The Charlie Kirk Show - October 05, 2026


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00:01:17.000 Welcome, everybody.
00:01:18.000 It's October 5th, 2026.
00:01:21.000 We're here at the Y Refi Studios in Phoenix, Arizona.
00:01:25.000 I'm a little out of it because I have been seating the chair to Blake.
00:01:29.000 You did a great job.
00:01:30.000 Thank you.
00:01:30.000 Lots of great reports.
00:01:32.000 Thank you for holding it down.
00:01:33.000 I was off the grid for four days.
00:01:36.000 I did a really amazing camping trip with my.
00:01:39.000 Two eldest children, and it was great.
00:01:41.000 I'm telling you, people, touch grass, go do it.
00:01:44.000 Get off your phone, it will change your life for the better.
00:01:47.000 I certainly feel that way.
00:01:48.000 So, I'm catching up on the news as well.
00:01:51.000 And so, we're just going to get into it.
00:01:53.000 And the big news out of the weekend, from all accounts, is what's going on in Brazil.
00:01:58.000 Heck yeah.
00:01:59.000 So, there is just.
00:02:00.000 You know, I want to actually say this because it feels a little crazy.
00:02:04.000 One of the first things we did when I joined the show was the last election in Brazil, which was not a good one.
00:02:10.000 It was, of course, very close.
00:02:12.000 The incumbent.
00:02:13.000 Conservative president, Hire Bolsonaro.
00:02:15.000 I remember Charlie would always say Bolsonaro because he would assume it was a Spanish name, but actually it is just Bolsonaro.
00:02:22.000 And he lost to Lula, the left wing guy.
00:02:24.000 It was very close.
00:02:25.000 It was one of those suspicious races where all the early results were in his favor.
00:02:30.000 And then in the northeast part of the country, which is the most left wing, the poorest, the shadiest in a lot of ways, late results gave Lula this very narrow victory.
00:02:40.000 And then they had stuff where they had kind of their version of.
00:02:44.000 January 6th, where some supporters of Bolsonaro occupied the Capitol building.
00:02:49.000 Bolsonaro was in Orlando for a bit.
00:02:51.000 It's been pretty dramatic.
00:02:53.000 Brazil is like America, but on steroids in a lot of ways.
00:02:56.000 They have even more aggressive judges, even more aggressive lawfare.
00:03:00.000 And now they have, it looks like, an even more dramatic comeback because Bolsonaro's son, Flavio Bolsonaro, he ran for president against Lula.
00:03:10.000 It was their first round and he won 47 45.
00:03:15.000 It's headed to a runoff, so it's not a secure thing yet, but it's looking, odds are very strong that we'll get a conservative win there.
00:03:21.000 Yeah.
00:03:21.000 So it's going to a runoff.
00:03:22.000 That's going to happen October 25th.
00:03:24.000 So it's not a huge long.
00:03:26.000 I actually kind of appreciate that, that the elections happen pretty close together.
00:03:30.000 But what's interesting about this story is, as you said, the parallels to some of the Trump saga that we've all lived through.
00:03:37.000 I mean, he survived an assassination attempt, they banned him from running for office.
00:03:41.000 He's now serving a 27 year sentence.
00:03:43.000 His son is running to get his father out of prison.
00:03:46.000 That is actually part of his, he's going to seek amnesty.
00:03:49.000 For his father.
00:03:50.000 And so, what's also interesting is that he was losing in the polls.
00:03:54.000 The polls had Lula up, and yet here they have this massive surge.
00:03:59.000 People are taken to the streets.
00:04:00.000 And then what's crazy, so obviously Flavio is the eldest son of Jair.
00:04:06.000 Jair.
00:04:08.000 I've met him in person.
00:04:09.000 I should know this.
00:04:12.000 But then get this Michelle Bolsonaro, the wife and Flavio's stepmother, she was elected senator for the federal district, her first elected office, as the top vote getter there.
00:04:22.000 Carlos Bolsonaro, the second son, was elected senator for Santa Catarina.
00:04:28.000 Jair Renan Bolsonaro, the youngest son, who's only 28, was elected to federal deputy for Santa Catarina.
00:04:34.000 Renato Bolsonaro, Jair's brother, also won a seat in Congress.
00:04:39.000 And according to Brazilian reporting on the family's results, Eduardo Bolsonaro, third son, did not run.
00:04:44.000 He has been living in the United States.
00:04:46.000 So you got the whole family right there accounted for.
00:04:49.000 But yeah, I actually met Jair before he was imprisoned.
00:04:53.000 Very nice man, very, very gregarious, tons of charisma.
00:04:57.000 And so this is just a fascinating story.
00:05:00.000 And then on the backdrop of this, what a lot of people are pointing out is that since.
00:05:06.000 USAID has been demolished and deconstructed.
00:05:09.000 You've got a crazy trend of right wing candidates throughout South America winning elections.
00:05:17.000 And this is the crazy part, I think, for all of us to look at this, right?
00:05:22.000 Since USAID was dismantled, Latin America's right wing keeps winning and its left keeps losing.
00:05:29.000 So, by an average, if you look at all this together, plus 23 points.
00:05:33.000 Yeah.
00:05:34.000 I don't.
00:05:36.000 It's beyond a conspiracy theory.
00:05:38.000 It might be causation without correlation, or correlation without causation, rather, but it is fascinating.
00:05:43.000 It's really interesting to me.
00:05:44.000 I doubt there's a direct causal thing.
00:05:47.000 I think one thing that actually matters a lot, for example, is just in El Salvador, they had Bukele.
00:05:54.000 He did a bunch of right wing policies, but he's massively cracked.
00:05:58.000 But he's 90% popular.
00:05:59.000 Something like that.
00:05:59.000 He massively cracks down on crime, on gangs, sends the murder rate down to practically zero, massively fixes up the country.
00:06:07.000 He Kind of showed, as people say, you can just do things, that you can actually defeat these gangs if you are hard headed enough.
00:06:16.000 And I think that was massively popular.
00:06:18.000 All of these Latin American countries have similar problems with a lot of cartels, powerful gangs, sometimes vestigial Marxist revolutionary groups.
00:06:27.000 And he says, if you are tough with them, you can defeat these guys.
00:06:30.000 And I think that plus a few other vibe shifts, you know, they had a lot of these countries went Venezuela.
00:06:36.000 Yeah, a lot of these countries went, yeah, they saw the Venezuelan failure.
00:06:39.000 A lot of these countries went hard on actually immigration.
00:06:42.000 They took, for example, Chile took in a lot of Haitian immigrants proportionally, like Biden wave level amounts of Haitian immigrants didn't go great.
00:06:50.000 So I think all of them sort of saw the failure of left wing government all at the same time.
00:06:54.000 Chile had a plus 16 point victory for the right wing in December of 2025.
00:06:59.000 So we're getting all these wins.
00:07:00.000 But I will say also, Mike Benz did point this out that when Jair Bolsonaro won in 2018, there was a big surge in USAID funding that went to.
00:07:12.000 Brazil, and it wasn't for political stuff, but it was for support of civil society and a lot of stuff that they'll present as neutral.
00:07:20.000 Yes, and it is eight, it was like 80 million dollars.
00:07:23.000 Think about how much money that would be in U.S. politics just going to various nonprofits here in a much poorer country like Brazil.
00:07:31.000 That can go a long way, yeah.
00:07:32.000 And you see the map right there of all the right wing wins by 21 points, Costa Rica, the right wing wins by 43.6 points, Colombia, one point, is a squeaker, Ecuador, 11 point win.
00:07:45.000 Peru, 0.3, another squeaker, but it won.
00:07:47.000 Bolivia, 23.6%, right wing win.
00:07:51.000 Chile, 6%.
00:07:52.000 I mean, these are not even close calls in most of these countries.
00:07:55.000 And now Brazil, as you said, that is almost like.
00:07:58.000 So, what we'll often talk about with the United States is this the demographic shifts that we've seen in the last 40 years.
00:08:04.000 It's the Brazilification of America, right?
00:08:06.000 This you become much more sectarian, much more tribalized.
00:08:11.000 We don't like it.
00:08:12.000 You don't, it's not a good thing, but Brazil already has that on steroids compared to the United States.
00:08:16.000 So, a lot of what you see happening in Brazil does feel like a mirror image of the United States.
00:08:24.000 And this is, I think, a promising trend.
00:08:26.000 What's also frustrating, though, Blake, is that you've got the The whole of South America, one of the most resource rich environments.
00:08:32.000 These countries are all going to be working in cooperation closely with Marco Rubio at state.
00:08:38.000 These are going to be allies now.
00:08:41.000 And yet we're having, I would say, a pendulum swing back in the United States where all of a sudden DSA is popular with people, which is terrifying, which needs to be stopped.
00:08:52.000 And we're going to talk about that as we're going to have Jay Felion here in just a little bit.
00:08:57.000 Then we're going to turn our attention to Europe.
00:08:59.000 So while the West is in crisis, In some of these stories out of England, out of France, they're terrifying.
00:09:06.000 You got migrant boats arriving at the coast of England instead of defending their shores.
00:09:11.000 They're kicking out local residents.
00:09:13.000 We got riots in France.
00:09:14.000 This uprising is happening throughout the West and it's driven by leftists.
00:09:18.000 And meanwhile, in South America, they're finally coming back to grips with the rest of the world.
00:09:22.000 A very funny thing in Brazil, you can vote if you're abroad.
00:09:25.000 And so there's a lot of American Brazilians who are voting in that election.
00:09:30.000 And they actually have the results by different cities.
00:09:32.000 So, for example, there's a lot of Brazilians in Florida.
00:09:34.000 They're voting hard for Bolsonaro.
00:09:36.000 So, Orlando, that has a lot of votes for Bolsonaro.
00:09:39.000 Miami, I believe, was pro Bolsonaro.
00:09:41.000 And then the left wing ones, Brazilians who moved to D.C., oh, they're supporting Lula.
00:09:45.000 Brazilians in the Bay Area, they're supporting Lula.
00:09:48.000 That's fast.
00:09:48.000 Matches some funny patterns there.
00:09:50.000 I'd say one of the biggest white pills of this is if all of those countries can swing to the right, we do have a lot of Hispanics in the U.S.
00:09:57.000 I think that will hopefully set a trend where they could think, oh, wait, conservative government in Latin America is going well, is making our home countries better.
00:10:06.000 Hopefully that.
00:10:07.000 Mentality would spill over into the U.S.?
00:10:10.000 Well, I'm a big believer.
00:10:11.000 Listen, I'm the $20 burrito guy.
00:10:14.000 I didn't mean to be.
00:10:16.000 I understand things are too expensive, but on the home front, there are so many wins that we need to just keep reiterating.
00:10:23.000 The economy is far better than people give it credit for.
00:10:25.000 I know a lot of us don't feel it.
00:10:27.000 I know that things are too expensive, but there are so many wins.
00:10:30.000 We cannot give up the wins that we have enjoyed, that we're currently reaping the benefits of.
00:10:35.000 We have net negative migration out of this country.
00:10:38.000 We got to stay focused, folks.
00:10:39.000 So, this Brazil election, let's throw up 145, this image.
00:10:43.000 So, you've got Flavio at 47% of the vote and Lula at 45.
00:10:49.000 Neither got to 50%.
00:10:51.000 So, it will go to the runoff.
00:10:53.000 However, there's a lot of right wing candidates that, you know, assuming those right wing candidates would probably vote for Flavio, he's actually got an amazing chance to take back power in Brazil.
00:11:05.000 And another dynamic that a lot of people are talking about is what President Trump has pointed out.
00:11:09.000 You can see it right here, 141, Trump's truth.
00:11:12.000 125 million people voted today in the first round of Brazil's presidential election.
00:11:16.000 The results came out shortly after the vote closed on the same day in Detroit, Philadelphia, California, and numerous other U.S. cities and states.
00:11:23.000 The results, with much smaller numbers, will often take weeks to rig.
00:11:27.000 I mean, calculate.
00:11:28.000 Voting in America is corrupt, President DJT.
00:11:31.000 So this is now where we kind of turn our sights.
00:11:35.000 Because you mentioned when Lula was elected, there was a lot of shenanigans.
00:11:39.000 It seemed like the blue, there were votes that were ginned up in those deep.
00:11:44.000 Liberal progressive enclaves in Brazil.
00:11:47.000 So, are we going to see that again?
00:11:49.000 That becomes a question, right?
00:11:50.000 But it is worth pointing out you can count your ballots on election day.
00:11:56.000 Other countries that are far inferior to the United States do it.
00:12:00.000 And yet we insist on a voting system that leaves us hanging in the wind and open to shenanigans.
00:12:06.000 So if you think that I'm a conspiracy theorist for even bringing this up, maybe you should look in the mirror and just figure out how to count your votes on election day, like Florida does, for example, like Brazil does, like France does.
00:12:19.000 So the fact that we cannot have a vote count on the same day remains an utter national disgrace.
00:12:24.000 Well, one of the favorite left wing words of the past decade or so is gaslighting.
00:12:28.000 Where they say, you know, they just lie to you to your face about what you can see.
00:12:31.000 And the stuff about our elections is a top example of that.
00:12:34.000 That, as we see, literally even much poorer, much less developed countries, Brazil has the Amazon in it.
00:12:43.000 If anyone had an excuse where they could say, oh, it's going to take a while to get some of these votes in from this random village that's deep in the Amazon or whatever, they would have that excuse.
00:12:53.000 But in fact, of course, they can count 99.9% of their ballots in a single evening.
00:12:58.000 And then, Here in the US, we have to have New York take weeks to count their ballots this cycle.
00:13:04.000 California will take possibly more than a month to count its ballots in this cycle.
00:13:08.000 And every cycle, they seem to get worse.
00:13:11.000 And they're going to tell us there's perfectly justifiable reasons.
00:13:14.000 We'll get these articles from the New York Times that say, actually, there's no evidence there's anything untoward about this.
00:13:19.000 And it's just, no one believes it.
00:13:22.000 Because, first of all, you shouldn't allow it even if nothing untoward is happening because it just looks wrong.
00:13:29.000 Part of running a successful Democratic system, a system where we vote is not merely that it should be fair, but it should look fair.
00:13:36.000 That's why we have rules about what judges can do, that judges can't do stuff that makes them appear biased.
00:13:41.000 It undermines the system.
00:13:43.000 Having an electoral system where you take weeks to count the ballots, where there's a new dump of votes that arrived way later than all the others, and it might be way different from earlier votes, is going to make people say, this system sounds phony, this system sounds BS, I don't trust it, I'm going to embrace more radical ideology in response.
00:14:01.000 Can't allow it.
00:14:02.000 Of course, that is ultimately what happens.
00:14:05.000 The cynicism sets in with the electorate and they do get more radicalized.
00:14:10.000 And we're seeing that with young people, by the way, at Turning Point, all over the country, right?
00:14:13.000 When they feel like the system is rigged against them, that's when you get radical politics.
00:14:17.000 But I want to set this up in a bigger way here.
00:14:21.000 And we talk about how Brazil, in some ways, is the ghost of Christmas future.
00:14:27.000 This is what we're looking at demographically.
00:14:30.000 And that is what this is all about.
00:14:32.000 Why we can't have secure elections in the United States is because they want to import new voters.
00:14:36.000 That's the whole game.
00:14:38.000 This is actually what they're playing at.
00:14:40.000 And I can prove it to you.
00:14:41.000 This is CNN.
00:14:43.000 They tell you guess what?
00:14:45.000 Replacement ideology is a conspiracy theory.
00:14:48.000 Oh, but also, here's how we're going to turn Georgia blue permanently.
00:14:52.000 Stop four.
00:14:53.000 Georgia's still a red state, a purple state, or a state about to tip blue?
00:14:57.000 It's a big and legitimate question because of the rapid pace of demographic change here.
00:15:02.000 Back in 2000, Georgia's population was 65% white.
00:15:06.000 That's down to 48% now.
00:15:08.000 Blacks.
00:15:08.000 were 29% of the Georgia population in 2000.
00:15:11.000 That's up to 32%.
00:15:13.000 Hispanics were 5% back in 2000.
00:15:16.000 More than 12% now.
00:15:18.000 And the Asian vote is also growing fast.
00:15:20.000 Just 2% of the population back in 2000.
00:15:23.000 Now above 5%.
00:15:25.000 So this is Marietta campus.
00:15:28.000 Kerry Foulkes lives in Atlanta.
00:15:29.000 Sees the change every drive to his graduate school studies in Marietta.
00:15:34.000 Suburban Cobb County was solid red 15 years ago.
00:15:37.000 Solid blue now.
00:15:39.000 Oh, you see that?
00:15:40.000 It's always revealing.
00:15:41.000 Yeah, but here, this is the one two punch.
00:15:44.000 You got to play that clip.
00:15:45.000 And now listen to Bernie Sanders, who used to be against mass migration and open borders, but he gets it now.
00:15:50.000 Check it out.
00:15:51.000 Sot one.
00:15:52.000 And what we have got to do is move this country as soon as possible to comprehensive immigration reform and a path toward citizenship.
00:16:03.000 You see this?
00:16:04.000 These little clues are all around you.
00:16:07.000 If you can put them together, their whole point is the Brazilification of America.
00:16:12.000 That's what they want to do.
00:16:13.000 So, Brazil is the ghost of Christmas future.
00:16:16.000 This is what we're looking at in our very, very near demographic future.
00:16:21.000 And it's all crazy.
00:16:23.000 Brazil's a crazy place.
00:16:24.000 We do not want to emulate Brazil where they throw Bolsonaro in prison for 27 years.
00:16:28.000 We do not want that.
00:16:29.000 Go ahead, Blake.
00:16:29.000 I was just thinking, you look at these videos and they say, oh, Georgia's tilting blue.
00:16:34.000 Is the narrative ever, oh, Republican governance has failed in this rapidly growing state?
00:16:39.000 No, it's basically never that.
00:16:40.000 It's always just that demographic change changed it.
00:16:43.000 I don't know that I've ever in recent history seen a story that says this state is tilting blue because Democrats have won elections and done incredibly well with their policies.
00:16:54.000 No, it is entirely identity based stuff.
00:16:57.000 And that's the only reason they ever stay blue.
00:17:01.000 No one thinks California is well run.
00:17:02.000 No.
00:17:03.000 Don't even Democrats think so.
00:17:04.000 And what's their pitch to voters?
00:17:06.000 What's the left wing pitch to voters?
00:17:09.000 I'll show it to you.
00:17:10.000 SOT 2.
00:17:11.000 Well, we're going to lower costs for the American people.
00:17:13.000 We've got to win the House or the Senate.
00:17:16.000 Well, how will we do this?
00:17:17.000 I have legislation with Chris Van Hollen.
00:17:20.000 We've got to get Republicans on board.
00:17:22.000 It raises taxes for people who make over a million dollars a year in income, and it provides tax cuts for people.
00:17:32.000 Individuals and even couples who make up to about $160,000 a year, that's some relief.
00:17:39.000 So, you see that the whole game is there.
00:17:42.000 They want demographic replacement, they want a third world America, and then they want to tax the producers to give money to the people they imported.
00:17:52.000 It's the whole game.
00:17:53.000 The whole game is we give you free stuff.
00:17:56.000 If you come in here and we're going to pay you with debit cards and free housing and free airfare to the place you want to go, you can bring in your TIAs and your TIOs.
00:18:04.000 And your nephews and your nieces, and we'll do this chain migration thing.
00:18:07.000 And you're going to vote Democrat because they're going to take money from rich white people and they're going to give it to the people they imported.
00:18:15.000 It's the whole game.
00:18:16.000 It's the whole game.
00:18:17.000 It's not because, to Blake's point, that they run anything well.
00:18:19.000 It's not that their progress, as they call it, makes anything better, makes it all worse.
00:18:25.000 But that's what they want.
00:18:27.000 They want to dismantle the things that have made America productive, successful, and rich, thriving, a beautiful place that people want to come to.
00:18:35.000 Gotta stop it.
00:18:37.000 Can't let it happen.
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00:20:09.000 Jay Feely here in studio.
00:20:11.000 We're so blessed to have him here.
00:20:12.000 So you are in a dogfight, but we're basically based on all the polling I've seen, and you confirmed this to me.
00:20:20.000 It's Like neck and neck.
00:20:21.000 It's 50 50.
00:20:23.000 Which is, I can't stress enough for the audience how important your seat is for defending Congress and the House.
00:20:30.000 We need to keep it in Republican hands.
00:20:32.000 I think you are the perfect guy for this.
00:20:34.000 And so let's just start fresh with our audience because we've already done this, but maybe people forget your backstory.
00:20:40.000 You were an NFL kicker, you were a broadcaster.
00:20:43.000 Let's start there.
00:20:45.000 All right.
00:20:45.000 So actually, after college, I didn't get drafted.
00:20:49.000 So I didn't go right into the NFL.
00:20:50.000 Where did you go to college?
00:20:51.000 I went to Michigan.
00:20:53.000 I'm sorry about that.
00:20:54.000 Won a national championship my senior year.
00:20:55.000 Met my wife at the beginning of that year.
00:20:57.000 It was a pretty good year for her.
00:20:58.000 Where's Danny groaning in the background?
00:21:00.000 He's an Ohio State fan.
00:21:02.000 Go Blue.
00:21:03.000 So I became a financial advisor.
00:21:04.000 I did that for a couple of years, opened my own office, and didn't know if I'd ever get in the NFL.
00:21:08.000 Kept doing tryouts.
00:21:10.000 My wife would, she was working too.
00:21:11.000 So literally, we would go to the middle school down the road, and I would kick and she'd shag balls and, you know, kept the dream alive.
00:21:18.000 And all of a sudden, I'd get an opportunity to go into camp, and I end up winning the job.
00:21:22.000 And now you're in the NFL.
00:21:24.000 Wow.
00:21:24.000 I'll tell you a funny story.
00:21:27.000 It's my rookie year where we have a little two bedroom apartment that we rented.
00:21:31.000 We have our first child.
00:21:32.000 And so, you know, I'd go to practice games, go home, and we go back.
00:21:35.000 And this is like 2001, you know, so there's no social media.
00:21:39.000 You go back and you're watching ESPN and watching the highlights.
00:21:43.000 And my first game winner was on my daughter's first birthday.
00:21:45.000 We go home to our apartment.
00:21:47.000 We're sitting there and I'm watching the highlights.
00:21:49.000 And Chris Berman goes, Jay, see me, touch me, feely with the game winner.
00:21:53.000 So Chris Berman gives me a nickname.
00:21:54.000 I'm like, this is the greatest thing ever.
00:21:56.000 Like, I've made it.
00:21:57.000 Chris Berman gave me a nickname.
00:21:58.000 That's about it.
00:21:59.000 That was, I mean, Chris Berman and his like rumbling, bumbling, stumbling, bumbling.
00:22:04.000 The Raiders.
00:22:06.000 The Raiders.
00:22:07.000 We want to be saying whoop for you, Alexander.
00:22:09.000 I know.
00:22:10.000 So I played 14 years.
00:22:11.000 I went right into broadcasting, broadcast for 10 years.
00:22:14.000 You know, on the business side, I sit on a couple of private boards, one here in Scottsdale, private companies, and helped start a couple of other companies, one in the longevity industry, actually, here in Arizona.
00:22:24.000 And decided, though, you know, that honestly, it was God's push.
00:22:28.000 You know, God.
00:22:29.000 God was pushing me.
00:22:30.000 My wife kept encouraging me the last couple of years.
00:22:32.000 Hey, what is God's purpose for you?
00:22:34.000 Is it broadcasting?
00:22:35.000 And candidly, I kept pushing back on her like, hey, I only have to work five months of the year.
00:22:39.000 I get seven months off.
00:22:40.000 I love the job.
00:22:40.000 I got to go do football games and I get paid really well.
00:22:43.000 Stop trying to push me out of this job.
00:22:46.000 But I did really get to that point.
00:22:48.000 I felt that way.
00:22:49.000 And when President Trump was shot, I've said that was a big moment for me where I started saying, hey, what are you willing to give up?
00:22:55.000 What comforts are you willing to sacrifice for your country?
00:22:58.000 And I have a brother in the Coast Guard and one in the Air Force.
00:23:01.000 So, You know, I know what real sacrifice is.
00:23:03.000 Running for office is not real sacrifice like serving our country is, but it is a type of sacrifice.
00:23:09.000 Oh, it's a huge sacrifice.
00:23:10.000 And we do need people who don't need the job, who want to go there not to enrich themselves.
00:23:14.000 We have politicians on both sides that go there to create a career, to stay in office, to enrich themselves.
00:23:19.000 And we need the opposite.
00:23:20.000 We need people that are willing to go there sacrificially and stand up for their beliefs.
00:23:24.000 I mean, we need Christians in office, like real Christians.
00:23:27.000 I remember the first time you were in our studio, and the thing I told Tyler when we.
00:23:33.000 Convened later, and he was like, How did it go?
00:23:35.000 And I was like, It's amazing.
00:23:36.000 I was like, Jay's a real Christian.
00:23:38.000 Like you're a, you're a, like out of the overflow of the heart, the mouth speaks.
00:23:43.000 And you spoke so much about what your family means to you, what your kids mean to you, the fact that they're believers, the fact that you get to raise your kids like that.
00:23:52.000 And I could just see how much, because I feel that too.
00:23:55.000 My kids' faith and the quality of their education.
00:23:57.000 It's the number one thing.
00:23:58.000 Yeah, it means everything.
00:23:59.000 That's right.
00:23:59.000 Everything else flows from the foundation of faith.
00:24:02.000 And so I really believe that we need Christians.
00:24:04.000 I mean, it's this whole like boogeyman, this Christian nationalism, all this.
00:24:07.000 That's not what this is.
00:24:08.000 It's, Do you have values to not be corrupted by your office?
00:24:12.000 Do you have values to put the country first, to put your values in the public sphere and defend our values and traditions and our history, our heritage?
00:24:20.000 Do you have enough values to not despise America?
00:24:23.000 Yes.
00:24:23.000 A lot of people very clearly do.
00:24:25.000 So I start with this I'm a sinner saved by grace, trying to live for Christ on a daily basis.
00:24:31.000 And I don't ever try to go out there and present an image that I'm perfect by any means.
00:24:37.000 But I am trying on a daily basis.
00:24:38.000 I get up every morning, my wife and I pray to put on God's armor and protection.
00:24:43.000 And then we try to honor him in everything we do, the way in which we think, the way in which we act, the way in which we speak.
00:24:49.000 And I think if you do that, like Speaker Johnson was out here this past week, and we did a couple of events together.
00:24:54.000 We did one with some pastors where we didn't talk politics at all, but just encourage them.
00:24:59.000 And he gave a great quote from John Quincy Adams.
00:25:02.000 And John Quincy Adams says, Duty is ours, the results are God's.
00:25:07.000 And that's where I'm residing for the next 30 days.
00:25:09.000 Like, let me do everything I can do because this seat is consequential, it will matter.
00:25:14.000 Right now, If you look at Cook Report, there's probably 21 seats in the House that are up for grabs.
00:25:18.000 We got to win basically half those seats to keep the House.
00:25:21.000 And we know the difference that this country will look like if Republicans keep the House and we're able to then go forward the next two years and continue all these plans that are having positive impacts in our country reshoring manufacturing, resetting trade parameters, the lowest crime in 60 years, tax cuts to all the individuals, mostly which are for people that are making less than $100,000.
00:25:45.000 You know, all these measures that you can look at and say, hey, the country's on the right track.
00:25:49.000 We're doing the right things, even though, you know, we want inflation to be lower and we want cost to come down for the average individual.
00:25:55.000 But the answers on the other side are all higher taxes.
00:25:58.000 I heard Mark Kelly say it yesterday.
00:25:59.000 They asked him in an interview.
00:26:00.000 He's like, I want to bring down cost.
00:26:02.000 And they're like, well, how do you do that?
00:26:03.000 More taxes.
00:26:04.000 That was his answer.
00:26:05.000 We were talking about this last week that they'll make a deal out of gas prices, which we should worry about.
00:26:11.000 But at the same time, it's like they're shutting down refineries in California.
00:26:15.000 Like their entire long term agenda is to make gasoline more expensive, make energy more expensive.
00:26:20.000 No question.
00:26:21.000 Because everything they did when they got in office, they shut down the Keystone Pipeline.
00:26:24.000 They stopped the leases in the Gulf and in the Pacific.
00:26:30.000 They stopped LNG exports.
00:26:33.000 Everything they did was based on this Green New Deal that was going to produce less energy.
00:26:38.000 And I always give the example when I'm talking to people of Germany, because Democrats, when they create policy, they base it on intention.
00:26:47.000 Like if the intention is good, they're trying to protect the environment, they're trying to help poor people.
00:26:51.000 If the intention is good, it's the right policy in their minds.
00:26:53.000 Whereas Republicans, conservatives, we're like, No, if the result is good, then that's the right policy.
00:26:59.000 It doesn't matter if your intention is good, you get the wrong policy.
00:27:01.000 I don't even buy the fact that our intentions are good.
00:27:03.000 Well, I'm being as generous as I can be.
00:27:06.000 You look at California, Gavin Newsom spends $37 billion on homelessness.
00:27:10.000 They have twice as many homeless.
00:27:11.000 You look at Germany.
00:27:12.000 Germany says, hey, we want to get rid of fossil fuels.
00:27:14.000 We want to go to renewables and we'll get rid of nuclear.
00:27:17.000 And what's the end result?
00:27:18.000 Their energy costs have doubled and they're relying on Russia, a foreign adversary, for their energy.
00:27:23.000 Terrible policy.
00:27:24.000 I just feel like one of the best arguments in favor of Republican governance, conservative governance is look at any jurisdiction at the state level where Republicans have won five elections in a row, and then look at one where Democrats have won five elections in a row.
00:27:36.000 What are the trajectories of those two places?
00:27:39.000 And even if it's in, oh, it's a flyover state, it's boring, it almost certainly has low cost of living.
00:27:44.000 It certainly probably has a growing population, growing economy.
00:27:47.000 All these things are going well.
00:27:48.000 And then in the Democrat states, California, Illinois, Colorado, even, the state that was booming became a blue state, and now it's another state that people don't really want to go there anymore.
00:27:58.000 Yeah.
00:27:59.000 And it's a, what their plan is, is demographic replacement.
00:28:03.000 They're very honest about it, pathway to citizenship.
00:28:05.000 They want the Brazilification of America.
00:28:08.000 And what they want to do is they want to tax the productive class to the bone and they want to give that money in freebies and buy votes.
00:28:15.000 That's the whole plan.
00:28:16.000 It's not because they're running their states well, it's not because they're running their cities well, it's because they're promising free giveaways to the voters they just imported.
00:28:25.000 And they're being honest about it for the first time.
00:28:27.000 Totally.
00:28:28.000 So you heard Chuck Schumer, you heard Congressman Tom Swoozy up in New York.
00:28:31.000 He said, I couldn't believe this.
00:28:33.000 He said, My number one priority, the most important thing I want to do in Congress is to give an amnesty.
00:28:39.000 To the tens of millions of people that we allowed across the border.
00:28:42.000 His number, okay, so your number one priority is not to protect the people of America, your constituents.
00:28:47.000 Your number one priority isn't to create the right economy or to bring down costs.
00:28:51.000 No, it's to give amnesty to the illegals that you allowed to come across the border.
00:28:54.000 Like that's asinine, but thank you for being honest about it so that we can draw a contrast for the voters.
00:28:59.000 Well, this is Arizona Democrat Joanna Mendoza.
00:29:03.000 She's literally attacking every good thing I like about this state.
00:29:05.000 Top five.
00:29:06.000 The big, beautiful bill, tax cuts, spending cuts.
00:29:09.000 Good for Congressional District 6?
00:29:11.000 No, we're hearing from folks that the tax cuts for billionaires actually are hurting everyday working folks.
00:29:20.000 Oh, so like no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax on Social Security.
00:29:26.000 That's actually hurting.
00:29:28.000 Doubling the child tax credit, allowing your auto loan interest to be deductible.
00:29:33.000 By the way, that's about 70 million people that have taken advantage on their last tax forms of those specific tax deductions.
00:29:41.000 And the majority, 90%, Are under a hundred thousand dollars.
00:29:46.000 It is so ridiculous and so asinine.
00:29:48.000 And Amisha says the same thing.
00:29:50.000 He says, I want to get rid of the working family tax cut.
00:29:53.000 It's the number one thing he wants to do, is get rid of that.
00:29:56.000 And at the same time, he says, You know, I care about affordability and I want to drive down costs.
00:29:59.000 No, and then when they ask him, Okay, how are you going to drive down the cost of housing?
00:30:04.000 More subsidies, government subsidies.
00:30:05.000 The answer is always government spending, it's always more government control because that is the socialist.
00:30:10.000 And it just doesn't work.
00:30:11.000 We've tried this so many times.
00:30:13.000 All it does is ruin things, all it does is lead to malaise, all it does is lead to stagnation.
00:30:18.000 Arizona is like, I moved here after Charlie was killed from California, and I came here and I instantly, you could feel it.
00:30:24.000 Like, this is a right of center state.
00:30:26.000 The people are happy.
00:30:27.000 The kids are growing up healthy.
00:30:29.000 They have choices where they send their kids to school.
00:30:32.000 Businesses are able to thrive.
00:30:33.000 The cost of living is still, like, reasonable, but it's under threat.
00:30:39.000 Like, and it's crazy.
00:30:40.000 Like, all you have to do is go live where I live for five seconds and realize the blessings of this state.
00:30:45.000 We got to keep it red.
00:30:46.000 We got to keep CD1 red.
00:30:47.000 All right, Jay, you're.
00:30:50.000 This is an irony I didn't realize.
00:30:53.000 You're running against a socialist.
00:30:56.000 And if you live in the Phoenix area, you'll see some signs that literally just have him with Bernie Sanders.
00:31:02.000 And, you know, he's like, you know, Amisha, the socialist.
00:31:06.000 She says, elect your local socialist.
00:31:08.000 Yeah, elect your local.
00:31:09.000 But what's an irony, like, I can't even believe a socialist is running neck and neck with you because you're quality people.
00:31:14.000 You're well known.
00:31:15.000 Your name idea is through the roof around here because of all your years with the Cardinals.
00:31:21.000 But he was actually, wasn't he a doctor for the team or something?
00:31:26.000 When I was with the Jets, when I was playing for the Jets.
00:31:28.000 Oh, I was with the Jets, okay.
00:31:29.000 He was a sideline doctor during the games, like an airway specialist, which is just some irony.
00:31:34.000 I was the one who figured that out.
00:31:36.000 I'm like, I think, let me see if he was on the team, you know, working for them when I was playing there.
00:31:40.000 What is with doctors and nurses and teachers?
00:31:43.000 And they're just, they tend to be, I don't know as much about doctors, but like those professions, you know, were the ones that celebrated Charlie's death the most, by far the most.
00:31:52.000 And I don't know.
00:31:53.000 One of the most disgusting things I've ever seen.
00:31:55.000 Totally.
00:31:56.000 And I don't understand what the draw is, but let's compare and contrast you two.
00:32:01.000 I mean, what's he for?
00:32:03.000 What are you for?
00:32:03.000 So the easiest way to compare and contrast it is capitalism versus socialism.
00:32:08.000 And he will try to present himself as a moderate.
00:32:10.000 That's what he's trying to do.
00:32:12.000 Here's the reality he has been a Bernie Sanders guy for 10 years.
00:32:16.000 He's campaigned with Bernie Sanders.
00:32:18.000 He has credited Bernie Sanders with taking the Democrat Party from where they were and moving them to where they are currently and thinks that's a very positive thing.
00:32:25.000 He thinks that's good?
00:32:26.000 No.
00:32:26.000 That's exactly right.
00:32:27.000 Now, he had a choice in his primary because the Democrats came out with a promise to America.
00:32:33.000 It was their pledge to repudiate the DSA, to say that we believe in capitalism, we believe in secure borders.
00:32:38.000 He chose not to sign that pledge.
00:32:41.000 So you made it very clear.
00:32:42.000 In fact, one of his opponents in the primary, who the DCCC endorsed, Marlene Woods, she signed the pledge.
00:32:47.000 So it's very clear if he's honest where he stands and what he believes.
00:32:51.000 He's donated to these groups, Indivisible and Our Revolution, these NGOs, that you go on their websites, it's all DSA principles abolish prisons, abolish borders, get rid of the police, abolish ICE, seize the means of production.
00:33:03.000 These are all Marxist beliefs and will fundamentally change the very nature of our country.
00:33:08.000 They want to abolish the Senate, they want a unicameral body.
00:33:11.000 One body that chooses the president.
00:33:13.000 You know, my sixth great grandfather was Roger Sherman.
00:33:16.000 Roger Sherman is one of our founding fathers.
00:33:18.000 He's the one who came up with bicameral legislation.
00:33:21.000 You know, he was the only member who signed all four of the founding documents.
00:33:25.000 You know, so it's personal to me.
00:33:27.000 And, you know, I think we just need to be able to say, this is exactly what they believe.
00:33:31.000 Here's the choice that we have in this election.
00:33:34.000 And, you know, he wants Medicare for all, socialized medicine.
00:33:38.000 When you look at the cost of that, and I think this is one of the reasons why a lot of Democrats aren't doing debates around the country.
00:33:44.000 In governor races here, obviously, in House seats.
00:33:47.000 He skipped a debate on PBS and two forums with the AARP.
00:33:52.000 When you promise these things, you don't want to have to get challenged on how to pay for it, how you're going to do it.
00:33:56.000 Socialized medicine, Medicare for all, the cost is somewhere between $30 and $50 trillion over a 10 year period.
00:34:03.000 We're $40 trillion in debt, and they want to add $30 to $50 trillion, and they can't tell you how they're going to pay for it.
00:34:09.000 And I'll just say, when we were talking in the last segment about Christians and Christians getting involved, when you look at the end result of socialized medicine, when you look in Canada, You begin to get to a situation where you put value on life.
00:34:23.000 And in Canada, the fourth leading cause of death right now is assisted suicide, their MADE program.
00:34:30.000 And you see lots of videos of people that are in their 40s who are presented with this option of assisted suicide in Canada because they're stage four cancer.
00:34:38.000 They leave Canada, they come to the US and they get the treatment that they actually need and hopefully can save their lives.
00:34:44.000 And the fact that you get to a point where you're like, well, I don't think your life is worth saving, so here's an option to kill yourself.
00:34:50.000 And then I saw a story in the Netherlands.
00:34:52.000 Where they just had a two year old that they did assisted suicide on.
00:34:56.000 You know, it's insane where this goes, the road that it takes us down.
00:35:00.000 It's why it's so important for Christians to get engaged in politics.
00:35:03.000 Right now, on average, 40 million Christians don't vote.
00:35:07.000 I just looked that up.
00:35:08.000 It's unbelievable.
00:35:09.000 Every presidential election since Reagan has been decided by less than 10 million votes.
00:35:14.000 And we have 40 million Christians that sit on the sidelines.
00:35:17.000 I saw some pastors who came out and talked about it.
00:35:19.000 And, you know, the reality is I'd love to go and talk to all the churches in the district.
00:35:23.000 You know, even on a Saturday, and sit down and say, Hey, here's who I am.
00:35:27.000 This is what I believe.
00:35:28.000 Here's where my faith is.
00:35:29.000 And ask any question that you want.
00:35:31.000 But so often, those doors aren't open.
00:35:32.000 So many pastors are scared of allowing you to come in and allowing that even the opportunity to talk to the people at their church.
00:35:39.000 I totally agree.
00:35:40.000 It was one of Charlie's biggest pet peeves.
00:35:41.000 It's why we launched TPOSA Faith.
00:35:43.000 If you seed the public arena, nature abhors a vacuum.
00:35:48.000 And guess who's going to fill that vacuum?
00:35:49.000 People who don't like our values that don't like this country, candidly.
00:35:53.000 Yeah, I mean, here it is.
00:35:54.000 Among self identified Christians, I just looked this up when we were talking, or born again Christians, they project about 41 million do not vote.
00:36:03.000 41 million.
00:36:03.000 And if you go to self identified Christians who regularly.
00:36:07.000 Attend church, about 32 million do not vote.
00:36:10.000 It's crazy.
00:36:10.000 We talk about regular church.
00:36:12.000 We always get these emails where people say, you know, how can I help?
00:36:14.000 And one of the things Charlie emphasized and we try to repeat is just if you go to church, talk to the people that you know people, or if you're in a shooting club, if you're a hunter, talk to these people, like people you assume are voting, actually ask because you will be stunned over and over.
00:36:32.000 They think, ah, nah, I forget.
00:36:34.000 I don't get around to it.
00:36:35.000 Not really my thing.
00:36:37.000 And they're people who, because of their priorities, their values, what they care about, They should be on our side.
00:36:42.000 They should be engaged.
00:36:43.000 Yeah, totally.
00:36:43.000 Liberal churches are one of the most active people.
00:36:47.000 Yeah.
00:36:47.000 Liberal churches will push their idea.
00:36:49.000 Look at James Talrico and the heretic that he is and what they push in that church, how they pervert the word of God for their political means, you know?
00:36:58.000 And that's why we need to be transparent and stand up.
00:37:00.000 We had a clip in the cold open of Talrico saying, all religions are the same road to the same truth.
00:37:06.000 And it's like, dude, you're not a Christian.
00:37:08.000 Jesus said, I am the way, the truth, and the life.
00:37:10.000 No one comes to the Father but through me.
00:37:12.000 By the way, you know, This mission is this broader mission of saving the West.
00:37:16.000 Is you know, the West is Christendom, and we need to save it.
00:37:19.000 There's a reason these cultures have become so beautiful and thriving and prosperous.
00:37:23.000 We need to save the underlying fundamental root cause, which is our faith, our values.
00:37:28.000 And you embody that perfectly.
00:37:30.000 Go to jfeelyforcongress.com, donate to this man directly to this man.
00:37:35.000 He has to win in CD.
00:37:36.000 We're going to do it.
00:37:36.000 The whole house could hinge on this one race.
00:37:39.000 Thanks for having me.
00:37:39.000 You're a great man, a great American, and a good Christian man.
00:37:42.000 Thank you.
00:37:42.000 Thank you for coming.
00:37:42.000 Appreciate it.
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00:38:34.000 So we've got Nathan Kaufness up first and we've got Raheem Kassam.
00:38:38.000 So we're going to be talking about Western civilization writ large in general.
00:38:43.000 And there's a lot of problems, as we have often pointed out.
00:38:46.000 And Nathan Kaufness, you might remember, we had him on the show once because.
00:38:51.000 Of the Ardai affair at Cambridge, where he did a substack and it blew up and it ended up, you know, ending in his ouster.
00:38:59.000 Ardai, Professor Ardai.
00:39:01.000 Well, yes.
00:39:01.000 So, I mean, just to remind people, Ardai was the star, one of the youngest black professors in Cambridge history.
00:39:09.000 And Nathan wrote a blog post that just pointed out he is a plagiarist.
00:39:13.000 He is basically a fraudster.
00:39:15.000 And it caused a whole cascade.
00:39:17.000 Apparently, his whole life was a lie.
00:39:19.000 And then, unfortunately, Mr. Ardai.
00:39:21.000 Took his own life.
00:39:22.000 Took his own life.
00:39:22.000 And then this turned around into they decided to drop the investigation of how this happened.
00:39:27.000 They basically just turned it into, well, I think we should welcome Nathan and describe it.
00:39:31.000 So, Nathan, welcome back to the show.
00:39:33.000 Welcome back to the show.
00:39:35.000 So, first of all, let's just remind people what happened after this.
00:39:41.000 They decided to turn you into this scapegoat villain as if you did anything wrong by exposing someone who was fraudulently allowed into the university by the senior people in British academia.
00:39:53.000 Well, I mean, not to be defensive about it, but all I did was publish one article that just said true, it was just full of true statements that.
00:40:03.000 Arde was a plagiarist and a fraud and made up his life story.
00:40:08.000 I wrote one article and that was it.
00:40:11.000 In a 22 day period, the British press published 249 articles about Jason Arde making it a national sport to make fun of him for every lie he ever told since he was a kid.
00:40:27.000 And then Cambridge University, after setting Arde up for this humiliation, Place him on finally, they place him under investigation, basically force him to resign.
00:40:40.000 He goes home and then, you know, kills himself.
00:40:43.000 So, if one were to assign moral blame for what happened, you know, I would argue that I was not, I am not the right person to point the finger at.
00:40:56.000 But you see that it was in many people's interest to scapegoat me in the press, the university, everybody's letting me take the fall.
00:41:07.000 For the bad outcome for this situation.
00:41:12.000 So there was a lot of hate directed at me.
00:41:15.000 And in response to that, Ghent University, which had always had it out for me for months, suspended me.
00:41:24.000 And then, after mediation by the US ambassador Bill White, the suspension was lifted.
00:41:32.000 But then they banned me from campus and from teaching for 90 days.
00:41:38.000 And in the whole confusion, the Belgian government funded anti racist organization in Belgium has filed a criminal complaint against me for racism.
00:41:58.000 So now they're trying to put me in jail.
00:42:00.000 Yeah.
00:42:00.000 So that's why we invited you on here.
00:42:02.000 So this group, it's a little opaque to us in America.
00:42:05.000 It's UNIA, UNIA, however they want to say it.
00:42:09.000 So, this is a private actor, but you say it is beginning a process to potentially imprison you for bad thoughts.
00:42:16.000 And I know you state it's allegedly over a talk that you gave last spring, but we have to presume the main reason this is happening is likely the Ardé affair.
00:42:27.000 It made you an acceptable target once again.
00:42:30.000 That's right.
00:42:31.000 So, I gave a talk to the Catholic Flemish Student Association in April.
00:42:37.000 Afterwards, an Antifa guy wearing a kefia.
00:42:42.000 Hurled a bottle at my face and gave me a concussion.
00:42:46.000 And I reported that to the police, and everything was on CCTV, and he was identified, and the prosecutor declined to do anything about it.
00:42:54.000 So that's not a crime in Belgium.
00:42:57.000 But the talk, where I just described the history of wokeism, the history of this idea that all groups of people are innately exactly the same, that is the crime that they're taking very seriously.
00:43:13.000 This UNIA organization that you mentioned, they are theoretically independent, but they're funded almost entirely by the government.
00:43:22.000 So the government funds them to search for racists.
00:43:27.000 And when they find a racist, they report it to the prosecutor's office.
00:43:31.000 So that's the stage that we're at.
00:43:34.000 Now, what the prosecutor decides to do with this, we'll see.
00:43:40.000 But from an American perspective, it sounds like totally implausible that anything could come of this.
00:43:46.000 But in Europe, people do go to jail for saying politically incorrect things.
00:43:52.000 Are you allowed to leave Belgium right now?
00:43:54.000 Is that where you're at currently?
00:43:55.000 I mean, yes.
00:43:58.000 If they would.
00:43:59.000 Put a hold on my passport, which is not impossible.
00:44:03.000 That would happen at a later stage.
00:44:05.000 My goodness.
00:44:07.000 So let's just lay this out.
00:44:09.000 You called out Jason Arde for being the plagiarist he was.
00:44:12.000 Nobody is.
00:44:13.000 Nobody has ever debunked this.
00:44:14.000 No, they're not debunking your sub stack.
00:44:19.000 Nobody's saying that he actually wasn't a plagiarist.
00:44:21.000 Everybody's acknowledging that he was.
00:44:23.000 You actually brought it to light.
00:44:25.000 You didn't write follow up articles.
00:44:26.000 You didn't attack him further.
00:44:28.000 Maybe a tweet here or there, whatever.
00:44:30.000 But the British press went crazy on this story.
00:44:33.000 I mean, That's over the pond.
00:44:35.000 We were hearing about it over here like crazy.
00:44:37.000 It was also a huge story here.
00:44:39.000 He then takes his own life.
00:44:41.000 There's marches in the cities in London.
00:44:43.000 People are holding up a picture of you, your name, painting you as the villain for pointing out that this guy was doing bad things.
00:44:51.000 And now Belgium is coming after you and potentially going to throw you in jail, citing as a, I would say, a convenient scapegoat some speech that you gave about woke culture and the history of woke, which I'm going to watch, by the way.
00:45:08.000 You know, it's like, I looked it up.
00:45:11.000 This channel has a thousand subscribers.
00:45:14.000 I mean, this is obviously just a convenient excuse to demonize you, villainize you, and imprison you because of the Jason Arte saga.
00:45:25.000 Like, this whole thing is bonkers to me.
00:45:28.000 And I hope our State Department is communicating with Belgium saying, you're not going to do this.
00:45:33.000 You're not going to do this to our American citizen.
00:45:35.000 Have you heard?
00:45:35.000 Is there any update on that front?
00:45:38.000 You know, I.
00:45:41.000 I just got in trouble there.
00:45:44.000 The university was persecuting me for my free speech, which is obviously against American values.
00:45:53.000 And Ambassador Bill White comes in like a superhero and set things straight.
00:46:01.000 But, you know, I can't rely on the idea that somebody is going to come rescue me.
00:46:10.000 But, You know, it would, I hope that there would, the Trump administration would continue to take an interest in these kinds of matters.
00:46:22.000 They should and they must.
00:46:23.000 And we'll try and do our part here because this is just, this is absolutely not acceptable anywhere in the Western civilization.
00:46:35.000 You are getting punished for bad, like wrong thing, essentially, which we thought was just, you know, a story.
00:46:40.000 It was just, you know, these are just, 1984.
00:46:44.000 It's crazy the direction that Europe has gone in.
00:46:47.000 Well, we're actually going in a good direction on speech, I think.
00:46:49.000 Yeah, we are, but this can't happen.
00:46:54.000 You said something in our first segment, Nathan, that I want to revisit.
00:46:57.000 You said in the American context, it seems obscene, absurd, bizarre, implausible that anybody would be thrown in jail for a speech they gave, right?
00:47:08.000 About wokeness, the history of wokeness.
00:47:10.000 But in the Belgian context, that is actually.
00:47:14.000 Quite plausible, and it happens all the time.
00:47:16.000 So, for our audience that is not familiar, doesn't know what it feels like on the streets and in daily life in Europe, what is the state of free speech in the country you're currently residing in?
00:47:28.000 If you have a conversation with a European about free speech, they'll say, Of course, we have free speech.
00:47:36.000 You're free to say what the government says you're allowed to say.
00:47:41.000 And you say, No, that's not what I mean.
00:47:44.000 Free speech means you can say what you want to say.
00:47:47.000 But your own thoughts, and even if somebody disagrees with it, even if the government doesn't agree with it, they don't know what you're talking about.
00:47:55.000 You cannot communicate a concept that they don't have the concept.
00:48:00.000 They don't understand.
00:48:01.000 If you try to explain, well, you could say this very politically incorrect thing in America, even something that's wrong and evil and bad, you're still allowed to say it.
00:48:11.000 They say, well, why would you be allowed to say that?
00:48:13.000 There should be a law against that.
00:48:15.000 How could you have a society if people can just say what they think?
00:48:20.000 So it's.
00:48:21.000 We have a very long way to go.
00:48:24.000 I don't even know how to start having a discussion with them about free speech.
00:48:32.000 That's where we're at right now.
00:48:34.000 So, we have this clip from Emmanuel Macron that I think encapsulates kind of what you're saying about free speech.
00:48:42.000 It's him complaining about it, actually.
00:48:44.000 SOT 6.
00:48:45.000 Because, I mean, free speech is a pure bullshit.
00:48:47.000 If nobody knows how you are guided through this so called free speech, Especially when it's to be guided from one hated speech to another hated speech.
00:48:57.000 I just want to have a transparent road through these different speeches, and I want, by the way, to have a sort of public order.
00:49:05.000 I want to avoid racist speech, hated speech, and so on.
00:49:10.000 And the third one.
00:49:12.000 Okay, so that's him saying free speech is BS.
00:49:15.000 We had to bleep it out.
00:49:16.000 He apparently knows how to swear.
00:49:18.000 He just throws out everything in the media.
00:49:21.000 It's just, I don't want racist speech.
00:49:22.000 We don't want racist speech.
00:49:24.000 We want public order.
00:49:26.000 It's very funny.
00:49:27.000 I was also myself looking up Germany's basic law.
00:49:29.000 It's like their constitution, and it says everyone has freedom of speech and there shall be no censorship.
00:49:34.000 This shall be subject to rules to protect personal honor and young people and public.
00:49:41.000 Is it really just like that?
00:49:42.000 They can't even, the concept really just doesn't make sense to them.
00:49:46.000 The idea of speech is just like that.
00:49:48.000 I don't know if it's just that everybody who desired freedom went to the United States through hundreds of years of emigration.
00:50:00.000 Or just it's that, or culturally, they just somehow never got it.
00:50:06.000 But Europeans don't have the same desire for freedom that Americans have.
00:50:15.000 It's a very profound cultural difference.
00:50:20.000 I don't know exactly where it comes from.
00:50:22.000 Do you feel like within that context, is the situation getting, I mean, obviously, your own case suggests the answer, but is the situation getting.
00:50:31.000 Noticeably worse in the last few years.
00:50:33.000 I've sort of detected this from across the pond the way in German politics they're getting, they're talking much more openly should we ban the AFD party for being criminal?
00:50:45.000 That they're in France, they initiate a lot of legal proceedings against Le Pen and other politicians for alleged hate speech.
00:50:53.000 In Britain, we hear a lot about arrest.
00:50:54.000 Is it getting just noticeably worse across the board?
00:50:57.000 And is it laws that are getting worse or just bureaucrats are getting more aggressive?
00:51:01.000 Public sentiment.
00:51:02.000 Yeah, public sentiment too.
00:51:04.000 They've always been like that.
00:51:06.000 They've never had free speech.
00:51:08.000 They just swing between left and right wing fascism.
00:51:12.000 It's gotten worse in the sense that they have more to cover up and they have more that needs to be protected from the critical examination that would result if we had free speech.
00:51:27.000 So, with the obviously mass immigration, many people and the issues that that's a huge issue in Europe.
00:51:37.000 And if people have freedom of speech, then they would say things that are.
00:51:45.000 That makes people upset about that.
00:51:46.000 So there was a guy in Belgium, Vries.
00:51:50.000 I haven't learned any Dutch, but anyway, Vries, he cited statistics regarding immigration and crime.
00:52:02.000 And he was reported, like I was reported, he was reported for racism.
00:52:08.000 And he was ultimately, the judge said that, yes, the statistics you cited were correct.
00:52:18.000 But you're guilty of racism.
00:52:21.000 And he got a jail sentence.
00:52:23.000 And the judge said, We're not, you're not being convicted of spreading misinformation.
00:52:28.000 You're being convicted of hate speech.
00:52:31.000 Because he presented the information in a way that the judge decided was motivated by hate.
00:52:41.000 So even though there was no dispute about the fact, it was because he was hateful by saying the fact.
00:52:49.000 So.
00:52:52.000 That's why they can't have free speech, or people would say the hateful fact and then maybe the return against immigration.
00:53:00.000 Well, and this is what's up to these policies.
00:53:03.000 Mass migration has created a far larger victim class across the West, and we have civil rights laws and hate speech laws.
00:53:11.000 And so the body of potential victims is just expanding, expanding, expanding.
00:53:17.000 And when you, so essentially, we've created a protection system, a racket.
00:53:22.000 To protect the mass migration that the left so desperately wants.
00:53:26.000 I mean, in France, we have parties that are openly calling for the creolization of France.
00:53:31.000 They want the demographic replacement.
00:53:33.000 And anybody that stands in the way of that will now be the truth.
00:53:37.000 And they're like, oh, you said the true thing, but for the wrong reason.
00:53:40.000 By the way, people probably think I'm exaggerating, that that isn't exactly what happened.
00:53:46.000 That is exactly what happened.
00:53:47.000 The judge sending you to jail.
00:53:51.000 You're not being prosecuted for misinformation, you're being prosecuted for hate.
00:53:56.000 So, there it was just simply quoting facts, citing facts is a crime.
00:54:01.000 I think one of those memos they made once was cited malinformation, which is the use of possibly likely true information but in evil ways.
00:54:11.000 And that's one of the things they go against.
00:54:13.000 Nathan, please keep us posted as this goes.
00:54:17.000 What's happening, this persecution and prosecution is unacceptable, especially for an American citizen abroad.
00:54:24.000 And we'll do our part to make sure that this.
00:54:27.000 Stays front of mind for the State Department because you need to be protected against this persecution.
00:54:33.000 It's vile.
00:54:35.000 Nathan Kofnuss newsletter, Substack.
00:54:37.000 Be sure to check that out.
00:54:39.000 And thank you for coming on, Nathan.
00:54:41.000 Thank you.
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00:55:49.000 This has been a fascinating study in European politics and the state of the land.
00:55:53.000 Something's not right.
00:55:54.000 Something is not right with those people.
00:55:56.000 And we have Rahim Kassam, who is, by the way, the National Pulse is an absolute must read.
00:56:03.000 The National Pulse, everybody check it out.
00:56:05.000 Rahim does a great job running that website, and you'll get news from a perspective that actually makes sense.
00:56:11.000 But also, Rahim understands the European mindset, he understands the British mindset.
00:56:15.000 And he spent a lot of time in Paris and all this stuff.
00:56:17.000 We wanted to have him on about this.
00:56:19.000 Hey, Raheem, how are you doing, my friend?
00:56:21.000 Good to see you.
00:56:22.000 I'm well, coming to you live from London today.
00:56:25.000 Thank you for having me.
00:56:25.000 Oh, well, there you go.
00:56:26.000 Somebody's got to do it.
00:56:28.000 So, Raheem, France is burning again, and we are going to get into England because there's a crazy story about a migrant boat that we got to hit.
00:56:36.000 And just the liberal brain, the progressive brain, it's like they see a problem and they're like, how can we exasperate it?
00:56:43.000 How can we make it worse instead of fixing it?
00:56:45.000 Anyways, France is burning, and I don't think our audience is fully aware of the.
00:56:49.000 Context.
00:56:50.000 The protest, I read it from the National Pulse, your article, you had a great background on it.
00:56:54.000 The protest ostensibly began as a response to teacher shortages, large classroom sizes, poorly maintained school infrastructure, and inadequate ventilation during recent heat waves.
00:57:05.000 Inadequate ventilation.
00:57:06.000 And so that's why they're setting schools on fire.
00:57:09.000 And we also spotted some Palestinian flags.
00:57:11.000 Palestinian flags, yes.
00:57:12.000 Tell us, Rahim, what is going on in France and how widespread is this?
00:57:16.000 Yeah, hence the use of the word ostensibly, because these were the reasons that have been given by French authorities.
00:57:25.000 For riots that have now been taking place for about a week, predominantly now with what they call migrant background individuals.
00:57:39.000 It's just a sort of euphemistic way to say migrants, maybe illegal migrants, almost always in such cases, people who have entered into the country unlawfully, even though they may currently have legal status thanks to French government policies.
00:57:56.000 And you said we'd get to England.
00:57:59.000 I'm afraid those people will get to England as well.
00:58:01.000 And that is why the big sort of protests are kicking off here on our south coast, because they're looking at places like Paris, because they're looking at northern France, because they're looking at other parts of the continent, whereby these people who, remember, did not come to Europe, did not get there of their own volition, but were brought to Europe.
00:58:29.000 By the likes of Angela Merkel in 2015, when she said, Everybody come one, come all, we can do this.
00:58:36.000 You're all doctors and nurses and engineers and scientists and nuclear physicists from Angola, and we'd love to have you.
00:58:45.000 And they were also brought by these aid organizations, and these aid organizations coming under intense scrutiny now, especially in England, because fundamentally, what do we have here?
00:59:00.000 We have a modern day slave trade.
00:59:02.000 You know, these people are coming over and effectively entering into indentured servitude to the people who they paid to bring them over.
00:59:08.000 These are criminal gangs.
00:59:10.000 They are mass human trafficking organizations.
00:59:14.000 And I, you know, sitting here in the country of William Wilberforce, can't help but think that he may be rolling in his grave just about a half mile down the road from where I sit in Westminster Abbey to think that the governments of these countries are not just bystanders, not just feckless, not just.
00:59:34.000 I mean, we don't even have an elected prime minister in this country, but are complicit, actually.
00:59:41.000 And that Andy Burnham in the United Kingdom and that Emmanuel Macron are actually traffickers themselves.
00:59:50.000 I think that's, honestly, I know that's not the way the media paints it, but you're 100% right.
00:59:55.000 We have been subjected to this mass migration that nobody voted for, nobody wanted, nobody set out and said, hey, I want to see the demographic replacement of all of Europe and all of America, and I want to see it done in 20, 30 years.
01:00:08.000 But this has been absolutely the project of the bureaucrat class, and Europe has got it worse than some and most because it happens to be right next door to Muslim countries in the Middle East.
01:00:20.000 That's where the refugees come from.
01:00:23.000 I thank the Lord.
01:00:24.000 Listen, I can't stand illegal immigration, but I thank the Lord that at least to our south we have Catholics.
01:00:29.000 The Muslim situation.
01:00:30.000 I want to show a picture, though.
01:00:32.000 Throw this picture.
01:00:33.000 I zoomed in on this picture of this police, or I guess it's a fireman, a firefighter in France that was caught on fire.
01:00:39.000 There was some.
01:00:40.000 Some rubbish, you would say.
01:00:42.000 Yeah, burning trash set off an aerosol cam, blew up in his face.
01:00:45.000 Yeah, and so these, but look at the faces of these kids.
01:00:48.000 Is like when you, when the average American thinks of French school aged kids that are old enough to be riding out, is this the picture?
01:00:56.000 I mean, look at this.
01:00:57.000 These are all minorities, all of them.
01:01:00.000 I mean, maybe there's a few non minorities.
01:01:02.000 This is, this is the future of France.
01:01:05.000 I mean, we saw this maybe a little bit in the World Cup, but this is, I mean, it's so much more drastic than I think.
01:01:13.000 People over 50 probably assume.
01:01:16.000 But the demographic replacement regime is dramatic.
01:01:19.000 And you're in London and you could probably feel it there.
01:01:21.000 I mean, it's dramatic.
01:01:24.000 From 2000 to 2026, it's just transformed the entirety of that city.
01:01:29.000 Yeah, look, I mean, I wrote a book about this in 2015 and 16 called No Go Zones, where I went around to increasingly Muslim and Arab dominated neighborhoods, not just across Europe, but in the United States as well.
01:01:43.000 You know, I remember writing about Dearborn and writing about Hamtramck.
01:01:46.000 And warning people, you know, the subtitle of the book was How Sharia is Coming to a Neighborhood Near You.
01:01:51.000 And, you know, of course, I was called an alarmist and a racist, and you name it.
01:01:57.000 But actually, actually, if you go back and look at the prognostications that I made in that book, I kind of regret not going further.
01:02:07.000 I don't think I actually went far enough.
01:02:09.000 And remember at the time how hard it was to talk about those issues and how hard it was to get, you know, people actually discussing them around the dinner table and discussing them on news TV and all of this stuff.
01:02:22.000 And of course, look at today.
01:02:23.000 Look at today in Michigan.
01:02:25.000 I said at the time, Michigan is trending in a direction where you're going to have these issues, not just written to certain neighborhoods like Dearborn and Abtrammick, but actually written statewide.
01:02:35.000 Oh, Rahim, you're crazy.
01:02:36.000 You're a crazy person.
01:02:37.000 We can't have you talking about such things on television shows.
01:02:41.000 And so we'll never invite you back again.
01:02:44.000 And that, by the way, applies to some of the largest, I won't get into naming names here, largest supposedly center right broadcasters.
01:02:53.000 In the United States, just disappeared from their airwaves overnight after writing that book.
01:02:58.000 So, yes, you can see it here in London.
01:03:00.000 Yes, you can absolutely feel it in France.
01:03:02.000 And when you look at the riots and protests and things like that that are going on, one other thing has to be mentioned.
01:03:08.000 They're not stopping them.
01:03:10.000 They're barely trying to stop them.
01:03:14.000 These guys are now teamed up with Mélenchon, who is the far left leader, the communist leader in France, and they are being egged on by the very types of people that the French left seek to become their next presidents and prime ministers.
01:03:29.000 This Islamification has undergone an intense.
01:03:34.000 Institutionalization in the last 18 months, and you're seeing it in the US too.
01:03:41.000 That's that's just terrifying, is because you know, I am a Europhile, I'm an Anglophile.
01:03:48.000 I, this is what bred, it's what gave birth to the American experiment and this beautiful land that we love.
01:03:56.000 And the, the, so to see Europe come to such straits, self imposed by a demographic replacement that they are now.
01:04:05.000 Feckless and unable to stop because it has been institutionalized is very, very troubling.
01:04:10.000 And I, yeah.
01:04:11.000 Well, yeah, ask your thing.
01:04:12.000 No, I have a clip I want to play because it does relate to domestic politics.
01:04:17.000 And we have a midterm coming up.
01:04:19.000 I understand prices of gas are high, there's frustration in the base.
01:04:23.000 But look at what we have accomplished.
01:04:26.000 And the contrast with Europe and what they're going through is so stark.
01:04:30.000 Sot 10.
01:04:31.000 The Donald Trump administration is arguably the most influential this century.
01:04:36.000 And probably as well, dating back a good portion of the last century as well.
01:04:40.000 Trump ran and has always run on a very hawkish immigration platform.
01:04:44.000 Get this 2025 net migration in the United States down at least 60% from last year.
01:04:50.000 In fact, we may be heading for the first time in at least 50 years in which we have net negative, net negative migration into the United States.
01:04:59.000 And last year, of course, in 2024, the net migration in the U.S. was 2.8 million.
01:05:04.000 This year, we might be talking about negative net migration.
01:05:07.000 My goodness gracious.
01:05:10.000 How significant is that, Rahim?
01:05:12.000 You're a student of history and living memory, basically.
01:05:15.000 He said 50 years.
01:05:16.000 I think in living memory, we haven't seen this.
01:05:18.000 How significant is this one issue to the future of Western civilization?
01:05:23.000 Well, massive, and not least because of the impact that it's also now having around the world.
01:05:29.000 So to European nations, and you're seeing it in Germany with the alternative of Deutschland, you're seeing with the rise of Marine Le Pen, you're seeing it here in the United Kingdom now, too.
01:05:39.000 The all of these guys have gone from well, you know, we can cut immigration to actually no, we've got to follow those guys, we've got to follow our American friends, we've got to have negative net migration.
01:05:51.000 The only problem is that we worry at the moment because we don't just have an immigration crisis, we have an emigration crisis.
01:05:59.000 You know, the young white people are leaving this country, wealthy people are leaving this country, the job creators are leaving this country, and so it's not even just enough now to talk about net negative migration, you also have to get into Who that means is leaving because otherwise you're going to just end up chasing away people you want here and calling it net negative migration.
01:06:21.000 Well, I, yeah, I mean, that's I actually hadn't thought about that, but that does make a lot of sense.
01:06:26.000 I mean, we're, I don't know where they're going to go because America is embracing DSA right now.
01:06:31.000 So, I mean, if you're betting on the futures here, we're going to have potentially a lot more DSA candidates win, enter office, and keep promoting the same malaise that is so burdened parts of Europe, including England, Rahim.
01:06:46.000 So, I think this is.
01:06:47.000 Endemic across, I get maybe you could go to South America.
01:06:50.000 Maybe that's where you go.
01:06:51.000 South America, they seem to be going right right now.
01:06:54.000 So I don't know what the answer is.
01:06:56.000 Raheem, you are so important to the conservative movement in the UK.
01:07:01.000 I really think people do not appreciate how instrumental you have been, both with Brexit, the rise of Nigel Farage.
01:07:09.000 Brexit, actual Brexit.
01:07:10.000 Yeah, what did I say?
01:07:11.000 He said Brexit.
01:07:12.000 Oh, that's funny.
01:07:13.000 Oh, well.
01:07:14.000 Now known as Rise, by the way.
01:07:17.000 Now known as Rise.
01:07:19.000 But Brexit.
01:07:20.000 And you have been there from such an early state, and people don't understand.
01:07:25.000 You know it intimately well, and you know how important.
01:07:29.000 The immigration topic is the migration topic is to Nigel Farage and reform.
01:07:34.000 So, but this is crazy.
01:07:36.000 And I'm going to read a tweet from Patrick Christus.
01:07:39.000 He says, We are through the looking glass now.
01:07:41.000 Police have put an entire British town under something called Section 34 dispersal order, meaning they can even order residents to leave and not return just so they can import a boat full of illegal migrants.
01:07:54.000 This is like bananas.
01:07:56.000 So, this boat arrives on the shore.
01:07:59.000 What is Section 34?
01:08:00.000 What are the, I mean, this just seems bizarre to an American context.
01:08:03.000 Like somebody comes in and tells me I have to leave my house because migrants have come in.
01:08:07.000 Like, what is actually going on?
01:08:09.000 Separate fact from fiction here, Raheem.
01:08:11.000 Well, I'm afraid the fact sounds like fiction, right?
01:08:17.000 I mean, the anarcho tyranny, the reality of what's going on in small English towns, not just on the coast, by the way.
01:08:29.000 It's like you had, you know, under Joe Biden, every town's a border town now because these people, these migrants who come in on these, you know, what are deemed small boats, we'll get into that in a second, the nomenclature that's used, they're actually dispersed all around the country.
01:08:47.000 But this is a particular example on the southern coast of England that's taken place overnight last night.
01:08:54.000 And I don't want people to think that these are just, you know, one offs, that this happens maybe once every two or three months or anything like that.
01:09:00.000 No, no, no, no.
01:09:02.000 This sort of thing is happening every day, or at least every other day.
01:09:07.000 The scale of it may differ.
01:09:10.000 But you're talking about several hundred migrants that, again, to recap what we were talking about in the last block, are pushed into Europe, are pushed into France, make their way through France, get to northern France, get to places like Calais, paying human traffickers all along the way.
01:09:32.000 The Home Secretary, who's in charge of immigration, the Minister, who's in charge of immigration, In the United Kingdom today, said that no woman on that entire route, no migrant woman on that entire route, has not been raped, by the way.
01:09:46.000 So, this is the sorts of things that they're aware of.
01:09:51.000 And then they take these little dinghies, right?
01:09:53.000 Or they used to be little dinghies.
01:09:54.000 Now they've gotten quite big.
01:09:57.000 About two weeks ago, you had several hundred people on one of these.
01:10:01.000 I mean, it's literally a scene out of Camp of the Saints, which a lot of the audience will hopefully be aware of.
01:10:09.000 The 19.
01:10:10.000 1960s, Congress Fire Book.
01:10:14.000 Now, what will happen is these people will get, you know, within a couple of dozen miles of the British coastline, and then the British Coast Guard or the Life Guard will go out and rescue that boat using British taxpayer resources, bring those people into port and process them, taking, you know, asylum claims, you know, all of this sort of thing.
01:10:41.000 In this town, Gosport, I mean, there have been protests all across the summer about this stuff.
01:10:46.000 But in this one particular town, I mean, people are so reasonably irate that they've been taking to the streets, they've been protesting, they've been using what should be a right to free speech and free assembly.
01:10:58.000 And the police, in response, have issued this Section 34 order.
01:11:03.000 It's a dispersal order, it's meant for situations wherein criminal gangs are trying to take over cities.
01:11:13.000 And there has to be an element of sort of what you would call martial law.
01:11:16.000 But in this instance, it's being used to suppress ordinary people in the town from even leaving their homes so that they may not join protests, so that they may not demonstrate.
01:11:26.000 I mean, a lot of these people have taken it upon themselves to sort of lay nails across roadways so that these migrants cannot go any further than the port, you know, because otherwise they're bussed to all different parts of the country.
01:11:39.000 They're bussed to nice, swanky hotels all around the country.
01:11:42.000 They're put up at enormous taxpayer expense, by the way.
01:11:44.000 I'm talking billions and billions across the years that this has been going on.
01:11:50.000 And, you know, now we're seeing again, to stress this point, this kind of anarcho tyranny that's going on in the United Kingdom, that the penalties are aimed at the ordinary law abiding citizens for simply speaking their minds rather than the criminal, illegal aliens who are breaking into the country and causing havoc.
01:12:12.000 Yeah, Rahim, it's just, I feel, I talk to my friends, I have some friends in Britain, and it feels like every day there's headlines that are bafflingly insane.
01:12:21.000 I just saw this one.
01:12:22.000 A man who tried to break into the Israeli embassy in London to carry out a knife attack has been jailed for life.
01:12:27.000 Abdul Al Badri arrived in the UK on a small boat 16 days before making this knife attack, but waved him in, gets a knife, does this attack.
01:12:36.000 That we have, yeah, these boats are arriving.
01:12:39.000 They're shutting down entire towns.
01:12:42.000 Right now, one of your government secretaries is changing the law.
01:12:46.000 So apparently, NGOs have an easier time sponsoring refugee resettlement.
01:12:52.000 But experts say.
01:12:53.000 The numbers are too small to deter channel crossings because the only way you can deter a channel crossing is, of course, to just wave more people in by other means.
01:13:01.000 You couldn't just stop them.
01:13:02.000 Yeah, it feels like we're reaching some sort of breaking point, Rahim.
01:13:07.000 And do you think we'll reach the breaking point of Britain first or the breaking point of this politically?
01:13:13.000 Can we actually get re migration as a policy that the people who we've waved in these past five years need to go back?
01:13:21.000 Yeah, well, that is obviously going to happen under a reform government, um, you know, and and and that is the most likely party.
01:13:28.000 That can beat the Labour Party at the next election.
01:13:31.000 That's what all the data will show.
01:13:33.000 The Labour Party being the governing left wing party that's doing all of this, but it was, listen, it started with the Conservative Party, which is why reform as an entity even exists.
01:13:44.000 That is a commitment.
01:13:45.000 They have a commitment to deploy the Navy into the Channel to stop these boats coming over in the first instance, and also the mass deportation of anybody that has arrived unlawfully, illegally, or that have sham asylum claims, sham welfare claims, you know, all of these people.
01:14:02.000 If you can't speak the language, you're out.
01:14:04.000 It's done.
01:14:05.000 It's over.
01:14:06.000 Now, the British public have to want to vote that into place.
01:14:09.000 And we don't have a general election necessarily until 2029, but it could come earlier, could come in 2029.
01:14:18.000 But let me tell you something having been here two weeks, spending a lot of time with Nigel Farage and the reform team, there is no doubt in my mind it's about to get very aggressive.
01:14:29.000 Raheem Kassam, editor in chief of the National Pulse.
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01:14:43.000 Raheem Kassam, God bless you, man.
01:14:44.000 Stay safe over there and get Nigel over the finish line.
01:14:47.000 Thank you.
01:14:48.000 Will do.
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