The Charlie Kirk Show - How Turning Point Action Delivered the White House

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00:00:01.000 Tyler Boyer joins us for an in-depth election analysis.

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00:00:38.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:00:48.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:00:50.000 He's an incredible guy.

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00:01:36.000 So much is happening right now.

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00:01:40.000 We want to spend this hour to go through some of the political dynamics of what is unfolding and really go through still a diagnostic deep report of what happened this last election, what Turning Point Action was able to do, how many ballots we chased, how many low propensity voters We were able to get out to the polls.

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00:02:43.000 All right, with us is the commanding officer, COO of Turning Point Action, Tyler Boyer.

00:02:49.000 Tyler, good to see you.

00:02:50.000 Tyler, let's go through Arizona first.

00:02:53.000 Let's brag on the verifiable success of what Turning Point Action was able to do.

00:02:59.000 Arizona, the best performing swing state?

00:03:02.000 Arizona, we were able to win by nearly five and a half points.

00:03:06.000 It's actually right near 5.6, right?

00:03:08.000 5.7.

00:03:09.000 Much better performance than even in 2016 when Donald Trump won.

00:03:14.000 What was Turning Point Action able to do in the great state of Arizona?

00:03:18.000 No, Charlie, and it's a huge credit to our entire team.

00:03:22.000 First off, good to see you.

00:03:23.000 Thanks for all the hard work that you're doing right now.

00:03:27.000 Still doing.

00:03:28.000 Many people don't know it or appreciate it enough, but what Charlie's doing right now is really tough work.

00:03:34.000 No, our team had really gone in and we looked at this and we sat down, Charlie and I sat down, you know, really looking at the postmortem of 2020 and then watching in horror as basically we just waited to see the result of what the Republican establishment, the National apparatus said they were going to do to help fix Arizona.

00:03:58.000 And as we say so many times, the Calvary didn't come.

00:04:01.000 So we knew very rapidly leading into 2022, we had to do something massive in the state because Arizona, as we've repeated on this show many, many times, is kind of like the Democrats Michigan.

00:04:15.000 If you lose Arizona, your statistical chance of winning the presidency goes way down, way, way down to the tune of like over 70% of a likelihood based off of the current map.

00:04:29.000 So having our team organized, we had to build this thing fast.

00:04:32.000 We basically replicated what they've built in Michigan.

00:04:36.000 So a similar construct in Michigan, what the Democrats have done there, we built that in basically 18 months.

00:04:45.000 And they've spent the better part of probably 18 years building that there.

00:04:49.000 So we are really proud of the team that we have.

00:04:53.000 We spread our people across the state evenly and very specifically to areas that needed the most assistance.

00:05:01.000 And how we went about our work was really simple.

00:05:04.000 And we're going to talk about this a whole lot in the coming next two or four years as we prepare to enter into other states and to expand in other states and looking at how do you properly place enough people in order to chase enough ballots.

00:05:20.000 And we did that through our Superchase model.

00:05:22.000 How many ballots did we, how many disengaged low propensity voters did we chase in Arizona? 0.94

00:05:28.000 So we know we, I mean, we had a target audience in Arizona.

00:05:32.000 So to put this into perspective, when all is said and done, Arizona is going to be, again, about three and a half million, just a little bit more than three and a half million voters.

00:05:42.000 And so that was the target that we looked at.

00:05:44.000 And we took a universe of about just shy of 400,000 people that we knew we could contact, which, I mean, quick math, that's over 10% of the voters.

00:05:58.000 base of at least 10% of the voters plucking out the people who are least likely to vote.

00:06:02.000 When you do that, the method and methodology that, again, the left uses, and now what we are using is put enough bodies on the ground to chase half of those people.

00:06:14.000 That's 5%.

00:06:15.000 Well, if you can do better than that, you're going to be able to get your candidates across the finish line in a bigger number.

00:06:24.000 If you don't hit that number, and the polls, again, are within those margins, which all the swing states are, we know, have been 2, 3, 4, 5 points, you could lose.

00:06:35.000 You could lose any state.

00:06:37.000 And we look at Wisconsin, for example, Charlie, you know, that's one of those states that Trump has won and lost by very slim margins, including this year.

00:06:48.000 We did that work and performed that same work in Wisconsin, and he barely won, right?

00:06:53.000 We barely pulled out a W there.

00:06:56.000 And so this work really matters a lot, and it really comes down to just knowing the numbers.

00:07:01.000 You've got to lay out how many votes are there in total, how many are you expecting, right?

00:07:05.000 What kind of percentage are you looking at?

00:07:07.000 If you look at public polling, which not all of it's good.

00:07:10.000 We know that, right?

00:07:11.000 We saw in Iowa.

00:07:12.000 We can't trust every poll.

00:07:13.000 But you can take a smattering of those polls, identify what's winnable, and then based off of the winnability of a state, determine, can we put enough bodies on the ground to chase enough votes to make a difference?

00:07:26.000 And that's what we did in Arizona.

00:07:27.000 That's what we did in Wisconsin.

00:07:29.000 That's what we did in Michigan.

00:07:30.000 So the number in Arizona was upwards of 200,000.

00:07:34.000 Is that fair to say?

00:07:35.000 Yeah.

00:07:36.000 So in Arizona, we ultimately chase Charlie.

00:07:39.000 We will have the final, final numbers confirmed by actual voter data, which they have not yet released in Maricopa County.

00:07:47.000 So we know Maricopa County counts slow.

00:07:49.000 They also, believe it or not, release voter data very slow.

00:07:52.000 And so those numbers will be finalized.

00:07:55.000 But what we have confirmed between what we know And the people that we've chased, that we've confirmed, we well exceeded 200,000 voters, which was above our projections, above what our goals were, pretty significantly.

00:08:10.000 Well, also, and I'm looking at the numbers here, that is more than the margin of which Donald Trump won the state of Arizona by.

00:08:17.000 Donald Trump won the state of Arizona by about 186,000 votes, if my math is right-ish, 186,000 votes, which, by the way, is a triumph.

00:08:31.000 But you count those 200,000 people, without that work, Tyler, Arizona would have been a nail-biter if not a Kamala Harris victory.

00:08:39.000 Is that fair to say?

00:08:40.000 It's very fair to say, Charlie.

00:08:42.000 I mean, we ended up with three points right now before.

00:08:46.000 I mean, we're still counting votes in Arizona.

00:08:49.000 So, you know, I think we're finally hit the 99 percentile here now.

00:08:54.000 So there'll still be some trickling in.

00:08:57.000 But we're looking like in the presidential race, there was over 3.3 million votes cast.

00:09:03.000 That's a little bit below what happened last election in 2020.

00:09:07.000 But that's a pretty sizable amount of people.

00:09:12.000 But yeah, right now, where we're sitting, Donald Trump wins this election by less than 200,000 votes.

00:09:20.000 We can attest to the people that turned in ballots that we had pretty significant contact with.

00:09:26.000 And we're not talking...

00:09:28.000 Going and hanging a door hanger on their door, not sending a text message.

00:09:31.000 Those are nice things that you need and you need other groups to do as vote reminders.

00:09:39.000 We were building relationships, having five, six, seven, eight, nine meaningful relational contacts with these people.

00:09:47.000 And that's the difference.

00:09:48.000 Bringing them cookies, offering to help, bringing their groceries, seeing them at the park, waving them at the mailbox, being from their neighborhood.

00:09:56.000 That is what moves votes.

00:09:58.000 That is how you get people to turn out who are not likely to turn out.

00:10:02.000 That effectivity through our process was able to get Donald Trump across the finish line and not just Arizona, but we believe in Wisconsin as well.

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00:11:02.000 Tyler, tell us the story of what happened in Wisconsin.

00:11:05.000 Well, you know, and this is one thing I actually wanted to point out that over the break, I had our team just pull the quick numbers because I'm kind of behind a few days here just looking at the updates from where the vote totals are ending up.

00:11:18.000 There's something kind of very interesting that's happened this last election cycle, and we knew this going in.

00:11:23.000 Arizona and Wisconsin, we knew we're going to have very similar turnout numbers.

00:11:27.000 Arizona, Wisconsin only had a difference of about 30,000 votes in total turnout, which that's where it stands as of today.

00:11:35.000 And again, Arizona is still counting some votes.

00:11:37.000 Really crazy.

00:11:39.000 And I misspoke earlier.

00:11:40.000 I said that last time was a little bit bigger.

00:11:42.000 We've actually now eclipsed last time.

00:11:45.000 But this time in Arizona, and the only difference, the margin of vote difference between 2020 and 2024 is now only about 5,000 votes, which is mind-blowing because it was looking like along the pathway here that there were going to be less turnout.

00:12:03.000 Wisconsin, kind of the same thing.

00:12:05.000 Wisconsin actually has a little bit of a higher turnout than they had in 2020 as well.

00:12:13.000 Which was totally unexpected.

00:12:15.000 But that does actually tell a story about how these states, the Sun Belt, and even the Rust Belt have gotten redder and become redder.

00:12:24.000 And that was not something that was predicted by a lot of pundits heading into this election.

00:12:28.000 The general consensus, Charlie, if you remember, was going into election day.

00:12:35.000 The Sun Belt looks like it's pretty red, but the Rust Belt looks like Kamala is going to take all three states.

00:12:41.000 Or it looks like it's going to be more blue than it was last time in Michigan, even in some other places.

00:12:48.000 And that didn't happen at all.

00:12:50.000 In fact, if you look at, there's been some diagrams that showcase the changes that have happened over the last two election cycles in these individual counties.

00:12:59.000 I know we've covered it a little bit on your program, is it is getting redder and deep red.

00:13:05.000 So it wasn't Donald Trump just flipping counties.

00:13:08.000 It was counties going from light red to deep red.

00:13:11.000 And that is a phenomenon that is hard to reverse for the Democrat Party because now you have what we call habitual voters now becoming much more used to and okay with voting for a Republican president.

00:13:25.000 A lot of pundits, again, will notice trends in presidential victories, that some states are just very solid Republican presidential states, while they may vote for Democrat governors or Democrat senators.

00:13:41.000 This is very bad for the Democrats, because what seemingly is happening, and if the Republican Party can seize upon this, is create habitual Republican voting states for president.

00:13:53.000 And that would make our life a lot easier if we could accomplish that in places like Arizona and Nevada, for example, and the Sun Belt, and then obviously return things back to normal in the South and Georgia and North Carolina.

00:14:07.000 So but really quick here, in Wisconsin, we definitely chased more than 30,000 low propensity ballots.

00:14:14.000 Is that right?

00:14:14.000 Yeah.

00:14:15.000 In fact, it was pretty widely covered.

00:14:18.000 We talked about it here on your show.

00:14:20.000 We partnered with Elon Musk's America PAC because there was, out of all the states, we looked around, we were one of the only people to put a full-time office in the most important part of Wisconsin, which is Waukesha County.

00:14:35.000 If you know the Milwaukee Wow area, they call it the Wow area because of the three counties that immediately surround Milwaukee.

00:14:42.000 That's Waukesha, Washington County, and Ozaukee County.

00:14:47.000 Those three counties are your red counties.

00:14:49.000 Those are your offset to the deep blue territory in Milwaukee.

00:14:55.000 Milwaukee had something happen in it that hasn't really happened recently, which is that there was significantly lower voter turnout early there, which definitely increased the Republican margins in the deeper blue areas.

00:15:11.000 The outside counties were able to maintain their margins pretty steadily from last election, which gave Donald Trump a significant edge in the wow area.

00:15:22.000 And so when you look at this, going back to your question, was, you know, how many ballots did we chase that were low propensity?

00:15:28.000 We hit, in addition to helping Elon's group and working together and hand-in-hand with them to get out the vote, we also had over 60,000, and we're still waiting on voter data as well there, we're hoping that it's going to end up being more, 60,000 voters who are less likely voters who are able to get turned out.

00:15:46.000 So that was the difference.

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00:18:35.000 Okay, let's get Blake in on the conversation here.

00:18:38.000 Blake, so what right now is the tone or the tenor of the Democrat Party?

00:18:44.000 We annihilated them.

00:18:46.000 It was a landslide.

00:18:47.000 We won the popular vote.

00:18:48.000 We demolished on the electoral vote.

00:18:51.000 They were repudiated.

00:18:52.000 How are things going in Democrat world right now?

00:18:55.000 Well, I think I have good news and great news.

00:18:59.000 The good news is that Democrats in the middle are telling the members of their party, guys, we've gone too far.

00:19:08.000 The party got too weird.

00:19:09.000 It's caused all these problems for us.

00:19:11.000 And the great news is the far left is going, that's not true.

00:19:18.000 And then they're freaking out and they're throwing people overboard.

00:19:20.000 This is a few weeks ago, but, you know, conservatives may not have heard about it.

00:19:24.000 Is it Moulton?

00:19:26.000 Moulton?

00:19:26.000 Seth?

00:19:27.000 The guy from Massachusetts.

00:19:28.000 Yep.

00:19:29.000 He basically came out and was like, yeah, my, you know, I've got two daughters.

00:19:32.000 I don't want a guy being in the restroom with them. 1.00

00:19:35.000 And then one of his staffers quit and, like, they're publicly shaming him.

00:19:41.000 And so this is still unfolding all over the place.

00:19:44.000 You definitely have a lot of people who say, we lost because we weren't weird enough.

00:19:50.000 It's like a sick, twisted version of, you might remember, like, 2012, 2010, you'd have, you know, so-and-so would lose.

00:19:56.000 And then they go, like, they lost because they weren't conservative enough.

00:19:59.000 And it turned out it was kind of true.

00:20:00.000 We needed a different version of conservatism, basically.

00:20:03.000 But for the left, they're going, no, we aren't weird enough.

00:20:06.000 We need more of, like, the weirdest people out there.

00:20:10.000 And I think it's causing a lot of problems for their party.

00:20:13.000 And it's going to be really interesting to see how the DNC election goes.

00:20:17.000 Yeah.

00:20:17.000 So, so, Tyler, do you believe that they're going to moderate themselves or?

00:20:22.000 What is the path forward?

00:20:23.000 I think the more radical, progressive elements are actually going to come out and roar.

00:20:28.000 I think that they're going to lean further into the left-wing elements to their base.

00:20:32.000 Yeah, it's funny.

00:20:33.000 A guy that absolutely hates our guts that I've been just, like, provoking at the AZ Central, that's the Arizona Republic here locally, who's an opinion columnist, EJ Martini.

00:20:44.000 This was his opinion today.

00:20:46.000 Governor Katie Hobbs tries masquerading as Kyrsten Sinema.

00:20:50.000 It's a bad idea.

00:20:51.000 And here's why.

00:20:54.000 And this is what's happening across the country.

00:20:56.000 You're exactly right.

00:20:58.000 The left-wingers, the absolutely radical, progressive side of the party, is trying to tell everybody, no, no, no, no.

00:21:09.000 Don't be like Joe Manchin or Kyrsten Sinema. 0.88

00:21:11.000 You'll be dead.

00:21:13.000 And the reality is that part of the reason why those guys are gone...

00:21:19.000 progressive wing of the entire party.

00:21:21.000 So we're going to see a lot more of this that's happening.

00:21:24.000 Uh, you know, for us, it's, it's really positive because I mean, look, we're walking into a Congress where, you know, the left wing is making our side that people consider more right wing, our freedom caucus look very common sense.

00:21:39.000 And the freedom caucus members outnumber the separation between Democrats and Republicans.

00:21:44.000 So we're going to have another, I think, fairly conservative House session here that's coming up.

00:21:53.000 Nothing can be more exciting than that when you couple that together with Donald Trump being the president.

00:21:59.000 That's why everybody's so focused on our U.S. Senate right now.

00:22:01.000 Our senators have to step up. 0.99

00:22:04.000 They have to do a good job.

00:22:05.000 They have to follow suit.

00:22:06.000 They have to nail these guys.

00:22:08.000 Focus on attacking the left and not attacking Donald Trump.

00:22:12.000 And this is where they have a real fork in the road between the confirmations with Donald Trump and what we know is the radical left that's losing big time across the country.

00:22:22.000 So let me ask, Blake, if you were trying to give advice on how to get these cabinet officials selected and confirmed, not selected, but confirmed to the Trump team, how do you think that should be done from a strategic standpoint?

00:22:35.000 It's a good question.

00:22:36.000 I think one of the biggest advantages we have is the fact that Democrats are still fighting amongst themselves, and that helps in people's minds.

00:22:45.000 We already had, on the election night, we won the House, we won the Senate, Trump won the popular vote.

00:22:52.000 He won even more than he did in 2016.

00:22:55.000 You have all these factors together to kind of say Trump won.

00:22:59.000 He gets the chance to do what he wants.

00:23:03.000 And also, I think it just helps that he lost power, but now he came back.

00:23:08.000 He's got a second term.

00:23:11.000 And if you couple that with Democrats being in disarray, and as a result, there's not nearly as much of a resistance coming out into existence yet...

00:23:20.000 You just sort of create this.

00:23:22.000 It's like the psychological environment matters a lot.

00:23:24.000 And the psychological environment is Trump won.

00:23:27.000 The people who are against Trump are like freaking out and they're like, oh, we need to adapt our strategy.

00:23:31.000 We might need to adapt our entire worldview about politics.

00:23:36.000 All of that helps set up a situation where you can't be the Republican who steps in and says, actually, we're going to sabotage your cabinet and cause it to all be a mess.

00:23:46.000 A lot of these guys, I think you observed it yesterday, Charlie, that the people who speak about, oh, you know, they're wary about this, but they don't like to say it publicly.

00:23:55.000 They don't want to be the guys.

00:23:57.000 They want to try to sabotage anything they can before there's a vote because you can't really be the guy who votes against it.

00:24:03.000 So I think one of the strongest things Trump is doing is Trump has been saying, these are my picks.

00:24:07.000 I'm not going to reconsider them.

00:24:09.000 He said that about Gates just the other day, too.

00:24:12.000 He's saying, we're going to make you vote on it up or down.

00:24:14.000 And when you put the metaphorical gun to the head here, they're going to, I think a lot of them are going to knuckle under. 0.64

00:24:20.000 A lot of these people are psychologically a bit weak. 0.80

00:24:23.000 That's why they get browbeaten by the left so easily.

00:24:26.000 But right now the left is too disorganized to browbeat anyone.

00:24:29.000 So we can browbeat them to stay on side.

00:24:32.000 So I think aggressive posture, keep making the picks you want, tell them they're going to have to vote on them, we're going to make you have to publicly vote up or down on every single one of these, if we don't do the recess appointment approach, of course.

00:24:45.000 And if you do that, I think a lot of these guys are just going to say, okay, you get your shot, because I think they'll capitulate, basically.

00:24:54.000 Yeah, so Tyler, what is your thoughts on this?

00:24:57.000 Is it time to potentially entertain primaries of red state senators that don't represent their voters?

00:25:03.000 Oh man, Charlie, this is going to be a really fun year because you know who's going to do most of the work for us?

00:25:11.000 It's the senators themselves.

00:25:12.000 So it's not going to take a ton of convincing to get conservatives out of bed.

00:25:19.000 And actually, I think it's very helpful ahead of the midterms, quite frankly, to have an energized base that are energized about something.

00:25:30.000 And if we have some people, and I think it's going to be very few, so I totally agree with Blake.

00:25:34.000 I think you're going to have a situation where you have a lot of people who fold because they talk big talk in the cafeteria at the Capitol, but once they're out on the floor...

00:25:45.000 All of a sudden, we've seen some of this.

00:25:48.000 We've seen some people completely turn 100% around.

00:25:52.000 And I wish we had time to kind of go through some fond memories of people talking, you know, tough talk against Trump and then turning around and becoming, you know, the biggest Trump fans because they got smacked across the face a few times by the grassroots.

00:26:07.000 But the grassroots is going to serve up a hot plate of get the heck out of here to some of our senators and some of our deepest red states. 1.00

00:26:16.000 And I don't know if we want to go into that or if we want to start lobbying those bombs here yet, but...

00:26:22.000 There's some very clear places that are deep red, deep, deep red territory where President Trump won by not just double digits, but a wide, wide margin, like 20, 30 points, where some of these people are having trouble realizing who's in charge of the party right now.

00:26:42.000 And it's very clearly Donald Trump.

00:26:44.000 Why is that?

00:26:45.000 Why is it that some of the least conservative people are from the red estates, Tyler?

00:26:50.000 How does that happen?

00:26:50.000 They're not just the least conservative people, Charlie.

00:26:52.000 They're some of the least popular people.

00:26:54.000 And that's what's so mind-blowing is that you look at – literally you can look at surveys and polls on people.

00:27:03.000 Nobody likes these people.

00:27:05.000 Quite literally, no one can pick them off the street.

00:27:08.000 I won't say, again, I've told this story kind of embarrassing of this person, whoever this person was, but a statewide elected official walked right through their state fair.

00:27:18.000 Nobody even recognized who that person was.

00:27:20.000 These people are...

00:27:21.000 You cannot pick them up off the street.

00:27:23.000 Nobody knows who they are unless they're standing on C-SPAN. And I think that's part of the psychological warfare that exists behind the scenes.

00:27:35.000 They talk about the psychology of all this.

00:27:38.000 Some of these people live and die by their title and by the love that they receive from lobbyists.

00:27:44.000 And that's pretty much it.

00:27:46.000 Because they get very little love from the public.

00:27:48.000 The public doesn't like them.

00:27:50.000 You know, the party in a lot of cases doesn't like them.

00:27:53.000 You know, look at, you know, Cornyn in Texas getting booed off stage because of red flag laws and other places like that where it is happening all the time.

00:28:00.000 And so they've kind of just pivoted to their own little corner.

00:28:04.000 And what happens is that you have the NRSC and other places that have a policy of defending incumbents that spend money that keep these people in place because literally no one knows who they are.

00:28:15.000 So people just go, oh, I guess I'll just vote for the guy that has an R next to his name.

00:28:18.000 And that's what's got to change.

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00:29:24.000 All right, so Tyler, very quickly here, the status of the grassroots, the grassroots is on fire.

00:29:30.000 Talk about the need to activate the grassroots, and we're going to be doing something at Turning Point Action to give Trump his cabinet.

00:29:36.000 Kind of tease it a little bit, Tyler.

00:29:38.000 We have some big announcements coming about this.

00:29:40.000 Yeah, we've got some huge announcements.

00:29:41.000 The grassroots is the most critical part to the movement because that has been the engine for the Trump era since 2016.

00:29:51.000 We saw, I think, what's the culmination of the Tea Party movement, the constitutional conservatives coming together, now what we call America First patriots, all coming together and saying, yeah, there's nothing that's going to be able to get in our way.

00:30:03.000 And That certainly applies to presidential candidates.

00:30:07.000 We saw the slaughtering that happened during the presidential primary.

00:30:12.000 People thought, oh, this is going to be a competitive thing with Donald Trump.

00:30:15.000 And people didn't really understand what they were up against.

00:30:18.000 That's because the people are so far behind our new 47th president, our immediately past best president that we've had.

00:30:29.000 And that is not going to go well for senators who get in the way.

00:30:34.000 And so our campaign that we're going to be rolling out very quickly here, and a huge thanks to Charlie, who's been the brainchild behind much of it, which is going to be give Trump his cabinet.

00:30:46.000 And we're going to be letting people know that there's a mandate.

00:30:49.000 There's not just a mandate for the president to just be the guy that's just sitting in the chair behind the resolute desk.

00:30:58.000 It's going to be actually, you know, governing and being the executive of this country.

00:31:02.000 And we can't do that if we don't give him his people.

00:31:05.000 And so the senators are going to learn a harsh lesson, a reality, and they're going to come face to face with that mandate themselves if they don't get themselves out of the way.

00:31:16.000 And I can't imagine what their argument is going to be, Tyler, if they voted for Merrick Garland and they won't vote for Matt Gaetz.

00:31:25.000 I mean, this will send the grassroots on fire.

00:31:29.000 Yeah, I mean, Charlie, it just reminds me of Jeff Flake, you know, and we'll tell the story about Jeff Flake here over and over again here in Arizona.

00:31:38.000 You know, when he was in office, he became best buddies with Barack Obama, would shoot hoops with him.

00:31:43.000 And he went out and just decided he would approve all of Barack Obama's cabinet appointments.

00:31:52.000 And a lot of people start scratching their heads.

00:31:53.000 They go, hey, Senator, you were one of the most conservative members of Congress.

00:31:56.000 What the heck are you doing playing basketball with Barack Obama and approving all these Senate appointments?

00:32:02.000 And the guy turned.

00:32:03.000 He was doing all these things.

00:32:04.000 And then when Trump got in, if we remember correctly, he was one of those voices that stood in the way and said, you know what, I'm not going to vote for any of President Trump's people.

00:32:14.000 And people said, hey, if you were going to vote for, you know, some of these awful, awful, you know, Obama appointees, why won't you vote for, you know, really some real normie Trump appointees?

00:32:29.000 And if you remember, he was also one of the people that stood in the way for the Supreme Court issues and everything else before he ultimately chose not to run for re-election.

00:32:39.000 That's what the outcome was for Jeff Flake.

00:32:41.000 Senator Flake, who is now a card-carrying Democrat who's going out working for Joe Biden.

00:32:48.000 It's ruined his career completely.

00:32:51.000 He was one of those people that told himself that he was so upset with Trump getting into office and he was beside himself.

00:33:00.000 He couldn't believe that Mitt Romney could lose and Trump could win.

00:33:03.000 He stood there and opposed all these cabinet appointments and judicial appointments.

00:33:09.000 That's what's going to happen to all these other senators. 0.81

00:33:11.000 They're going to get Jeff Flaked is what's going to happen to them.

00:33:14.000 Tyler Boyer, very good.

00:33:16.000 Let's go to tpaction.com to follow up more, tpaction.com.

00:33:20.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:33:22.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - November 21, 2024

How Turning Point Action Delivered the White House

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