The Charlie Kirk Show - May 16, 2026


From the Archive: Charlie vs Students on the College Scam


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College is a scam. It's a glorified credentialing exercise. It doesn't teach you anything other than how to get a piece of paper so you can get a job. You don't have to go to college to learn how to code. You can learn to code in 6 months and earn $180,000 a year.

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00:00:03.000 My name is Charlie Kirk.
00:00:05.000 I run the largest pro-American student organization in the country fighting for the future of our republic.
00:00:11.000 My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth.
00:00:14.000 If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're going to end up miserable.
00:00:19.000 But if the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful.
00:00:24.000 College is a scam, everybody.
00:00:26.000 You've got to stop sending your kids to college.
00:00:27.000 You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible.
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00:01:17.000 I saw some people with a shirt that says, School, college is a scam.
00:01:22.000 It's quite the statement.
00:01:24.000 And could you elaborate a little bit more on that?
00:01:26.000 Do you believe college is a scam?
00:01:28.000 Yeah, half this audience, if you guys get a job, will end up getting a job that doesn't require a college degree.
00:01:33.000 Okay.
00:01:33.000 What about the others?
00:01:35.000 Then, so.
00:01:36.000 We get a job that requires a college degree.
00:01:39.000 So, yeah, so any business that has a 50% rate of a customer being scammed will be shut down by the federal government for disenfranchising their customers.
00:01:47.000 You went to Chili's, like, hey, 50% chance that our fries are going to give you food poisoning.
00:01:51.000 So, if you look at college more than just getting a job, more as educating the population, would you say that's a scam?
00:01:58.000 Well, it depends on what you think college is and what it's become.
00:02:01.000 Secondly, 41% of people that enter college don't graduate, the dropout rate's insanely high.
00:02:06.000 That's true.
00:02:06.000 Third, I mean, what exactly is being taught here?
00:02:08.000 It's a great question.
00:02:10.000 I mean, are you learning about the beauty of Western civilization?
00:02:12.000 Reading the Federalist Papers of Hamilton and Madison and Jay, and do you get a positive view of America or do you spend time on postmodernism of Michel Foucault and Jacques Derrida and Jean Stefanik and Derek Bell?
00:02:23.000 I'd say more networking.
00:02:25.000 Oh, networking?
00:02:26.000 Yeah.
00:02:26.000 Okay, so.
00:02:27.000 Wait, before we go dive deep into it, what's your definition of a scam?
00:02:31.000 Where a serious proportion of your customers are not given the value proposition that they pay for education, right?
00:02:38.000 Which they're not getting, yeah.
00:02:40.000 You're saying, so therefore.
00:02:41.000 Well, that's the question.
00:02:42.000 You come here to get educated, you guys are going from the wrong thing.
00:02:44.000 This is just a glorified credentialing exercise.
00:02:46.000 Yeah.
00:02:47.000 And that's what you're paying for, therefore it's not education.
00:02:49.000 So it's not education.
00:02:50.000 You're just paying for a piece of paper so you can get a job.
00:02:52.000 And education.
00:02:53.000 I mean.
00:02:53.000 Oh, is it education?
00:02:55.000 It is education, sorry.
00:02:58.000 What does that mean to you?
00:03:01.000 Resources, learning how to work, learning how to move around a professional workforce.
00:03:12.000 You need to go to college to learn that?
00:03:13.000 Yes, yes, I'd say so.
00:03:15.000 I think you're being scammed, man.
00:03:17.000 Take it from someone who didn't go to college, you don't need any of that stuff.
00:03:20.000 Yeah.
00:03:21.000 Would you say a doctor would need a college degree?
00:03:22.000 Of course, but the vast majority of kids here aren't studying to become a doctor.
00:03:26.000 How many engineers are in here?
00:03:28.000 Yeah, okay, so how many people that are studying social or liberal sciences?
00:03:32.000 Social sciences.
00:03:33.000 Yeah, fair amount.
00:03:34.000 Okay, okay.
00:03:35.000 It's a personal choice, therefore.
00:03:36.000 The vast majority of kids that go to college are social sciences, psychology, communications.
00:03:41.000 About only 18 to 20% are studying engineering.
00:03:43.000 And you say they shouldn't go to college.
00:03:45.000 Well, it all depends.
00:03:46.000 Again, it depends on what you're studying, why you're there.
00:03:49.000 But this idea that engineering, you need a four year degree, you could also just learn to code in six months.
00:03:53.000 And work for Salesforce and earn $180,000 a year.
00:03:56.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:03:57.000 Yes, it is true.
00:03:58.000 Coding's hard, Charlie.
00:04:00.000 You have to go to college to learn to code?
00:04:02.000 Okay, that's my point.
00:04:04.000 I'm not saying it's easy, you just need to go to college.
00:04:05.000 Secondly, what does a manager of a Walmart supercenter make a year?
00:04:09.000 Anyone know?
00:04:10.000 It's $400,000 a year.
00:04:12.000 $400,000?
00:04:13.000 Yeah, you guys should just go become a manager of a Walmart.
00:04:15.000 It doesn't require a college degree.
00:04:17.000 What does the average plumber make in Scottsdale, Arizona?
00:04:20.000 $115,000 a year.
00:04:22.000 What does the average HVAC technician make in Henderson, Nevada?
00:04:25.000 $75,000 a year.
00:04:26.000 But those don't require college degrees.
00:04:28.000 There are 11 million job openings in this country right now that don't require college degrees.
00:04:33.000 We are oversupplying college.
00:04:36.000 But, yeah, you're here taking advantage of college and college students.
00:04:41.000 Am I taking advantage?
00:04:42.000 Is that what I'm doing?
00:04:43.000 You're taking advantage of the space, of taking advantage of the students, not in a way of intellectually taking advantage.
00:04:51.000 It's like going to a place to tell people you're being scammed.
00:04:53.000 If you call that taking advantage, then so be it.
00:04:56.000 Yeah, I mean, you're taking advantage as you're taking my time, you're taking everyone's time, and you're volunteering your time too.
00:05:02.000 I didn't force you.
00:05:03.000 Okay, sorry.
00:05:05.000 You're taking our time.
00:05:07.000 Fair enough, I do this also in other places than campuses too.
00:05:10.000 Yeah, no, but then you're here and then you're saying college is a scam.
00:05:13.000 It is.
00:05:14.000 Half of you guys will end up getting a job where your entire college debt burden means nothing.
00:05:19.000 You will get a job that does not require a college degree at all.
00:05:22.000 You're four years wasted.
00:05:23.000 You shouldn't have come here in the first place.
00:05:25.000 Half. 0.99
00:05:26.000 Well, I disagree with you.
00:05:28.000 All right, well, that's fair.
00:05:29.000 I hope it's worth it.
00:05:30.000 It's a wonderful day.
00:05:31.000 All right, thank you.
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00:06:43.000 You dropped out of college and your highest community college.
00:06:48.000 Sorry, your Harper College experience.
00:06:50.000 I apologize.
00:06:50.000 I barely was smart enough to make it through community college.
00:06:52.000 Okay, so.
00:06:53.000 Barely made it through high school.
00:06:54.000 Your highest degree level is an honorary doctorate degree from Liberty University.
00:06:58.000 That's true.
00:06:59.000 I do have an honorary PhD.
00:07:01.000 Yeah.
00:07:01.000 So essentially, what are your qualifications for arguing that college is a scam or really having any economical knowledge at all when likely the vast majority of the students here know more than you about economics as a whole?
00:07:17.000 Okay, so.
00:07:18.000 No, hold on.
00:07:18.000 It's okay, guys.
00:07:19.000 It's okay.
00:07:19.000 Let him go.
00:07:20.000 Let him go.
00:07:22.000 Who is Milton Friedman?
00:07:23.000 Who is Milton Friedman?
00:07:24.000 I have no idea, and it's not important to this conversation.
00:07:26.000 Who is Ludwig von Mises?
00:07:28.000 These are all probably economists, and the same thing.
00:07:31.000 Who is John Maynard Keynes?
00:07:32.000 Okay, obviously I know who Keynes is.
00:07:33.000 Oh, obviously, yeah.
00:07:34.000 He's the most famous economist of all time.
00:07:36.000 You don't know Milton Friedman?
00:07:38.000 I mean, that's an economist.
00:07:39.000 Okay, how about Murray Rothbard?
00:07:41.000 That's another economist.
00:07:42.000 F.A. Hayek?
00:07:43.000 I don't know who that is.
00:07:45.000 Well, you just came here and insulted my intelligence.
00:07:47.000 You're right, I barely made it through community college because I was too busy, I don't know, starting a national youth movement.
00:07:52.000 With hundreds of thousands of members.
00:07:54.000 Hey, hold on, though.
00:07:54.000 Hold on, Employing hundreds of people, raising hundreds of millions of dollars, having a top 10 most popular podcast, and reaching tens of millions of people online every day.
00:08:06.000 But you're also calling all of your constituents idiots by saying they participate in a scam. 0.99
00:08:11.000 They're shirts right there. 1.00
00:08:12.000 I'm calling the institution a scam.
00:08:15.000 I never insulted the intelligence.
00:08:17.000 I just had 10 people come up and we had warm conversations.
00:08:21.000 So you asked, What are my qualifications?
00:08:23.000 I'm a job creator, entrepreneur, autodidact.
00:08:26.000 Do you know what that word means?
00:08:28.000 Yeah, self taught.
00:08:29.000 You know, you should probably learn that word if you're going to come up and insult other people's intelligence.
00:08:33.000 Hey.
00:08:33.000 So, autodidacticism is what Leonardo da Vinci was.
00:08:37.000 You don't have to go to college to be wise.
00:08:39.000 You don't have to go to college to be intelligent.
00:08:41.000 I read 100 books a year.
00:08:43.000 I visit over 150 colleges.
00:08:44.000 I'm not saying you're unintelligent.
00:08:46.000 I'm just saying you lack qualifications.
00:08:48.000 Well, are you a New York Times bestseller?
00:08:50.000 Of course not.
00:08:50.000 I'm in college.
00:08:51.000 Got it.
00:08:51.000 So, I'm just trying.
00:08:52.000 What are my qualifications?
00:08:54.000 I have published books, read lots of books, dialogued a lot of people, and instead of asking what my qualifications are, yet you insist on the number seven.
00:09:00.000 Can you name one of them ever seven?
00:09:01.000 Hold on.
00:09:02.000 Name one thing I'm wrong about.
00:09:03.000 You literally just now incorrectly cited the difference between socialism and communism.
00:09:09.000 How so?
00:09:11.000 You claimed that Russia was socialist.
00:09:13.000 Russia was never socialist.
00:09:14.000 The Soviet Union was socialist.
00:09:15.000 No, it was a communist nation.
00:09:16.000 There is a significant difference between communism and communism.
00:09:18.000 Why did Lenin say that socialism is the gateway to communism and he was self described socialist in his private treaties and documents in the Russian Revolution?
00:09:25.000 Lenin was overtaken by Stalin.
00:09:27.000 Hold on a second.
00:09:28.000 No, Lenin died and then Stalin was his successor.
00:09:31.000 Yes.
00:09:31.000 But Lenin himself said, quote, That socialism is the introductory phase to communism.
00:09:36.000 Did he not say that?
00:09:37.000 So then, the vast majority of people, when they're referring to communist Russia, are referring to Stalin's rule over Russia.
00:09:43.000 That was a communist rule that turned into a fascist rule later on.
00:09:46.000 Okay, so, but what thinker was deified in Soviet Russia?
00:09:51.000 What thinker was deified?
00:09:53.000 Yes.
00:09:53.000 Marx.
00:09:54.000 Oh, and what book did Marx write?
00:09:56.000 Yes, he wrote Capital, and he also wrote the Communist Manifesto.
00:10:00.000 So, who was his co author?
00:10:01.000 Who was co author?
00:10:03.000 Yeah, Angles. 0.94
00:10:04.000 Good.
00:10:04.000 I'm glad college is really paying off for you.
00:10:06.000 Hey.
00:10:06.000 So, no, but it's okay.
00:10:09.000 It's fine.
00:10:09.000 He comes up here and insults my intelligence.
00:10:10.000 What are your qualifications?
00:10:12.000 Doesn't even know the co author of the Communist Manifesto or Das Kapital.
00:10:15.000 But no, let me just ask.
00:10:16.000 Again, again, but does my lack of knowledge on that mean that I have no knowledge?
00:10:19.000 Again, is that something that.
00:10:20.000 He came up here and insulted me.
00:10:21.000 And you came up here, guns a blazing, man.
00:10:24.000 And let me just ask again, what did I say that was wrong?
00:10:27.000 I said that under the generally agreed upon definition of communism and socialism, which are interchangeable terms, one is a more harsh degree of the other.
00:10:36.000 Is that the elimination of the family, the elimination of private property, and the deprivation of basic human rights such as right to speech, right to assembly, and right to worship?
00:10:45.000 How is that not a good definition of communism and socialism? 0.54
00:10:49.000 That explains fascism better. 0.52
00:10:52.000 Well, but in the Communist Manifesto, Marx said, We are here to destroy the nuclear family and eradicate the family because it was the original oppressive, tyrannical structure.
00:11:02.000 He said religion is the opiate of the masses and that private property must be eradicated.
00:11:06.000 I have just now documented all three of those with evidence. 0.99
00:11:09.000 Back to original source documents.
00:11:11.000 And then in practice, Russia did all those three things when they were the Soviet Union.
00:11:15.000 So, where am I wrong?
00:11:16.000 But then at the same time, if you claim that those are all negative things, then why do you practice certain things in the doctrines that you just stated?
00:11:23.000 I'm not trying to take people's stuff away.
00:11:25.000 I want people to have bigger families, and I want churches to remain open.
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00:12:49.000 Yeah, but the thing is, so our main no, but your main, your biggest thing, your biggest point that everyone here is for is that you're a potential white supremacist.
00:12:58.000 So, what evidence do you have that I'm a racist?
00:13:02.000 I was just literally watching a video of you talking about whiteness as a whole, talking about whiteness as a concept, okay?
00:13:09.000 And you were trying to explain how white privilege doesn't exist.
00:13:12.000 Correct, it doesn't.
00:13:13.000 You are a white man, how do you know?
00:13:16.000 Because I have eyes.
00:13:18.000 Because you have eyes.
00:13:19.000 That's the description. 0.97
00:13:20.000 So, what can a black person do that I can't do in America? 0.96
00:13:24.000 Or what can I do a black person can't do? 0.97
00:13:26.000 Let's think of some history right here. 0.86
00:13:27.000 Let's go to the history of redlining.
00:13:29.000 I don't need a history lesson.
00:13:29.000 No, you're talking about white privilege.
00:13:31.000 You do need a history lining.
00:13:32.000 Clearly, you need history.
00:13:33.000 I know your talking points better than you do, and I've read all the literature that you have.
00:13:36.000 I've probably forgotten more about the literature.
00:13:38.000 S3 affects the present day as well, and you know that's true.
00:13:41.000 If you went to college, you would know.
00:13:42.000 Well, hold on a second.
00:13:43.000 So then, why are you wearing the college as a scam shirt?
00:13:45.000 Drop out.
00:13:46.000 Well, because you could.
00:13:48.000 It's because you don't believe your own beliefs, and that's what I'm saying.
00:13:50.000 Well, you can admit something's a scam and still get through it.
00:13:52.000 That's why he's wearing it.
00:13:54.000 But then, why?
00:13:55.000 You could feel like you're getting ripped off by an airline and still want to get to the U.S.
00:13:57.000 But that's not what we're talking about anymore.
00:13:59.000 You could.
00:13:59.000 You're like, I'm getting ripped off by a $1,000 ticket, but you still get on the airplane.
00:14:03.000 It doesn't make you a hypocrite.
00:14:04.000 It means that the people are. 0.58
00:14:06.000 Ripping you off, and a lot of you are getting ripped off. 0.51
00:14:07.000 But no, so as far as white privilege, just without the history lesson of, you know, Jim Crow, segregation, imperialism, colonialism, slavery, all the stuff that I know that you're going to say. 0.91
00:14:17.000 But just concretely, in America today, what can a white person do that a black person can't do? 0.70
00:14:21.000 Black applicants to jobs are 50% less likely to get jobs with a black sounding name. 0.94
00:14:28.000 That's not even close to being true. 0.96
00:14:29.000 That is a literal.
00:14:30.000 In fact, it's the opposite.
00:14:33.000 I'm not going to argue your lived experience.
00:14:36.000 I'm not going to.
00:14:37.000 No.
00:14:38.000 No. 1.00
00:14:39.000 See, now you have to listen to him under your rules because a black person is going to say you're wrong. 1.00
00:14:43.000 I am, he can say I'm wrong. 1.00
00:14:46.000 Come on up to the mic.
00:14:47.000 I know I've read your instructions.
00:14:50.000 My name is Keeman Dixon.
00:14:51.000 I have a really black name.
00:14:51.000 Please tell me how 50% of my internships have been denied when I've worked for Senator Mike Lee, Mayor Trent Sachs, Speaker Mike Schultz.
00:14:59.000 Hold on.
00:15:00.000 I've worked for a congressman, Burgess Owens.
00:15:02.000 I've actually worked on his campaign, I've worked on the campaigns of John Husband Jr.
00:15:06.000 Please tell me how my black experience and my black name has not given me.
00:15:10.000 Go ahead. 0.82
00:15:11.000 So, you create a company that's like close to being a fascist, and then, like, how am I?
00:15:21.000 Let's go through this.
00:15:22.000 How am I a fascist?
00:15:25.000 Dude, like, you.
00:15:26.000 Can you name one thing I believe that's fascist?
00:15:29.000 You believe that, like, you aren't.
00:15:36.000 But I'm such a bad fascist, I let the people who disagree and open mic to talk.
00:15:40.000 To me for two hours uninterrupted. 0.99
00:15:41.000 Okay, I'm an awful fascist.
00:15:44.000 I'm more like a free speech liberal in the 1970s, not a fascist. 0.78
00:15:47.000 But I just want to say, Turning Point USA is an evil company that was funded by thousands of fracking companies, and that's just.
00:15:57.000 No, it's not thousands, but we do have some frackers that give us money.
00:16:01.000 Yeah, and then all it is is making the rich from fascism to fracking.
00:16:06.000 That's all it is.
00:16:07.000 That's all it is.
00:16:08.000 Okay, again, I'm happy to have a debate.
00:16:11.000 I can see you're getting kind of fired up.
00:16:12.000 I'm sorry.
00:16:13.000 But why are we evil?
00:16:14.000 Like, we're having a nice discussion.
00:16:16.000 All of a sudden, you're calling me because I'm evil.
00:16:18.000 Because it seems like you just want.
00:16:19.000 The rich get even more rich.
00:16:22.000 We haven't talked about the rich at all.
00:16:24.000 I mean, so you don't even know my positions on this stuff at all.
00:16:29.000 The wealthiest people absent Elon Musk are all on the left Jeff Bezos, George Soros, Mark Beninhoff, Mark Zuckerberg, Lorraine Kyle Jobs.
00:16:36.000 On the left, yes.
00:16:38.000 Can you name one tech CEO outside of Elon Musk that is a conservative?
00:16:43.000 I personally think.
00:16:45.000 Let me think.
00:16:48.000 Peter Thiel?
00:16:49.000 Yeah, that's one.
00:16:51.000 That's one.
00:16:53.000 Larry Page?
00:16:54.000 Google on the left, worth $120 billion.
00:16:57.000 Sergey Brin, Google, $130 billion on the left.
00:17:00.000 Lorraine Bob Jobs, Mackenzie Bezos, Jeff Bezos.
00:17:02.000 If they're on the left, what has they done that was like quote unquote to do the left stuff?
00:17:08.000 Well, okay, so Larry Page gives money to left wing NGOs all the time.
00:17:12.000 Like, if you're on the left, I don't think you will ever be this rich.
00:17:16.000 Well, they are.
00:17:17.000 You know why?
00:17:17.000 Because they're not.
00:17:19.000 No, because they're not.
00:17:20.000 The left is a scam. 0.95
00:17:21.000 The left uses people.
00:17:22.000 How is this scam?
00:17:22.000 Let me tell you why.
00:17:23.000 It's a good question, actually.
00:17:24.000 The left uses people like you that think.
00:17:26.000 That, oh, we're going to fight the rich while they protect their oligarchy.
00:17:29.000 While you guys have to keep on working hard and never own anything, when we conservatives are the ones that actually want to restore the American middle class and bring jobs back to this college.
00:17:37.000 Let me finish.
00:17:38.000 Let me finish. 0.81
00:17:40.000 The left uses people like you every day.
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00:19:22.000 Who is funding?
00:19:23.000 Dude, I have never seen a leftist organization come to campus spreading their propagandas.
00:19:29.000 Well, because the whole university is a leftist organization.
00:19:32.000 So it's not liberal.
00:19:35.000 There is a clear cut difference between a leftist.
00:19:37.000 And a liberal.
00:19:38.000 Please make that clear.
00:19:38.000 You're coming after this in a good way because every major, powerful, wealthy person in the country, over $100 billion in net worth, with the exception of one person, Elon Musk, is on the cultural left and gives money to the left.
00:19:51.000 And you guys give them a free pass because you think that we're fascists when in reality we're the ones that are actually fighting to destroy the oligarchy the most.
00:20:00.000 All right, last question.
00:20:04.000 Last point, last question.
00:20:06.000 So you do want to fight for the American middle class in that.
00:20:10.000 Yes, okay.
00:20:11.000 How does freer to market help with the middle class?
00:20:15.000 Well, again, I want precision in free markets, but I. How does free markets support the middle class?
00:20:23.000 Again, I'm not puritanical, but I think that generally more choices are a good thing. 0.99
00:20:28.000 I think that generally supporting entrepreneurs is positive, but I think that mass immigration is really bad for American workers. 0.94
00:20:34.000 There's no mass immigration. 0.99
00:20:36.000 Well, first of all, how many people are. 0.97
00:20:39.000 Wow.
00:20:40.000 Well, you're right.
00:20:41.000 There is mass invasion.
00:20:43.000 But how many people are coming across the southern border every day?
00:20:47.000 I don't know.
00:20:49.000 I'm actually generally curious.
00:20:50.000 Can you guess?
00:20:51.000 Okay.
00:20:53.000 On what time frame?
00:20:55.000 Every day?
00:20:55.000 Every day?
00:20:58.000 500?
00:20:59.000 Yeah.
00:21:00.000 At its low point, it's at 10,000 right now.
00:21:01.000 It was 15,000 last month.
00:21:03.000 So what is that annualized?
00:21:04.000 Let's play that out.
00:21:06.000 A lot.
00:21:06.000 Yeah, that's a lot.
00:21:06.000 Yeah.
00:21:07.000 That's mass immigration, right?
00:21:08.000 How many green cards do we give out every year? 0.94
00:21:13.000 Probably a lot.
00:21:14.000 Yeah, a lot.
00:21:14.000 About 1.2 million.
00:21:16.000 What's wrong with giving out green cards?
00:21:17.000 Nothing wrong.
00:21:17.000 No, you said there's no mass migration.
00:21:19.000 So I'm just trying to tell you.
00:21:20.000 We do have mass migration, right?
00:21:21.000 We have 3 million on the southern border, and then we have a million green cards, right?
00:21:26.000 That's 4 million a year, right?
00:21:27.000 Which is basically bigger than most U.S. states.
00:21:30.000 Now, everything comes with a cost. 0.70
00:21:33.000 When you have mass migration, you're going to get lower wages. 0.98
00:21:36.000 But that means you're going to disenfranchise American workers.
00:21:38.000 Are you studying computer science?
00:21:39.000 Yeah, I am.
00:21:40.000 Okay, so you're an American born, I'm guessing, American raised?
00:21:43.000 I don't want to assume.
00:21:44.000 I wasn't, but.
00:21:45.000 Okay.
00:21:45.000 I moved to the U.S.
00:21:46.000 Okay, well.
00:21:47.000 You're an American now, I guess.
00:21:48.000 I don't know.
00:21:48.000 Maybe I am.
00:21:49.000 Student visa?
00:21:50.000 Okay.
00:21:50.000 You're going to now have to compete.
00:21:53.000 You're kind of proving my point, but that's a separate issue.
00:21:55.000 You're now going to have to compete against foreign labor for your computer science jobs. 0.54
00:21:59.000 I think we have a moral obligation to American born workers to give them preference and priority and restrict the labor supply so that our computer science majors can have higher wages, not to have suppressed wages so some tech CEO can bring in a bunch of Indians and suppress their wages. 0.64
00:22:18.000 Personally, I just think that if you came to America, And then receive a green card, I think you get to work however you want. 0.56
00:22:27.000 Okay, I think that American born citizenship.
00:22:29.000 And then there shouldn't be a priority because they are American citizens.
00:22:32.000 Well, that's what we're different.
00:22:34.000 I actually think you must have a priority to your own citizens or else you don't have a government.
00:22:37.000 You have something else.
00:22:39.000 If you don't have a priority to your own people, I don't know what you have.
00:22:42.000 You have a colony, not a country.
00:22:43.000 You're just a big economy.
00:22:46.000 And that's fine.
00:22:46.000 If that's your position, by the way, your position is held by the ruling elite, where I think that we should have a country, not just a colony, where.
00:22:53.000 The American born citizens should be given preference over foreigners.
00:22:58.000 Nothing against foreigners.
00:22:59.000 I think they're nice people, but the Americans should be given first preference.
00:23:02.000 And by the way, any sane country believes that. 0.53
00:23:04.000 We're like the only country in the world that says, and certain European countries, come on in and take whatever you want.
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