santa Fe.

00:10:23.000 And why is that?

00:10:26.000 Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here.

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00:11:29.000 John, finish that thought.

00:11:30.000 That now ties in the liberal archbishop.

00:11:33.000 Orthodox Christianity says that man has a fundamental dignity.

00:11:37.000 He has the right to push back against tyranny.

00:11:39.000 It also says that man lives on a very narrow road between heaven and hell.

00:11:45.000 And we're walking on one of two paths.

00:11:47.000 And every moment we're walking one direction or another towards God or towards destruction.

00:11:52.000 It says that there's a set of rules that is written on our heart, the natural law, in addition to what was revealed in the Bible and through church tradition about how we're supposed to live.

00:12:04.000 These are very stark and demanding claims, and they sometimes lead the church to get persecuted by the government.

00:12:11.000 As the Catholics were persecuted in Poland under communism, the Orthodox in Russia, Christians in Germany by Hitler, those who were willing to stand up, those who were willing to denounce the Holocaust.

00:12:24.000 But in Germany, there were a lot of German Christians who were willing to just go along, just keep their voices down and just sing their hymns a little louder and just stick to the gospel, not preach about politics.

00:12:36.000 And those are the people who, according to Eric Bonhoeffer, made the Nazi regime and ultimately the Holocaust possible because they took their faith and put it in a safe little velvet box and put it up on a shelf. 0.76

00:12:50.000 When our churches closed for the COVID tyranny, when the Vatican said that an abortion-tainted vaccine that could only exist because of organs stolen from an aborted baby, when it said Catholics all should get that vaccine, when countless pastors, even conservative evangelical pastors, demanded that everybody get this vaccine, I call it the dead baby vax, they were surrendering. 0.83

00:13:19.000 They were saying, we're just kidding.

00:13:21.000 We don't really think Christianity is fundamentally important.

00:13:25.000 We don't really think it's worth taking any risks that might irritate the government, might get our nonprofit contracts with the federal government canceled, that might get us investigated, that might get our tax exemption threatened.

00:13:38.000 No, we are chaplains of the regime, just the way the patriotic church in communist China is.

00:13:45.000 It works with the government.

00:13:46.000 It doesn't push back against the government.

00:13:49.000 So if you are that kind of liberal Christian who doesn't believe in heaven and hell, but is obsessed with the IRS and federal nonprofit contracts, you want everybody to be a timid declawed cat, a placid little veel calf just like you, letting the nice people from the government push them around as if we were animals and only those in the government and the elites were actual human beings.

00:14:18.000 So, John, that begs the question, and I just want to make sure everyone understands, sing your hymns a little louder.

00:14:24.000 That's a real thing that happened as the trains were going by churches, as the trains were bringing Jews to concentration camps.

00:14:31.000 The churches, this is a real story, they would increase the volume of their hymns to drown out the noise of what they knew was evil.

00:14:39.000 Tell us more about that.

00:14:40.000 There's a powerful film that my good friend Jason Jones helped to make called Sing a Little Louder, and it depicts this anecdote.

00:14:49.000 A German remembered and told the story 20 years later of they had a church right by the train tracks leading from Germany into Poland where the extermination camps were.

00:15:00.000 And the train got stuck.

00:15:03.000 And so the cars were there and you could hear these women and children and old men, some of them heroic war veterans who fought for Germany in World War I, some of them with iron crosses, whom Hitler had criminally arrested and was deporting to murder in Poland.

00:15:20.000 They were crying out for help.

00:15:22.000 And it was disrupting this nice, peaceful Sunday Lutheran church service.

00:15:27.000 And some people were thinking, should we go out and help them?

00:15:31.000 And the pastor knew that would just be suicide. 0.99

00:15:34.000 It would get them all killed and it wouldn't even help the Jews because they'd all be dead. 1.00

00:15:38.000 So he just had them sing their hymns about Christian compassion and mercy a little bit louder to drown out the sounds of the Jews on their way to being murdered. 0.99

00:15:50.000 When our churches shoved an experimental vaccine in our arm that we didn't need, that wouldn't prevent transmission, that might in some cases diminish some symptoms that had untold, unknowable side effects because it had never been tested.

00:16:08.000 When they gave it to pregnant women, knowing that's dangerous, when they forced people to take an experimental drug against their will in violation of the Nuremberg principles invented after World War II to prevent Nazi-style experimentation on humans, they were singing a little louder. 0.81

00:16:26.000 When churches don't try to protect the unborn, when they don't try to protect all of our rights, including our right to defend ourselves against violence or against a tyrannical government, they are singing a little louder.

00:16:40.000 They're singing a little louder, trying to drown out the transification of kids, the chemical castration of kids. 1.00

00:16:46.000 And in fact, it's even worse than that, John.

00:16:48.000 And we're going to play some pieces of tape of the churches that are then flying the equivalent of the Nazi flag today. 0.51

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00:18:10.000 So, John, I want to play a piece of tape here of the American church worse than just singing louder, drowning out the noise. 0.95

00:18:18.000 No, it is a full, this is the Cathedral of Hope in Dallas, which I would find hard to believe.

00:18:25.000 I don't think this is a Catholic church.

00:18:28.000 I don't think.

00:18:30.000 No, no.

00:18:31.000 Let's play cut 44.

00:18:31.000 Let's play this.

00:18:32.000 We recognize that all people are made in the loving image of God, no matter who they are, how they dress and express themselves, or who they love.

00:18:43.000 We celebrate this divine university and commit to lifting up the voices of the LGBT and creating spaces.

00:19:07.000 We honor their strength and blessed to be allies to the drag community, recognizing their full humanity and their incredible contributions to our world.

00:19:20.000 We embrace radical inclusivity and work to dismantle systems of oppression who fight against all forms of hate and prejudice and violence in order to build the world that learns that celebrates every person's beach, identity, and that is indistinguishable, John, from...

00:19:45.000 I'm sorry.

00:19:46.000 I gotta pause. 0.97

00:19:47.000 That is the funniest damn thing. 0.99

00:19:49.000 These people, they could be at a bar drinking whiskey and watching horse racing. 0.98

00:19:54.000 They could be doing anything more fun than this grim, miserable ritual of worship before the infernal trinity of Caesar, Mammon, and Sodom.

00:20:08.000 This is one of those dead mainline Protestant churches that started, first of all, they embraced Darwinism and said, Genesis is not true on any level.

00:20:19.000 So God didn't really make man on purpose.

00:20:22.000 There's no original sin.

00:20:23.000 So we didn't really need Jesus to come save us from anything.

00:20:27.000 His death on the cross was just an avoidable tragedy, and it was a real shame.

00:20:32.000 He didn't really rise from the dead, but he comes to life in our spirit when we think about him, kind of like Tinkerbell.

00:20:39.000 If you applaud, Tinkerbell continues to float around.

00:20:43.000 So unfortunately, Pope Francis is remaking my own Catholic church on the model of these zombie mainline Protestant churches. 0.97

00:20:52.000 What's really pitiful is if you look at all these people talking about human potential and unique individuality, they all support aborting babies up through the ninth month of pregnancy. 0.85

00:21:05.000 These same people who are blathering on about the unique virtues and authenticity of men who strap on fake boots, these people are happy to see doctors cut open babies' brains with scissors and cut off their necks.

00:21:22.000 They're happy to see their organs sold by Planned Parenthood to organ trafficking companies and used to make things like the COVID vaccine.

00:21:30.000 They're perfectly happy.

00:21:31.000 They've got blood on their hands dripping from their hands and they're washing it like Pontius Pilate in this watery bath of fake tolerance. 0.69

00:21:43.000 The only tolerance they have is for sex deviance.

00:21:46.000 They said, we don't want to condemn people because of what they wear.

00:21:49.000 Really?

00:21:50.000 Really?

00:21:50.000 If I wore a Gadson flag patch or a Confederate patch, would you say the same thing that we don't want to discriminate against people because of how they dress?

00:22:00.000 No.

00:22:00.000 In fact, they want to fire people if they misgender so-called trans people.

00:22:07.000 They want to control the speech, the actions, the financial transactions of everyone in the country.

00:22:16.000 They're happy to see Sam Brownback stripped of his bank account by Chase Manhattan because Chase Manhattan decided they don't like his politics.

00:22:23.000 These people are the court gestures of tyranny, of globalist, suffocating, micromanaging tyranny led by people like Bill Gates and George Soros.

00:22:36.000 And I have to say, Pope Francis.

00:22:38.000 They want to control everything we say and do.

00:22:41.000 They want to ban us from social media.

00:22:43.000 They want to force us to have vaccines, tell us when we can send our kids to school, when we can't. 1.00

00:22:48.000 They want to micromanage all of us because they think we're idiots. 0.97

00:22:52.000 They think we're animals and only the elites, the people, I call them the citizens of international business class, the kind of people who go to TED Those people need to have arbitrary, unaccountable power over the rest of us. 0.99

00:23:08.000 And the pretext is always now public health.

00:23:12.000 If you believe in the immortality of the soul, you're not that afraid of death.

00:23:18.000 If you believe that Jesus Christ has saved you, if you believe in Catholic terms, you're in a state of grace.

00:23:25.000 Death is just a transition to our ultimate destiny.

00:23:29.000 We're all just passing through.

00:23:31.000 We're all pilgrims on a road.

00:23:33.000 If you're not so sure that God exists, if you kind of hope he exists, if you don't believe in hell and you don't think there's anything to be afraid of, if you don't think that we're in a drama right now, a contest where the stakes are infinite, because therefore are immortal souls, then the thing you're going to be most afraid of is not damnation.

00:23:55.000 It's not angering God.

00:23:57.000 You're afraid of death. 0.96

00:23:58.000 You've made yourself a coward through your materialistic worldview. 0.99

00:24:05.000 For you, death is the worst thing imaginable. 0.97

00:24:08.000 So people shouldn't climb mountains, walk tightropes.

00:24:13.000 They shouldn't carry guns.

00:24:16.000 We need to make the world a safe space.

00:24:20.000 Everything has to be surrounded in Nerf.

00:24:23.000 Maybe the speed limit should be 40 miles an hour.

00:24:26.000 Everybody should be vaccinated every 20 or 30 minutes by what the government says is safe.

00:24:32.000 And of course, the citizens shouldn't be armed.

00:24:36.000 I mean, that makes them dangerous.

00:24:38.000 But here's the really dangerous loophole.

00:24:43.000 There are Supreme Court precedents for suspending vital constitutional rights in the face of a really serious public epidemic.

00:24:52.000 Like you can ban political meetings if typhoid is spreading like crazy.

00:24:58.000 They used that during COVID to take control of every aspect of our lives.

00:25:05.000 Even though COVID wasn't a real pandemic, even though only a tiny percentage of the population were really at risk from death.

00:25:13.000 And by the way, the people who are at risk from death were those in nursing homes and they dumped virus patients on them to kill them.

00:25:20.000 I call that the blue state nursing home genocide.

00:25:23.000 And if you Google that phrase, you'll see a long series of columns I wrote at stream.org, blue state nursing home genocide.

00:25:32.000 So by using the public health loophole in Supreme Court case law, they decided they can override all of our rights.

00:25:42.000 And now if you read the rhetoric from gun-grabbing organizations, they constantly talk about the public health menace of gun violence.

00:25:51.000 When has a gun ever spontaneously shot anyone?

00:25:55.000 It's human beings committing sins, committing crimes, violating the rights of other human beings who must be judged by a jury of their peers beyond a reasonable doubt and then punished in a prison or with execution.

00:26:11.000 All that old-fashioned language that I'm using is the language of the Christian and Jewish world, the Judeo-Christian worldview from Middle Ages up through America's founding, really up and through the 1950s.

00:26:27.000 That's when the pseudo-sciences of Darwinism and Freudianism combined with the pseudoeconomics of Marxism to create the contemporary secular postmodern worldview, which it doesn't have any real room for human dignity.

00:26:45.000 We're all just trousered apes.

00:26:47.000 And yet it doesn't actually follow the Darwinian worldview rigorously.

00:26:53.000 If you are a consistent Darwinian, you're not going to have any room for transgenderism. 1.00

00:26:57.000 It's just, at best, a negative mutation.

00:27:00.000 It has no biological value.

00:27:03.000 You're not going to see the point of drag queens. 1.00

00:27:05.000 How does that help the species? 1.00

00:27:07.000 So, what they do is they smuggle from Christianity a few moral taboos like racism.

00:27:16.000 What is there in Darwinism that condemns racism?

00:27:19.000 Darwin himself wrote to the Reverend Charles Kingsley about how someday the white race will exterminate all the lesser races and will be better off for it.

00:27:29.000 His nephew, Francis Galton, created the pseudoscience of eugenics, which in America led to the forced sterilization of 60,000 Americans under people who had flunked biased IQ, culturally biased IQ tests.

00:27:44.000 Laws that provided that were written by people like Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood, and the Nazis actually borrowed their eugenic legislation from America, from Planned Parenthood, and they brought Harry Laughlin,

00:27:59.000 Margaret Sanger's right-hand man, to Germany on a whirlwind tour and gave him an honorary degree from the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute, which was then Nazi-controlled, thanking him for the part that he and Planned Parenthood had played in inspiring the Nazi eugenics legislation that led to the sterilization and euthanasia of thousands of Germans who they regarded as inferior.

00:28:23.000 The left doesn't want to talk about that now because it's embarrassed.

00:28:27.000 But the new pseudoscience is transgenderism. 0.96

00:28:31.000 And it's castrating people, sterilizing people, it's corrupting children.

00:28:38.000 But it is the one area where they maintain some notion that human beings are different from the animals.

00:28:45.000 Because if you had an animal that was chewing off its own genitals, you would take it to the vet and you would get some kind of treatment.

00:28:51.000 So it stopped doing that.

00:28:53.000 Only human beings have the Promethean power to decide, I was born in the wrong body.

00:29:01.000 You know what, Charlie?

00:29:02.000 I was born in the wrong body.

00:29:04.000 I identify as six foot three.

00:29:06.000 And I demand everyone treat me that way.

00:29:08.000 I want to play for the NBA.

00:29:10.000 I define as a wolf.

00:29:11.000 That's actually a thing.

00:29:12.000 I think it's called lycontrophobia.

00:29:15.000 Or is that right?

00:29:16.000 Lycantrophy, a mental disorder in which the patient believes they're a wolf.

00:29:20.000 So, John, to the liberal Christians out there that are pushing this nonsense, the trans stuff, the woke agenda, how should we handle that? 0.99

00:29:33.000 What should our approach be?

00:29:34.000 This is becoming a bigger and bigger problem.

00:29:37.000 It is increasing.

00:29:38.000 It is accelerating.

00:29:40.000 They have captured more institutions, more seminaries.

00:29:43.000 Let's walk us through this, John.

00:29:45.000 They are preaching a new gospel, which is not the gospel of Jesus Christ.

00:29:50.000 St. Paul called people who do that antichrists.

00:29:54.000 We have to be willing to say that.

00:29:57.000 We have to say that these people are the priests of Baal, of the new fertility cult. 0.95

00:30:04.000 What did Elijah do with the priests of Baal? 0.81

00:30:06.000 He cut their throats.

00:30:07.000 Well, he also did that too. 0.98

00:30:09.000 Yeah.

00:30:10.000 After he miraculously, but first he did that.

00:30:12.000 I'm not recommending that for the record.

00:30:14.000 I said this when Driscoll was on peaceful.

00:30:16.000 Stay peaceful, everybody.

00:30:17.000 But it's true.

00:30:18.000 Elijah did cut their throats.

00:30:21.000 He fought them by the means that were socially acceptable at the time.

00:30:25.000 We have to use the means that are socially acceptable now.

00:30:28.000 We have to defeat them.

00:30:29.000 We have to mock them. 1.00

00:30:30.000 First, mock them because they are ridiculous. 1.00

00:30:34.000 Think of the sisters of perpetual indulgence, a bunch of fat, middle-aged loser guys dressing up like female prostitutes. 1.00

00:30:41.000 They look terrible. 1.00

00:30:42.000 They look ridiculous. 1.00

00:30:44.000 They look disgusting. 1.00

00:30:45.000 Don't suppress your natural disgust at these loser, weirdo freaks who want to dress up like prostitutes in front of children. 1.00

00:30:55.000 Don't suppress that natural revulsion. 1.00

00:30:58.000 When your gourd rises and you want to vomit, that is God, that God made you to be disgusted by that kind of loathsome, degenerate behavior. 0.98

00:31:10.000 One of the sisters of perpetual indulgence, who was honored by the Los Angeles Dodgers, was just arrested for sitting around in his car in a parking lot, masturbating. 0.96

00:31:20.000 These are the kind of people that the left is trying to make into heroes.

00:31:25.000 So once you recognize these people are not preaching the gospel of Christ, but the gospel of Antichrist, you need to really, really assimilate that.

00:31:36.000 They're not just a little bit off.

00:31:38.000 They're not well-meaning, but misguided.

00:31:40.000 They are teaching a new religion.

00:31:42.000 They are setting up a golden calf for everyone to worship.

00:31:46.000 Pope Francis just promoted this priest, Antonio Spedaro, a Jesuit, who is a rabid leftist.

00:31:54.000 He wrote a column in 2017 saying the whole pro-life movement and conservative Christian movement was motivated by racism against blacks.

00:32:03.000 He's not trying to stop abortion, not trying to stop pornography. 0.96

00:32:07.000 It's all just thinly veiled racism against blacks, even black pro-lifers, I guess. 0.89

00:32:13.000 That priest, Antonio Spedaro, gave a sermon two weeks ago in which he accused Jesus Christ of committing sins. 0.93

00:32:21.000 He said that Jesus Christ was a racist who was bigoted against his non-Jewish neighbors, and that the story of the Canaanite woman who asked him for a miracle to heal her daughter, when he says, you know, don't give the bread of the children of Israel to the dogs.

00:32:39.000 And he basically tests her faith.

00:32:41.000 This is a woman who's a member of the Canaanite fertility cult that used to sacrifice infants. 0.62

00:32:50.000 So she is a member of a demonic religion.

00:32:52.000 She doesn't know it, but she in fact worships demons.

00:32:55.000 And she comes to Jesus asking for a miracle for her daughter to be healed of being possessed by one of those demons they had been worshiping in the family.

00:33:04.000 And Jesus makes her jump through some hoops and then gives her a miraculous healing.

00:33:09.000 Father Spedaro said this was an example of Jesus committing the sin of racism and then repenting.

00:33:16.000 So these people are willing to judge Jesus.

00:33:19.000 They are higher than Jesus.

00:33:21.000 They're not just higher than the Bible or higher than the church.

00:33:24.000 They can judge Jesus Christ himself.

00:33:28.000 That level of demonic hubris can only be cast out by prayer and fasting.

00:33:34.000 That's the kind of thing that requires exorcisms.

00:33:37.000 This is what we're dealing with.

00:33:39.000 This kind of Luciferian hubris, where these people think they can't just judge Saint Paul.

00:33:46.000 They can't just denounce the Old Testament God as if he were a different God.

00:33:50.000 They can judge Jesus himself and condescend to Jesus because Jesus didn't go to Harvard.

00:33:56.000 Jesus didn't go to Sidwell Friends School.

00:34:00.000 Jesus never had a TED talk.

00:34:02.000 Jesus didn't get counseling and therapy that could have healed his traumatic past so that he could have been more integrated holistic and he would have been willing to dress and drag.

00:34:12.000 So once you get people willing to judge and criticize Jesus Christ himself, they're not Christians.

00:34:21.000 You need to just say you're not a Christian. 0.99

00:34:23.000 You are a member of a new sex cult. 1.00

00:34:28.000 I love it. 0.99

00:34:29.000 John, got to have you back right out of time.

00:34:30.000 Check out thestream.org.

00:34:31.000 It's stream.org.

00:34:32.000 Amazing.

00:34:33.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:34:35.000 Email us as always freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:34:38.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - September 20, 2023

Fake "Christians" Who Fear Death More Than God with John Zmirak

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