The Charlie Kirk Show - How Many People Did the War on Ivermectin Kill?

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00:01:48.000 It is Dr. Pierre Corey.

00:01:49.000 Dr. Corey, welcome back to the program.

00:01:51.000 I wanted to have you on for several stories.

00:01:53.000 We'll start with this.

00:01:54.000 Texas doctors force FDA to remove COVID-19 posts in settlement.

00:02:00.000 What's going on here?

00:02:01.000 Yeah, imagine that.

00:02:03.000 So basically, you know, the FDA, this was a court case about how the FDA overstepped their statutory authority.

00:02:10.000 They have no business interfering in the practice of medicine or impacting how we practice medicine.

00:02:15.000 They're a regulatory agency that approves pharmaceutical products.

00:02:19.000 And here in the middle of COVID, they suddenly come out and they start slamming ivermectin, essentially giving recommendations.

00:02:25.000 And, you know, my colleague, Mary Tally Bowden, you know, she, you know, after that FDA, those actions, first of all, that tweet, right?

00:02:34.000 Suddenly pharmacists wouldn't fill.

00:02:35.000 Hospitals were removing it from their formula.

00:02:37.000 It's like the most attacked and vilified medicine happens to be one of the safest in history.

00:02:41.000 And so you got to understand what's, you know, we have to ask what's going on there.

00:02:44.000 But she has recorded videos and audio of pharmacists indignantly and arrogantly refusing to fill valid legal prescriptions, citing this supposed FDA opinion.

00:02:55.000 And Charlie, it is so absurd.

00:02:57.000 I mean, the FDA admitted on their page that they had not reviewed the evidence for ivermectin, yet they come out and literally warning people away from using it.

00:03:06.000 I mean, there's a bigger story behind this, Charlie.

00:03:10.000 It's not just the FDA, but we can get into that in a second.

00:03:13.000 We have seen example after example of government malfeasance, but it's more than that, Dr. Corey.

00:03:20.000 It is the private sector, this oligopoly that merged with government.

00:03:25.000 And that was the eye-opener for so many people was that the bodies that were supposed to be doing the regular, and you're pointing towards yourself.

00:03:32.000 Tell us about that, Dr. Corey, because we used to think that there was an antagonistic or at least somewhat of a conflicting relationship between the regulators and the regulated, but it turns as if it was hand in glove.

00:03:45.000 That's exactly right.

00:03:46.000 And I had no idea of this Charlie before COVID.

00:03:49.000 You know, in my book, I write about my transformation.

00:03:52.000 I mean, going into COVID, I literally trusted the agencies.

00:03:55.000 I thought they were doing public health.

00:03:56.000 I thought their advice was sound coming from experts that are deeply studied.

00:03:59.000 I believe the medical journals, that if you got your paper into the highest impact medical journals, that that was like squeaky, clean, tight, good science.

00:04:08.000 And I've discovered that that's not the case.

00:04:10.000 You are absolutely right.

00:04:11.000 We are under massive federal regulatory capture by the pharmaceutical industry.

00:04:15.000 I mean, they're not public health agencies.

00:04:17.000 They literally work for the service of the pharmaceutical industry.

00:04:21.000 And you can see those actions, right?

00:04:23.000 So, you know, probably in this FDA case and that horse tweet, right?

00:04:27.000 You are not a horse, you're not a cow, stop it, y'all.

00:04:30.000 There's a chapter in my book called the Horse Dewormer PR Campaign.

00:04:33.000 And I think it's really important that people understand what happened in August of 2021.

00:04:37.000 So that tweet goes out August 21st, 2021.

00:04:41.000 And that tweet came out a week after a report showed that ivermectin prescriptions were hitting 90,000 a week in the U.S.

00:04:49.000 So pharma starting to get scared, right?

00:04:51.000 Because ivermectin threatens everything in COVID, the whole market for vaccines, Pax Low with Nolmilpiruvir, remdesimir.

00:04:57.000 I mean, if we had widespread use of ivermectin, hospitals would empty, you wouldn't need any of these vaccines, you wouldn't need all these, you know, silly pipeline pharmaceuticals.

00:05:06.000 And so ivermectin has a lot of enemies.

00:05:08.000 And they went into action in August of 2021, started off with that tweet, which later became the most popular tweet in FDA history.

00:05:15.000 Five days after that, August 26th, CDC sends out a memo to every state licensing board, which then gets sent to every licensed physician in the states.

00:05:23.000 And in that memo, they talk about a rise in calls to poison control centers.

00:05:28.000 Two investigative journals looked into that.

00:05:30.000 They said it was like a 70% rise.

00:05:32.000 When they actually called the poison control centers, it was something like an increase of like two to three calls.

00:05:36.000 I mean, it was absolutely absurd.

00:05:38.000 So you have the FDA with the tweet, CDC with this nonsense memo, and then three days later, Dr. Fauci of the NIH traveled out onto Jake Tapper and, you know, Nightly News.

00:05:48.000 And he says, you know, do not use this medicine.

00:05:51.000 There's no clinical evidence that this works.

00:05:53.000 You know, and so you see a concerted, synchronized action over a 10-day period by the three agencies, right?

00:06:01.000 And then after Fauci goes out on CNN, we're bombarded with a PR campaign for weeks.

00:06:06.000 Every late night talk show host, every news broadcaster is hammering this horse dewormer narrative that they're just pumping into our brains repeatedly.

00:06:15.000 And, you know, guess who got COVID three days after that Fauci interview?

00:06:19.000 Mr. Joe Rogan, right?

00:06:21.000 So Rogan became the poster child for ivermectin because it's in the middle of this massive PR campaign trying to tell Americans not to and doctors not to use ivermectin.

00:06:30.000 And it's absolutely absurd.

00:06:31.000 I mean, people, you have any idea have been lost because of this attack on ivermectin.

00:06:37.000 It's been an absolute tragedy.

00:06:38.000 Oh, it has been.

00:06:39.000 And just for the record here, Joe Rogan did a moral good for humanity for holding the ground the way he did.

00:06:48.000 Dr. Corey, I don't know if we would have been able to long-term win on ivermectin if it wasn't for Rogan, because he dug in.

00:06:54.000 In fact, I hope people remember Neil Young, amongst other musicians, went off of Spotify over ivermectin.

00:07:03.000 That's how big of a deal this was.

00:07:06.000 You know, there's so many crisis and crisis, Ukraine and the border.

00:07:09.000 We just forget this was the number one news story for weeks.

00:07:14.000 And it's a tragedy because Dr. Corey, they didn't argue with medical literature.

00:07:20.000 They didn't argue looking at empirical data.

00:07:23.000 They argued like the mob would with a blunt, forced instrument.

00:07:29.000 Yep.

00:07:30.000 And, you know, this is the scariest thing.

00:07:32.000 This is why as a physician, I've been transformed.

00:07:34.000 I'm a bit estranged from medicine now, but their biggest weapon, you use the word weapon, Charlie, their biggest weapon were the high-impact medical journals.

00:07:42.000 I had no idea how compromised and controlled those journals are, but you didn't see any positive ivermectin studies being published in the highest impact journals.

00:07:51.000 They only published these huge pharma-conflicted studies, which were designed to show no efficacy.

00:07:58.000 They had a lot of difficulty showing that.

00:08:00.000 You could actually find the benefits in the trials.

00:08:02.000 They just weren't statistically significant.

00:08:04.000 Every time they got published, there's a chapter in my book called The Big Six, because it was literally six big trials of ivermectin.

00:08:09.000 Same design, same conduct, late treatment, low dose, short treatment, mildest patients.

00:08:16.000 And every time one of those got published, huge ripplings of PR across the media sphere, like newspapers, television says, you know, latest high-quality, rigorous trial of ivermectin shows it doesn't work.

00:08:27.000 And here I am sitting with thousands of doctors around the world.

00:08:30.000 We know ivermectin is slaying COVID.

00:08:33.000 I mean, my patients are turning around so quickly.

00:08:36.000 And yet I'm watching the high-impact medical journals publish lies.

00:08:40.000 And that really transformed most of the physician community, not only in this country, but in the world.

00:08:46.000 All the academics, they look at those papers.

00:08:49.000 We venerate those journals.

00:08:50.000 Yes, they're treated with holy.

00:08:53.000 Yes.

00:08:54.000 Yep.

00:08:55.000 It's sad.

00:08:55.000 And so I thought they were sacred.

00:08:58.000 And now I have a very different view of them.

00:09:00.000 I have a lot of difficulty reading papers in those trials.

00:09:03.000 And just for your audience, Charlie, I'm not the first person who said this.

00:09:09.000 Marcia Angel, she's a former 20-year editor of the number one medical journal in the world, the New England Journal of Medicine.

00:09:16.000 She left that post in 2001 to write a book about how the pharmaceutical industry is deceiving us.

00:09:23.000 And she said over half of what's published in those journals are not true.

00:09:28.000 They are false.

00:09:29.000 And never could that have been more accurate than without ivermectin.

00:09:32.000 So let's talk about this.

00:09:33.000 You know, how did this happen with the medical journals in particular?

00:09:37.000 Because we're talking about regulatory capture, institutional capture, academic capture.

00:09:42.000 Is it that, is it, Dr. Corey, that there was a fair amount of intimidation, trust of the agencies, and there is so much, there's so much muscle memory built in behind vaccine technology that vaccines are the greatest medical breakthrough the last hundred years.

00:09:59.000 And anything that might compromise or deteriorate or question the efficacy or the necessity of mass inoculation is anti-science.

00:10:09.000 Yes.

00:10:10.000 So that was a new one.

00:10:12.000 That kind of forced that dynamic you're talking about is a new one.

00:10:14.000 But, you know, with ivermectin, you can just put the vaccines aside.

00:10:19.000 Off-patent, repurposed drugs that we use off-label are the Achilles heel of the pharmaceutical treaty and always have been, right?

00:10:25.000 And ivermectin threatened the profits of all those products I already talked about, but in particular the vaccines, right?

00:10:31.000 This, you know, obviously we know that this is a bioweapon, whether it was accidentally released or purposely, we don't know.

00:10:38.000 But this was a weaponized virus, gain of function is bioweapons research.

00:10:42.000 And, you know, there was a very large military component to the response.

00:10:46.000 And so you're right.

00:10:47.000 I mean, one of the public health goals was to combat vaccine hesitancy.

00:10:51.000 And I will tell you, knowledge of a safe, cheap, widely available medication could not only prevent, but treat COVID.

00:10:59.000 If the population knew that, what do you think would happen to vaccine hesitancy?

00:11:02.000 And you're right.

00:11:03.000 And going back to the journals, I have a chapter in my book called The Editorial Mafia.

00:11:08.000 And like, to your point, I don't even know if they had to send a memo.

00:11:12.000 It's been practiced for years.

00:11:14.000 They don't publish good evidence on safe, repurposed, nutraceuticals, vitamins.

00:11:20.000 That's not where you're going to find science.

00:11:21.000 They don't publish that kind of stuff.

00:11:22.000 No, no, no, never.

00:11:24.000 They know.

00:11:24.000 They know not to do it.

00:11:26.000 So you don't have to tell them.

00:11:27.000 And it's not just money.

00:11:28.000 I hope people, there is a money aspect for it, but the way that physicians are trained, that it is so one-track mind, so singular-minded, that if there is any vaccine that might be available, that you cannot question it.

00:11:44.000 And that is the only solution.

00:11:45.000 Not the fact that people need to lose weight or vitamin D levels or azithromycin or baby aspirin, all these different interventions.

00:11:55.000 How many lives were unnecessarily lost during COVID because of the war on ivermectin and early treatments?

00:12:01.000 I would say somewhere near 90% of those died could have been saved with early treatments.

00:12:09.000 And I am saying not just ivermectin, because although I wrote the book, The War on Ivermectin, one of my colleagues could have written a book, The War on Hydroxychloroquine, because it was the same war, same tactics, same results.

00:12:19.000 And hydroxy was in play from early on.

00:12:21.000 And we had a national distribution program starting in whatever, February, March of 2020.

00:12:26.000 I mean, this pandemic would be a completely different experience.

00:12:30.000 We would not have seen the dying that we did.

00:12:32.000 It just would have been transformative.

00:12:35.000 But, you know, they've been attacking safe, repurpose drugs throughout.

00:12:38.000 And they always have and always will.

00:12:40.000 And a lot of people died.

00:12:41.000 Check out his book, The War on Ivermectin.

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00:14:12.000 So Dr. Corey, I have to ask, the last four years, what I have learned from you and what I have seen has triggered more skepticism about things that I consider to be true.

00:14:26.000 So for example, have our regulatory agencies been telling us the truth about the childhood vaccination schedule?

00:14:33.000 Again, I have no strong opinions on this, but I look at the amount of vaccines that they push on kids.

00:14:38.000 Am I thinking correctly, Dr. Corey?

00:14:40.000 100%.

00:14:41.000 And so if you haven't, I think you said you haven't, you're not sure about this.

00:14:45.000 So again, as I was talking to before, Charlie, going into COVID, my children, three daughters, fully vaccinated, the whole schedule, everything, never question vaccines.

00:14:55.000 They are, you know, what the greatest medical intervention ever.

00:14:59.000 And after watching the behaviors and what happened around the COVID vaccine and then starting to, you know, meet people, seriously, deeply study people who've, you know, now I'm kind of in this medical freedom movement.

00:15:12.000 And I started to meet deeply studied people on childhood vaccines.

00:15:15.000 And the truth about the childhood vaccines and that schedule is as nightmarish as the COVID vaccines.

00:15:21.000 I mean, almost the whole vaccine, I would say, industry is built on myths.

00:15:27.000 There's no science to show that the vaccines had any appreciable impact on death or rates of cases of most childhood disease.

00:15:35.000 And then to your point just now, when you see those posters and those graphics of the amount of vaccines, like when I was a kid, I was born in 1970.

00:15:43.000 I think it was like eight or 11 injections.

00:15:46.000 And now the scheduled hopeful is up to 78.

00:15:49.000 That's correct.

00:15:49.000 I mean, 78 different injections for our children.

00:15:52.000 And most, almost all of them started exploding after they got immunity from liability in 1986.

00:15:59.000 And so there's an onslaught of this vaccine industry trying to put a needle into every arm for every possible condition.

00:16:05.000 And our health is suffering.

00:16:08.000 I mean, Bobby Kennedy talks about this all the time.

00:16:09.000 I mean, chronic illness rates, autism rates have exploded.

00:16:13.000 And it's all coincident with the explosion in that schedule.

00:16:16.000 So, I mean, it is doing immense damage to us on a chronic basis.

00:16:20.000 And I find the whole thing really scary.

00:16:22.000 And I'll tell you here, Charlie, I'm going to say it right now.

00:16:25.000 If I had young children today, they would not receive one single childhood vaccine, period.

00:16:31.000 End of story.

00:16:32.000 Wow, that's a big statement.

00:16:34.000 And Dr. Corey, you would not have even thought of that.

00:16:37.000 I mean, you fully vaccinated all your kids.

00:16:38.000 And so does that include polio and hepatitis B and pneumococcal pneumonia?

00:16:46.000 100%.

00:16:47.000 The risks outweigh the benefits, number one.

00:16:50.000 Number two, for your readers, if they're interested to see the veracity of this statement, I highly recommend a book called Turtles All the Way Down, translated by Mary Holland.

00:17:00.000 It's written by, carefully here, Charlie, it's written by five anonymous Israeli researchers.

00:17:06.000 And this is an immensely interesting book.

00:17:09.000 It's comprehensive.

00:17:10.000 It's deeply referenced.

00:17:12.000 And it goes into about every aspect and issue and question around each one of those vaccines.

00:17:17.000 The polio story is a fascinating story.

00:17:20.000 Most of what was called polio back then was not polio.

00:17:23.000 It was not infectious.

00:17:24.000 It was actually DDT or insecticide poisoning.

00:17:27.000 I mean, polio is the only childhood disease which exploded in the 1900s while all of the other childhood diseases started going down.

00:17:34.000 So someone needs to answer me that question.

00:17:36.000 And it was much more common in rural areas than crowded urban areas.

00:17:40.000 So I don't want to go too far down the polio thing, but Charlie, the moth of the iron lung that people can check out.

00:17:47.000 But please continue, Dr. Corey.

00:17:48.000 Yeah.

00:17:49.000 Yeah, no, but that book, Turtles All the Way Down, is what truly opened my eyes.

00:17:53.000 There's another book called Dissolving Illusions, again, deeply referenced.

00:17:56.000 And you learn the truth of that we have been propagated a myth, and particularly in medical school.

00:18:03.000 I mean, there's no training on vaccines in medical.

00:18:05.000 There's no education on it.

00:18:06.000 It's just this is the schedule.

00:18:08.000 It's good for kids.

00:18:10.000 And they've already been proven to be safe and effective and eradicating diseases.

00:18:13.000 And none of those things are true, not safe, not effective, and has not eradicated diseases in our history.

00:18:19.000 I know a lot of families that are thinking that way, but just the pediatric bullying that occurs in this country over vaccines.

00:18:28.000 Can you comment on that?

00:18:30.000 Oh, for sure.

00:18:32.000 I mean, they've weaponized this whole vaccine intervention to the point where like they've infested state legislatures.

00:18:39.000 You have states all over the country passing laws requiring every childhood, you know, every school-aged child to receive this whole battery of vaccines.

00:18:47.000 Exemptions, they weaponize anyone who goes after exemptions.

00:18:50.000 Like in California, if you submit four or more exemptions, you're going to get investigated as a doctor.

00:18:56.000 Other states, they've outlawed exemptions.

00:18:59.000 And so, I mean, this battery that they're doing, I mean, and every PD, and then there's pediatrician, Charlie, that will not accept a family or a child into their practice if the parents do not want them to get vaccinated.

00:19:13.000 Luckily, there are some.

00:19:14.000 They're hard to find.

00:19:15.000 There are other pediatricians who are very supportive and welcoming of those children in those families.

00:19:19.000 But if you don't want to get your kid vaccinated, your life is going to be difficult.

00:19:25.000 I mean, you're probably looking at homeschooling in many states or moving to a different state.

00:19:30.000 So many parents ask me, they say, you know, what can I do?

00:19:34.000 Because I don't feel as if I want to give my kid every single one of these shots.

00:19:38.000 And even more tragically, Dr. Corey, I have parents that come up to me and say, my kid was doing just fine until they got the second dose of the MMR vaccine, and my kid had a seizure, or my kid started acting differently.

00:19:51.000 And we don't even listen to those people.

00:19:53.000 We act as if those, you know, those sort of side effects just don't exist.

00:19:57.000 Yeah, I mean, my life now and where I travel, and I guess, Charlie, you have the same experiences.

00:20:02.000 I mean, I know just so many parents of vaccine-injured children, and their lives have been, you know, it's not that they were just injured.

00:20:10.000 And the child that they brought home from the pediatrician's office is not the child that they brought there, but they are transformed for the rest of their lives.

00:20:18.000 You know, there are parents who have children who need total care and everything happened after the vaccine.

00:20:23.000 And, you know, yes, you want to dismiss this as exceedingly rare and just a tragic, unfortunate circumstance.

00:20:29.000 That's the issue.

00:20:30.000 You know, we talked about the control and capture of the journals and the agencies.

00:20:33.000 I mean, you know, if you watch the documentary VAX, you know, with Dell Big Tree, I mean, they have the story of a CDC whistleblower.

00:20:40.000 They had definitive evidence that the vaccines cause autism.

00:20:44.000 They shredded that data and he came out and tried to blow the whistle.

00:20:47.000 You don't hear it.

00:20:48.000 The media never picks it up.

00:20:50.000 I mean, this is really dark stuff around these vaccines.

00:20:53.000 And I want to get the truth out.

00:20:55.000 These people need voices.

00:20:56.000 They need to be heard.

00:20:57.000 And let me finish with this, Charlie, is that's the one good thing about this topic we're talking about is that what happened in COVID, this overreach, this totalitarianism, and what they did has many Americans now questioning, wondering.

00:21:10.000 And there's information out there to find out the truth and really be able to take good actions and have good guidance to keep yourself and your family healthy.

00:21:17.000 Yeah, more and more families are saying no, and there are more and more independent operating pediatricians that are leaving the big conglomerates and they're doing one-off consultations and they're taking families that believe in medical freedom.

00:21:31.000 Dr. Corey, last question.

00:21:33.000 Has anybody apologized to you for being wrong?

00:21:38.000 Absolutely not.

00:21:40.000 Not one.

00:21:41.000 Not one.

00:21:42.000 I'm trying to think of if we've gotten an email into like my nonprofit organization saying, I didn't believe you at first and now I do, but I can't recall an apology or a recognition of fault or error.

00:21:54.000 I ask that intentionally because what are we really dealing with here?

00:21:58.000 These are not good people.

00:22:00.000 This is now, now we're now no longer getting in from the efficacy.

00:22:03.000 Oh, what they did didn't work.

00:22:06.000 There is a darkness to their behavior that I believe my religion explains.

00:22:11.000 But the fact that they wouldn't even say, oh, yeah, sorry, Dr. Corey, for trying to steal your license and destroy your career.

00:22:16.000 By the way, just so you understand, Dr. Corey was one of the leaders in, I believe, ultrasound type technology, right?

00:22:22.000 And you were celebrated and heralded, right?

00:22:25.000 You were well published.

00:22:26.000 And you decided to say, hey, there's an intervention that's working for the biggest pandemic in my lifetime.

00:22:30.000 And they try to take you out.

00:22:32.000 And you don't even get as much as, hey, sorry about that.

00:22:36.000 No, in fact, Charlie, they're still coming after us.

00:22:38.000 I mean, just in the last six months alone, I've had to do expert witness testimony defending my colleagues out there who the boards are coming after them for prescribing ivermectin.

00:22:49.000 And they're at risk of losing their licenses.

00:22:51.000 I mean, they're not stopping.

00:22:52.000 They want to make sure that anyone who believes or used ivermectin is punished.

00:22:58.000 And this war is still going on and it's going to go on for a long time.

00:23:03.000 And besides that evil that you talked about, it's cowardice.

00:23:06.000 I mean, I think there are some reasonably good people just do not have the courage to speak up and speak out about what they're witnessing and what other people are doing and they're complicit.

00:23:14.000 I agree.

00:23:15.000 However, if you know the good and you're too cowardly to act on it, then you're not good.

00:23:21.000 Dr. Corey, thank you so much.

00:23:22.000 Check out the Warren Ivermectin.

00:23:24.000 God bless.

00:23:24.000 Thank you.

00:23:25.000 Thanks, Charlie.

00:23:28.000 Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here.

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00:24:31.000 Recently, I spoke at a wonderful church, Influence Church, and it is Phil Hottenspiller's Church.

00:24:36.000 And he is the author of It's Midnight in America: Confront Fear and Embrace Courage as the Final Hour Approaches.

00:24:43.000 Phil, welcome to the program.

00:24:44.000 Tell us all about your book.

00:24:46.000 Hey, thank you so much, Charlie.

00:24:48.000 Well, you know, during the pandemic, a lot of people were fearful.

00:24:53.000 A lot of people wondered what was going on.

00:24:54.000 And we decided to not close down as a few other churches did.

00:24:59.000 And I just began to think about America and the condition it was in, given the just the running roughshod over Constitution, denying that Jesus was king.

00:25:12.000 We saw that in the churches.

00:25:13.000 We saw it in the community.

00:25:15.000 And this thought just came to me.

00:25:16.000 This is a midnight hour for America.

00:25:19.000 And so I just began to kind of write some notes down.

00:25:22.000 And about the same time, my literary agent called me and said, Hey, do you have anything on the shelf that you'd like to start working on?

00:25:29.000 And I said, I actually do.

00:25:31.000 And so that began the journey of writing this book.

00:25:35.000 And I'm excited about what's in it.

00:25:38.000 It's very interesting, very different approach than a lot of people have taken to midnight in America.

00:25:43.000 Well, tell us about it, Phil, because it's contrasted with the kind of typical, it's morning in America.

00:25:48.000 It's our best days are ahead.

00:25:50.000 You're saying, no, no, it is our best days might be ahead, but it's dark right now.

00:25:54.000 So build it out.

00:25:55.000 Yeah, well, the first chapter is really, this is a dress rehearsal.

00:25:59.000 Everything that was happening in 2020, 21, I really believe was planned and structured to see how to control society.

00:26:09.000 And quite honestly, it worked pretty well for them.

00:26:12.000 And so I just kind of unfold that, and then I go into something called the prophetic clock.

00:26:17.000 And a lot of people don't realize that prophecy is very unique to the word of God versus like the writings of the Hindus or of Muhammad.

00:26:27.000 So there's actually predictive things that we can look at that are written 2,500 years ago that are being fulfilled today.

00:26:34.000 So the first thing that we talk about in the prophetic clock is Israel's dispersia from the book of Jeremiah and how they were dispersed all over the world.

00:26:43.000 But then we see some things coming together.

00:26:45.000 Jesus said in Matthew 24 that nation would rise against nation, kingdom against kingdom.

00:26:52.000 And the first time that that happened was in World War I, 1914, 1917.

00:26:57.000 You can mark in Matthew 24 those dates.

00:27:00.000 Then we see the clock really began to tick in 1948 with Israel becoming a nation.

00:27:06.000 Very quickly, they established the law of return.

00:27:10.000 Jews worldwide can come back. 0.92

00:27:12.000 We see the great Jewish expulsion from the USSR in the 70s, migration into Israel.

00:27:20.000 Again, fulfillment of scripture, Zachariah's fulfillment out of Ethiopia, will I call my people?

00:27:25.000 We saw three airlifts out of Ethiopia.

00:27:28.000 And so that's just kind of the beginning of the clock.

00:27:30.000 You kind of get a vibe and a feel for what really is happening from the word of God.

00:27:34.000 And I give you seven more prophetic fulfillments like that and three that are yet to be fulfilled.

00:27:40.000 And they're on God's timetable.

00:27:43.000 So, Phil, I know that you have a heart for this country and you run American faith and it does a great job.

00:27:50.000 There's a movement afoot, as we talked about at your wonderful church, to try and get Christians disengaged. 0.98

00:27:57.000 It started with Tim Alberta's book, which was all about Christian nationalism, then Rob Reiner's film about Christian nationalism.

00:28:04.000 And now there's this new individual by the name of Jim Wallace.

00:28:09.000 I was up early this morning.

00:28:11.000 I record MSNBC and I fast forward through it until I see the different segments.

00:28:16.000 He's getting the regime treatment.

00:28:18.000 He has a new book called The False White Gospel.

00:28:23.000 I want you to respond to this piece of tape here, PlayCut 38.

00:28:26.000 Trump is projecting a trajectory in politics of fear, hate, and violence.

00:28:34.000 Now that's being projected onto religion.

00:28:37.000 The same thing.

00:28:38.000 So how do we overcome that fear?

00:28:40.000 Right.

00:28:41.000 How do we talk about the politics of neighbor love?

00:28:44.000 Yep, that's really what we're talking about.

00:28:46.000 That is the key.

00:28:47.000 The new book is titled The False White Gospel, Rejecting Christian Nationalism, Reclaiming True Faith, and Refounding Democracy author Jim Wallace.

00:28:55.000 Rejecting Christian nationalism.

00:28:59.000 Phil, your response.

00:29:00.000 You know, cultural Marxism, it's really what it is.

00:29:03.000 It comes back to pit one group against another group in order to advance your cause, which your cause is a progressive, extreme left-wing agenda.

00:29:14.000 And the best thing to do is to pick on the white guy in the neighborhood, the white church specifically, because clearly they must be the problem.

00:29:22.000 And you think about how hard we've really worked and how far we've come to try to create equality in American government, in American society, only to be pushed back by statements like this.

00:29:36.000 So I think, again, to me, it goes back to let's create a revolution and let's make sure that under no circumstances Donald Trump gets elected as president again.

00:29:47.000 So in your book, you talk about the way forward.

00:29:52.000 What is your case then of what Christians need to do now till November?

00:29:57.000 Well, I think, first of all, we need to do more than pray.

00:30:00.000 Pray is really essential, critical for every believer to pray.

00:30:05.000 But I think engage as well.

00:30:07.000 You need to find ways to be engaged in your community.

00:30:10.000 You need to find ways to lift up your voice and be heard wherever you are.

00:30:16.000 Use whatever's at your means.

00:30:17.000 You may not have a big social following.

00:30:20.000 You may not have a lot of friends in high places, but you do have friends and you do have a voice.

00:30:27.000 And if every person that is silent, I know in California alone, if we could just get the Christians to vote in California, this state would turn into a red state. 0.90

00:30:38.000 And I know that's a pretty big statement, but when you see the kind of numbers of people that do not get out to vote, do not lift their voice, is it any wonder what's happening to our state and our nation?

00:30:49.000 And why do you think so few Christians vote?

00:30:52.000 What is your explanation there, Phil?

00:30:54.000 What is your hypothesis?

00:30:56.000 Well, I think the complacency comes from two sides.

00:30:59.000 I think it comes, number one, I think it's all going to work out fine anyway.

00:31:03.000 Somebody smarter than me will figure it out.

00:31:06.000 And after all, my life is pretty comfortable, pretty easy right now.

00:31:09.000 So what's the big deal?

00:31:11.000 And then I think there's another group, and I think it's a smaller group.

00:31:14.000 And that's the group that says, look, God's going to work it all out.

00:31:17.000 And I just want to go to heaven anyway.

00:31:19.000 I want to be raptured out.

00:31:20.000 I want to just be airlifted from earth to heaven.

00:31:25.000 And I think that's another tragic, tragic position.

00:31:28.000 But I think it does exist within Christian circles.

00:31:32.000 Yeah, it is.

00:31:33.000 It's a dilemma and a challenge for us to overcome.

00:31:37.000 Tell our audience all about the great work you're doing at AmericanFaith.com, Phil.

00:31:42.000 Well, you know, we started it because I was mad at the governor.

00:31:44.000 I didn't know what else to do.

00:31:45.000 I said, let's just start pushing my sermons on democracy, on being a republic, and constitutional rights.

00:31:54.000 And next thing I know, I've actually got a following and we began to hire journalists.

00:31:59.000 And now we produce about 35 to 40 original stories a day.

00:32:04.000 And our audience is about 22 million.

00:32:06.000 And it's growing quickly.

00:32:08.000 We have Laura Trump as our keynote speaker this year.

00:32:11.000 We had a wonderful keynote speaker last year, Charlie Kirk, who knocked it out of the park, I might add.

00:32:17.000 So it's exciting to be a part of this media world.

00:32:21.000 And I know very little about it.

00:32:22.000 I just know that I take the next prescribed step and God seems to bless it as we go.

00:32:28.000 Phil, in closing here, what is your challenge to pastors that are watching or listening that say, I know there's something wrong with the country, but I don't want to be too political.

00:32:37.000 You know, I think it's the most essential character trait, according to Churchill, is courage.

00:32:44.000 Everything else is built on it.

00:32:46.000 And the Bible is the most political book on planet Earth.

00:32:49.000 Every single key individual in the Bible was confronting a regime that was anti-God.

00:32:55.000 And whether you're talking about Nimrod or you're talking about the Pharaoh or you're talking about Nebuchadnezzar or the Caesars of Rome, and they always realized that this was the issue.

00:33:08.000 If you can't get government right, you can't freely spread the gospel of Jesus Christ.

00:33:13.000 And I think the real problem is not in the churches.

00:33:16.000 It's really in the leadership.

00:33:17.000 We need leaders to stand up and be strong, be heard, and quit cowering behind all kinds of different shadows and mirrors and claiming to be spiritual and saying, well, I just preach the gospel.

00:33:32.000 Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here.

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00:34:34.000 So, Phil, some of these pastors say that I don't want to do politics, that I only preach the gospel.

00:34:42.000 I know that you have some thoughts about this both in your book and in your ministry.

00:34:47.000 Broadly, what do you think of those pastors?

00:34:51.000 Well, I think they're misguided at best and they're obstructionists at worst because this is all about keeping the gospel free in America, defending the Constitution.

00:35:05.000 If you don't have that, you're going to all be talking about techniques and theology sitting behind prison bars because that's the direction this is going.

00:35:15.000 One of the chapters in my book is called America Needs More Blacksmiths. 0.99

00:35:20.000 And that might seem like an unusual title, but the strategy of the Philistines when they went in and conquered Israel was to remove all the blacksmiths.

00:35:28.000 Now Israel could not make weapons of war.

00:35:30.000 No swords, no spears, nothing.

00:35:33.000 But it was even worse than that because they had to go to the Philistines to have their agricultural tools sharpened.

00:35:39.000 So they were totally dependent on a foreign government.

00:35:42.000 That's exactly what's happening here in America.

00:35:45.000 And if you take away our weapons, meaning free speech, our Constitution, you take those away, and then you force us to get everything from you, become government-dependent, make more government employees.

00:35:58.000 You were right back in the same old situation that Israel was of old. 0.98

00:36:03.000 That leads us to the next thing, Charlie, and that is a one-world government.

00:36:08.000 So what's on the scale here is really, where's this thing going?

00:36:12.000 Well, if you go back in your Bible to the time of Nimrod, Genesis 10 and 11, you see the first human kingdom was Babylon.

00:36:21.000 And Babylon, not only was it a geographical location, but it was also a spiritual entity that runs itself through the entire word of God and the history of mankind.

00:36:31.000 It's only culminated in Revelation chapter 17 and 18, when Babylon, the great horror, is judged by God.

00:36:40.000 And so if you don't see the signs of a one-world government, all you have to do is look no further than World Economic Forum.

00:36:46.000 You can see the breaking down of borders that we see in America.

00:36:50.000 These are indications that there's an agenda afoot of a cabal that is seeking to build a one-world government.

00:36:58.000 And of course, it is predicted in the word of God.

00:37:01.000 It doesn't mean that we can't slow its pace.

00:37:04.000 It doesn't mean that we can't rise above it and be strong.

00:37:08.000 And that's really what I'm calling people to do in this book.

00:37:11.000 One of the things I do, Charlie, just kind of a final note here, and then we can dialogue a little bit more, is that the most often question I get asked is, where is America in biblical prophecy?

00:37:23.000 And if you Google search it, you'll find that there's really not good answers, or there's an obscure reference to Ezekiel chapter 38 and verse 13.

00:37:32.000 What I do is I take a fresh approach, an original approach, and I show you where America is in biblical prophecy.

00:37:39.000 And I also show you where it will be judged in scripture.

00:37:43.000 And it's very unique.

00:37:44.000 I don't want to give away the farm, but I want to just kind of put it out there for people to get the book, read it.

00:37:50.000 I think you're going to really be fascinated by that chapter.

00:37:54.000 I can't wait to read it.

00:37:55.000 And I just, there is a direct agenda right now to try to have pastors not declare truth, not to understand that our God is a God of order and distinction, and he gives us a civil law.

00:38:05.000 He gives us a moral law on how to organize our government.

00:38:08.000 In fact, the American government is constituted on these biblical commandments and promises.

00:38:14.000 Final thoughts, Phil?

00:38:15.000 All 17 points in the Constitution were preached by the preachers of New England prior to the building of the Constitution.

00:38:25.000 It was the Black Robe Society that they were referred to because the clerics were black robes that made a difference, that made our nation free.

00:38:33.000 We need to go back to our roots.

00:38:35.000 Back to our roots is right.

00:38:36.000 Phil, God bless you.

00:38:37.000 Thank you so much.

00:38:38.000 Thank you.

00:38:39.000 I want to just show this up on screen really quick.

00:38:41.000 I think we're the first one to pinpoint this.

00:38:43.000 Look at the op.

00:38:44.000 The op is trying to make it seem as if Christians are radical, that they don't want a free society, that they're cultish, and they're trying to infiltrate the church.

00:38:53.000 They know that if Christians are able to get back to 72, Project 72, we've said this. 0.99

00:39:00.000 We're the only program that has said this to my knowledge.

00:39:02.000 I believe the number was 72, which is 72% of evangelical support.

00:39:06.000 That went down.

00:39:07.000 Donald Trump did four points worse with Christian voters in 2020 than he did in 2016.

00:39:12.000 Look at this.

00:39:13.000 The false white gospel with Jim Wallace, The Kingdom, the Power, the Glory by Tim Alberta.

00:39:18.000 What would Jesus Do, WWJD, with God and country?

00:39:22.000 These are all left-wing ops that have come out in the last couple months of books, organizations, alleged synthetic movements, of movies that are trying to get Christians no longer engaged.

00:39:33.000 From Rob Reiner, from Tim Alberta to Jim Wallace.

00:39:36.000 We look at this stuff very carefully and closely, and I know an op when I see it.

00:39:40.000 There is a brain trust on the left that said, we got to put together this narrative.

00:39:45.000 You're trying to tell me Jim Wallace, the original title of Jim Wallace's book was The False Gospel.

00:39:49.000 Somebody added, rejecting Christian nationalism, reclaiming true faith, and refounding democracy.

00:39:56.000 That's an op.

00:39:57.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:39:58.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:40:01.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - April 03, 2024

How Many People Did the War on Ivermectin Kill?

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