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00:03:15.000I just want to be really clear that if this is true, which I have no reason to believe it's not, other than, you know, Jussie Smollett, we've been through this before.
00:03:25.000I understand people's hesitancy to believe it.
00:03:27.000But if it's true, this is not the way it's not okay.
00:03:30.000People should be able to deliver remarks.
00:03:31.000Elected leaders should be able to deliver remarks, you know, in public without.
00:03:37.000Fearing for their lives without fearing for their safety.
00:03:40.000So, I just think we need to say that now.
00:03:43.000If it comes out that it is fake, that it is staged, then I will be the first to jump on that bandwagon and condemn it.
00:03:51.000It would be really funny if it was staged, it was like Jussie Smollett was very funny, but it's also very evil because, as Charlie once said, like when you do kind of a fake hate crime, as it were, that's like the actual real hate crime when you're doing something just to stoke.
00:04:10.000If you do something like this to make conservatives look bad, to make white men look bad as a provocation, that's an incredibly evil thing.
00:04:18.000And it frankly should be punished far more severely than it is.
00:04:53.000You know, I'm gonna go figure if I am, but I feel okay.
00:04:59.000I feel that it is important for people, whether they are in elected office or not, to allow these people to intimidate us, to make us not fight for our constituents and for the country we love.
00:05:13.000And as I said, you know, I've survived war and I'm definitely going to survive intimidation and whatever these people think they can throw at me because I'm built that way.
00:05:24.000And I just would say, again, I condemn it in the strongest possible terms if this is proven to be authentic, which again, I have no reason to believe it's not, other than we've been through this with Justice Millett.
00:05:37.000But my goodness, and I have my issues with Ilhan Omar.
00:05:41.000She is the least sympathetic political figure, probably.
00:05:45.000At least in the top five in the United States.
00:05:49.000And I couldn't help but remember what she said about Charlie.
00:06:00.000What I find jarring is that there are so many people willing to excuse the most reprehensible things that he said, that they agree with that, that they're willing to have monuments for him, that they want to create a day to honor him, and that they want to produce resolutions in the House of Congress honoring his life and legacy.
00:06:24.000It is one thing to care about his life because obviously so many people.
00:06:29.000Loved him, including his children and wife.
00:06:32.000But I am not going to sit here and be judged for not wanting to honor any legacy this man has left behind.
00:06:41.000That should be in the dustpan of history.
00:06:44.000And we should hopefully move on and forget the hate that he spewed every single day.
00:07:42.000So, in other news, I want to pivot here really quick.
00:07:45.000So, the Daily Beast has got a piece up here.
00:07:47.000Stephen Miller is being sidelined after he was reportedly shut out of a closed door White House meeting following the killing of Alex Pretty.
00:08:01.000So, the speculation is basically that Christy Nome, Stephen Miller, Greg Pavino, that they are all being sidelined because of a messaging blunder following the shooting death of Alex Pretty.
00:08:15.000Where they said that he was going to do maximal damage, that he was going to massacre people.
00:08:21.000We don't have reason to believe that that's necessarily true, nor do I think the video substantiates that interpretation of events.
00:08:27.000We don't know that it's untrue, but I do believe that the messaging was unhelpful in the immediate aftermath.
00:08:35.000A more cautious approach, a more, hey, we're going to investigate the shooting and the details, would have probably been more appropriate in that moment.
00:08:46.000Their impulse, it shows how we've improved on a lot of our messaging because there was so often this bizarre automatic conservative impulse to disavow and freak out and have a panic attack.
00:08:58.000And now, much more often, the first impulse is defend and concede nothing.
00:09:02.000That's often a lesson people would take from President Trump's success because he's very much a kind of never really apologize guy, never give an inch.
00:09:10.000But on this one, it does seem to have not been the right approach.
00:09:34.000So they did wrong messaging on a controversial story over the weekend.
00:09:38.000We have people in Washington who screwed up and invaded Iraq, who overthrew a government in Libya, who've done regime change wars that have killed tens of thousands of people and have been a complete mistake.
00:09:48.000And have faced zero consequences for it.
00:09:50.000The way you think that the people who are at the FBI have never screwed anything up and then just continued to rise up, people at the CIA have never screwed up and just had their careers completely untouched.
00:10:00.000Washington is full of people who face zero accountability for the biggest screw ups ever.
00:10:04.000All right, so I want to go through we're going to go through a football analogy.
00:10:08.000This is an ode to Charlie, but it's also a good reminder for so many of you out there because I'm looking around on social media and there's blackpilling happening all over the place with Minneapolis.
00:11:39.000But football experts will tell you they're often like the most important players on a team after the quarterback are the lines, just the offensive linemen.
00:11:47.000And anyone who's a fan of the Cincinnati Bengals or some other perennial teams will tell you your quarterback falls apart if your line is bad.
00:13:46.000Dude, you're going to lose this to Georgia the way you're really laying it out here.
00:13:49.000Then Brady engineered an epic comeback.
00:13:52.000He led the Patriots on multiple scoring drives in the fourth quarter, including a game tying drive capped by a miraculous Julian Edelman catch.
00:14:01.000The game went into overtime, and the Patriots.
00:14:08.000Brady, who had the most terrible first half you can imagine, ended up with 466 passing yards and two touchdowns, and he was named Super Bowl MVP.
00:14:21.000You know, one of the other great parts about this was this happened right after the 2016 election, and the left, for whatever reason, decided to go in on this as some sort of proxy for politics because the Patriots' owner was pro Trump, Bill Belichick was pro Trump.
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00:17:50.000That's eight six six three three eight four three two five All right, without further ado, we have SBA Administrator Kelly Leffler back on the show.
00:18:17.000Look, first of all, it's such an honor to join y'all in person.
00:18:20.000I'm excited to say that we're breaking this news here on your show today.
00:18:23.000The 8A government program for federal contracting is a government wide, socially and economically Disadvantaged federal program that expanded massively under the Biden administration to support their favored minority groups.
00:18:40.000Essentially, they expanded it by 2,000 participants during four years.
00:18:46.000What we saw going on in that program was discriminating against white small business owners.
00:18:52.000So, what we did was we called for an audit last year.
00:18:58.000We started conducting that audit and we saw lots of waste, fraud, and abuse.
00:19:01.000And so by the end of the year, we had demanded three months of financial documents.
00:19:07.000What came back out of the 4,300 firms that the Biden administration had expanded to was 1,091 firms did not submit records.
00:19:17.000Those firms were qualified and received $5 billion under the Biden administration in contracts.
00:19:42.000So just to reiterate, the SBA has announced the suspension of 1,091 firms from the 8A business development program that Joe Biden, the Biden administration, had ramped up, which was basically discrimination against white firms.
00:19:59.000Any, you know, this was special groups were getting special consideration and there was a lot of fraud in this.
00:20:08.000In December, to send documentation to prove the most basic audit possible, and they failed.
00:20:16.000So, you ordered all 4,300 firms to submit basic documentation to prove their legitimacy as part of Trump's SBA's longstanding effort to root out small business contracting abuse by pass through and shell companies.
00:20:31.000Can you hone in on that particular piece, the pass through and shell company aspect of this?
00:20:39.000So, 50 years ago, this program came into being in law under the Carter administration.
00:20:45.000And since then, there has never been an audit of what is a program.
00:20:49.000That is designed to let economically and socially disadvantaged people compete on a level playing field for federal contracts.
00:20:56.000I grew up in a farm, a farm community, a small town.
00:20:59.000There are folks that are outside the DC Beltway, the Beltway bandits, who are using a DEI situation to hide behind them, millionaires, who are then saying that they're small businesses and they're taking multi million dollar contracts away from deserving small businesses.
00:21:17.000And particularly under the Biden administration, if you were a white business owner, You probably didn't even qualify to come into the program.
00:22:39.000And that's how I think about it, Blake, because I'm on Main Street every week across this.
00:22:43.000I've already been in 10 states this year.
00:22:45.000When I meet face to face with a small business owner, I see that the risk they're taking to build their business, the sacrifice they're making, their families to build.
00:22:54.000Create jobs to invest in Main Streets and to know that their hard earned tax dollars are being shuffled off to DEI programs is absolutely infuriating.
00:23:04.000The Trump administration from day one has been cracking down on this program, reorganizing around audits that we're doing and what we're finding, and making sure that Main Street America has access to programs not supporting DEI but supporting deserving small business owners.
00:23:22.000So, a natural follow up question to that you found.
00:23:25.000A thousand firms that are not following the right paperwork, they seem to have been improperly certified.
00:23:30.000Do we have evidence of further criminal behavior?
00:23:32.000And is there progress towards that going to DOJ or whoever would be needed to investigate, potentially prosecute that?
00:24:05.000But then the 4,300 firms that we requested financial statements from, we're going through those to make sure that they're not going to shell and pass through companies where you have a DEI front standing in front of a multi million dollar business that's taking away a contract from a deserving small business.
00:24:23.000So, yeah, so there could be further criminal investigations.
00:24:27.000Right now, these individuals, these firms are not.
00:24:31.000Eligible to participate in small business contracting.
00:24:33.000And it's important because the SBA sets the standard across the federal government.
00:24:38.000The Department of War, Department of Treasury, DSA has joined us in our audit because this goes on across the federal government.
00:24:44.000And we know that we need to set a standard that bars any discrimination, particularly of white owned firms, because it was going on under the Biden administration.
00:24:54.000So Administrator Leffler, in the previous segment, we used a sports analogy.
00:25:15.000And I just think this is great because sometimes we get distracted by, oh, we're upset about something that happened in Minneapolis, or sometimes we don't think there's enough prosecutions.
00:25:25.000But this is a prime example of somebody.
00:25:28.000You at the SBA that's putting up billion dollar wins on behalf of the American people and getting rid of some of this entrenched stuff that's just been there for years or that was exacerbated under the Biden administration and that we're setting right in front of your eyes.
00:25:44.000This is amazing, amazing progress that will not get front page headlines necessarily, but it's a huge win for the American people.
00:25:51.000I want you're also going to make some other news here, I believe.
00:25:57.000This morning, President Trump was talking about Trump accounts.
00:26:01.000Uh, Lee Zeldin at the EPA, and he basically says, You know, everything that's been happening in California is terrible.
00:26:08.000These homes were burned down in the Palisades, some of the richest homes, most beautiful homes in the country.
00:26:15.000And so, President Trump says EPA Chief Lee Zeldin will be in charge of federal permitting to override local California wildfires, the rebuild there.
00:26:26.000And you guys have a role to play here at the SBA.
00:26:33.000Gavin Newsom created a disaster in California, a twin disaster, not just the disaster of the fires where the president came to the rescue and getting water to the fires when his first week in office, but the lies that this administration under Gavin Newsom and Karen Bass have perpetuated about rebuilding in California.
00:26:56.000They may have issued thousands of permits, but one house might need a dozen, two dozen permits.
00:27:01.000So there's been about a dozen houses built.
00:27:04.000What the SBA has done is put out $3.2 billion, over 50% of the entire disaster recovery effort in the entire country, and very little, 25% has been pulled down.
00:27:15.000So we're going to be partnering with Administrator Zeldin.
00:27:18.000Lee and I will be back out in California, making sure residents know that we are fast tracking now the ability to rebuild finally.
00:27:26.000Because look, 75% of those folks are in temporary housing, 50% have severe economic harm caused to them as a result of this.
00:27:34.000And the California state and local officials have done nothing but obstruct.
00:27:40.000And President Trump is creating that on ramp to get those houses back up, get families back in their homes, small businesses stood back up because local officials aren't fighting for their own people.
00:27:50.000Well, and by the way, California officials were trying to zone some of that burn area for, you know, I think it was like low income housing.
00:28:00.000And if you know anything about the Palisades, this is one of the best, most beautiful historically neighborhoods in all of Southern California.
00:28:09.000And so you're just going to go plop some low income housing in the middle of that?
00:31:25.000No, you know nothing's going to happen because they didn't even get canceled for running the Lincoln Project, which was basically like a giant.
00:32:34.000Stephen Miller, after President Trump is out of office, they do.
00:32:38.000This is one of the reasons why it's so critically important that we win the midterms because they're going to bog down everything with these investigations.
00:32:45.000And by the way, there was an update yesterday out of Virginia that apparently the old maps are going to hold for 2026.
00:32:55.000I think it goes up to the Supreme Court now, but they are basically the process through which they went was not timed right, was not according to what I've seen.
00:33:04.000It really is legally indefensible to rule any other way because there's like.
00:33:08.000For what they were doing, you need three months of notice, and they had four days of notice.
00:33:25.000They'd have a lot of time to get some reading done.
00:33:27.000Charlie was obviously dragged before the J6 committee.
00:33:31.000The amount of legal bills alone is insane.
00:33:35.000Governor Gavin Newsom got in on the act.
00:33:37.000Stephen Miller is directly responsible, he said in a tweet, for the Deaths, violence, and chaos from Trump administration's lawless, violent rampage across America.
00:33:45.000He must be fired and held accountable with this code red.
00:33:49.000We've got the image here code red in the United States of America with Stephen Miller's face in this blood red.
00:33:55.000You know, it's easy to hit the big names, but the scariest one for me that we've seen, I think, three or four cases of this by now is the rank and file people who clearly fantasize or maybe not, maybe actually do actual.
00:34:13.000They want to do harm to other people, possibly in secret.
00:34:16.000So we've had this staffer at Virginia Commonwealth University.
00:34:22.000Sabotage tactic, or at least scare tactic.
00:34:26.000All the medical providers, grab some syringes with needles on the end, have them full of saline or succinylcholine, you know, whatever, whatever.
00:34:51.000The single ladies where these ice guys are going have a chance to do something you know, not without risk, but could help the cause for sure.
00:35:03.000Get on Tinder, get on Hinge, find these guys, they're around.
00:35:08.000They're an ice agent, bring some X lax and put it in their drinks.
00:36:03.000But it's very ominous because, you know, there are dumb people who will do this for attention, but there are people who are out there who will be smart enough to not make a TikTok video about it, to not post it on Instagram, to not brag about these things publicly, but may still.
00:36:20.000And you really have to come down hard on this because this is a lot.
00:36:24.000It's sort of like the same reason you should punish political assassination so harshly.
00:36:29.000This is not merely an attack on an individual, it is an attack on the ability of society to function.
00:36:36.000If you, because you hold a political view or because you hold a job with the government, you basically can't trust the medical system because medical employees may attempt to murder you.