The Charlie Kirk Show - October 16, 2026


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00:00:03.000 My name is Charlie Kirk.
00:00:05.000 I run the largest pro American student organization in the country fighting for the future of our republic.
00:00:11.000 My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth.
00:00:14.000 If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're going to end up miserable.
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00:00:24.000 College is a scam, everybody.
00:00:26.000 You got to stop sending your kids to college.
00:00:27.000 You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible.
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00:00:41.000 Most important decision I ever made in my life.
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00:01:17.000 All right.
00:01:18.000 Welcome, everybody.
00:01:18.000 It is October 16th, 2026.
00:01:21.000 We're live from Phoenix, Arizona.
00:01:23.000 Good to be with you here at the Y Refi Studios.
00:01:26.000 How are we doing, Blake?
00:01:27.000 Oh, we're doing lovely.
00:01:28.000 All right.
00:01:28.000 We've got eyes on a lot of things today, including the president in Dalton, Georgia.
00:01:34.000 He's doing another rally.
00:01:35.000 God bless him.
00:01:36.000 He's 80 years old, still out there making it happen.
00:01:39.000 And as I said, At that News Nation Town Hall.
00:01:42.000 I think I said it yesterday.
00:01:43.000 The president still has a connection with the base, unlike any other.
00:01:47.000 Midterms are a base turnout operation and exercise.
00:01:51.000 So he's doing the right thing.
00:01:53.000 This is huge and hugely important.
00:01:55.000 We're getting numbers coming in from Arizona, Nevada, New Hampshire, the three states that we're doing the full ballot chase in at Turning Point Action. 0.97
00:02:03.000 And I will tell you, at least in those three states, now North Carolina is looking not so great, if we're just being honest, but in those three states, there's no Blue Nami. 0.99
00:02:14.000 I'm going to call it right now.
00:02:15.000 There's no blue NAMI.
00:02:16.000 Anything can still happen.
00:02:18.000 We got to show up.
00:02:19.000 We got to do it.
00:02:19.000 But the numbers indicate that we are doing better than our 2022 numbers.
00:02:24.000 And I will tell you in 2022, you remember we fell 17,000 ballots short.
00:02:29.000 And that included all the shenanigans and all the lines and all the garbage we had to deal with in Maricopa.
00:02:36.000 So good, good first indication. 0.76
00:02:38.000 Even Rich Barris, who is not exactly Mr. White Pill.
00:02:42.000 I love Rich, but he'll.
00:02:45.000 He'll not be pumping you up full of copium or hopium.
00:02:47.000 Even Rich Barris is saying Nevada and Arizona are massive bright spots on the map.
00:02:52.000 So I'm all for this one more time.
00:02:54.000 160 million people will vote in a presidential election, but only 100 million people are probably going to turn out for this midterm.
00:03:01.000 It's all about who shows up. 0.95
00:03:03.000 It's all about the base getting out there and saying no to these crazy left wing lunatics. 0.96
00:03:08.000 We cannot have these people running our government and the levers of power. 0.95
00:03:13.000 And I will explain that.
00:03:14.000 In another way, in just a second, Blake has a whole rundown on the left's 2029 plan.
00:03:19.000 You want to be freaked out?
00:03:21.000 You want to be terrified at the potential future we are staring at?
00:03:26.000 Wait until Blake gets a hold of you this morning and you're going to love it.
00:03:30.000 I do want to give a special shout out, however, to the brave Good Samaritan in Bend, Oregon.
00:03:36.000 There was a school shooting yesterday while we were live doing our thought crime show.
00:03:40.000 I was seeing the news reports come in.
00:03:42.000 Terrible stuff.
00:03:43.000 And we just want to say thank God that Oregon somehow still has concealed.
00:03:48.000 Permits, and you can still carry a weapon in Oregon.
00:03:51.000 I don't know how that has survived the communists in that state, but it has.
00:03:55.000 And this gentleman was carrying, and there was a shooter in this parking lot. 0.52
00:04:00.000 He ended up shooting up the parking lot and this Good Samaritan's car even got shot up.
00:04:07.000 He trails him inside and takes him out.
00:04:11.000 Unfortunately, a five, an eight, and an 11 year old and one teacher were killed before he was able to do this, but he saw him enter the school.
00:04:19.000 The shooter shot the locks on the doors, gets in, breaches the school.
00:04:23.000 He follows him in and takes him out.
00:04:26.000 Thank God.
00:04:26.000 I mean, even CNN, Blake, is praising this guy, saying, A lot more kids would have died without this Good Samaritan.
00:04:34.000 So, God bless them.
00:04:35.000 Yeah, God bless them.
00:04:35.000 If I ever have a chance to thank you in person, whoever you are out there, I really, really would love the opportunity.
00:04:41.000 I just want to shake your hand because that takes absolute bravery to see.
00:04:46.000 He didn't know what age he was.
00:04:47.000 Turns out the shooter was 16, goes into the school, follows him in, and takes him out.
00:04:52.000 So, God bless that man.
00:04:54.000 That is just wonderful.
00:04:56.000 And by the way, Oregon has a lot of great people in it, a ton of great people. 0.76
00:04:59.000 That eastern side of that state is about as red.
00:05:02.000 Blooded as it gets. 1.00
00:05:04.000 So, God bless him.
00:05:04.000 All right, Blake, we've heard about Project 2025.
00:05:08.000 Yes.
00:05:08.000 It was much maligned.
00:05:09.000 It was a big boogeyman during the election.
00:05:11.000 And, you know, President Trump, he doesn't like other people to sort of muscle in.
00:05:14.000 So, he's like, I don't know these guys.
00:05:16.000 But a lot of those ideas were good ideas, stuff that we would have endorsed anyways.
00:05:20.000 Exactly.
00:05:20.000 And they were ideas percolating within the ecosystem on the intellectual right.
00:05:24.000 And we wanted to see that.
00:05:25.000 For those who don't remember it, Project 2025, it was just, it was work at Heritage, a few other people contributed.
00:05:32.000 But the basic idea was we all remember Trump's first term.
00:05:35.000 Took a long time to get off the ground.
00:05:36.000 There was not a lot of understanding of the mechanisms of how government worked.
00:05:40.000 And so we just didn't get as much done in Trump's first term as we all would have wanted.
00:05:45.000 And that's a big reason Trump's second term achieved so much more right away.
00:05:50.000 He rolls in, he has all those executive orders.
00:05:53.000 They bring in Doge, they fire a lot of people, they dismantle a lot.
00:05:57.000 That's why we're able to instantly control the border.
00:05:59.000 We're able to instantly do so many more things because they had better understanding of this.
00:06:05.000 I want to highlight this is an article in Vox.
00:06:07.000 Do you remember Vox, guys?
00:06:08.000 You don't hear about Vox.com nearly as much.
00:06:11.000 They were obviously suffocating during Obama's second term.
00:06:15.000 They are still around.
00:06:16.000 And there's an article from Zach Beecham, a writer there who's actually just leaving.
00:06:20.000 It's his last article for them.
00:06:21.000 The Radical Democratic Plan to Change the Government for Good.
00:06:27.000 And what this is outlining is essentially he calls it yes, for good.
00:06:31.000 For good.
00:06:32.000 Yep, double meaning there for sure from these guys.
00:06:34.000 Is it forever or for worse?
00:06:35.000 Yes.
00:06:36.000 Or for good?
00:06:36.000 Yes.
00:06:37.000 Yes.
00:06:37.000 And it outlines what is, in effect, a Project 2029.
00:06:41.000 And it's a very long article.
00:06:43.000 It's pretty sprawling because, for one, there's not literally a Project 2029 on the left.
00:06:48.000 They, frankly, didn't need any new NGOs, any new projects.
00:06:52.000 They have a ton of them already.
00:06:53.000 It's called almost every other nonprofit in the country.
00:06:56.000 I'm half convinced, just for what it's worth, that half of the Democrat base that votes is employed by an NGO.
00:07:02.000 Yeah, or like a university. 0.95
00:07:04.000 It's ridiculous. 0.83
00:07:05.000 And then local government. 0.80
00:07:06.000 And they can create local government departments that just don't.
00:07:09.000 Come up with these things.
00:07:10.000 So, this, for example, is heavily shaped by a Cornell law professor.
00:07:15.000 Let me get a name that is K. Sabil Rahman, the one person who embodies the real Project 2029's vision.
00:07:22.000 Sounds like a real American.
00:07:24.000 Yeah.
00:07:24.000 And a professor at Cornell.
00:07:26.000 And basically, it's just the whole article is pretty long, but it's essentially making the case that Democrats have now internalized certain theories of Project 2025 that basically, as much as they complain about Trump, What they do admire about Trump is his willingness to be visionary, be really aggressive about what you can do with government, throw your weight around a bit.
00:07:49.000 And the construct they have here is well, we can make a left wing version of this, a grab bag of policy ideas that will be more ambitious than a prior Democrat administration, but entrench democracy, as they would say.
00:08:04.000 And by power, the democracy, remember, the left always means our oligarchy.
00:08:09.000 Our democracy equals our oligarchy.
00:08:12.000 Just remember that.
00:08:13.000 And by the way, still in this list are turning Puerto Rico into a state, turning D.C. into a state.
00:08:19.000 Packing the Supreme Court, and they want to limit presidential powers because they've seen what President Trump has been able to accomplish through his use of executive powers.
00:08:29.000 It includes their goals.
00:08:30.000 Goals include funding community based organizations that can both assist in effective policy implementation and organize against federal overreach, aka funnel your tax dollars to all this giant network of organizations that can gum it up if a right wing government ever comes in.
00:08:45.000 And yeah, rewrite the basic structures of D.C. government by blowing up the filibuster, making D.C. and Puerto Rico states, and overhauling the Supreme Court.
00:08:52.000 He throws this in in a bullet list at the bottom of a bunch, and yet that's clearly the whole game.
00:08:57.000 They say, Oh, we're going to blow up the Supreme Court, blow up the filibuster.
00:09:01.000 What their plan is, is they want to seize as much territory as possible and just make it immune to anybody undoing it.
00:09:08.000 Yes.
00:09:08.000 It is basically blow up checks and balances.
00:09:12.000 They're trying to Trump proof a future government.
00:09:16.000 So once they get power, they want to make sure that a guy like Trump, whether it's JD, Marco, whoever, can never do what Trump did again.
00:09:23.000 That is their whole goal.
00:09:25.000 And they want to insulate.
00:09:27.000 The civil service, meaning federal employees from being fired in the future.
00:09:31.000 We're going to get a permanent bureaucracy, and their whole goal is to make communism more efficient so they can take your wealth, take your money, and give it to the poor that they import.
00:09:41.000 That's the whole idea.
00:09:42.000 All right.
00:09:43.000 So we started this whole segment.
00:09:45.000 Okay.
00:09:45.000 So Trump's out.
00:09:47.000 He's rallying the base.
00:09:48.000 Get out and vote.
00:09:49.000 That's what Charlie wanted for his birthday.
00:09:51.000 That's what we're begging you to do.
00:09:52.000 Go to tpaction.comslash 100.
00:09:54.000 Go chase 100 ballots for us.
00:09:55.000 Please get a plan to vote.
00:09:58.000 And for all your friends, it's all about base turnout, all about base turnout.
00:10:01.000 And guess what? 0.94
00:10:02.000 Because we're staring at a very, very bleak future if these lunatics get power. 0.97
00:10:08.000 Yeah.
00:10:08.000 And the Vox article paints it all out for us.
00:10:10.000 Yeah, they want to make communism more efficient, more powerful.
00:10:14.000 I love it where they describe how they, this is one of the paragraphs.
00:10:17.000 Remember, this guy's friendly to them.
00:10:19.000 This renovated federal government would be simultaneously more efficient and more constrained, capable of reacting to economic crises.
00:10:26.000 You can imagine how the left would want to do that, and delivering benefits while simultaneously.
00:10:32.000 Incapable of prosecuting the president's political enemies or wielding ICE against peaceful protesters.
00:10:38.000 Oh, get out of here.
00:10:38.000 That's such a baffling one because it just shows this muddled idea that like ICE is sent in to beat up protesters.
00:10:45.000 And no, what they're really basically saying is I guess they would want the law to allow random protesters to make it impossible to enforce immigration law.
00:10:52.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:10:52.000 That's what they're saying.
00:10:53.000 No, exactly.
00:10:53.000 Because remember, the whole project is a replacement operation.
00:10:56.000 They want to replace America and its institutions, its values, and its people with third worlders that will vote for them. 1.00
00:11:04.000 And then their whole plan is to turn you into tax cattle. 1.00
00:11:08.000 They are going to leech you.
00:11:10.000 It reminds me of that image from The Matrix, where all the bodies are just placed on these huge fields and they're harvesting their life force.
00:11:19.000 Body energy.
00:11:20.000 Yeah.
00:11:20.000 Body energy.
00:11:21.000 That's what you will become to them.
00:11:22.000 This is what you are in California, by the way.
00:11:24.000 Yeah.
00:11:24.000 This is what you are in California.
00:11:25.000 They imported the third world and all the middle class are getting sucked dry. 1.00
00:11:29.000 You can never get ahead because they make it impossible. 1.00
00:11:32.000 They put a ceiling on your wealth creation ability and to get into the higher earning status or to build.
00:11:38.000 Generational wealth because they're going to suck it off you and give it to the poor.
00:11:42.000 That's the whole point.
00:11:43.000 What it is is it's also basically a blueprint for anarcho tyranny.
00:11:46.000 That's essentially what they're laying out.
00:11:48.000 That they're saying this government will have unlimited power to do left wing goals and essentially zero power to do something only the right would ever do.
00:11:56.000 So they'll say we're creating limits on government, but that limit will basically be ICE can just never properly arrest or deport.
00:12:03.000 We'll never have proper immigration enforcement.
00:12:05.000 That will be illegal because we believe in a limited government, but we believe in an unlimited government in terms of we're going to hire a vast civil service.
00:12:12.000 We'll insulate that civil service from the president because we know the civil service will be left wing no matter what.
00:12:18.000 So just make it insulated from a president blocking what they want to do. 0.92
00:12:22.000 So, it can just do left wing stuff to an unlimited degree.
00:12:25.000 We're going to have unlimited deference from our Supreme Court, which will 100% shut down anything the right wants to do through the Supreme Court.
00:12:33.000 It's very much this, it's anarcho tyranny in the sense the left believes in unlimited power to do the things it wants to do and zero power for the right to do anything it wants to do.
00:12:42.000 They'll never be able to deconstruct their new apparatus, their communism apparatus.
00:12:46.000 There was a clip from Momdani I just thought of so that we don't have it.
00:12:50.000 But he said this recently.
00:12:51.000 And he was asking, I think it was on.
00:12:53.000 Theo Vaughn, where he said, What is socialism?
00:12:56.000 He basically says, Where the government gives you everything you need.
00:13:01.000 That's their vision for the future.
00:13:03.000 The same political movement that cannot run the post office thinks that they are going to take care of you from cradle to grave. 0.99
00:13:09.000 This is not me throwing out cliches anymore.
00:13:12.000 This is actually what they're saying out loud. 0.77
00:13:15.000 Why this will never work.
00:13:16.000 Margie Thatcher, she gave us that line you eventually run out of other people's money.
00:13:20.000 It's true, but it also is because you run out of it quicker because it leads to malaise.
00:13:24.000 Throw up the GDP per capita graph between us.
00:13:28.000 And Canada.
00:13:29.000 Now, I am the $20 burrito guy.
00:13:31.000 I understand there are affordability issues because we print too much damn money and we spend too much money as it is, but we are still doing the best out of anybody in the West.
00:13:40.000 Look at this United States to Canada.
00:13:42.000 That is the big fork in the road there Trudeau versus Trump.
00:13:48.000 Okay?
00:13:48.000 Trudeau versus Trump.
00:13:49.000 Which way, Western man?
00:13:51.000 Do you want malaise?
00:13:52.000 Do you want an end of productivity?
00:13:54.000 And this is why it's so exciting to tell you this story today.
00:13:59.000 Because last night, what we saw from Elon Musk and the launch of the Roadster, which was the big news story of the night, was truly something spectacular, something that only pioneering, innovative entrepreneurs could accomplish.
00:14:14.000 The government could never do this, at least not efficiently.
00:14:19.000 And that is the flying car.
00:14:22.000 This actually happened.
00:14:24.000 Show SOT 6.
00:15:04.000 Well it worked Flying cars are real.
00:15:12.000 Yeah.
00:15:13.000 Well, you know, a friend of mine, Peter Thiel, once said that the future promised us flying cars, but instead we've got 140 characters.
00:15:20.000 Well, not anymore.
00:15:22.000 That's a good line.
00:15:23.000 I mean, it's such a perfect thing.
00:15:25.000 Just play it as B roll.
00:15:26.000 Play seven as B roll, what we're talking about here.
00:15:27.000 I mean, it's just such a perfect thing.
00:15:29.000 We were talking about this before the show that what stands out about Elon Musk at this point is he's kind of one of the only businessmen in America actively trying to build anything cool and exciting that you should try to build things in your country that eight year olds will think are awesome, eight year old boys will think are awesome.
00:15:44.000 Very few people do that.
00:15:45.000 And that Project 2029, they don't mention it in there.
00:15:48.000 But a thing that would happen with that Project 2029 is when the left gets power, they will make it a priority to destroy Elon Musk.
00:15:56.000 Because he's not one of them, because he's done things that have upset them.
00:15:59.000 They will try to destroy Tesla.
00:16:01.000 They will try to destroy SpaceX.
00:16:02.000 They will try to confiscate it.
00:16:04.000 They talk about these things.
00:16:05.000 Well, and here's what's interesting.
00:16:06.000 They consider him an enemy.
00:16:06.000 This is how powerful SpaceX has become, where it's now a geopolitical hot potato.
00:16:12.000 Ukraine is blaming SpaceX and Space Shield for, you know, They couldn't send their drones deeper into Russia or whatever.
00:16:21.000 And Elon said, well, talk to President Trump and the Department of War if you want.
00:16:25.000 But that's how powerful the technologies that he's developed are.
00:16:28.000 The U.S. government is going to sever all ties.
00:16:31.000 I can almost guarantee it.
00:16:32.000 Or so coerce him and strongman him that he won't want to do business with the federal government anymore.
00:16:37.000 That is what they're going to do.
00:16:38.000 They might imprison him, though.
00:16:39.000 They might imprison him.
00:16:40.000 They might find some sort of process, whatever.
00:16:43.000 And this guy's inventing flying cars with cold compressed air and suction technology where you can actually go upside down.
00:16:50.000 That is awesome.
00:16:52.000 And that is the power of having an economy and having a market system and a financial system undergirding the entire thing where we get to build cool things in this country.
00:17:04.000 This is still America.
00:17:05.000 You should be kissing the ground that you walk on, that you get to live in this beautiful country where things like this happen.
00:17:11.000 And the left will destroy it.
00:17:13.000 They are like a plague of locusts, they will come in and destroy every good thing that this country has.
00:17:19.000 Why?
00:17:20.000 Because they're riddled with grievance and resentment and jealousy.
00:17:24.000 And bitterness that they're not richer, more powerful, more influential than they are.
00:17:28.000 They want to destroy you.
00:17:29.000 They want to destroy this country.
00:17:31.000 Zero gratitude.
00:17:33.000 We can't let them.
00:17:34.000 And ultimately, the entire conversation comes down to a debate of ideas capitalism versus socialism, gratitude versus resentment.
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00:17:56.000 Followed by the same policies that fueled inflation before more spending, bigger deficits, and a weaker dollar.
00:18:01.000 We live through this already.
00:18:03.000 In June 2022, inflation was out of control and unchecked.
00:18:06.000 Now, the national debt is over $40 trillion, and Washington isn't slowing down.
00:18:11.000 What has gold done since 2022?
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00:18:45.000 I know I say it a lot, but I love, love Hillsdale.
00:18:50.000 They have the smartest people.
00:18:52.000 And Dr. Charles Steele is one of them.
00:18:54.000 And I, Doctor, welcome back to the show.
00:18:56.000 It's good to see you.
00:18:58.000 I heard you had a note for me on my News Nation thing where I was talking about the American dream and be grateful to live here.
00:19:06.000 And you had a note.
00:19:06.000 You said, if the American dream is dead for you, it's just because you stopped dreaming.
00:19:11.000 And I do think Gen Z has a unique set of challenges that makes it more challenging for young people.
00:19:18.000 I talk to a lot of them, but I fundamentally really agree with you. 1.00
00:19:21.000 If you show me if you have optimism about the future or pessimism, I can basically predict your next 20, 30 years.
00:19:28.000 So I think you're spot on.
00:19:30.000 Welcome back to the show, though.
00:19:32.000 Thank you.
00:19:32.000 I'm very happy to be here.
00:19:34.000 So listen, we've got the DSA, we've got Mamdani, El Syed.
00:19:38.000 They promise opportunity. 0.56
00:19:40.000 Dignity for all, you know, but they're underlying what they're talking about is a Marxist ideology.
00:19:46.000 And so it's been failed time and time again.
00:19:49.000 It's based on government control, government coercion, government seizing the means of production, rigging the game for one set of people against another.
00:19:58.000 Explain how you see this dynamic that is facing the country and, you know, why you think it's problematic.
00:20:06.000 Well, sure.
00:20:07.000 Let me talk first about the DSA and some of their ideas.
00:20:10.000 They really are Marxist.
00:20:12.000 Sometimes they will say that they're not, they say, oh, we're not really communists.
00:20:18.000 It's a bit puzzling.
00:20:18.000 Pick up their platform, their most recent platform, and read it and see what they talk about.
00:20:25.000 It begins by saying, imagine a world without capitalism, a day without capitalism.
00:20:30.000 And it begins by saying that everything is provided for people, including free transportation, free healthcare, free food, free housing, free education.
00:20:42.000 Everything, nothing is going to be provided by the government.
00:20:47.000 Now, that's been tried, of course, in places like the Soviet Union.
00:20:51.000 If the government provides everything for you, you are dependent of the government. 0.98
00:20:55.000 You are a serf.
00:20:57.000 You do what you're told, and that's the way it is.
00:21:00.000 There is no freedom in such a system.
00:21:03.000 Fundamentally, it doesn't work.
00:21:05.000 It doesn't work as far as material wealth and things, but more importantly, it's destructive of freedom.
00:21:10.000 It's spiritually destructive to live under such a system.
00:21:13.000 Because you are a serf, you're a slave.
00:21:16.000 And ultimately, there's no dignity in that.
00:21:20.000 They say that, you know, we're going to stop poverty.
00:21:22.000 You don't stop poverty that way.
00:21:24.000 You stop poverty by creating opportunity for people.
00:21:28.000 My point about the American dream is that really success begins with a mindset that the individual has to have.
00:21:35.000 You want to be successful, you've got to start, you've got to do it yourself.
00:21:40.000 You can't be a dependent, you've got to be self responsible.
00:21:43.000 And there's a great deal of I'm an economist, so people think that we're talking about just material wealth or something.
00:21:52.000 That's not it at all.
00:21:53.000 We're talking about human action.
00:21:55.000 And some of the most fundamental things are people's meaning of life.
00:22:00.000 And a meaningful life is one where you actually do things and accomplish things.
00:22:04.000 Oh, I totally agree.
00:22:05.000 There's so much about the socialist, Marxist ideology that just fundamentally doesn't work.
00:22:12.000 It is incompatible with human nature.
00:22:14.000 I mean, but not even, I would even go further.
00:22:17.000 I don't even think it's incompatible with human nature.
00:22:19.000 I think it indulges the worst.
00:22:21.000 Parts of human nature that it derives a lot from resentment.
00:22:25.000 That it derives from the fact that it's in all of us to be angry at people who have more than us or who seem better than us.
00:22:33.000 It's a real thing to be resentful of people who are more talented, more driven, more accomplished than you.
00:22:39.000 And you can respond to that positively or negatively.
00:22:41.000 Exactly.
00:22:42.000 But my point is that if everybody is not incentivized to produce more, the macro system will have less.
00:22:50.000 And then that's it.
00:22:51.000 And so.
00:22:52.000 I'm thinking in 30,000 foot terms, but you could think of a lot of sort of on the ground where the rubber meets the road, real life examples too.
00:23:00.000 But on the aggregate, if all of us are just sort of said, have the mindset of a bus driver on a public bus where we clock in and we clock out, and that's all we do, that's all, because that kind of is what their idea of human dignity is that nobody would have to work their fingers to the bone and they would have everything provided for them.
00:23:19.000 But the problem is that when you put that out into a macro level, the system does not have enough.
00:23:26.000 To meet all of those needs, it just will not work fundamentally.
00:23:30.000 I don't know if what I'm saying is making sense to you, Dr. Steele, but perhaps you could shed some light on what I'm grasping at here.
00:23:36.000 You're both actually making some sense here.
00:23:39.000 So, first of all, is socialism compatible with human nature?
00:23:45.000 Humans have a very complex nature.
00:23:48.000 And one of the things some people gravitate to socialism or think it's a good idea.
00:23:54.000 And so, I guess you could say, well, if people do it, it's part of their nature.
00:23:59.000 But there's something a little different.
00:24:00.000 There's envy and things like that, and that's a part of human nature.
00:24:04.000 A friend of mine, a retired philosophy professor, not from Hillsdale, pointed this out, and he's very concerned with the plight of poor people and things.
00:24:13.000 But he said that it isn't that the working poor that he knows are resentful of people who have wealth or have more than them, they're resentful of people who didn't earn it, who didn't get it fairly.
00:24:26.000 If they earned it fairly, said the people, you know.
00:24:29.000 Most people tend to say, well, you earned it.
00:24:32.000 You're wealthy because you earned it.
00:24:33.000 And that's entrepreneurship that puts people in those places.
00:24:37.000 If you got it through government privilege, that's a different thing.
00:24:39.000 And that causes a great deal of, of course, I think, deserved resentment.
00:24:45.000 But the thing that the socialists tend to cultivate is the feeling of victimhood, the feeling that people didn't earn their wealth, that nobody, that we don't, you know, if there are billionaires, somehow that's bad for everyone.
00:25:01.000 Everyone else because they have a lot.
00:25:03.000 They have a lot because they created a lot more for other people, and you get wealthy that way.
00:25:10.000 So they've made the world better for everyone else.
00:25:14.000 You create value, you earn profit.
00:25:16.000 Absolutely agree.
00:25:17.000 Go ahead.
00:25:17.000 We were just talking about Elon Musk, and it's hilarious because the left wants to crush him, destroy him, seize his wealth, basically do whatever they can to destroy his companies as well.
00:25:27.000 And this is coming from the same organization, or the same ideology, rather, that thinks that they.
00:25:32.000 Can run everything efficiently, but they can't run the post office.
00:25:35.000 They can't run the DMV.
00:25:36.000 They can't run public hospitals.
00:25:37.000 Okay, so this is something that isn't going to math up here.
00:25:41.000 But let me challenge you a little bit with some of the thoughts that our younger people are confronted with on college campuses that there are excesses in the free market, right?
00:25:52.000 There are industries that can somehow coalesce and, you know, they get through acquisition or whatever, and you get these monopolistic powers, right?
00:26:02.000 You get powers that could exceed the government.
00:26:04.000 In some ways, what is the proper role when it comes to interacting between the government and the market forces and private industry?
00:26:15.000 Well, I might challenge, first of all, some of the claims that are made about monopoly.
00:26:19.000 Please do.
00:26:20.000 I'm expressing what our kids are hearing.
00:26:22.000 Right.
00:26:22.000 I understand.
00:26:23.000 Yes, I understand.
00:26:25.000 But maybe we need to not just say, well, don't accept the opposition arguments at face value.
00:26:32.000 Yeah.
00:26:33.000 Right. 0.99
00:26:34.000 Don't allow, this is something people should always do, don't allow the other side to.
00:26:40.000 Frame the terms of debate because they will put you into a box where they will change the meaning of words, and then you find yourself trying to defend something that can't be defended from their perspective.
00:26:51.000 But, so for example, monopoly.
00:26:53.000 What is monopoly?
00:26:54.000 Monopoly is actually the case where a firm dominates a market, a particular market, particular industry, and reduces the amount of stuff that it makes.
00:27:06.000 Therefore, with a smaller amount of stuff being put on the market, the price will be higher, and they wield these market powers, monopoly power.
00:27:14.000 It is not the case where you have one large industry or one large firm or business in an industry.
00:27:20.000 That may not be.
00:27:21.000 A monopoly at all.
00:27:23.000 And a great example of this is SpaceX.
00:27:26.000 SpaceX last year did more than half of the launches of rockets into space for the entire world.
00:27:34.000 The rest of the world, including NASA, the Chinese, the Russians, everyone else.
00:27:39.000 And Rocket Lab.
00:27:41.000 And Rocket Lab and everyone else did less than half of what, or did less than half the launches in the world.
00:27:51.000 SpaceX actually put up 80% of the launches.
00:27:55.000 Tonnage, the mass that was put onto orbit last year.
00:28:01.000 They're not a monopoly.
00:28:02.000 They're just really, really effective and they have lowered the cost, not raised it.
00:28:07.000 Okay.
00:28:07.000 More.
00:28:08.000 But more so now.
00:28:10.000 Dr. Seale, I'm going back in my mind to kind of Teddy Roosevelt, trust busting.
00:28:14.000 Standard oil.
00:28:15.000 That was tobacco, that was meatpacking, Standard Oil, the railroads.
00:28:20.000 He determined that it was not in the best interest of the public at that time.
00:28:24.000 And Teddy is a guy that a lot of conservatives are looking at in a renewed way.
00:28:28.000 In this era, saying, are there lessons to glean from that when we're talking about the free market?
00:28:33.000 On some issues, they should not look to him, and Standard Oil is one.
00:28:36.000 Standard Oil, when it took over a market, actually reduced the prices and increased the amount of oil that went on the market.
00:28:43.000 They were reaping what we call in economics economies of scale.
00:28:48.000 By doing things on a large scale, they made it better for consumers.
00:28:51.000 And when the government intervened and broke that up, they made consumers worse off.
00:28:55.000 Okay, what about the other ones?
00:28:57.000 Meatpacking.
00:28:58.000 What about railroads?
00:29:00.000 Meatpacking was a Meatpacking is interesting because that was orchestrated by small packers who didn't like the competition, and it was an example of regulatory capture.
00:29:12.000 Railroads, the only railroad that did not go bankrupt was the Great Northern, James J. Hill, and the ones that were subsidized by the federal government and controlled by them all went bankrupt.
00:29:24.000 There should not be a great deal of government intervention in the market because it tends to skew things and create monopolies.
00:29:34.000 I want to talk a little bit about socialism, right?
00:29:36.000 Because it's a buzzword, right?
00:29:38.000 Because socialism, will you define socialism for us?
00:29:42.000 Because people say it a lot and don't know what it is.
00:29:44.000 And sometimes those people are me.
00:29:48.000 I'm so happy to be with those people right now.
00:29:52.000 Socialism to me, it means that you will have whatever you need to live a dignified life, and that it is the government's job to deliver on that.
00:30:04.000 Wow.
00:30:05.000 Whatever you need to live a dignified life.
00:30:09.000 I would love for him to define.
00:30:10.000 That's a very flexible definition.
00:30:11.000 I would love for him to define what he thinks is a dignified life for me because currently I get to define that for myself.
00:30:20.000 And Mr. Momdani, Mr. Ugandan Muslim socialistslash communists, doesn't. 0.89
00:30:27.000 And I'm really excited that he doesn't yet.
00:30:29.000 And, anyways, that's a very interesting definition, Dr. Steele.
00:30:33.000 When you hear him say that, and I do want to get back into trust busting.
00:30:36.000 But because it's all interrelated, because he wants to seize the means of production when he doesn't like it, when he doesn't like who it favors, when he doesn't like the outcomes of it.
00:30:47.000 But there is this, you know, I have so many questions for you guys.
00:30:51.000 Just respond to Mamdani first, and then I'm going to get into what we call common good conservatism.
00:30:56.000 Well, I wouldn't call what he was saying, I wouldn't say what he was saying was socialism, but I would say, yes, what you really need to live a dignified life is freedom.
00:31:07.000 And yes, the government should protect that for you.
00:31:11.000 I guess I found some common ground with Mamdani, and I'm astonished.
00:31:15.000 No, that was barely common ground.
00:31:18.000 Yeah, they were very brilliantly in a beautiful way.
00:31:21.000 Twisting things a little bit.
00:31:22.000 All right.
00:31:24.000 Actually, his point about socialism is that you cannot be a ward of the state and live a dignified life.
00:31:32.000 It just cannot happen.
00:31:33.000 That's a contradiction.
00:31:34.000 Yeah.
00:31:35.000 Amen.
00:31:35.000 So we're talking about trust busting.
00:31:37.000 You had some great historical knowledge to kind of, I guess, deconstruct some of my misperceptions of it or common misperceptions of what Teddy Roosevelt did.
00:31:47.000 All right.
00:31:48.000 But we have a concept called common good capitalism, right?
00:31:51.000 You're hearing it a lot, common good conservatism, where there is a propensity to look at economic outcomes and ask the question does this benefit our national security, our national interests, our American workers?
00:32:03.000 This is where tariffs, that debate comes in a lot.
00:32:07.000 And we have this whole thing about AI.
00:32:08.000 You know, is AI going to destroy us?
00:32:10.000 So these are the criticisms of unfettered free market capitalism.
00:32:15.000 And I don't know if you want to chime in here.
00:32:17.000 I was thinking just because we talked about.
00:32:20.000 Stuff in the past, but I think there's a widespread sense, certainly among young people, but really people of all ages.
00:32:25.000 It does seem with the AI age that's inaugurating, it just feels different from prior eras.
00:32:31.000 If we're going to talk about, for example, the power of large firms, I was reading something coming on the way in.
00:32:36.000 This is a guy on, I believe, Hacker News, so a tech related website.
00:32:41.000 I've been having a silent panic attack for the last three days.
00:32:44.000 I don't have anyone to talk to that would understand my concern.
00:32:47.000 I run a small audio company.
00:32:49.000 We make guitar pedals and audio effects.
00:32:51.000 And what he goes on to describe in his post is that with AI, It is possible for someone to basically completely dissect every single facet of every single product on his market now.
00:33:03.000 So, every single technical mode that has ever existed, like you actually can't go and like build your own better product because your opponent, your competitor could instantly figure out exactly what it is and just make it.
00:33:15.000 So, if you're already the largest manufacturer, for example, you can just out compete anyone.
00:33:20.000 And I feel like people are starting to wonder is that going to be the case for everything now?
00:33:25.000 That now, whoever owns the machines that can basically generate AI can just control everything.
00:33:31.000 Right.
00:33:31.000 Okay.
00:33:32.000 Yeah, I see your point.
00:33:33.000 So, these are the challenges to this idea of unfettered free market capitalism.
00:33:38.000 Basically, they're going to say we need socialism because we've built a machine that can just generate infinite intelligence and no one can compete with that.
00:33:46.000 And whoever, they talk about this where they have lingo in Silicon Valley that this is your last chance to escape the global underclass, as they call it, by getting among the people who own the robots, as they say.
00:33:58.000 I guess what would your response to that be?
00:34:03.000 It's a bit of an inside joke for me, but this time is different.
00:34:05.000 This is nothing, in one sense, this is nothing new.
00:34:09.000 This goes back to the original, the Luddites, saying that, well, now that we have the mechanical loom, there will be nothing for humans to do.
00:34:19.000 We're going to be replaced.
00:34:21.000 I don't think that's going to happen.
00:34:24.000 For a counter view to what you're hearing, I was interviewing a.
00:34:30.000 An expert that works for an AI company and they do a lot of AI artificial intelligence consulting.
00:34:38.000 And they do this for city governments and things, people who want to learn to use AI and need it to solve a problem.
00:34:44.000 She pointed out to me something pretty interesting because I said, You know, does this mean there'll be economies of scale and there'll just be a few big firms that run things, like what you're warning about?
00:34:54.000 She said, I don't really see it that way.
00:34:56.000 Right now, small mom and pops are at a disadvantage, in particular because of laws, regulations, and things like that, and they can't handle it.
00:35:05.000 Great example would be the practice of medicine.
00:35:08.000 There's basically no such thing anymore as an independent doctor.
00:35:13.000 Everybody has to be part of a very large practice because to do medicine, you have to have.
00:35:18.000 An IT staff, you have to have a legal staff, you have an accounting staff, and a single doctor can't handle it.
00:35:25.000 Maybe could handle it once that can be automated with AI.
00:35:29.000 And so, actually, this may free people to use their creative skills a great deal more.
00:35:36.000 I think that it is much more of a mindset thing that people just become fearful of advance and change.
00:35:44.000 I think I agree with you on that because they did the same thing as you said with the loom, but also the railroad and also the doctor.
00:35:51.000 And we've seen this time and time again the combustible engine.
00:35:55.000 And so far, we've managed to find jobs for everybody, or at least most of everybody.
00:36:00.000 But when we talk about government's role interacting with the free market, like I said, this common good, I don't love using that.
00:36:07.000 But the idea of directing capital flows so that they would better serve the national interest is that something that you're open minded to, right?
00:36:17.000 When it comes to COVID, we couldn't make vitamin C in the country or PPE or whatever.
00:36:23.000 Is that something that resonates with you, or do you still have issues with that?
00:36:27.000 It does not resonate.
00:36:28.000 Well, it mostly does not resonate with me.
00:36:31.000 One problem is that the people who typically talk about common good have their own personal definition of what common good is.
00:36:40.000 It's not really something that we all have in common.
00:36:43.000 It tends to be one person's vision for what is good.
00:36:48.000 I'm very skeptical of that.
00:36:50.000 It starts getting into a central planning mentality.
00:36:54.000 If you say, are there certain industries that we do need to preserve for purposes of defense and security, then it starts to make some sense.
00:37:03.000 And I have some things to say about how that might be done.
00:37:07.000 But I don't think it's having the government, I know that it's not having the government take over the economy and start directing capital because government is remarkably poor at that.
00:37:17.000 Yeah.
00:37:17.000 I think it's safe to say that the U.S. government, but governments in general, are the least efficient distributors.
00:37:24.000 Of capital that have ever existed in the history of humanity.
00:37:27.000 This is why guys like Elon Musk, we're champions of.
00:37:31.000 Dr. Steele, we're out of time.
00:37:32.000 This was really fun.
00:37:33.000 We have to keep this going, though, because these are the real central questions that young people are facing when it comes to questions of capitalism in the economy.
00:37:42.000 Thank you.
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00:39:16.000 Hour two is underway, and Blake is sitting next to me.
00:39:19.000 Yes.
00:39:20.000 Because we have a guest worthy of the entire process.
00:39:24.000 And that is Department of Homeland Security Secretary Mark Wayne Mullen, a personal friend and a great American.
00:39:31.000 And I'm I'm frustrated to tell you, it looks like he still finds time for the gym.
00:39:35.000 Yes.
00:39:35.000 Every morning.
00:39:36.000 And the man overseeing, let's just jump right into that.
00:39:39.000 The man who has overseen what we were touting yesterday, we went over the 20 promises President Trump made in the 24 campaign and how well he did on them.
00:39:48.000 And the first two were secure the border and have the largest deportation operation in American history.
00:39:54.000 17 out of 20 promises firmly kept.
00:39:57.000 That's crazy.
00:39:58.000 Here's some graphics for you if you want to look.
00:40:00.000 That is the Southwest border.
00:40:03.000 Encounters under President Trump.
00:40:05.000 They said it couldn't be done, and then you guys have done it.
00:40:08.000 Well, Biden said he needed Congress to act.
00:40:10.000 Yeah.
00:40:10.000 The American people said, no, we just need a new president.
00:40:12.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:40:13.000 Go to that, go to the next graph here because, you know, some of these, Danny knows what I'm talking about.
00:40:18.000 That's deportations.
00:40:19.000 I think the ICRS.
00:40:20.000 Yeah.
00:40:21.000 And this is great, too, because you see where you got hired on the job there, that little moment where you're, you know, reconfiguring everything.
00:40:29.000 And now look at those numbers.
00:40:31.000 Monthly records.
00:40:31.000 Like a rocket ship.
00:40:33.000 And then, I show the Cato one because this is actually my favorite one.
00:40:37.000 Did you know that Cato was going to be like your chief PR spokesperson?
00:40:42.000 No, I did.
00:40:43.000 I did.
00:40:43.000 It's been a month.
00:40:44.000 These are all immigrants. 1.00
00:40:46.000 Every day, the Cato Institute, a libertarian think tank, is putting out these whiny tweets that are like legal immigration is at the lowest level in ages. 1.00
00:40:54.000 They're not letting in refugees anymore.
00:40:56.000 You know, all we did right here is Joe Edlow with USCIS is a genius. 1.00
00:41:03.000 And unfortunately, out of all of my components, of 22 components, He probably has the highest death threats because he's a Jewish American. 0.76
00:41:12.000 And it's sad.
00:41:13.000 Oh, wait, so you're saying a Jewish American is behind this, that graph right there? 0.64
00:41:19.000 Yeah, this is what I'm talking about.
00:41:20.000 Well, he didn't make the graph, obviously.
00:41:22.000 Oh, I know, but Joe Edlow, when we sat down and talked, first of all, he looks like an attorney, he acts like an attorney, and I don't know if he is, but he missed his calling, but he is whip smart.
00:41:34.000 But he also knows immigration policy better than anybody that I have been around.
00:41:39.000 And he can quote the law and he sat down and talked to him.
00:41:42.000 He's like, Look, these are our loopholes that we've identified with these visas that's coming in, that these countries are taking advantage of, universities are taking advantage of, chain migration, businesses that are taking advantage of it, naturalizations, all this stuff.
00:42:03.000 And he says, This is what we can do to close these loopholes.
00:42:06.000 And I said, Why haven't they been closed?
00:42:07.000 He says, I just need authorization.
00:42:08.000 I said, Joe, do it.
00:42:09.000 So, I'd like to take credit for it.
00:42:11.000 It came to me.
00:42:12.000 No, you should take credit.
00:42:13.000 All we had to do was just authorize it.
00:42:17.000 It wasn't that policy had to be changed.
00:42:19.000 It just had to be enforced, which is why I go back to this all the time and I say, inside the Department of Homeland Security, we don't make the laws.
00:42:27.000 We enforce our nation's laws.
00:42:29.000 And we're not picking and choosing.
00:42:31.000 We're enforcing them across the board.
00:42:33.000 I mean, it was just such a farce that Biden and the Democrats ran with this for years this idea that America doesn't have the laws to allow it to protect itself from being invaded by unlimited forces.
00:42:44.000 We have a suicide pact because, you know, we're so divided.
00:42:47.000 Yeah.
00:42:47.000 So do you know what is the most frustrating thing that I dealt with the first few months I'm in office?
00:42:51.000 I don't deal with it now, but when I first came in as secretary, people started with no.
00:42:57.000 And not everybody, but a lot of these, especially your careers, I'm not saying anything bad about it because I'm telling you I have 270,000 patriots that work for me.
00:43:07.000 But careers are used to a certain way that's always been done.
00:43:11.000 And they always say, they would say, well, sir, we can't do this because.
00:43:15.000 And I'd stop and I'd say, is it statute or is it a rule?
00:43:20.000 A rule, we can change.
00:43:22.000 Statute, I can't.
00:43:24.000 A rule means we wrote and we created the bureaucracy.
00:43:27.000 If it's statute, we'll comply.
00:43:29.000 If it's a rule, we're going to change the rule and we're going to move.
00:43:33.000 And that's what we did.
00:43:34.000 So, when you go to that Cato graph on legal immigration, because, and listen, I'm going to say some things, you don't have to endorse them. 0.60
00:43:41.000 But for me, I've been raging against legal immigration. 0.84
00:43:45.000 I think we have too much.
00:43:46.000 I think there's too many loopholes.
00:43:47.000 We let in people that don't like us, all these things, right?
00:43:50.000 So, when I see this, I mean, I literally.
00:43:52.000 Stood up and started clapping.
00:43:54.000 I wanted to send a thank you note to the Cato Institute for putting in such a beautiful graph for us.
00:44:00.000 You know, 1.2 million green cards a year is what we were doing under Biden.
00:44:05.000 And, you know, that's the state of Montana every year.
00:44:07.000 That's the state of Arkansas every three years.
00:44:09.000 Just masses of people coming in.
00:44:11.000 Masses, masses. 0.70
00:44:13.000 And that's not including the refugees, the TPS. 1.00
00:44:16.000 Exactly.
00:44:17.000 So is that by statute or is that rule?
00:44:19.000 So do we have to have 1.2 or are you able, according to this graph, are you able to say, hey, Where there's rules that allow that we wrote that we can sort of interpret the way we need to to serve the interests of the country.
00:44:32.000 We don't interpret the way we need to, we just interpret it.
00:44:35.000 What we're doing, the laws were actually pretty tight.
00:44:38.000 In 1959, when a lot of this stuff was done, because if you think of true overhaul immigration enforcement, most of the laws we're dealing with today was written in 1959.
00:44:47.000 Now, people talk about 1983 underneath the Reagan administration.
00:44:51.000 That wasn't really laws, that was just really more of an executive order that the president worked with.
00:44:55.000 There was a law there, but that also led.
00:44:58.000 To the amnesty that we're all scared about.
00:45:03.000 But since then, people just laxed it.
00:45:05.000 They didn't enforce it fully to its intent.
00:45:07.000 What we do is we go back and we look at it.
00:45:09.000 What was the intent?
00:45:11.000 And what's the actual statute say?
00:45:14.000 And then we apply it.
00:45:16.000 We didn't have this mass immigration, this mass amount of people coming in during the 80s, during the 90s, during the 70s, during the 60s.
00:45:25.000 And mind you, during the 70s, we came out of the Vietnam War.
00:45:27.000 We had a Huge influx of the Asian population that came in.
00:45:31.000 After World War II, we had a huge influx of Asia, especially from China, that came into the United States.
00:45:37.000 We have a huge influx from all over Europe that came in, but we still didn't see the influx we're having today.
00:45:43.000 So, why is it so much larger now?
00:45:49.000 It's because we weren't actually looking at who we're bringing in the country and we had the authority to do that.
00:45:54.000 We wasn't actually using biometrics.
00:45:56.000 Now, back then, they didn't have biometrics, but they had other ways to look at it.
00:45:59.000 We do have that now.
00:46:00.000 We can find someone's background.
00:46:02.000 We can actually see their full intent.
00:46:04.000 We can see what their history is.
00:46:05.000 And one thing that we apply because of President Trump's leadership is are they going to be a contributor to the society or are we going to be taken care of in the rest of their life?
00:46:13.000 Right?
00:46:13.000 Do they have the ability to stand on their own, or are they going to be filing for government assistance from the first time they step in?
00:46:21.000 The public charges.
00:46:22.000 Simply applying that knocks down a load of individuals, right?
00:46:27.000 We want people to.
00:46:28.000 Speaking of knocking down loads of individuals, so we saw that chart.
00:46:31.000 You're getting record arrests.
00:46:33.000 Right.
00:46:34.000 Does DHS have a way of tracking and estimating the self deportation side of this?
00:46:40.000 Yes.
00:46:41.000 And how do they calculate it and how extensively?
00:46:43.000 I hate the word self deportation.
00:46:45.000 True.
00:46:45.000 Because self deportation means 90% of those individuals actually were in custody.
00:46:50.000 But when you go, after we process you and say, okay, you're going to the detention center to start the process, every detention center has iPads.
00:47:01.000 And we have about one iPad per about five to 10 individuals locked up.
00:47:07.000 And they can watch movies, they can contact their attorney, they can play games, they check it out like you do libraries, right?
00:47:14.000 But on the front of it, every time you hit the pad to light it up, There's a button that says self deport every time.
00:47:23.000 And it says, and it's smiley face.
00:47:24.000 You've heard about my bads.
00:47:26.000 I love this.
00:47:26.000 It's a smiley face.
00:47:27.000 Yes.
00:47:27.000 And it's orange.
00:47:29.000 And so it looks like a round smiley face, you know, like, you know, a happy face.
00:47:33.000 And it's like, want to get out of here?
00:47:34.000 And it says, hey, you want to go?
00:47:35.000 We'll pay you $3,000 and we'll put you on a plane as soon as you hit this button.
00:47:40.000 We'll start the process.
00:47:41.000 So they're sitting there. 0.99
00:47:42.000 You can imagine by week two, them sitting there and they're going, you know, this sucks. 0.95
00:47:46.000 I want to go home. 0.56
00:47:47.000 We want to help you go home.
00:47:48.000 And so that's where 90% of the self deportation.
00:47:51.000 Come from.
00:47:51.000 These aren't individuals that's walking across the border and saying, hey, bye, I'll see you later.
00:47:56.000 The rest of them are individuals that contacted us and said, hey, I want to go home.
00:48:00.000 Does that still apply? 0.98
00:48:00.000 I hope there's a larger population, though, of just, you know, some Guatemalan in the suburbs of Chicago that's like, I don't have my papers. 0.98
00:48:09.000 I'm just going to leave. 1.00
00:48:10.000 Or I'm getting on the CBP home app.
00:48:13.000 Well, that's the problem.
00:48:14.000 A lot of this is they don't have papers.
00:48:17.000 And so the country they're wanting to go to, we can't put them on a plane because remember, you got to have a passport.
00:48:22.000 So For you to get on an international flight, what do they do before you get on an international flight when you fly commercial right now?
00:48:26.000 Check your passports.
00:48:27.000 Check your passports, right?
00:48:28.000 A lot of these guys don't have passports.
00:48:30.000 They don't have documentations.
00:48:32.000 So, we almost 100% of the individuals that do leave, we have to provide, other than the ones going to Mexico, we have to work with that country they're going to to get documentations.
00:48:43.000 That usually takes a week or two.
00:48:46.000 That's something that I didn't realize until I got in this position, too.
00:48:50.000 So, self deportation doesn't mean you left on your own.
00:48:54.000 That just Matt, that you didn't go through the court system.
00:48:56.000 So, to be self deported costs us about $5,500 per person.
00:49:02.000 To go through the court system, it costs us $8,250 per person.
00:49:07.000 So, it saves us money to get to do this paperwork.
00:49:10.000 And so, I've actually been trying to change that word from self deportation to assisted deportation because that's really what it's about.
00:49:19.000 That's very Trumpian of you, right?
00:49:20.000 Super intelligence.
00:49:22.000 Yeah, there is no anything else.
00:49:25.000 But super intelligent.
00:49:25.000 I'm not even saying the other word.
00:49:27.000 The president made that very clear on his true social.
00:49:30.000 I just want to flag because there's so many.
00:49:32.000 We try to emphasize why these midterms matter.
00:49:34.000 It's not one step back that there's been huge progress and Democrats would love to undo this.
00:49:39.000 And there's a great, maybe you've even heard of this guy.
00:49:41.000 He's Prowler on X and he's like an account.
00:49:44.000 He has like a video game avatar, but all he does is post immigration wins from the administration.
00:49:48.000 This is one from literally last night.
00:49:51.000 It just says in Concord, California, a very left wing court, relief granted to aliens who request it has cratered from 30%.
00:50:00.000 Removal orders have more than tripled this year, hitting an all time high.
00:50:04.000 How are you getting the immigration courts to be much less of a bureaucratic hurdle than they used to be?
00:50:10.000 That is Stephen Miller working with DOJ, right?
00:50:14.000 Stephen Miller is a logistic guru.
00:50:17.000 If I was going to start up a company to do cargo or anything that's going to require logistics, I don't care if it's shipping, whatever it is, I'm bringing Stephen Miller with me.
00:50:29.000 He just sees it.
00:50:30.000 He sees three, four levels down.
00:50:33.000 And so every time we have a DOJ win and we get it in court, we are, We can apply that to the next case.
00:50:43.000 So it's kind of like the environmentalist underneath the sue and settle that started really heavy underneath the Obama era with environmentalists.
00:50:52.000 They would go in, they sue EPA, and then the EPA would settle, and it would create a court case that they would go back and then reapply it.
00:50:59.000 Yes, and then reapply it. 0.71
00:51:00.000 We do the same thing with immigration.
00:51:03.000 We have a rinse and repeat issue with immigration.
00:51:06.000 TPS is, we see the same thing over again, asylum, we see the same thing over again.
00:51:12.000 Different cases that we come in with false documentation, we see it.
00:51:17.000 So every win speeds it up.
00:51:20.000 However, we still have roughly, I'm using a rough number here, but we have roughly 80,000 people right now in detention that is waiting to be deported, but we're waiting on either the country to accept them, paperwork to come in, or the court cases.
00:51:36.000 And we are 1,500 judges behind.
00:51:40.000 DOJ, once again, is working with us to help eliminate that, but every time we win a Court case, which is kind of funny because we got these liberal groups that sue us all the time.
00:51:50.000 We win almost every one of these cases because we have law on our side.
00:51:54.000 You can't, like I said, I'm going to repeat myself.
00:51:57.000 I don't make the laws, I enforce the laws.
00:51:59.000 So when we're enforcing the laws, pretty cut and dry.
00:52:02.000 So I don't care how liberal the judge is, when we set it in front of them, they have to read and interpret the law the same way we do.
00:52:07.000 And so every time they sue us, we get a win.
00:52:11.000 They actually speed up the deportation process.
00:52:13.000 That's great.
00:52:13.000 Yeah.
00:52:14.000 Yeah.
00:52:14.000 So one of the other things that I think you've done a phenomenal job on is.
00:52:19.000 You know, this protest movement that erupted in Minneapolis with the surge there.
00:52:24.000 And we haven't seen it as bad.
00:52:26.000 I mean, obviously, they saw a model they want to rinse and repeat, right?
00:52:30.000 That's exactly what they want to do.
00:52:32.000 So they want that, right?
00:52:33.000 They tried it in New York.
00:52:34.000 They tried it in New York.
00:52:35.000 That's exactly what I was about to get to.
00:52:36.000 So you had this story a New York PD detective was ambushed and stabbed seven to ten times.
00:52:43.000 I'm seeing two different numbers.
00:52:44.000 Seven.
00:52:45.000 By two illegals from the Dominican Republic.
00:52:48.000 Then, in that same kind of Time frame, another illegal from the DR, Oscar Delgall, this was the one they tried to protest on, was shot after he tried to ram ICE officers and flee.
00:52:58.000 This is crazy.
00:52:59.000 His rap sheet includes robbery, assault, grand larceny.
00:53:03.000 This did not stop some of the hardcore guys from trying to protest what happened there.
00:53:07.000 Weapons violation, gang affiliation. 0.99
00:53:10.000 This guy's crazy.
00:53:11.000 And actually, I love it because Bruce Blakeman's actually using this against Kathy Hochul in the debates.
00:53:16.000 16,070 ICE detainers in New York alone.
00:53:21.000 These people have been charged or convicted of 52,503 crimes. 1.00
00:53:27.000 You have 16,000 foreigners that should not be here. 1.00
00:53:30.000 They are legals that you guys are trying, you're begging them, give us these people. 1.00
00:53:35.000 And they're convicted of 52,000 crimes, and Kathy Hochul's defending keeping them in her city.
00:53:41.000 Ha!
00:53:42.000 It's maddening because it's so obvious to people like you and me that this does not make your people safer.
00:53:47.000 This does not make New York better.
00:53:48.000 It makes it weaker, it makes it more crime riddled.
00:53:51.000 How is that process going?
00:53:53.000 Because I know that was one of your big pushes to say, hey, just cooperate with us.
00:53:58.000 If you don't like the raids, you don't like a big group of 12 dudes coming in trying to arrest one person because you need the defense, you need the security, the backup, because that's dangerous.
00:54:07.000 It's way safer to do it at the prison level, at the jail level.
00:54:10.000 How's that effort going?
00:54:11.000 Well, Oscar, let's use Oscar for example.
00:54:15.000 He has only been in the country three years, and he had that long of a rap sheet.
00:54:18.000 He was arrested when he first got to the country in 23 on criminal charges.
00:54:23.000 He's been on probation for three years, and he's been arrested multiple times, and New York City kept releasing him.
00:54:29.000 Just think about this.
00:54:30.000 They threw a big fit, the mayor threw a big fit about us going and apprehending him, but we're like, well, wait a second.
00:54:35.000 We had a detainer on him.
00:54:37.000 If you would have just handed him to us, we wouldn't have been in the neighborhood.
00:54:40.000 And then this same neighborhood in the Bronx, Was in approximate areas where this individual that was stabbed seven times, NYPD officer was stabbed seven times in the Bronx by also two individuals from the Dominican Republic that had the same exact rap sheet, not exact, but same lengthy rap sheet as Oscar did.
00:54:59.000 And we also had a detainer on one of those individuals. 0.74
00:55:01.000 If they would just release these guys to our custody and allow us to ship them out, they're illegals, right? 1.00
00:55:07.000 It's not like they're LPRs. 0.99
00:55:09.000 It's not like they had a visa.
00:55:10.000 Even if they did, by the way, it would be revoked.
00:55:12.000 But they didn't have any legal status when they were arrested to begin with.
00:55:16.000 So this isn't even like should be controversial.
00:55:19.000 Hand them to us.
00:55:20.000 Think of how many criminals we get off the streets.
00:55:22.000 President Trump said this very clearly 2% of the population creates 90% of the crime. 1.00
00:55:26.000 It's so true. 0.97
00:55:27.000 2%.
00:55:27.000 Now, if you think about the 20 million plus individuals that came over during the Biden administration and how many of those are gangbangers, I mean, just that, just since President Trump's been in office, we've arrested 2,268 terrorists that were released into this country underneath the Biden administration.
00:55:43.000 Now, these aren't individuals.
00:55:45.000 That were on a watch list.
00:55:47.000 These were terrorists that we were looking for, and they were inside our country that were released or snuck into the country under the Biden mission.
00:55:55.000 2,260 people just came back in power.
00:55:58.000 It really is like, and the obstacles you face from New York, California, like the only way you can describe it is they literally want the worst criminals to be in the United States.
00:56:08.000 So let's think about this.
00:56:09.000 This is something that if you get on your phone and you ask Chat GPT, or is it GTP?
00:56:16.000 I don't think it's GPT.
00:56:18.000 If you ask it, If you ask it, how do you change a red state to blue?
00:56:24.000 It'll tell you that you got to change the demographics.
00:56:27.000 If you go in there, unless they've changed this, because I use this example all the time.
00:56:32.000 And if you also change it, how do you change a democracy to a socialist?
00:56:37.000 It also says change the demographics.
00:56:41.000 I want to just say this.
00:56:42.000 I went to Claude and I said, how do you change a red state to blue?
00:56:45.000 The very first bullet thing demographics and migration.
00:56:48.000 There you go.
00:56:49.000 Right.
00:56:50.000 So if you're going to.
00:56:51.000 That's it.
00:56:53.000 Please put this on social.
00:56:55.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:56:55.000 So if you're going to change our country, you have to change the demographics. 0.99
00:57:00.000 And if you're going to take us from a republic to a socialist country, you have to create chaos.
00:57:07.000 And to create chaos, it's because you can say, hey, look, what you have isn't working.
00:57:11.000 You need another form of government.
00:57:13.000 So therefore, a socialist, we're going to take care of it for you.
00:57:16.000 And then you go from socialist to communism.
00:57:18.000 And then, by the way, it's failed too.
00:57:20.000 And you try to come back and reclaim your democracy.
00:57:23.000 That's their whole goal.
00:57:24.000 That's why this whole open border, 20 million plus individuals come into the country wanting to legalize them, wanting amnesty, because they know they can change the demographics of it.
00:57:34.000 And if you have the criminals that come in, it creates chaos on your streets.
00:57:37.000 Therefore, they can say, hey, look, what you have isn't working.
00:57:40.000 If you defund the police, if you try to, what, civilian arrest?
00:57:47.000 Yes, civilian.
00:57:49.000 They want to, the mayor of Chicago just came out with a press conference.
00:57:51.000 I read it yesterday that he's going to take portions of the police to help balance their budget.
00:57:56.000 Yes. 0.89
00:57:57.000 To change it to a civilian population.
00:57:59.000 Yeah, it's almost like social workers on your door.
00:58:01.000 And you're going, no, that doesn't work because if we don't enforce our nation's laws, we become a lawless nation.
00:58:06.000 If you become a lawless nation, then you start having a failed state.
00:58:09.000 When you start having a failed state, then you start looking for a different form of government.
00:58:12.000 Therefore, you have socialism.
00:58:13.000 That's what I think they're playing with.
00:58:14.000 Everything's downstream.
00:58:15.000 I was reading about a very historic restaurant business in Los Angeles, it's basically saying it's going out of business because they can't afford power bills.
00:58:22.000 But another facet of that is because California is such a lawless anarchy on immigration and everything else, for example, every legal restaurant in LA is getting destroyed.
00:58:34.000 Because they have illegal food trucks everywhere.
00:58:36.000 The government brags about this, and they just openly say, We're not going to enforce any of our health laws, any of our location laws, any of our parking laws, any of our disability laws.
00:58:45.000 All those laws that make it so impossible to be a legal citizen business owner in LA do not apply if you're an illegal immigrant who wants to just run an illegal food truck.
00:58:54.000 And keep in mind, the Democrats sold sanctuary cities and sanctuary states as humane because they're doing it for these poor illegals that are needing a place to have safe haven. 0.54
00:59:04.000 Now, what you're seeing is a whole ushering in.
00:59:08.000 Of other illicit activities.
00:59:10.000 I mean, you have the safe haven that these cities and these states create is you have child molesters.
00:59:17.000 So you have predators that are running wild.
00:59:19.000 You have rapists.
00:59:20.000 You have murderers. 0.96
00:59:22.000 Just in New York City right now in detention, we have over 250 illegals that murdered somebody. 0.96
00:59:28.000 That's 250 Americans that should have been alive today because they're murdered.
00:59:32.000 Yeah, I'm just saying in New York.
00:59:33.000 No, I know.
00:59:34.000 I'm just saying they could have murdered two or three people.
00:59:35.000 Yeah, could have been.
00:59:36.000 But I'm just using a simple number.
00:59:38.000 Number, you start looking at what all comes out of this the drug activity that flows out of these cities and goes into other parts of the country that aren't sanctuary cities.
00:59:49.000 It all starts because of their lack of enforcement of just our nation's laws or their own laws.
00:59:55.000 Right.
00:59:55.000 Well, and you know, you talk about humane.
00:59:58.000 I hate when they use the word humane because it's anything but.
01:00:00.000 It's not humane.
01:00:01.000 It was 450,000 migrant children that they just lost, and you're tracking them down right now.
01:00:07.000 How many of them were raped?
01:00:08.000 And the last.
01:00:09.000 In the last two weeks, we found 3,300 kids out of the 450.
01:00:14.000 So, out of the 450,000 kids, we're down to, we found 100 and just under 100 or just over 160,000.
01:00:22.000 The problem is, a bunch of them are aging out.
01:00:24.000 And when they age out, meaning they get to 18, whole nother issue about trying to find them.
01:00:32.000 That's a, and it's sad because once you hit 18, you become adult, it's, there's different rules that apply.
01:00:39.000 Especially for us, states, their human services agencies don't work with us.
01:00:45.000 Not like the blue states were doing that, anyways.
01:00:48.000 But we found just in Houston a few weeks ago a 12 year old that was zip tied, hand zip tied, on the side of the street that was running that had escaped.
01:01:00.000 She had been trafficked for years.
01:01:02.000 This was just a few weeks ago.
01:01:04.000 12 year old. 0.80
01:01:05.000 She had been raped for years.
01:01:08.000 What's so evil about this? 0.95
01:01:10.000 And by the way, she was an immigrant too.
01:01:13.000 Well, I say immigrant, she was trafficked.
01:01:15.000 Yeah.
01:01:15.000 So this is what's so infuriating about this.
01:01:17.000 Basically, you know, we're having this whole affordability debate, which is not really your bailiwick these days.
01:01:22.000 It was when you were a senator.
01:01:23.000 But, you know, and the Democrats, their whole plan is they say, well, we're going to make things affordable again and gas prices.
01:01:30.000 It's like, listen, okay, you guys closed down the refineries.
01:01:32.000 You guys wanted high gas prices to usher in the EV revolution in the first place.
01:01:37.000 But when you talk about affordability, their whole plan is to say, we're going to tax basically native born Americans. 1.00
01:01:44.000 To then hand out welfare checks to all these third worlders that we bring in, this whole millions and millions and millions of people are just going to keep coming in because they want to replace the demographics so that they can take everything in a new direction, burn it down, destroy our institutions, destroy the republic. 0.99
01:02:00.000 Anyways, the point is that is the whole process. 1.00
01:02:04.000 That's the whole project.
01:02:05.000 And that's why you represent a ground zero in their fight.
01:02:09.000 That's why they call ICE the Gestapo.
01:02:11.000 That's why they are so hell bent on destroying and obstructing what you're doing because they know that if they can replace the population, then they're going to be successful in their project eventually.
01:02:23.000 Yeah, but let's talk about affordability because it actually affects us a little bit.
01:02:27.000 Every city that has worked with us with immigration policy, now, mind you, the left will say if you come in and you take all of our laborers, You know, prices are going to skyrocket.
01:02:36.000 Let me tell you what's happened in the cities that's cooperated.
01:02:38.000 When we went in and we've done strong law enforcement, immigration law enforcement, working with locals, meaning they're working part of the 287G program, they do most of the work.
01:02:46.000 We just are transporting at that point.
01:02:48.000 Six percent drop in housing prices.
01:02:51.000 Rents, yeah, and houses.
01:02:52.000 Six percent.
01:02:53.000 Why? 0.98
01:02:53.000 Because the illegal population is taking up so much of the housing. 0.98
01:02:58.000 Six percent drop on the affordability. 0.99
01:03:01.000 Now, that's your base, right?
01:03:03.000 You got to have a place to live, you got to have a place to house.
01:03:06.000 And then you see job markets.
01:03:08.000 Start increasing.
01:03:09.000 You're not seeing the workload stop.
01:03:11.000 You're just seeing wages increase.
01:03:13.000 And you're not seeing prices go up because people are still competing for the job because guess what?
01:03:18.000 We're not competing against the illegal businesses anymore.
01:03:20.000 Now people are competing for the job that's out there and they're paying actual wage that needs to be paid for that skilled labor.
01:03:29.000 Well, I saw a story out of like Southern Texas where a bunch of these small business owners, whether it was like car tinting, putting wraps on cars, car stereos, all the The Americans got pushed out of business because once the illegal flood came in, those were the first jobs they took.
01:03:43.000 Trucking.
01:03:44.000 Yeah, trucking.
01:03:44.000 Look at CDL when they were putting no name given on CDLs and putting all these illegals on the streets.
01:03:49.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:03:49.000 I mean, listen, you guys are doing hero's work, and we have so little time, and I could talk to you forever about this. 1.00
01:03:54.000 I just want to shout that out.
01:03:55.000 I checked, and of course, road deaths are also going down in the United States right now.
01:03:59.000 I'm not going to mention that.
01:04:00.000 Now, I don't want to say this.
01:04:02.000 You guys keep saying the work I'm doing.
01:04:04.000 I just empowered the men and women that work for me to do their job.
01:04:08.000 That's what a good business circus did not do.
01:04:11.000 But they are doing the job.
01:04:13.000 I would just Came from a couple of facilities here, and everywhere I go, I say, Look, I walked into an agency that had been shut down for 40 plus days.
01:04:19.000 I heard 270,000 patriots.
01:04:23.000 I have other cabinet members that say, Our agency is full of bureaucracy and careers.
01:04:29.000 I walk into an agency that had been tested.
01:04:31.000 They didn't quit doing their job.
01:04:33.000 They didn't quit protecting the homeland.
01:04:35.000 They didn't walk off the job.
01:04:36.000 They weren't doing remote working.
01:04:38.000 They were showing up every single day for free, and I get to be part of that.
01:04:43.000 And so, those men and women, all they need to say is go do your job.
01:04:46.000 And they've done it.
01:04:47.000 We're going to do rapid fire here because I only got you for like three more minutes here. 1.00
01:04:51.000 Sounds like my wife when I come home. 0.99
01:04:52.000 All right.
01:04:52.000 So I do want to give you a shout out.
01:04:54.000 Under President Trump and Secretary Mullen, DHS announces lowest fiscal year border crossings in American history.
01:04:59.000 So shout out.
01:05:00.000 That just came out today.
01:05:01.000 17 months, zero releases.
01:05:03.000 It's unbelievable.
01:05:04.000 It's fantastic.
01:05:05.000 It's just unbelievable.
01:05:07.000 Okay.
01:05:08.000 We've seen that graph.
01:05:09.000 Danny, if you can put up the graph again of the deportations, the ICE arrests, it's going up.
01:05:14.000 How high could it go?
01:05:15.000 Is it going to keep going up or are we kind of hitting.
01:05:18.000 Because at some point it becomes really hard to find these people and arrest them.
01:05:22.000 But look at that ramp up.
01:05:24.000 Another congrats.
01:05:26.000 So I think we can hold the level for a little while.
01:05:31.000 After the election, I think you're going to see, especially if the elections go well for Republicans.
01:05:36.000 All right.
01:05:36.000 If elections go well for Republicans, you're going to see elected officials, statewide elected officials, governors, and stuff start saying they're going to need to cooperate with us.
01:05:45.000 And they're going to start releasing these individuals.
01:05:47.000 The more we talk about detainers and about who these people are that they're turning back on the streets, the more pressure.
01:05:52.000 Applies to the individual.
01:05:54.000 So I think it'll stay there for a little bit.
01:05:56.000 If it goes well, another reason to get out and vote because we got to keep putting pressures on these maniacs to keep cooperating because we can get that number.
01:06:02.000 It'd be so cool if we could get 100,000.
01:06:04.000 That would be a great, that would be a huge accomplishment.
01:06:06.000 But you're doing great work here, and it's never been done in our nation's history. 1.00
01:06:09.000 Okay, let's talk about H 1Bs. 0.98
01:06:11.000 100,000 what?
01:06:13.000 Arrests.
01:06:14.000 It's just a nice round number.
01:06:16.000 It would be such a headline.
01:06:17.000 It would be a headline.
01:06:18.000 It would be a headline.
01:06:19.000 It would be tough.
01:06:21.000 And I hate putting quotas because we are serving warrants on the worst of the worst.
01:06:25.000 What happens when we serve the warrants?
01:06:27.000 Is we find about three, it was four.
01:06:29.000 Now we're finding about three what we call collateral criminals.
01:06:32.000 The one we're serving warrants, they're never by themselves.
01:06:34.000 They always hang out with other illegals.
01:06:36.000 And so by being focused on just serving the warrants of the worst of the worst, we're also picking up other illegals.
01:06:42.000 And by the way, you're still here legally.
01:06:43.000 Okay, good.
01:06:44.000 It doesn't matter.
01:06:45.000 Okay, because the worst of the worst, there's a big debate on the.
01:06:47.000 I know you know all about it.
01:06:48.000 Because we're part of the all of them must go, but I understand you got a political.
01:06:53.000 No, you got it.
01:06:54.000 Actually, when I serve the warrant on the worst of the worst, I'm actually increasing.
01:06:58.000 That's why you're seeing that increasing of the rest.
01:07:00.000 Because now every place we go is targeted.
01:07:02.000 So every time we go out, every time my ERO agents go out, we're making multiple arrests.
01:07:08.000 I love it.
01:07:08.000 Yeah.
01:07:09.000 I love it. 0.99
01:07:09.000 So, all right, let's go into H1Bs. 0.99
01:07:12.000 There was this big story Microsoft got banned from the PERM program.
01:07:16.000 And then there's the OPTs.
01:07:18.000 So these are legal categories, but they're rife with fraud, they're rife with abuse.
01:07:23.000 Just speak to some of the work you're doing.
01:07:25.000 So I want to talk about Microsoft.
01:07:28.000 Vice President JD Vance, he is.
01:07:32.000 You're talking about a tiger after a piece of steak.
01:07:35.000 That man is laser focused on fraud.
01:07:39.000 And we're part of it, right?
01:07:41.000 We're part of the task force he's put together.
01:07:43.000 But he was the one that first saw this.
01:07:45.000 Now, can you imagine going after Microsoft?
01:07:48.000 Big company, right?
01:07:49.000 I would say most people don't have the guts to do that.
01:07:53.000 He didn't even back down.
01:07:54.000 He's like, this is obvious.
01:07:56.000 They laid off 6,000 Americans.
01:07:59.000 And at the same time, they brought in more than that. 0.50
01:08:01.000 9,000.
01:08:02.000 Yes, through the H 1B visas.
01:08:06.000 And so his leadership has given us cover to be able to do that because that can get political.
01:08:12.000 He doesn't see it that way.
01:08:14.000 And that's President Trump's leadership, right?
01:08:16.000 That comes from the top down.
01:08:18.000 And so the fraud is where we go to with Joe Edlo when I first started this conversation.
01:08:25.000 He is pulling every one of those levers to close every one of those loopholes.
01:08:29.000 That's why you see those numbers continuously drop.
01:08:32.000 What we're doing is just going straight to the intent of the law.
01:08:37.000 What is.
01:08:38.000 Is the statue?
01:08:39.000 I can't repeat this enough.
01:08:41.000 I am not picking and choosing the laws, I'm enforcing our laws across the board.
01:08:47.000 It's a novel concept, right?
01:08:49.000 All right, so I'm gonna give you a hard one.
01:08:52.000 I'm sorry if I you can defer to the DOJ.
01:08:54.000 I have three teenage girls at home, there's no such thing as hard for me.
01:08:57.000 All right, so Ilhan Omar, yes, if you have to defer to the DOJ, I understand, but what can you tell us anything?
01:09:09.000 Now, DOJ couldn't tell you anything either.
01:09:11.000 Listen, all.
01:09:13.000 There's nothing political about this.
01:09:15.000 I go back to repeat myself, right?
01:09:18.000 We're enforcing our laws across the board.
01:09:20.000 I don't care who it is, we're enforcing our laws.
01:09:22.000 So, all I can say is one, yes, we served a warrant.
01:09:28.000 I can't say that it was on a specific person or not, but she wasn't or it wasn't the only place we served the warrant.
01:09:35.000 There were multiple other warrants served on that same day.
01:09:38.000 We had a judge sign it, and we expect to be able to take the case to a grand jury.
01:09:43.000 But I will tell you, we wouldn't move forward, and President Trump didn't want to move forward either unless we knew that it couldn't be politically driven.
01:09:50.000 Now, they want to try making it political driven.
01:09:52.000 This individual wants to try to make it about themselves.
01:09:58.000 This was about enforcing, once again, our nation's laws.
01:10:01.000 And it's a strong case.
01:10:02.000 Hypothetical.
01:10:03.000 Oh, that's good to hear.
01:10:05.000 Hypothetical moving forward. 0.91
01:10:07.000 If a foreign warlord from a failed state that is part of a genocidal government that gets displaced and has a daughter and wants to move to America as a refugee, is that something that would be able to happen again? 0.78
01:10:22.000 Let's just say if someone comes in and claims. 0.77
01:10:27.000 That fills out their paperwork illegally, and they claim that they are this person and this is their background.
01:10:34.000 And then underneath that individual, a lot of other people come in.
01:10:37.000 And I'm just saying, hypothetically, across a whole bunch of cases that's out there, then that can be considered a RICO case, right?
01:10:43.000 Because there was conspiracy that was to deceive the American government, and therefore everything else that came in with it could then be looked at as the same case.
01:10:53.000 And so, in any case like that, and this isn't, I mean, we've had multiple cases like that where people.
01:10:59.000 Yeah, where people come in and they lie, and then we can go all the way back through.
01:11:03.000 Good thing about something like a case like that is when it is a RICO case, the statute of limitations on things don't apply in most cases.
01:11:14.000 A few things they do, but in most cases, they don't.
01:11:17.000 That's why, with HSI, which is a Homeland Security investigation, which is, man, those guys are studs, by the way.
01:11:23.000 They're probably the best three letter agency that most Americans don't know about.
01:11:28.000 That's why they worked very closely with DOJ.
01:11:32.000 Through the whole process to make sure that what we are doing in this case is taking all the news, that we were 100% doing it and checking all the boxes that they needed to build the strongest case possible because a law we perceive was broken and our laws were broken, and we're enforcing once again our nation's laws.
01:12:00.000 And I'm pretty sure I'm out of time here.
01:12:03.000 Yeah.
01:12:03.000 I'm out of time.
01:12:04.000 I'm getting the yank.
01:12:05.000 No, you can just do it.
01:12:06.000 Thank you so much.
01:12:09.000 I just want to drive home that point, which is this is a state that has had a massive open border for ages.
01:12:16.000 It has transformed this state over time.
01:12:18.000 And you have literally had record setting results in terms of undoing the damage that so many bad governments have done to this country.
01:12:28.000 I say this all the time, and I mean it.
01:12:30.000 I had the best cabinet position in the entire cabinet.
01:12:34.000 President Trump has given me an opportunity to protect the nation.
01:12:38.000 And it's DOW, they get to go fight foreign wars.
01:12:42.000 We fight the war every day from the Coast Guard all the way in.
01:12:46.000 We take care of this land.
01:12:48.000 And I think, wow, what an opportunity.
01:12:51.000 I mean it when I say I am lucky.
01:12:53.000 I am blessed to be able to be in this position and be surrounded by 270,000 true patriots.
01:12:59.000 And we're in the boat.
01:13:01.000 We got the oars.
01:13:02.000 We're pulling the same direction.
01:13:03.000 And we have President Trump who is cheering us on, who gives us the resources and the tools we need.
01:13:10.000 And by the way, Supports us by just simply saying it's not political, we're making America great by enforcing our nation's laws.
01:13:18.000 That's what national security is all about.
01:13:20.000 And I'm like, hey man, let's go.
01:13:21.000 Well, I just want to commend you, as Blake said, you had probably the best Senate job at you know, a state that I think didn't have one blue county in it, Oklahoma.
01:13:32.000 And I think we only had like one one, um, uh, wood city, yeah, not even a city.
01:13:38.000 I think we had like one polling place that went blue.
01:13:40.000 I don't know.
01:13:41.000 So you had job security, you had everything, most of what you imagine DC.
01:13:45.000 Political leaders want, and you gave that up for one of the toughest jobs.
01:13:49.000 I know you're enjoying it because you're a man of great energy.
01:13:52.000 You wake up early, you work out, you stay up late.
01:13:55.000 Every time, I'm sure thousands of people are reaching out to you, and you have great energy.
01:14:00.000 That's what this job needs.
01:14:02.000 And so, anyways, God bless you.
01:14:04.000 We have your back.
01:14:05.000 You did it for your country, and you're showing incredible results.
01:14:09.000 And I want the base, I want the grassroots to understand just how much is getting done because it's unprecedented.
01:14:16.000 It's historic.
01:14:17.000 Everybody wants 10 million out in a month in a blink, it doesn't work that way.
01:14:21.000 But you guys are making it more and more and more efficient.
01:14:24.000 So God bless you.
01:14:25.000 Thank you.
01:14:25.000 If you guys have time, you ought to go look at your deportation flights that happen just outside of Phoenix every day.
01:14:31.000 Oh, you were at the border here, too.
01:14:32.000 I was, but this morning I was looking at deportation flights that were going out.
01:14:35.000 50% of the people on that plane had committed a serious crime.
01:14:40.000 Seriously.
01:14:40.000 And they were on that plane.
01:14:41.000 And one guy gave me a sloop, but it was with the middle finger as he's getting on the plane.
01:14:44.000 I took it as, yay, okay.
01:14:46.000 Hope I don't see you again, but if you do, you're going to get back on the plane.
01:14:48.000 Exactly.
01:14:50.000 Well, that's awesome.
01:14:51.000 I didn't realize they were coming out of.
01:14:52.000 Sky Harbor.
01:14:53.000 Well, we have multiple locations across the country.
01:14:57.000 But this is one of our hubs in Louisiana, Alexandria.
01:15:01.000 I think, no, is it Alexandria, Louisiana?
01:15:05.000 That's one of our main hubs.
01:15:07.000 This is one of our main hubs, too.
01:15:08.000 Yeah.
01:15:09.000 Several flights are looking down here, by the way.
01:15:10.000 Looking great.
01:15:11.000 The border where I was at yesterday, just in that sector where I was at, over 500,000 known gotaways came across it during the Biden administration.
01:15:21.000 Now it's got a big wall.
01:15:22.000 Yes.
01:15:23.000 That's not including the tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands that we arrested.
01:15:28.000 Now they're encountering almost no one because of the wall there.
01:15:31.000 It's pretty remarkable.
01:15:32.000 There was that whole.
01:15:33.000 Gosh, I'm so sorry, guys.
01:15:35.000 I'm good.
01:15:36.000 I know, but they got rid of that tree just recently.
01:15:40.000 Our team went down there, Frontlines, and all these Antifa protesters were parking on the land right next to the easement.
01:15:47.000 And then the tree comes down, and they're screaming.
01:15:52.000 I checked our Phoenix deportation flights, and one of the most recent stories is a Ugandan got federal charges after biting an ICE agent. 1.00
01:15:58.000 Oh, good for you. 1.00
01:15:59.000 While during the flight, I was.
01:16:00.000 Actually, tell me about that one.
01:16:01.000 I got on the plane with them as they were leaving, and so I walked on the plane just to kind of wave goodbye to them.
01:16:06.000 Actually, I got on there to shake off my bad.
01:16:07.000 Bad people are furious.
01:16:08.000 They're really angry.
01:16:10.000 But one more spot to tell you where that spot is, where we were at.
01:16:14.000 If you remember during the Biden administration when all the videos and stories are going out about them selling the wall sections for pennies on the dollar, that's where it was at.
01:16:23.000 Furious.
01:16:24.000 That's where it was at.
01:16:25.000 That was the spot.
01:16:26.000 It's crazy to me.
01:16:27.000 It's such a big win because.
01:16:29.000 Trump 1.0, they were freaking out.
01:16:31.000 We can't afford a border wall.
01:16:32.000 We can't afford it.
01:16:33.000 I mean, that was their biggest problem.
01:16:34.000 We can't afford not to have one.
01:16:36.000 The border wall is racist.
01:16:37.000 The border wall is too expensive.
01:16:40.000 And now they don't even fight it.
01:16:41.000 No.
01:16:42.000 Because we've had so many wins on this front because we're in the right.
01:16:45.000 These ideas make sense.
01:16:46.000 It's common sense.
01:16:47.000 It's an 80 20 issue when you're in the right.
01:16:49.000 And we see crime just dropping.
01:16:50.000 Yeah.
01:16:51.000 Just dropping.
01:16:52.000 Record low murder rate.
01:16:53.000 It makes me so angry we can barely even campaign on that.
01:16:55.000 They just say, oh, crime's not an issue this election.
01:16:57.000 I know.
01:16:58.000 We solve issues.
01:16:59.000 And then they go, voters go, oh, it's not an issue anymore.
01:17:01.000 We're not going to vote based on that.
01:17:02.000 I know.
01:17:02.000 Anyways, God bless you, sir.
01:17:03.000 I know you got to go.
01:17:04.000 Thank you for being so generous with your time.
01:17:07.000 And I've been a big believer in your ability to get this done.
01:17:10.000 And I just feel like I've been great leadership from the president to the vice president and on down.
01:17:15.000 Great leadership.
01:17:16.000 Yeah.
01:17:16.000 And Stephen Miller, huge shout out to him, too.
01:17:18.000 God bless you, sir.
01:17:19.000 Thank you, guys.
01:17:21.000 I talk about jobs and industries on this show all the time, but I didn't expect to find an entire skills trade community on TikTok plumbers, electrician, builders, and contractors sharing the work they do every day.
01:17:34.000 And it went way beyond tips and tricks.
01:17:36.000 People were sharing their craft, connecting with local contractors, and talking about how they were building their businesses and growing their teams.
01:17:43.000 It opened my eyes to how people in the trades are using TikTok to share their skills, make connections, and find new opportunities.
01:17:49.000 I remember thinking, this is exactly what we need more of people sharing what they know and creating opportunities for others.
01:17:55.000 And I never expected to find a community like this.
01:17:58.000 That's the thing about TikTok.
01:18:00.000 You start with something you know, and suddenly you're finding a whole new side of it that surprises you and leaves you wanting to know more.
01:18:05.000 Your next discovery is waiting for you on TikTok.
01:18:08.000 Learn more at TikTok.comslash discover more.
01:18:14.000 Do we have Caleb and Michelle?
01:18:16.000 Do we have them?
01:18:17.000 Caleb and Michelle, are you guys there?
01:18:20.000 We're here.
01:18:21.000 Excellent.
01:18:23.000 How are you?
01:18:24.000 Hey, doing great.
01:18:26.000 Shoot, I wanted to ask Mr. Mark Wayne Mullen there why does it take a Canadian citizen like me who's lived here 50 years and married two American citizens?
01:18:38.000 Why it takes over two years to naturalize my application for citizenship?
01:18:46.000 But are you Canadian originally?
01:18:48.000 Yeah, I'm Canadian.
01:18:50.000 Oh man.
01:18:50.000 Well, that's all right.
01:18:51.000 Well, we'll take the good one.
01:18:52.000 We'll take the good one.
01:18:53.000 Yeah, my parents came here when I was a baby.
01:18:55.000 I've lived here as a legal resident my whole life, but it's been two years since I applied for citizenship, and I'm like, well, what's going on?
01:19:03.000 Well, what I would say is, I've heard this from a few people, and I guess the good sign is, I think in the process of gumming out all of the bad stuff, I think they're not super angry about also slowing down the ones that are worthwhile.
01:19:15.000 Yeah, I mean, it's probably just a reflection of the fact that it's harder for.
01:19:18.000 Anybody to game the system, and that means that, yeah, some of the people that deserve to be naturalized, like yourself, you've been here since you were a baby, you're from Canada, you love this country.
01:19:27.000 Uh, it and it's probably just it just means it's it probably doesn't mean that it's not going to work out, it's just going to take a little bit.
01:19:33.000 So, you know, yeah, I'm yeah, I have all confidence that they won't deny my application, it's just like frustrating.
01:19:39.000 So, our real question is when is the Trump administration going to start arresting governors and mayors and officials like Walls, Jacob Frey, and Keith Ellison in Minnesota who?
01:19:50.000 And those others who actively are obstructing ICE or at least refusing to cooperate.
01:19:57.000 My take on that is I definitely think there's people within the admin that have an appetite for that, and then there's some that probably don't.
01:20:03.000 But it's also, I understand, listen, I'm team, arrest them all.
01:20:08.000 You get these governors, these mayors that want to obstruct and basically empower these vigilantes on the ground that want to screw everything up.
01:20:18.000 I'm team, arrest them, make an example out of them, and let them know they're not special.
01:20:22.000 They have no privilege.
01:20:23.000 They're legal citizens just like everybody else.
01:20:25.000 The law applies to them.
01:20:26.000 However, I understand why they might not want to do that, right?
01:20:30.000 Because after what happened in Minnesota, that was a huge, huge PR victory for the left, okay?
01:20:38.000 They felt like we went too hard, that we were too cowboy about it.
01:20:42.000 I'm not of those opinions, but when I'm looking at the polling, when I'm looking at all this stuff, I understand why they want to keep a little bit more discreet with some of this stuff.
01:20:50.000 And if they can keep it off the front page, ultimately, This is my belief, you're going to get more deportation.
01:20:55.000 Yeah, I think that's the idea.
01:20:57.000 They saw if they go maximally hard, it makes a lot of us really happy, but it actually makes it harder to get the deportation number as high as possible.
01:21:06.000 And yeah, it's like ICE started to poll worse when they were doing the really heavy handed stuff in Minneapolis.
01:21:12.000 And since then, yeah, we're not seeing heavy handed stuff, but we are getting those record arrest numbers, record deportation flights.
01:21:19.000 Exactly.
01:21:19.000 So I think that's my take on it.
01:21:21.000 They don't want to poke the bear too much.
01:21:23.000 Yeah, give them ammunition.
01:21:26.000 Yeah, exactly.
01:21:27.000 And, you know, listen, we're up against it in this midterm.
01:21:30.000 Yeah.
01:21:31.000 And I think right now it's going to be status quo for a little bit.
01:21:33.000 Yeah.
01:21:33.000 Thank you.
01:21:34.000 Thank you so much, Michelle.
01:21:35.000 Great to hear from you.
01:21:36.000 John, unmute yourself.
01:21:38.000 What's your question?
01:21:38.000 We're plowing ahead as quick as we can.
01:21:40.000 Honored to be the second guest from Oklahoma today.
01:21:44.000 Hey, there you go.
01:21:45.000 Mark Gwynn, I like him.
01:21:46.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:21:48.000 Oh, he's awesome.
01:21:49.000 I actually live about a mile from him.
01:21:51.000 He took so much incoming when he first took that job.
01:21:55.000 From the right.
01:21:56.000 Yeah, and the problem was he was not messaging the way that the base wanted him to.
01:22:02.000 His mandate was to quell this blue state rebellion, get them to cooperate.
01:22:07.000 And so it was a little bit of the base didn't understand what he was doing, but listen, the results.
01:22:13.000 I just think of the bit from the Gospel of Matthew where he tells the two sons to work in the vineyard, and one says, I'll go do it, but then doesn't work in the vineyard.
01:22:21.000 And the other says, Yes, or says, I won't, but does.
01:22:25.000 And, like, it's sort of that.
01:22:26.000 It's like he doesn't have the same level of, like, off the charts energy some personas have.
01:22:33.000 And yet the record speaks for itself.
01:22:35.000 But he's energetic.
01:22:36.000 The guy has more energy than he has.
01:22:37.000 He's the real energy.
01:22:38.000 The real energy.
01:22:39.000 He's literally, like, get stuff done energy.
01:22:40.000 He wakes up early, starts working.
01:22:42.000 Boom.
01:22:42.000 And he loves it.
01:22:44.000 All right.
01:22:44.000 Sorry.
01:22:44.000 What's your question?
01:22:45.000 Sorry.
01:22:45.000 We didn't mean to monologue over it.
01:22:48.000 Hey, I appreciate that.
01:22:49.000 So I'm just curious how is the Arizona project going?
01:22:53.000 And what are the internal polls showing for Biggs and Healy?
01:22:58.000 All right.
01:22:58.000 I mean, obviously, the public polls are not looking good, but I'm not sure we can trust them.
01:23:02.000 No, no, you can't trust them.
01:23:03.000 So Hobbs's own internal poll put it at four.
01:23:06.000 She had a four point lead, and that came out last week.
01:23:09.000 And what they, and that her support had collapsed.
01:23:12.000 So her own internal polls had her up as much as 10.
01:23:15.000 That's down to four.
01:23:16.000 So Andy Biggs is seizing the late momentum.
01:23:19.000 And even her own internal poll had undecided breaking for Andy Biggs two to one.
01:23:24.000 And if you check Tyler Bowyer, he's actually kind of live tweeting a lot of this.
01:23:28.000 He's been tracking ballot drops and comparing them to 2022 and emphasizing the pace because Democrats have tended to come out like a cannonball early with the early vote.
01:23:39.000 And then we close the gap.
01:23:41.000 And he's emphasized that the gap is closing faster than it has in the past.
01:23:45.000 And so this morning.
01:23:47.000 We had a drop.
01:23:48.000 It was a big drop.
01:23:48.000 Massive drop from Maricopa County, so biggest county, and it's 38% Republican, 39% Democrat, basically a tie.
01:23:55.000 Yeah, it's 0.7%.
01:23:55.000 And Republicans are gaining ground and are on a path to exceed 2022 term.
01:23:59.000 Now, remember, why is that important?
01:24:01.000 Because in 2022, Hobbs won the governor's race by 17,000 votes over Cary Lake.
01:24:08.000 Now, there were shenanigans.
01:24:10.000 We can get into all of that.
01:24:11.000 But even if all things remain the same, and actually some of our election laws have improved in.
01:24:17.000 Arizona, and we have a great county recorder in Justin Heap.
01:24:20.000 So, but if everything was still the same as it was in 2022, and we're on pace to exceed that, that very well means that, you know, Andy Biggs is on a great course here.
01:24:33.000 Let's just say that.
01:24:34.000 I don't want to pump you full of any hopium.
01:24:36.000 But in 2022, all things were not equal.
01:24:38.000 We did not have turning point action chasing across the state.
01:24:41.000 Our field team, our ballot chasers are 25% larger.
01:24:46.000 We have a 25% larger army on the ground than we even did in 2024.
01:24:50.000 And in 2022, we didn't have anybody.
01:24:52.000 So that should give you a lot of hope.
01:24:54.000 Commit 100.
01:24:56.000 So commit to chase 100 ballots.
01:24:58.000 We're going to give you 100 names.
01:24:59.000 Go to tpaction.comslash 100.
01:25:01.000 These are all conservatives.
01:25:02.000 You can chase them yourself.
01:25:04.000 And just one final, final name.
01:25:06.000 We'll put you up in a hotel, all the things.
01:25:07.000 One final word.
01:25:09.000 We also have a field team in Nevada and New Hampshire.
01:25:12.000 All three states are looking great.
01:25:15.000 Chasing works.
01:25:16.000 Getting low props out works.
01:25:19.000 Did I answer your question, sir?
01:25:22.000 Oh, we lost him.
01:25:22.000 All right.
01:25:23.000 Next question up.
01:25:24.000 How about we do David, is what Danny's saying.
01:25:28.000 So, David, unmute yourself and what's your question?
01:25:31.000 My question is first of all, thanks for having Mark Wayne Mullen on.
01:25:34.000 That was really good.
01:25:36.000 Worth the money.
01:25:37.000 He's great.
01:25:39.000 My question is Do all Democrats share the same brain?
01:25:49.000 Because they all have the same talking points. 1.00
01:25:54.000 They want men and women's sports. 1.00
01:25:56.000 They're baby killers and they want open borders. 0.97
01:26:03.000 And to hear them talk, I heard my. 0.90
01:26:09.000 My senator talk, and nothing's going on here in California.
01:26:13.000 We're in California.
01:26:15.000 Nothing to see here.
01:26:16.000 And they're very slick talking.
01:26:19.000 What's your thoughts on that?
01:26:21.000 Yeah, well, the question about do they all share the same mind?
01:26:24.000 That's actually a very deep question because it's a pattern that gets noticed, and you'll see it the most when there's a big cascade in how the left talks about something.
01:26:33.000 So, for example, 2020, during Pequoke, where suddenly every Democrat, like there wasn't a press release, you couldn't see where it was coming from, and yet they're all talking about.
01:26:43.000 We need to have a national conversation about racism.
01:26:46.000 Here's my reading.
01:26:47.000 I just ordered White Fragility by Robin D'Angelo and How to Be Racist by Ibram X. Kendi.
01:26:52.000 And they all very quickly collect around a certain point of view they didn't have before, whether it's defunding the police or making Juneteenth a holiday.
01:27:01.000 And they're suddenly all talking about how Juneteenth was this holiday they loved celebrating as kids.
01:27:06.000 There is a real way they all update.
01:27:09.000 And as for what drives that, I think it's a few things.
01:27:13.000 I think, as a rule, Democrats.
01:27:18.000 They are more bottom up in how they approach things.
01:27:20.000 They are more so if they suddenly see a big swell of what people are saying and believing, they kind of assimilate it because they're less hierarchical.
01:27:28.000 They're more bottom up. 0.97
01:27:29.000 Another thing is they're more feminine, they're majority women. 1.00
01:27:35.000 Women do prize consensus about things, they do prize not rocking the boat too much within their group. 0.95
01:27:43.000 And as a result, if they just and they also, as a result, also fear being ostracized and excluded.
01:27:48.000 All of those things work together to make them mesh together, and that can suddenly make them all adopt the same view all at the same time.
01:27:56.000 And it's a very interesting force because it gives them a huge amount of political power that we have to sort of have leaders get out there and get the message to people that this is a priority, this is what we're doing.
01:28:07.000 If we need to change our approach to a policy, it can be kind of like turning an aircraft carrier, it's very difficult.
01:28:14.000 But the left, they get this agility from the fact that, or actually, banning plastic straws was another good one.
01:28:20.000 Just a meme that took off on X, and suddenly every Democrat in America wanted to ban plastic straws.
01:28:25.000 This is why on the right, they often accuse the right of having authoritarian figures.
01:28:31.000 But that's kind of, you need a really strong leader to unite the right.
01:28:36.000 You really do.
01:28:37.000 You need a really strong personality, like a Reagan, an Eisenhower, a Trump, because their force of will is so strong, Charlie, that they could just bring all of these disparate factions, like herding cats.
01:28:51.000 But if you're going to herd cats, you need a really strong.
01:28:53.000 And as a group, we're the sort of people we can, with good authority, we can trust authority.
01:28:58.000 We can defer to authority.
01:29:00.000 We don't crave power as much.
01:29:02.000 What we crave is good leadership.
01:29:04.000 So it's the classic problem of the right they want a good government and then they want to go grill or go do church or spend time with their family.
01:29:13.000 And that innately means not being as invested in what every single decision your leaders are making.
01:29:19.000 Exactly.
01:29:20.000 So I think there's a lot that goes.
01:29:22.000 Yeah, it's a deep question.
01:29:23.000 But ultimately, and Blake brought it up earlier.
01:29:26.000 There's this issue of NGOs and massive funding and blue sky.
01:29:29.000 They have their own little comms networks.
01:29:31.000 They're all little like think tanks and their intellectual intelligentsia that is forging the new talking points, and those get disseminated out really, really quick.
01:29:39.000 And they fall in line.
01:29:40.000 There's not a lot of rocking the boat.
01:29:42.000 But there is a Democrat civil war as well between DSA and Democrats, and that is very real.
01:29:47.000 So never underestimate how much they keep under wraps and you don't see about because they have a compliant media that doesn't want to make hay about it.
01:29:54.000 What's the next question?
01:29:55.000 Let's see.
01:29:57.000 Is it Mick?
01:29:57.000 Do we have to read that one?
01:29:59.000 All right.
01:29:59.000 So, Mick, this is a reading one.
01:30:00.000 He says, Good morning, fellas.
01:30:03.000 With the shooting yesterday at the Silver Rail Elementary in Bend, there's a few things that stand out.
01:30:09.000 Law enforcement had a perfect response time.
01:30:10.000 They were there in under three minutes.
01:30:12.000 A bystander immediately pursued and killed the shooter, and the shooter used a pump action shotgun.
01:30:18.000 My question is what, if anything, the federal government is considering to protect schools?
01:30:23.000 At minimum, we need armed security outside of schools, whether it's funded or volunteer.
01:30:27.000 I don't care.
01:30:28.000 I would appreciate your thoughts as a former 22 year Bend resident.
01:30:32.000 So, first of all, condolences if you have any connection to any of those.
01:30:36.000 Any of those deaths, it's extremely sad and horrible.
01:30:40.000 Charlie would talk about this.
01:30:40.000 Charlie was definitely a supporter.
01:30:42.000 He believed in just having armed guards at schools funded.
01:30:49.000 I don't know if you'd want federal funding for that, it would probably be a volunteer or local effort.
01:30:54.000 I have mixed feelings about that.
01:30:56.000 I guess my concern has always been ultimately, you cannot protect everyone from a rogue lunatic who wants to conduct a shooting.
01:31:06.000 Really, without getting rid of the right to bear arms.
01:31:08.000 That is a way you could do it.
01:31:09.000 You could get rid of our constitutional right, disarm the public.
01:31:12.000 That would do it.
01:31:13.000 But besides that, are you going to have an armed guard at every single playground?
01:31:18.000 Are you going to have an armed guard on every single school bus?
01:31:21.000 Are you going to have an armed guard at every single swimming lesson, soccer practice?
01:31:27.000 In the end, if a really antisocial person wants to go on a suicidal spree, you can really only block it by becoming like the UK, where the UK actually is a panopticon where nobody is free.
01:31:40.000 Everyone is disarmed.
01:31:41.000 The government is extremely anarcho tyrannical and oppressive.
01:31:46.000 That is a way you can contain this.
01:31:48.000 Maybe it's worth it because schools specifically have become, they're like a trope that if you're a disaffected person, you try to do a school shooting or a church shooting.
01:31:57.000 So you figure those are the obvious target.
01:31:59.000 You fortify those.
01:32:01.000 I was going to say, I'm all for fortifying schools.
01:32:06.000 I think teachers should be taught to carry.
01:32:08.000 I think there should be, you know, Multiple personnel at most of these schools that are ready to jump in that are just there for security.
01:32:18.000 I don't love it, but if you're going to send your kids to a school, do you want to feel safe or do you want to love it?
01:32:23.000 What I worry is, I worry a majority of Americans if they're given the choice of do you want to have armed guards everywhere you go in life or just get rid of the Second Amendment.
01:32:35.000 I'm kind of worried people would pick get rid of the Second Amendment.
01:32:38.000 I mean, I'm going to keep my kids safe.
01:32:40.000 Good luck getting rid of the Second Amendment.
01:32:42.000 We're going to wrap it up there.
01:32:43.000 It's been a wonderful, wonderful Friday.
01:32:45.000 And thank you again to Secretary Mullen.
01:32:47.000 We see your notes, by the way.
01:32:48.000 A lot of you want him to do more.
01:32:50.000 Obviously, we want him to do more.
01:32:52.000 We love that.
01:32:53.000 We love to say, get $100,000 a month.
01:32:55.000 Yeah.
01:32:55.000 And listen, believe you me, the pressure that we put on these guys behind the scenes to get these deportation numbers up is huge.
01:33:02.000 They're also getting it from the other side that they're being too crazy.
01:33:05.000 They're being too much like cowboys. 0.55
01:33:06.000 It's a political liability.
01:33:08.000 I disagree with that.
01:33:09.000 I want more, more, more.
01:33:10.000 But Mark Wayne is on board.
01:33:13.000 He's doing a great job, honestly, and moving the football forward.
01:33:16.000 Trust me.
01:33:17.000 All right.
01:33:17.000 That wraps it up.
01:33:18.000 We'll see you guys on Monday.
01:33:20.000 Until then, have a great weekend.
01:33:21.000 Spend time with your family.
01:33:22.000 Touch grass.
01:33:23.000 Put the phone down.
01:33:25.000 And we really appreciate y'all.
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