The Charlie Kirk Show - June 05, 2024


Is Covid a Bioweapon? And If So, Who Made It?


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00:00:01.000 Dr. Richard Fleming, was COVID a bioweapon?
00:00:05.000 What about the vaccine, Dr. Fauci, and why has science changed so much?
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00:02:54.000 A terrific guest this hour, all about Fauci and a new book, Are We the Next Endangered Species by Dr. Richard M. Fleming.
00:03:03.000 Dr. Fleming, welcome to the program.
00:03:05.000 Thank you.
00:03:05.000 It's a pleasure to be here.
00:03:06.000 Thank you for the invitation.
00:03:07.000 Of course, lots to discuss.
00:03:09.000 First, I want to talk about your book, Are We the Next Endangered Species?
00:03:13.000 Bioweapons, Eugenics, and More.
00:03:15.000 Tell us about it.
00:03:16.000 So, a lot of what's happened in the last four years requires a lot more information than people are typically getting.
00:03:23.000 And I wanted to walk people through what's happened in the United States and around the world since 1850 to put all the pieces into place so that you can understand how we got here.
00:03:34.000 The two parallel pathways of both biological weapons and eugenics programs that the United States and England spearheaded, but the United States is primarily responsible for.
00:03:45.000 And it has led to everything that's happened in the last four years.
00:03:49.000 So, yeah, tell us more about it.
00:03:50.000 I mean, you say here that key revelations include the stealthy usurpation of power in the United States since the 191850s.
00:03:58.000 Tell us about it.
00:03:59.000 Right.
00:03:59.000 So beginning at that time when everybody thought slavery was being done away with and that was the focus, what was really happening was a group of individuals who had a step were establishing a eugenics program.
00:04:12.000 So there may not be slavery, but they wanted to determine who was and who was not worthy of being here and what types of actions could be taken to prevent these people from coming to the country, to prevent people in the country from being able to have children, and to essentially make decisions about who would live and who died.
00:04:30.000 Adolf Hitler got much of his ideas and in fact made a lot of it required reading for the Hitler youth based upon what was being done in the United States.
00:04:40.000 The Loughlin report that was a congressional report that was filed even talked about using gas chambers to do away with these people and Supreme Court cases actually forced sterilized people that they considered undesirable.
00:04:53.000 So a crux for pushing forward to what the perfect human should be, what they should look like, and the type of environment they should be in.
00:05:03.000 We also have the formation of the American Medical Association beginning with a group of people that really just clustered together and decided they would call themselves the American Medical Association, which represents fewer than one in four doctors in the United States.
00:05:18.000 I'm not a member of it.
00:05:19.000 Many people are not, obviously.
00:05:21.000 Three quarters of the medical community do not belong to the AMA.
00:05:25.000 But they began controlling the power and then exchanging that power with the federal and state governments in exchange for power that the AMA would get back.
00:05:35.000 And that led to the pathway down which medicine has been funneled for the last hundred plus years now, 170 for 1850s.
00:05:47.000 And the biological weapons programs that began that actually began when this country was founded, the British using smallpox.
00:05:55.000 But during the Civil War, the Confederate troops used smallpox on blankets to go after Union troops.
00:06:01.000 We have accelerated that process.
00:06:04.000 We have learned how to make biological weapons.
00:06:06.000 In the first book, is COVID-19, a bioweapon, a scientific and forensic investigation.
00:06:11.000 I laid out evidence of the federal funding that has occurred from the Department of Defense, from NIAID, from NIH, from USAID, a number of federal agencies, more than $61 million in a couple of decades.
00:06:26.000 I show where that money went from and who it went to, like Peter Dezak at EcoHealth, Ralph Berick at University of North Carolina, Xi Zheng Li at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, how they worked together since the early 2000s to take part of HIV and insert it into coronaviruses to make them more effective and then to manipulate the coronaviruses in various labs around the world to make them more infective and dangerous.
00:06:56.000 There is a lot of talk that's been placed about the term gain of function, which you saw Dr. Fauci dance around yesterday during the committee to say, well, wait a minute, the definition has changed.
00:07:08.000 You know, a rose by any other name is still a rose.
00:07:13.000 And the end consequence of gain of function, whether we're talking about it with the manipulation of these viruses or passage, serial passage through animals, or whether we're all singing on a mountaintop with arms together singing kumbaya, if the end result is the development of a biological weapon, then the end result is a criminal action because the 1975 Biological Weapons Convention Treaty, the 1989 Anti-Terrorism Act,
00:07:43.000 and the 2012 18 USC Section 175 federal law, all passed by Congress, make it a crime to make a biological weapon.
00:07:53.000 So it does not matter how Fauci and the others funded or got to these biological virus weapons like SARS-CoV-2, that COVID-19 as most people refer to it.
00:08:07.000 It doesn't matter how they got to it.
00:08:09.000 The end result is that they still violated the law and are criminally responsible for their actions.
00:08:16.000 So there's so much here to discuss.
00:08:18.000 I want to take a step back and ask from a philosophical standpoint.
00:08:23.000 You got into medicine to treat people and to help people.
00:08:27.000 And the idea of modern science in the Western tradition traditionally was to understand the natural world, to do no harm to your patient, and to help people.
00:08:39.000 There seems to be a new philosophy, which is what your book is about and what Fauci believes in, what Dasick believes in, which is the manipulation of the natural world, not the understanding of the natural world.
00:08:50.000 Can we explore that?
00:08:52.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:08:53.000 Because when the justification for gain of function is laid out, the argument is, well, we just want to stay a step ahead of it.
00:09:00.000 We just want to be prepared for whatever the next natural disaster is.
00:09:06.000 And we have seen, again, many decades worth of these biological agents, these manipulations getting out and wreaking havoc, whether it was the prior SARS-CoV-1 or anthrax or any of a variety of other agents getting out, causing disease and killing people.
00:09:26.000 So there comes a point in time that you do have to sit down philosophically as a scientist and say, is the work that I'm doing actually beneficial or is it potentially harmful?
00:09:36.000 Could it move humanity forward or could it put us back into a dark ages?
00:09:41.000 Could it produce another bubonic plague, except this time due to the hands of humanity?
00:09:47.000 With the eugenics movements and the eugenic genetic vaccines having been rolled out and their goal being to create a more perfect, healthy, long-living human, the question has to be raised, will we actually make humanity better or will we weaken it by eliminating the very variability that has allowed humanity to prosper and thrive for many thousands of years?
00:10:13.000 One of the first items they're going after is sickle cell anemia.
00:10:17.000 And that research using these gene therapies has already been started where they're taking out and manipulating the genetics of the red blood cells from the bone marrow where the blood is made and then killing the bone marrow of those people before putting in what's been manipulated.
00:10:34.000 If they get it wrong, those people die.
00:10:37.000 If they get it wrong repeatedly, slowly but surely over time, while they think they're making advancements, they may very well be depleting the very thing that keeps humanity alive.
00:10:47.000 And we may be walking ourselves down a pattern or through a tunnel where we end up with a dead human species race because we have manipulated without knowing we were having other effects on our genome, our genetics, that will extinguish us as a species.
00:11:06.000 Dr. Richard Fleming, which are we the next endangered species, bioweapons, eugenics, and more.
00:11:10.000 And I want to properly talk about your biography.
00:11:14.000 It's amazing.
00:11:14.000 With over 53 years of research experience, you spent decades investigating what causes multiple heart problems, including heart disease, cancer, SARS-CoV-2, COVID-19.
00:11:24.000 You joined the American Heart Association in 1976.
00:11:27.000 You pioneered a new method.
00:11:30.000 In 1994, you presented his original theory on inflammation and heart disease, which was published in a cardiology textbook in 1999.
00:11:37.000 So an amazing biography, a really reputable.
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00:12:46.000 Dr. Fleming, I'm going to ask you a question, which is the title of your previous book.
00:12:49.000 Was COVID-19 a bioweapon?
00:12:53.000 Yes, it definitely was.
00:12:55.000 I mean, there's no doubt about it.
00:12:57.000 Again, when you look at taking something out of nature, so even if they went and they got bats out of caves in China, very specifically, the law states 18 USC section 175 passed in 2012 very specifically states even if you take something out of nature and manipulate it, you're building a biological agent and it's a weapon.
00:13:24.000 And since more than half of the funding for this came from the Department of Defense, you have to wonder what they're doing with it.
00:13:32.000 I mean, the DOD does not sell Girl Scout cookies with the Girl Scouts and it doesn't sell popcorn with the Boy Scouts.
00:13:38.000 It makes weapons systems.
00:13:40.000 What you should be asking as a question is why does the U.S. Federal Department of Defense channel money to make biological weapons that they either don't know where the money is going, which means they're incompetent and shouldn't be in charge of anything, or B, knows where the money is going and knows it's going to Wuhan China, to Ukrainian labs, and to a variety of places around the world.
00:14:07.000 What is the U.S. military?
00:14:09.000 What is USAID, Dr. Fauci's agency, before he resigned?
00:14:14.000 What is the National Institutes of Health?
00:14:16.000 What is USAID?
00:14:17.000 What are all of these agencies doing, funneling money to build biological weapons in countries that are our enemies, let alone doing it in our own country, which we're not supposed to be doing?
00:14:29.000 And there's one really important thing.
00:14:33.000 The Nature Magazine article in 2020, where they said that the COVID came from a natural origin, was the most cited article in the category of biology in the calendar year of 2020, in biology in 2020.
00:14:52.000 That article has still not been rescinded, still not been revoked.
00:14:56.000 Dr. Fleming, as someone who has been part of the American Heart Association, the top levels of American medicine, when I hear a doctor on television, not yourself, say something, I believe they're lying to me.
00:15:09.000 I believe that there's an agenda that they're bought and paid for.
00:15:12.000 So when they told me that this came from a bat in some cave or from a wet market, a lot of the American people bought it.
00:15:21.000 We knew it came from a laboratory from the beginning.
00:15:26.000 Why is modern science hate the truth so much?
00:15:29.000 Well, so let me begin by saying modern science does not hate the truth.
00:15:33.000 The problem is there are people in science who have gotten to positions of great power who are motivated by their own greed and desires to run the narrative the way that they think the narrative should be.
00:15:48.000 They do not represent science.
00:15:51.000 I have to applaud Representative Green and her response.
00:15:56.000 And normally I wouldn't do that because I'm a big fan of you got the degree.
00:16:00.000 I'm going to give you the recognition.
00:16:01.000 I'm going to call you Dr. Fauci.
00:16:03.000 But I think Representative Green stood her ground and I think was just so annoyed with the hypocrisy because the reason why you are supposed to trust us with our degrees isn't because we wear white coats.
00:16:19.000 It's because to get those degrees, you expect, and I expect young people to participate in this, that the person getting the degree is trying to do the right thing.
00:16:30.000 They're trying to understand science.
00:16:32.000 They're not trying to manipulate it.
00:16:34.000 You know, one of the compliments that people have told me over the years is that they know when they come to listen to me that they're getting the truth.
00:16:43.000 Sometimes they'll say, well, wait a minute, that's not what you said five years ago or 10 years ago.
00:16:47.000 And my first response is, oh my, I didn't, you know, you need a better hobby than attract media around the country.
00:16:53.000 But the answer to the question is, I'm only going to tell you what the science tells me.
00:16:58.000 And if I follow the science, it will teach me the way to be right isn't to try to make up the science and pretend what you want is real.
00:17:09.000 The way to be right and the way to gain credibility is to follow the science, report the science.
00:17:15.000 And when the science shows you that what you thought before was wrong and you evolved to a new era, like I did with the theory that I introduced at American Heart in 94, you follow that and you tell people this is what the science shows.
00:17:29.000 You know, Dr. Fauci could have been extremely honest yesterday and he could have been extremely honest in the past if he would have just actually told the truth up front.
00:17:41.000 No, we don't have data that it's six feet.
00:17:44.000 We're guessing.
00:17:46.000 We don't have the answers.
00:17:48.000 We're guessing.
00:17:49.000 As a medical student and working with HIV, brand new, we worked through the scenarios.
00:17:55.000 We didn't have answers, but we had to find answers.
00:17:58.000 And you try something and it either works or it doesn't work and you move forward, but you don't come up with pretend answers or solutions and think that you're going to make anybody better.
00:18:09.000 Guessing is not the way science is done.
00:18:11.000 Science is a very rigid approach to testing and hypothesizing and working through something and coming up with something better.
00:18:19.000 You know, when I became a medical student, I already had my PhD and our dean told us that 90% of what we would be taught in medical school was wrong.
00:18:28.000 They just didn't know what it was.
00:18:29.000 And he asked those of us who were scientists to please step forward and to help provide some of the answers that were needed to make us better than just 10% of the time right.
00:18:41.000 When I was a student, that's when Dr. Fauci became head of NIAID.
00:18:46.000 And I have to tell you, I have not seen a single paper that Dr. Fauci has authored or been in charge of the research of that has made a major contribution in science.
00:18:56.000 So when he stepped forward at the beginning of all this in 2020 and said he is science, I was shocked.
00:19:03.000 And And I have personally had to deal with watching what looks like the deterioration of respect for science and medicine.
00:19:12.000 And part of that is on us.
00:19:13.000 We can't just blame this on Fauci.
00:19:16.000 The medical community and the scientific community has got to step up and take some responsibility.
00:19:21.000 And one of the problems that we have here is we don't even seem to be able to call it a biological weapon for what it is.
00:19:28.000 We want to dance around this.
00:19:29.000 The truth of the matter is that the United States, our government, and people within our government have funded illegal research that has produced biological weapons that has killed more than almost 1.2 million Americans, maimed another 1.5 million, produced another 600,000 XX deaths from all the inflammation and blood clotting or inflammothermotic response to these diseases, and 34,516 vaccine deaths that are accepted by anybody looking at the numbers.
00:20:00.000 We don't need to hyperbolate.
00:20:01.000 We don't need to extrapolate or try to pretend the numbers should be larger.
00:20:05.000 The next thing to that was swine flu vaccine with 53 deaths.
00:20:10.000 And mainstream media had a heyday with that.
00:20:13.000 60 Minutes did a documentary on it.
00:20:15.000 Why we've not been addressing this in an organized manner and saying, what the heck just happened?
00:20:22.000 We have biological agents that don't exist, that they cannot find the animal model to, but they want to pretend it came from animals.
00:20:31.000 There's all sorts of data showing the manipulation of this by human beings.
00:20:35.000 There is data tracking the development of three viruses, RS 3367, RSSHC015, and MA14, which even a DASAC slipped on, but nobody knew that he slipped by introducing that one term.
00:20:51.000 These are the viruses that are gain-of-function biological weapons that our government, including Anthony Fauci's NIAID, helped to fund.
00:21:01.000 And we're not supposed to be doing that.
00:21:03.000 And there are dead Americans and maimed Americans and tens of millions of dead and maimed people around the world, all as the result of criminal actions that these people need to be held accountable for.
00:21:17.000 And the book, or Read the Next Endangered Species, not only lays this out so you can understand it, go through it at your pace, go to the QR codes and see documents and files and research not only on these viruses, but on the genetic vaccines and where they really came from and what they really should be doing and what's being done with them.
00:21:38.000 But it has audio files and video files so you can walk yourself through at your pace to wrap your brain around it.
00:21:45.000 And then the book provides three sets of answers: one for legislation that needs to occur, one to take and address the genetic vaccines.
00:21:53.000 And the most important, I would argue, is to put these criminals like Dr. Fauci behind bars for life.
00:22:01.000 And that is a 10letters.org campaign.
00:22:04.000 You will also see in the book that I have challenged Dr. Fauci multiple times to a debate.
00:22:11.000 The only two people that I'm aware of who's done that is Dr. Kerry Mullis, who's no longer alive.
00:22:17.000 He died in 2019, and myself.
00:22:19.000 And Dr. Fauci, and you'll get to see the email correspondence with the book and the QR codes, kindly said, I don't have time.
00:22:27.000 I'm too busy.
00:22:28.000 The next time I'd ask him, I don't have time.
00:22:30.000 I'm too busy.
00:22:31.000 Well, Dr. Fauci, you're not too busy now.
00:22:34.000 And the American people have a right to know.
00:22:37.000 Why did you and these other government agencies fund research that you knew were producing biological weapons based upon the rules that you want to do, which is somebody has defined what a biological weapon is, so we have to go with that.
00:22:54.000 Biological Weapons Convention Treaty, the Anti-Terrorism Act, or 18 USC Section 175.
00:23:00.000 If we're going to use the other people's definitions, then we have to apply it to you too, Dr. Fauci.
00:23:06.000 You helped build biological weapons.
00:23:09.000 You must be held criminally accountable.
00:23:11.000 And what the American public began to see yesterday is that you have been guessing and hedging and skirting the issue for decades, and particularly during the last four years, as Americans turned desperately to you.
00:23:26.000 You abandoned Americans, you abandoned science, you abandoned medicine.
00:23:32.000 That is very well said.
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00:24:56.000 I want to play a piece of tape here.
00:24:59.000 Let's go to, I want your reaction to this.
00:25:02.000 Let's play cut 28, please.
00:25:05.000 Did the COVID vaccine stop transmission of the virus?
00:25:08.000 The vaccines did have an effect, not 100%, not a high effect.
00:25:14.000 They did prevent infection and subsequently, obviously, transmission.
00:25:21.000 However, it's important to point out something that we did not know early on that became evident as the months went by is that the durability of protection against infection and hence transmission was relatively limited, whereas the duration of protection against severe disease, hospitalization, and deaths was more prolonged.
00:25:47.000 Dr. Fleming, your reaction.
00:25:49.000 Yeah, let's actually look at the data instead of taking his opinion for something.
00:25:54.000 The emergency use authorization documents, and you can go to FlemingMethod.com, go to the third column, go to documents 2, 3, and 51.
00:26:03.000 There's over 500 documents.
00:26:04.000 2, 3, and 51 are the Pfizer, Moderna, and Janssen emergency use authorization documents.
00:26:10.000 If you go into those documents and you look for evidence that there was any benefit from a vaccine, you know, by making interferon, which is critical, you'll find out there's no numbers.
00:26:21.000 There's no numbers on tissue necrosis factor or antibody levels.
00:26:25.000 But if you do what a scientist does, if you go in and you do statistics, the math method for do the differences that I think I see actually amount to anything, you will discover, and I've talked about this for years now, that there was no statistical difference between the number of people who got ill or the number of people who got died in the research that was published in the EUA documents.
00:26:52.000 No difference between the people who were vaccinated and the people who were not vaccinated.
00:26:57.000 So the EUA documents themselves contradict Dr. Fauci.
00:27:02.000 It is also important to note that no vaccine in the history of mankind has ever prevented an infection.
00:27:11.000 In fact, for a vaccine to have a benefit, you must get infected after you've been vaccinated because the purpose is to shorten the amount of time it takes you to respond.
00:27:27.000 Let's look at the actual vaccines themselves.
00:27:31.000 These are mRNA vaccines, messenger ribonucleic acid vaccines, a genetic code sequence.
00:27:40.000 In 2008, Carico and Weissman published their research on pseudouridine.
00:27:48.000 Well, what's pseudouridine?
00:27:50.000 It turns out that RNA, like DNA, has four nucleoside bases, and one of those is called uridine.
00:27:59.000 Prior to 2008, mRNA or DNA outside of a cell was unstable.
00:28:06.000 It broke down.
00:28:07.000 They were using it for gene therapy.
00:28:08.000 It didn't work.
00:28:09.000 It broke down.
00:28:11.000 And it also caused damage to proteins in the area.
00:28:14.000 And that's called prion disease, mad cow disease, Alzheimer's, amyloidosis, bad diseases.
00:28:22.000 So what Carrico and Weissman did is they took one of these uridines and they flipped a couple atoms, a carbon and a nitrogen around and had to add a hydrogen atom.
00:28:33.000 And they made a false uridine, pseudo-uridine.
00:28:38.000 And they published their paper, which got them the Nobel Prize in Medicine last year in 2023.
00:28:45.000 Their paper said this.
00:28:46.000 One, by making uridine pseudouridine, they had stabilized the mRNA molecule.
00:28:54.000 First time ever.
00:28:55.000 Two, they tried to see if it would be useful as a vaccine, and they showed that pseudouridine, which is in these shots, doesn't cause interferon levels to go up.
00:29:12.000 Interferon is critical because it interferes with viruses.
00:29:18.000 It doesn't go up with pseudoridine.
00:29:20.000 So they said, one, we stabilize the molecule.
00:29:22.000 Two, it won't work as a vaccine, but three, guess what?
00:29:25.000 It will work for a transfection tool.
00:29:28.000 Transfection means genetic therapy.
00:29:33.000 That's the scientific term for it if you don't have viruses involved and you do something like these vaccines.
00:29:39.000 They stabilized it.
00:29:41.000 It won't work as a vaccine and it's going to make a great genetic tool.
00:29:45.000 Won't work as a vaccine.
00:29:47.000 2008, they get the Nobel Prize in 2023.
00:29:50.000 Well, if it doesn't work as a vaccine in 2008 and it doesn't work to get you a Nobel Prize in 2023, do you think it worked as a vaccine in 2021 and 2022?
00:30:01.000 No, it didn't.
00:30:03.000 And the results in the EUA documents showed it did not change statistically the number of people who got infected or who died.
00:30:13.000 It's unbelievable, Dr. Fleming.
00:30:15.000 So just really quick, I agree that Dr. Fauci should go to or Fauci should go to jail.
00:30:20.000 What crimes in particular do you think he should be tried for and convicted of?
00:30:26.000 The primary crime is the development of biological weapons, number one.
00:30:31.000 But number two, at the state level, all the people that are dead and all the people that have been maimed, he should be held accountable for their murder and their injuries because his biological weapon that he helped fund and Cullens and Gates and the other people at the DOD, they killed and maimed people.
00:30:56.000 So they not only violated the Biological Weapons Convention Treaty and the other federal laws that I told you about, but they have killed people, they have maimed people, they have harmed people.
00:31:06.000 I guess there's no crime for having damaged the reputation of science and physicians like myself and gone after us.
00:31:13.000 But we'll all live with it because at the end of the day, we know the right side of history.
00:31:19.000 We know who the real criminal is.
00:31:21.000 It's not the people being accused of funneling money to some Playboy bunny or whatever the heck she was.
00:31:29.000 The reality is that there's a big difference between that nonsense and actually killing Americans and people around the world.
00:31:38.000 But what we've discovered now is that there was a massive cover-up from the very beginning.
00:31:43.000 There was a behind the scenes effort to change the opinion of people.
00:31:47.000 Many of the people, many of the Fauci colleagues all believed that the virus did come from the lab.
00:31:52.000 Their opinions were all changed, but then all evidence was then covered up.
00:31:57.000 They began using burner phones.
00:31:59.000 They began using couriers.
00:32:00.000 They said, we can't do things electronically.
00:32:02.000 I can take things by hand to his house.
00:32:05.000 It sounds more like the CIA than the NIH, but it's unbelievable the amount of things that went on.
00:32:11.000 They say, oh, we're safe now.
00:32:13.000 I've deleted all those emails.
00:32:15.000 I think we're safe now.
00:32:17.000 What in the world?
00:32:17.000 Would they actually mean by we think we're safe now?
00:32:21.000 So Dr. Fleming, what's going on here?
00:32:23.000 This is a conspiracy to run around with couriers and burning documents and burner phones.
00:32:27.000 What's going on here?
00:32:28.000 Well, one of the things I point out in the book is that part of how the United States got to where it sat in the present day was we took Nazis following World War II, more than 3,000 of them, and integrated them into our intelligence agencies, our scientific communities, and our medical communities.
00:32:45.000 We prosecuted a couple dozen at Nuremberg and brought 3,000 out into the U.S., China, or U.S., Russia, Britain, France, and Canada.
00:32:55.000 And four of those nations are on the Security Council of the UN.
00:32:58.000 What we have done here is just simply brought Nazi Germany through the development of Project 63, Operation Paperclip, MKUltra, Operation Ashvarashim in Russia, and incorporated them into our system.
00:33:14.000 It is not a surprise that this is a CIA DOD type operation.
00:33:19.000 President John F. Kennedy and President Eisenhower tried to warn of this in the late 50s, early 60s, 1960s, and we're seeing the ramification of it.
00:33:29.000 They've simply carried through the same playbook that they've had for more than half a century.
00:33:35.000 They've been successful with it.
00:33:37.000 And until we hold them criminally accountable, they are not going to change that approach.
00:33:42.000 So Dr. Rand Paul, Senator Rand Paul, is exactly right when he refers to the fact that they are running these operations with an idea of just simply eliminating it.
00:33:53.000 I mean, again, if nobody's going to hold these criminals accountable, which 10letters.org is designed to do for Americans to go on and send in letters to their governors and attorney generals to actually get indictments on these people, then they will continue to destroy the evidence they don't want.
00:34:10.000 They destroyed evidence in my case.
00:34:11.000 They destroyed evidence in Trump's case.
00:34:13.000 They wouldn't let people get on the stand that had evidence that was important for the jury to know.
00:34:18.000 Cover-up is the name of the game and the DOD is good at it.
00:34:21.000 You'll see in my book $419,511 that was paid out by the U.S. Department of Defense through Metabiota and Black and Beach in November of 2019 to Ukrainian labs for a report on COVID-19 seven weeks before anybody heard about it.
00:34:40.000 If you go to that same website, which again with the instructions in my book, you will see that the DOD has since eliminated or erased those records, except I have copies of it all for the record for the courts.
00:34:54.000 The DOD itself went in and eliminated those grants and showed now that the grants stopped January 31st, 2013, and the grants are now conducted with work that's being done on children.
00:35:07.000 So the DOD and the CIA and the government agencies involved with this have a history of deleting records, of destroying evidence.
00:35:16.000 It's called obstruction of justice, and these criminals must be held accountable.
00:35:21.000 I completely agree.
00:35:23.000 And it's if justice is going to still be a core American value, as you say, Donald Trump becomes a convicted felon over some paperwork stuff.
00:35:33.000 You engage in creating a bioweapon that infects the entire planet, and you get speakers, you get speaking fees and get rewarded by the largest pharmaceutical companies.
00:35:48.000 Dr. Fleming, it's been great having you with us.
00:35:51.000 Just please plug your book one more time for our audience.
00:35:53.000 My pleasure.
00:35:54.000 So it's called, Are We the Next Endangered Species, Bioweapons, Eugenics, and More?
00:35:59.000 And the one that Skyhorse published before that is COVID-19, a bioweapon, a scientific and forensic investigation.
00:36:06.000 This is going to provide you the evidence to know what really happened, as well as a way forward instructions for addressing these criminals, addressing the vaccines, and putting the federal government back in the box where it's supposed to operate in, instead of in the backyards and the bedrooms of American citizens.
00:36:25.000 Dr. Fleming, thank you so much for your time.
00:36:27.000 Thank you.
00:36:28.000 My pleasure.
00:36:28.000 Thank you.
00:36:29.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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