The Charlie Kirk Show - October 31, 2026


From the Archive: Charlie Debates a Student on Open Borders

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00:00:03.000 My name is Charlie Kirk.
00:00:05.000 I run the largest pro American student organization in the country fighting for the future of our republic.
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00:01:17.000 I have a couple points that I want to talk about in illegal immigration.
00:01:23.000 Is it okay if I say all of them with no interruption?
00:01:26.000 Okay, cool. 1.00
00:01:27.000 So, first, illegal immigrants power our economy. 0.96
00:01:31.000 They're 50% of U.S. farm workers harvesting the food on our tables and fill 70% of construction jobs in states like Texas. 0.99
00:01:38.000 They pay $13 billion annually in taxes, including $2 billion to Social Security that they can't claim.
00:01:44.000 Deporting them would slash agricultural output by $60 billion and raise food prices by 6%. 0.90
00:01:50.000 Why gut our farms and wallets when these workers fuel our prosperity?
00:01:54.000 That's my first point. 0.99
00:01:56.000 Second point, they strengthen our communities with lower crime rates. 0.98
00:01:59.000 So in Texas, undocumented immigrants have a 26% lower percent homicide conviction rate, which is 2.2 per 100,000 versus 3 for native born citizens.
00:02:12.000 Nationally, immigrants are incarcerated at half the rate of native born, where it's 0.85% versus 1.71%.
00:02:21.000 That's according to Bureau of Justice statistics from 2019.
00:02:25.000 So, if safety is your goal, why deport people who make our streets safer?
00:02:29.000 This is my third point.
00:02:32.000 Mass deportation tears apart American families.
00:02:34.000 Over 4.4 million U.S. citizens' children have an undocumented parent, and in Texas, one in seven kids lives in a mixed status household.
00:02:43.000 Okay, this is my fourth point.
00:02:46.000 Deportation is a fiscal nightmare.
00:02:48.000 Removing 11 million people would cost $315 to $400 billion, more than the entire Homeland Security budget, and shrink our GDP by $1.7 trillion over 10 years.
00:03:01.000 And this is my last point. 0.99
00:03:04.000 Our immigration system is broken, pushing people to cross illegally.
00:03:09.000 Visa waits Mexicans can exceed 20 years, and the asylum blockage is 1.3 million cases, with hearings four to six years out. 0.60
00:03:18.000 Okay.
00:03:19.000 You done?
00:03:19.000 That's pretty much it.
00:03:20.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:03:21.000 All right, so without looking at the phone, look at me.
00:03:23.000 What should the penalty be for breaking into America?
00:03:26.000 I think there should be a system where it's more merit based.
00:03:28.000 So if this person.
00:03:29.000 No penalty.
00:03:29.000 So what is the penalty?
00:03:30.000 So what should happen to you?
00:03:32.000 It's not a felony.
00:03:33.000 It's a misdemeanor.
00:03:34.000 No, it is.
00:03:34.000 That's not true.
00:03:34.000 It's 8 USC 1312.
00:03:35.000 You can look it up right now.
00:03:36.000 It's a felony if it's done twice.
00:03:38.000 If you try to go back.
00:03:39.000 That is correct.
00:03:39.000 That is not correct.
00:03:40.000 I Googled it, dude.
00:03:41.000 To illegally go across the southern border with the well intent to come into harbor yourself into the interior of the United States, the violation of 8 USC 1312, which is a felony in the federal criminal code.
00:03:50.000 Now, it can be enforced as a misdemeanor or it can be upwards to five years in prison.
00:03:53.000 Now, I want to know since it's a felony, law on the books, 8 USC 1312, what should the penalty be?
00:03:59.000 Well, in my opinion, these kinds of laws are usually.
00:04:07.000 What do you call it?
00:04:11.000 They're.
00:04:13.000 Sorry.
00:04:16.000 Usually the.
00:04:24.000 Sorry.
00:04:24.000 Can I chuck my phone real quick?
00:04:26.000 I apologize.
00:04:30.000 Can you repeat the question?
00:04:32.000 Sorry. 0.54
00:04:33.000 What should the penalty be for someone that breaks or comes into America illegally? 0.67
00:04:39.000 What should the penalty be?
00:04:40.000 I think there should be a merit system where the people. 0.92
00:04:43.000 Okay, the penalty?
00:04:44.000 All right, let's go back to that.
00:04:44.000 That's not the answer.
00:04:45.000 It's a very simple moral and legal question.
00:04:47.000 Okay. 0.60
00:04:48.000 What should the penalty be if you come into America illegally?
00:04:52.000 Okay, so since it's a misdemeanor, not a felony, misdemeanor is a misdemeanor.
00:04:55.000 I just told you it's not.
00:04:56.000 You can look up on your chat GPT what is 8 USC 1312?
00:05:02.000 No, I know.
00:05:02.000 I've already looked it up.
00:05:03.000 Yes, which is a.
00:05:05.000 When it's your second time crossing the border illegally, then it becomes a felony.
00:05:09.000 It can be, and it is enforced as a felony, and it usually is done as a misdemeanor citation because no one has the stones to do 20 million felony applications.
00:05:22.000 So I just want to ask what should the penalty be then for someone that comes into this country illegally?
00:05:32.000 Usually, there's three ways that go about this when there's a penalty.
00:05:36.000 There's either like a fine, or there's some kind of like public service that this person does, or you send them back.
00:05:43.000 Oh, send them back.
00:05:44.000 I agree.
00:05:44.000 That's all we should do.
00:05:45.000 Okay, okay.
00:05:48.000 So, this is interesting.
00:05:49.000 So, one of the statistics that I read said that illegal immigrants don't cause as much, like, they don't break the law as often as people who are native born.
00:06:01.000 That is a statistic. 1.00
00:06:02.000 But they're all criminals. 1.00
00:06:03.000 They're all criminals. 0.98
00:06:05.000 Okay, sure, by law. 0.98
00:06:06.000 By law.
00:06:07.000 No, by law, of course.
00:06:08.000 Of course, they are.
00:06:08.000 So, if they commit less crime and they're all criminals, by definition, they all have broken the law by being here.
00:06:16.000 And they break the law every day by staying here because you're actually not allowed to stay here either.
00:06:20.000 Do you know that?
00:06:21.000 So, every day you're here, you're actually continually breaking the law.
00:06:24.000 You can't break in or harbor.
00:06:26.000 That's what the federal law says.
00:06:27.000 So, by breaking in, it's not just the only law they broke.
00:06:30.000 Every second you remain here, you're also breaking the law.
00:06:33.000 So, that statistic is invalidated by just them breathing here, they're breaking the law.
00:06:37.000 No, of course not.
00:06:37.000 Of course not.
00:06:38.000 So, of course, it makes sense for them when they're here, they're breaking the law because they're illegal immigrants, obviously. 1.00
00:06:42.000 Obviously. 1.00
00:06:42.000 But once they're, okay, yeah, of course. 1.00
00:06:44.000 So, once they're here, once they are here, what kind of harm are they actually doing?
00:06:48.000 When you look at the numbers, it just.
00:06:49.000 A lot.
00:06:50.000 No, no, that's not true.
00:06:50.000 Black wages have gone down.
00:06:52.000 Yes, okay. 0.68
00:06:52.000 In Texas, DUIs have gone up dramatically. 0.68
00:06:54.000 Try not to interrupt, bro.
00:06:56.000 Okay, hold on.
00:06:56.000 So, I'm interjecting, and I let you go uninterrupted with your whole soliloquy, right?
00:07:01.000 Yeah, thank you.
00:07:02.000 So, let me just, let me ask you a question now.
00:07:05.000 Okay.
00:07:05.000 So, if it is correct, That illegal aliens commit less crimes, which of course is not correct.
00:07:11.000 That is correct. 0.96
00:07:12.000 Look it up.
00:07:12.000 In Texas, they made a study in 2018.
00:07:14.000 26% are lower.
00:07:15.000 It's any crime.
00:07:16.000 It's just not correct.
00:07:17.000 But I'm not going to debate that.
00:07:19.000 I just proved it at its face because they commit a crime by being here every day.
00:07:23.000 That is a crime.
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00:08:50.000 Okay, once they are here, what kind of crimes are they committing?
00:08:52.000 Which is okay, well, they're 26%.
00:08:55.000 Do you know the name Lake and Riley?
00:08:58.000 No, educate me.
00:08:59.000 Oh, you don't?
00:09:00.000 No, no, no.
00:09:01.000 Do you know, wow.
00:09:03.000 Do you know the name Rachel Morin?
00:09:06.000 No, I don't.
00:09:07.000 Wow.
00:09:08.000 Educate me.
00:09:09.000 So, Lake and Riley was a girl at the University of Georgia.
00:09:12.000 There was a peeping tom, illegal alien, that was deported five times prior, and Biden kept on letting them back in. 0.87
00:09:18.000 He hunted her down, raped her, sodomized her, and murdered her on a hiking trail at the University of Georgia. 0.83
00:09:23.000 Okay, so the whole person doesn't represent all immigrants. 0.90
00:09:25.000 Hold on a second. 0.85
00:09:25.000 Every person who is killed by an illegal alien is one that should not happen. 0.85
00:09:29.000 Every single one, of course, and also the ones that are native born, and so that's the point is that it's not a matter of the rate.
00:09:36.000 The rate, even if I accept your premise, which is incorrect, the rate is irrelevant.
00:09:41.000 The number is what's relevant.
00:09:43.000 There should be zero illegal aliens, there should be zero Americans being killed by illegals.
00:09:47.000 Not to mention, there's six other problems with the illegal aliens they steal social security numbers, they depress wages, they are heavily involved. 0.59
00:09:54.000 By the way, not to mention, a lot of people that cross on the southern border are also smuggling girls, weapons, and drugs alongside the southern border. 0.85
00:10:01.000 When they come, it's the largest slavery operation in American history that many illegal aliens helped make possible on the southern border.
00:10:08.000 And I guess the final question I'll have is Should a government serve its citizens first and foremost?
00:10:15.000 Yeah, of course.
00:10:16.000 Well, okay, there's been many people who are very political leaders who have said that this place is built off of immigrants.
00:10:24.000 Oh, is it?
00:10:24.000 Well, hold on, let's think about that.
00:10:25.000 First of all, it's legal, not illegal.
00:10:28.000 But was America founded by immigrants or settlers?
00:10:31.000 Settlers. 0.99
00:10:32.000 That's not an immigrant. 1.00
00:10:33.000 Yeah, yeah, okay. 1.00
00:10:34.000 And that's not my point.
00:10:35.000 My point is that people. 0.96
00:10:36.000 You just brought up the nation built by immigrants. 1.00
00:10:38.000 Yeah, but. 1.00
00:10:39.000 We're actually wrong.
00:10:40.000 Because the political leaders have said that this place is built from immigrants.
00:10:43.000 Yeah, and they're wrong.
00:10:44.000 They're wrong.
00:10:44.000 Political leaders are wrong.
00:10:46.000 George W. Bush is wrong.
00:10:47.000 All these political leaders who have built America's economy.
00:10:49.000 Yes, by the way, the first person to say that was.
00:10:51.000 How is that wrong? 1.00
00:10:51.000 When illegal immigrants make. 1.00
00:10:53.000 I just. 0.99
00:10:54.000 They grow the economy.
00:10:55.000 Statistically speaking, studies.
00:10:57.000 Allow me to build it out for you.
00:10:59.000 Sure.
00:10:59.000 Immigrants have helped at times in American history, but we are first and foremost a nation founded by settlers.
00:11:04.000 Immigrants come to a country already built.
00:11:06.000 Settlers come to a barren place and build something new. 1.00
00:11:08.000 This land was barren when people came. 0.96
00:11:11.000 In the 1840s gold rush, this was not an easy place to live.
00:11:14.000 California was not exactly industrialized.
00:11:17.000 There were not immigrants coming west to California.
00:11:19.000 Those were settlers building a new place around Western values.
00:11:23.000 Finally, I would just ask the question do you see a moral distinction between a legal immigrant and an illegal immigrant? 0.81
00:11:30.000 Well, the argument is that they're cutting in line. 0.83
00:11:32.000 Their argument is that they're cutting in line in the 20 year process that it would take for someone to be.
00:11:36.000 To cross the border.
00:11:37.000 It's not 20.
00:11:38.000 At most, it's 20.
00:11:39.000 At most, it's 20.
00:11:39.000 Right now, there's around 1.2 million people who are currently waiting that would take six to seven years for a hearing.
00:11:45.000 And by the way, no one has a right to come to this country, just to be clear. 0.97
00:11:48.000 Let me stay on track of what I was going to say.
00:11:52.000 People who come here usually, almost all the time when they come here, they benefit society.
00:11:58.000 They benefit society.
00:11:59.000 There's studies that have done this.
00:12:01.000 Not necessarily.
00:12:02.000 Okay, not necessarily, but overall in general.
00:12:05.000 But not in general.
00:12:06.000 I fundamentally disagree with that.
00:12:07.000 You can't disagree with a fact.
00:12:09.000 Hold on.
00:12:09.000 Do you think Ilhan Omar has enriched the United States of America?
00:12:14.000 I don't know who that is.
00:12:15.000 Do you think Rashida Tlaib?
00:12:17.000 Uh huh.
00:12:18.000 I mean, I could go through person by person by person.
00:12:19.000 I'm sorry.
00:12:20.000 I don't know these people. 0.99
00:12:20.000 Are these people who have, like, are illegal immigrants that have caused harm? 0.99
00:12:23.000 Yeah, again, if you don't know, I don't mean to pick on you. 0.84
00:12:25.000 It's fine.
00:12:26.000 But I guess the final question is do you have any concern that there are too many people coming into this country and we're a nation of strangers, not a nation of neighbors? 0.82
00:12:36.000 If the people who are coming are creating America, making it more growing, like the economy is growing, then what harm is that doing? 0.80
00:12:42.000 Especially if the people who are coming are growing. 0.89
00:12:43.000 We're growing in an economy, though, aren't we?
00:12:44.000 We're a culture.
00:12:45.000 We're a language.
00:12:46.000 Yeah, of course.
00:12:46.000 Okay, so let's talk about that front.
00:12:48.000 When they come here, they don't have any kind of.
00:12:50.000 They're not committing more crimes than the people who are already here.
00:12:53.000 We've already dispelled that.
00:12:55.000 But you can't just tell us in history about it.
00:12:58.000 Do you think there's anything wrong that a majority of young people in California speak Spanish, not English?
00:13:03.000 Wait, sorry, can you see the difference?
00:13:04.000 Do you think there's anything wrong or troubling to the fact that a majority of people under the age of 30 here in this state speak Spanish, not English?
00:13:11.000 Is there a problem with that?
00:13:12.000 Well, yeah, everyone should be able to have an ability to communicate with the rest of the crowd.
00:13:17.000 So I don't know what the big issue of that is.
00:13:19.000 See, I think it's a huge problem when we have a nation where you can't communicate with your fellow youth.
00:13:23.000 Okay, simple solution teach them how to speak English.
00:13:26.000 What is your problem?
00:13:26.000 Yeah, and our schools don't do that, actually.
00:13:28.000 And also, have a better solution. 1.00
00:13:30.000 Don't import a bunch of people that don't speak English.
00:13:32.000 You mean importing people who actually grow the economy?
00:13:37.000 I reject your premise.
00:13:38.000 That's not a premise.
00:13:39.000 That's a study that's been done.
00:13:41.000 Do you know what a premise is?
00:13:42.000 I don't actually care as much about economic growth because we're one nation under GDP.
00:13:47.000 We're not one nation under GDP.
00:13:49.000 We're a nation under God.
00:13:50.000 And when we lose social cohesion and you import a bunch of people that don't share our values, that don't necessarily always assimilate, that's a major and serious problem.
00:14:00.000 And we are a people, first and foremost, with a creed. 0.97
00:14:02.000 And that creed is falling apart.
00:14:04.000 Mass migration has not helped that creed. 0.98
00:14:06.000 Yes, they might buy more trinkets. 0.95
00:14:08.000 They might help depress wages. 0.99
00:14:10.000 Mass migration, of course, can help. 0.68
00:14:11.000 All good things, all great things for America.
00:14:13.000 Well, they help major corporations, but you know what they also do?
00:14:16.000 They keep down the wages of working people. 0.97
00:14:18.000 If you are a plumber, yes, of course, if you think about it, if you're a plumber, electrician, or a welder, and you have to compete against someone from Nicaragua who's willing to do it for five bucks less an hour, that depresses the wages of the American citizen. 0.98
00:14:29.000 Right. 0.92
00:14:29.000 Yeah, so there's been studies that have done that also counteract that. 0.92
00:14:33.000 Illegal immigrants. 1.00
00:14:34.000 Well, let's use our reason. 1.00
00:14:36.000 No, let's use our reason.
00:14:37.000 Let's use our reason.
00:14:38.000 How about our reason?
00:14:39.000 So, we've had mass migration for 20 years.
00:14:41.000 Have wages gone up?
00:14:45.000 I don't know.
00:14:46.000 No, they haven't, actually.
00:14:47.000 So, forget your studies.
00:14:49.000 For 10 years, we've had 30 million people come into America.
00:14:53.000 Wages have gone down dramatically. 0.99
00:14:55.000 Maybe there's a reason why.
00:14:57.000 Okay.
00:14:59.000 Okay.
00:15:00.000 So, what I encourage you to do, just because there's a study that confirms, you should use your reason and look actually at self evident truths.
00:15:08.000 Be like, huh, does that make sense?
00:15:10.000 Can you name a statistic?
00:15:10.000 Statistics are self evident.
00:15:12.000 Well, not always.
00:15:12.000 Statistics are very misleading.
00:15:14.000 Yes.
00:15:15.000 Like, for example, I could say, Did you know that 600 people a year die because of seatbelts?
00:15:20.000 Well, that's a misleading statistic because over 100,000 lives are saved by seatbelts.
00:15:24.000 That's an incomplete statistic.
00:15:25.000 Okay, so that's a gray area.
00:15:28.000 So, where's the gray area where people are talking about where 26% of illegal immigrants who come here commit less crimes than native born?
00:15:34.000 How many times have you been over this?
00:15:35.000 That's just not correct.
00:15:36.000 That is correct.
00:15:38.000 That is correct.
00:15:38.000 Every single crime.
00:15:39.000 It doesn't matter how many times. 0.84
00:15:40.000 This is a study that was done in Texas, the most diverse.
00:15:43.000 Again, second most diverse state.
00:15:44.000 Every crime an illegal commits is one that should never have happened.
00:15:48.000 It is a period.
00:15:49.000 They should not be here.
00:15:50.000 So, I don't care about the rate.
00:15:51.000 The rate is irrelevant.
00:15:52.000 So, let me just ask one final question.
00:15:54.000 The rate is relevant.
00:15:55.000 Someone broke into the country and cut in line.
00:15:57.000 What should happen to them?
00:15:59.000 Well, they're given, ideally, there's a system.
00:16:02.000 Ideally, there's a system that's merit based where these people then become part of the citizen.
00:16:07.000 Like, they become a legal citizen.
00:16:08.000 Yeah, I mean, we have clarity but not agreement. 1.00
00:16:10.000 I say deport them all back to their country of origin and put Americans first. 1.00
00:16:14.000 That's not an appropriate solution when the American people voted for it, and it is appropriate. 1.00
00:16:19.000 It isn't appropriate because most of the people that do come here illegally contribute positively to society. 1.00
00:16:24.000 Not again, dude. 1.00
00:16:25.000 Statistically, I agree.
00:16:27.000 Everything backs this.
00:16:28.000 You're not listening to anything I'm saying that's fine. 0.60
00:16:30.000 They take jobs from Americans.
00:16:31.000 They depress wages. 0.93
00:16:33.000 They steal social security numbers.
00:16:34.000 They commit a crime every single day that they're here.
00:16:36.000 They flood our public schools.
00:16:38.000 They flood our social services.
00:16:39.000 They flood our hospitals.
00:16:41.000 They are a burden on the taxpayer. 1.00
00:16:42.000 They should go back and make their own country great again and apply and become a legal immigrant if they want to live here. 1.00
00:16:48.000 Thank you very much. 0.99
00:16:49.000 Thank you.
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