The Charlie Kirk Show - October 15, 2026


Happy Birthday, Charlie: Vote Early

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00:00:03.000 My name is Charlie Kirk.
00:00:05.000 I run the largest pro American student organization in the country fighting for the future of our republic.
00:00:11.000 My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth.
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00:01:17.000 All right.
00:01:18.000 Welcome, everybody.
00:01:19.000 It is October 14th, 2026.
00:01:23.000 It would have been and should have been the 33rd birthday of our dear friend, Charlie Kirk, and we miss him today.
00:01:32.000 So it's a somber date on the calendar for us, but it's also a reminder to do.
00:01:39.000 All the things that Charlie taught us to do.
00:01:41.000 It's also a reminder to live the life that he told us to live and to be inspired by his example and his legacy.
00:01:49.000 Blake, how are we doing?
00:01:50.000 I'm in New York.
00:01:52.000 The Real America's Voice team is here helping set up a little remote studio for us, but you're back in Phoenix.
00:01:58.000 How are we doing today?
00:01:59.000 We're feeling good, Andrew.
00:02:01.000 A lot of people were sharing, you were passing around that clip where Charlie's saying for his birthday two years ago, What can people do for Charlie's birthday?
00:02:09.000 And he said, Go vote.
00:02:11.000 And I took one of those Charlie clips and I posted yesterday.
00:02:13.000 I said, Go vote early.
00:02:14.000 And then as I posted it, I realized I haven't voted early yet.
00:02:18.000 I am allowed to vote.
00:02:19.000 And I went and I got in my car and I drove and I voted.
00:02:22.000 It is that simple here in Arizona.
00:02:24.000 It's that simple in a lot of the country.
00:02:27.000 If you are able to vote now in your state, if you want to honor Charlie, go vote now in your state.
00:02:34.000 Not tomorrow.
00:02:35.000 Just do it today.
00:02:36.000 Do it today.
00:02:36.000 Takes probably 15, 20 minutes.
00:02:39.000 Get it done.
00:02:40.000 Let's go ahead and play.
00:02:41.000 This is CK, October 14th, 2024, SOT 7.
00:02:46.000 It is go time.
00:02:47.000 Go vote right now.
00:02:48.000 Look, everybody says, Charlie, what can you get me?
00:02:51.000 What can you get for your birthday?
00:02:53.000 I want one thing for my birthday.
00:02:54.000 I want you to go vote right now.
00:02:55.000 That's my birthday gift.
00:02:56.000 Give Charlie Kirk a birthday gift by going out and voting right now.
00:03:00.000 Get in the car, listen to Charlie Kirk's show on the Real America's Voice app, and go vote.
00:03:05.000 Fantastic.
00:03:05.000 Fantastic.
00:03:07.000 So that is a huge way to honor Charlie.
00:03:09.000 I can't think of a better way.
00:03:10.000 It's so simple, right?
00:03:12.000 You know, When we lost Charlie, people were like, What can you do?
00:03:15.000 And we said, Go to church.
00:03:17.000 Go to church, save a seat for somebody else in the pew.
00:03:20.000 And on October 14th, his birthday, every two years, we're going to have an election.
00:03:24.000 And it's just a wonderful way to remember Charlie.
00:03:26.000 He was so singularly laser focused on winning and doing something bigger than yourself for this country.
00:03:33.000 And that is the legacy that he leaves us.
00:03:36.000 It may sound too simple.
00:03:38.000 There's a million things that you can do to honor Charlie, to be more like Charlie.
00:03:42.000 But on October 14th, his words, not ours, Go vote and bring a friend, bring a family member, make a plan to vote, get it done.
00:03:50.000 I actually am in favor, Blake, of making sure that this becomes sort of a drumbeat every election that we have a Charlie birthday on.
00:03:59.000 That this is just a way that I want the grassroots to remember this day and to mark this day on the calendar and say, hey, this is a time where we can do something substantial, something definitive, something real, and participate in the civic process.
00:04:13.000 Do what Charlie asked you to do.
00:04:15.000 So, October 14th, we miss him dearly.
00:04:18.000 He should have been 33 today, which is wild.
00:04:22.000 I started working with Charlie when he was in his early 20s.
00:04:25.000 And so to think of Charlie at 33 is a wild thing in and of itself.
00:04:31.000 But we miss him.
00:04:31.000 We miss him dearly.
00:04:32.000 And there's so much to get to.
00:04:35.000 We are working our tails off in Arizona.
00:04:37.000 And I heard Steve talking about this in the previous hour, Blake.
00:04:42.000 But the mission that Charlie gave us in Arizona is ongoing.
00:04:47.000 He wanted Andy Biggs to be governor more than anything.
00:04:49.000 I will tell you, when we looked at 2026, Andy put his name in the ring and said, Hey, I'm going to run.
00:04:55.000 Charlie said, We're going to back you completely.
00:04:58.000 We believe Andy Biggs is the way that we can turn Arizona into the Florida of the West, the Floridification of the West.
00:05:04.000 Of the West, and we're well on our way.
00:05:07.000 And I will tell you, an internal poll dropped from Katie Hobbs.
00:05:10.000 And now, Blake, we have Barack Obama swooping in, doing his endorsement video for Katie Hobbs.
00:05:16.000 And it's hilarious.
00:05:18.000 He's painting her like she's some rock rib conservative that's tough on crime, tough on the border, tough on fentanyl.
00:05:25.000 None of this is at all true, by the way.
00:05:28.000 But it's telling, and it should give you hope and encouragement that the Democrats are afraid in Arizona that Obama has to swoop in.
00:05:37.000 Paint her like a Republican when she's not.
00:05:39.000 She vetoed all the Republican bills. 1.00
00:05:41.000 She basically had to be dragged, kicking and screaming to do anything on the border, anything on fentanyl. 0.82
00:05:49.000 But that's the way that they're painting her.
00:05:50.000 And so let me just put the stakes here for you.
00:05:53.000 Four point difference, according to Katie Hobbs' internal poll, separating Andy Biggs and Katie Hobbs.
00:05:59.000 And this is what's freaking them out.
00:06:01.000 They know that late breakers and undecideds are going for Andy Biggs two to one.
00:06:05.000 That's right, two to one.
00:06:07.000 For every vote she gets, Andy Biggs is getting two.
00:06:10.000 The state is going to be a base turnout election.
00:06:13.000 And guess what we're doing?
00:06:14.000 We have a 25% larger team on the ground doing get out the vote.
00:06:19.000 So our ballot chasers are on the ground.
00:06:21.000 And our team, we threw everything in the kitchen sink at Arizona in 2024, Blake.
00:06:26.000 This year, our team is 25% bigger.
00:06:29.000 We have a 25% larger field army knocking on doors, chasing ballots, and they know that.
00:06:36.000 Plus, we're coming in, we've got the airwaves swamped, telling the truth about who Katie Hobbs is.
00:06:42.000 So, Arizona is very much in play.
00:06:44.000 And this is the message, everybody.
00:06:46.000 Don't believe the polls.
00:06:48.000 Don't be demoralized.
00:06:49.000 They are an op, they are designed to get you to stay home.
00:06:53.000 And even if there is truth in it at all, guess what?
00:06:55.000 You can be the difference maker.
00:06:57.000 A base turnout election is much different than a general election in the presidentials.
00:07:02.000 Okay, let me explain this to you.
00:07:04.000 And, Blake, I'll throw it to you.
00:07:06.000 In a general presidential election, so in 2024, you're going to have 150, 160, 165 million people come out to vote.
00:07:13.000 In a midterm, you're going to have about 100.
00:07:16.000 Okay, that means the math is completely different.
00:07:19.000 The math is totally different.
00:07:22.000 It means you got to get your base out, you got to get your low props out.
00:07:25.000 All right, so that's why on October 14th, you being the change maker, you being the difference maker, going and voting just like Blake did is all that counts.
00:07:35.000 So you can make a model, you can make a graph, you can make a poll, but you can't make people vote.
00:07:40.000 You can't make your base turn out and vote.
00:07:42.000 And what we're seeing so far in early returns, I'm not going to.
00:07:46.000 We're not doing hopium.
00:07:47.000 We're not doing copium on this show.
00:07:49.000 It's a tough election cycle.
00:07:51.000 But what we're seeing in early returns is not the blue NAMI that everybody on MS Now is forecasting.
00:07:57.000 Blake, your take.
00:07:58.000 First of all, I just want to say thank you to everyone who sent in birthday messages.
00:08:01.000 We've been getting them all morning.
00:08:03.000 Just a lot of people remembering.
00:08:05.000 So thank you to all of you who remember Charlie.
00:08:06.000 But as Andrew was saying, the best way you can remember Charlie is by making those small steps in your life that go with what he wanted.
00:08:14.000 So on this day, when early voting is happening all across the country, you can honor Charlie by voting early.
00:08:21.000 And on top of that, just think of the other ways while we're talking about honoring Charlie, the other ways you can do it.
00:08:27.000 It's always make those small changes in your life because.
00:08:30.000 The example Charlie set for everyone, the reason we're remembering him now and will continue to remember him for many years in the future is because Charlie is a person who he just delivered on all those little things that are all easy to do.
00:08:44.000 They're all easy to do one at a time, but at the same time, that makes it so easy for us to be lazy, push them off another day.
00:08:53.000 And he didn't.
00:08:54.000 He just never did that.
00:08:55.000 And that is why he was so effective.
00:08:57.000 So you should honor him by.
00:09:00.000 Reading a book every single day, reading something, learning something every day, trying to do a small thing to help someone every day, and honoring God.
00:09:07.000 When you go to church each week, are you asking someone else to go with you?
00:09:10.000 Are you encouraging them to do that?
00:09:12.000 All those are little ways you could honor Charlie.
00:09:13.000 So think about those ways you can be honoring Charlie in your life, and you will be more like him, which is what we all want.
00:09:20.000 And the easiest one you can do today, as we've said, is vote early.
00:09:25.000 Get it done.
00:09:25.000 And then no one can text you to annoy you anymore because they get updates now and they don't want to be like him.
00:09:29.000 Well, that's a good point.
00:09:30.000 That's a good point.
00:09:30.000 When you vote early, you actually take your name off the list.
00:09:33.000 We can devote our resources elsewhere.
00:09:34.000 So that's something else you need to keep in mind.
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00:11:07.000 All right, without further ado, we have Ari Fleischer, former White House Press Secretary, and Fleischer Communications, great.
00:11:14.000 Patriot, great friend of the show.
00:11:16.000 Ari, welcome back, my friend.
00:11:18.000 There was a little bit of news yesterday.
00:11:19.000 We have a new White House press secretary.
00:11:21.000 It surprised a lot of people that she went out and did a press briefing, I guess within 24 hours of really being announced the press secretary.
00:11:33.000 The reactions were divided, just put it that way.
00:11:35.000 I actually found her very likable, very personable, very relatable.
00:11:39.000 But what was your take, and did you like this move to have her out front so early?
00:11:44.000 Yeah, look, this is probably one of the world's toughest jobs for anybody to walk into.
00:11:50.000 It is especially tough when you're an outsider walking in midterm into an incumbent president's term.
00:11:56.000 You don't know the players.
00:11:57.000 You don't know the decision makers.
00:11:59.000 You don't know the people you go to to get information.
00:12:01.000 You may know the president.
00:12:03.000 You have a relationship with the president.
00:12:04.000 He likes you.
00:12:06.000 But that doesn't make you an able and articulate spokesperson yet.
00:12:10.000 And so it is really hard to walk in midstream and do that.
00:12:14.000 So we've been introduced to her.
00:12:16.000 It's different in the Trump White House because the president does most of the communicating. 0.89
00:12:20.000 But she's got a steep slope to climb. 0.80
00:12:23.000 To be ready for everything that that press is going to throw at her.
00:12:26.000 Yeah.
00:12:27.000 I mean, it was wild.
00:12:28.000 I don't know.
00:12:29.000 I actually haven't talked to Blake about this.
00:12:30.000 Yeah, go ahead.
00:12:31.000 No, I was just thinking it's like it's a position almost nobody can understand.
00:12:36.000 It's an incredibly, I guess, a lot of places have press flacks, but this is basically the only press flack in America who everything they say will be incredibly heavily scrutinized.
00:12:48.000 Just get us inside the head of a press secretary.
00:12:52.000 What's that prep process like?
00:12:54.000 What are things we might not think about that you need to be thinking about as a press secretary?
00:12:58.000 Well, what's really going on inside the head is it's exploding.
00:13:01.000 I mean, there's just so much that you have to be ready for.
00:13:05.000 Typically, at a briefing, they last 30 to 45 minutes, at least when I was press secretary.
00:13:10.000 You would take 20 to 25 different topics.
00:13:13.000 You know, if there was a crisis, it was my easiest briefing because I knew all the questions were going to be on one topic.
00:13:18.000 If it's a slow news day, I could get questions on Medicare, Social Security, the situation in the Balkans, relations with China, tariffs with Canada, the president's health.
00:13:29.000 I mean, Everything all across the board.
00:13:32.000 So you got to know all that stuff.
00:13:34.000 Otherwise, you're constantly saying, Let me get back to you.
00:13:36.000 And I hate it to say, Let me get back to you.
00:13:39.000 So it requires a learning curve, it requires a runway. 1.00
00:13:42.000 Here's my advice to the new press secretary what she needs to do is, as soon as she's done with this first trip, stop traveling and start learning all the hot buttons around the world and in the American government. 1.00
00:13:58.000 She needs to sit down twice a day for an hour a day, morning and afternoon. 0.92
00:14:03.000 With the top experts at the White House and the National Security Council to go hotspot by hotspot around the economy, around the world, around everything important to the Trump White House.
00:14:14.000 She needs to be in the meetings with the president when she's not doing that, and she should not yet be briefing.
00:14:19.000 She needs to have a proper runway to get up to speed so she can take off and do well. 0.99
00:14:24.000 And that requires intense study. 0.85
00:14:26.000 It is nothing that being an articulate, which she is, cable news spokesperson prepares you for.
00:14:33.000 It is way more depth, way more substance, way more listening and learning, and only then speaking.
00:14:39.000 How much?
00:14:40.000 Just give us a ballpark thing.
00:14:41.000 You mentioned you have to learn so much.
00:14:43.000 How many hours of work and memorization and prep would you say there was for every half hour of press briefing that you'd be doing?
00:14:52.000 Well, for me, remember, I went to work for George W. Bush and moved to Texas and worked on the campaign.
00:14:58.000 So I was with Bush for one year on the campaign.
00:15:00.000 So I knew every position the man took, I knew the nuances, the ins and the outs, and I knew him.
00:15:05.000 And then during the transition, I had a chance to do briefings with the transition White House press corps.
00:15:10.000 So that was practice.
00:15:12.000 And then I stepped into the role as White House press secretary on January 20th.
00:15:15.000 But I always felt I was on top of everything because I knew everything about what the president was doing and why he was doing it.
00:15:21.000 And I knew every policy.
00:15:23.000 It's very different.
00:15:24.000 It's hard to come in.
00:15:25.000 That's what I mean.
00:15:26.000 It's hard to come in from the outside and master everything.
00:15:29.000 Just look at the question she got asked yesterday about is the United States stopped sharing information and intelligence with Ukraine?
00:15:36.000 How would she know that?
00:15:38.000 You've got to be inside the meetings to know little things like that.
00:15:43.000 So much happens in the government, in the White House.
00:15:46.000 So, it's not a question of memorization.
00:15:49.000 It's really a question of osmosis.
00:15:51.000 You've got to be in the meetings with the president, hearing what he hears and all the policy briefings that he hears.
00:15:57.000 And then you've got to go around to the staff to learn the nuances and the depths of things.
00:16:02.000 I'll give you an example.
00:16:04.000 When I became press secretary, my whole background was domestic issues.
00:16:07.000 And most of the things the United States was involved in in 99 and 2000 were domestic.
00:16:12.000 The Cold War was over, the Soviet Union was gone.
00:16:15.000 It was a much different era.
00:16:17.000 But I didn't know anything about foreign policy.
00:16:19.000 So I spent the first two months of my time there getting briefings from the National Security Council staff, hotspot by hotspot around the world.
00:16:28.000 They told me when it came to China, I could say the government on Taiwan.
00:16:33.000 But if I said the government of Taiwan, it would start an international incident with China.
00:16:40.000 It's that little type of nuance that you've got to get right when you're the press secretary.
00:16:45.000 And you only do that by taking your time, learning before you speak.
00:16:50.000 So get off the road from the president.
00:16:53.000 It's glamorous to do that trip.
00:16:54.000 And I'm glad she has that experience now.
00:16:57.000 But then get back to the White House, buckle down, and start the briefing process, start the listening process.
00:17:04.000 And until that's done, don't brief.
00:17:06.000 Mike McCurry, when he became the State Department spokesman, he didn't brief for months until he was ready to learn foreign policy at the State Department prior to him becoming White House press secretary.
00:17:17.000 And I didn't take any foreign policy questions for the first couple months when I was press secretary.
00:17:22.000 I had my deputy who was in charge of the National Security Council press take those questions because I wasn't ready and I wasn't going to make an error.
00:17:31.000 Only after I got comfortable and ready a couple months into it did I take foreign policy questions.
00:17:36.000 Interesting.
00:17:37.000 So, Ari, I have like a kind of a protocol question for you.
00:17:42.000 So she did three questions, right?
00:17:44.000 So she started with Breitbart, then she went to Fox, then she went to the Daily Mail.
00:17:50.000 Do you think that that was a scripted one, two, three, or is that not really?
00:17:55.000 Appropriate in that setting to sort of, you know, I guess, script out your first couple questions because obviously we know that she came loaded with news on Kimberly Guilfoyle's, you know, that they were asking for the resignation.
00:18:08.000 As a matter of fact, I'll play that clip just to make sure we have it.
00:18:10.000 Sop three.
00:18:11.000 We have asked Ambassador Guilfoyle to resign.
00:18:15.000 She has been a wonderful asset to the team and we wish her well.
00:18:19.000 Right.
00:18:19.000 So that felt like they knew they were going to get there and it was going to break news that wasn't about.
00:18:25.000 Katie Zachariah, is that something that you would script out and kind of plan out?
00:18:29.000 Yeah, actually, by the reporter's reaction, I don't think that was scripted because the reporter was kind of shocked to hear the answer.
00:18:38.000 Maybe they set the reporter up and said, You ought to ask this question.
00:18:41.000 You might make a little news.
00:18:43.000 I don't know. 0.88
00:18:45.000 Sometimes White Houses will do that with reporters.
00:18:49.000 But, you know, it was a home game for her, her first game.
00:18:52.000 So it was somewhat smart to take questions from conservative media first.
00:18:56.000 There's a little protection built into that.
00:18:58.000 But that can't last.
00:19:00.000 You've got to spread the questions around to everybody in that room.
00:19:03.000 That room belongs to everybody, it belongs to the American people.
00:19:06.000 I've long argued it has a shortage of conservatives.
00:19:09.000 We need more conservatives in that room, but you can't ignore mainstream media that's in that room.
00:19:14.000 They get a question too.
00:19:16.000 It's just the burden and the job of being press secretary.
00:19:19.000 Yeah, well, it's interesting too.
00:19:21.000 A lot of the feedback, there's two interesting things.
00:19:23.000 I'm curious if you're surprised by either of them.
00:19:27.000 All I've heard since is wow, I've gotten calls.
00:19:30.000 Ari from Liberal Press.
00:19:33.000 After the press briefing, I had calls if I wanted to comment on it.
00:19:36.000 I deferred.
00:19:37.000 But everybody was like, well, you know, it's so tough because Caroline Levitt was so good at this job.
00:19:41.000 People don't realize how good she was behind the scenes.
00:19:44.000 And I'd love your insight on how much of the work is actually working with people behind the scenes.
00:19:49.000 But then they started getting into her law degree, and if she'd ever, you know, I guess, passed the bar in any state.
00:19:55.000 Were you surprised by any of that in this behind the scenes thing?
00:19:59.000 One minute.
00:20:00.000 Yeah.
00:20:01.000 The behind the scenes things number one, you get your information from the president, first and foremost.
00:20:05.000 You must be in the meetings, but you can't be in every meeting all day long.
00:20:09.000 So, two, you get your news from the staff, and there you have to have relationships.
00:20:13.000 Caroline Levitt worked on the campaign.
00:20:15.000 She had a relationship with everybody prior to the president's inauguration, just as I did being on the Bush campaign.
00:20:22.000 You come in, you know everybody.
00:20:24.000 You've worked with them for a year.
00:20:26.000 And that's huge because there are many times you're going to have to go to the staff and you have to know which staff is going to give you a full, accurate, in-context answer, not the answer they want you to give on TV because there might be something missing from that answer.
00:20:38.000 Or there might be a feud between two staffers and one's giving you their point of view.
00:20:42.000 So a good press secretary has got to surf through that.
00:20:47.000 It's hard to do coming in from the outside.
00:20:49.000 Don't tell them unless you know the players.
00:20:51.000 Yeah.
00:20:52.000 Well, I thought it was interesting, Ari, that I got so many press people calling me because I was running press at Turning Point for a long time.
00:20:57.000 So they were calling me and they were telling me precisely Caroline was very good behind the scenes with other press as well, helping them out.
00:21:08.000 How about the two 30 year old women who were murdered by an illegal migrant in my county?
00:21:16.000 What do you say to their families?
00:21:18.000 What do you say to all those people? Who have had their children hooked on drugs by illegal migrants bringing fentanyl, cocaine, and heroin into our communities.
00:21:28.000 We have an epidemic of crime from these illegal migrants. 0.99
00:21:32.000 16,000 detainers are out there for people who committed 52,000 crimes in our state, and you won't let local law enforcement cooperate with ICE to pick them up and get out of this state. 1.00
00:21:45.000 That was Bruce Blakeman.
00:21:46.000 I'll tell you, Ari, I am in New York right now.
00:21:50.000 I'm in Manhattan.
00:21:51.000 I did this News Nation event.
00:21:54.000 Last night with Cuomo and Stephen A. Smith.
00:21:56.000 After the event, I had all these guys, and it was a very liberal setting, I will tell you.
00:22:01.000 After the event, I had, I'm not kidding, six or seven people say, Hey, I'm a Democrat.
00:22:07.000 I'm voting Republican this cycle.
00:22:10.000 It's this weird map where the blue states might go redder and the red states might go bluer.
00:22:16.000 So we got to talk messaging.
00:22:18.000 What is working out there?
00:22:20.000 Is this message on illegal immigration working in blue states?
00:22:22.000 Maybe something else is going to work in red states?
00:22:25.000 What are you seeing?
00:22:26.000 What are you honing in on and what should be the homestretch message?
00:22:30.000 Yeah, I hate to say it.
00:22:31.000 This is one of those cycles, Andrew, where the most important message is to define your opponent and make sure the American people, the people, your state see them as a radical.
00:22:40.000 And because of the rise of socialism in the Democratic Party and the whole progressive swing of the Democrat Party, what used to be a liberal that was unacceptable is now a progressive or a socialist that's even more unacceptable.
00:22:52.000 You've got to define them because it's a very tough, choppy sea for a Republicans this cycle.
00:22:57.000 If the race is about Republicans, if the race is about President Trump, other than the reddest or red states, it's going to be really tough.
00:23:05.000 So you've got to be aggressive, define your opponent, and make the race about your opponent.
00:23:10.000 And there's a lot of meat to work with for the good candidates who can do that.
00:23:14.000 I think that's a perfect answer, though.
00:23:16.000 I would tell you, David Marcus over at Fox, I was messaging with him, and he said he's not seeing the doom and gloom on the ground.
00:23:25.000 He's been in Minnesota.
00:23:26.000 He says that Tafoya race is completely winnable.
00:23:29.000 Partly because you've got this Flanagan character who's a total radical, right?
00:23:35.000 I just pulled up this image, Protect Trans Kids.
00:23:39.000 Alpha News, I don't know if you saw this this morning.
00:23:41.000 They have an exclusive at Alpha News, which is the best, I think, conservative news outlet in Minnesota.
00:23:47.000 They have a story of her grandfather was a potential, I guess, mass murderer, serial killer.
00:23:54.000 He was in a mental hospital.
00:23:56.000 You can't hold her accountable for the sins of her grandfather.
00:23:59.000 But it's like she's a very radical person in and of herself.
00:24:03.000 So Tafoya's making ground up in that race because of that. 0.61
00:24:07.000 You've got another clip here that I want to play, Ari, out of.
00:24:11.000 Georgia, there was another debate last night.
00:24:13.000 Mike Collins flipped the tables on John Ossoff when it comes to this whole Epstein narrative.
00:24:19.000 Go ahead and play SOT 8.
00:24:21.000 John Ossoff, his number one donor, one of his largest donors is Reed Hoffman.
00:24:27.000 The same guy that's in the Epstein files, the same guy that sent ice cream to Jeffrey Epstein on his birthday and said, This is for the girls.
00:24:39.000 John, the call's coming from inside the house.
00:24:42.000 Epstein class that you're talking about.
00:24:44.000 I'm looking at him right now.
00:24:48.000 Yikes.
00:24:49.000 Quite the moment. 0.63
00:24:49.000 All right, Fleischer, that's a tough race. 0.63
00:24:52.000 I mean, John Assoff, I've heard him described recently as the best political athlete on the left that they have right now.
00:25:02.000 So that's going to be a tough race for Collins.
00:25:03.000 But nevertheless, I love this.
00:25:05.000 Who are you seeing do this well so that we can kind of think of a model?
00:25:09.000 Yeah, I think the best example is Michigan.
00:25:11.000 I think Mike Rogers in that first debate against Abdullah Saeed really took it to Abdullah.
00:25:17.000 And made the case, you know.
00:25:19.000 And then you had Abdul go on meet the press and say none of his relatives have ever been members of the Muslim brotherhood.
00:25:25.000 And then it comes out, his own sister tweeted earlier that their mother was a member of the Muslim brotherhood. 0.86
00:25:32.000 Now wouldn't it be nice to have a United States senator who doesn't have a little Muslim brotherhood on the side?
00:25:37.000 I mean, Mike Rogers is pressing that case against Abdul.
00:25:42.000 You know, Abdul also says he's a doctor.
00:25:44.000 He's an unlicensed doctor.
00:25:45.000 He acts as if he would be somebody who could write you a prescription.
00:25:48.000 It'd be a crime if he wrote your prescription.
00:25:50.000 Mike Rogers has pressed that case, undermining Abdul's narrative and authority in a race that otherwise Abdul wants to run, just on the basis of President Trump.
00:26:01.000 So that's a perfect example.
00:26:03.000 And I'm working on that race, I should disclose.
00:26:05.000 But that's a perfect example of someone making the opponent the issue rather than where the Democrats want to make the case, which is to make President Trump the issue in a midterm election.
00:26:17.000 That's the trick.
00:26:18.000 That's the formula for victory in what is going to be a tough year for Republicans.
00:26:23.000 But it doesn't have to be a terrible year for Republicans.
00:26:27.000 Just as 2022 in Biden's first midterm was supposed to be a terrible year for Democrats, and it only turned out to be a difficult year.
00:26:36.000 It wasn't that terrible.
00:26:37.000 Republicans took the House, but took it by very small margins.
00:26:40.000 Republicans have a real chance here to cut down the Democratic wave, cut down the margins, because the Democrats have served up candidates who are just so out of tune with the mainstream of America.
00:26:50.000 Yeah, Ari.
00:26:51.000 And it just stands out to me.
00:26:53.000 We're looking at New York, we're looking at Minnesota.
00:26:55.000 An advantage we have that's really developing.
00:26:59.000 It just seems like you can be mad at Trump in the abstract, but if you're in these blue states that aren't 100% totally captured yet, like the failure of blue governance is just so stark and extreme.
00:27:12.000 Everyone's moving out of blue states and they're moving to red states.
00:27:17.000 Blue states only sustain themselves with international immigration. 0.65
00:27:21.000 And it's just, we haven't had that pattern in this level of starkness before in history that I know of.
00:27:27.000 It's just, if you're in Minnesota, you know your state is in decline and you know it's not Donald Trump's fault.
00:27:32.000 You know, it's because of the Democrats who've been running it.
00:27:35.000 And maybe that'll get us some wins that you wouldn't expect.
00:27:38.000 Yeah, I think Minnesota is one to keep your eye on election night.
00:27:41.000 I think New Hampshire is another one to keep your eye on for a Senate race on election night.
00:27:44.000 That's a purple state that's gone blue in the Senate for quite a long time, has a potential now to have a Republican senator.
00:27:52.000 Michigan, of course, hasn't had a Republican senator since 1996.
00:27:56.000 That's a state to keep your eye on.
00:27:59.000 But, you know, the bigger picture here, you asked me about 2026, but I want to broaden the lens here for a second.
00:28:05.000 You pointed out how people are moving out of all these blue states, whether it's California or Illinois or New York or New Jersey.
00:28:12.000 And they're moving to the red states.
00:28:14.000 The 2032 presidential election is going to be an election held in which some 10 to 15 electoral votes have shifted out of the Democratic category to the Republican category because of that external migration you just referred to.
00:28:28.000 The Democrats have their last best shot coming up in 2028 before the tidal wave of migration basically creates a whole new battleground state that the Republicans have already won before the election started because of population shifts.
00:28:43.000 That's why the 26 election, 28 election, setting up the census are huge and it's important for Republicans to turn out.
00:28:50.000 And then the tide really turns in a Republican favor.
00:28:53.000 No one knows who the candidates will be, but America has shifted big time.
00:28:58.000 And I like to look longer, have a longer horizon look.
00:29:01.000 Yes, we should look at the media election, but the horizon is really bright for Republicans.
00:29:06.000 Amen.
00:29:07.000 Ari Fleischer, Fleischer Communications, former White House press secretary.
00:29:10.000 So good to have you, my friend.
00:29:12.000 We'll see you soon.
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00:31:00.000 I am holding it down on the East Coast, which is something I normally leave for our next guest, Jack Pasobic.
00:31:07.000 We're going to have him on because, well, he's just a great guest in general, but his second edition of Unhumans, the New York Times bestseller, is out.
00:31:16.000 Book he wrote alongside Joshua Lysik, The Socialist Revolution Tactics for Patriots to Survive a Communist Uprising, and it has.
00:31:25.000 14 new chapters.
00:31:27.000 14.
00:31:29.000 That's a lot of new chapters, Jack.
00:31:31.000 Welcome back to the show, Jack Posobiec.
00:31:33.000 You will find him here after the Charlie Kirk show, starting at 2 p.m. Eastern as well.
00:31:38.000 Host of Human Events Daily with Jack Pasovik.
00:31:40.000 Jack, tell us about this new edition of Unhumans.
00:31:44.000 Why now?
00:31:44.000 Why in the lead up to the midterms?
00:31:46.000 And what are the key takeaways?
00:31:48.000 Yeah, guys.
00:31:49.000 Well, it's great to be here, of course, on Charlie's birthday.
00:31:53.000 And the fact that it is Charlie's birthday without Charlie shows us what the stakes are and shows us how serious this has gotten in our country, where we now live in a time where these same forces that. would have led to the entire country at least banding together and saying that we're against political violence and taking actual serious stands to make strides against that.
00:32:14.000 We haven't done so.
00:32:15.000 We live in a country now where millions of people celebrated Charlie's murder.
00:32:20.000 We live in a country where millions of people call for President Trump to be killed every single day.
00:32:25.000 We live in a country where people, thousands at least, of people celebrated Lindsey Clancy and said that she was some positive, you know, or a victim, I should say.
00:32:35.000 She was a victim and she was like a hero and they raised tons of money for her on goFundMe.
00:32:41.000 And so we live in a time where, unfortunately, the unhuman activity has gotten so much worse.
00:32:47.000 And we made for the cover here, we, of course, put the Statue of Liberty, has now been transformed to the Statue of Tyranny.
00:32:55.000 And we're doing so to explain that New York City has fallen to this kind of communism.
00:33:00.000 Washington, D.C. will be next when Janelle George becomes the mayoress of D.C. here in, I think, January.
00:33:08.000 They've got the DA, Larry Krasner, Soros DA, up in Philadelphia, who's letting violent criminals out who are now.
00:33:14.000 Setting ambushes for white police officers and said that he would only kill them if they were white.
00:33:20.000 And so, unfortunately, the situation has gotten far, far worse than it was two years ago.
00:33:26.000 And unfortunately, there's still so much that we need to do to fight back.
00:33:31.000 So, that's why we're putting out this new updated edition.
00:33:33.000 We're honored to have the president come out and endorse it. 0.61
00:33:36.000 It's Unhuman's Socialist Revolution.
00:33:39.000 And really, you know, what happened to Charlie, I think, forms a sort of moral backbone for the book in the sense that people now understand.
00:33:47.000 What the stakes actually are, because when we wrote on Humans, One keep in mind that was 10 days, that would so that came out on july 4th of 2024.
00:33:55.000 That was 10 days before the Butler, Pennsylvania attempted assassination of president Trump.
00:34:01.000 That was months before the september I think august excuse me the august?
00:34:06.000 Um no, it was september.
00:34:07.000 September attack at Uh Trump International West Palm Beach, before the december shooting of Luigi Maggione going after the United Healthcare ceo, and then, of course, about a year before, the murder of our dear friend.
00:34:19.000 And so people need to understand that the stakes are very, very high.
00:34:23.000 And when you've got socialist candidates running around playing footsie with this extreme form of violence, people have to know that it gets really, real, really fast.
00:34:33.000 We had this, I don't know if you guys played the clip yet, but there's that candidate running for county commissioner or something out in Indiana where she just comes out and says, I'm going to fire the Republicans.
00:34:42.000 And if they get in my way, we're going to use the guns.
00:34:46.000 She just says it.
00:34:47.000 Yeah.
00:34:47.000 We have guns too, I think is what she said.
00:34:50.000 We haven't played the clip yet.
00:34:51.000 We can load it up if the team can grab it.
00:34:53.000 But it's, yeah, shocking clip.
00:34:55.000 I mean, that's what they really think.
00:34:56.000 You know, last night, Jack, I've mentioned it a couple times, but I was on this News Nation panel with the DSA co chair of News Nation.
00:35:04.000 You did your Grace album, I saw it.
00:35:05.000 Grace, I saw, yeah, I forget her last name.
00:35:08.000 But, anyways, so she basically says the American dream is dead.
00:35:13.000 And then this congresswoman next to me, Democrat congresswoman, actually, I think from your home area in Pennsylvania, is asked, you know, what are you going to do with this DSA insurgency?
00:35:25.000 And she said, well, we're getting welcome.
00:35:27.000 We're big tent and all this stuff.
00:35:28.000 And she then lectures about the Constitution.
00:35:31.000 I say, excuse me, ma'am, with all due respect, you're lecturing us about the Constitution and President Trump and all this stuff.
00:35:37.000 You are cozying up to a DSA that, yeah, a lot of her members mock Charlie's death, embrace political violence.
00:35:45.000 I'm not saying Grace did specifically, but they also want to abolish the presidency.
00:35:49.000 They want to abolish the Senate.
00:35:51.000 They want to abolish prisons, abolish.
00:35:54.000 They want to destroy the very document that I was being lectured about in reference to Donald Trump.
00:35:59.000 So this is a movement.
00:36:01.000 They are welcoming in this Trojan horse.
00:36:04.000 Insurrection of insurgency of anti American pro communist bias, and they're doing it openly.
00:36:09.000 This is the whole Democrat Party is now captured by this unhuman element.
00:36:14.000 Jack, explain what you mean by unhuman.
00:36:16.000 Why is the title that?
00:36:18.000 And then relate it back to what we were just talking about this DSA insurgency and the capturing of the whole Democrat Party.
00:36:23.000 Yeah, of course. 0.53
00:36:24.000 And the reason that I gave the book that title, and I guess maybe like a series now, because we've got book two, the book 2.0, that it this is a tactic that they use for their political opponents.
00:36:35.000 They don't look at us.
00:36:36.000 As humans who have rights.
00:36:38.000 They don't look at their political opponents as individuals who have rights that need to be defended at all.
00:36:43.000 They look at them as pests.
00:36:46.000 They look at you and your family and your values as if you're some backwards, toothless hick who doesn't deserve any rights at all.
00:36:55.000 And in some cases, if you're in the way too much, doesn't deserve your right to life at all.
00:37:00.000 Or if you're in the case of Charlie Kirk, you don't deserve the right to freedom of speech.
00:37:03.000 We can't defeat him, so we're going to take it away through other.
00:37:07.000 Means.
00:37:08.000 And this is what they do to their political opponents anywhere around the world.
00:37:13.000 And by the way, I can point this out because just a simple example that I can point to in modern times where a couple of years ago, and Blake, you'll remember this, that when big tech was in so much power under the Biden years that you could be banned on the internet for almost saying, and you could be denied the 2020 election, you could be banned.
00:37:31.000 If you misgendered someone, you could be banned or locked online.
00:37:34.000 But Democrats in the left were never banned for their favorite word for Trump supporters.
00:37:38.000 And their favorite word for Trump supporters.
00:37:40.000 Was calling us maggots.
00:37:43.000 They called us maggots every single day.
00:37:46.000 And you would see people with like millions upon millions of followers saying this.
00:37:49.000 They still do it.
00:37:50.000 And look, I'm not someone who believes in censorship, but I do point this out that that is their favorite phrase and they never faced repercussions for it from any single one of the tech platforms.
00:38:02.000 And so what we put out in terms of our thesis is that's exactly how they view conservatives, Christians, right wingers.
00:38:11.000 White, Christian, heterosexual males in society today, and really just anyone who has the ability to go out and build things without partaking in grievance culture.
00:38:21.000 Well, I think it's funny.
00:38:23.000 Danny was just messaging on this point, and he made a great point.
00:38:28.000 No one has mentioned the disinformation governance board that the left tried to create under Biden.
00:38:34.000 Nobody even talks about it.
00:38:35.000 It's like we forgot about it.
00:38:36.000 This was what they did during Biden.
00:38:38.000 Imagine giving them power again.
00:38:41.000 It's been completely forgotten.
00:38:42.000 We don't talk about it.
00:38:43.000 Well, and the reason that they weren't able to get it done was because there was a guy named Jack Posobick in a show called Human Events that completely exposed Nina Jankowicz and her insane musical stylings.
00:38:55.000 I said maybe she should go back to her. 0.63
00:38:57.000 She called herself the Moaning Myrtles, and she had this Harry Potter esque, Blake, you remember.
00:39:03.000 We've talked about her on Thought Crime.
00:39:05.000 This, like, Harry Potter tribute band kind of thing.
00:39:08.000 And Mary Poppa, I know, she didn't.
00:39:11.000 Yeah, well, no, that wasn't part of the band.
00:39:13.000 That was, like, her later thing that she was doing for disinformation.
00:39:17.000 And she had always been sort of a perennial kind of foe of myself and others online.
00:39:22.000 And the minute that I saw that she was getting anywhere near, and keep in mind, though, how serious this was, and I thank you, Danny, for bringing that up, because the minute I saw her getting close to government, remember, they wanted to put her in DHS.
00:39:33.000 The Disinformation Governments Board was going to be part of Homeland Security, which has a law enforcement capability.
00:39:41.000 DHS has law enforcement.
00:39:43.000 They have HSI, they have ICE, et cetera.
00:39:46.000 And so the idea that that would be the governing body for information in the United States should be chilling to everyone.
00:39:53.000 And so, yes.
00:39:55.000 We unfortunately were able to expose that.
00:39:57.000 Jim Jordan and others were able to take my reporting, early reporting on that, and we were able to stop it in its tracks.
00:40:04.000 But again, they're going to try again.
00:40:07.000 There's no question.
00:40:08.000 No, it's going to be worse.
00:40:09.000 It's going to be on steroids.
00:40:10.000 Everybody, pick up a copy of Unhumans 2.0.
00:40:15.000 This is 14 new chapters.
00:40:17.000 Jack Posowick, I know you only have a very limited time, so thanks for making the time for us today.
00:40:21.000 You had that heart out.
00:40:23.000 We appreciate it.
00:40:24.000 Pick up a copy. 0.99
00:40:25.000 Unhumans a day.
00:40:26.000 Support Jack, support his work.
00:40:30.000 We have Tyler Boyer, who is, you know, we give him a lot of credit on this show, but candidly, he doesn't get enough credit.
00:40:39.000 He's truly one of the architects of the grassroots revolution on the right.
00:40:45.000 We took the best plays from the playbook out of the left, put them together in a conservative model to chase ballots, chase votes in states like Arizona, Nevada, New Hampshire.
00:40:56.000 A lot of people, Citizens Alliance is.
00:40:58.000 Taking that and running with it in states like Pennsylvania.
00:41:01.000 And I believe we have Tyler.
00:41:03.000 I'm not in the studio.
00:41:04.000 We got him.
00:41:04.000 We got him.
00:41:05.000 He's right here.
00:41:06.000 We got him.
00:41:07.000 All right.
00:41:08.000 So, Tyler, you've been breaking down some of the early returns from Arizona and wanted to give our audience an update on it.
00:41:14.000 How are we looking?
00:41:15.000 Is it doom and gloom time?
00:41:18.000 What is the message?
00:41:19.000 What is the takeaway?
00:41:20.000 Yeah, look.
00:41:20.000 So, really, it's the first real drops that we've seen.
00:41:24.000 So, Ballast just came out last week.
00:41:27.000 Actually, there were some warnings that were put into place from.
00:41:31.000 The recorder here in Maricopa County, who's a good guy, Justin Heap, who said, USPS is going to be behind.
00:41:38.000 And USPS came out and said, no, we're good.
00:41:41.000 And as of yesterday, our hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of ballot chasers were out and people still hadn't received ballots in Maricopa County.
00:41:50.000 Go figure.
00:41:52.000 But the first drop really came today.
00:41:56.000 Republicans are holding pace with the Democrats on initial drops.
00:42:01.000 This is kind of bad.
00:42:03.000 Historically, for Democrats, Democrats usually do really, really well in the first handful of ballot drops with the earlier vote.
00:42:12.000 Republicans are seemingly showing up both in person and then also by mail.
00:42:19.000 So keep in mind, too, Republicans show up generally in larger percentages for the in person voting as it continues to progress throughout the election cycle.
00:42:32.000 28 day period of the election.
00:42:34.000 So early in person, Tyler?
00:42:35.000 Yeah, there are two different types of votes that are being cast right now by mail and then early in person.
00:42:41.000 The early in person data hasn't actually been totally released, particularly in Maricopa County.
00:42:47.000 I actually was on the phone with some elections officials yesterday about that, hopefully, see how those numbers propel Republican numbers.
00:42:56.000 But where we're at today in Arizona is we're single digits behind the Democrats on returns, which is a good initial spot to be in.
00:43:06.000 But have some significant catch up to do because we want to get out ahead of the Democrats in the early votes as much as humanly possible.
00:43:14.000 So, Blake, I know you've been thinking about this as well, but one of the questions that is outstanding is Did Republicans change their voting habits in 2024?
00:43:25.000 Meaning, we're seeing early vote returns that are promising in a lot of states, right?
00:43:30.000 You see on X, formerly known as Twitter, people are saying, Hey, the Blue Nami's not materializing.
00:43:36.000 We're actually doing.
00:43:37.000 Pretty well in some of these early drops.
00:43:38.000 The question is, though, are we cannibalizing some of that day of?
00:43:42.000 And is there any way to know at this point?
00:43:45.000 Have we just, yeah, go ahead.
00:43:47.000 Not to cut off Blake on this, but there are some ways to know, and that is by looking at the low propensity turnout.
00:43:53.000 So the one thing I can speak to, I can't speak to all the states, but what I can speak to is where we are, is we're seeing 20, 30% numbers of those initial Republican ballots that are being cast as low propensity Republicans, which is people who just in general are hard to turn out. 0.98
00:44:10.000 Yeah, so this is a good sign.
00:44:11.000 It's our turnout effort, basically.
00:44:12.000 So, this is a good sign.
00:44:13.000 So, I mean, I could speak to, again, New Hampshire, again, has a very tiny absentee early vote population, but 30% of those are low propensity Republicans.
00:44:26.000 That's a huge number.
00:44:27.000 That's a gigantic number.
00:44:30.000 And those are the people that we're chasing in New Hampshire.
00:44:32.000 In Arizona today, as we stand today, just about 20%, just shy of 20% of all of the first votes that have been cast, the early votes that have been cast by Republicans, are low propensity Republicans.
00:44:44.000 So, again, historically, Republicans actually had done far worse with low propensity Republicans.
00:44:50.000 We focused on that heavily here at Turning Point Action.
00:44:54.000 We want to keep that number as high as possible because, again, if you turn out in a midterm 5%, 6% more Republican based that are low propensity, you win elections.
00:45:05.000 You win elections, right?
00:45:06.000 So, right now, where we stand today in Arizona, New Hampshire, a few others, Nevada, we're looking at huge percentages of these first votes being low propensity Republicans.
00:45:19.000 That's a great first sign.
00:45:21.000 That is.
00:45:22.000 That's amazing.
00:45:24.000 Of course, I guess the other question is are we sure these people are voting the way we're hoping them to?
00:45:29.000 Because there are obviously some disaffected Republicans out there.
00:45:34.000 And so you can't always rely on the party dynamic.
00:45:37.000 Yeah, but the one thing I would point out, Blake, is that typically low propensity voters that are disaffected are not the first ones to vote.
00:45:45.000 Does that make sense?
00:45:45.000 So typically, I mean, you may have a percentage of those people that are disaffected, but the people who are least likely to vote.
00:45:52.000 Are not the ones that are like bounding for the box.
00:45:57.000 Now, of course, there could be people that are just generally totally ticked off.
00:46:00.000 But again, the people that we're looking at, particularly the people that we're chasing in Arizona, New Hampshire, Nevada, again, win, lose, or draw, we're trying to turn out more of those low propensity voters.
00:46:12.000 We're talking to them, we're building relationships with them, engaging with them.
00:46:17.000 Most people that are low propensity are not anti people.
00:46:22.000 They're not anti Trump.
00:46:23.000 They're not.
00:46:25.000 Typically, people that intend to vote think they voted, but for whatever reason just haven't.
00:46:30.000 Hey, Tyler, explain this dynamic for our audience, right?
00:46:33.000 Because you'll hear from the left Trump's very unpopular.
00:46:36.000 What is he doing going to all these rallies?
00:46:39.000 But base turnout elections, which is what a midterm election is, why is that fundamentally still the right play?
00:46:46.000 Trump still has a connection unlike any other with grassroots conservatives.
00:46:51.000 And in a base turnout election, it's all about getting your base out.
00:46:54.000 It's all about getting your base out.
00:46:56.000 You could lose the middle, the normies that maybe don't show up, but if you turn your base out, we can still defy a lot of odds and beat back some of these headwinds in the midterms.
00:47:05.000 Explain that for the audience.
00:47:06.000 Yeah, the higher the percentage turnout in an election, the more the vote matters that you can influence, right?
00:47:14.000 Because there's very little wiggle room in order to win an election.
00:47:18.000 So, in a presidential election, that's more of an influence election.
00:47:22.000 You're trying to convince people that you're the right guy.
00:47:26.000 In a midterm election, there's far fewer people that vote.
00:47:30.000 So, because of that, you can make up ground a lot faster if you get your base out more.
00:47:36.000 Your base is more excited.
00:47:37.000 So, here in Arizona, We have today the president actually visiting in Mojave County, which is a more rural county that's just right outside of Las Vegas in the northwestern part of the state.
00:47:50.000 But that actually is a place that has the most pro Trump voter in Arizona, period.
00:47:58.000 And number two, the highest contingency of people who just don't show up to vote.
00:48:02.000 So the smart play and the smart tactic is to have Trump, the president, go to those places.
00:48:08.000 And that's exactly what's happening.
00:48:10.000 And it's freaking out the left a little bit because.
00:48:12.000 The more you can turn out your base, the better it is.
00:48:14.000 See these numbers.
00:48:15.000 Trump got 500,000 more votes than Kerry Lake.
00:48:19.000 You get 100,000 of those votes, win this race easy.
00:48:23.000 You win this race.
00:48:24.000 You're competitive 100%.
00:48:26.000 Everybody, check out Commit 100.
00:48:28.000 Go to tpaction.com/slash 100.
00:48:32.000 Tyler and the team are going to take care of you.
00:48:33.000 They'll put you up in a hotel, and you get to chase 100 ballots of those low props we've just been talking about.
00:48:39.000 Tyler Boyer, we're going to keep checking in with you a lot as the weeks go on here towards November.
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00:49:46.000 Without further ado, I want to bring in our next guest.
00:49:49.000 Andy No, longtime friend of the show.
00:49:52.000 He's an investigative journalist.
00:49:53.000 You followed his work on Antifa.
00:49:56.000 What he does is he gets into these cells, these far left radical cells, and exposes them for what they are and tells a bunch of stories that you will not believe in the process.
00:50:08.000 And he's done it again. 0.81
00:50:09.000 His new book, The Zizians Inside a Trans Death Cult. 1.00
00:50:15.000 I wish that was the onion. 0.88
00:50:17.000 I wish that was a headline that was not of this world, but it is The Zizians Inside a Trans Death Cult. 0.99
00:50:22.000 The book is out now. 0.98
00:50:25.000 Andy, welcome back to the show.
00:50:27.000 We had you on, I guess, a little while ago, and you couldn't tell me so much.
00:50:32.000 So it worked.
00:50:34.000 Your employee worked.
00:50:35.000 I had to have you back on to find out more about this group that you infiltrated and found out so much about.
00:50:41.000 Tell us about the Zizians.
00:50:43.000 Thanks for having me on. 1.00
00:50:44.000 You know, I've covered a lot of very ugly, violent incidents in my reporting on Antifa in the last decade, and unfortunately, I've been a victim.
00:50:54.000 Of violence in the course of that reporting. 1.00
00:50:57.000 However, I was quite unprepared for the disturbing things I found in my investigation into the Zizians. 1.00
00:51:06.000 So you and your audience are aware of my reporting on Antifa. 1.00
00:51:12.000 And six, seven years ago, I started noticing at that time that disproportionately the number of people who were being arrested at these riots in Portland, where I used to live, and other cities are trans-identifying in some way.
00:51:27.000 So at that point, there was a question mark in the back of my mind.
00:51:30.000 On some nights, there were.
00:51:31.000 would be up to 15 to 20 percent of suspects who were trans.
00:51:35.000 And that's up to 40 times higher than the upper end estimates of the trans population in the United States.
00:51:41.000 And then when I was beaten severely in 2019 and again in 2021, nearly killed, I eventually found out the identities of people who I alleged were part of the perpetrators. 0.54
00:51:55.000 And I sued them civilly. 0.63
00:51:56.000 And half of them are trans identifying. 0.94
00:52:01.000 To a wider issue in the last five years, I'm sure many of you have noticed that there have been a number of atrocities and mass shootings and acts of mass violence by individuals who are trans identifying.
00:52:14.000 So that's the context of the beginnings of what eventually led my research into this 100,000 word book.
00:52:26.000 A year and a half ago, on Inauguration Day in Vermont, near the Canadian border, a U.S. Border Patrol agent was shot dead.
00:52:34.000 And because of all the activities that were happening in DC with the return of President Trump to office, this got very little attention.
00:52:44.000 So when the names of the two alleged suspects were released in that ambush shooting attack, I looked further because unfortunately, you cannot rely on media to be accurate when it comes to names, sex of suspects nowadays.
00:53:03.000 We've seen law enforcement agencies, for example, release the trans name of a suspect or refer to A male killer as a woman and she and her.
00:53:12.000 So when I started digging further, I found out that the two of them both identify as trans, and that's unusual.
00:53:20.000 And I digged a little bit further and I found out, oh, one of them had applied to be married to this person in California who was just arrested for a murder, and that person also identifies as all genders.
00:53:33.000 And I kept digging and digging and I found out, wait, there appears to be a cult like group who's linked.
00:53:40.000 To killings all over the US that happened over a number of years, and they were just treated as local homicide cases rather than part of a larger story.
00:53:48.000 So I flew to America from London.
00:53:51.000 I've been in exile for a number of years because of the violence against me by Antifa. 0.99
00:53:56.000 And I traveled to locations where the Zizians had lived. 0.88
00:54:00.000 And what I found and uncovered was that the biggest story here is not just a story of murders and suicides and human experimentation and trans radicalism and AI doomerism. 0.99
00:54:14.000 In many ways, the institutions in California and in other jurisdictions completely failed to hold the Zizians accountable. 0.97
00:54:22.000 They were able to fake their deaths and move from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. 0.99
00:54:26.000 There were warrants in this in California that weren't picked up in another place.
00:54:31.000 And they were able, through a number of years, to carry out their activities.
00:54:35.000 And in the end, eight people are dead.
00:54:38.000 Some of them were killed in extremely violent and brutal ways that I won't be able to share on your show.
00:54:45.000 I do detail in this book.
00:54:47.000 This book is the uncensored truth, the true story of the Zizians. 1.00
00:54:52.000 Investigating it really nearly broke me because the depth of the depravity of what I've uncovered really shook me and has challenged me. 1.00
00:55:03.000 However, I really feel that I have an obligation to try to pursue justice for the families, who to this day, by the way, there has still not been a single conviction.
00:55:14.000 So, Andy, it's obviously very ghoulish and weird that they have, yeah. 1.00
00:55:19.000 So many trans people in this group, and the press won't report to them accurately as a result. 1.00
00:55:25.000 But from your study, do you think this isn't just a coincidence, like they happen to know each other?
00:55:30.000 Do you think there's something particular to what you might call the online trans ideology that makes people more vulnerable to getting sucked into a group like this and more vulnerable, frankly, to embracing radical violence as a solution to problems as they consider them? 0.82
00:55:50.000 Because we've also seen transgender mass shooters. 0.64
00:55:53.000 Obviously, Tyler Robinson seems to have been in a relationship with someone who was linked to trans stuff.
00:55:58.000 That might have affected it.
00:55:59.000 Do you think that the trans ideology clearly is sort of an essential part of this story? 0.92
00:56:06.000 So, my book is not just a true crime investigation into the Zizians, it also examines how they fit into a broader pattern of growing trans violence. 0.95
00:56:17.000 Now, I detail all the cases that have happened in the last few years involving trans. 0.99
00:56:24.000 Killers and, and even for many people on the right, they're not aware of many of these incidents. 0.65
00:56:28.000 It just doesn't really get the media coverage and sometimes it's difficult to even find out that these individuals are trans, because it's hidden by the courts, it's hidden by law enforcement and it's not reported on.
00:56:41.000 So, even though the Zizians represent a extreme, infringed example of extremist ideology manifesting into deadly violence, there is this broader pattern that unfortunately, all of us here are aware of.
00:56:59.000 And it hits personally. 0.96
00:57:02.000 I dig into some of the research literature on transgenderism and cross-sex hormones and various mental health comorbidities.
00:57:11.000 And even though there's not a lot of research that's been performed, the limited ones that have been done and have been peer reviewed do show that amongst those who are on cross-sex hormone therapy, both male and biological female, by the way, report higher rates of aggression.
00:57:31.000 There's a lot of academic literature documenting the higher rates as well of various mental health issues, higher rates of autism. 0.70
00:57:41.000 I think when you factor in all of these variables, in addition, crucially, and this is what the Zizians, what was emblematic of their ideology, the grievance ideology, the wound collecting, how every type of interaction with family members, with friends, with society, with the state is recast into instances of abuse.
00:58:04.000 systemic abuse to the point now where they say we are victims of a trans genocide. 0.82
00:58:09.000 And some of the Zizian members said this in their own writings, encouraged one another to take up firearms.
00:58:16.000 I'm speaking to you, by the way, just as last week a man in Seattle who identifies as trans was federally charged as being an alleged co-conspirator to the Tumblr Ridge trans mass shooting that happened in British Columbia back in February, in which A man who identifies as trans carried out the slaughter of women and children, eight of them, in a small community in BC.
00:58:42.000 And you know how the Canadian authorities reported that at the time?
00:58:47.000 The official ones, law enforcement. 0.80
00:58:48.000 They described the killer as a female in a dress with brown hair.
00:58:54.000 That was the description.
00:58:56.000 And with some of the criminal complaints that have come out from American federal authorities in that case involving the alleged American suspect who helped, we see the weapons that were used in the killings.
00:59:08.000 And with the various guns, the trans pride symbols were decorated on the weapons. 0.64
00:59:12.000 So, these people were literally slaughtered by the barrel of trans pride. 0.75
00:59:17.000 And Canadians don't know this, and very few Americans know this. 0.98
00:59:20.000 Man, I have so many questions about what the Zizians believe and what they think. 0.99
00:59:27.000 Andy No joins us his new book, Zizians Inside a Trans Death Cult, which is, like I said, the title is incredible. 1.00
00:59:37.000 It's real, though, and we need to get serious about this. 0.56
00:59:40.000 And, you know, I didn't plan this out.
00:59:44.000 Andy, that you'd be on on Charlie's what would have been his 33rd birthday, but it feels important.
00:59:51.000 We're joined by Andy No, investigative journalist who knows the Antifa, I guess, death cult, but now the Trantifa death cult extremely well.
01:00:04.000 He has personal experience with it. 1.00
01:00:06.000 It's an important story because this is an underground but increasingly violent Doomer group. 0.98
01:00:14.000 And this is what's interesting. 0.82
01:00:16.000 You describe this trans death cult like a Manson family like trans death cult led by a guy named Jack Lesota.
01:00:24.000 Who is Jack Lesota and what do they believe?
01:00:27.000 Is it actually, do they consider themselves part of some community like an actual cult, Andy?
01:00:34.000 They, of course, wouldn't use the word cult to describe themselves, but all the things that they did and the writings they left behind indicate that they were and they are. 0.92
01:00:43.000 There are lots of parallels that can be drawn between Jack Lesota, the Zizine's leader. and Charles Manson.
01:00:50.000 Both of them, for separate reasons, moved to the Bay Area and got their start in California and joined various subculture movements there. 0.83
01:01:01.000 Jack Lesotho is originally from Fairbanks, Alaska, and like the other would-be Zizine members, comes from very good academic pedigree background. 0.97
01:01:12.000 He was accepted into the very competitive engineering program at University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign, and that's where he was studying. 1.00
01:01:22.000 Solar expulsions from the sun, and even had some of his research published.
01:01:26.000 And he interned at NASA.
01:01:28.000 Some of the other associations that the Zizian members that he would later meet had included working for Google, going to the University of Oxford, UC Berkeley, nearly perfect SAT scores before they went to very good universities, working in quantum trading, making half a million dollars a year to bankroll their activities.
01:01:51.000 So when Ziz moved to the Bay Area nearly a decade ago, It was to join the communities that were debating rationalism and effective altruism.
01:02:00.000 We're hearing a lot about effective altruism, also known as EA, now because a number of former engineers who worked at Anthropic and OpenAI are talking about the risk that AI poses to humanity and the world.
01:02:16.000 But many years ago, a number of young people moved to the barrier to join the various groups there to have these type of debates.
01:02:24.000 They really do believe in an apocalyptic.
01:02:27.000 Vision of what a super intelligent AI can do.
01:02:31.000 Ziz, as he eventually became known, thought that there wasn't enough being done by the mainstream institutions.
01:02:38.000 So he formed his own ideology.
01:02:40.000 I saw during the breaks that we were watching a clip of Charlie Kirk talking with Bill Maher about atheism and Christianity. 0.57
01:02:48.000 Well, the Scythians were atheistic, and they rejected concepts and values from Christianity involving the value of human life.
01:02:57.000 So as staunch vegans, he believed, for example, that anybody who consumes meat was evil and worthy of death.
01:03:06.000 So part of the recruitment process for the cult was that first, the potential recruit had to be vegan.
01:03:14.000 And second, if that individual happened to be transgender, that was a plus.
01:03:18.000 They believed that transgender women were gifted with special cognitive abilities and that together they could form this group that would become a trans vanguard of those who would save the world. 0.89
01:03:34.000 But those worthy of being saved aren't humans.
01:03:37.000 In their eyes, it was animals, it was shrimps, it was insects.
01:03:41.000 They viewed those lives As equal to human life, which, if the accusations against them are true, may explain why they had no hesitation to murder people in really brutal, violent, depraved ways.
01:03:55.000 Andy, I want to highlight on that.
01:03:57.000 You're saying they consider shrimp lives equal.
01:03:59.000 And you guys look this up if you don't believe us.
01:04:03.000 That's a group in the rationalist communities.
01:04:05.000 They talk about maximizing welfare.
01:04:08.000 So some of them will say, rather than give money to a charitable cause for humans you believe in, they would say, Build a shrimp farm to raise large numbers of shrimp because you are creating more conscious experience of the universe.
01:04:23.000 This is a subculture that's out there.
01:04:25.000 And so, Andy, as we approach the end here, do we need to worry about the fact that these people grew out of this rationalist community and a lot of people in the same community are at the commanding heights of the global economy right now?
01:04:40.000 Do you think we need to worry about that at all?
01:04:42.000 Do we need to educate ourselves on that?
01:04:45.000 It's important to caveat that not all rationalists or Effective altruists are extreme or radical.
01:04:52.000 There is a segment within them, though, that are because a lot of the people in those communities are one, highly intelligent, two, on the spectrum, three, have money, and four, a lot of time to think about various ideas.
01:05:06.000 And there's no limits to what questions are debated and what paths of thinking are allowed to go down.
01:05:15.000 And so there is a small faction within that that has led to some radicals. 0.70
01:05:22.000 the Zizians being the most prominent example. 0.85
01:05:26.000 And I think for those who may be confused, the Zizians and many EA and rationalist people, they think of life as sort of algorithms and even themselves.
01:05:38.000 They come up with very complicated mathematical models for, quote unquote, maximizing good.
01:05:45.000 And so for the Zizians, you can think of it in one way. 1.00
01:05:50.000 What is it to kill? 0.57
01:05:52.000 One person or two people or ten people or a hundred or a thousand, if it means saving millions of lives or prawn or insect or animals that are in the wild, these are this was the value system that the Zizings had, and it kind of shows you sort of the um amorality, the literal amorality that rises when traditional religious worldviews are removed. 0.64
01:06:18.000 It's such a good point, Andy.
01:06:20.000 The point you're making, I think a lot of us have been scratching our heads when you look at.
01:06:24.000 The Annunciation Catholic Church school shooting, right?
01:06:28.000 The Tumblr Ridge Secondary School shooting in British Columbia that you mentioned before.
01:06:32.000 The Pawtucket Hockey Arena shooting. 0.85
01:06:35.000 It was just trans shooting after trans shooting after trans shooting, and all of us start going collectively, What the hell is going on? 0.89
01:06:42.000 And why is there this murderous element to it? 0.82
01:06:46.000 It also makes me think of the recent AI Doomer story where everybody had to go meet at the White House.
01:06:52.000 These stories are not disconnected, they're interrelated because some of these same ideologies coming out of the Bay Area, which, you know, shocker, are flowing through both of these movements.
01:07:03.000 Final 30 seconds here, Andy.
01:07:06.000 Um, you know, maybe just sum that up and codify those connections and tell us where we can get your book.
01:07:12.000 As part of my research, I went to Nashville where I visited the Covenant School and Presbyterian Church, where Audrey Hale, trans shooter, murdered children and school administrators several years ago.
01:07:25.000 Audrey Hale left behind a manifesto, journal, and also the Annunciation Minneapolis church shooter did as well.
01:07:34.000 And a common theme in that, as well as the writings of the Zizians, is they. 1.00
01:07:39.000 Could not accept the biological reality of what they are. 1.00
01:07:43.000 And so I think when lies are indulged and encouraged and legitimized by wider society, amongst some individuals, you will see atrocities as we have seen.
01:07:55.000 My book is available now for order wherever books are sold.
01:07:57.000 Thank you.
01:07:59.000 Zizians by Andy No.
01:08:00.000 Pick it up when you can.
01:08:02.000 Great, great book, Andy.
01:08:03.000 Good job.
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