The Charlie Kirk Show - How Woke Liberals Ruined Aspen (and Ohio) with Glenn Beaton and Benie Moreno

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00:01:14.000 Really fun topic here.

00:01:15.000 And I've been saying this for quite some time.

00:01:17.000 I've been visiting Aspen for the last decade, and I've said for a while that Aspen is a perfect example of the oligarchic hellscape that the left wants to bring to America.

00:01:30.000 A book makes the argument better than I can.

00:01:32.000 It's Glenn K. Beaton.

00:01:35.000 He was the token conservative columnist at Aspen Times for seven years before being fired.

00:01:40.000 By email, on one Christmas Eve, to their dismay, he has become one of the most popular columnists in their 140-year history.

00:01:46.000 The newspaper, he now has millions of readers on his blog, theaspenbeat.com.

00:01:52.000 He has a really interesting new book called High Attitude: How Woke Liberals Ruined Aspen.

00:02:00.000 I'm so interested in this topic, and you should be too, even if you have no idea about Aspen or have been there.

00:02:08.000 It applies to the whole country.

00:02:10.000 Glenn, welcome to the program.

00:02:12.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:02:12.000 How are you?

00:02:13.000 I'm doing well.

00:02:14.000 So, Glenn, I've been visiting Aspen for quite some time.

00:02:17.000 For people that have not been to Aspen, it is as close to heaven on earth in the summer as you can get to.

00:02:23.000 And that's one of the reasons why it has been so attractive to not just the billionaires, but the billionaires of the billionaires, the plutocrats of the plutocrats.

00:02:32.000 Tell us about how Aspen used to be and what these people have done to it.

00:02:38.000 Well, Aspen has a long and very interesting history.

00:02:41.000 You know, it started as a silver mine town in the 1880s, 1870s, and it had its boom for a while.

00:02:48.000 At one point, it was supplying one-sixth of the country's silver supply and one-sixteenth of the world's silver supply.

00:02:55.000 It was huge.

00:02:57.000 They had electric lights, they had a trolley down Main Street.

00:03:00.000 It was really quite an advanced place for the time.

00:03:02.000 Of course, the silver bus came and they became virtually a ghost town.

00:03:07.000 And they went through the quiet years up to the 30s and the early 40s.

00:03:12.000 And then something quite amazing happened.

00:03:14.000 A prominent, wealthy industrialist out of Chicago called Walter Pepke and his wife Elizabeth got enamored by the place, moved there, and drew with them all these Chicago connections.

00:03:29.000 And they got acquainted with veterans of the Tenth Mountain Division, the World War II skiing, outdoorsy mountaineering division, who were familiar with Aspen because they had trained nearby.

00:03:43.000 So they saw Aspen, they saw the snow, they saw the beauty.

00:03:47.000 They had a vision for it.

00:03:49.000 And so this industrialist with his money and the Tenth Mountain people with their expertise and their attitude and their ambition started Aspen, re-founded Aspen as a ski resort.

00:04:03.000 And it quickly became sort of an intellectual retreat.

00:04:06.000 These people were really very intellectual, friends with Morterer Adler, and they started the Aspen Institute in 1949.

00:04:15.000 It took off and it was wildly successful a while.

00:04:22.000 They had all kinds of terrific stuff going on there.

00:04:25.000 They started the Aspen Institute, the Aspen Music Festival, which is still in existence.

00:04:30.000 The Ideas Festival came a little bit later.

00:04:32.000 The place really became kind of like an Athens of the West or a Chautagua in the Rockies.

00:04:38.000 It was tremendously successful and a wonderful place.

00:04:42.000 It all kind of went to hell in the 60s when the Hollywood types and the drug types and the Hunter S. Thompson types moved to town and dragged it down.

00:04:53.000 But for a while, it was really a fantastic place.

00:04:56.000 It's still a fantastic place physically, aesthetically, but the people are all kind of screwed up now.

00:05:03.000 So talk about the wokeism, especially the last decade, and also talk about the flagrant income inequality where ownership of property in Aspen is not possible for the working class.

00:05:15.000 It's all renters or it's all heavily subsidized.

00:05:19.000 And but for the rulers, the oligarchs, they have $100 million mansions, no exaggeration. 0.86

00:05:24.000 No place is as income or wealth, great wealth disparity as Aspen.

00:05:30.000 And that's the incubator of a lot of this woke nonsense that we see permeating the rest of the country.

00:05:38.000 Yeah, you know, it's not unique to Aspen.

00:05:43.000 It's extreme in Aspen.

00:05:45.000 But what you see, I think, is taking over our culture altogether.

00:05:49.000 You see this polarization of two groups.

00:05:52.000 Both, interestingly, are really quite woke and liberal and leftist.

00:05:56.000 There's the billionaires who have driven out the millionaires in Aspen, as you're aware.

00:06:02.000 And then there's the other end of it.

00:06:04.000 There's the service class of people.

00:06:06.000 Well, the service class of people now is in subsidized housing.

00:06:09.000 45% of the town is in taxpayer subsidized housing.

00:06:14.000 It's not just subsidized a little bit.

00:06:16.000 It's extremely subsidized.

00:06:17.000 These people have multi-million dollar places.

00:06:20.000 Sometimes they're slopeside and they pay a few hundred thousand dollars for them.

00:06:25.000 So there's this extreme subsidy.

00:06:28.000 They're on the housing dole.

00:06:29.000 They're on housing welfare.

00:06:31.000 And you know what happens when people get on welfare, if they're not already tilted to the left, they're going to get tilted to the left in order to justify their welfare existence.

00:06:40.000 So that class is all extreme left, and it's 45% of the voters, at least.

00:06:46.000 And then at the other extreme are the billionaire billionaires.

00:06:50.000 And they tend to be leftist too for different reasons, for more ideological reasons.

00:06:55.000 It's not so much for their selfishness, but for their sociological bent.

00:07:00.000 So there they are on the other extreme in terms of wealth, but at the same leftist attitude.

00:07:08.000 What's interesting to see is how these two outfits, these two groups war with one another.

00:07:15.000 The service people, the lower income people who are on subsidized housing.

00:07:20.000 Oh, I have to mention just a parenthetical.

00:07:23.000 You would think that subsidized housing is reserved for people who are making a few tens of thousands of dollars a year or whatever.

00:07:29.000 The income cutoff is $300,000.

00:07:32.000 Are you kidding me?

00:07:34.000 No.

00:07:34.000 You can get in taxpayer subsidized housing where you get slopeside, multi-million dollar places for dimes on the dollar and still make as much as $300,000 a year and have a net worth of $1 million a year.

00:07:48.000 So, you know, these aren't people who really need the money.

00:07:51.000 These are people who just have their finger in the middle.

00:07:53.000 But is that from Pitkin County or what is that?

00:07:56.000 I mean, who subsidizes?

00:07:57.000 Is that from the Aspen City Council or where does that money come from?

00:08:01.000 Well, where the money comes from is a wealth tax or a sales tax on housing sales.

00:08:08.000 They impose a 1% sales tax on the sale of every house in Pitkin County.

00:08:13.000 1% on the sale of every house in Pitkin County adds up.

00:08:16.000 You know, $100 million place, the wealth tax on that transaction is a million bucks.

00:08:21.000 So they generate something like $20 million a year through their taxpayer subsidized housing sales tax.

00:08:30.000 So that's where it comes from.

00:08:31.000 And of course, they borrow money too, because no matter how many millions you have, if you're on the left, you want to get more if you can, and you can if you borrow it.

00:08:40.000 So you have these two groups at war with one another.

00:08:43.000 The service people who are not starving, they're certainly not poor.

00:08:49.000 They're better off than far better off than the average American in terms of wealth, are mad at the billionaires because they envy the billionaires and they want more of the billionaires' money.

00:09:02.000 So I saw just recently, Aspen decided to double its hotel tax.

00:09:09.000 If you say at Aspen, like the week of Christmas, you're looking at a couple thousand dollars a night.

00:09:13.000 It's expensive.

00:09:15.000 Well, they doubled the hotel tax to 21%.

00:09:19.000 So add that to your bill too.

00:09:23.000 There's this hatred of the visitors, but at the same time, they need and want the money from the visitors.

00:09:28.000 There's a column at my old paper who just wrote a column a couple months ago complaining about the visitors and wishing the visitors would stop coming.

00:09:38.000 Well, you know, the visitors are the source of all of Aspen's wealth right now.

00:09:43.000 So I think what he was suggesting is maybe they ought to just mail their money in.

00:09:47.000 Yeah, and these are the same people that want to open borders in our country, but don't come here.

00:09:52.000 You know, let's keep ask the Aspen pristine, but we want 5,000 people a day coming across the border.

00:09:58.000 The book is high attitude.

00:09:59.000 I have a lot more questions about this.

00:10:01.000 And I don't say this kiddingly.

00:10:04.000 If you go to Aspen, it is literally one of the most obnoxiously woke places on the planet.

00:10:11.000 It is worse than Portland and Seattle, where some Aspen wine mom driving a Maserati is going to lecture you about BLM or trans rights. 0.65

00:10:21.000 It's unbelievable.

00:10:22.000 I want to ask you about that.

00:10:22.000 Maybe it is the altitude.

00:10:24.000 I don't know.

00:10:25.000 There's something strange happening there.

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00:11:46.000 High attitude, not high altitude, high attitude, how woke liberals ruined Aspen, Glenn K. Beaton.

00:11:53.000 So, Glenn, I think Aspen has more, let's just say, miserable liberals visit than any other city in America between the months of June and August.

00:12:02.000 It's amazing.

00:12:03.000 Aspen Institute Ideas Festival, Aspen Food and Wine.

00:12:06.000 I mean, it's so incredibly beautiful there.

00:12:08.000 And I think the beauty is actually the magnet of why a lot of these people come there.

00:12:13.000 But tell us, what do you think is the lesson for the rest of the country from Aspen?

00:12:17.000 What can we learn of what they've done to Aspen that they are either applying or will apply to the rest of the country?

00:12:24.000 Well, there's a couple of things that come to mind.

00:12:26.000 One is this obsession with race, I think, is very unfortunate for the country.

00:12:31.000 And you see that to some extent in Aspen.

00:12:33.000 It's not like there's racial strife in Aspen, but as far as I know, there's not a black person living in Aspen right now.

00:12:40.000 The only one I know of in the valley is a friend of mine from Down Valley.

00:12:44.000 But to give you an idea of the wokeness and the virtue signaling that goes on, the president of Aspen Skiing Company, Aspen Skiing Company is, you know, it's not a huge company, but they employ a thousand people.

00:12:57.000 They're a big deal in the valley anyway.

00:12:59.000 He wrote an op-ed piece for the Wall Street Journal a few years ago where he decried President Trump's clamping down on illegal immigration.

00:13:10.000 And the rationale he gave for why this was such a bad thing was that it was costing him visitors in the form of rich Mexican skiers. 0.98

00:13:20.000 And I thought, well, come on now, how many rich Mexican skiers are out there? 0.88

00:13:25.000 And certainly they're not being barred from coming across the border.

00:13:28.000 But his point was, oh, but they sympathize with these poor, illegal Mexican immigrants. 0.92

00:13:34.000 But I don't think to the extent there are any rich Mexican skiers that they sympathize with the poor illegal immigrants.

00:13:39.000 But anyway, that was his rationale.

00:13:42.000 I thought about it for a while, and it dawned on me that what's really going on here is the clampdown is interfering with the pool of low-priced labor that they rely on in the valley.

00:13:54.000 So in the guise of complaining about the loss of rich Mexican skiers, which interfered with his profits, and calling the president a racist or implying that the president is a racist as a result, what he was really doing was complaining about the interference with his source of cheap Mexican labor.

00:14:16.000 Another thing from the same guy, he wrote another piece.

00:14:21.000 Well, he wrote a memo to his employees and sent it to all thousand employees.

00:14:26.000 He was dismayed that they don't have enough black skiers in Aspen.

00:14:30.000 Of course, there's not very many black skiers anywhere.

00:14:34.000 You know, it's not racist to say, but it's not.

00:14:36.000 It's a fact.

00:14:37.000 That's exactly right.

00:14:38.000 Yeah, you know, it's a matter of demographics and statistical facts. 0.97

00:14:42.000 Blacks don't ski that much. 1.00

00:14:44.000 But he thought this was a terrible thing. 0.96

00:14:46.000 But he managed to get a week from the Black Skiing Association.

00:14:51.000 There is such a thing.

00:14:52.000 So it was Black Skier Week. 0.91

00:14:55.000 So he sends out a memo to all thousand employees telling them how to behave around black people. 0.96

00:15:01.000 I thought it was interesting that he thought so little of his employees that he had to tell them how to behave around black people. 0.93

00:15:08.000 But he did. 0.68

00:15:09.000 Some of the things from the memo were unbelievable.

00:15:11.000 He said, you don't want to do anything that might set them off and make them think they're being discriminated against.

00:15:18.000 For example, if the restaurant doesn't open until 5 o'clock and they show up at 4 o'clock, you can't tell them, sorry, the restaurant's closed and we don't open till 5 because they might think that you're being racially discriminatory.

00:15:33.000 Special privileges, right?

00:15:34.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:15:36.000 If they want to park their car in a no-parking zone, he said, don't tell them no parking there.

00:15:41.000 Just let them park their car there.

00:15:44.000 So, I think if they want to go to Prada and just, you know, grab a couple purses, that's just fine.

00:15:49.000 Yeah, why not?

00:15:51.000 I'm thinking, where does this end?

00:15:52.000 Are they going to adjust lift prices in proportion to the darkness of the skin or inversely in proportion to the darkness of the skin?

00:16:01.000 Oh, no, they'll get there.

00:16:02.000 Yeah, they will.

00:16:04.000 So, then you're going to have to have guys putting on blackface in order to get the low lift price. 0.88

00:16:09.000 So, super, super curious, just really quick as we're ending here.

00:16:13.000 High attitude by Glenn K. Beaton: How many illegal immigrants has the Aspen City Council decided to take in to Aspen?

00:16:23.000 Do you have a number?

00:16:26.000 It is exactly zero, so far as I know.

00:16:30.000 But I will say, Tucker Carlson, who's been in the news lately, suggested on a program last fall, I think, that they ought to, they, being Governor Abbott in Texas and Governor DeSantis in Florida, ought to start shipping the illegal Mexican immigrants to Aspen and see how they like them there.

00:16:48.000 As soon as they start clogging up the ski lift in Aspen, you will have a revolt of the wine moms that you couldn't even imagine. 1.00

00:16:57.000 Very important book: High Attitude, Glenn K. Beaton, How a Beautiful Place Aspen has been ruined by the Wokies. 1.00

00:17:03.000 Close to my heart.

00:17:04.000 I could talk about this all hour.

00:17:06.000 Glenn, thank you so much.

00:17:07.000 Thank you, John.

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00:18:33.000 Charlie, how are you?

00:18:34.000 Bernie, how are you?

00:18:35.000 Welcome to the program, Bernie.

00:18:36.000 I've known you for years.

00:18:37.000 I think I met you in an elevator at the Republican National Convention in Cleveland, Ohio.

00:18:43.000 No, it's the convention.

00:18:44.000 It was a debate in August of 2015.

00:18:46.000 Is my memory right?

00:18:47.000 That's what's eight years ago.

00:18:49.000 And it was.

00:18:50.000 And both of us have gotten younger, thank God.

00:18:52.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:18:53.000 Exactly.

00:18:54.000 Well, Bernie, I'm really excited about what you're planning to do in Ohio.

00:18:58.000 So tell us all about it.

00:18:59.000 So, as you know, Charlie, of somebody who moved here from South America as a kid, you know, basically lived the American dream, came to Cleveland 18 years ago, built a small little dealership, and turned into a really great company.

00:19:13.000 And I would never have imagined that would be in political office.

00:19:16.000 But here we are.

00:19:17.000 And the reality is it's pretty straightforward.

00:19:19.000 DC is fundamentally broken.

00:19:21.000 And the reason it's broken is because we have politicians from both parties that go down there for their own benefit, sell our country out, don't keep any of their promises.

00:19:29.000 And if we don't send outsiders, business people, people who've done something in their lives, will never fix DC.

00:19:35.000 So, Bernie, you've built a beautiful business.

00:19:37.000 It's very impressive, and you're a rock star conservative.

00:19:39.000 Tell us about the business you've built.

00:19:41.000 It's amazing.

00:19:42.000 It truly is.

00:19:44.000 I put every cent I had into buying this tiny little dealership.

00:19:47.000 It sold four cars a month.

00:19:49.000 Our first month in business, we sold 80 cars, turned into one of the largest dealers in the central United States.

00:19:55.000 I built 14 more dealerships for a total of 15.

00:19:59.000 We did almost a billion dollars in sales, had thousands of people employed, and sold that business four years ago to start a technology company using blockchain technology to make car titles digital.

00:20:10.000 That company has done very, very well.

00:20:12.000 I've just sold my shares in that company to focus on this, which is really my way of serving our country because, you know, again, if we don't step in, if we don't do something, we're going to lose our country.

00:20:23.000 And I'm not prepared to allow that to happen without at least giving it all I've got.

00:20:27.000 So Ohio has changed a lot politically, actually, favorably.

00:20:31.000 A lot of other states have gone the wrong direction.

00:20:32.000 Ohio's going the right direction.

00:20:34.000 You're basically running for the right or the ability to run up against Sherrod Brown, who I think is a fraud.

00:20:40.000 Tell us about him.

00:20:42.000 I mean, this is a guy who's been in elected office his entire life, literally has done nothing else other than collect a taxpayer-funded salary.

00:20:51.000 No matter whether he succeeded or failed, and obviously he's failed.

00:20:54.000 Ohio's lost tons of manufacturing jobs.

00:20:56.000 We lost the Lordstown plant to Mexico and China.

00:21:01.000 Did nothing to stop it.

00:21:02.000 He's wholly unqualified to lead any position of power in Washington, D.C., completely out of touch.

00:21:11.000 His voting record resembles more Elizabeth Warren and Diane Feinstein, completely out of step with people of Ohio.

00:21:17.000 We'll expose him for that.

00:21:19.000 And when we do, we're going to turn the seat from blue to red and recapture the Senate majority, which is the only way we get our country back on track.

00:21:26.000 And so let's talk about some of the big issues that are happening right now.

00:21:30.000 For example, what's happening on the border: 5,000 people a day invading our country.

00:21:34.000 You're a legal immigrant.

00:21:35.000 You came into this country. 1.00

00:21:36.000 You love, you know, you love America.

00:21:38.000 And yet, it must be an insult to you to see just these lawbreakers, these vigilantes, 5,000 a day coming into the border across the border.

00:21:45.000 Your thoughts?

00:21:46.000 This is offensive to you.

00:21:48.000 It is wholly offensive to me.

00:21:50.000 This is, you know, my family came here legally.

00:21:53.000 We followed the rules.

00:21:54.000 We did all the right things.

00:21:55.000 I waited 13 years to become a U.S. citizen.

00:21:58.000 To reward people that are coming into our country legally is absolutely disgusting. 0.52

00:22:03.000 I actually believe it's treasonous that our elected leaders in D.C. even allow this to happen.

00:22:08.000 And what we've basically done, Charlie, is we've said, listen, here's the entire U.S. immigration policy.

00:22:14.000 And we've handed over responsibility for our immigration policy to the Mexican drug cartels, which is insane.

00:22:21.000 No country on earth would ever do something like that.

00:22:25.000 It is incredible we're allowing happen.

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00:22:32.000 By the way, what's the website where people can help you out, Bernie?

00:22:34.000 Pretty straightforward.

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00:22:38.000 That's great.

00:22:38.000 Let's play CUT 21.

00:22:42.000 Where are we headed in America?

00:22:44.000 President Trump put us on a path to prosperity.

00:22:48.000 But today, China is buying our land, drugs pour through our borders, while our tax dollars flow to foreign countries and our jobs stream overseas.

00:22:58.000 The country we love is being ruined by insider politicians.

00:23:03.000 I'm Bernie Marino.

00:23:05.000 I've always been an outsider.

00:23:07.000 When I was five, my family came here legally in Columbia because my parents believed in the American dream.

00:23:14.000 I loved cars and dreamed of being the president of General Motors Meierberg, born in 1981.

00:23:21.000 And a lot of drive, I worked myself into the auto industry from the outside.

00:23:26.000 I wanted my own dealership, but industry insiders nearly stopped me.

00:23:30.000 I spent every cent I had and made it happen.

00:23:34.000 15 years later, I owned 15 dealerships and had created thousands of Ohio jobs.

00:23:41.000 Now, I'm running for Senate.

00:23:43.000 And you guessed it.

00:23:44.000 I'd be an outsider in Washington, too.

00:23:47.000 I'm not a career politician.

00:23:49.000 I've never held office.

00:23:51.000 I'm doing this because I firmly believe that career politicians have put us in a ditch and we need outsiders to fix this country.

00:23:58.000 When my family left our home, it was for a better life.

00:24:02.000 But today, we're losing our country because corrupt and cowardly insider politicians from both parties sell us out.

00:24:11.000 We can take out the drug cartels at our borders, China in our economy, the criminals on our streets, and the leftists in our schools. 0.77

00:24:19.000 Only will we take out the politicians from office? 0.68

00:24:24.000 It takes new leaders who are willing to fight to save the America first values we share.

00:24:30.000 I will never apologize for my beliefs.

00:24:32.000 I will never apologize for fighting for the middle class to grow and thrive in this country.

00:24:37.000 When insiders lose, we win.

00:24:40.000 I'm Bernie Marino.

00:24:41.000 I'm an outsider conservative running for Senate.

00:24:45.000 Together, we'll turn Washington inside out.

00:24:53.000 It's a great ad.

00:24:54.000 So, Bernie, your life story is amazing.

00:24:56.000 I mean, so you've come here, you built something from nothing.

00:24:58.000 And so, Bernie, it must drive you nuts when you hear some of these activists at, you know, Ohio State University or any of these schools say that we're racist, we're an awful country, CRT.

00:25:08.000 I mean, you came here, you had to build something from absolute nothing.

00:25:12.000 Talk about this cancer, this virus of anti-American ism that is spreading throughout our country.

00:25:19.000 It's the most dangerous thing we're facing, Charlie, because the reality is everybody in America has the incredible privilege of being in this country.

00:25:27.000 This is the true privilege is being American.

00:25:30.000 And this is the greatest country on earth.

00:25:32.000 Even with our problems today, we're better than the next five countries combined.

00:25:36.000 And we've always been a great country.

00:25:38.000 We've been a beacon of hope for the whole world.

00:25:40.000 And what the left, the radical left and the media, especially in universities, is teaching our kids that there's something fundamentally wrong with the country when the reality, there's fundamentally something wrong with them.

00:25:52.000 You know, here's the deal.

00:25:54.000 You're not seeing Americans fleeing the country going to Mexico and Mexico asking us to put up a wall.

00:25:59.000 It's the other way around.

00:26:00.000 We have millions of people that want to come to this country, black people, Hispanics, now Chinese nationals.

00:26:06.000 This is a great country, but we have to control who comes here in an orderly fashion. 0.83

00:26:12.000 And that shouldn't be controversial, Charlie.

00:26:13.000 That's just common sense.

00:26:15.000 Well, and Sherrod Brown, who allegedly represents the working class voter, is doing the opposite.

00:26:21.000 Perfectly fine with open borders, perfectly fine with all this nonsense.

00:26:25.000 And he needs to be held accountable to it.

00:26:27.000 And so JD Vance is doing a fabulous job in the U.S. Senate.

00:26:31.000 And I think you would be a great one-two combo.

00:26:34.000 Talk about how you are going to represent Ohio values as Ohio has really become one of the more conservative states, not just in the Midwest, but in the country.

00:26:45.000 JD and I are good friends, and we both agree on the foundational principle that we have to get our own house in order.

00:26:52.000 We have to make certain that we're putting America first.

00:26:54.000 East Palestine being a great example, right? 1.00

00:26:57.000 Our president is out there giving billions of dollars to foreign countries on President's Day, while President Trump is in East Palestine caring for the people, showing empathy, making certain that they knew they weren't left behind.

00:27:10.000 You know, when JD went there and showed people what was really going on, that's what got the attention to finally happen on East Palestine.

00:27:16.000 But we have homeless vets. 1.00

00:27:18.000 We have Americans that grow hungry at night.

00:27:20.000 We have schools that are failing.

00:27:21.000 We have dangerous cities.

00:27:23.000 We can't take care of the rest of the world until we take care of America and grow our middle class first. 1.00

00:27:30.000 Again, that should not be controversial.

00:27:33.000 Everybody should be able to understand and rally behind that.

00:27:36.000 That's exactly right.

00:27:37.000 And we should be able to prioritize our own country.

00:27:40.000 What are your thoughts on America funding the proxy war in eastern Ukraine?

00:27:45.000 Well, the reality is we have to always remind people, Charlie, how we got into the situation in the first place.

00:27:52.000 Weakness by Obama Biden, invaded an invasion of Crimea by Putin.

00:27:57.000 That was one.

00:27:58.000 The Germans allowing themselves to be taken over economically for energy dependence on Russia.

00:28:05.000 And the Democrats, including Sherrod Brown, voting to lift those sanctions.

00:28:10.000 And of course, the horrific withdrawal from Afghanistan showed Putin that America wouldn't stand strong.

00:28:17.000 And then, of course, Biden ignored the fact that Russia was going to invade.

00:28:22.000 This war should have been stopped before it started.

00:28:25.000 And it was Biden that allowed it.

00:28:27.000 But now that the situation has occurred, we cannot give Ukraine a blank check.

00:28:32.000 Nobody should disagree with that.

00:28:34.000 And we have to make certain that we de-escalate this conflict and make certain that we find a way to resolve this.

00:28:41.000 Currently, China is leading those peace talks, which is just crazy.

00:28:45.000 It really is.

00:28:46.000 It's outrageous.

00:28:47.000 Bernie, website, BernieMoreno.com.

00:28:50.000 Best of luck, Bernie.

00:28:51.000 Thank you so much, and come back soon.

00:28:53.000 Thank you, Charlie.

00:28:54.000 Thanks for having me.

00:28:54.000 I appreciate it.

00:28:54.000 Thank you.

00:28:55.000 He'll be the good Bernie in the Senate for the record.

00:28:57.000 Email us freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:28:59.000 I'm going to play some tape here for you guys.

00:29:01.000 There's so much news happening today, and we're getting more and more news about the exit of Tucker Carlson.

00:29:10.000 It's just absolutely incredible.

00:29:12.000 The type of Republican that's really happy with Tucker Carlson being taken off the airwaves is Asa Hutchinson, play cut four. 1.00

00:29:19.000 So, Governor, you have said there's no point in running unless you're going straight at former President Trump.

00:29:24.000 You right now, though, in the polling are at 1% or less in all the recent polls.

00:29:28.000 So, you know, going after him is like walking into a buzzsaw.

00:29:31.000 Why are you doing it?

00:29:34.000 Well, because it's important.

00:29:35.000 What America does not want is another repeat of 2020 where we have Joe Biden and Donald Trump running against each other.

00:29:43.000 And so I'm running because I think we need alternatives and we need new leadership, a new direction in America.

00:29:50.000 We need new alternatives, new direction in America.

00:29:52.000 You see, he's exactly the type of Republican that Tucker Carlson made irrelevant.

00:29:58.000 Tucker Carlson made that entire genre of Republicans irrelevant.

00:30:04.000 That attitude, the smugness, the pomposity.

00:30:08.000 What was Tucker's famous sign-off?

00:30:10.000 We are the so he didn't do it as much recently, but he used to do it all the time.

00:30:15.000 We are the sworn enemy of groupthink, pomposity, smugness.

00:30:23.000 I think that's right, isn't it?

00:30:25.000 I think I got them all.

00:30:29.000 Lying, pomposity, smugness, and groupthink.

00:30:34.000 It was well said.

00:30:36.000 I'm going to play a chilling piece of tape of an interview I had with Tucker Carlson a couple years ago, where he predicted this.

00:30:45.000 Let's play cut 22.

00:30:47.000 Tucker said, they're going to take me out.

00:30:49.000 They're going to crush me.

00:30:50.000 He told us that a couple of years ago, play cut 22.

00:30:54.000 You got to go address all of our thousands of students.

00:30:57.000 Last piece of advice for young people, get married. 1.00

00:31:00.000 Yeah, get married and have a ton of kids.

00:31:02.000 I mean, get married when you're too young, have more kids than you can afford.

00:31:05.000 Take a job you're not qualified for.

00:31:07.000 Live boldly.

00:31:08.000 Stop getting high.

00:31:09.000 Stop doing anything that blurs your vision or makes time go faster.

00:31:13.000 You're going to die before you know it.

00:31:14.000 Don't waste a second.

00:31:15.000 That's the sin is living thoughtlessly and wasting time.

00:31:20.000 It's the one thing you can't get back.

00:31:21.000 I've wasted a lot of money in my life.

00:31:24.000 Oh my gosh.

00:31:25.000 I don't care.

00:31:26.000 I don't regret any of it.

00:31:27.000 Every room service meal was worth it.

00:31:29.000 It was fine.

00:31:30.000 But any time that I wasted is really bitter for me because it's finite.

00:31:36.000 And so live as fully as you can.

00:31:38.000 And you can't control all this stuff that's going on.

00:31:40.000 You can't control what Google does.

00:31:41.000 And honestly, they're going to win.

00:31:43.000 Like, the powers that be will win, at least in the short term.

00:31:46.000 Ultimately, they'll all blow up.

00:31:47.000 But, like, we're powerless and hated.

00:31:50.000 I think this myself all the time.

00:31:51.000 Are they going to crush me?

00:31:52.000 Oh, yeah.

00:31:53.000 Okay.

00:31:54.000 Oh, yeah.

00:31:55.000 They're going to crush me.

00:31:57.000 Today on April 24th, at least his show has been crushed.

00:32:02.000 According to the Los Angeles Times, says that Rupert Murdoch himself pushed out Tucker Carlson.

00:32:09.000 Murdoch is also said to be concerned over Carlson's coverage of January 6th.

00:32:14.000 It's interesting how all these roads intersect, don't they?

00:32:18.000 Cut two, 60 minutes covering January 6th.

00:32:22.000 This is all around disruption of a sacred narrative.

00:32:27.000 Tucker Carlson was able to challenge something that was sacrosanct to the regime.

00:32:34.000 Play cut two.

00:32:36.000 One of the things that's now prevalent on the American right is sort of anti-government extremism, this idea that the deep state and the government is colluding against the American people.

00:32:44.000 This is part of a sort of an extremist ideology that says that the government is out to get the little guy, out to get the right-wingers, the conservatives, and will do anything, including setting them up at the Capitol to do so.

00:32:56.000 Yeah, it's a right-wing conspiracy to believe that there were federal agents there, even though Christopher Wray and documents have said that there are federal agents.

00:33:03.000 There were federal agents, and we don't know how many involved on January 6th.

00:33:07.000 How many informants were there?

00:33:08.000 How many federal agents were engaged?

00:33:10.000 We don't know.

00:33:10.000 That's the question.

00:33:11.000 We're just asking the question.

00:33:12.000 Tucker Carlson has done a profound service to the country.

00:33:21.000 And the left is celebrating because they think that Tucker leaving Fox News eliminates his voice.

00:33:24.000 That's wrong.

00:33:25.000 He will be stronger than ever.

00:33:27.000 He will have a bigger platform, especially in alternative media.

00:33:31.000 He could end up being a Joe Rogan-style voice.

00:33:34.000 And I think you want to talk about a popular podcast?

00:33:37.000 Woo! 0.99

00:33:38.000 Tucker Carlson sits down with people just at length and just chats.

00:33:43.000 Oof, that will be.

00:33:45.000 You think he was popular then?

00:33:49.000 He'll be popular, beyond powerful.

00:33:53.000 But it goes to show that they go after every one of them.

00:33:55.000 They indict Donald Trump.

00:33:56.000 They indict Steve Bannon.

00:33:57.000 They indict Dinesh D'Souza.

00:33:58.000 They take out James O'Keefe.

00:33:59.000 They take out Tucker Carlson.

00:34:02.000 It's part of their strategies.

00:34:03.000 It's part of their game plan.

00:34:05.000 Email here.

00:34:06.000 Charlie, don't you think the Dominion settlement and January 6th had anything to do with this?

00:34:11.000 Possibly.

00:34:11.000 We don't know.

00:34:12.000 We don't know all the dynamics.

00:34:13.000 What I do know is that this seems to be a total surprise, an absolute shock to the system.

00:34:19.000 And if I were to give business advice to Fox News, I would say you're making a big mistake here.

00:34:25.000 This is not smart.

00:34:27.000 Don't do this.

00:34:29.000 It seems that the Abby Grossberg lawsuit might have done this.

00:34:34.000 I don't know what it is, but we're just speculating at this point.

00:34:40.000 Tucker seemed joyful and himself on his program on Friday.

00:34:43.000 Seems like he was totally taken by surprise.

00:34:46.000 We'll see.

00:34:46.000 We'll see if they're able to survive.

00:34:48.000 They've lost a lot in market cap, and there are legitimate competitors.

00:34:54.000 But we reflect on, yeah, we reflect on the seven years that Tucker was on primetime television.

00:35:00.000 He was our go-to hedge against tyranny.

00:35:03.000 He was our go-to voice against totalitarianism.

00:35:10.000 We'll see where he ends up next.

00:35:12.000 Definitely one of the biggest news stories of this month and so far this year.

00:35:19.000 The narrative buster of Operation Mockingbird.

00:35:24.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:35:25.000 Email us your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:35:28.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

00:35:33.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - April 25, 2023

How Woke Liberals Ruined Aspen (and Ohio) with Glenn Beaton and Benie Moreno

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