The Charlie Kirk Show - January 28, 2026


How the Trump Admin Is Like the New England Patriots


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On this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show, Charlie talks about the recent attack on Rep. Ilhan Omar and the possibility that it is fake and staged. He also talks about why college is a scam and why you should not send your kids to college.

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00:00:03.000 My name is Charlie Kirk.
00:00:05.000 I run the largest pro American student organization in the country fighting for the future of our republic.
00:00:11.000 My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth.
00:00:14.000 If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're going to end up miserable.
00:00:19.000 But if the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful.
00:00:24.000 College is a scam, everybody.
00:00:26.000 You got to stop sending your kids to college.
00:00:28.000 You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible.
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00:01:09.000 All right.
00:01:10.000 Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:01:11.000 It is January 28th, 2026.
00:01:14.000 Blake, how are you doing?
00:01:15.000 How are we doing this morning?
00:01:19.000 For those who don't personally know Blake, that's usually my answer to that question.
00:01:22.000 Basically, Blake will absolutely rip your heart out in the morning when you come in.
00:01:27.000 They're like, hey, Blake, good morning.
00:01:28.000 How are you doing?
00:01:29.000 He's like, how are you doing?
00:01:32.000 You want to feel good.
00:01:34.000 President Trump's talking about the Trump accounts, which is a big thing.
00:01:38.000 Charlie loved those.
00:01:39.000 And we've got some announcements even on the turning point side.
00:01:42.000 Coming soon on those.
00:01:44.000 Those are a great way to make sure young people have skin in the game.
00:01:47.000 You got Michael Dell donating over $6 billion.
00:01:50.000 Every child in America gets $250 in their Trump account.
00:01:53.000 So if you have family members, make sure they're taking advantage of that.
00:01:56.000 Invest in it, pour into it.
00:01:59.000 By the time a young person is 18, 21, they could have hundreds of thousands of dollars in that account.
00:02:04.000 Yeah.
00:02:04.000 Huge, huge.
00:02:05.000 And having skin in the game, a stake in the economy, is a huge way to make sure the next generation doesn't become radicalized.
00:02:13.000 And so I want to give a shout out to the president there and the team.
00:02:16.000 It's a great piece.
00:02:17.000 That was inside the one big beautiful bill.
00:02:19.000 All right, I want to get to a couple things here right off the top.
00:02:22.000 We've got a jam packed show, so you're going to want to stay tuned for the entire thing.
00:02:26.000 Lots of amazing guests.
00:02:27.000 Kelly Leffler's coming in with 8A.
00:02:29.000 But first up, Ilhan Omar was sprayed last night.
00:02:33.000 She was attacked or at least approached, and the internet's losing its mind.
00:02:38.000 And I just want to say a couple things.
00:02:40.000 I know we have the video here.
00:02:42.000 Go ahead and play that in the background if you want.
00:02:43.000 So she's giving a speech in Minneapolis. 1.00
00:02:46.000 She makes a comment that Christy Gnome should have. 1.00
00:02:49.000 Be should resign or face impeachment.
00:02:51.000 This gentleman comes up with a syringe, sprays her with an unknown substance, is tackled by security and subdued.
00:02:58.000 Ilhan Omar would go on to continue and complete her remarks.
00:03:03.000 Now, everybody on the internet thinks this is fake and staged.
00:03:07.000 Here's what I would say.
00:03:08.000 And there's, you know, they're digging into his children.
00:03:11.000 He has a left wing child.
00:03:12.000 His neighbors say he's conservative.
00:03:14.000 Everybody says it's fake and staged.
00:03:15.000 I just want to be really clear that if this is true, which I have no reason to believe it's not, other than, you know, Jussie Smollett, we've been through this before.
00:03:25.000 I understand people's hesitancy to believe it.
00:03:27.000 But if it's true, this is not the way it's not okay.
00:03:30.000 People should be able to deliver remarks.
00:03:31.000 Elected leaders should be able to deliver remarks, you know, in public without.
00:03:37.000 Fearing for their lives without fearing for their safety.
00:03:40.000 So, I just think we need to say that now.
00:03:43.000 If it comes out that it is fake, that it is staged, then I will be the first to jump on that bandwagon and condemn it.
00:03:51.000 It would be really funny if it was staged, it was like Jussie Smollett was very funny, but it's also very evil because, as Charlie once said, like when you do kind of a fake hate crime, as it were, that's like the actual real hate crime when you're doing something just to stoke.
00:04:08.000 Animosity and hatred against a group.
00:04:10.000 If you do something like this to make conservatives look bad, to make white men look bad as a provocation, that's an incredibly evil thing.
00:04:18.000 And it frankly should be punished far more severely than it is.
00:04:21.000 I totally agree with that.
00:04:22.000 Justice Millett should have been.
00:04:23.000 The New York Post, for example, is not a liberal publication.
00:04:26.000 They've investigated this and they at least found a neighbor who said, This guy didn't talk a lot, but he did seem to share.
00:04:33.000 He seemed to be a President Trump supporter, shared anti Omar stuff, didn't like her.
00:04:37.000 And they got at other stuff.
00:04:39.000 He apparently had.
00:04:40.000 Medical issues, so that could have been affecting his mental state.
00:04:43.000 Yeah, so I, yeah, and so let's play the clip right after this happened.
00:04:47.000 She's asked if she's okay.
00:04:50.000 369.
00:04:50.000 Representative Omar, are you okay?
00:04:53.000 You know, I'm gonna go figure if I am, but I feel okay.
00:04:59.000 I feel that it is important for people, whether they are in elected office or not, to allow these people to intimidate us, to make us not fight for our constituents and for the country we love.
00:05:13.000 And as I said, you know, I've survived war and I'm definitely going to survive intimidation and whatever these people think they can throw at me because I'm built that way.
00:05:24.000 Thank you.
00:05:24.000 And I just would say, again, I condemn it in the strongest possible terms if this is proven to be authentic, which again, I have no reason to believe it's not, other than we've been through this with Justice Millett.
00:05:37.000 But my goodness, and I have my issues with Ilhan Omar.
00:05:41.000 She is the least sympathetic political figure, probably.
00:05:45.000 At least in the top five in the United States.
00:05:49.000 And I couldn't help but remember what she said about Charlie.
00:05:54.000 So I'm going to play that clip.
00:05:57.000 I just feel like we should.
00:05:58.000 390.
00:06:00.000 What I find jarring is that there are so many people willing to excuse the most reprehensible things that he said, that they agree with that, that they're willing to have monuments for him, that they want to create a day to honor him, and that they want to produce resolutions in the House of Congress honoring his life and legacy.
00:06:24.000 It is one thing to care about his life because obviously so many people.
00:06:29.000 Loved him, including his children and wife.
00:06:32.000 But I am not going to sit here and be judged for not wanting to honor any legacy this man has left behind.
00:06:41.000 That should be in the dustpan of history.
00:06:44.000 And we should hopefully move on and forget the hate that he spewed every single day.
00:06:51.000 It is reprehensible. 0.98
00:06:52.000 She's lived here since 1995.
00:06:54.000 Dustpan of history. 0.98
00:06:56.000 Dustpan.
00:06:56.000 Yeah.
00:06:57.000 And so, like, you know, don't attack.
00:07:00.000 People don't rush them on stage.
00:07:02.000 In general, you make everybody look bad when you do that.
00:07:07.000 But my basic feeling on this is she's okay.
00:07:12.000 I don't know what the substance was.
00:07:13.000 They haven't released it.
00:07:15.000 So, you know, that's a question.
00:07:17.000 Why haven't they released it?
00:07:19.000 They sent a forensic analyst to, or a forensic scientist to analyze the substance, and we don't know.
00:07:24.000 So that's where I'm at.
00:07:25.000 All right.
00:07:26.000 Don't do that.
00:07:27.000 Please don't do that. 0.99
00:07:28.000 But don't fall for any dumb psyops about this stuff. 0.98
00:07:32.000 Like, there are loons in politics, they do things. 0.99
00:07:36.000 You don't, you're not going to overact to a guy who throws something on a politician at an event.
00:07:40.000 Fair enough.
00:07:41.000 Yeah.
00:07:42.000 So, in other news, I want to pivot here really quick.
00:07:45.000 So, the Daily Beast has got a piece up here.
00:07:47.000 Stephen Miller is being sidelined after he was reportedly shut out of a closed door White House meeting following the killing of Alex Pretty.
00:07:55.000 I have checked in on this.
00:07:57.000 This is completely and utterly untrue.
00:08:00.000 Okay.
00:08:01.000 So, the speculation is basically that Christy Nome, Stephen Miller, Greg Pavino, that they are all being sidelined because of a messaging blunder following the shooting death of Alex Pretty.
00:08:15.000 Where they said that he was going to do maximal damage, that he was going to massacre people.
00:08:21.000 We don't have reason to believe that that's necessarily true, nor do I think the video substantiates that interpretation of events.
00:08:27.000 We don't know that it's untrue, but I do believe that the messaging was unhelpful in the immediate aftermath.
00:08:35.000 A more cautious approach, a more, hey, we're going to investigate the shooting and the details, would have probably been more appropriate in that moment.
00:08:43.000 You would agree with that.
00:08:46.000 Their impulse, it shows how we've improved on a lot of our messaging because there was so often this bizarre automatic conservative impulse to disavow and freak out and have a panic attack.
00:08:58.000 And now, much more often, the first impulse is defend and concede nothing.
00:09:02.000 That's often a lesson people would take from President Trump's success because he's very much a kind of never really apologize guy, never give an inch.
00:09:10.000 But on this one, it does seem to have not been the right approach.
00:09:16.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:09:16.000 Okay.
00:09:17.000 That's my take.
00:09:20.000 I'll say it again.
00:09:21.000 We're building up antibodies to some of these mistakes that have been made in the past.
00:09:25.000 Now, all right, when you don't have all the facts, just take a little bit more of a neutral tone.
00:09:30.000 That's the correction.
00:09:31.000 Okay?
00:09:32.000 Let's be honest here.
00:09:34.000 So they did wrong messaging on a controversial story over the weekend.
00:09:38.000 We have people in Washington who screwed up and invaded Iraq, who overthrew a government in Libya, who've done regime change wars that have killed tens of thousands of people and have been a complete mistake.
00:09:48.000 And have faced zero consequences for it.
00:09:50.000 The way you think that the people who are at the FBI have never screwed anything up and then just continued to rise up, people at the CIA have never screwed up and just had their careers completely untouched.
00:10:00.000 Washington is full of people who face zero accountability for the biggest screw ups ever.
00:10:04.000 All right, so I want to go through we're going to go through a football analogy.
00:10:08.000 This is an ode to Charlie, but it's also a good reminder for so many of you out there because I'm looking around on social media and there's blackpilling happening all over the place with Minneapolis.
00:10:22.000 The DOJ, not enough indictments.
00:10:24.000 They're mad about Bovino.
00:10:26.000 They're mad about Christy Noam, Stephen Miller, whatever.
00:10:30.000 And I just want to remind everybody that we are part of a team.
00:10:36.000 It's a larger team, right?
00:10:38.000 Stephen Miller is a critical component of that team.
00:10:42.000 You know, when someone messes up, when somebody falls short, you're part of a team.
00:10:46.000 You don't abandon your team.
00:10:48.000 When somebody gets an errant flag in a football game that drives you back 15 yards, roughing the passer penalty, whatever.
00:10:54.000 Maybe your quarterback throws an interception.
00:10:57.000 Now they may get benched, they may get sidelined for a short period of time, and then they earn their way back.
00:11:05.000 When a player commits a false start in football, you're set back five yards.
00:11:08.000 You don't quit.
00:11:09.000 You don't quit the drive.
00:11:10.000 You don't forfeit.
00:11:11.000 I like the false start analogy in particular because I think, let's really dig into this football analogy.
00:11:17.000 So, most of you are probably familiar with it.
00:11:20.000 You know, there's a lot of positions.
00:11:21.000 Let's imagine that the Trump administration football team is pretty obvious who the quarterback is.
00:11:26.000 And then you have positions on a football team that are more high profile, that are a little more flashy.
00:11:32.000 You have wide receivers.
00:11:34.000 You have running backs.
00:11:35.000 You know, make these big plays.
00:11:36.000 They give a lot of interviews.
00:11:37.000 They get a lot of magazine covers.
00:11:39.000 But football experts will tell you they're often like the most important players on a team after the quarterback are the lines, just the offensive linemen.
00:11:47.000 Totally.
00:11:47.000 And anyone who's a fan of the Cincinnati Bengals or some other perennial teams will tell you your quarterback falls apart if your line is bad.
00:11:55.000 And linemen, they aren't famous.
00:11:58.000 They don't get a lot of attention.
00:12:00.000 They're much more just in the trenches every day.
00:12:02.000 And as you know, sometimes they screw up, they get false starts, they get chop block penalties, stuff like that.
00:12:08.000 But You need them absolutely out there every day grinding it out.
00:12:13.000 And Stephen Miller, especially within the Trump administration, is one of those grind it out guys.
00:12:18.000 He's been around with the campaign from the start, basically.
00:12:21.000 I think, was he on them from 2015 onwards?
00:12:24.000 Oh, yeah.
00:12:25.000 And so he's been there that whole time.
00:12:27.000 He's never been a big TV guy.
00:12:29.000 He's on there occasionally, but that's never been his main flashy attention getting.
00:12:33.000 He's never been this attention getter.
00:12:35.000 He's always just been this guy who's in the administration grinding it out to get the results of what the president ran on.
00:12:42.000 He is a result scout.
00:12:44.000 To your point, though, the Trump administration is one giant team.
00:12:47.000 They're striving for a common goal, just like a football team.
00:12:49.000 They're all doing their job.
00:12:51.000 They're blocking, they're tackling, they're running the ball.
00:12:53.000 We got a quarterback in President Trump's.
00:12:55.000 Sometimes we might not get a first down, sometimes we might have to punt.
00:13:00.000 But this administration has been scoring all year long.
00:13:04.000 It's been scoring touchdowns.
00:13:05.000 And I want to remind you of the most famous of all comebacks because it's important.
00:13:12.000 We've got to rally the truths.
00:13:14.000 The most famous example of a sports athlete coming back from behind is Super Bowl 51 and Tom Brady.
00:13:21.000 The New England Patriots trailed the Atlanta Falcons 28 3 late in the third quarter and then 28 9 entering the fourth quarter.
00:13:29.000 Brady had a rough start overall in the first half and into the third.
00:13:31.000 He threw an interception, returned for a touchdown.
00:13:34.000 The offense stalled repeatedly, and the Patriots looked completely outmatched.
00:13:39.000 Fans and analysts thought the game was over.
00:13:42.000 Deficit being the largest in Super Bowl history at that point.
00:13:45.000 It was the largest Super Bowl.
00:13:46.000 Dude, you're going to lose this to Georgia the way you're really laying it out here.
00:13:49.000 Then Brady engineered an epic comeback.
00:13:52.000 He led the Patriots on multiple scoring drives in the fourth quarter, including a game tying drive capped by a miraculous Julian Edelman catch.
00:14:01.000 The game went into overtime, and the Patriots.
00:14:05.000 Ended up winning Super Bowl 51 34 28.
00:14:08.000 Brady, who had the most terrible first half you can imagine, ended up with 466 passing yards and two touchdowns, and he was named Super Bowl MVP.
00:14:21.000 You know, one of the other great parts about this was this happened right after the 2016 election, and the left, for whatever reason, decided to go in on this as some sort of proxy for politics because the Patriots' owner was pro Trump, Bill Belichick was pro Trump.
00:14:36.000 He actually wrote a letter.
00:14:38.000 Bill Belichick, this is a true story.
00:14:39.000 He wrote a letter endorsing Trump, and then they asked, Oh, this is great.
00:14:43.000 Can we release this publicly?
00:14:44.000 And he goes, Oh, you want it to go public?
00:14:46.000 Here, let me rewrite the letter to be more positive.
00:14:48.000 Speaking of which, they kept him out of the Hall of Fame on the first ballot yesterday.
00:14:52.000 So that was egregious.
00:14:53.000 And now they're wondering if Tom Brady's going to be kept out in the first ballot, which would be obscene. 0.91
00:14:58.000 Obscene, disgusting.
00:14:59.000 Anyway, but yeah, so they made this all the left chose to do this. 0.90
00:15:02.000 And then they were like, Well, Atlanta is the city that was very anti Trump.
00:15:07.000 And so this is the chance, like, To get a psychological win.
00:15:10.000 And then the Patriots went and did this.
00:15:12.000 Well, and here's the thing the Patriots, this remains the biggest comeback ever in Super Bowl history.
00:15:23.000 And you can see Tom Brady there emotional because nobody thought that they could pull this off.
00:15:29.000 And I want everybody out there to remember that you are part of a team.
00:15:33.000 So before you snipe at Stephen Miller or Greg Pavino or Christy Nome or President Trump, listen, some of them might get sidelined.
00:15:39.000 Some of them might get replaced.
00:15:41.000 We might have to go to the free agency and pick up some new players.
00:15:44.000 Tear their political ACL. 1.00
00:15:46.000 Yes, their political ACL.
00:15:47.000 Some might have false starts.
00:15:49.000 Some might get flags thrown on them.
00:15:51.000 But we are in this together and we are putting up wins.
00:15:54.000 And in my lifetime, I have never seen a team pulling in the same direction this capable, this competent, this energetic.
00:16:03.000 Don't forget all the things that we've accomplished.
00:16:05.000 We've got Pete Hegseth as our Secretary of War.
00:16:09.000 We've got Lee Zeldin at the EPA.
00:16:11.000 We've got.
00:16:12.000 Scott Besant at Treasury.
00:16:14.000 We've got a lot of all star players.
00:16:16.000 Marco Rubio at State.
00:16:17.000 JD Vance is the vice president.
00:16:20.000 We are crushing it in so many ways.
00:16:23.000 And yes, there have been false starts.
00:16:25.000 Yes, some of the communications on Pretty were not helpful.
00:16:28.000 Let's be honest.
00:16:30.000 But we are deporting people.
00:16:32.000 We have the lowest level of immigration we've had in decades.
00:16:36.000 And we're getting the criminals out.
00:16:37.000 Crime is at an all time low.
00:16:39.000 There's a lot to be grateful for.
00:16:40.000 The team is scoring.
00:16:43.000 Let's be a part of that team.
00:16:44.000 Let's be positive.
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00:17:50.000 That's eight six six three three eight four three two five All right, without further ado, we have SBA Administrator Kelly Leffler back on the show.
00:18:02.000 And I'm so excited.
00:18:03.000 Welcome back.
00:18:05.000 You have been making waves because something we talked about when you joined us here in studio is this 8A program.
00:18:12.000 You have updates.
00:18:14.000 It's a huge, huge story.
00:18:15.000 Please tell us about it.
00:18:16.000 Yeah, you got it.
00:18:17.000 Look, first of all, it's such an honor to join y'all in person.
00:18:20.000 I'm excited to say that we're breaking this news here on your show today.
00:18:23.000 The 8A government program for federal contracting is a government wide, socially and economically Disadvantaged federal program that expanded massively under the Biden administration to support their favored minority groups.
00:18:40.000 Essentially, they expanded it by 2,000 participants during four years.
00:18:46.000 What we saw going on in that program was discriminating against white small business owners.
00:18:52.000 So, what we did was we called for an audit last year.
00:18:58.000 We started conducting that audit and we saw lots of waste, fraud, and abuse.
00:19:01.000 And so by the end of the year, we had demanded three months of financial documents.
00:19:07.000 What came back out of the 4,300 firms that the Biden administration had expanded to was 1,091 firms did not submit records.
00:19:17.000 Those firms were qualified and received $5 billion under the Biden administration in contracts.
00:19:25.000 I mean, this is Somalia level fraud. 1.00
00:19:27.000 And so we're investigating that further, and we still have our 15 year look back audit going on.
00:19:32.000 Meanwhile, we've made very clear.
00:19:34.000 We are not going to discriminate based on race in this program.
00:19:37.000 And so we ended that though on day one last year.
00:19:41.000 Wow.
00:19:42.000 So just to reiterate, the SBA has announced the suspension of 1,091 firms from the 8A business development program that Joe Biden, the Biden administration, had ramped up, which was basically discrimination against white firms.
00:19:59.000 Any, you know, this was special groups were getting special consideration and there was a lot of fraud in this.
00:20:07.000 And so you asked them.
00:20:08.000 In December, to send documentation to prove the most basic audit possible, and they failed.
00:20:16.000 So, you ordered all 4,300 firms to submit basic documentation to prove their legitimacy as part of Trump's SBA's longstanding effort to root out small business contracting abuse by pass through and shell companies.
00:20:31.000 Can you hone in on that particular piece, the pass through and shell company aspect of this?
00:20:36.000 This is a big, big story.
00:20:38.000 Yeah.
00:20:39.000 So, 50 years ago, this program came into being in law under the Carter administration.
00:20:45.000 And since then, there has never been an audit of what is a program.
00:20:49.000 That is designed to let economically and socially disadvantaged people compete on a level playing field for federal contracts.
00:20:56.000 I grew up in a farm, a farm community, a small town.
00:20:59.000 There are folks that are outside the DC Beltway, the Beltway bandits, who are using a DEI situation to hide behind them, millionaires, who are then saying that they're small businesses and they're taking multi million dollar contracts away from deserving small businesses.
00:21:17.000 And particularly under the Biden administration, if you were a white business owner, You probably didn't even qualify to come into the program.
00:21:24.000 That process is unconstitutional.
00:21:26.000 In fact, the tracking metrics for who came into 8A did not even include a classification for white.
00:21:33.000 That's why when I came in on day one, we restored the 5% statutory requirement from 15 that Biden had arbitrarily expanded it to.
00:21:44.000 That's why the program grew to $40 billion last year under Biden.
00:21:48.000 So we're resetting the table to say, we are not doing this on race.
00:21:52.000 You can't get in because of race, and you're not going to be barred from it.
00:21:56.000 Because of race. 0.99
00:21:57.000 Yeah, this is such a prime example of how much bloat and fraud and just garbage gets stuffed in. 0.86
00:22:07.000 When you have a six, six and a half trillion dollar federal budget and you just found a 40 billion dollar line item, or you just.
00:22:14.000 The five billion, I went and I looked it up.
00:22:16.000 How many people?
00:22:17.000 Five billion dollars.
00:22:18.000 That is the average lifetime tax payments of 10,000 people.
00:22:24.000 So, 10,000 people, you just strike that out.
00:22:27.000 You know, 5 billion almost sounds like a tiny amount of money because of how big everything's gone.
00:22:30.000 Yet, thousands of people were having their entire life's work poured into this sort of nonsense.
00:22:36.000 One year of fraud.
00:22:37.000 Yeah.
00:22:38.000 You're exactly right.
00:22:39.000 And that's how I think about it, Blake, because I'm on Main Street every week across this.
00:22:43.000 I've already been in 10 states this year.
00:22:45.000 When I meet face to face with a small business owner, I see that the risk they're taking to build their business, the sacrifice they're making, their families to build.
00:22:54.000 Create jobs to invest in Main Streets and to know that their hard earned tax dollars are being shuffled off to DEI programs is absolutely infuriating.
00:23:02.000 So that's why we came in, though.
00:23:04.000 The Trump administration from day one has been cracking down on this program, reorganizing around audits that we're doing and what we're finding, and making sure that Main Street America has access to programs not supporting DEI but supporting deserving small business owners.
00:23:22.000 So, a natural follow up question to that you found.
00:23:25.000 A thousand firms that are not following the right paperwork, they seem to have been improperly certified.
00:23:30.000 Do we have evidence of further criminal behavior?
00:23:32.000 And is there progress towards that going to DOJ or whoever would be needed to investigate, potentially prosecute that?
00:23:40.000 Excellent question.
00:23:41.000 So, there's two parts of the audit underway.
00:23:44.000 We are first doing a 15 year look back.
00:23:46.000 Again, the program in its 50 year history has never been audited.
00:23:50.000 We are auditing everything in the program from federal contracting employees to the contracts itself.
00:23:56.000 DOJ is already prosecuting.
00:23:58.000 Hundreds of millions of dollars of fraud and bribery in the program.
00:24:03.000 So we're looking at it at that level.
00:24:05.000 But then the 4,300 firms that we requested financial statements from, we're going through those to make sure that they're not going to shell and pass through companies where you have a DEI front standing in front of a multi million dollar business that's taking away a contract from a deserving small business.
00:24:23.000 So, yeah, so there could be further criminal investigations.
00:24:27.000 Right now, these individuals, these firms are not.
00:24:31.000 Eligible to participate in small business contracting.
00:24:33.000 And it's important because the SBA sets the standard across the federal government.
00:24:38.000 The Department of War, Department of Treasury, DSA has joined us in our audit because this goes on across the federal government.
00:24:44.000 And we know that we need to set a standard that bars any discrimination, particularly of white owned firms, because it was going on under the Biden administration.
00:24:54.000 So Administrator Leffler, in the previous segment, we used a sports analogy.
00:24:59.000 We said, We're all part of a team.
00:25:02.000 And listen, sometimes your team members get called for a foul.
00:25:06.000 Sometimes they, you know, false start, whatever.
00:25:08.000 You get a 15 yard penalty, five yard penalty, but we're all, we're marching down the field in the same direction.
00:25:13.000 We're doing it together, you know.
00:25:15.000 And I just think this is great because sometimes we get distracted by, oh, we're upset about something that happened in Minneapolis, or sometimes we don't think there's enough prosecutions.
00:25:25.000 But this is a prime example of somebody.
00:25:28.000 You at the SBA that's putting up billion dollar wins on behalf of the American people and getting rid of some of this entrenched stuff that's just been there for years or that was exacerbated under the Biden administration and that we're setting right in front of your eyes.
00:25:44.000 This is amazing, amazing progress that will not get front page headlines necessarily, but it's a huge win for the American people.
00:25:51.000 I want you're also going to make some other news here, I believe.
00:25:57.000 This morning, President Trump was talking about Trump accounts.
00:25:59.000 He ends up referring to.
00:26:01.000 Uh, Lee Zeldin at the EPA, and he basically says, You know, everything that's been happening in California is terrible.
00:26:08.000 These homes were burned down in the Palisades, some of the richest homes, most beautiful homes in the country.
00:26:15.000 And so, President Trump says EPA Chief Lee Zeldin will be in charge of federal permitting to override local California wildfires, the rebuild there.
00:26:26.000 And you guys have a role to play here at the SBA.
00:26:30.000 Tell us about it.
00:26:31.000 Yeah, this is critically important.
00:26:32.000 Look.
00:26:33.000 Gavin Newsom created a disaster in California, a twin disaster, not just the disaster of the fires where the president came to the rescue and getting water to the fires when his first week in office, but the lies that this administration under Gavin Newsom and Karen Bass have perpetuated about rebuilding in California.
00:26:54.000 Look, there's no rebuilding going on.
00:26:56.000 They may have issued thousands of permits, but one house might need a dozen, two dozen permits.
00:27:01.000 So there's been about a dozen houses built.
00:27:04.000 What the SBA has done is put out $3.2 billion, over 50% of the entire disaster recovery effort in the entire country, and very little, 25% has been pulled down.
00:27:15.000 So we're going to be partnering with Administrator Zeldin.
00:27:18.000 Lee and I will be back out in California, making sure residents know that we are fast tracking now the ability to rebuild finally.
00:27:26.000 Because look, 75% of those folks are in temporary housing, 50% have severe economic harm caused to them as a result of this.
00:27:34.000 And the California state and local officials have done nothing but obstruct.
00:27:39.000 The ability to rebuild.
00:27:40.000 And President Trump is creating that on ramp to get those houses back up, get families back in their homes, small businesses stood back up because local officials aren't fighting for their own people.
00:27:50.000 Well, and by the way, California officials were trying to zone some of that burn area for, you know, I think it was like low income housing.
00:28:00.000 And if you know anything about the Palisades, this is one of the best, most beautiful historically neighborhoods in all of Southern California.
00:28:09.000 And so you're just going to go plop some low income housing in the middle of that?
00:28:12.000 No, thank you.
00:28:13.000 Is going to override that as well.
00:28:13.000 So Trump.
00:28:15.000 And I can just tell you, this is huge.
00:28:17.000 As somebody who's lived in Southern California and has dealt with the permitting process in Southern California, it's abysmal.
00:28:24.000 It is absolutely frightening.
00:28:26.000 And the fact that these people didn't just get fast tracked right away from the state of California is a travesty.
00:28:31.000 So thank you, Administrator Leffler, for stepping up here and helping them.
00:28:35.000 They don't vote for Trump down there.
00:28:37.000 They're probably still going to vote Democrats, but he's the president of all Americans.
00:28:40.000 And I think it's a wonderful thing what you guys are doing.
00:28:42.000 So God bless you.
00:28:44.000 Thank you for the updates.
00:28:45.000 For making some news right here on the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:28:48.000 God bless you.
00:28:49.000 Thanks, Andrew.
00:28:49.000 Thanks, Blake.
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00:30:05.000 We have to hit this story because we mentioned Stephen Miller before and these unhinged clips. 0.98
00:30:12.000 So, Rick Wilson is a complete lunatic.
00:30:16.000 Lincoln Project, all of this stuff. 0.99
00:30:18.000 Former Republican, whatever.
00:30:21.000 He's calling for the execution of Stephen Miller. 0.96
00:30:24.000 They're trying to get Stephen Miller killed. 0.97
00:30:27.000 That's what they're trying to do.
00:30:28.000 And now, by the way, they're going to justify it emotionally because of Renee Good and because of Pretty in Minneapolis.
00:30:34.000 Even though these people should have never been anywhere near these law enforcement operations, that doesn't matter to them.
00:30:41.000 And that's, by the way, that's why it's hard to get outraged when they die.
00:30:45.000 I think it's a tragedy.
00:30:46.000 I don't want anybody to die, but you should not be obstructing and harassing law enforcement officials.
00:30:51.000 So when bad things happen, listen, what are we to do?
00:30:58.000 365.
00:30:59.000 I almost tweeted this today, and I know I'll get canceled for saying this.
00:31:01.000 I know I'm going to get in trouble.
00:31:03.000 I want Stephen Miller to be the number one in the Nuremberg trials when this is done.
00:31:08.000 When this is done, I want Stephen Miller to be the first one who is tried and convicted and dangles.
00:31:14.000 He wants Stephen Miller to dangle. 0.99
00:31:16.000 He wants him to be hung. 0.99
00:31:17.000 But it doesn't stop there. 0.99
00:31:19.000 That's not the only unhinged lunatic that's going on social media. 0.95
00:31:23.000 Oh, and by the way, they're bragging. 0.92
00:31:24.000 I don't mean to get canceled.
00:31:25.000 No, you know nothing's going to happen because they didn't even get canceled for running the Lincoln Project, which was basically like a giant.
00:31:31.000 Criminal grift.
00:31:32.000 And by the way, there's a bunch of them that had. 0.77
00:31:34.000 Oh, and weird sexual deviance.
00:31:36.000 Oh, yeah. 0.65
00:31:36.000 All this stuff. 0.65
00:31:37.000 Every weirdo in the Never Trump movement joined the Lincoln Project.
00:31:40.000 Journalist Kara Swisher, call her a journalist.
00:31:43.000 I'm not going to call her a journalist.
00:31:45.000 That's how it's labeled on the clip sheet.
00:31:46.000 She's not a journalist. 0.99
00:31:47.000 She's an activist. 0.96
00:31:48.000 She says the same thing.
00:31:50.000 366.
00:31:51.000 And I would last like to call out Stephen Miller, who is in the center of this.
00:31:56.000 We always focus on Trump, as we often focus on the top people.
00:32:00.000 But Stephen Miller, like.
00:32:02.000 A man named Ben Detson.
00:32:03.000 He was the one who created the internment cancer Japanese. 1.00
00:32:06.000 Heinrich Himmler in the Nazi regime.
00:32:10.000 This is what he is.
00:32:11.000 And he, of course, Trump gets most of the blame being at the top.
00:32:17.000 But people like Stephen Miller will go down in history as evil.
00:32:23.000 They had blood on his hands and should be jailed at the very end of this.
00:32:27.000 And you're absolutely right.
00:32:28.000 Do you see what they're doing?
00:32:30.000 So they set it all up very gradually.
00:32:33.000 They want to prosecute.
00:32:34.000 Stephen Miller, after President Trump is out of office, they do.
00:32:38.000 This is one of the reasons why it's so critically important that we win the midterms because they're going to bog down everything with these investigations.
00:32:45.000 And by the way, there was an update yesterday out of Virginia that apparently the old maps are going to hold for 2026.
00:32:54.000 That's good.
00:32:54.000 It's a first court ruling.
00:32:55.000 I think it goes up to the Supreme Court now, but they are basically the process through which they went was not timed right, was not according to what I've seen.
00:33:04.000 It really is legally indefensible to rule any other way because there's like.
00:33:08.000 For what they were doing, you need three months of notice, and they had four days of notice.
00:33:13.000 Correct.
00:33:13.000 And that's just, but who knows?
00:33:15.000 It's a lit state.
00:33:16.000 You can let in the Constitution.
00:33:17.000 But nevertheless, they are going to try and imprison us.
00:33:22.000 They might come after Turning Point again.
00:33:24.000 They spied on us.
00:33:25.000 They'd have a lot of time to get some reading done.
00:33:27.000 Charlie was obviously dragged before the J6 committee.
00:33:31.000 The amount of legal bills alone is insane.
00:33:35.000 Governor Gavin Newsom got in on the act.
00:33:37.000 Stephen Miller is directly responsible, he said in a tweet, for the Deaths, violence, and chaos from Trump administration's lawless, violent rampage across America.
00:33:45.000 He must be fired and held accountable with this code red.
00:33:49.000 We've got the image here code red in the United States of America with Stephen Miller's face in this blood red.
00:33:55.000 You know, it's easy to hit the big names, but the scariest one for me that we've seen, I think, three or four cases of this by now is the rank and file people who clearly fantasize or maybe not, maybe actually do actual.
00:34:13.000 They want to do harm to other people, possibly in secret.
00:34:16.000 So we've had this staffer at Virginia Commonwealth University.
00:34:20.000 367.
00:34:21.000 All right, let's play that.
00:34:22.000 Sabotage tactic, or at least scare tactic.
00:34:26.000 All the medical providers, grab some syringes with needles on the end, have them full of saline or succinylcholine, you know, whatever, whatever.
00:34:37.000 That will probably be a deterrent.
00:34:42.000 Safe, she didn't stop there by the way. 1.00
00:34:45.000 So she encourages women to go on dates with agents and drug their food. 1.00
00:34:51.000 368. 1.00
00:34:51.000 The single ladies where these ice guys are going have a chance to do something you know, not without risk, but could help the cause for sure. 1.00
00:35:03.000 Get on Tinder, get on Hinge, find these guys, they're around. 1.00
00:35:08.000 They're an ice agent, bring some X lax and put it in their drinks.
00:35:13.000 Get them sick, easily deniable.
00:35:18.000 You know, you could get sick too.
00:35:21.000 I'm just saying. 1.00
00:35:23.000 So, this is a clearly unhinged, unwell, mentally ill person who was a nurse. 0.95
00:35:30.000 But this story has a happy ending. 0.90
00:35:32.000 I am exceedingly joyful to say.
00:35:35.000 Throw up 373 VCU, an anti ICE nurse fired after referencing paralytic drug and video instructing sabotage of ICE agents.
00:35:45.000 And the university put out a statement.
00:35:47.000 Prioritize the health and safety of anyone who comes to us for care.
00:35:50.000 We are aware of a series of videos that appear to have been posted by an individual confirmed to be an employee of our health system.
00:35:56.000 The content of the videos is highly inappropriate and does not reflect the integrity and values of our health system.
00:36:01.000 And so she's been fired.
00:36:03.000 But it's very ominous because, you know, there are dumb people who will do this for attention, but there are people who are out there who will be smart enough to not make a TikTok video about it, to not post it on Instagram, to not brag about these things publicly, but may still. 0.87
00:36:19.000 Feel the same way.
00:36:20.000 And you really have to come down hard on this because this is a lot.
00:36:24.000 It's sort of like the same reason you should punish political assassination so harshly.
00:36:29.000 This is not merely an attack on an individual, it is an attack on the ability of society to function.
00:36:36.000 If you, because you hold a political view or because you hold a job with the government, you basically can't trust the medical system because medical employees may attempt to murder you.
00:36:48.000 We have other examples of this.
00:36:50.000 We have multiple.
00:36:51.000 This is, and Libs of TikTok, want to shout out to Hal over there.
00:36:55.000 She's been doing a phenomenal job.
00:36:58.000 Haya, did I say, what did I say?
00:37:00.000 Michael Moncure, I think the one who put Alex in harm's way were ICE.
00:37:04.000 All those agents better pray they never end up in a hospital.
00:37:08.000 The nurses won't be kind.
00:37:09.000 And by the way, this is what we saw with Charlie it was university professors and public school teachers and nurses.
00:37:17.000 Yes.
00:37:17.000 And like doctors.
00:37:18.000 They were the ones that were celebrating the most.
00:37:19.000 I do not know what drives these people into these professions.
00:37:23.000 But it seems to be a self selecting thing, and you get a lot of radicals that end up in these professions.
00:37:27.000 And you just actually have to have a zero tolerance policy for this.
00:37:31.000 If you are in the medical field and you talk about doing this, bam, lose your license, can never get it back, period, ever again.
00:37:38.000 And frankly, you should possibly go to jail too.
00:37:41.000 Just zero tolerance.
00:37:42.000 You can't allow this sort of thing to happen.
00:37:44.000 Now, I don't believe this individual has been fired yet.
00:37:46.000 We do not know, but his name appears to be Michael Moncure, Carolina's Rehabilitation, Atrium Health.
00:37:54.000 We hope he loses his job immediately.
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