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00:01:52.000We're going to talk about that Van Jones clip where the psyop that was run on the American people to, I don't know, convince them over social media that Democrats had any answers on affordability.
00:03:27.000So I think as long as they're scared, what people are really saying when they say don't fire anyone is they're scared of amnesty.
00:03:36.000They're scared of the administration giving into the left, accommodating the left.
00:03:40.000And as long as that is not happening, I think they're okay with personnel changes as long as they feel that the administration is not diverting from its purpose.
00:04:32.000And I think what you're seeing, I think it's safe to say, is a rallying around the flag effect, especially with conservatives, and a rallying around Pete Hegseth.
00:05:01.000Time for one man's final days in Congress to try to do damage to this president, this country, and most irresponsibly, the warriors who defend it.
00:05:13.000It's a farce and it's a stunt, and everybody knows it.
00:05:18.000He goes on to say that who you're really hurting is the warriors, and to say that if you execute on the president's orders, you are going to then be punished and impeached.
00:05:27.000And I think that's probably a valid critique here.
00:05:30.000President Trump is standing by Secretary Hegsteth Satnay.
00:06:27.000Marco Rubio says that Pete Hegseth has been fantastic.
00:06:32.000I don't know how anyone could argue that drug dealers trying to import poison into our country is not an imminent threat, it's a real and imminent. threat, and it's been addressed.
00:06:40.000We've discussed Iran extensively and the threat they've posed to the United States, not in the last year, since 1979, a threat that's grown.0.84
00:06:47.000In the case of Nicolas Maduro, that was, in many cases, a law enforcement operation because he was a fugitive of American justice who was captured and brought to justice, and, by the way, had the ancillary impact of also opening and paving the path for Venezuela to have a better future.
00:07:02.000So, as I said, on all those things, not only that he'd execute on a direct order from the commander-in-chief in our Constitution, Is empowered and trusted with the job of keeping Americans safe, but they did it quite effectively on all those fronts.
00:07:22.000He says, Has Pete Hegseth committed impeachable crimes?
00:07:25.000The answer is absurd, and the answer, the question is absurd, and the answer is obviously not.
00:07:30.000Like so much of Congress, impeachment has become a ridiculous show that stands in for actual policymaking.
00:07:37.000Congress has so many tools for registering policy disagreements.
00:07:41.000Rather than use them, they're going to try to impeach.
00:07:43.000Pete Hegsef, they did the same to Donald Trump.
00:07:46.000Legislation is hard, impeachments are easy, but ultimately inconsequential.
00:07:51.000And the irony is that legislators are most angry at Pete on the issues where he is most correct repositioning our forces away from Europe and Ukraine and reorganizing the general officer corps.
00:08:15.000Even if you disagree with the Iran conflict, which you and I both think it was a mistake to go in, but what they're ultimately, if you lay out the charges here, like they have eight.
00:08:24.000Charges and some of them are just the fact that he did strikes on Iran at all.
00:08:28.000They're saying that is now basically a crime for you to have obeyed the president to do strikes on Iran, which the president absolutely has the power to do.
00:08:36.000They're trying to get him on stuff that's very dangerous.
00:08:39.000One of the impeachment charges is basically that he hasn't minimized civilian casualties in the exact correct way.
00:08:46.000And okay, we are a humane country, we should minimize civilian casualties.
00:08:50.000But once you go down that route, basically America cannot be a military power if any action you take is going to be second guessed.
00:08:57.000By someone coming in and deciding you didn't dot every I and cross every T correctly, for us to say, like, you waged war in the absolute correct way.
00:09:06.000You should punish atrocities, but they're doing it in the sense, like, oh, he didn't have the right amount of intel, and so they were reckless and they bombed the wrong thing.
00:09:14.000Once you do that, we can't have a military.
00:10:17.000Do you think that he committed a crime?
00:10:18.000Well, what we think is that Stephen Miller is the architect of this horrific, unjust policy happening across the country in the way that we are treating folks.
00:10:27.000Look, Stephen Miller called Alex Purdy, as we know, an assassin.
00:10:31.000The way that he is going around creating immigration policy that separates families.
00:10:35.000That is causing people harm, that's creating a detention process where a few large companies are profiting.
00:10:41.000The unconstitutional detention of people, the way that folks are losing their due process rights, that has to be investigated.
00:10:47.000And so it does deserve oversight and investigation.
00:10:52.000Do you think anything that he did was criminal?
00:10:55.000That is, look, what's important is we believe that he's been at the center of actions that are unconstitutional, unjust, and possibly illegal.
00:11:02.000So we're, of course, going to investigate that.
00:11:07.000Unjust, he doesn't like it, da all this stuff.
00:11:10.000And he goes, impossibly illegal, which means he has no idea what the hell he's talking about.
00:11:15.000Show me the man, I'll show you the crime.
00:11:17.000This is a fishing expedition that they're about to embark on for all members of the Trump administration because they don't like certain things.
00:11:24.000And then they go right at the end, impossibly illegal.
00:11:26.000Which I will say, I'm getting, maybe this is a silly reason to be optimistic, but I think if we're worried about Democrats, this is half baked.
00:11:33.000One of the best, it's half baked, and also just if you want them to waste their time, and this is why we didn't necessarily like.
00:11:39.000Efforts to impeach Biden, for example, is if you're just going to go and be holding votes, and are they going to remove them from office?
00:11:46.000No, but they'll waste a lot of time on it.
00:12:56.000The Palace intrigue, JD, Marco, DeSantis, Youngkin, Ted Cruz, I guess, is thrown in that mix as well.
00:13:05.000I will just have to say that one of the things that I'm contemplating, one of the things that I'm mulling over in my thought process as we move into 2028 is that there has to be certain changes.
00:13:18.000There has to be, I think, a change of aesthetics in some ways, the way that this pettiness angle, when you see it on somebody like Congressman Garcia, And I use Congressman very lightly there.
00:14:03.000And we have to also internalize that message.
00:14:07.000And the reason I bring out the horse race is because I have to give high marks.
00:14:11.000I know I don't want to get like a billion emails on this, but something that DeSantis said that I think is actually resonating is when he talked about getting back to statesmanship, getting back to this being above reproach.
00:14:28.000And, you know, you see all these stories about corruption and.
00:14:32.000Insider dealing and it grosses people out.
00:14:36.000And whatever this movement becomes next, and I think our ideas are very good, our ideas are still winning ideas, and we need to make sure that we don't jettison them for amnesty.
00:14:49.000But whatever it becomes from a messaging standpoint, from an aesthetic standpoint, has to embrace the fact that our side genuinely are the good guys, and we need to live like that.
00:15:57.000If politics in the US just becomes four year cycles of getting revenge for the previous four years, there are countries that get stuck in cycles like that.
00:16:05.000Like we looked at Brazil, Brazil's become a lot like that just very nasty.
00:17:08.000And it terrifies me, actually, that the contingent is that big.
00:17:11.000But I don't think it's enough to win elections.
00:17:13.000I don't think it's enough to win the White House in 2028.
00:17:19.000Above that, we have to present something different to the American people.
00:17:23.000I'm telling you, my appetite is like 10 out of 10 for silent operators that are competent, that have integrity, and that manage things well and that have the right ideas because our ideas are still the right ideas.
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00:19:12.000Oh, it's Republicans' fault for affordability.
00:19:15.000And candidly, they had a good hook, Iran, that was like something you could point to directly contributing to gas prices.
00:19:24.000And they, boy, oh boy, they worked it.
00:19:27.000Here's Van Jones telling you about the American Accountability Network and taking the veil away, pulling the curtain back on what they were really up to.
00:21:11.000Because you had information about affordability.
00:21:15.000Did you ever bring to the table affordability?
00:21:18.000Because if you did, that's now we know all propaganda.
00:21:22.000Because you and the Democrats were working hard to convince people that their reality was not reality, that what's really happening in the economy.
00:21:36.000Listen to this Friday, National Alliance to End Homelessness estimated America's homeless population fell 6.7%, second straight year of decline.
00:23:33.000I mean, it's practically at this point mind control.
00:23:38.000These are the people that gave us nudge.
00:23:43.000This is the worst kind of propaganda that is taking real people who want their lives to get better and filling their head with lies, lies to get them to vote against their own interests.
00:24:00.000Well, you know who's been speaking out about this as well is Victor Davis Hansen.
00:24:04.000He's talking about how good the economy actually is and is going to get supercharged probably in the next two years if Democrats don't succeed in.
00:24:13.000Screwing it up, frankly, and our own side.
00:25:54.000So there was somebody that hacked in, and it was like a billion and a half dollars worth of meat and food had to be destroyed because somebody hacked into the freezers in all of the supermarkets and put them in defrost as soon as the store closed.
00:26:57.000France did everything they could to say we're not on America's side.
00:27:00.000And look at what they're still paying the price.
00:27:02.000From the start, that's been, I think, the strongest argument in favor of pursuing this war Iran has had a school shooter level approach to this conflict in terms of we struck them, and so they lobbed missiles at the UAE, at Saudi Arabia, at countries not even having U.S. forces in them, like Jordan.0.75
00:27:20.000And then now they're roping in France.0.83
00:27:32.000And the gas prices were going to come down.
00:27:35.000I mean, this summer I was over in Europe and the Middle East, and I met with three different prime ministers.
00:27:43.000And all of them talked about the war, talked about the price of oil, what Trump was building.
00:27:53.000You know, not all of them were happy about how he was basically saying that the Western hemisphere is going to be the center of the world, but they understood what he was doing.
00:28:03.000And when we talked about the war, all of them said, It's about to end because he's crushing them.
00:28:09.000And if he sticks to the economic sanctions, he's crushing them.
00:28:15.000And you will see that fall apart, but it won't be until after the election.
00:28:47.000He wants to be patted on the back for the fact that he has been a propagandist on that network, lying to people for months and completely complicit, engaged, involved, behind the scenes.0.98
00:29:05.000I have to tell you, if I were somebody who voted either for a Republican or Democrat, but this time I voted for them because of the affordability, And I found that out, I would be pissed off.0.99
00:31:01.000Minokwa, you might have somewhere in the back of your mind, but I've heard of this company before.
00:31:07.000Turns out this is the same brewing company, Minokwa Brewing Company, that hands out free beer should, God forbid, President Trump be assassinated.
00:31:17.000Said, well, we almost got free beer day.
00:31:19.000And I think this was after the White House correspondence dinner.
00:31:25.000Either a brother or sister in the resistance needs to work on their marksmanship, or he faked another assassination to get a positive news cycle.
00:32:56.000There are consequences to things like this.
00:32:59.000But I think, honestly, that the ghoulishness is, you know, Charlemagne the God, who I don't agree with on anything, just came out, I think, yesterday.
00:33:10.000And said about Dave Chappelle that Dave crossed a line.
00:33:55.000There's no, there's nothing real there.
00:33:57.000No, you know, Daily Mail came out with an article reporting that they have lost $8 million in sponsorship after laughing at the joke, which was not funny at all, of exhuming Charlie's body and doing it again.
00:34:12.000And they laughed for like, Half a minute.
00:34:32.000They were going to give out free beers if Donald Trump had been shot.
00:34:35.000They also celebrated Charlie being shot.
00:34:37.000And they took the opportunity not merely to do it after he died, but one year later to come out and say, by the way, we stand by everything we said.
00:34:45.000Charlie was terrible and got what was coming to him.
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00:37:40.000I addressed this whole Dave Chappelle thing yesterday, but my whole timeline is still filled with people's reactions to this, including yours.
00:37:49.000You wrote a letter to Dave Chappelle, essentially on X. You said, Dear Dave Chappelle, you are not the same human being you once were.
00:37:58.000And you were very respectful, but you had some pointed things to say.
00:38:03.000And I couldn't think of anybody better than yourself.
00:38:05.000To chime in on this and get your reaction.
00:38:09.000The state of comedy, Rob, where's it at?
00:38:12.000Well, the thing about it, there wasn't a joke there.
00:38:15.000I mean, this also, you know, people were comparing because he said the same thing that Tony Hinchcliffe said at a roast.
00:38:23.000I think a roast is, you know, a little bit different.
00:38:27.000I mean, I don't see, like, you know, the commentator, what's his face, thy god or that guy.
00:38:44.000The idea of being happy that anyone has, you know, has been violently murdered, you know, on live, on TV, it's just, you know, on the net, on social media, it's despicable.
00:38:58.000And I, you know, so I just don't think, you know, for people like who knew him, you know, we knew him.
00:39:07.000And if you had spent time watching his, You know, his brilliance.
00:39:10.000I mean, all you have to do is go online and you'll see it.
00:39:19.000Is a man of deeds trying to bring people, literally souls, to Christ and trying to protect, like what he knew was a unique form of leadership, unique to the world.
00:39:30.000And that it was that this American country has a history that is worth praising.
00:39:37.000And it is a system of government that, unlike any before it, this was one that said that human beings had inalienable rights.
00:39:46.000In other words, our rights weren't given by the state or by some powerful men or a king.
00:39:52.000They're given by God, and that is an unquestionable right.
00:39:56.000And so I think for a lot of people who didn't, I mean, who just don't know him, can think whatever they want.
00:40:02.000But like, I guarantee you, you know, that Chappelle has never seen any of the videos, has never heard of anything.
00:40:49.000I mean, I think there's a difference between free speech and violent rhetoric.
00:40:53.000And I think celebrating somebody's death, I mean, unfortunately, Just like Charlie's murderer, Tyler Robinson, he was, you know, motivated to do something, and I don't think he ever saw his stuff either.
00:41:08.000If he did, it was certainly taken out of context, and it riled up to the point where somebody would commit this murder.
00:41:14.000And I just think, like, to me, it's, you know, Charlie was a special dude.
00:41:21.000I mean, he really helped, you know, save this country, I mean, and turn the country around from an open borders craziness where, you know, society was, you know, You can't go against godlessness without God.
00:41:36.000We're going to have to have somebody in our corner and to do something higher than ourselves.
00:41:41.000And Charlie stood for that and he understood that.
00:41:43.000And he had a grace about him and he really was filled with the Spirit of Christ.
00:41:50.000And I think why he was so hated was because, from people who don't know him, was because of that spirit that he had and the power that he, when he spoke, he spoke with.
00:42:40.000As someone who performs all the time, you can feel when an audience just isn't into it, whether they, then the few ghouls who go along with it.
00:42:49.000I think like Dr. Martin Luther King died for sanitation workers.
00:42:54.000I mean, he died so that they could have a decent living wage in Memphis.
00:42:58.000He was there to talk to the mayor to see if they can get a decent living wage, a living wage.
00:43:05.000So that they could take care of their families because they were below a poverty line where they couldn't.
00:43:12.000And this is something a union, and he was there to fight for that and did, and gave his life for that.
00:43:18.000Charlie gave his life for this country so that we could have conversations, so that our children could be, you know, in university, could have some critical thinking and fight back against what really is a liberal crap storm of a war on reality and a war on this culture.
00:43:36.000And I mean, the idea that, you know, we have our freedoms, but these freedoms that we have can be democratically undermined by people who don't come in here with a good spirit.0.71
00:43:46.000And that's what he was worried about with Islam.
00:43:49.000That's what he's worried about with the combination.0.85
00:43:52.000Of Islam and the left was that, you know, because as John Adams said very famously, you know, this, our form of government is made for a virtuous and religious people and is wholly inadequate for that of any other.0.96
00:44:27.000I went back and looked, Rob, because the question is we don't want to react to this in the wrong way.0.60
00:44:33.000I think the left has done themselves a massive disservice for the last decade plus of just being hall monitors, being Karens, speech police.
00:44:40.000And we actually benefited by being like, hey, you can go say whatever you want.
00:44:55.000I mean, the interesting thing is, I look back, though, Rob, and I. Went back to 1981 to see what the reaction was after Reagan was the attempted assassination against Reagan.
00:45:05.000I tried to find out was there any ghoulish joking?
00:45:07.000Was there any gratuitous joking about that?
00:45:30.000And this was at an improv in Los Angeles.
00:45:33.000So, the question, I mean, every stand up routine is an exercise in cancellation.
00:45:40.000If you tell bad jokes, they will boo you, they will hiss, they will throw tomatoes at you, and if it's good, they will laugh.
00:45:47.000And ultimately, that has to be the line.
00:45:49.000Like, I want to live in a culture that doesn't laugh at that.
00:45:53.000And I want to live in a culture that thinks it's so awful that the comedians stop telling those types of jokes because they know it's going to be.
00:46:00.000I will tell you that go back and listen to that reaction from the Madison Square Garden.
00:46:07.000Gave New York City, gave to that statement that I feel better.
00:46:12.000I will play it on the other side of the band.
00:46:19.000And I will tell you that it was an ugly statement that I think was beneath him.
00:46:24.000And we're all able to, we all can make mistakes and we all can do things.
00:46:27.000It just seems to me like Charlie was, I mean, the violent murder of someone who was a son, a husband, a father, and a young man, there's no, in any way or shape or form.
00:47:36.000The reaction was muted and kind of a shock.
00:47:40.000And I don't think it got the response, it wasn't a roar of approval.
00:47:45.000I do think the first people that yelled out, I think.
00:47:48.000I think for that audience, it's beyond the pale.
00:47:50.000Otherwise, you didn't hear a roar of approval like you would have had some anti Trump joke back in 2016, which was every comedian's easiest place to go.
00:48:03.000I mean, to talk about having no courage, go after Trump in 2016, 17, and 18.
00:48:07.000You just needed to say his name, and then the liberal audience would lose their minds.
00:50:19.000But obviously, the guy had problems, you know?
00:50:22.000Well, I think, I mean, that gets back to the original thing.
00:50:24.000I remember the day it happened, people were saying, like, Because the left was making fun of it the moment it happened.
00:50:31.000And someone pointed out, it's like, you know, if you guys want to understand how this feels to us, imagine how you would feel when you saw someone you sympathized with, like a drug addict or a criminal.
00:50:41.000And well, you know, what happens is, I think, look, if I can jump in, what you have is you have a, there is no sympathy and no empathy for anybody outside your, your tribe, your political tribe and your group.
00:50:55.000And everyone, no matter how, and it's the extremes of the, of the, You know, on the fringe of it, I would think, I'm going to hope.
00:51:05.000But you can have no empathy and you can have abject cruelty as long as it's towards the right group.
00:51:11.000Whereas somebody in the in group, then you have all the empathy and sympathy that you want.
00:51:19.000Conservatives grouped together, just another way to hate Trump and to hate conservatives and anyone associated with him.
00:51:26.000And truthfully, not even understanding, like, I mean, what a beautiful human being Charlie was.
00:51:31.000I mean, it's like, I mean, literally, I mean, I think one of the most consequential.
00:51:38.000You know, people of the century, for sure.
00:51:41.000And the thing about Charlie was there was no agenda there except how much he loved the country.
00:51:47.000And that irritated the left so much because he was a man of God bringing souls to Christ and trying to preserve what this country was a nation under God, a Christian God.
00:51:59.000And he wanted to make sure that as many people who had forgotten about it and the young people who were not taught that, that they knew that.
00:52:08.000Rob, the first thing, you know, when I saw this clip and I posted it, It was John 15, 18 through 25, where he says, If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first.
00:52:19.000If you belong to the world, it would love you as its own.
00:52:22.000As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world.
00:52:55.000And so you're seeing all those lists come out.
00:52:59.000And for the people who are like, you know, the most effective are the ones that will be targeted.
00:53:05.000And I will say that, you know, I'm buoyed by the lack of response from that audience.
00:53:12.000And also, I mean, well, like, you know, Andrew, and like the first thing you said to me, Which I really, really respect and appreciate was like, we don't want to squelch, you know, Dave Chappelle's free speech.
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00:55:41.000I'm going to play a clip from Lawrence Jones.
00:55:44.000It's, you know, this behind the scenes maneuvering I don't think is going to fly right now.
00:55:49.000The candidate forum is this morning, and the results with a secret ballot will be this afternoon unless they listen to these few senators and say we're going to postpone.
00:55:59.000Yeah, it looks like he's still running.
00:56:00.000I just don't understand why they would, after what happened on Tuesday, think that what they're doing currently is acceptable to the voters.
00:56:09.000I mean, you got to have some self assessment and figure out what went wrong.
00:56:16.000And if the voters feel like you didn't deliver on the agenda and many of it died in the Senate, and you're going to take that same leadership path, I think that's suicide right there.
00:56:28.000Well, I think Lawrence Jones is on to something.
00:56:31.000So that was rumors of a closed door meeting.
00:56:34.000To elect, basically, rubber stamp John Thune.
00:57:11.000If they tried to do a leadership election, he'd just march right out.
00:57:14.000Mike Lee from Utah, Rick Scott from Florida, John Kennedy from Louisiana, Dave McCorvick from Pennsylvania, Jim Banks from Indiana, and Ted Budd from North Carolina.
00:57:23.000I think all of those gentlemen have been on this show multiple times except for Ted Budd.
00:57:29.000So they're putting together a pretty good coalition of the willing right there to.
00:57:36.000Push back any of this, say delay the leadership vote, which I think is the right move.
00:57:40.000See if you can get some of President Trump's agenda passed.
01:00:14.000Both those districts probably would have moved the national average, which is almost 13 points had we not done our effort.
01:00:20.000But all these slings and arrows are coming for people doing good work and they're coming for President Trump.
01:00:25.000But half the blame needs to go on the other side of Pennsylvania Avenue.
01:00:29.000Half the blame needs to go to the do nothing Senate.
01:00:32.000And I think Senator Ron Johnson, Mike Lee, and these types, they understand that we had a mandate to get things done, real change accomplished, like the Save America Act, and that was left unfinished.
01:00:42.000And we are paying the political price for it now.
01:00:45.000What's the point of electing Republicans if you can't get anything done?
01:00:48.000And I understand we had a lot of dead weight Lisa Murkowski, Susan Collins, McConnell.
01:00:54.000Rand Paul was hard to wrangle oftentimes, but I think you absolutely can work with Rand Paul.
01:02:06.000Well, and this is the culture that needs to be broken in Washington.0.97
01:02:09.000When you have deadweight senators, you need to not protect them.
01:02:15.000You need to force them to out themselves.
01:02:18.000And I think what happens in the Senate, and it's supposed to be this very collegiate body where everybody's very respectful of one another, and I actually think some of that's good.
01:02:43.000And by Thune refusing to do the votes, there are bad senators that will make it through a primary future because they haven't been called to account.
01:03:54.000Like, it's literally like a trans loving, a gay man, and a Muslim walking to a bar.
01:03:59.000It's just frustrating because what we all, I think, what you and I both know, Andrew, deep down, is we need a more revolutionary cast of mind within our senators.
01:04:09.000And that's not saying we don't want the Democrat version of blow everything up, blow up the Supreme Court, basically nuke our Constitution.
01:04:17.000We want, you just have to think, is the Senate real?
01:04:20.000And that was the argument for abolishing the filibuster.
01:04:22.000That for 20 years at this point, basically, the Senate has been fake because no one ever has 60 votes.
01:04:46.000We would win so many more elections if we had a Senate that was out there banning congressional stock trading, actively draining the swamp.
01:07:44.000The only viable path is to keep the good things about MAGA, immigration, hawkish, hawkery, the political incorrectness, and the backbone, and ditch the bad, corruption, clownishness, and reckless foreign adventures, etc.
01:07:57.000Most importantly, it has to get out from under Trump's shadow and present itself as something different from the current administration.
01:08:04.000If the GOP promises four more years of Trump without Trump, Republicans will get murdered in 2028.
01:08:10.000Realism, not plan trusting, is the only way forward.
01:08:15.000The part about this that I think it resonates.
01:08:17.000And again, I want to hear your guys' thoughts.
01:09:55.000And that's true because I think there is a reality that only Trump can sort of get away with his particular combination of policy and sort of big man personality.
01:10:08.000And so you do, we're probably going to need a way of selling this is something that is different from what the last four years were.
01:10:15.000Chew the meat, spit out the bones from whatever this past thing was, which was necessary, by the way.
01:10:20.000The backbone that Greer talks about in this, I think, is really huge.
01:10:23.000And it's interesting because, for example, if you looked at Ron DeSantis' campaign in 24, I think there was a real attempt to brand that as like this is Trump's policies without any of the stuff about Trump that sort of makes people uncomfortable from time to time.
01:11:03.000If you want to know how the left still plans to transform this country, and they've already made a ton of inroads on this, they want to replace the body politic.
01:11:12.000They want to bring in the third world and have them voting Democrat for the rest of their lives and for generations.0.83
01:12:03.000He had a special hold on the American right and really on the American public because even the way he sets off people on the left is different from anyone who's come before and anyone who will come after, I believe.
01:12:48.000If you want to be debating, What direction should MAGA, what direction should conservatism, what direction should the Republican Party take in 2027 and 2028 and beyond?
01:13:03.000We're going to have, by the way, we're going to have iPads and you can vote on straw polls and let your voice be heard that way too, which is definitely going to make a lot of news.