The Charlie Kirk Show - December 18, 2024


Gay Conservatives and Jew-Hating Liberals: More Charlie at the University of Wisconsin


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Learn English with Donald Trump! President Donald Trump speaks at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. He speaks about his vision for the future of the Middle East, his views on the Iran hostage situation, and what he thinks about the current state of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

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00:02:47.000 How do you deal with the current situation in Israel?
00:02:49.000 Boy, that's a great question.
00:02:50.000 You've got to try to get peace.
00:02:52.000 You've got to try to get the hostages out.
00:02:55.000 I'm very sympathetically pro-Israel.
00:02:58.000 I have some disagreements with Netanyahu on some stuff.
00:02:59.000 In fact, I've picked some fights with the Israeli government on some stuff.
00:03:02.000 But I also have no patience for anti-Semitism on either side.
00:03:06.000 I just don't.
00:03:06.000 I think it's disgusting and it's wrong.
00:03:08.000 There's not a good solution.
00:03:10.000 The only solution I could see, to be perfectly honest with you, is to get Egypt and Jordan to actually do their part to take the people of Gaza, but they don't want them. 0.98
00:03:19.000 And so you have to use American power and American hegemony to basically say, hey, Jordan, you guys are going to take a couple million refugees.
00:03:27.000 Egypt, you're going to take a couple million refugees.
00:03:29.000 Other than that, there really isn't a solution because you have two sides that are at irreconcilable odds right now.
00:03:34.000 But you know what the issue is?
00:03:36.000 When Donald Trump was president, we had more peace between Israel and its neighbors than any time in any of your lifetimes.
00:03:42.000 And so Donald Trump had peace in the Middle East, and he will deliver peace in the Middle East once again.
00:03:47.000 Can I have a hat also?
00:03:48.000 Yes, you can.
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00:03:49.000 Do you want me to sign it?
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00:03:53.000 Disagreements welcome.
00:03:56.000 Hey, Charlie.
00:03:57.000 I'm Levi.
00:03:59.000 I was formerly a Democrat, but I'm a Jewish student here.
00:04:03.000 And after October 7th, I sort of switched over.
00:04:06.000 I was wondering if you think that's like a trend among Jewish voters and if that will have a big impact on the election, especially with like Kamala not picking Josh Shapiro.
00:04:16.000 I wonder if that sort of shows her stance on it.
00:04:18.000 Well, first of all, welcome to the Republican Party.
00:04:21.000 You are welcome here.
00:04:22.000 And I think it's terrific.
00:04:25.000 Number two, I want to say that you're right.
00:04:29.000 Kamala Harris should have picked Josh Shapiro. 0.99
00:04:31.000 It was the better choice for her ticket.
00:04:32.000 The only reason she did not pick Josh Shapiro is because he's a Jew. 0.99
00:04:37.000 Period.
00:04:37.000 There is no other reason.
00:04:39.000 Yes, I think it is a trend.
00:04:41.000 I think that Jews need to realize the Democrat Party is not a safe place for them at all.
00:04:46.000 That it is at odds with their, first of all, their love of the state of Israel, of which I share.
00:04:52.000 And secondly, and I think thirdly and most importantly, is that the American Jewish community has long had an attachment with the American Democrat Party.
00:05:00.000 You know that's very, very hard to break, right?
00:05:03.000 I hope it does because we as conservatives, Republicans, and Trump supporters welcome Jewish Americans coming into our ranks.
00:05:10.000 Thank you.
00:05:11.000 God bless.
00:05:12.000 Absolutely.
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00:05:15.000 Yes, sir.
00:05:17.000 Hey, Charlie.
00:05:17.000 Yes, sir.
00:05:18.000 So a photo recently surfaced of Tim Walz's family, like, turning on you.
00:05:22.000 Yeah, it was great, right?
00:05:23.000 I want to know what you think about that.
00:05:24.000 No, I think it's great.
00:05:25.000 First of all, the grammar was wrong, because that really bothered me.
00:05:27.000 Did you notice that the grammar was incorrect?
00:05:29.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:05:30.000 I am not a Tim Walz fan at all, but, yeah, if Tim Walz can't even get the support of his own family, it's a big issue.
00:05:37.000 It should show the American people that if your whole family's turning on you, then it's...
00:05:40.000 Yeah, I mean, to be fair, parts of Trump's family have turned against him.
00:05:44.000 But to have that many members of the family was pretty aggressive.
00:05:47.000 Yeah, thank you.
00:05:48.000 You bet.
00:05:49.000 Yes.
00:05:50.000 Yes.
00:05:51.000 Yes, you can.
00:05:52.000 Yes, by the way, young women get priority on the hat because we need more young women Trump supporters. 0.98
00:05:57.000 Yes.
00:05:58.000 Hey, Charlie.
00:05:58.000 Just for context, I'm Persian Jewish.
00:06:01.000 Both my parents are born in Iran.
00:06:02.000 I'm from L.A. Okay.
00:06:05.000 It should die down at some point.
00:06:07.000 You know, it just kind of puts me in a hard situation with my entire family.
00:06:07.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:06:10.000 Like, I'm kind of torn between two parts of my heritage.
00:06:14.000 I just wanted to know what you think the war in the Middle East is going to turn into if Trump is elected versus if Kamala is elected.
00:06:19.000 Yeah.
00:06:21.000 If Kamala is elected, you could see World War III. We're good to go.
00:06:43.000 I have a heart for the people of Gaza that are suffering right now.
00:06:47.000 And it's a war that many of them did not invite.
00:06:50.000 And so I hope that we can have some sort of reconciliation and some sort of peace settlement that satisfies both sides.
00:06:55.000 Awesome, man.
00:06:56.000 Thank you so much.
00:06:57.000 Thank you.
00:06:57.000 God bless.
00:06:58.000 Hey.
00:06:59.000 All right.
00:06:59.000 Context for this question.
00:07:00.000 I'm 18. This is my first time voting.
00:07:02.000 I mean, I registered as an independent, so I'm not really a huge fan of either party right now.
00:07:06.000 But as I consider Trump, I just have, like, one issue.
00:07:08.000 I'm wondering how you reconcile that, because I know you support him.
00:07:11.000 So, you know, he was found...
00:07:13.000 Yeah, he was found civilly liable for rape.
00:07:15.000 He was convicted, multiple counts of fraud.
00:07:18.000 And I think we can both agree that objectively speaking, rape and fraud are morally wrong, like objectively.
00:07:23.000 So I'm just wondering how you reconcile that as a Trump voter.
00:07:25.000 I mean, do you know any of the details of the case?
00:07:29.000 Well, what are you referring to?
00:07:30.000 Well, yeah, first, the rape case was a civil case, not a criminal case, right?
00:07:33.000 Yeah, so, but...
00:07:33.000 Yeah, I know, civilly liable.
00:07:36.000 He didn't do it.
00:07:37.000 I don't know what else to say.
00:07:38.000 I mean, the evidence was so insane.
00:07:40.000 It was so ridiculous.
00:07:41.000 It was a woman that said, oh yeah, Donald Trump put me in a closet in Tiffany's and raped me. 0.71
00:07:46.000 I mean, it was so ridiculous.
00:07:49.000 And of course, it was a jury that was highly politically motivated and charged.
00:07:54.000 And 34 counts of fraud, you don't see any.
00:07:54.000 Sure.
00:07:57.000 But hold on, just so we understand, 34 counts of fraud.
00:08:00.000 I encourage you to read the indictment.
00:08:02.000 Can you tell me what the crime was, though?
00:08:04.000 I believe some of them had to do with the Hashmani case.
00:08:07.000 But no, but what was he covering?
00:08:07.000 Right.
00:08:09.000 No one knows because they made up a crime, right?
00:08:09.000 I'm not sure.
00:08:12.000 Because they said that he was trying to conceal a crime.
00:08:16.000 In the pursuit of the crime.
00:08:17.000 I can get into the details of this, but let me just ask you a question.
00:08:20.000 Do you think that there is anything to the argument?
00:08:23.000 Right, falsifying business records.
00:08:24.000 Is that a felony?
00:08:25.000 I mean, it's fraud, yeah.
00:08:27.000 Oh, is it a felony?
00:08:28.000 He upgraded it for the first time in New York's state history as a felony.
00:08:28.000 No, it's not.
00:08:31.000 Why?
00:08:32.000 Because his name is Donald Trump.
00:08:33.000 That's why.
00:08:34.000 Sure, but you would agree that falsifying business records, that sort of activity is just morally wrong in general, right?
00:08:38.000 Well, falsifying business records, I mean, if any of you runs a small business and you put $35 instead of $32.
00:08:44.000 Trump's a small business owner.
00:08:44.000 He's a...
00:08:45.000 Okay, first of all, if you are a small business owner and you do that, you put $35 out of $36, they could get you for falsifying business records.
00:08:51.000 And the 34 counts, each one of the counts was on each check that he wrote.
00:08:55.000 So it's not as if there was this big, broad conspiracy.
00:08:58.000 But let's just be as clear as we can.
00:09:01.000 Let me ask you a question, actually.
00:09:02.000 Do you think that there's anything to the argument that Donald Trump is being unfairly targeted because his name is Donald Trump?
00:09:06.000 I think Yeah, there's some merit to that.
00:09:08.000 Yes, because if anyone gets under that kind of examination and everything you do in your life, every transaction, every conversation, that they're going to be able to find something that they can get on you.
00:09:08.000 Okay.
00:09:18.000 Just one last thing.
00:09:19.000 No, but do you think that there's some merit to that argument?
00:09:19.000 I would argue, though...
00:09:21.000 I would say that seeing as he was the president, I think he deserves extra scrutiny, right?
00:09:21.000 I do.
00:09:21.000 Okay, good.
00:09:25.000 Do you think that any other politician has received the scrutiny he's received?
00:09:30.000 Yeah, I guess that's available, yeah.
00:09:32.000 Yeah, I mean, and again, I can go into the details of why I think that is politically charged, politically motivated, but it is at some point we had a tradition in this country that if you are a former president, we're not going to throw the examination of justice against you because it's just really unhealthy and damaging to the country, right?
00:09:49.000 I mean, even those of us that thought Hillary Clinton committed a lot of crimes, we were okay with her not getting investigated at some point because we thought it would damage the country.
00:09:57.000 At some point, because we were like, okay, she definitely committed crimes, but if they're not going after her because we don't want to try to further sever the country, with Donald Trump indicted in four different jurisdictions on four different things, it's very clear that they're trying to interfere with the presidential election.
00:10:11.000 They being the Justice Department.
00:10:13.000 Yeah, and the Democrat Party, right?
00:10:14.000 And this is what third world dictatorships do, right? 0.97
00:10:18.000 I mean, in Russia, we got so mad when they put the opposition leader in jail and he died in jail because he wasn't able to speak out.
00:10:26.000 Right.
00:10:26.000 And so without getting into the details of the case, of which I think they are meritless and, you know, a lot of legal scholars agree, I think we need to take a step back and say, is it real?
00:10:36.000 Is it healthy long term for us as a country to be able to put the ascendant political opposition leader in jail when he's very popular and beat?
00:10:44.000 He's not in jail, though.
00:10:46.000 Well, he's being sentenced in two weeks, potentially.
00:10:49.000 And just to be clear...
00:10:50.000 I would also agree he probably should not be in jail, but I think the...
00:10:52.000 Oh, no, I know, but he's facing 700 years in prison, right?
00:10:56.000 And so...
00:10:57.000 Just so we're clear.
00:10:58.000 Very unlikely that he's actually going to be put in jail.
00:11:00.000 Well, hold on.
00:11:01.000 But that's, you might be, I think you're right.
00:11:03.000 But that's not the argument, though.
00:11:05.000 Because the justice system is supposed to be blind, regardless of who you are.
00:11:09.000 And there's something deeply disturbing when someone is about to, he's building a movement, you might not like him at all, but he's building a movement.
00:11:17.000 A lot of Americans like him.
00:11:18.000 And a lot of people show up to his events.
00:11:20.000 And a lot of people believe in him.
00:11:22.000 And like, no, we're going to indict you.
00:11:24.000 Like, what does that say for democracy, right?
00:11:26.000 You know what I mean?
00:11:26.000 Fair enough.
00:11:27.000 Like, what does that say for the everyday person who thinks he's the right choice?
00:11:30.000 And if you think he should go in jail and those people shouldn't vote for him, then you think those people are stupid.
00:11:36.000 Not you, but like, if that's the perspective, and they say, oh, we know better than the welder who likes Trump, or we know better than the college kid that likes Trump.
00:11:45.000 And so for the health and the vitality of the country, the Democrats should have resisted the temptation of indicting him and putting him in prison.
00:11:53.000 Instead, he's had to beat it.
00:11:54.000 He's beat some of these cases, thankfully.
00:11:58.000 And on the civil case, right?
00:12:01.000 On the fraud case, he repaid all of his debts, just so we're clear.
00:12:04.000 So who's the victim?
00:12:06.000 Right?
00:12:07.000 There's no victim when you repay all your debts.
00:12:08.000 They're saying, oh, the state of New York is the victim.
00:12:11.000 What I'm getting at is there's a great quote by Cicero, who is the one-year Roman counsel.
00:12:15.000 He said, the more laws, the less justice.
00:12:18.000 And if you are in charge, you have all these laws.
00:12:21.000 You show me the man, I'll show you the crime.
00:12:23.000 And it's a tragedy because with Donald Trump, they fear his movement so much and they fear that he'll become president.
00:12:29.000 They're willing to do something that they've never done before, which is try to put a former president in jail.
00:12:34.000 Is that persuasive at all to you?
00:12:36.000 Not really, but I got your argument.
00:12:38.000 I definitely understand your argument.
00:12:39.000 Okay, thanks.
00:12:40.000 Alright, thank you.
00:12:41.000 Alright, next question.
00:12:44.000 Yep.
00:12:44.000 Disagreements, please.
00:12:45.000 I just got a really quick question.
00:12:46.000 In a world of misinformation that we live in, where do you go to find your facts and data?
00:12:50.000 Mostly the Charlie Kirk show is where I get most of my information.
00:12:52.000 Okay, gotcha.
00:12:53.000 Gotcha.
00:12:53.000 No, I love Tucker's show, the Tucker Carlson podcast.
00:12:58.000 I like citizenfreepress.com.
00:13:00.000 RealClearPolitics.com is great.
00:13:01.000 I try to go to original source documents.
00:13:04.000 I try to watch the least amount of television news as possible.
00:13:08.000 I try to read my news more than I watch my news.
00:13:11.000 Listening and reading your news is far better way than watching.
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00:14:25.000 Yes, ma'am.
00:14:27.000 So, can I just have your, can you just reclaim, like, your opinion on affirmative action, please?
00:14:31.000 Yeah, I think affirmative action is racist, wrong, and against, and it's unconstitutional.
00:14:36.000 So, it's immoral.
00:14:37.000 Right.
00:14:38.000 And should be unconstitutional.
00:14:39.000 At first, I thought, like, I was 100% a believer in affirmative action, you know?
00:14:43.000 I was like, okay, you know?
00:14:44.000 Like, okay, I'm gonna have a...
00:14:47.000 Because I'm Latina, so I was like, okay, I'm going to get in to this college.
00:14:51.000 You're doing great.
00:14:52.000 And so then I was like, wait, this is completely wrong.
00:14:55.000 I had a coming to Jesus moment of like, this is wrong.
00:14:58.000 This is horrible.
00:14:59.000 Because I'm being put on this pedestal that, I mean, other people around me, like my high school teachers have done, they said, oh, you don't need to try that hard.
00:15:08.000 I mean, you're going to get into the college you want because you're a person of color.
00:15:11.000 I was like, are you kidding me?
00:15:13.000 I was like, that's crazy.
00:15:14.000 But also, isn't it kind of insulting to you?
00:15:16.000 It's very insulting, yeah.
00:15:17.000 It treats you like you're stupid, right?
00:15:19.000 Exactly, exactly.
00:15:20.000 It's 100% insulting.
00:15:21.000 And so, but I have another little sister who's also a person of color in high school right now.
00:15:25.000 And I just wanted your advice for how she can, like... 0.98
00:15:28.000 I mean, look, my advice to her is, as sinister as it sounds, like, use it, right?
00:15:34.000 I mean, she works really hard, plus being a person of color, she could go to Princeton, right?
00:15:40.000 And here's the reality.
00:15:41.000 There is a white male next to you right now.
00:15:43.000 He has to get much higher test scores than your sister to go into a graduate school.
00:15:48.000 Yeah.
00:15:48.000 We both agree.
00:15:49.000 That's evil.
00:15:50.000 That's wrong.
00:15:50.000 What are we doing?
00:15:51.000 That's racism.
00:15:52.000 And also, again, it acts as if he being a white male is inherently smarter than you.
00:15:58.000 And that's, of course, not the case.
00:15:59.000 We don't know who's smarter.
00:16:01.000 In fact, that's the whole point of the American Project is that we shouldn't be able to judge just based on your skin color.
00:16:06.000 My advice for your sister is try to fight against affirmative action, but in the short term, use it because the laws and the system is currently configured to help her. 1.00
00:16:14.000 Yes.
00:16:15.000 All right.
00:16:15.000 Yeah.
00:16:16.000 Perfect.
00:16:16.000 Are you voting for Trump?
00:16:17.000 I love it.
00:16:17.000 Oh, 100%.
00:16:18.000 Good for you.
00:16:18.000 There we go.
00:16:20.000 You want a hat?
00:16:22.000 All right.
00:16:22.000 Yes.
00:16:23.000 Next question.
00:16:24.000 Charlie, I just wanted to thank you for coming to UW-Madison.
00:16:27.000 I appreciate it.
00:16:28.000 I just wanted a quick ask if I could have a Trump hat, please.
00:16:32.000 Yes, but only if you're voting.
00:16:33.000 Are you registering and you're voting?
00:16:34.000 I am.
00:16:34.000 Both.
00:16:35.000 Great.
00:16:35.000 All right.
00:16:36.000 Good.
00:16:36.000 Only if you register and you vote.
00:16:37.000 Who disagrees?
00:16:37.000 Yes.
00:16:38.000 Yeah.
00:16:40.000 I just wanted your thoughts on like Citizens United, like Super PACs and all that kind of stuff.
00:16:45.000 Not healthy for the country, but probably the right constitutional decision.
00:16:48.000 Okay.
00:16:49.000 So if you – that's the issue with the Supreme Court is you can't judge the effects always as much as the interpretation.
00:16:58.000 Yeah.
00:16:58.000 It's because a true justice should judge based on the intent of the law, not just what they think it will do.
00:17:05.000 But I think it's deeply unhealthy that we have billions of dollars flowing through super PACs and we have to see this ridiculous TV advertising all the time.
00:17:12.000 I don't think it's healthy for the country at all.
00:17:15.000 But if you go back to the Supreme Court decision, the reason it was decided the way it was is because it was under speech where they said, well, what if Charlie Kirk writes a book against Kamala Harris?
00:17:26.000 Yeah.
00:17:27.000 Is that considered political speech?
00:17:29.000 And they said yes.
00:17:31.000 So that, right?
00:17:32.000 I mean, I should be able to write a book, right?
00:17:32.000 It's a gray area, isn't it?
00:17:34.000 But they say, no, it's something of value.
00:17:36.000 It's no different than a political advertisement.
00:17:38.000 And so that, so it was the right decision, but a bad outcome for the country.
00:17:42.000 Yeah.
00:17:43.000 I just feel like it poisons our democracy in the context.
00:17:45.000 Again, I don't love the term democracy, even though I use it every so often.
00:17:45.000 Well, yeah.
00:17:49.000 But yes, it poisons our elections.
00:17:50.000 I think that Because we're not a democracy.
00:17:53.000 But yes, for sure.
00:17:53.000 We're a republic.
00:17:54.000 I'm not trying to nitpick.
00:17:55.000 But I think what it does is it makes politicians far more obedient to their donors than people on both sides.
00:18:02.000 And just so we're clear, the Democrat Party, they have hated Citizens United, but now they use it better than Republicans.
00:18:08.000 Democrats raise more money.
00:18:10.000 They have more TV ads.
00:18:11.000 And because they wanted to win, they've now become the party.
00:18:14.000 But both sides use it, though.
00:18:15.000 Well, Democrats raise way more money than Republicans now.
00:18:18.000 But yes, both sides do.
00:18:19.000 Democrats outraise Republicans almost four to one.
00:18:21.000 Okay.
00:18:21.000 Thank you.
00:18:21.000 Thank you very much.
00:18:22.000 Appreciate it.
00:18:23.000 Yes.
00:18:23.000 Question?
00:18:24.000 Hey, the rain cleared up.
00:18:24.000 Disagreements are welcome.
00:18:25.000 So there we go.
00:18:26.000 Hey, Charlie.
00:18:27.000 So my question is, either in the immediate or distant future, can you ever see yourself running for office?
00:18:32.000 No, I'm not running for anything.
00:18:33.000 My number one mission is make Donald Trump go back into the White House in November.
00:18:37.000 That's my number one mission.
00:18:38.000 Sweet.
00:18:38.000 I'm with you.
00:18:39.000 Can I get a hat?
00:18:39.000 I love it.
00:18:40.000 Yes, you can.
00:18:41.000 Only if you promise you wear it.
00:18:42.000 You registered to vote?
00:18:42.000 Yes, sir.
00:18:43.000 In the state of Wisconsin?
00:18:44.000 Yes, sir.
00:18:44.000 All right.
00:18:44.000 Then, yes, you can.
00:18:45.000 Question?
00:18:45.000 Yes.
00:18:46.000 Disagreements are most welcome.
00:18:47.000 Yes.
00:18:48.000 So...
00:18:49.000 I'm a gay conservative, and I just want to kind of ask you, like, what do you have to say for people like me who kind of feel like, I guess, it's kind of hard for gay conservatives because there's not a lot of us, so, like, what do you have to say to other gay people who need to realize, like, they do have a choice, like...
00:19:06.000 Yeah, first of all, welcome to the conservative movement, but I want to be clear, I don't agree with your lifestyle, and I don't think you should introduce yourself just based on your sexual attractions.
00:19:15.000 Because that's not who you are.
00:19:15.000 No, I agree.
00:19:16.000 I like to be thought of as a person.
00:19:18.000 I think you're actually way more interesting based on your sexual tendencies, right?
00:19:18.000 For sure.
00:19:23.000 Yes, I completely agree.
00:19:24.000 So I think we should get away from this idea that your identity is based on your bedroom behavior.
00:19:29.000 You are a complete human being, and I'm sure you treat people well, and you're studying something.
00:19:34.000 So I want to get away with this idea that you're gay anything, right?
00:19:38.000 First, you should say I'm a conservative.
00:19:39.000 I also have same-sex attraction.
00:19:41.000 That's fine.
00:19:41.000 I just think that we have gone a long way in the negative direction in this country, where we act as if the most important part of your identity is...
00:19:49.000 What you do in the bedroom.
00:19:50.000 It doesn't mean that much to me, but if you ask from a perspective as a Christian and conservative, I don't agree with that lifestyle, but politics is about addition and multiplication.
00:19:59.000 I imagine you agree with a lot of what we talk about, right?
00:20:02.000 Strong borders, strong country, and for that, we welcome you to the conservative movement.
00:20:06.000 Thank you.
00:20:07.000 Can I get a hat?
00:20:08.000 Yes, you can.
00:20:08.000 Absolutely.
00:20:09.000 Thank you.
00:20:10.000 Yes, question.
00:20:11.000 I like your shirt a lot.
00:20:13.000 I totally agree with that sentiment.
00:20:14.000 And I think it's a sentiment that came a lot as RFK endorsed Trump.
00:20:18.000 But one of RFK's main campaign issues was being very against the COVID vaccine.
00:20:24.000 And what would you say to Trump voters who are hesitant or concerned about Trump's inability to say that Operation Warp Speed was an utter failure?
00:20:31.000 Well, I think that's a great question.
00:20:33.000 I think that him bringing RFK in is the closest you're going to get.
00:20:39.000 Right?
00:20:39.000 Donald Trump said he'll do stuff differently.
00:20:41.000 RFK was a huge critic of Operation Warp Speed, which, granted, was something we've never seen before, which was that the administrative state took over the entire health apparatus of a country.
00:20:50.000 We never should have locked down this country.
00:20:52.000 We never should have mandated masks.
00:20:54.000 We never should have mandated vaccines.
00:20:55.000 And I think Donald Trump bringing RFK into the fold is the closest thing that we're going to see to making sure it never happens again, because that's really what matters, right?
00:21:03.000 Outside of an apology, Do you think that...
00:21:23.000 Because of the COVID vaccine hesitancy, there's going to be a future hesitancy to other vaccines in the future?
00:21:29.000 Yeah, of course.
00:21:30.000 Absolutely.
00:21:30.000 I mean, to be perfectly honest, I'm very hesitant of the COVID vaccine.
00:21:33.000 And you should be.
00:21:34.000 I mean, look at the track record.
00:21:35.000 Get your ninth booster.
00:21:36.000 It's safe and effective.
00:21:37.000 Yeah, okay, great.
00:21:39.000 So...
00:21:40.000 Yeah, I mean, I think that other, we should question a lot of vaccines, to be honest with you.
00:21:44.000 I mean, why we give babies the hepatitis B vaccine is insane.
00:21:47.000 No one can answer that question.
00:21:48.000 We just do it automatically.
00:21:50.000 The first thing a baby does is they come out of the mother's birth canal. 0.85
00:21:53.000 You put eye ointment on their eyes, unnecessary, unless the mom has gonorrhea. 1.00
00:21:59.000 And then we give the baby a hepatitis B vaccine, unless the mom has a sexually transmitted disease. 1.00
00:22:04.000 It's completely unnecessary.
00:22:06.000 So I think other things should be questioned.
00:22:07.000 There's other vaccines that are great.
00:22:08.000 And those should obviously be celebrated and looked at.
00:22:10.000 But that's a topic that is largely forbidden from public discourse.
00:22:13.000 I just wanted to be clear.
00:22:14.000 I'm still voting for him because Tim Walls is a communist.
00:22:17.000 Good for you.
00:22:18.000 You want a hat?
00:22:18.000 I love one.
00:22:19.000 Okay.
00:22:19.000 Great.
00:22:20.000 Next question.
00:22:20.000 All right.
00:22:20.000 Yes.
00:22:21.000 Thank you.
00:22:21.000 Hi, I just wanted to ask about markets and subsidies and the interest of the American economy.
00:22:27.000 So U.S. automakers are facing a big threat from Chinese companies with electric vehicles that are heavily undercutting vehicle prices.
00:22:36.000 And those vehicles coming from China are also very subsidized.
00:22:42.000 And so just with regard to the heavy tariffs placed on What do you think is the best course of action?
00:22:52.000 What's your opinion?
00:22:53.000 Should the government be involved?
00:22:56.000 Well, yeah, I mean, we should not allow the importing of Chinese electric cars. 0.92
00:23:00.000 I mean, I think we should have much heavier tariffs on Chinese products.
00:23:03.000 I mean, we have a great American electric vehicle manufacturer, Tesla, and that we should, we should, Teslas should all be made here.
00:23:11.000 They make a lot of Teslas in China, unfortunately, but they should be made here.
00:23:13.000 Right.
00:23:14.000 Just as a follow-up, do you think that maybe placing heavy subsidies could kind of...
00:23:18.000 Subsidies or tariffs?
00:23:19.000 Sorry, tariffs.
00:23:20.000 That's correct.
00:23:20.000 Because we do subsidize too, which I'm not in favor of.
00:23:23.000 But the tariffs could be called a subsidy, but they're technically not.
00:23:27.000 Right.
00:23:27.000 Do you think there's a space for some innovation in the American market so they could reduce their prices?
00:23:33.000 Yeah, that's a good question.
00:23:35.000 Probably.
00:23:35.000 But I mean, we've seen the electric vehicle mandate done by Biden and was a complete disaster.
00:23:39.000 The big three auto manufacturers have not been able to compete with Tesla on the electric vehicle front, even with even with a fair amount of low tariffs on Chinese imports.
00:23:48.000 Okay.
00:23:49.000 Thank you.
00:23:49.000 Appreciate it.
00:23:50.000 Thank you.
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00:24:51.000 Disagreements?
00:24:51.000 Question?
00:24:52.000 Yes.
00:24:52.000 Anyone?
00:24:53.000 One and then one.
00:24:54.000 Yes.
00:24:56.000 Yeah, you guys could just work your way through and...
00:24:58.000 Yes, only if you were.
00:24:59.000 You registered to vote?
00:25:01.000 All right.
00:25:02.000 Yes.
00:25:03.000 We have Turning Point Action registering voters here somewhere.
00:25:03.000 Do we have...
00:25:05.000 If you guys are not registered to vote, we'll register to vote.
00:25:08.000 Yes, ma'am.
00:25:09.000 Hi, Charlie.
00:25:11.000 I will.
00:25:11.000 One sec.
00:25:12.000 Yes, ma'am.
00:25:12.000 Yeah, I just have a question kind of based on affirmative action.
00:25:15.000 I'm a computer engineer here at UW-Madison.
00:25:18.000 I'm about to graduate.
00:25:19.000 And there's a lot that I've found through research and just general...
00:25:24.000 I guess my studies.
00:25:25.000 Not only does affirmative action help minorities, people of color, but also women in general.
00:25:31.000 And there's a lot of facets of engineering, the medical system, and other factors that, because of affirmative action, have helped.
00:25:39.000 I'll just go into something.
00:25:41.000 For example, let's say in the medical field, endometriosis, something like that has not been studied in women due to so little women being in the medical field. 0.98
00:25:53.000 Also, for example, like cars.
00:25:56.000 The seatbelt is made especially for the male body.
00:25:59.000 They're only tested with male mannequins, so a lot of women are in risk of dying in car crashes at a higher rate.
00:26:05.000 There's a lot of things that benefit from a diverse group of people, both in engineering and medical fields and education and other facets of the systems.
00:26:16.000 And I was just wondering, without affirmative action, how do you think we can bring these people in to bring a variety of Opinions.
00:26:24.000 Yeah, no, I mean, just have a meritocracy, right?
00:26:26.000 So you have three white men around you.
00:26:28.000 You can see one, two, three.
00:26:30.000 So if one supports affirmative action, it would mean that you would be okay turning to those three men and saying, I deserve the position more than you based on something that doesn't matter.
00:26:40.000 Not necessarily.
00:26:41.000 I feel like that's one facet of it that we're not also paying attention to is that people that are graduating are graduating from the same schools.
00:26:47.000 They're graduating with the same degrees.
00:26:48.000 With lower test scores, though.
00:26:49.000 Much lower.
00:26:50.000 Every study of affirmative action, for example, the Harvard case, showed that it was nearly 40% lower test scores for people of color versus their white male counterparts and Asian counterparts.
00:26:58.000 And so at some point...
00:27:00.000 Is that like, why would that happen?
00:27:03.000 Why?
00:27:03.000 Yeah.
00:27:04.000 What causes that?
00:27:05.000 Do you think it's just because people of color are more stupid?
00:27:08.000 No, of course not.
00:27:09.000 I mean, people of color come from lower socioeconomic backgrounds that don't prioritize education. 0.99
00:27:13.000 So how do we fix those socioeconomic statuses? 0.78
00:27:15.000 That's an interesting point, not should we try to...
00:27:18.000 We penalize white males that are competent to go run our systems and our institutions. 0.99
00:27:22.000 So those are two different things.
00:27:23.000 So what we're doing is our institutions are now becoming less excellent.
00:27:28.000 Our country is not working like it used to because we basically told people that are very qualified and very competent that, sorry, we're not going to put a position for you here.
00:27:37.000 For example, the U.S. Secret Service.
00:27:39.000 Let me just give you one example, okay?
00:27:40.000 We can all agree that protecting a president, whether it's Donald Trump or Kamala Harris, is super important, right?
00:27:45.000 But now the Secret Service has said that we want to have 30% of all our agents be women, which, by the way, they have lower fitness criteria.
00:27:53.000 So they have less pull-ups, less push-ups, slower mile time.
00:27:56.000 But yeah, that's something that's due to like your...
00:27:58.000 Hold on.
00:27:59.000 Exactly.
00:28:00.000 But this is affirmative action, right?
00:28:00.000 Yeah, no, no.
00:28:02.000 And so therefore when...
00:28:04.000 Well, there's like fields.
00:28:05.000 I don't think that's a good...
00:28:06.000 One second, one second.
00:28:07.000 I just don't think that's a good example because like women will never be as strong as men, at least genetically. 1.00
00:28:13.000 So I think it should be something that's more like...
00:28:13.000 That's an interesting question.
00:28:15.000 Will women be as good at engineering as men person for person? 0.93
00:28:21.000 Not necessarily, but...
00:28:23.000 Okay, well then, how is that different than the Secret Service example?
00:28:25.000 Well, the problem is that...
00:28:26.000 Because the male mind is wired differently than the female mind. 0.73
00:28:29.000 By the way, men will never be as good...
00:28:30.000 Hold on, I'll prove it to you.
00:28:32.000 Men will never be as good at counseling or psychology sessions as women. 1.00
00:28:36.000 Men will never be good at nursing or elementary school education as women. 1.00
00:28:40.000 We have certain giftings as our brain is wider a certain way.
00:28:43.000 Women are far better gifted at micro topics. 1.00
00:28:47.000 So individual connection, empathetic type conversations, healing people that are past trauma and wound.
00:28:53.000 Men are much better at macro topics, right?
00:28:56.000 Trying to build a building, put a skyscraper up, trying to talk geopolitics.
00:29:00.000 And I'll prove it to you.
00:29:00.000 When you go and you see five women eating lunch, they're probably talking about micro topics.
00:29:06.000 Conversations they had, relationships, friendships.
00:29:09.000 Men, they're talking about politics, sports, or the stock market.
00:29:12.000 That's not necessarily true.
00:29:13.000 You guys all agree, right?
00:29:13.000 Oh, yes.
00:29:15.000 I mean, there's a reason I'm here.
00:29:17.000 These are bimodal general truths, right? 0.98
00:29:19.000 Of course there's exceptions.
00:29:20.000 It's not a general truth, though.
00:29:22.000 I feel like women have the capability of having political conversations. 1.00
00:29:25.000 Of course they do, but it's not the general wiring or nature of women. 1.00
00:29:29.000 There's no wiring for your brain to like Donald Trump.
00:29:31.000 Like, that's not a real thing.
00:29:32.000 Wait a second.
00:29:34.000 But do you think that men and women are made different in our brains?
00:29:38.000 Certain things, but not necessarily.
00:29:40.000 It doesn't channel you to be a specific thing.
00:29:42.000 Like what things?
00:29:44.000 Well, there's specific wirings to produce certain types of hormones and differences that are genetically different.
00:29:51.000 So you don't think that men are more likely to like contact sports, more likely to enjoy football, UFC, hunting?
00:29:57.000 I think that's because of a societal norm in general.
00:30:00.000 Well, over a lot of time.
00:30:02.000 You're smarter than that.
00:30:02.000 No, come on.
00:30:03.000 That's not true.
00:30:04.000 There's women that play football, so you can't just say that. 1.00
00:30:04.000 Hold on. 1.00
00:30:07.000 And there are men that dress in drag, but those are not the general truth of it.
00:30:14.000 So let me just be clear.
00:30:15.000 You think that there's nothing within the female brain in its constitution that makes young ladies more likely... 1.00
00:30:22.000 I mean, being that I'm an engineer, I don't think so.
00:30:24.000 No.
00:30:25.000 No.
00:30:25.000 Really?
00:30:25.000 Yeah.
00:30:26.000 Yeah, I don't.
00:30:27.000 I mean, I feel like there's...
00:30:29.000 So you think if you pick a random lady here that they'd be just as comfortable sitting and watching a four-hour football game than they were to go get their hair done with their best girlfriends? 1.00
00:30:36.000 Well, I feel like that's kind of diminishing to say, oh, because you're a woman, you will not be able to sit through a four-hour football field. 1.00
00:30:42.000 Is it diminishing to say a man wouldn't want to go get his hair done?
00:30:45.000 No.
00:30:45.000 No, I'm sure you get your hair done, right?
00:30:45.000 No.
00:30:47.000 Not really.
00:30:48.000 It's like 10 minutes in and out, like barbershop.
00:30:50.000 Okay, but you still do it.
00:30:51.000 But the point, again, there are certain things that women will take more seriously. 1.00
00:30:54.000 For example, women will take a lot longer getting ready for the day than men.
00:30:58.000 Right?
00:30:58.000 Why?
00:30:58.000 Yeah.
00:30:59.000 Because we're held to higher standards to look pretty.
00:31:02.000 No, no, no, no.
00:31:03.000 For example, your hair.
00:31:04.000 Super short.
00:31:04.000 How short is your hair?
00:31:05.000 Mine, it's going to take longer to dry.
00:31:07.000 Do you wear makeup?
00:31:08.000 Yeah.
00:31:09.000 Why?
00:31:10.000 Because you want to look pretty and it takes...
00:31:12.000 Yeah, that's not important to me because I'm a man.
00:31:14.000 Oh, right.
00:31:15.000 But who made you feel that way?
00:31:16.000 But there's something in your wiring.
00:31:17.000 But you feel comfortable not wearing makeup because of a certain reason.
00:31:20.000 But you wouldn't feel comfortable wearing makeup?
00:31:22.000 I can not wear makeup.
00:31:23.000 But why do you do it?
00:31:24.000 I mean, like, right now I'm not wearing, like, anything, really.
00:31:27.000 No, I know, but that's the point is that at some point you wear makeup because there's something within your wiring that says, I want to be presentable to the world, and that wiring honestly is, I want to find a mate to have children.
00:31:35.000 I mean, this question was about affirmative action.
00:31:37.000 No, no, no, it's not actually really important because I don't think there's any differences between races, but I think that when it comes to affirmative action, we're saying that there are differences.
00:31:45.000 Right.
00:31:45.000 That we're trying to say that things that don't matter should matter.
00:31:47.000 I don't think race matters.
00:31:49.000 A firm action says race does matter. 0.61
00:31:50.000 What about women also in fields like that? 1.00
00:31:52.000 I think that's even more dangerous, to be honest with you.
00:31:55.000 We're going to say that women should be secret service agents protecting Trump. 1.00
00:31:58.000 Not secret service.
00:31:59.000 I'm talking about medicine, engineering, that type of thing.
00:32:01.000 Okay, so should we try to have the same amount of female to male OBGYNs? 0.99
00:32:01.000 Well, hold on. 0.99
00:32:07.000 I think it should be similar to the amount of the general population.
00:32:12.000 85% of all OBGYNs are female.
00:32:12.000 Hold on.
00:32:15.000 Yeah.
00:32:16.000 So now, should we have parity?
00:32:18.000 I have an OBGYN that's a man.
00:32:20.000 That's not a problem.
00:32:21.000 That's not the point.
00:32:22.000 The point is, should we have parity?
00:32:23.000 I think it should be similar to, like, whatever the...
00:32:26.000 Okay, so you're consistent.
00:32:28.000 So women studying in the OBGYN field will be actively discriminated against, so a man can, because we must have parity. 0.81
00:32:35.000 It's not about people in the OBGYN specifically.
00:32:36.000 It's about people in general.
00:32:38.000 Men were, like, for example, women were not able to vote until, like, less than a hundred years ago, basically, right?
00:32:43.000 What does that have to do with...
00:32:44.000 One second.
00:32:45.000 So because of that, a lot of the laws, a lot of everything that's set in place was made by men, was excluding women, was creating reforms and certain legislations that would specifically support men rather than women because women don't have that ability.
00:33:03.000 Or support society.
00:33:04.000 I don't think it was always about supporting men.
00:33:05.000 Well, for example, what I brought up, endometriosis, the seatbelt accident, all those stuff.
00:33:10.000 Is due because we tend to favor men in specific...
00:33:14.000 I just don't believe that, first of all, because research will go where the money is.
00:33:18.000 And so was there money in endometriosis research?
00:33:21.000 Not much because men don't care. 1.00
00:33:23.000 So maybe it wasn't sexism.
00:33:24.000 Maybe it was a monetary explanation.
00:33:25.000 Well, who has the money in a society?
00:33:28.000 Actually, women control more money than men in the country. 1.00
00:33:30.000 Women weren't able to have bank accounts until less than 100 years ago. 1.00
00:33:34.000 So they can't really build a generational wealth.
00:33:37.000 Do you think it's been a better thing with women's liberation in the last 20, 30 years?
00:33:40.000 Yeah.
00:33:41.000 That's interesting.
00:33:42.000 Do you think women are happier in America today than they were 30 years ago?
00:33:46.000 Yeah.
00:33:47.000 Then why are they the most depressed group in the history of the species?
00:33:51.000 Because we have these, like, legislations that don't allow us to go into certain...
00:33:55.000 Okay, but women are the most suicidal, addicted to antidepressants. 0.99
00:33:58.000 I thought it was men.
00:33:59.000 No, no, no.
00:34:00.000 Women are far more suicidal. 1.00
00:34:01.000 Men are more successful in committing suicide. 0.99
00:34:03.000 Big difference.
00:34:05.000 When men commit suicide, they're much better at it. 1.00
00:34:08.000 Women have far more suicidal ideation than men.
00:34:11.000 But why is it that with women being liberated the last 50 years, women are the most miserable they've ever been? 1.00
00:34:17.000 Like, why is that?
00:34:18.000 I don't think that's because we're allowed to have money now.
00:34:22.000 I'm asking that.
00:34:22.000 No, I'm asking.
00:34:23.000 But it's like more liberation, more college degrees, more birth control, less marriage, less kids.
00:34:27.000 I would argue otherwise.
00:34:27.000 I don't know where you got that data.
00:34:29.000 Everybody agrees that women are super miserable. 1.00
00:34:31.000 Like as far as versus 30 years ago.
00:34:34.000 Well, it could be the fact that because women weren't able to go to like a psychologist or like before. 0.85
00:34:40.000 Or maybe it's because they're not doing the one thing that they want to do, which is to get married and have children.
00:34:47.000 Yeah.
00:34:48.000 She's saying that.
00:34:49.000 No, it's actually opposite.
00:34:50.000 It's saying that women around the world report higher levels of life satisfaction than men, but at the same time report more daily stress.
00:34:58.000 Type in women antidepressant use 2024. It is the highest it has ever been.
00:35:04.000 There's more layers to it than that.
00:35:06.000 You have to look at why are women more likely to go and talk to a psychologist. 1.00
00:35:06.000 It can't just be that. 1.00
00:35:11.000 There's differences in that.
00:35:12.000 I'm just curious.
00:35:14.000 Do you think women are generally happier in 2024 than they were in 1964?
00:35:19.000 Really?
00:35:19.000 I mean, just as a woman of color, I don't think not having rights back then would have been good.
00:35:25.000 What rights did they not have in 1964?
00:35:27.000 They weren't able to get married to a white man. 1.00
00:35:31.000 I'm in an interracial relationship.
00:35:33.000 I'm dating a white man.
00:35:34.000 If I was back then, I would never be with the love of my life.
00:35:37.000 I feel like that's one point.
00:35:38.000 Because you're not allowed to marry black. 1.00
00:35:40.000 Black people are not allowed to marry white people back then.
00:35:43.000 Before 1964. Where?
00:35:43.000 Where?
00:35:46.000 In America.
00:35:47.000 No, that was, like, outlawed in, like, 1918. It wasn't 1919. It was happening still until 1964. Also, banks were, like, specifically not allowing black people to, like, own homes back then.
00:36:01.000 They could just turn them away.
00:36:02.000 Well, first of all, they were able to own homes.
00:36:03.000 You're talking about redlining, which is a completely different thing.
00:36:05.000 Well, red...
00:36:05.000 Like, they were...
00:36:06.000 They could...
00:36:07.000 But no, I'm just...
00:36:07.000 I'm curious, though.
00:36:08.000 At some point...
00:36:10.000 1967?
00:36:11.000 That's when interracial marriage was finally brought, like, here.
00:36:11.000 Yeah.
00:36:14.000 Yes, in the last state, which was where?
00:36:16.000 Okay, but that's crazy still.
00:36:18.000 Like, I would not be able to be with...
00:36:20.000 Yeah.
00:36:20.000 You asked me the question, as a woman, would you be happier back then?
00:36:23.000 No, I wouldn't, because I couldn't be with the love of my wife.
00:36:25.000 I think that's, I think it's shocking.
00:36:27.000 Yeah.
00:36:28.000 We are seeing the most...
00:36:30.000 So things like that is what is important to show.
00:36:32.000 No, it's amazing.
00:36:33.000 If you think women and, like, people are happier today than they were 50 or 60 years ago, It's remarkable.
00:36:39.000 It's just objectively not true.
00:36:40.000 Well, just by that fact that I would be able to marry someone that I love is, I think, a great point.
00:36:44.000 You just said that it was repealed in 67, in one state, by the way.
00:36:48.000 1967?
00:36:49.000 No, that's when it was finally made law.
00:36:52.000 In every state?
00:36:54.000 In every state.
00:36:55.000 I'm pretty sure that's when it was the last one.
00:36:56.000 There's no way that is true.
00:36:57.000 They just looked it up.
00:36:58.000 They just showed me it.
00:36:58.000 There's no way it's true in every state.
00:37:00.000 I don't know what to tell you.
00:37:02.000 That's just what it shows.
00:37:03.000 Well, you can't just say that's not true and just say, oh, like...
00:37:06.000 So you're trying to tell me in the state of Wisconsin you could not interracially marry in 1964?
00:37:09.000 You couldn't.
00:37:10.000 I'm pretty sure in Wisconsin you couldn't.
00:37:13.000 Is that right?
00:37:13.000 I mean, I think that's...
00:37:15.000 Yeah, it's just like that's not even close to being true.
00:37:17.000 Yeah.
00:37:18.000 I'm sure there were some southern states where it might have been true.
00:37:20.000 Well, now we're avoiding it.
00:37:21.000 Yeah, but no.
00:37:22.000 Okay, so affirmative action.
00:37:23.000 Let me ask you a question.
00:37:24.000 What should matter more, race or merit?
00:37:26.000 Never.
00:37:28.000 Oh, okay.
00:37:29.000 So what should matter more, race or merit?
00:37:32.000 I don't think it's based on, like, a little bit of both, yes.
00:37:37.000 Why should race matter?
00:37:38.000 Well, my initial point was that because of not having, like, people, you know, like, you know, of certain races or certain genders, like, be here and working in engineering and stuff like that, we have not been able to, like, research into certain things that would benefit those people.
00:37:54.000 Do you think there's any risk that we might have institutions that aren't as excellent?
00:37:57.000 No.
00:37:59.000 I mean, I don't know like how...
00:38:01.000 So let me play this out and then this will be my last question.
00:38:03.000 If you are boarding an airplane and your pilot introduces herself, she says, I'm a pilot.
00:38:09.000 I'm a black woman.
00:38:10.000 I graduated last in my class, but I'm here because of diversity.
00:38:14.000 How would you feel?
00:38:14.000 She's here because she passed the pilot test.
00:38:17.000 She passed.
00:38:17.000 She went through that schooling.
00:38:18.000 She went through everything.
00:38:19.000 I wouldn't be worried about that.
00:38:21.000 If your heart surgeon showed up and said, hey...
00:38:23.000 You have to have certifications.
00:38:24.000 They won't let you just operate on someone without certifications.
00:38:25.000 As I say, every time affirmative action is employed, standards go down.
00:38:29.000 Every single example.
00:38:31.000 Every single example.
00:38:32.000 From Harvard to the UC system, there is not a single example where affirmative action is employed and standards are not brought down.
00:38:39.000 I wouldn't say that, but...
00:38:40.000 Okay, thank you very much.
00:38:41.000 I just had the question of how would you want to fix that?
00:38:44.000 There's no problem to fix.
00:38:45.000 Pure meritocracy.
00:38:46.000 No, I'm just saying, like, how do you bring people with diverse opinions?
00:38:49.000 Oh, yeah.
00:38:49.000 I mean, like, I don't care that much about...
00:38:51.000 I care about excellence.
00:38:51.000 So, like, women...
00:38:53.000 I don't care about putting women in STEM. I care about being a strong...
00:38:56.000 No, I'm talking about, like, being able to, like, look into those type of things.
00:39:00.000 Like, endometriosis is, like, all this stuff.
00:39:01.000 How do we make that safer for other people?
00:39:03.000 Those are...
00:39:03.000 Without bringing people that care about it.
00:39:05.000 Not that important to me.
00:39:05.000 I want the country we once had, which was the greatest country ever, where we put excellence and we put superior intellect above sensitive racial politics.
00:39:15.000 Not interesting to me.
00:39:17.000 Because it was a bunch of white men that were running the country, and all of a sudden we've decided- I'm not saying that's a bad thing. 0.98
00:39:22.000 I'm just saying that- No, good.
00:39:23.000 That's fine.
00:39:24.000 But when we used to have a country that was based on merit, we were more successful, and we were a better-run country, and we're objectively not now.
00:39:32.000 I'm just saying that in engineering, there's a lot of...
00:39:33.000 We can't even protect a president from getting shot.
00:39:35.000 Yeah, there's a lot of parts in engineering that because we don't have a diverse look of opinions, then we are putting certain people into more danger, like women in cars. 1.00
00:39:44.000 That's one example.
00:39:45.000 Okay, thank you.
00:39:46.000 That's okay.
00:39:47.000 All right.
00:39:48.000 Thanks.
00:39:49.000 You're voting for Trump?
00:39:50.000 No.
00:39:50.000 Yeah, I was going to say.
00:39:51.000 I can't.
00:39:52.000 Yeah, well, you lied to get a hat, and that shows your character.
00:39:55.000 I don't lie.
00:39:55.000 I said I would wear it.
00:39:56.000 You said if you wear it.
00:39:57.000 I said only if you vote, but that's fine.
00:39:58.000 All right, next question.
00:39:59.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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