On this episode of The Charlie Kirk Show: Hour 2, we are joined by Tyler Boyer, COO of Turning Point USA, and Sheriff Mark Lamb, who is running for Congress in the 5th congressional district of Arizona.
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00:01:09.000All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show Hour 2.
00:01:14.000Got, of course, Tyler Boyer, COO of Turning Point Action, one of the most important activists in the country.
00:01:20.000Tyler Boyer, I just want to give you some flowers, some kudos there.
00:01:24.000But we're also joined this hour by a great friend of the show, great friend of Arizona, great friend of the country, a patriot, Sheriff Mark Lamb.
00:01:37.000I wish Charlie were here as well with us, you know, but and my condolences to all of you guys and to everybody, the Turning Point family, and of course, Erica and her kids.
00:01:48.000But he's a true patriot and it's honored to be on the show today.
00:01:51.000Yeah, well, we're honored to have you here.
00:01:53.000And, you know, we've got to fill the audience in on some updates because there's a lot of moving pieces.
00:02:00.000You know, we think about 2026, we think about 2028, but there's a lot of stuff that's going on behind the scenes.
00:02:06.000Tyler, you are one of the key players, I would say, nationally that is working to make sure that the conservative grassroots, I mean, Charlie always said we want Republicans in Congress, in the Senate, in the White House that are as conservative as the base.
00:02:20.000Tyler, explain, set the stage, and then we'll throw it to Sheriff Lamb.
00:02:24.000Yeah, I mean, this is the problem that we have across the country right now is we need to convince good people to run for office and they have to be ready to go, meaning they have to have some backing, already some name IDs, some understanding of what the issues are that are at hand.
00:02:41.000And, you know, that's why it's so exciting to see good people run.
00:02:45.000And I think you have some big news today, right?
00:02:49.000I do, and I agree with you wholeheartedly.
00:02:51.000And I just want to say thank you for the work that Turning Point and Turning Point Action has done, mobilizing.
00:03:34.000I believe in our history, our birthright.
00:03:36.000And I think America has a bright future, and I want to be part of it.
00:03:39.000Well, this district is really special because this is Andy Biggs district.
00:03:43.000So this is really a lot of people have called this the epicenter of the Freedom Caucus because this is Andy Biggs, as we know, was the long-standing chair of the Freedom Caucus.
00:04:05.000Andy has been a stalwart in the Freedom Caucus.
00:04:09.000He understands the Constitution and representing his people.
00:04:12.000And he has that belief in God, family, freedom like I do, where his decisions are trying to always do what's right by his citizens and taking those three things into consideration.
00:05:42.000I just think it was just kind of an interesting thing here.
00:05:46.000What is your plan kind of moving forward to hit the ground running because you're so well known?
00:05:52.000How do you think that you're going to be able to be a voice on behalf of Americans as soon as you get into Congress?
00:05:58.000What's the first thing that Mark Lamb's going to tackle?
00:06:01.000Well, look, I pride myself on my work ethics.
00:06:03.000So, first of all, you've got to get into the office.
00:06:05.000We've got to work hard, and I'm going to show the people of CD5 that I'll work just as hard for them in Washington, D.C. We've got a lot of issues.
00:06:13.000The border is still something that's got to be solidified.
00:06:16.000What we saw from President Trump coming in is we didn't need more laws.
00:06:21.000And now what we need and a new leader, because he's truly a leader, and he's taken us places that this country has been needing to go for a long time.
00:06:32.000We've got to make sure that we continue with that.
00:06:34.000And so I hope to help him fix the border long term, get some long-term fixes through Congress.
00:06:39.000We want to make sure we continue to fund and support our law enforcement across this country, federal, and we want to give all the support to the states for their state and local law enforcement.
00:07:06.000But obviously, I think the border, securing that, making sure that we get a long-term fix to the border and remove the people that have been in this country illegally, I think is some of the things that I hope to be able to help President Trump do.
00:07:20.000I mean, you've seen ICE facilities get shot up.
00:07:23.000You've seen this 1,000% increase on assaults on ICE agents.
00:07:27.000I mean, I think basically most of the energy that the Dem showed with this no-kings nonsense came from the immigration policies of President Trump, right?
00:07:38.000The ICE agents, they're calling it some of the National Guard story as well.
00:07:43.000But then you had the story that came out of Los Angeles yesterday where a federal agent was shot trying to arrest an illegal alien L.A. And I guess the illegal alien got shot.
00:07:53.000There was a ramming incident involved.
00:07:55.000Let's go ahead and play this news report really quick, and I'm going to get your reaction to it.
00:08:44.000Over the course of the next couple of weeks, the Oversight Committee will be launching on their website a master ice tracker where we're going to be essentially tracking every single instance that we can verify that the community will send us information on.
00:09:01.000So this is putting a direct target on the backs of federal agents.
00:09:04.000It's endangering their lives, not to mention a clear obstruction of federal immigration law.
00:09:09.000This is why we've seen, what, a 600 to 1,000% increase in attacks on our federal law enforcement?
00:09:15.000They're doing it because you have politicians like this who are going out or Waltz, Tim Waltz saying, these guys are the Gestapo.
00:09:23.000No, they're doing the job that Congress actually lined out and said, this is why we want you to, these are the rules of being in our country.
00:09:30.000And if you come in the country illegally, we're going to remove you.
00:09:33.000And I think that the media and the politicians bear the responsibility for the violence that we're seeing against our federal law enforcement.
00:09:41.000And we need to start holding people accountable.
00:09:53.000This is shielding, harboring, and concealing anybody who you know to be in this country.
00:09:57.000They're provoking these conflicts with ICE agents all over the country.
00:10:03.000We're seeing this a lot in California where they have these roving bands of volunteers that just so happen to have legal representatives standing by in case something happens.
00:10:11.000And if they happen to provoke ICE agents, who, by the way, are on high alert because they're getting shot at, they're getting attacked.
00:10:17.000They're getting their cars rammed by the Latin kings and other groups that actually want them dead.
00:10:22.000And so then these volunteers go and try and track their movements, and they act surprised when there is a conflict that happens.
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00:10:46.000Now, here Charlie, in his own words, tell you about YReFi.
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00:12:04.000And the worst thing that could happen to this country is if the seat was open and then it got replaced by some rhino or some feckless wonder that nobody knew and nobody cared about.
00:12:13.000Instead, you are rising to the occasion.
00:12:15.000You know, we were talking about in the break that you are one of the few people anybody could think of with the name ID, the patriotism, the passion, the credibility on the most important hot-button topics, especially immigration.
00:12:26.000And so we're grateful to you that you're stepping to the plate.
00:12:29.000I know it's a sacrifice for your family.
00:12:46.000We need those people, those true patriots that are unapologetic for America, for God, for family, for having children, all the things that, you know, when I, at the memorial for Charlie, you know, when you guys did that event, just all the things that he talked about and the way he talked about it, he was never apologetic for it.
00:13:07.000He was a stalwart defender of the values that built this country.
00:13:11.000And I'm honored to be in a position to where I could go out and do the same thing.
00:13:16.000I want to be the representative for CD5.
00:13:20.000I want to go to Washington, D.C., and defend the people's constitutional rights, their freedom.
00:13:24.000I want to be unapologetic about God, family, and the things that make this country great.
00:13:29.000Well, and your family has been, I mean, has a connection.
00:13:32.000We talked about this, and I don't want to get too emotional here with all this, but we lost Charlie.
00:13:39.000I know you and your sweet wife, Janelle, went through the heartache of losing your son, Cooper, and just the connection that's there with all of that.
00:13:51.000And again, I don't mean to spring that on you, but.
00:13:54.000No, no, look, it's a big part of our life, and it's part of what drives us.
00:13:57.000You know, part of the reason why I ran for Senate was we lost my son, my granddaughter, my 22-year-old son, my 11-month-old granddaughter.
00:14:04.000My daughter-in-law died a few days later from somebody driving under the influence of drugs and alcohol.
00:14:09.000But what it reminded us is there is no guarantee for tomorrow.
00:14:13.000And that the only thing we do in this, the only thing we take with us is what we do in this life.
00:14:17.000And there's an old Danish saying that says that he who has the ability has the responsibility.
00:14:23.000And it's hard to walk away knowing you have the ability to come in and defend the values and the freedoms that this country was built on, to defend God, to defend all of what we believe as a family.
00:14:35.000And losing my son and my granddaughter really put all that into perspective.
00:14:38.000And my daughter-in-law put that into perspective for us.
00:14:41.000Losing Charlie put it into perspective for me again and made me realize now is the time.
00:14:47.000We are, like Esther says, you know, we're made for times like this.
00:14:50.000And so I know that's not exactly how she said it.
00:14:57.000And so I would be doing a disservice to my family, to my country, if I stood on the sidelines at this time.
00:15:06.000Well, and I know that speaks a lot to those that know you very, very closely and very personally.
00:15:10.000And people know you, I think, more broadly as the sheriff and the, you know, the big bad sheriff that's kind of representing conservative values against some of the negativity that we just talked about with the left just trying to just run over our nation with lawlessness and crime.
00:15:31.000But we just talked about that crime has personally affected all of us that are sitting here and in different ways.
00:15:40.000And so having somebody step up like yourself to fight with that, that I know that's deep down, you know, really imprinted on your soul, I think matters a whole lot for people to understand and know.
00:15:51.000I see you as the, I mean, I think a lot of America sees you as a strong man who's willing to fight the good fight to keep us safe, to stand up.
00:16:02.000You were standing in a gap during a lawless administration that was allowing our country to be invaded, and you were patrolling that border day in, day out, and you weren't just patrolling it.
00:16:11.000You were waving the alarm bells, trying to tell the country and the world of just how bad it had gotten.
00:16:17.000And a man that's willing to do that when there's nobody that has your six, nobody has your back, and you're willing to stand in the gap and do that.
00:16:23.000That speaks to your character and your courage.
00:16:25.000And that's what we're going to need, especially as our brave ICE agents are getting targeted like never before.
00:16:31.000We need more support and backup for this fight right now.
00:16:36.000And look, America's best days are ahead.
00:16:49.000And I hope that people realize and see that I'm a proven conservative fighter.
00:16:53.000And I would love to continue that fight and do it on a national level.
00:16:58.000We're going to do everything we can at this show and at Turning Point Action to have your back because you've had ours and you are a proven conservative fighter.
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00:18:26.000All right, Tyler, since this is the turning point action power hour, the patriotism hour, the grassroots hour, I'm throwing it over to you to welcome our friend Brandon in, who's back east right now.
00:18:39.000Yeah, we have an incredible team that spans across the country.
00:18:43.000As we mentioned, we're in every key target state, including in the Northeast and New Hampshire and Pennsylvania.
00:18:50.000And we have taken our team and we've been working in New Jersey.
00:18:54.000So Brandon Malley is our regional manager for our field operation, the biggest field operation within the conservative movement.
00:19:01.000And he is out in New Jersey right now, actually laying the groundwork, doing super chase events there.
00:19:38.000And as you've been laying the groundwork and preparing for our big Super Chase events out there.
00:19:43.000Well, I can say that the race is going to be extremely competitive.
00:19:47.000So many people have been fired up over the last month in Jersey.
00:19:52.000Was in South Jersey yesterday knocking on doors, getting a feel for just how close the race will be.
00:20:00.000And we even have people that were on the sidelines for the 2024 election, believe it or not, because they felt like New Jersey was uncompetitive that are going to be voting and they're going to be voting for Republican Jack Chitterelli.
00:20:14.000So we're going to channel a lot of that energy that we've seen come in over the last month in the conservative movement and bring our brand to the state so that we can activate low-prop reds to get out to vote.
00:20:29.000Yeah, so tell the audience a little bit about remind everyone.
00:20:34.000I know Charlie and I talked a lot about Super Chase events last year going into the election, but explain to the audience what a Super Chase event looks like and then the ones that we have coming up on November 2nd and 3rd.
00:20:48.000So basically a Super Chase event is where we take the energy on the ground for an election and get all of our activists together in a rally type of event.
00:21:04.000But then where we take it to the next level is that we mobilize everybody to action.
00:21:11.000We ask everyone to go out and knock on doors in the neighborhoods.
00:21:16.000And we hold these events in areas that have a lot of low propensity Republican voters, high concentrations.
00:21:26.000So this is really our mobilization effort.
00:21:29.000We combine rallying the troops with the Super Saturday model.
00:21:33.000We make it fun and exciting for everybody.
00:21:35.000And we target the low propensity subset of voters.
00:22:01.000If you're in a surrounding state, if you're in the New York metro area, if you're in the Philadelphia metropolitan area, if you are in Maryland, if you're in the DC area, it's a quick train or drive up to actually get involved and help win a state that's winnable.
00:22:18.000So if you are remote, say you're living in California right now, I mean, people don't realize California has the most registered Republicans, I think, of any state.
00:22:26.000Yeah, there's more Democrats in the state, so it's a very difficult state to win, but there's millions of them.
00:22:32.000If they want to get involved and they're not able to fly out, what would you recommend that they do?
00:22:35.000Yeah, I mean, you can actually download the Turning Point Action application.
00:22:39.000So if you search on the Google Play Store or the Apple App Store for turning point action, TP action or turning point action, you can download it.
00:24:29.000In 2021, they were off in the Democrats' direction in their favor by 5.2, which would mean if you apply the same standard to 2025, that means Jack Chitterelli wins the governorship.
00:24:48.000Yeah, well, and that one just had come out four hours ago.
00:24:50.000That's a brand new one from Rutgers Eagleton.
00:24:53.000So to your point, if they're off even remotely close, you know, Jack has a real chance of winning on election day, but it's all turnout on election day.
00:25:36.000Independents are breaking Chitterelli plus six.
00:25:40.000So, Tyler, that's a big insight there.
00:25:42.000Independents are breaking plus six for Chitterelli, 43 to 37.
00:25:48.000So GOP consolidation plus turnout trends mirror this trend.
00:25:52.000So we want to make sure that we get the get out the vote, folks.
00:25:55.000I'm curious, Brandon, I know we're mostly working with low-propensity conservatives, but are you seeing that trend with independents just anecdotally on the ground?
00:26:15.000We're going to see something closer to two-thirds of late-breaking undecided sco Jack's way.
00:26:22.000And these are people that may not have even voted for President Trump, but realize that New Jersey is broken fundamentally and something needs to change.
00:26:32.000So we're actually going into parts of the state, again, targeting the low props.
00:26:37.000The highest targeted areas in the state are going to be in Lakewood, New Jersey, and some townships in Burlington.
00:26:45.000So we think that could help make the difference in this race, just activating those people because the Chitterelli campaign has done a good job picking up the non-traditional GOP vote.
00:26:56.000Yeah, and you bring up something that's really important, Brandon.
00:27:01.000So Jack, in every commercial that he's putting out and he's talking about, is the extraordinary, high, extraordinarily high property taxes that exist in New Jersey.
00:27:14.000It's like almost impossible for a young person to live in New Jersey.
00:27:17.000Remember, we're seeing a shift where you're going from a heavy baby boomer state to a heavy millennial state because that's where the jobs are.
00:27:27.000The people who are employed that have to go into New York City, that have to go into Philadelphia, that have to maintain their local businesses, the blue collar, the muscular class that we talk about, they're all predominantly millennials now.
00:27:38.000And they can't afford to survive in New Jersey if it keeps going on the track that it's going because taxes have just continued to go up and up and up and up.
00:27:46.000And they've been high for a long time.
00:27:52.000I mean, obviously, if you're from there and you're born there and your family's there, there's a lot of great patriots in New Jersey, like really salted the earth people, but they've just been outnumbered for so long.
00:28:01.000This is their chance to really finally fight back and stop some of that.
00:28:05.000I mean, they had Chris Christie, but I don't want to get into that.
00:28:07.000But you guys have some Super Chase events scheduled, and we have a graphic here.
00:32:18.000If you're in the chair, it goes really fast.
00:32:20.000I mean, what was crazy is that Charlie would do this show and then he would, you know, talk about, or he would go lead Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action and go raise money.
00:32:30.000I mean, the guy was an absolute machine.
00:32:32.000But, you know, I think it's very fitting that we have you here today, Tyler, because that's right.
00:33:04.000And we don't just rely on wishes and prayers.
00:33:07.000We actually go do the work too to show who's on the Lord's side.
00:33:11.000So that's what I'm so proud of today, actually.
00:33:14.000We have so many people that are out in the field today for Turning Point Action doing the work in Arizona and New Jersey across the country on the app we mentioned.
00:33:23.000So I just want to say a huge thank you to our team because that's what matters the most.
00:33:26.000Well, a great birthday gift would be making sure Jack Chitterelli becomes the next governor of New Jersey.
00:33:40.000It's a little bit tougher state the way that that is lining up, but that AG's probably AG in that state's AG should be slammed up.
00:33:47.000It's way ahead now because of those Jay Jones nasty, nasty tweets or leaked text messages wishing violence upon his political enemy and his kids.
00:34:09.000And, you know, also, I just want to say, yes, there's some images of the great Mark Lamb.
00:34:14.000What you said about people that cannot make it and cannot fly, even if you're, you know, we have Canadians flying to Arizona last year during the election.
00:34:23.000You need to be able to get there, get there.
00:34:25.000But if you can't and you just absolutely can't for whatever reason, download the Turning Point Action app.
00:34:39.000The handwritten postcard telling people, again, your testimony of why it matters to vote, why it matters to get behind conservatives is so important.
00:34:49.000So, this is a revival we talked about at the hearts of Christians that are coming back to church, folks getting family.
00:34:57.000But this is patriotism because downstream from your culture of going back and turning back to your family, turning back to Christ is actually getting involved in the community and doing those things.
00:35:19.000You're seeing this resurgence, this revival of faith in the wake of Charlie's murder.
00:35:24.000And that has to translate into action.
00:35:27.000Faith without works is dead, as it tells us in scripture.
00:35:31.000And so we want to make sure that we're doing the actions, doing the works, and putting our faith into action.
00:35:36.000As Charlie would have said, the whole point of TPUSA Faith was that we should not cede the public square to the atheists and the communists and the pink-haired jihadis.
00:35:46.000We have to keep our foot on the gas and we have to make sure that we seize all of this momentum, all of this outflowing, outpouring of love and support for Charlie and his legacy and what his life meant and put that faith into action.
00:35:58.000And so that is our call and our charge to you in the audience today: get involved.
00:36:02.000This show was forged on grassroots activism and patriotism.
00:36:09.000It will remain about the grassroots and the muscular class and the everyday working men and women in this country that make it work, that love it, that believe in church bells, not Muslim calls to prayer, that believe in putting patriots in office where they can make a difference.