The Charlie Kirk Show - How Joe Biden got the Chicago Treatment ft. Gov. Rod Balojevich, Dr. Mary Talley Bowden, Jordan Schachtel, Jennifer Van Laar

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00:01:37.000 Joining us now is Governor Rod Blagojevich.

00:01:42.000 He knows something about the Chicago treatment.

00:01:44.000 Governor, welcome to the program.

00:01:46.000 We're both from Chicago, Governor, and we both know what has unfolded these last couple of days.

00:01:53.000 You have a Wall Street Journal piece, Biden gets the Chicago treatment.

00:01:57.000 Tell us all about it.

00:01:58.000 Well, hi, Charlie.

00:01:59.000 Nice to see you.

00:01:59.000 I hope your parents are doing well.

00:02:01.000 You guys are from Wheeling, Illinois, right?

00:02:03.000 That's right.

00:02:04.000 Yes, the suburbs of Chicago.

00:02:05.000 That's right.

00:02:06.000 A little safer than the city of Chicago.

00:02:08.000 And the politics might be a little bit safer.

00:02:11.000 Here, they backstab you, they hijack governors.

00:02:14.000 Even if you're a member of the party that's in charge, they still do it to you.

00:02:17.000 It did it to me and now what they did to Biden is very, very obvious to me because when you've been through it, you don't forget it.

00:02:25.000 And when they do it to somebody else, you fully can understand that they're doing exactly that.

00:02:30.000 No, I think Biden was, I'm certain Biden was pushed out by the Democratic machine, the new political tactics, a combination of the carrot and the

00:02:44.000 stick, more stick than carrot.

00:02:46.000 In other words, threatening Biden with certain things, but then holding out promises of positive

00:02:52.000 things, good things for Biden personally and for his family.

00:02:55.000 And if he didn't go along, you know, they had all kinds of things they were going to

00:03:00.000 do to him, drop dimes on him, because both Obama and Pelosi pretty much know all the

00:03:05.000 dirt that Biden has hidden in those closets that have been accumulated since he was first

00:03:11.000 sworn in as a senator back in 1973.

00:03:13.000 That's a long, long time for a guy to be a Washington insider.

00:03:18.000 And so, well, all the stuff that he's picked up can't fit into one closet, it's going to fit into several.

00:03:24.000 I'm sure Biden has all kinds of things, all kinds of skeletons in those closets.

00:03:28.000 And I think that stuff was being conveyed to him either directly or through third parties by people who are in politics who are close to him and not so close to him.

00:03:39.000 You know, these political people and I was in the business and sometimes you use emissaries, frequently you use emissaries to convey messages to people.

00:03:47.000 and when it's nefarious stuff like what I'm suggesting they did to Biden, which is what

00:03:51.000 they did to me, you want to maybe be removed from that.

00:03:55.000 So you have a third party or even a fourth party be the one that can do the thing.

00:04:00.000 So I know how Obama operates because he and I both came out of the system.

00:04:05.000 I've known Obama since 1995.

00:04:06.000 I know him real well.

00:04:09.000 I did a lot of stuff for him when I was governor and appointed several people that he asked me to appoint.

00:04:14.000 So I know how he operates.

00:04:15.000 And again, I know what they did to me.

00:04:17.000 And so I'm convinced without any doubt that Joe Biden was pushed out against If you don't leave, we're going to do all these things to you.

00:04:27.000 And I really think, and I just put a tweet out, real Blagojevich, my Twitter, I just put a tweet out just moments ago, and I really believe one of the big threats they made was that they were going to invoke the 25th Amendment against him.

00:04:39.000 And Pelosi would use her influence in the House, among House Democrats, to do it and put the Republicans in a position where they would have to do it as well. 1.00

00:04:47.000 So this is what I think happened.

00:04:49.000 And I think now there are other things that will not be reported that were whispered to Biden that were friendly

00:04:56.000 and helpful to him if he agreed to play ball and get out.

00:04:59.000 Classic Chicago.

00:05:00.000 So this is, yes, I want to play two pieces of tape here.

00:05:04.000 First is cut 90, Trump predicting Nancy and the Democrats would use the 25th Amendment

00:05:08.000 against him.

00:05:09.000 Play cut 90.

00:05:10.000 Again, I'd like to say that free speech is under assault like never before.

00:05:16.000 The 25th Amendment is of zero risk to me, but we'll come back to haunt Joe Biden and

00:05:22.000 the Biden administration.

00:05:24.000 As the expression goes, be careful what you wish for.

00:05:28.000 And here is Cut 74 Nancy Pelosi in 2020 talking about how they need to change it. 1.00

00:05:34.000 Play Cut 74.

00:05:35.000 This is not about President Trump.

00:05:39.000 He will face the judgment of the voters.

00:05:42.000 But he shows the need for us to create a process for future presidents.

00:05:48.000 This bill honors the duty by creating a standing commission of top former executive officials and medical experts selected in a bipartisan, bicameral way.

00:06:01.000 A president's fitness for office must be determined by science and facts.

00:06:07.000 This legislation applies to future presidents.

00:06:12.000 So, Governor, help me understand, how often does this occur in Democrat politics?

00:06:17.000 Did they use this against Bernie Sanders, for example, when he almost won the nomination in both 2016 and 2020?

00:06:24.000 And what does this actually look like?

00:06:25.000 Because you lived it.

00:06:26.000 It's veiled threats.

00:06:28.000 It's meetings via emissaries.

00:06:31.000 It is them winking and nodding.

00:06:34.000 How common is this practice in Democrat politics?

00:06:38.000 It's the ordinary course of business.

00:06:40.000 It's business as usual.

00:06:41.000 It's pretty much how it works.

00:06:44.000 It's a very transactional way of doing politics.

00:06:49.000 Most of it's very legal, if not all of it.

00:06:52.000 I take, for example, the Democratic Convention in 2008.

00:06:54.000 That was the last convention I was at until I went to the one here in Milwaukee, my first Republican convention, Charlie.

00:07:02.000 I've been to four Democrat ones.

00:07:03.000 I spoke at the first Welcome aboard.

00:07:06.000 It was very nice, by the way.

00:07:07.000 I really appreciate how nice I was treated by all those people who, God bless them, are supporting President Trump.

00:07:13.000 But at that convention in 2008, you know, before Hillary agreed to get on board and back Obama, they made a deal.

00:07:21.000 And I use this as an example to defend myself when they all of a sudden criminalized the political deal that Obama wanted to make with me.

00:07:28.000 That sent me to prison for eight years and him to the White House for eight years.

00:07:32.000 But the deal was that Hillary would agree to get out of the race and support Obama, play a big role at that convention in Denver at the end of August 2008, in exchange for Obama raising something like $10 million to get rid of her campaign debt, to erase her campaign debt, eliminate her campaign debt. 0.95

00:07:51.000 Now, that's not illegal.

00:07:52.000 It's a common practice, at least in Democrat politics.

00:07:55.000 I suspect the Republicans probably do versions of that.

00:07:58.000 But that's one example.

00:08:00.000 In the case of Biden, I do think they really used the power of the Congress as a threat to Biden to get him to step aside because they were going to invoke that 25th Amendment.

00:08:12.000 You just played that videotape of Nancy Pelosi.

00:08:15.000 That's a campaign promise that she actually kept, that she was going to use it maybe for future president. 1.00

00:08:22.000 And you know, I have a confession to make to your viewers, and Charlie, I've said this, maybe you've heard me say it, but You know, 155,000 times.

00:08:31.000 I didn't break a law, cross a line, or take a penny.

00:08:33.000 It was all politics.

00:08:34.000 Obama started the whole thing, sent an emissary to me to make a political deal.

00:08:38.000 Here's, again, using a third party to come and see me to pick Valerie Jarrett, who he wanted, and the guy said, can I come and see you the next day so we can talk about what you want?

00:08:46.000 He wants to make a deal.

00:08:47.000 And so they criminalized those conversations with me and sent me away for eight years to protect Obama.

00:08:53.000 And so In the case of Pelosi, my confession to viewers is I supported her when I was a Democrat in Congress to be the Democrat leader and laid the foundation for her to ultimately become the Speaker of the House.

00:09:07.000 And I was the first governor in America to endorse Obama.

00:09:10.000 And, you know, I've got scars for having done that.

00:09:14.000 And I feel like I paid my debt to society for having done it.

00:09:18.000 So Governor, since you say it's ordinary business within the Democrat Party, why do, and I'm just curious, why do Democrat voters, base voters, who scream at us about democracy all the time, put up with this mafioso-style oligarchy that the Democrat Party has become?

00:09:39.000 Because they don't really see it.

00:09:40.000 They get the result after it's been decided in the back rooms.

00:09:43.000 The trick to this is all behind the scenes, in the back rooms, in the shadows of the back rooms where these people operate.

00:09:49.000 And in the old days in Chicago, there was a caricature of a typical Chicago political boss.

00:09:54.000 He was a guy who chomped down a cigar and he wore a pinky ring.

00:09:58.000 And today, you know, and he talked kind of in a crude way.

00:10:03.000 But it was all transactional and all wheeling and dealing.

00:10:06.000 And in the case of the new political bosses in the Democrat Party at the national level, and I believe Obama has taken with him the lessons he learned in Chicago politics, they look different.

00:10:18.000 I mean, they're appealing on television.

00:10:20.000 Nancy Pelosi's an attractive woman and Obama's appealing. 0.99

00:10:23.000 So they don't look like your typical war bosses.

00:10:25.000 So ordinarily they have, at the start among Democrat voters, they have a certain presumption of good faith.

00:10:32.000 But this stuff is being done back room, in the back room, in the shadows, behind the scenes.

00:10:37.000 The people don't see it.

00:10:39.000 It happens all the time.

00:10:42.000 Pelosi's had all those years as Speaker of the House and as a member of Congress to become a mass director.

00:10:48.000 That's exactly what they did to Biden.

00:10:49.000 So Governor, do you have any knowledge of the Democrat machine going even further than just Legal tactics.

00:10:59.000 Have you ever any awareness of them going into some of the darker elements of threatening or intimidation?

00:11:06.000 You know, I have to think about some of that because I've been in Chicago politics and in Democrat politics for a long time.

00:11:15.000 You know, let me give you a couple of illustrations, Charlie, which I think might help your listeners really get a sense of how this works.

00:11:20.000 And I'll bring my own personal experience in the days leading up to me being hijacked from office and then ultimately thrown in prison for politics, not for crimes, started by the Democrats.

00:11:31.000 And these are on FBI tapes, which to this day are being covered up by the prosecutors who worked with Obama and worked with the Democrats after the calamity came into my life.

00:11:40.000 In those FBI tapes, I'm discussing all kinds of potential political deals, and my hands are not exactly clean either.

00:11:46.000 I mean, as long as these deals were legal and they were worthwhile, hopefully you benefit the public with them.

00:11:51.000 That's the objective, if your heart's right.

00:11:54.000 But, you know, I certainly wasn't one who ran away from discussing, you know, routine political horse trading that could benefit the public and and was smart politically.

00:12:03.000 So Rahm Emanuel was on the phone calls with me a lot.

00:12:06.000 And, you know, you know, I'm known for saying this is F and gold and I'm not giving it up for nothing.

00:12:10.000 But if you think I say the F word a lot, you ought to hear Rahm.

00:12:13.000 He says a lot more than I do.

00:12:15.000 But he's on the call.

00:12:16.000 And one of the ideas that he had was whether At the time, he was my congressman.

00:12:21.000 He succeeded me as the congressman of the 5th Congressional District in Illinois when I became the governor.

00:12:28.000 Rahm had become tagged as Obama's Chief of Staff right after Obama won, but before he was sworn in.

00:12:36.000 And I was surprised because I thought Rahm was on the fast track to one day become the Speaker of the House because he was raising all kinds of money for the Democrat Campaign Congressional Committee.

00:12:45.000 So, we talked about it, and he said, no, he was going to go and be the chief of staff for a while, but he would like to have the seat held for him, and that would I be willing to appoint his successor, a guy by the name of Forrest Claypool, to be the congressman for two years.

00:12:59.000 Ron would serve as Obama's chief of staff, and then Claypool, the deal would be, would step out of the congressional seat.

00:13:05.000 Obama would appoint him to a cabinet position of some sort, or head of an agency of some sort, and then Ron would come back and get his congressional seat again.

00:13:13.000 And I told him I was interested in working with him.

00:13:16.000 So again, I'm not exactly, you know, pristine or a choir boy here, but none of this was illegal.

00:13:21.000 But it's routine.

00:13:22.000 It's this kind of horse trading that they do.

00:13:25.000 But I told Rahm, I don't know that I had the constitutional authority to be able to do this.

00:13:29.000 And we would have our lawyers look into this.

00:13:32.000 And so it turned out I didn't.

00:13:34.000 I could appoint a senator, but I couldn't appoint a congressman.

00:13:36.000 I could set the date of the congressional election.

00:13:38.000 Fast forward, I've been arrested now.

00:13:41.000 They want me to resign because they want to pick their own senator and they want a big tax increase on your parents in Wheeling and all the people in Illinois.

00:13:49.000 And I wouldn't do either one of those things.

00:13:50.000 I wasn't resigning because I did nothing wrong.

00:13:52.000 So to try to get me to get out, they sent emissaries to me, state lawmakers who I had close relationships with, they knew who my friends were, and they sent them to me and one of them in particular suggested this idea.

00:14:04.000 He showed me the law under the state statutes that says that if a governor is physically incapacitated, he or she could temporarily step aside, let the lieutenant governor Well, I turned that down for several reasons, not the least of which was I didn't want to be a ghost payroll or governor.

00:14:21.000 In the meantime, I was offered, I can keep my pay, the governor's pay and the security detail,

00:14:27.000 if I would agree to do this.

00:14:28.000 And then once I cleared my name, I can become the governor again.

00:14:33.000 Well, I turned that down for several reasons, not the least of which was,

00:14:35.000 I didn't wanna be a ghost payroll or governor.

00:14:37.000 Now, whether that's legal or not, I don't know, but I never allowed it to go to the next level

00:14:42.000 because I was never gonna step out, even though I knew my days were numbered.

00:14:45.000 So then they said, but don't pick a senator because if you pick a United States Senator,

00:14:49.000 which was my constitutional duty, then they threatened to throw me out of office

00:14:54.000 before Groundhog Day.

00:14:56.000 And that only impeach and remove me, but actually pass a law that targeted against me only,

00:15:01.000 which is still in place, which prohibits me from running for any state

00:15:05.000 or local office.

00:15:06.000 To me, this is so blatantly unconstitutional.

00:15:08.000 So if I picked a senator before they were able to throw me out, They threatened them to throw me out.

00:15:14.000 And I knew they were going to throw me out anyway.

00:15:17.000 And I was determined to pick a senator because I had a job to do.

00:15:20.000 And so I did.

00:15:20.000 I picked Roland Burrs.

00:15:22.000 I'm the first governor since Reconstruction to appoint a black person to the United States Senate.

00:15:25.000 Yes.

00:15:26.000 And they wouldn't take him.

00:15:28.000 And then part of the threats were they sent me a letter from every Democrat senator.

00:15:32.000 Hillary Clinton was on it.

00:15:33.000 Joe Biden was on it.

00:15:34.000 Durbin, our lead senator, was on it.

00:15:36.000 All saying that whoever you send, we're not taking.

00:15:39.000 And so then I sent this black man who was well respected, highly regarded, first black statewide official, was Attorney General of the state of Illinois, in his early 70s, to the United States Senate, and for the first day they wouldn't take him.

00:15:51.000 But America was watching this on live television and they were correctly offended by the fact that

00:15:57.000 the Congress in the age of Obama had no black US senators.

00:16:00.000 Go ahead.

00:16:01.000 Given all these recent events and coming out of the Democrat machine as you did,

00:16:06.000 what advice would you give us conservatives or those of us that wish to elect Donald Trump

00:16:12.000 on how to beat them politically?

00:16:15.000 What are the weaknesses in the Democrat political apparatus?

00:16:20.000 I would say this to begin with.

00:16:22.000 The danger to this kind of stuff that's routine political stuff that now spills into not routine stuff is how they've now weaponized the criminal justice system.

00:16:31.000 See, nothing's sacred.

00:16:32.000 Now they're using that as a political weapon. 0.85

00:16:34.000 And that should not be tolerated because that goes to the very heart of our freedoms as Americans.

00:16:39.000 And it's the destruction of the rule of law and the abuse of the rule of law.

00:16:42.000 So now the state And so it's critical for your supporters, Charlie, to get out there and vote and be active.

00:16:46.000 And how do you beat them?

00:16:48.000 Well, first of all, there's no substitute for just enthusiasm and energy and hard work.

00:16:53.000 Politics is no different from real life.

00:16:54.000 You want to be successful in life, you've got to work hard.

00:16:57.000 So you need your supporters to identify Trump voters.

00:17:00.000 And as we get to the time when people can start voting, you've got to get every single one of those voters out to vote.

00:17:06.000 Take nothing for granted.

00:17:08.000 Trump looks to be in a good position to win, but unless you execute the whole way—this is a marathon, not a sprint—you may lose the chance to win.

00:17:16.000 So, execution.

00:17:17.000 And your young supporters and members of your organization are young enough to get out there, knock on those doors, and do the other things with social media to get people to go vote.

00:17:28.000 That's critical.

00:17:29.000 In terms of messaging and policy, I think President Trump has real professionals around him.

00:17:33.000 I think that's very clear.

00:17:34.000 And I think the contrast between, you know, what the future holds for the Trump presidency and more of the same, the Democrats, I think that's critical.

00:17:44.000 And I would say lastly, I think so many, I think we've hit a point where it's maybe the tipping point where the American people are fed up.

00:17:51.000 And I think this latest episode, with the way they've pushed Biden out and now are pushing, forcing Kamala Harris on us, I think, I think people are realizing finally, Stuff they've been resenting for a long time anyway.

00:18:03.000 That is, they're sick and tired of being told things that they have to believe that they know is not true.

00:18:08.000 We've been lied to for so long by top political figures, too many of them in my party, the Democrat Party, by the media, trying to make you buy and accept things that you know just don't make sense.

00:18:20.000 I think we've hit a point Now, in view of all the events in the last several months, particularly with President Trump and terrorism from two weeks ago, where I think the American people are really rising up, and I would say, Charlie, I think the argument from a message point of view is something like that.

00:18:38.000 Aren't you sick and tired of seeing these people in power abuse the power they have in the institutions that should be sacred in our country?

00:18:47.000 Thank you so much and hope to see you soon.

00:18:49.000 Thank you.

00:18:49.000 do. And I do believe the way they forced Biden out was another example of that.

00:18:53.000 And I think a lot of Americans are seeing it.

00:18:55.000 So these are the things I would say.

00:18:57.000 But one more thing. There's no substitute for hard work.

00:19:00.000 You got to get out there and work your asses off.

00:19:02.000 You do that. The timing is right.

00:19:04.000 The country is ready for change.

00:19:06.000 Trump's the right guy. He's a man of destiny.

00:19:09.000 This is the time. Let's not squander it.

00:19:11.000 Governor McGuivich, thank you so much.

00:19:13.000 And hope to see you soon. Thank you.

00:19:15.000 Thank you, Charlie.

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00:19:50.000 I sat down.

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00:19:51.000 I said, get in the owner game.

00:19:53.000 Honestly, enough renting.

00:19:54.000 You are burning your money renting.

00:19:55.000 It might be a little bit more to own, but you're building equity.

00:19:57.000 That's money you'll have for the rest of your life.

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00:20:34.000 Joining us now is Dr. Mary Talley Bowden, founder of Americans for Health Freedom.

00:20:39.000 And we're here to talk about many different things, but first and foremost, Joe Biden having COVID.

00:20:45.000 Doctor, welcome to the program.

00:20:46.000 You commented on my post saying his medical condition could be related to Pax Vlovid treatments.

00:20:53.000 What did you mean by that?

00:20:54.000 I don't think people realize what a potentially dangerous drug Paxlovid is.

00:20:59.000 It's far more dangerous than alternatives such as ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine.

00:21:05.000 It has 44 severe drug interactions and one of those drugs is with statins, which is the most widely prescribed medication in America.

00:21:16.000 It's toxic to the liver and kidneys.

00:21:18.000 It contains an HIV drug with a black box warning in it.

00:21:22.000 It leaves a very bad metallic taste, so it's poorly tolerated, often stopped early by patients.

00:21:30.000 And then there's a 20% increase of or incidence of rebound infection after you stop taking it.

00:21:37.000 Not to mention that right now Cash price for Pax Lovid is approximately $1,200.

00:21:44.000 So it's really a trash drug, and I would be very reluctant to prescribe it to somebody who's already fragilely compromised, medically compromised, such as Biden.

00:22:01.000 So why do you think they're doing that then? 0.95

00:22:02.000 What would the justification be for that?

00:22:06.000 Well, I mean, that's their primary bullet.

00:22:08.000 That's all they have, really.

00:22:09.000 It's either that or remdesivir.

00:22:11.000 You know, maybe they're sneaking in ivermectin on the side and just telling the public what, you know, they're telling everybody else that they need to take the CDC recommendations.

00:22:22.000 But, you know, the CDC has done a very poor job, and the FDA, of letting the public know the potential risk of taking paxlovin.

00:22:31.000 So, Doctor, tell us more about your work.

00:22:33.000 You've also sued the FDA for interfering with doctor-patient relationships and won.

00:22:38.000 Tell us about that, please.

00:22:39.000 So, FDA launched a smear campaign against ivermectin.

00:22:43.000 They sent out a tweet.

00:22:46.000 You don't even need the caption.

00:22:47.000 It's this attractive healthcare worker nuzzling a horse.

00:22:51.000 And the caption says, seriously, y'all, you're not a horse.

00:22:53.000 You're not a cow.

00:22:54.000 Stop it.

00:22:55.000 Well, that little, you know, they say it was just a little quip, a little cheeky tweet, but it had dire consequences.

00:23:02.000 And subsequent to that tweet, it became virtually impossible for me to prescribe ivermectin.

00:23:08.000 It got me under the radar of the medical board, a fight which I'm still fighting two and a half years later.

00:23:15.000 And it caused a tsunami of problems for COVID patients.

00:23:22.000 And really, it was an invasion in the doctor-patient relationship because the FDA, they're allowed to inform the public about medications, but they're not allowed to tell patients What to take for certain diseases and they're not allowed to tell doctors how to treat their patients.

00:23:39.000 And that's what they did.

00:23:40.000 And so we took them to court and basically we put them back in their lane. 0.96

00:23:46.000 So they had to take down the tweets.

00:23:48.000 They had to take down the misinformation on their website that was telling the public not to take ivermectin for COVID.

00:23:55.000 So we have the original FDA tweet.

00:23:58.000 You're not a cow.

00:23:58.000 You are not a horse.

00:23:59.000 Seriously, y'all, stop it.

00:24:01.000 How many people, doctor, do you speculate unnecessarily died because of the lack of interventions for COVID?

00:24:10.000 Well, yeah, that's hard to say, but I've treated over 6,000 COVID patients and everybody that I treated early within the first week survived, did well.

00:24:21.000 And I even had some patients come in in the second and third week who were really, really sick.

00:24:27.000 But they refused to go to the hospital, and I was able to keep them alive.

00:24:30.000 I mean, these people came in with oxygen saturations in the 50s, you know, really, really sick.

00:24:37.000 So, I mean, it's hard to say how many could have been saved, but a substantial number of people could have been saved with proper early treatment.

00:24:47.000 Well, Doctor, thank you so much for your great work here.

00:24:49.000 I know that, you know, they threatened to take your license away, if I remember correctly.

00:24:54.000 So, in your estimation, the official narrative coming out of the White House, is this consistent with COVID recovery and treatment that you've seen before?

00:25:02.000 Well, do we have an official narrative?

00:25:04.000 I mean, I'm not sure what's going on with him.

00:25:06.000 But if all he has is COVID, and he took his last dose yesterday, he should be fine.

00:25:12.000 He should be ready to get in front of a camera without any problem.

00:25:17.000 The COVID I'm seeing now is mild.

00:25:19.000 I would say it's a little more than a cold, but more like a flu.

00:25:23.000 And it doesn't make sense what's going on with him.

00:25:30.000 Doctor, thank you for your time and thank you for your wonderful work standing up for medical freedom.

00:25:35.000 Very much appreciate it.

00:25:36.000 Thank you so much.

00:25:37.000 Thanks for having me, Charlie.

00:25:40.000 Okay, I want to play another piece of tape here.

00:25:42.000 We have to go through this.

00:25:44.000 Who is Kamala Harris? 0.99

00:25:48.000 She would be the most radical president in American history. 0.96

00:25:51.000 The most radical president in American history.

00:25:55.000 Let's start with this one.

00:25:56.000 She wants to ban fracking. 0.99

00:25:58.000 How's that going to play in Pennsylvania?

00:26:00.000 Banning all fracking.

00:26:02.000 No question.

00:26:03.000 Get rid of all fracking.

00:26:05.000 Play Cut 30.

00:26:06.000 There's no question I'm in favor of banning fracking.

00:26:12.000 And starting with what we can do on day one around public lands, right?

00:26:16.000 And then there has to be legislation.

00:26:18.000 But yes, and this is something I've taken on in California.

00:26:20.000 I have a history of working on this issue.

00:26:22.000 And to your point, we have to just acknowledge that the residual impact of fracking is enormous in terms of the impact on the health and safety of communities.

00:26:32.000 She is a Marxist, a revolutionary communist.

00:26:37.000 Every person who brings up Kamala Harris say, you know, you're going to vote for a communist in the mold of Fidel Castro and Hugo Chavez.

00:26:45.000 She is far more radical than Joe Biden, and she is equally responsible for the border crisis, for the Ukrainian war, for the invasion of our country, for the inflation crisis.

00:26:56.000 The great Stuart Varney breaks it down, play cut 85.

00:26:59.000 Well, she's a classic California liberal. 1.00

00:27:02.000 Her list of issues reads like the socialist playbook of Bernie Sanders.

00:27:05.000 Guaranteed income programs.

00:27:07.000 Rent controls.

00:27:08.000 Taxpayer-funded public college for families making up to $125,000 a year.

00:27:13.000 Wait, there's more.

00:27:14.000 Much more.

00:27:15.000 She supports Medicare for all.

00:27:18.000 And in the 2019 debate, she supported the abolition of private health insurance.

00:27:22.000 Essentially, she wants government control of all healthcare. 1.00

00:27:26.000 She has vocally opposed oil and gas fracking.

00:27:30.000 How's that going to play in Pennsylvania, where fracking is a $5 billion a year business?

00:27:35.000 How about mass migration?

00:27:36.000 Well, she says the root causes are not border policy, oh no.

00:27:41.000 It's corruption, violence and poverty in developing countries, plus, of course, lack of climate adaptation and climate resilience.

00:27:49.000 Support Israel? 0.75

00:27:50.000 Not in public.

00:27:51.000 She will not be there tomorrow when Prime Minister Netanyahu addresses Congress.

00:27:55.000 She's with the pro-Hamas brigade that will boycott.

00:27:59.000 America's principal ally in the Mideast will only get a private meeting with Harris.

00:28:04.000 No wonder the New York Times carries an article today saying the Harris economy could prove more progressive than Bidenomics.

00:28:12.000 More progressive than Bidenomics?

00:28:15.000 Social ban fracking?

00:28:17.000 She will have taxpayer-funded college for families making up to $125,000 a year.

00:28:23.000 Oh, and that's right, she also wants to ban plastic straws. 1.00

00:28:27.000 Play Cut 21.

00:28:28.000 Leaders have to lead and plastic straws are a big thing right now.

00:28:31.000 Yeah.

00:28:32.000 Do you ban plastic straws?

00:28:34.000 I think we should.

00:28:35.000 Yes.

00:28:35.000 I mean, look, I'm going to be honest.

00:28:37.000 It's really difficult to drink out of a paper straw when you had if you're just like if you don't gulp it down immediately, it starts to bend.

00:28:44.000 And then, you know, the little thing catches it.

00:28:46.000 And then, you know, so we got to kind of perfect that one a little bit more.

00:28:52.000 So you'd ban it, but rely on innovation?

00:28:54.000 I mean, we got it.

00:28:55.000 Yeah, innovation is a process, right?

00:28:57.000 You don't just do it.

00:28:59.000 Innovation is a process.

00:29:01.000 Not only that, she wants to take your guns away. 1.00

00:29:04.000 Every single gun owner in the country, be on alert.

00:29:07.000 Play cut 83.

00:29:09.000 To reject the false notion that suggests you're either in favor of the Second Amendment or you want to take everyone's guns away.

00:29:15.000 When in fact, it's just reasonable.

00:29:16.000 I support the Second Amendment, but it's reasonable to say we need an assault weapons ban.

00:29:21.000 It's reasonable to say we need universal background checks.

00:29:25.000 That we need red flag laws.

00:29:27.000 Assault weapon ban.

00:29:28.000 What is an assault weapon?

00:29:29.000 Someone should ask Cami that.

00:29:31.000 How do you define an assault weapon?

00:29:33.000 Is a knife an assault weapon?

00:29:34.000 Is a bat an assault weapon? 0.79

00:29:36.000 There is no technical term of what an assault weapon is.

00:29:38.000 Is a pistol an assault weapon?

00:29:40.000 She would execute the greatest gun grab in American history. 0.93

00:29:42.000 Every gun owner in the country.

00:29:44.000 Understand, she will come for your guns and also your children.

00:29:48.000 She would do the California-style grooming, kidnapping policies that we've seen from Scott Weiner and Gavin Newsom. 1.00

00:29:54.000 The entire border would remain wide open.

00:29:56.000 She is far more radical.

00:30:00.000 And more extreme than anything we have seen in these last couple of years.

00:30:04.000 She would be the death blow, the finishing punch to the United States of America. 0.88

00:30:10.000 And she's just getting started. 0.63

00:30:12.000 And she will cackle her way all the way through. 0.94

00:30:15.000 A vote for Kamala Harris is a vote for a candidate in the mold of Castro, of Chavez. 0.97

00:30:21.000 She would make Obama look moderate.

00:30:25.000 And she would bring Mao Zedong's template to America. 0.95

00:30:31.000 So we broke this story yesterday about Biden's potential mini stroke in Vegas.

00:30:36.000 The regime media ignored it, but Jordan Schachtel from dossier.today substack looked into it and affirmed our reporting.

00:30:48.000 Jordan, welcome to the program.

00:30:49.000 Jordan, what did you learn of what happened in Vegas?

00:30:53.000 Hey, Charlie, thanks for having me.

00:30:54.000 And I want to give a shout out to the team at Turning Point Action and yourself for coordinating a lot of this and getting a lot of these law enforcement officials and officers and employees to really vouch for, at least behind the scenes, this report that Biden suffered from some kind of medical incident while he was in Vegas.

00:31:19.000 The Biden White House says he had COVID.

00:31:22.000 Therefore, canceled his plans, went home early, tested positive, feeling fine.

00:31:27.000 But the stories we continued to hear from all sorts of sources in Las Vegas, who all kind of had their independent corroborations because a lot of this went out over police, encrypted police radio.

00:31:41.000 And our sources say that there's hundreds of officers and employees, specifically at the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department, who heard these dispatches.

00:31:50.000 So any corporate media reporter can easily verify what we're saying here.

00:31:54.000 The reality is that, you know, they heard that there was an emergency and they were clearing away for UMC Hospital in Las Vegas, which is a Tier 1 trauma center.

00:32:05.000 And then something came out over the radio a few minutes later that, no, they actually needed to expedite a route for Harry Reid Airport in Las Vegas.

00:32:14.000 So they got him out of there really quickly.

00:32:16.000 They brought in surge teams, which are basically outside support, to make sure that happened.

00:32:23.000 So this wasn't just a run-of-the-mill Positive COVID test and suddenly, you know, Biden's just not going to show up to these things.

00:32:30.000 And instead of going to the conference, he's just going to make his way to the airport.

00:32:34.000 This was understood as an emergency situation that unfolded last Wednesday before he was scheduled to speak at this major conference for his campaign.

00:32:47.000 So, Jordan, help me understand.

00:32:50.000 How is it possible that the entire White House press pool didn't leak, report, or tweet about this?

00:32:58.000 This is a conspiracy, is it not?

00:33:00.000 It's really unfortunate the corporate media has had no interest in this story.

00:33:04.000 I mean, we just saw apparently proof of life after six days of Biden being holed up in his house in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, and after basically surrendering the presidency to Kamala Harris without a photo or a video.

00:33:17.000 You know, they declare everyone a conspiracy theorist for asking these basic questions for doing real reporting.

00:33:23.000 And they just, you know, take their narratives from the, you know, the Beltway people and politicians and lobbyists inside Washington, D.C.

00:33:32.000 They simply have no interest in the truth.

00:33:34.000 And they definitely have no interest in overstepping the line and questioning the president's mental

00:33:41.000 and physical fortitude was always overstepping the line until it became convenient when Donald

00:33:48.000 Trump smoked him so badly in the debate that they started to panic and then suddenly it

00:33:53.000 was okay to talk about it.

00:33:54.000 So now everyone's knifing Biden, but we've known about these problems for a long time

00:33:58.000 and the corporate media has never reported on them.

00:34:01.000 So they cover up a major medical emergency four days before he drops out of the presidential

00:34:06.000 This is a massive story, one of the biggest in American history, and yet it requires us, Jordan, you know, kind of this cavalier group of reporters to do it, and not a single reporter for the New York Times, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, Politico, CBS, ABC, NBC want to touch it?

00:34:23.000 Yeah, I mean, as you've seen, not only did they not touch it, they then send out their fact-check goons to label us, you know, purveyors of disinformation and conspiracy theorists in order to smear us and, you know, try to chip away at our advertisers and get us downranked in Google search results.

00:34:41.000 So, you know, it's really just like this Stalinist-like information campaign that the media is running against Real journalists, citizen journalists, concerned citizens, people who are kind of just looking at the evidence of a president who's mightily struggling to get by every day of his life, very sadly, being abused by his family, and calling us crazy for noticing these obvious realities.

00:35:06.000 And then when we source stories, they will completely ignore it if it doesn't fit their narrative.

00:35:11.000 Jordan, excellent work.

00:35:12.000 Check it out, dossier.today, Substack.

00:35:14.000 Thank you for your work, your journalism.

00:35:16.000 There is some video now of Joe Biden walking out of the car, so he's alive.

00:35:22.000 Whether or not he's doing well is a different question.

00:35:26.000 Okay, thanks so much.

00:35:27.000 Jordan, really appreciate it.

00:35:28.000 Thanks, Charlie.

00:35:32.000 Hey everybody, Charlie Kirk here.

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00:36:35.000 Okay.

00:36:36.000 Okay.

00:36:36.000 Joe Biden is alive.

00:36:37.000 He came out of a car and walked up to Air Force One.

00:36:41.000 He's alive, but is he well?

00:36:43.000 And are we being told the truth?

00:36:46.000 Joining us now is Jennifer Van Laar from Red State.

00:36:51.000 Does a great job.

00:36:52.000 She was another one that we sent this story to and she ran it down.

00:36:54.000 Jennifer, thank you so much for taking the time.

00:36:57.000 What did you learn in the course of your reporting?

00:36:59.000 We learned through some Las Vegas Metro PD sources that what you had reported was correct as far as the The streets being shut down, the plans to take him to University Medical Centers and that suddenly changing and him going straight to the tarmac.

00:37:13.000 And then from a separate source in a position to know about Joe Biden's security detail and those plans, they said that what happened was he had displayed some stroke-like symptoms while he was at that Mexican restaurant before he was supposed to go to another speaking engagement.

00:37:30.000 So they thought that he might be starting to have a stroke and that's why they Quickly, we're trying to get him to the trauma center.

00:37:37.000 But while they were in the car, the doctor that travels with Biden said that they believed that it was not a full stroke.

00:37:44.000 And it was so it was something that could be treated on board Air Force One while they were heading back to Delaware.

00:37:51.000 And even at first, they were thinking they might just go to Johns Hopkins, because that's a pretty well known place to be able to get good treatment for neurological Issues like that, but that that wasn't end up not being necessary.

00:38:03.000 So they believe that it was a transient ischemic attack, like a mini stroke that he had suffered.

00:38:09.000 So Jennifer, again, it's kind of hard to decipher because he always looks like he has stroke-like symptoms, just him walking to do a press conference.

00:38:18.000 So it's hard to decipher, you know, stroke-like Biden and not stroke-like Biden.

00:38:21.000 But this is one of the biggest stories of the century where you have a president who's not running for re-election and has a medical emergency in Vegas.

00:38:29.000 So can we now say definitively that Joe Biden had a medical emergency episode in Las Vegas?

00:38:36.000 I would feel comfortable saying that for sure.

00:38:38.000 And so if that is correct, why was it or why is it that not a single reporter seems to care from the New York Times, Washington Post, NBC, ABC, CBS?

00:38:49.000 Instead, they all actively covered this up.

00:38:53.000 Well, they've been covering it up for three plus years, and so they would have to then start admitting just how wrong they've been.

00:38:59.000 They have started to admit that since the terrible debate performance, but at this point, they hate Donald Trump so much and have so little confidence in Kamala that I believe until they were forced to have to have confidence in Kamala, they were going to do everything they could to keep that from getting out.

00:39:18.000 And that's also the reason why Biden's team, even though it was maybe risky to go ahead and put him on Air Force One instead of getting full scans at that trauma center, they knew that there would be more potential for leaks.

00:39:30.000 If they went to this medical center instead of the tightly controlled environment on Air Force One, and also if he's seen at the hospital, it's harder to say that this was just COVID as the reason why he was cutting this trip short.

00:39:44.000 And I appreciate what you'd say about Biden's normal way of presenting himself. 0.61

00:39:48.000 Perhaps he started slurring or even more, or maybe he had facial jerk.

00:39:53.000 I don't know.

00:39:53.000 I personally, I don't have any way to confirm this, but I would think that part of the reason he's been kept out of the public eye is maybe there was some kind of very visible damage that people would see immediately.

00:40:04.000 And that's why he hasn't been seen.

00:40:07.000 So now the torch has been handed to Kamala Harris.

00:40:10.000 I've been telling people this, and for anyone that will listen, oh, Kamala's going to be easy to beat. 0.66

00:40:14.000 People say, no, no, no, Reuters.com.

00:40:16.000 Harris leads Trump 44% to 42% U.S.

00:40:19.000 presidential race.

00:40:20.000 So now Harris is the front runner.

00:40:21.000 According to a Reuters poll, it could be an outlier or it could be the new norm.

00:40:25.000 And so your reaction, Jennifer?

00:40:27.000 I mean, if you heard it all, I started laughing when you said that she's hella front runner. 0.97

00:40:31.000 I think that's got, I need to see the cross tabs on that.

00:40:35.000 I don't believe that for a minute.

00:40:37.000 Uh, there could just be a momentary blip too, but she's only getting good press right now.

00:40:42.000 But as we saw when she ran for president, she was the first one to drop out.

00:40:46.000 She didn't even make it to the first primary. 0.98

00:40:48.000 She had terrible support there.

00:40:49.000 She's not good on a stage. 1.00

00:40:51.000 She's not good being questioned.

00:40:53.000 So if she does have, say this is a true, The correct poll.

00:40:57.000 It won't last long.

00:41:00.000 I hope you're right.

00:41:01.000 I hope that is correct.

00:41:02.000 Let's play this now unearthed piece of tape of Kamala Harris endorsing free stuff for illegals and foreigners. 1.00

00:41:09.000 You break in the country, Kamala Harris will give you a bunch of free stuff.

00:41:13.000 Play cut 101.

00:41:16.000 The bill also says, quote, every individual who is a resident of the United States is entitled to benefits for health care services under this act.

00:41:24.000 Not every individual who's a citizen, but every individual who's a resident.

00:41:28.000 So you support giving universal health care, Medicare for all, to people who are in this country illegally? 0.98

00:41:34.000 Let me just be very clear about this.

00:41:37.000 I am opposed to any policy that would deny in our country any human being from access to public safety, public education, or public health.

00:41:48.000 Period.

00:41:50.000 So just so everyone understands, the native-born Americans who live here and pay taxes have to have their taxes raised and pay more because a Nicaraguan or Venezuelan broke into our home and then they get subsidized benefits. 0.95

00:42:05.000 Jennifer, your reaction?

00:42:06.000 That's how she has been ever since she was San Francisco DA.

00:42:10.000 It's not hard to look back at how she Treated American citizens as less than when she was San Francisco D.A. 1.00

00:42:17.000 She refused to prosecute various drunk driving crimes or driving without a license or that kind of thing, which are misdemeanors, but often if they were undocumented, as she likes to call them.

00:42:29.000 She just wouldn't prosecute that because at that time, 2008-2009 timeframe, those kind of things would bring someone to the attention of ICE and get them deported.

00:42:38.000 And she didn't want that.

00:42:39.000 And so I actually have a friend of mine whose son was killed by one of these illegals in San Francisco, who had been arrested for things like drunk driving or driving without a license multiple times. 0.97

00:42:50.000 This guy ran over my friend's son, who was riding a motorcycle, backed up, ran over him again, because he knew that he was gonna get caught.

00:42:58.000 Kamala's office took the vehicular manslaughter charge, put it down to a misdemeanor, and this guy didn't even get deported.

00:43:05.000 And yet, this family now, it's been, gosh, about 15 years, they're still without their son.

00:43:10.000 It's just unbelievable, hard to grasp.

00:43:13.000 Jennifer, how do people support your work and find out what you are doing?

00:43:16.000 At redstate.com or on Twitter, at JenDanLar.

00:43:19.000 Jennifer, thank you so much for your time.

00:43:20.000 I appreciate it.

00:43:21.000 Thank you.

00:43:22.000 Okay, let's play another piece of tape here of Kamala Harris. 1.00

00:43:26.000 Kamala continues to say that we want to ban assault weapons, ban fracking, ban plastic straws.

00:43:33.000 Oh yes, she was also the border czar.

00:43:37.000 She is the most radical vice president in American history, and she would be the most radical president in American history. 0.87

00:43:44.000 She's a communist.

00:43:46.000 You elect her, you will have a communist president of the United States. 0.97

00:43:50.000 Let's go to cut 39. 0.68

00:43:54.000 Do not come.

00:43:55.000 Do you have any plans to visit the border?

00:43:59.000 I'm here in Guatemala today.

00:44:00.000 At some point, you know, we are going to the border.

00:44:05.000 We've been to the border.

00:44:06.000 So this whole, this whole, this whole thing about the border, we've been to the border.

00:44:11.000 You haven't been to the border.

00:44:13.000 And I haven't been to Europe.

00:44:17.000 I don't understand the point that you're making.

00:44:19.000 She comes across as really likable.

00:44:21.000 Do not underestimate the power of the Democrat machine.

00:44:24.000 Do not underestimate it.

00:44:25.000 New Reuters poll shows Kamala Harris up two points on Donald Trump.

00:44:29.000 Do not fall too deep into the horse race.

00:44:32.000 Understand you're running up against a communist who cackles, and she's from California, and she wants the rest of the country to become communist like California. 0.70

00:44:40.000 And we must ignore the polls and get to work.

00:44:43.000 Chase ballots.

00:44:44.000 Find new voters.

00:44:45.000 The grassroots grittiness is what is going to win or lose this.

00:44:50.000 It is a machine versus a movement, and the Democrat machine has been brought back to life.

00:44:55.000 They still have their convention coming up, which because of all their backroom deals, they're going to keep it very calm and very chill.

00:45:03.000 They're not going to allow Chicago to be 1968 Chicago.

00:45:07.000 They're going to plug in a new puppet and their machine will be fully activated.

00:45:11.000 So it's going to come down to how much grassroots energy and grassroots muscle does our side have.

00:45:17.000 And any complacency that we have, we need to snap out of it.

00:45:21.000 I understand that this is a hard news cycle for some people, but it's about to become a, this is going to become a political trench war.

00:45:29.000 We are not even at halftime of this right now.

00:45:31.000 We are not even at halftime.

00:45:34.000 And I'm afraid our side is already trying to measure the drapes.

00:45:36.000 Oh, this is what Trump's going to do when he's president.

00:45:38.000 No, no, no, not, you got to snap yourself out of it.

00:45:41.000 We are not working hard enough.

00:45:42.000 I'm telling you right now, myself included.

00:45:45.000 No more red wave landslide.

00:45:47.000 All of that was under the Biden stuff.

00:45:49.000 We're talking about, we might win by a couple thousand votes here or there.

00:45:52.000 We've got to get to work.

00:45:54.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:45:55.000 Email us as always freedom at charliekirk.com.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - July 23, 2024

How Joe Biden got the Chicago Treatment ft. Gov. Rod Balojevich, Dr. Mary Talley Bowden, Jordan Schachtel, Jennifer Van Laar

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