00:00:46.000He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:00:53.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:51.000Charlie, we are so glad to have you here tonight.
00:01:54.000Thank you for taking the time and putting us on your schedule.
00:01:58.000And we're just going to spend some time doing some questions and answers with Charlie at this point.
00:02:03.000And so I'll open it up with this one, Charlie.
00:02:06.000I think we would like to just hear a little bit about your background, how you came to know the Lord, and a little bit about how you founded Turning Point USA, if you don't mind.
00:02:16.000Well, first of all, this is a great church.
00:04:20.000Started Turning Point USA when I was 18 years old, which is now the largest organization in the country reaching out to young people for conservative values.
00:04:31.000And I know many of you give $5, $10, give what you can to Turning Point USA.
00:05:14.000And honestly, I'm the most blessed person, I believe, on the planet.
00:05:18.000I have a great wife, amazing daughter.
00:05:20.000And I feel that every single day I get to contribute to trying to save the greatest country ever to exist in the history of the world, trying to bring people to ultimate truth.
00:05:30.000And we do it in a variety of different ways.
00:05:32.000We've launched TPUSA Faith a couple years ago.
00:08:12.000No, anyway, but Jesus said, all the laws of the prophets hang upon these two commandments.
00:08:18.000Love the Lord your God with all your soul, strength, heart, soul, strength, and mind, which is Deuteronomy 6:5, and then love your neighbor as yourself, which is Leviticus 19.
00:09:26.000Now is the time to be bold and to proclaim the truth, not to hide and retreat and hope it gets better.
00:09:33.000And so that's really one of the reasons I got into the church fight, if you will, you know, with a heavy political tilt, obviously, as a Christian on the campus space.
00:09:43.000During COVID, when I saw the capitulation of most churches, not all, there's plenty of churches that did the right thing, but that did vaccine mandates and mask mandates and locked down.
00:09:56.000I was horrified at how this beacon of liberty, this beacon of light, was no different than a secular institution.
00:10:03.000When the government, and by the way, governor, I believe it was Sisilak, right, at the time?
00:10:23.000And I don't know if it was the case in this state, but other states, liquor stores and marijuana stores and strip clubs were deemed essential, but the church is not.
00:11:54.000Or it's the values that my parents gave me.
00:11:57.000At some point, there's something that is influencing you.
00:12:00.000Unfortunately, we've sent our kids to these university campuses, and they're influenced by complete poison.
00:12:06.000If we as the church are not doing a good job of training and educating a foundation of our flock to have a biblical worldview, then we're not doing our job.
00:12:19.000So you kick wokeism out when your congregation uses the Bible, the word of God, to analyze all the news events.
00:12:27.000What does the Bible say about marriage?
00:12:31.000What does the Bible say about immigration?
00:12:33.000What does the Bible say about everything?
00:12:35.000And then it doesn't become a question because the Bible then becomes the lens of which all your other decisions are made.
00:12:41.000And so one of the ways that we kick woke is out is that we reinstill that biblical worldview.
00:12:48.000And I've found far too often that churches are now embracing secular moral relativism, where some churches, not all, they have the gay pride flag outside.
00:13:00.000Some churches, not all, are marching in BLM parades.
00:13:04.000In fact, some of the most popular pastors in America, one being Andy Stanley, who is somebody from Georgia, very popular, buys a lot of time on Christian broadcasting.
00:13:13.000He had two homosexuals come up to his church and present and have a pro-transgender type thing saying that we must affirm trans kids' delusion.
00:15:11.000There's only honestly burning it to the ground, which is the best thing that could happen to Harvard at this point.
00:15:15.000Now, that might sound radical, but when 31 student organizations at Harvard University, the day after the most deadly attack on Jews since the Holocaust, 31 student organizations come out with sympathy for Hamas, I say you are no morally better than Nazi Germany, and that institution should cease to exist.
00:15:35.000I will not put up with that in this country.
00:16:01.000And so I go there on a rescue mission.
00:16:05.000My job at Turning Point USA is a non-stop 24-7, 365 rescue mission to save your kids from ideas that will destroy the country and destroy themselves.
00:16:15.000I'm trying to rescue as many kids as possible.
00:18:22.000What advice would you have, Charlie, for Christian employees who are working in a job where their employers have bought into the diversity, equity, and inclusion agenda?
00:18:33.000I get asked that a lot from people in our congregation that are going, Pastor, what should I do?
00:19:14.000I would not put myself through a modern day Maoist struggle session to have to hear that I'm a bad person because I'm white every single day.
00:19:26.000Just so just the data, just so we're clear, if you are not happy at work, you will die earlier.
00:20:00.000Sometimes you have to act out in faith.
00:20:02.000You have to see if God has a plan in store.
00:20:05.000There is, just to consider, an amazing patriot economy that is growing.
00:20:11.000Public Square is listing a lot of these companies.
00:20:13.000I think you would be surprised at how many employers are out there that are trying to find Christian patriots to come work for them that don't believe in the DEI, CRT, trans stuff.
00:20:53.000He says, if you're happy at work, here's the stats.
00:20:56.000If you're not happy at work, here's the stats.
00:20:58.000Less likely to be divorced, less likely alcoholism, less likely to get into drug abuse.
00:21:01.000Obviously, it's not a guaranteed thing, but it's rational, right?
00:21:04.000If you're excited and happy and purpose-filled at work, obviously the rest of your life will probably be better.
00:21:09.000Less likely to get in fights at home, all that sort of stuff.
00:21:12.000So I would urge you to prayerfully consider if God has a plan for you to go find a different job or a different career that could share your values.
00:21:23.000One of the greatest, most torturous forms of tyranny in modern America is when someone has to leave their home and pretend to be something they aren't.
00:21:37.000We've been talking, you talked a little bit about the students on the college campuses that came out in support of Hamas right after October 7 attacks.
00:21:47.000Can you speak to us a little bit about the situation in Israel and what can we in America and also the churches, what can we learn from what happened there in Israel?
00:21:57.000Yeah, I mean, just the brewing Jew hatred in this country is really bothering me.
00:22:02.000And by the way, I'm no apologist for the Israeli government.
00:22:06.000When they bombed a church, I tweeted about it and the IDF responded and we had a good dialogue and I thought that was just fine.
00:22:13.000But just the moral issue that I have with this is some people in the left-wing media are coming out as if that Hamas is somehow the victim here.
00:22:26.000And I just, and I, again, I'm an America-first guy.
00:22:37.000I had an amazing time with my wife there.
00:22:38.000I saw where Jesus walked on water, where Jesus rose from the dead.
00:22:42.000I have a soft spot for Israel, all cards being out there.
00:22:45.000At the same time, my obligation is to America first.
00:22:48.000But there is no moral equivalent when you have people come in and target civilian corridors on the holiest Jewish day, and then they get to cry victim.
00:24:22.000And I say this as someone who has a soft spot and a heart for Israel.
00:24:25.000When two members of the Israeli government wrote a piece in the Wall Street Journal saying that it's a moral imperative for we as Americans to take the people of Gaza.
00:24:33.000I find that to be insulting, to be perfectly honest with you.
00:25:29.000I don't think we talk about this enough.
00:25:32.000Because if you hear immigration spoke about in a church, there are many verses that say, love the stranger, love the foreigner, and we should love all people.
00:25:40.000But very rarely in church do you hear this verse.
00:25:43.000Deuteronomy 28, 43, one of the last things that Moses ever said.
00:25:48.000Foreigners who live in your land will gain more and more power while you gradually lose yours.
00:25:54.000They will have money to lend you, but you will have none to lend them.
00:25:58.000In the end, the foreigners will become your rulers.
00:26:02.000How often do you hear that said in a church?
00:26:07.000The Muslim Brotherhood is on pace to become our rulers in this country.
00:26:11.000Turns out Moses was right in Deuteronomy.
00:26:14.000So I just want to say there's a biblical basis for being skeptical of letting people into your country because some woke Christians will only use the verses that say love the foreigner, love the refugee.
00:26:25.000By the way, the refugee status is overused, just so we're clear, okay?
00:26:29.000So I think it is suicidal as a country to let in hundreds of thousands of people like Elon Omar who have bitter contempt for America under the guise of tolerance.
00:27:52.000Final point that I think on the Israel thing: a lot of Jewish donors are having regret, and God bless them for the regret they're having.
00:28:00.000I received a lot of backlash in the media when I said this because they said it was anti-Semitic, which it isn't anti-Semitic.
00:28:06.000It's so shallow and stupid when they use these sort of accusations.
00:28:09.000When I said that Jewish donors have been the biggest funders of these universities over the last couple of decades that have been fomenting anti-white, anti-Jew, and anti-Western values, and I said it's promising to see Jewish donors finally pull their money from these universities and anti-American educational institutions.
00:28:33.000We see that with Bill Ackman, we see that with Kopperman, we see that with Mark Rowan, we see that with some major Jewish donors that are pulling hundreds of millions of dollars in these universities.
00:28:46.000So look, there's a lot of different takeaways.
00:28:48.000To summarize that all together, I'm cheering for Israel.
00:28:51.000I hope that they continue to fight in the most humane way possible, which it looks like they are, to try to save as many civilians as possible, to get this over with.
00:28:59.000But they need to kill as many Hamas terrorists as possible.
00:29:03.000That is the modern-day moral equivalent of Nazism.
00:29:29.000Hello, I want to make sure, I don't want to spend too much time on this, to be honest, because I'm just going to, you guys are going to get so sad.
00:29:40.000What is the new Speaker of the House doing, honestly?
00:29:43.000I mean, I don't mean to pick on him, nice guy, Christian.
00:31:35.000By the time Joe Biden is done, and this really goes to show one of the reasons why we need to keep fighting and not give up.
00:31:42.000Somebody asked me, they said, Charlie, why are we so divided?
00:31:44.000I said, I'll tell you why we're divided.
00:31:47.000We look at 10 million illegals that come into the country and we say, what an unspeakable tragedy, an unacceptable thing that has happened.
00:31:57.000Biden looks and he says, I'm so proud.
00:36:05.000They don't agree on any sort of the core pillar issues.
00:36:10.000And so I'm very hopeful that there is going to be a massive right-wing revolution in the Hispanic community that will totally change American politics.
00:36:36.000Yeah, and I think you're right on that.
00:36:41.000What would you say, shifting gears here a little bit, what would you say to the Christian who is here tonight struggling with their conscience about voting for a candidate who doesn't align 100% with their biblical values?
00:36:55.000What would you say to that person who's not going to say that?
00:36:56.000Yeah, first of all, I'm glad you're here.
00:37:14.000Number one, a vote is not an endorsement of every single thing a person has said or done.
00:37:18.000It's about what they do and the policies that you align with.
00:37:21.000But the question is, is there ever an example of somebody in the scriptures that is considered to be faithful or holy that had really interesting hair and lived a colorful life?
00:37:45.000God came to him while he was in a prostitute's bed.
00:37:49.000Samson took the jaw of a donkey and killed thousands of Philistines.
00:37:53.000He was willing to listen to the call of God to go fight.
00:37:56.000And you might say, oh, Charlie, but what's the takeaway?
00:38:00.000Samson is listed in the hall of faith in the book of Hebrews because he was faithful to God's calling and obedience.
00:38:07.000So now, if you want to take Samson out of the Bible, how about King Cyrus?
00:38:12.000King Cyrus, who was called a righteous man, who was a Persian king who sent the Jews back to Israel after the destruction of the first temple.
00:38:20.000That's where you get Zarebabel, the book of Nehemiah, and the reconstruction of the second temple.
00:38:25.000King Cyrus has a lot of similarities to Trump.
00:38:27.000Someone that might not share every single view that we have, but will fight for righteousness and fight for goodness.
00:38:34.000And I will say, look, Trump is a very interesting person.
00:39:06.000If you were facing 700 years in federal prison and having every cent you've ever earned about taken away from you, but from some crook in New York, would you still be fighting?
00:40:15.000You got raising wages for people of all different colors and backgrounds.
00:40:19.000So you had a lot of successes there across the board.
00:40:21.000So you vote for the values he's fighting for.
00:40:24.000I personally, I will say it, I'm biased, and I could tell you, having spent extensive private time with him, having traveled with him, I could tell you, despite all the media nonsense, he cares deeply about this country.
00:40:35.000And I cannot say that about most politicians I spend time with.
00:40:49.000Well, we're starting to wind it down here, and I want to throw this out there now so you can be thinking about it in advance.
00:40:55.000But just if any of you guys have a question tonight for Charlie, just be thinking of that because in a second we're going to open it up here.
00:41:02.000But before we get to that, this is more of a personal question, Charlie.
00:41:06.000I wanted to ask you, how have you dealt with your own personal fear and anxiety?
00:41:10.000Because you are under a lot of attack and stress, and there's a lot of attention on you.
00:41:17.000So how do you find the courage and the inspiration each day to deal with that?
00:43:08.000That means that you being here is not a mistake, that there's intentionality to your existence, and everything around you has a harmony, a purpose, and a plan, and an end point.
00:43:39.000And Genesis 126, 127, that we're created in his image, that we are made in the image of the divine.
00:43:46.000John 1, which is the creation story, said differently, in the beginning was the logos, the word, and the word became flesh to dwell among us.
00:43:55.000I could do a whole nerdy speech into what the logos is, but that basically means that the divine harmony of the cosmos came down on a rescue mission, to use that term I used previously, to save us from our sinful nature.
00:44:08.000And I go throughout the scriptures, and it's very comforting to know that there is a God with a plan and a purpose for our life in the end that Christ wins.
00:44:18.000And then every day, I don't think we as Christians emphasize enough personal development with Christ.
00:44:27.000I think that if that one verse was one that every Christian would focus on, we would have a much healthier body of Christ, which is do not conform to the ways of this world, but instead be transformed by the renewing of your mind.
00:44:44.000We are called not to conform to the habits of debauchery, of drunkenness, of pornography consumption, right?
00:44:51.000We're called to be different, and by that, your mind will literally be transformed.
00:44:56.000And I know this sounds weird, but my mind has been transformed.
00:45:00.000Metamufe is the word in Greek, where I don't fear the left.
00:45:04.000I don't fear what they do because I've done the habits for so many years not to conform to their garbage that I could tell your mind actually does transform.
00:45:13.000I know some of you might think what I'm saying is wacky.
00:45:16.000Some of you, I could tell, know exactly what I'm saying, is that Christ transforms you.
00:45:21.000But it starts with not conforming to the ways of this world.
00:45:24.000And so, and then it is the most popular psalm for a reason.
00:45:30.000Psalm 23 is so unbelievably comforting, I have to say.
00:45:35.000The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want, is really incredible.
00:45:39.000And so, look, it's not up for us to win the battle.
00:45:43.000And we will talk about this in question and answer.
00:45:46.000But your action every single day needs to be out of obedience.
00:45:51.000I do what I do because I'm told to do it by God.
00:45:56.000And if there's any other, and even more so, I do what I do for the glory of God out of worship for his greatness and his perfect love.
00:46:10.000If you're doing what you do for different reasons, for example, Charlie, I want Trump to win in 2024 because that means it'll be a better life for me.
00:46:58.000We're going to move into a time of question and answer now.
00:47:01.000So I'm going to have the guys come down, and they're going to be standing right here because we want to be able to get those who ask the questions on camera as well.
00:47:09.000And so if you've got a question for Charlie, go ahead and stand up and line up in this aisle right here.
00:47:16.000And there's a microphone waiting for you right there.
00:47:19.000And as Charlie, I've heard him say many times, dissenters go to the front.
00:47:24.000So if you have a dissenting opinion and you want to share, or you want to ask a question coming from the opposite viewpoint, please join in and ask that question.
00:47:34.000I just want to quickly remind you that we are taking questions, okay?
00:47:39.000We don't want to hear your life story, although we know it's amazing, and we know that God has done amazing things in your life.
00:47:47.000Please just give us your name and give us a question if you don't mind.
00:47:52.000So let's go ahead and before we begin, just really quick.
00:48:10.000Every single one of you, they'll have a phone.
00:48:12.000I would ask you while we're doing question and answer, if you take out your phone and follow the QR prompting and subscribe to our podcast, we do three podcasts a day.
00:48:22.000You might be saying, Charlie, how can I get the news?
00:48:27.000I think you get some pretty awesome content there: interviews, frontline commentary.
00:48:32.000When you get to the Apple podcast page, you press subscribe by hitting the plus sign in the upper right-hand corner.
00:48:38.000If you don't know what I'm saying, there is an eight-year-old nearby that can guide you through all of that.
00:48:45.000But seriously, if you don't know what we're talking about afterwards, you can go to the TPSA faith booth and just ask, How do I subscribe to that?
00:48:52.000But if you get what I'm saying, please just follow that QR code, which you and it really blesses us.
00:51:14.000Anybody that's in a 50-50 situation of custody with their children will be affected by this because it's now case law.
00:51:22.000My question, my call to action is: what would you say to the parents that are in a position like me, and I want to be on your talk show to be the voice because we're filing to go to SCOTUS?
00:52:43.000Heavenly Father, we just want to lift up our sister Brooke to you right now in Jesus' name.
00:52:48.000And Lord, sometimes when we get to the very end of ourselves, all we can do is look up, and that's what you're waiting for, Lord.
00:52:57.000I just pray for Brooke, Lord, that you would surround her, that you would strengthen her, that you would fill her with your Holy Spirit, that you would send the right people to come alongside of her.
00:53:05.000And I pray that you would just give her wisdom, Lord.
00:53:11.000Lord, there are spiritual forces in dark places that are pulling strings.
00:53:14.000And we pray against them in the name of Jesus.
00:53:17.000And we pray that you would tear down strongholds that need to be torn down.
00:53:20.000And that, Lord, what needs to happen would happen in the name of Jesus.
00:53:25.000We pray that you would encourage Brooke to know that she's not alone, that there are many, Lord, that are praying for her and supporting her.
00:53:31.000And Lord, we just pray for her case in Jesus' name right now.
00:53:52.000Most of you guys heard me yelling outside.
00:53:54.000I'm one of the four Latinos on staff here.
00:54:03.000But the question is, since we have statistics showing that the vast majority of the students in Washoe County, they're the majority of students.
00:54:15.000The majority of students in the entire state of Nevada, as far as public schools and private schools, is Latino by an overwhelming amount.
00:54:24.000TPUSA's moniker is like, you guys going to the university, but what about the high schools and the grammar schools specifically to the Latino community?
00:54:33.000What are you guys having or call to action to get that going?
00:54:39.000And so we'd love to, I don't know how successful we've been here.
00:54:43.000I would imagine we have a chapter or two up here.
00:54:46.000But yeah, we actually have more high school chapters than college chapters nationwide now.
00:54:51.000And I will say that the high schools, we're learning a lot.
00:54:56.000They are harder to get chapters at than colleges, as you can imagine.
00:55:00.000Just the administrators sometimes or whatever, the bureaucrats are there.
00:55:04.000But if there's anybody here that has kids, if there is a high schooler here that wants to start a turning point USA chapter, go to our table out in the hall.
00:55:12.000We would immediately love to connect you and get you involved.
00:55:15.000We have a second to none student outreach and development program.
00:55:19.000In fact, I bet you might have some students here at the church that would love to do that.
00:55:23.000And so open invite, would love to have it.
00:55:26.000And also, for those of you that might want to fly down to Phoenix to be around over 10,000 students, we have an event called AmericaFest.
00:56:42.000We also need help at the Washa Republican Party, and we need more precinct captains, and we need more people to volunteer to help us at the caucus events.
00:57:33.000I just wanted to ask for some advice you would give to a 14-year-old who would like to make a change for all these people who can make a change in their lives so they can change the world.
01:01:13.000Barack Obama is an evil person, and he is still very much involved.
01:01:19.000Valerie Jarrett, but it goes even bigger than that.
01:01:21.000It is a cabal of Soros, of Mackenzie Bezos, of Reid Hoffman, of Mark Benihoff, of Sergey Brin, of Larry Page, of Jeff Bezos, of Mark Zuckerberg, Klaus Schwab from the World Economic Forum.
01:01:38.000Joe Biden is just a temporary placeholder.
01:01:44.000I mean, we should laugh, but it's the only thing we could do.
01:01:47.000It's really sad when you think about it that this beautiful, amazing country, this incredible gift from God, is being run by this, you know, this traitor who can't even put two sentences together.
01:01:59.000One of the promising things is how many of you are not surprised by what I'm saying, and you realize that there's a deeper game going on here.
01:02:07.000And I just want to make sure that it is very clear: it is easy to pick on Joe Biden, but those people that I mentioned are also running big parts of the Republican Party as well.
01:02:30.000I just want to say thank you so much for coming out here to speak with us.
01:02:34.000And my question is: if this was the very last time that you could speak to any of the youth in America, including me, then what would you tell us?
01:03:01.000Look, I would say similar to what Moses said, which is there's this incredible, I think it's Deuteronomy 27, where, no, it's like Deuteronomy 20, yeah.
01:05:27.000But I do not want you to get your hopes up as if they're not going to do another crooked steal.
01:05:33.000The RNC, by the way, Ronna McRomney, should resign as chair of the RNC.
01:05:40.000It is a disgrace that she is the chair.
01:05:42.000They have not done nearly enough to secure our elections in my home state of Arizona, Georgia, or Wisconsin.
01:05:48.000So here's my attitude: I'm going to do everything I possibly can to get our people out, to get us to vote.
01:05:55.000I'm going to try to secure the elections, but I will not lie to you and tell you that this system is flawless and that we fixed everything.
01:06:02.000We fixed some minor stuff in Wisconsin or Georgia.
01:06:06.000But would you rather have me be up here and tell you that everything is wonderful and fixed?
01:06:10.000No, that would be an abuse of the trust that you've put in me.
01:06:15.000So there's nothing preventing it currently.
01:06:18.000Hopefully, we can get a new RNC chair.
01:06:21.000A new RNC chair should come in and start filing strategic lawsuits and come up with a battle plan to make sure that votes are counted quickly and ethically and transparently.
01:08:09.000If you are sullen and you have a heaviness to you, yeah, you know, the scriptures are like, no one's, you're a walking billboard for the gospel, right?
01:08:26.000And here, and every opportunity that you can, say, you know, the Bible says something about that, because there are a lot of questions that people ask.
01:08:33.000They ask, the Bible answers every single question.
01:08:48.000But the best thing you can do is to be a light of hope and joy and quite honestly, be different than this cynical, broken, and bitter culture that we're living in.
01:09:01.000And I got to be honest, I feel so bad for young people.
01:09:04.000This is like the saddest country ever right now.