The Charlie Kirk Show - I'm Engaged!

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, happy Sunday, a very special episode where you get to meet my fiancé.

00:00:05.000 I recently got engaged and we go through the story of that and so much more.

00:00:09.000 You guys can check out Erica's amazing fashion line, proclaimstreetwear.com.

00:00:16.000 I encourage all of you like me to go maybe place an order for a sweater or a t-shirt because there's an amazing give back factor and you guys will learn all about that.

00:00:25.000 I'm engaged.

00:00:26.000 Here's the story.

00:00:27.000 Buckle up.

00:00:28.000 Here we go.

00:00:28.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

00:00:30.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.

00:00:32.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

00:00:36.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House.

00:00:39.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:00:40.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:00:41.000 His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.

00:00:49.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.

00:00:58.000 That's why we are here.

00:01:02.000 Welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:01:02.000 Hey, everybody.

00:01:05.000 Hello.

00:01:06.000 Hello.

00:01:07.000 I'm saying hello to my fiancé.

00:01:10.000 And we are super thrilled to do this episode.

00:01:12.000 We've had a lot of people ask us about this episode to do something together sitting down.

00:01:16.000 World Meet Erica Francfe, who has an amazing podcast, Midweek Rise Up, and an incredible, let's say, fashion line that we're both wearing called Proclaim Streetwear.

00:01:30.000 We'll get into that.

00:01:31.000 But first, it's awesome to have you on.

00:01:34.000 Thank you for having me.

00:01:35.000 I'm a longtime listener.

00:01:37.000 So a lot of people have emailed us and they've asked us to do this and some pretty big news that we had last week.

00:01:46.000 And I just thought this would be fun.

00:01:48.000 I'm here for all of it.

00:01:50.000 Here for all of it.

00:01:51.000 So we've been together for two years.

00:01:53.000 And we met through a family friend.

00:01:55.000 Should we go through the whole story?

00:01:56.000 Why don't you tell the story?

00:01:57.000 Do you want to give the spark notes version or do you want to give...

00:01:59.000 We'll do the long form podcast version.

00:02:01.000 Long form podcast version.

00:02:03.000 Okay.

00:02:04.000 So you started Turning Point in 2012, right?

00:02:09.000 So Trump's first rally in Arizona was when.

00:02:12.000 And it was...

00:02:13.000 It was the summer of 15.

00:02:14.000 Summer of 15.

00:02:15.000 So I went with my mom.

00:02:17.000 I was a Trump fan.

00:02:18.000 To a Trump rally.

00:02:19.000 To a Trump rally.

00:02:20.000 His first one.

00:02:22.000 And Tyler was there.

00:02:24.000 Tyler Boyer.

00:02:25.000 Yes, he was there with his wife, his beautiful wife, and his kids.

00:02:28.000 And he came up to me afterwards and he was like, hey, we're starting this, or we have this organization and we're starting it in Arizona.

00:02:35.000 Would love for you to be a part of it.

00:02:37.000 And it was one of those things where everything he said sounded super exciting, but I was getting ready to move to New York.

00:02:43.000 And that was a season of life that I really prayed on and prayed about.

00:02:46.000 And it was something that I needed to move on towards.

00:02:48.000 And so I said, thank you for all the information, but I am moving to Manhattan.

00:02:54.000 And I was like, stay in touch.

00:02:55.000 And we didn't really stay in touch all that much.

00:02:57.000 And then I went to Israel.

00:03:00.000 And what year was that?

00:03:02.000 That was 2018.

00:03:04.000 2018.

00:03:05.000 That was May of 2018.

00:03:06.000 And that was the embassy opening.

00:03:07.000 So I happened to be there in Israel too.

00:03:10.000 And so I was on a pilgrimage with my mom in Israel.

00:03:14.000 And it was our last day.

00:03:16.000 And we were standing in the ticket line.

00:03:19.000 And I remember just trying to deal with pulling together all of the documents and stuff at the ticket counter.

00:03:25.000 And I turned around and I saw someone who looked super familiar, but I've never talked to them or met them before.

00:03:34.000 And I looked at him and I was like, turned over to my mom and I was like, he looks really familiar and didn't say anything.

00:03:43.000 And then came back home and got a message from Tyler from who I had met at the Trump rally.

00:03:49.000 And he was saying, hey, you should come to Turning Point's office.

00:03:52.000 We're having an office opening.

00:03:54.000 We'd like to discuss with you about everything that we're doing with the faith component side of things.

00:04:00.000 And yeah, we met at the office very briefly.

00:04:04.000 And that was you that was standing in line in Israel.

00:04:07.000 And then we went to Bill's Burgers in New York.

00:04:09.000 Best Burgers.

00:04:10.000 Oh, my gosh.

00:04:11.000 So then, do you want to tell that part?

00:04:13.000 You can tell it.

00:04:14.000 They hear enough of me.

00:04:16.000 All they hear is me.

00:04:17.000 Okay, so we get to Bill's Burgers, and I'm there thinking it's a business interview.

00:04:24.000 It started that way.

00:04:25.000 So we sit down, and you grill me for what, three hours?

00:04:25.000 Right.

00:04:29.000 Yeah.

00:04:30.000 Easily on philosophy, politics, religion, culture, economics, what else?

00:04:37.000 Everything else you can imagine, he grilled me.

00:04:39.000 Anything he talks about on his podcast show, he grilled me on, pretty much.

00:04:43.000 Just didn't record it.

00:04:45.000 And then afterwards, he got finished with his burger and he just sat there and he looked at me and he's like, you know what?

00:04:53.000 I'm not going to hire you.

00:04:55.000 And I was like, that's fine.

00:04:56.000 I don't need this job.

00:04:59.000 I'm doing plenty of other things here in Manhattan.

00:05:01.000 He's like, I'm going to date you.

00:05:03.000 And you want to take it from there.

00:05:06.000 And you said you were kind of confused.

00:05:09.000 Of course I was confused.

00:05:12.000 Now, I was somewhat blunt.

00:05:15.000 And how did that make you feel?

00:05:18.000 When I was that blunt.

00:05:19.000 And I ask because people are trying to obviously compare this to their own life.

00:05:24.000 So what, how do I put this?

00:05:28.000 I think we live in a day and age where dating is looked at as just this, let's go out for drinks or let's go out for coffee.

00:05:38.000 Let's get to know each other.

00:05:39.000 Let's, you know, take it at the slow.

00:05:41.000 And God knew I needed someone who was so assertive that was going to be like, no, this is what I want.

00:05:47.000 We're going to pursue this dating very seriously and go from there.

00:05:51.000 And so I think I was taken back by the fact that you were assertive and you knew what you wanted.

00:05:57.000 But at the same time, it was something that I didn't even know I needed.

00:06:01.000 And I was like, you know what?

00:06:02.000 This is, he's, he's the guy.

00:06:04.000 And I remember trying to process it on the walk home because I literally had to walk from Bill's Burgers.

00:06:10.000 What is that?

00:06:11.000 52nd?

00:06:12.000 Near Rockefeller Center.

00:06:13.000 All the way back to 30th and Madison, just trying to like process.

00:06:13.000 Right.

00:06:16.000 New York was the city.

00:06:19.000 Oh, and home for me.

00:06:20.000 And I remember calling my mom and she was like, did you get the job?

00:06:23.000 And I was like, no, but I got a boyfriend.

00:06:26.000 And I tell this to young men all the time.

00:06:28.000 I say, you must be very direct because these young men, they wrap a tap dance around the issue and they are never actually, I should say never, but far too often. 0.97

00:06:39.000 Yeah, I mean, don't be so direct where you are just a jerk, but you can be assertive to the point where you're like, look, I don't want to hurt your feelings. 0.97

00:06:48.000 I don't want to get my feelings hurt. 0.98

00:06:49.000 I'm really serious about this and I would like to pursue you in a very intentional manner.

00:06:55.000 So we've had two great years.

00:06:57.000 We have had two great years.

00:06:58.000 Done a lot of crazy things.

00:07:00.000 Traveled all over.

00:07:01.000 Israel, London, Vienna.

00:07:06.000 Oh, my gosh.

00:07:06.000 Yeah.

00:07:08.000 And then, of course, all over the country.

00:07:11.000 And the election, which has been something.

00:07:13.000 And so you've been working very hard on what we're wearing, your sweatshirt.

00:07:18.000 Yeah.

00:07:19.000 Proclaim street wear.

00:07:21.000 So tell everybody about that.

00:07:23.000 Right.

00:07:24.000 So I started it, yeah, I guess two and a half, three years ago.

00:07:28.000 So this is the relaunch of it.

00:07:30.000 But back in August of 2016, I was coming home from Boston from New York, and I had a friend send me this video.

00:07:39.000 I don't know, did you ever see it?

00:07:40.000 It's the video on YouTube where this guy, this homeless guy, is sitting on the subway freezing, and someone else on the subway sees him and puts, walks over.

00:07:50.000 Walks over to him, puts on him, the freezing man, his sweatshirt and his t-shirt, and clothes him and has zero dialogue with the homeless man.

00:07:58.000 And to me, it just showed how powerful it is, how your actions speak more than your words.

00:08:06.000 And so for me, I was in and out of sleep on that train, and Isaiah 61 kept being talked about in my dream.

00:08:14.000 And so when I woke up, I read Isaiah 61, and it was just beautiful.

00:08:19.000 It was so powerful.

00:08:21.000 And like most times, when you read scripture, you're like, this is beautiful.

00:08:25.000 I'll, you know, live it out.

00:08:27.000 But what am I?

00:08:28.000 You know, I'll go about my day.

00:08:30.000 So then it wasn't until my grandfather had passed away in October of that year that I came across really the mission and purpose of Proclaim Streetwear.

00:08:40.000 And I love my grandparents.

00:08:41.000 You know that both of us do.

00:08:43.000 We've always had a soft spot in our heart for our grandparents.

00:08:46.000 And so when he passed away to cope with that, he passed away at 3.11 p.m.

00:08:51.000 And I went through every single Bible verse of chapter 3, verse 11 and came across Luke chapter 3, verse 11 that says, if you have two shirts, give the second one away to someone in need.

00:09:04.000 And that's a paraphrase, but long story short, I started to pay attention more to the unnoticed in the city of Manhattan.

00:09:14.000 And all these people in the streets during the colder seasons who didn't have really anything.

00:09:21.000 I mean, they had a t-shirt or, you know, a blanket or a comforter to keep them warm, but a lot of them are just on the streets freezing.

00:09:28.000 And I remember even just taking pictures on my phone to just remind me of either where they were on the cross street so I could bring them something if I passed them again, or just to be able to use that as fuel and as a drive to continue to push towards getting Proclaim going.

00:09:44.000 And so I was like, this is the mission.

00:09:48.000 Isaiah 61 and Luke 3.11 blended together.

00:09:51.000 So that's Proclaim Streetwear.

00:09:52.000 And it's purpose-driven.

00:09:55.000 So every item has a certain give-back component attached to it.

00:09:58.000 So you're wearing the sweatshirt.

00:09:59.000 And the sweatshirt.

00:10:00.000 It's very nice.

00:10:01.000 Yeah.

00:10:01.000 It's amazing.

00:10:02.000 It's all made in America.

00:10:03.000 That's the one thing I would not compromise on is the fact that people told you not to.

00:10:08.000 I had mentors in the fashion industry that said America.

00:10:08.000 They did.

00:10:13.000 That's what they said.

00:10:15.000 Yeah. 0.78

00:10:17.000 I don't think really anything good comes out of Muvon. 1.00

00:10:20.000 But they said go make it in China. 1.00

00:10:21.000 They did. 0.99

00:10:22.000 This is made in America.

00:10:23.000 So it's made in LA, and then our other items are made in Manhattan.

00:10:28.000 So, but everything, that's something I just would not compromise on, was making it in the States.

00:10:34.000 I believe you invest in what you believe in.

00:10:37.000 And to me, that's the American seamstress, the American worker, the American mill and fabric owner.

00:10:44.000 And you could tell just from the quality, it's much higher than that nonsense we import from like Gilden and all the blankets.

00:10:51.000 The textile stuff.

00:10:52.000 So it's all ethically sourced, sustainably made.

00:10:55.000 Bamboo.

00:10:56.000 So, no, that's not the t-shirts or bamboo.

00:10:58.000 So each item is purpose-driven.

00:11:00.000 So for the sweatshirts, when you purchase a sweatshirt, you're given the option of accepting the second sweatshirt as a gift and you taking it upon yourself to go gift it to someone in need on the streets during the winter season, someone who's cold that you see needs something or someone that you feel like you can interact with.

00:11:18.000 And it's up to you to proclaim to them whatever God has placed in your heart, whether that's anything about Jesus, whether that's anything about scripture.

00:11:27.000 But we are a Christian clothing line, and that's something that we are unapologetically very proud of.

00:11:32.000 And so if you decide not to pass out your second sweatshirt, the Proclaim Street team does it for you.

00:11:38.000 And we had several outings in Manhattan over the past few years prior to COVID.

00:11:43.000 And it was so powerful to witness just everyone out there handing out the sweatshirts and being able to talk to people.

00:11:50.000 So, yeah.

00:11:50.000 And it's proclaimestreetwear.com.

00:11:53.000 That's where people can go.

00:11:55.000 So you've had a great launch.

00:11:55.000 Yeah.

00:11:57.000 The launch has been unbelievable.

00:11:58.000 And that's all glory to God.

00:12:00.000 But like you, we've talked about this all the time.

00:12:03.000 We don't believe in having our faiths just be in certain boxes.

00:12:07.000 Like we really want to be able to live out our faith boldly.

00:12:11.000 And, you know, especially when it comes to culture, you can't transform culture without Christ.

00:12:16.000 So everyone should check out ProclaimStreetwear.com.

00:12:19.000 You also, you're getting your doctorate from Liberty.

00:12:21.000 I am.

00:12:22.000 You already have your Juris Master.

00:12:24.000 I have all the college degrees, so you never have to go to school.

00:12:26.000 You have them all for me.

00:12:28.000 We're a team.

00:12:28.000 I do.

00:12:29.000 Same team.

00:12:30.000 You were Miss Arizona.

00:12:31.000 I sometimes leave that off my resume, but I include it.

00:12:34.000 Thank you.

00:12:35.000 So a lot of young people say, what advice do you have for dating and relationships?

00:12:41.000 There's a lot of different ways we can go that way.

00:12:43.000 But what's on your heart with that?

00:12:46.000 Gosh.

00:12:49.000 I think a lot of people get frustrated with the season of waiting.

00:12:52.000 And I think that's something so powerful to be able to be in that season of really letting God mold your heart and mold you into the man or woman that he needs you to be for your spouse.

00:13:04.000 And sometimes we rush that, but I think seasons are so important.

00:13:07.000 And every second that you live your life is connected to a season, but a season is not your whole lifetime period.

00:13:14.000 And I think that having just that intentional time with God to be able to just stay focused in the word, to literally pursue what he has placed on your heart, he knows who you're supposed to be with.

00:13:29.000 And I think when we get, when we rush that and we put our faith in algorithms like Bumble and what are the other ones?

00:13:35.000 I know I've never been on an earth before, Tinder, all those apps, you are just constantly swiping.

00:13:41.000 And I saw that whole hookup culture in New York because I've had friends that lived it.

00:13:46.000 And it's exhausting.

00:13:47.000 And I feel bad for people who go on these dates and then they're so excited.

00:13:52.000 They get fully invested into someone and then they totally get ghosted.

00:13:56.000 And it's heartbreaking.

00:13:57.000 And it makes people question: okay, am I not the right person?

00:14:01.000 Do I need to change myself?

00:14:02.000 Do I need to say things differently?

00:14:04.000 So it's just, it's one of those things where I think having that waiting period of, you know, I guess, I guess you could say fueling yourself with things that make you a better person and focusing on doing things for the kingdom.

00:14:21.000 And you just keep running your race and running your path, and God will line up someone next to you that's running alongside of you, not someone who's going to take you off track, but someone who keeps you focused on him and doesn't detract your attention from that.

00:14:34.000 Young men ask me all the time, they say, well, how do I find somebody?

00:14:37.000 How do I find somebody?

00:14:39.000 And how do I find a Christian, you know, woman?

00:14:42.000 And young ladies ask the same thing to you and to us.

00:14:47.000 And I think patience is a great answer.

00:14:50.000 But also, you have to prepare yourself as if the next conversation you might have might be the person.

00:14:58.000 Are you the person that you actually think is the most likely to be someone worthy of being attracted to?

00:15:06.000 Right.

00:15:07.000 And so I think that they're young men almost feel entitled to a relationship at times.

00:15:13.000 And I could speak at least from the younger people.

00:15:15.000 What do you mean by like entitled to I would say that a lot of young men don't have their life together.

00:15:21.000 They don't have they are lacking responsibility in their life.

00:15:27.000 They're lacking direction. 1.00

00:15:29.000 And I think a lot of young women, they don't necessarily need an Instagram model.

00:15:34.000 They want someone who is willing to take responsibility for difficulty and to go through Uncertainty and the unknown and to tell the truth and to be committed to those ideals.

00:15:48.000 Right.

00:15:48.000 Where I think there is a culture that's been created of young men that basically are afraid of responsibility and they just want the gratification without it.

00:16:00.000 And then there's another whole segment of women that basically, because of the hyper-feminization of everything, become almost the male figure in the relationship.

00:16:12.000 I think that's very dangerous.

00:16:13.000 Well, and I, I'm a strong female, and you know that, but I also, and I, and I have full respect for other alpha females out there, but there is a time and a place to be an alpha female.

00:16:25.000 And when you're in a relationship, you are not in competition with your other half and you're not in competition with them from the standpoint of who's in charge. 0.97

00:16:36.000 So, how do you talk to boss babes out there? 0.95

00:16:38.000 Like, I'm never going to be able to find a man.

00:16:41.000 They need to, first of all, humility is huge in that standpoint. 1.00

00:16:44.000 But second of all, the whole boss babe culture is so toxic. 1.00

00:16:48.000 It's so toxic. 1.00

00:16:49.000 And it even talks about in scripture how two oxen can carry a heavier load.

00:16:53.000 You cannot do it all by yourself.

00:16:55.000 And for women out there who think they don't need a man or don't think they need someone to help them pursue further in life or to have a more complete fulfillment of themselves, it's just, it's, I have seen it firsthand living in Manhattan where women who are in their late 30s, early 40s, their life was their career.

00:17:19.000 And there's nothing wrong with that because my mom was a career-oriented woman and career-oriented mom.

00:17:26.000 But you sacrifice a lot of things.

00:17:29.000 And then by the time you're in your 40s, you're bitter, you're frustrated, you feel like you missed out, and you feel like you are behind the curve.

00:17:38.000 And then you're just, you just are, you know, tainted. 0.99

00:17:42.000 But from a boss babe culture, it forces women to feel like they all need to be entrepreneurs. 1.00

00:17:50.000 And they're not. 0.87

00:17:51.000 Not everyone is meant to be an entrepreneur.

00:17:53.000 We all have a specific role. 1.00

00:17:55.000 But that's why I think so many women get frustrated as they look on social media and they're like, oh, this person has their own business. 1.00

00:18:02.000 Right. 1.00

00:18:03.000 Or they're selling shampoo or they're a multi-level marketing genius or whatever.

00:18:08.000 But it's one of those things where God, our God is a God of order.

00:18:12.000 And there's a reason why there is a husband and a wife.

00:18:15.000 And there's a reason why there's a family.

00:18:16.000 And there's a reason why there's certain things you're supposed to do beforehand before you get married.

00:18:20.000 And there are things that you're not supposed to do before you get married, which is saved for marriage itself.

00:18:26.000 And I think that goes for dating too.

00:18:28.000 You're not supposed to treat your boyfriend or your girlfriend like your fiancé or like your husband.

00:18:34.000 You set boundaries and you really are able to then say, okay, he is in charge of XYZ in our relationship.

00:18:42.000 I am in charge of the other side of that. 0.98

00:18:44.000 And I know that a lot of women who are strong, they're very strong personality females.

00:18:50.000 You have to also give your other half, your counterpart, your male companion, the respect they deserve.

00:19:00.000 And I think men have to be worthy of that respect.

00:19:02.000 They do, absolutely.

00:19:03.000 And it feeds into itself. 0.99

00:19:04.000 So women say, you're not worthy of my respect.

00:19:06.000 I'm going to become the man. 1.00

00:19:07.000 So you have these hyper-masculine women in their early 30s that are quite honestly miserable. 1.00

00:19:12.000 But it is relationships. 1.00

00:19:13.000 Right.

00:19:13.000 But it doesn't start like that.

00:19:14.000 I feel like women just, they keep tapping away until the guy completely breaks down and he's like, look, you do whatever you want to do. 1.00

00:19:21.000 They just disengage. 1.00

00:19:22.000 Or they become a feminine man. 1.00

00:19:24.000 Right. 1.00

00:19:24.000 New York is full of them. 1.00

00:19:25.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:19:26.000 It's of these men that kind of take a backseat role to a much more boss babe type woman. 0.99

00:19:34.000 I just don't think that works. 0.97

00:19:36.000 I mean, obviously I don't either, considering who I'm dating. 0.97

00:19:40.000 However, that doesn't mean that doesn't mean women can't succeed and flourish. 0.99

00:19:47.000 No, invest in.

00:19:48.000 I think it's very important that women are, that women have their own, whether that's a career or they're invested in something or they're invested in something outside of the household, whether that's volunteering your time, whether that's having your own company, whether that's homeschooling your kids.

00:20:04.000 I think we all have our own lane and position to play within the relationship.

00:20:10.000 What bothers you the most when you look at, you kind of touched on this, but the dating landscape when you look at it.

00:20:18.000 So for me, I just hate wasting time.

00:20:21.000 That's my biggest thing.

00:20:22.000 I never had short relationships.

00:20:24.000 My relationships were always either they were more, they were longer.

00:20:28.000 But for me, it's one of those things where I'm not going to waste my time just going out to dinner just for a free dinner.

00:20:36.000 I think that's so tacky.

00:20:37.000 I think it's tacky that you are stringing someone along because you're afraid of being alone.

00:20:45.000 It just never resonated with me.

00:20:48.000 And I just knew that there was no reason for me to compromise.

00:20:54.000 And the thing that drives me nuts too is when you ask someone who they're looking, who are they dating or who they're wanting to marry, they have this list.

00:21:04.000 I don't know if you had a list.

00:21:06.000 I didn't have a list, but like I know some people who have a list that is easily 30 items long.

00:21:12.000 Like they're building a teddy bear.

00:21:13.000 A hundred percent.

00:21:14.000 Build a bear.

00:21:15.000 Right. 1.00

00:21:16.000 They need to be six foot five. 1.00

00:21:19.000 They need to be XYZ. 1.00

00:21:21.000 They need to, right?

00:21:22.000 Like all these things.

00:21:23.000 And you just, you literally are looking at them like, are you trying to create a Sims player?

00:21:28.000 Like there's no way you're going to be able to.

00:21:30.000 See, there's certain things you need to compromise on and be realistic with.

00:21:34.000 And God has prepared for you someone who is amazing and someone who is worthy of your heart and your love.

00:21:45.000 And why would you want to forfeit that?

00:21:49.000 Yeah.

00:21:50.000 There's people that are emailing us a lot and they say, you know, I have given up all hope.

00:21:57.000 I'm never going to find anyone.

00:21:59.000 What can I possibly do?

00:22:02.000 And again, I think that before looking outward and getting bitter, you should look inward and try and say, how am I going to prove myself worthy of actually wanting to be with somebody? 1.00

00:22:12.000 At least that's on the male side.

00:22:13.000 I don't think that, I don't know if it's necessarily well.

00:22:16.000 And how would you recommend them looking inward?

00:22:19.000 Yeah.

00:22:20.000 Stop doing addictive things that make you less likely to be productive.

00:22:27.000 Okay.

00:22:27.000 So chemically addictive, obviously substances.

00:22:32.000 And for men, I think it's a different issue because the young men have been beat down so much.

00:22:41.000 And I think that women are being pushed in a position that they're not actually always comfortable with.

00:22:45.000 I think there's some young ladies that literally just, I don't want to say literally just, but they want to become a mother and a wife, but they feel that's not the right thing to do at age 24, 25.

00:22:55.000 Why not?

00:22:56.000 That's okay.

00:22:57.000 And why have to go work at some awful company in San Francisco for a couple of years?

00:23:02.000 Why?

00:23:03.000 And then they start to realize that it's actually a lot harder to find somebody worthwhile to go build a family or go do it.

00:23:10.000 Well, and in those cities, especially, that's the hardest thing.

00:23:12.000 It's like in those types of cities, it's not like you can just run into someone.

00:23:16.000 So a lot of those people that do go to those big cities hope to find someone in the church.

00:23:20.000 And that's where it gets kind of messy because when you go to a Bible study that's co-ed and people are single, everyone's just like sniffing each other.

00:23:29.000 Like, are you single?

00:23:30.000 Are you single?

00:23:31.000 Will you go, you want to go get coffee?

00:23:33.000 And it's just that weird tiptoeing around.

00:23:35.000 It's really not a Bible study.

00:23:37.000 No, not at all, which is unfortunate.

00:23:40.000 But, and that's for a whole nother topic at another time.

00:23:43.000 But I think there becomes almost this desperation of I'm running out of time.

00:23:49.000 And I think people forget that God is the author of time and he knows exactly when you need to find that person and when you need to settle down and where you need to be.

00:23:57.000 And I think that for me, that's one of the most precious things is having that relationship with Christ, knowing, okay, where am I supposed to be at this time?

00:24:04.000 Where am I supposed to be living?

00:24:06.000 You know, what am I supposed to be doing to further the kingdom and really being vulnerable and open to making sure that you stay within the confines of God's will and living a life that's glorifying to him?

00:24:19.000 We're super excited.

00:24:21.000 And this is a very exciting chapter, despite all the nonsense happening in the country and the world.

00:24:27.000 What is the one question that you're annoyed of getting?

00:24:31.000 Well, when is the wedding?

00:24:32.000 That drives me nuts.

00:24:34.000 I mean, we just got engaged.

00:24:35.000 We just got engaged.

00:24:37.000 I can't go to Wendy's, let alone hosting.

00:24:40.000 We don't even know what time we're leaving the office, let alone.

00:24:44.000 How am I supposed to host a wedding?

00:24:46.000 I can't have eight people over for Thanksgiving.

00:24:50.000 Plus, I'm not a huge wedding person.

00:24:52.000 I mean, I am, but I'm not. 1.00

00:24:54.000 I'm not using for women usually to be around the world. 1.00

00:24:57.000 I've been planning a wedding since they were five. 1.00

00:24:59.000 That's not me.

00:25:00.000 Yeah.

00:25:01.000 So that, that, that question.

00:25:02.000 That question.

00:25:03.000 I mean, and then it's just timeline.

00:25:04.000 It's just kind of timeline, yeah.

00:25:06.000 But figuring it all out.

00:25:08.000 I think for me, it's people saying, like, let me see the ring.

00:25:11.000 Yeah.

00:25:12.000 Drives me nuts.

00:25:13.000 That's definitely a common question. 0.99

00:25:14.000 It's so, and I get it, and I respect it because there's a lot of people who are excited about seeing, you know, but to me, it was always so tacky when girls would take a photo. 0.90

00:25:26.000 I'm so excited and engaged. 0.82

00:25:28.000 With their hand in front of their face.

00:25:30.000 Right.

00:25:32.000 Or they'll put their hand out.

00:25:34.000 And it's just the picture of their hand.

00:25:36.000 Right.

00:25:36.000 And then the man is blurred in the background.

00:25:38.000 We talk about like disenfranchised men. 0.95

00:25:41.000 But no.

00:25:42.000 I'm so sad.

00:25:42.000 I'm engaged.

00:25:43.000 Just look at this.

00:25:44.000 Look at it.

00:25:45.000 Look at it again.

00:25:47.000 Keep looking.

00:25:48.000 I know.

00:25:48.000 Jeez.

00:25:49.000 Oh, my God. 1.00

00:25:50.000 Burn your retinas. 0.99

00:25:51.000 But no, it's one of those things where it just, I don't find. 0.99

00:25:56.000 I look, the most important thing to me out of all of this is that this is a covenant that you and I are making with God.

00:26:03.000 And that is where I want the focus to remain.

00:26:06.000 Whether that's with us or everyone else that sees us from the outside, it's not, you could have literally have gotten me a piece of thread.

00:26:15.000 String.

00:26:16.000 A ring pop.

00:26:16.000 Yes.

00:26:17.000 But that's that's advice to men: don't go cheap on the ring.

00:26:21.000 That's true.

00:26:22.000 It has to, you have to be invested.

00:26:24.000 What is the statistic?

00:26:26.000 It's what do they say?

00:26:27.000 The percentage of your supposed salary.

00:26:30.000 One month's salary.

00:26:31.000 I think that's right.

00:26:32.000 Yeah.

00:26:34.000 I don't know.

00:26:36.000 This was fun.

00:26:38.000 I'm so proud of you.

00:26:40.000 Oh, thank you.

00:26:41.000 I really am.

00:26:41.000 You're doing great with your show.

00:26:43.000 And congratulations on your radio show, too.

00:26:45.000 I still have a fan.

00:26:46.000 I am a huge fan, huge supporter.

00:26:49.000 People can check out your podcast, Midweek Rise Up.

00:26:53.000 Proclaim Streetwear.

00:26:55.000 And for men out there that are like, should I ask her?

00:26:58.000 Yes, you should.

00:26:58.000 Should I not?

00:27:00.000 Pray on it first.

00:27:01.000 Of course.

00:27:02.000 And if you have a piece, no, but if you have a piece about it, then that's good.

00:27:06.000 And if you're nervous for the engagement, that's okay.

00:27:08.000 Just make sure you're nervous about.

00:27:13.000 If you're nervous after the engagement, you got real.

00:27:15.000 Then there's something wrong.

00:27:16.000 Yeah.

00:27:16.000 I can tell you.

00:27:17.000 If you're nervous after the engagement, you got to disengage.

00:27:20.000 Right.

00:27:21.000 But if you're relieved after the engagement, then you're doing the right thing.

00:27:25.000 Because it's a big deal.

00:27:25.000 And you're good.

00:27:26.000 And you want the logistics to go right.

00:27:28.000 And I surprised you.

00:27:30.000 You did surprise me.

00:27:31.000 We should tell that story real quick.

00:27:33.000 So we were here at the studio shooting before the Proclaim Streetwear relaunch, and you scheduled with the photographer.

00:27:33.000 Okay.

00:27:41.000 You coordinated behind my back.

00:27:42.000 I had no idea that you were doing this.

00:27:44.000 And after the, it was a total coup, but I loved every second of it.

00:27:48.000 And after the final model left, we were, I think you came up to me beforehand and you were like, we should take Christmas photos together.

00:27:56.000 It should have been your first warning sign.

00:28:00.000 When have I ever done it?

00:28:00.000 When do we ever want to take?

00:28:03.000 And so you dressed really nice for that.

00:28:07.000 And so I brought a dress too to make it look good for Christmas photos.

00:28:11.000 And you told me many moons earlier that you said you wanted to make sure you had good pictures of the engagement.

00:28:18.000 Well, you asked me what would you, how would you want to be proposed to?

00:28:21.000 I said, I don't know how I want to be proposed to, but I know what I don't want.

00:28:24.000 And I don't want you to propose to me.

00:28:25.000 And then I have to go into a room full of people.

00:28:29.000 You didn't want a restaurant.

00:28:30.000 You didn't want a public place.

00:28:30.000 You didn't want your family there.

00:28:32.000 No, because then afterwards, you're like, everyone's, oh my gosh, I'm so excited.

00:28:36.000 And you can't even process the enormity.

00:28:38.000 It was so beautiful.

00:28:40.000 And you did it so well.

00:28:41.000 It was so intimate.

00:28:42.000 I loved it.

00:28:42.000 The pictures came out great.

00:28:44.000 I was super surprised.

00:28:46.000 Yeah, I know.

00:28:47.000 But for young people out there, if you want to find meaning, find something worth taking responsibility for.

00:28:55.000 Yeah.

00:28:56.000 Yeah.

00:28:56.000 So, but it's been a fun journey, fun right on.

00:28:59.000 Just getting started.

00:29:00.000 Yeah.

00:29:01.000 Grateful for you.

00:29:02.000 Thanks for joining the Charlie Kirk show.

00:29:05.000 You're welcome.

00:29:05.000 We should do this more often.

00:29:07.000 All right.

00:29:07.000 Any last words?

00:29:08.000 Well, I'm not walking the plank.

00:29:14.000 So you have no final words for your listeners as a cap off.

00:29:19.000 Thank you guys for listening, and please support Erica's fashion line.

00:29:23.000 That's sweet.

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00:29:26.000 See, they liked that.

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00:29:29.000 And subscribe to the Charlie Kirk show.

00:29:30.000 That would help.

00:29:31.000 Let us beat the New York Times.

00:29:33.000 You know all of it.

00:29:34.000 I know all of it.

00:29:35.000 Let us beat the New York Times.

00:29:37.000 We're rising in the charts.

00:29:38.000 We're surging in the charts.

00:29:39.000 We're surging in the charts.

00:29:41.000 And here we go.

00:29:46.000 See?

00:29:46.000 She knows all of it.

00:29:48.000 I love you.

00:29:48.000 I love you too, baby.

00:29:49.000 Thank you guys.

00:29:50.000 God bless.

00:29:54.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:29:56.000 Again, it's proclaimstreetwear.com to support E and what she is doing.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - December 13, 2020

I'm Engaged!

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