The Charlie Kirk Show - Post-Conviction Trump: Stronger Than Ever?

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00:03:00.000 We have two guests, two great men that are fighting for the cause of liberty and this country.

00:03:05.000 It is Raheem Kassam, editor-in-chief of the National Pulse, and Mike Davis from the Article 3 project that join us the entire hour.

00:03:13.000 Guys, I want to keep this a free-flowing conversation.

00:03:15.000 There's lots to cover here.

00:03:17.000 First, I want to, Raheem, I want to get a pulse check.

00:03:21.000 National Pulse, get a little bit of a pulse check here.

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00:03:37.000 Is Donald Trump stronger post-conviction?

00:03:43.000 I think that's a question that we are kind of waiting to figure out as the numbers continue to flood in.

00:03:49.000 And I'm not talking about the cash numbers here.

00:03:53.000 Over the weekend, of course, a lot of people are very excited about how much money is going into the campaign.

00:03:59.000 I would be more excited about what I see coming out.

00:04:03.000 And that output is, you know, it's a lot of different things.

00:04:07.000 It's local ground game.

00:04:09.000 It's changes, if there are going to be any, right, to how people cast their votes and how those votes are counted.

00:04:16.000 And it comes down to, again, big set piece moments like the debates as an example.

00:04:23.000 I would say, look, I'll just be totally honest with you.

00:04:28.000 Donald Trump, even as Donald Trump, is still a human being.

00:04:31.000 And I'm sure this stuff is weighing on him.

00:04:34.000 That presser that he gave last week, you could see, you know, it's, and it's no fault of his, that you can see it weighing on him.

00:04:41.000 You can see it taking a toll.

00:04:44.000 But at the same time, I think it breeds a kind of resolve, right?

00:04:49.000 It breeds a resolve at a local level.

00:04:52.000 It breeds a resolve in the man himself.

00:04:55.000 If channeled correctly, this puts him in a far better position.

00:05:01.000 But at the same time, Charlie, this isn't the first time I'll ever say this.

00:05:04.000 It won't be the last time I ever say it.

00:05:07.000 If the people around him and if the RNC are not sharing in that resolve, they are not putting their shoulder to the wheel to get that man elected, then he will not be elected.

00:05:16.000 And there are so many details that go in behind that.

00:05:19.000 There are so many small little boxes that you have to tick along the way.

00:05:24.000 You cannot simply rely on donor cash and polling performance.

00:05:31.000 This is what real campaigns come down to, nitty-gritty and detail.

00:05:35.000 Now, I'm going to follow up with that in a second, but I want to get Mike's thought.

00:05:39.000 Mike, stronger or neutral?

00:05:43.000 Does he get stronger the more that is thrown at him?

00:05:45.000 I think President Trump is going to get much stronger because of this unprecedented Biden-Democrat law fair and election interference.

00:05:52.000 We've been talking about this for the last nearly two years, Charlie, since the unnecessary, unlawful, unprecedented raid on the office of former president for presidential records he's allowed to have under the Presidential Records Act.

00:06:05.000 And you see this Biden lawfare against President Trump and many different jurisdictions across the country.

00:06:12.000 And frankly, this New York case was their weakest case.

00:06:16.000 And the American people tuned in and they didn't like what they see.

00:06:20.000 They saw a rigged, corrupt, partisan process.

00:06:24.000 It's an illegitimate process in New York.

00:06:27.000 And I've seen it.

00:06:28.000 I always knew that this lawfare would backfire and backfire spectacularly.

00:06:33.000 I was stunned with the reaction I saw after this bogus guilty verdict of President Trump.

00:06:41.000 I was getting phone calls, DMs, text messages from people who don't like Trump, people who are sick of Trump, who are all in now.

00:06:49.000 And I think it's going to unify all factions of the Republican Party.

00:06:54.000 It's going to bring in independents. 0.96

00:06:56.000 It's even going to bring in some right-thinking Democrats.

00:06:59.000 I think the American people understand that they, not these Biden Democrats, prosecutors and judges and witnesses and operatives in these Democrat hellholes of New York, D.C. and Atlanta, the American people get to decide who is our president.

00:07:17.000 So, Raheem, I want to throw back to you because you were kind of alluding to something.

00:07:20.000 You said that the election will be won in the nitty-gritty.

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00:07:28.000 I mean, we got more events that we know what to do with.

00:07:29.000 We're hosting President Trump on Thursday, People's Convention.

00:07:32.000 Rahim, are you seeing the infrastructure that is necessary globally?

00:07:38.000 Or do you think that there needs to be more emphasis, more funding?

00:07:42.000 Just kind of give us the status report of what you're seeing.

00:07:45.000 Yeah, no, frankly, the changes at a local level have not been made.

00:07:50.000 Frankly, the operations at local level.

00:07:53.000 Look, I'm getting calls multiple times today.

00:07:56.000 Sure, you are too, to say that the local level organizations are simply not where they need to be.

00:08:02.000 The people who are being promised a lot of election integrity, people on the ground, analysts, people to go through the rules, people to challenge the rules, legal fights, all of that have not occurred, have not amounted to anything.

00:08:16.000 And a lot of these people are officials at local levels.

00:08:20.000 They point fingers at the RNC, the previous RNC and the current RNC, by the way.

00:08:26.000 We have to be real about that.

00:08:28.000 Not enough changes have been made in the short amount of time that they've had.

00:08:32.000 And I do accept that it's been a short amount of time, but we also have an extremely short amount of time until the election.

00:08:38.000 And by the way, when I say all of these things, goodness me, I'm happy to be proved wrong.

00:08:42.000 I mean, that would fill me with glee.

00:08:44.000 But at this point in time, like I say, the box ticking at a hyperlocal level, I'm getting the feeling that we're not quite there yet.

00:08:54.000 Now, some of that can be dealt with, you know, using money, using resources, but you also have to have the right people.

00:09:00.000 You also have to have the types of people who are willing to run headfirst on into these problems.

00:09:06.000 We saw this issue come up several weeks ago when it was announced that Charlie Spees was being pushed into the RNC as chief legal counsel.

00:09:15.000 And of course, many people objected to that.

00:09:17.000 Charlie Spees being a friend of Mark Elias, being a never-Trumper himself.

00:09:23.000 And President Trump even objected to it twice, in fact.

00:09:27.000 So you have to have somebody in that kind of position who isn't going to try to come to an accommodation with the left, try to come to an accommodation with the government in terms of what the election result will be and what the challenges at state levels are going to be.

00:09:43.000 You also have to have kind of a much more targeted approach to dealing with this than just saying, and this is, by the way, no slight on what Mike was saying, because I think he's absolutely correct.

00:09:54.000 I sat in Manhattan bars all weekend, pubs and bars all weekend. 0.96

00:09:57.000 I've got to tell you, some of the most left-wing people are talking to me and saying, I'm absolutely voting Trump because this is a disgrace and it's disgusting and whatever.

00:10:06.000 You have to carry that through between now and November 5th.

00:10:10.000 And that, you know, that is a big lift.

00:10:12.000 It's a heavy lift.

00:10:13.000 And it's a lift that not just involves keeping that defiant spirit up, but it also includes making sure those people get to the ballot box and cast their votes for Donald Trump on that day.

00:10:24.000 And by the way, Charlie also casts their votes for Republicans down the ticket because we both know that if there is a Democrat House, if there is an ability for Democrats to go into the chamber and say we are not certifying these votes for Donald Trump because he's a convict and an insurrectionist and whatever, they will take every opportunity possible.

00:10:44.000 Mike Davis, do you have something to add to that from Raheem?

00:10:47.000 I 100% agree with both what you, Charlie, and what Raheem are saying.

00:10:52.000 We have to be able to take this anger, this building support for President Trump.

00:10:56.000 We have to translate that into voter registration and voter turnout.

00:11:01.000 The Democrats are so much better than we are as Republicans, as conservatives, as right-thinking Democrats and independents.

00:11:09.000 They are so much better on the left at turning out their votes.

00:11:13.000 And we need to get a lot better on the right at doing that.

00:11:16.000 And so I commend what you guys are saying and what you guys are doing.

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00:12:29.000 So, there's a lot of threats on the horizon here when it comes to the presidential election.

00:12:34.000 Mike, I want to get your reaction here from the Article III project.

00:12:38.000 What is your take on the lack of legal rejection, if you will, that even people that say that they love the law and they honor the law, they seem to be okay with Donald Trump receiving a Moscow show trial.

00:12:54.000 There's some exceptions, the CNN legal editor.

00:12:57.000 How do we make sense of that, Mike Davis?

00:13:00.000 I think we make sense of that because what we've been talking about for two years, Charlie, is that today's Democrats are not our parents' or grandparents' Democrat Party.

00:13:09.000 These aren't liberals who love America and just disagree with conservatives on the best way to get there.

00:13:15.000 These are leftists, these are Marxists, they hate free speech, they believe in censorship, they hate equality, they believe in equity, they hate due process, they believe in politicized and weaponized justice systems, and that's really started under me too, and it's just escalated with these Biden trials of President Trump in multiple jurisdictions in New York, D.C., in Atlanta, civil, criminal,

00:13:44.000 in Colorado.

00:13:45.000 They tried to take him off the ballot.

00:13:46.000 In Maine, they tried to take him off the ballot.

00:13:48.000 In Arizona, the Arizona attorney general who stole that election from Abe, yes, she stole it. 0.58

00:13:54.000 She brought a bogus indictment against Trump's supporters and aides and named him as an unindicted co-conspirator for January 6th based upon another bogus Biden Democrat-driven legal theory.

00:14:07.000 And she could easily add him as an indicted conspirator, co-conspirator, at any point.

00:14:13.000 So, this is, look, these are republic-ending tactics by these, by President Biden, his attorneys, like Jonathan Sue, who Green works with Gary Stern at the National Archives, the general counsel, along with Jay Brad of the Justice Department, to orchestrate the Mar-a-Lago raid, the political hits.

00:14:31.000 I mean, this is Biden's Biden's fingerprints are on all four of these unprecedented indictments with Jonathan Sue, his fingerprints on the Mar-a-Lago raid, which led to two of Jack Smith's indictments, one for January 6th for the non-crime of objecting to a presidential election, which is allowed by the Electoral Count Act of 1887 in the First Amendment.

00:14:54.000 Biden's fingerprints are also on Jack Smith's January 6th case through Jonathan Su for the Mar-a-Lago case for having presidential records in the office of former president, which is allowed by the Presidential Records Act.

00:15:10.000 Notice how the Biden Justice Department is prosecuting Trump for having presidential records, but not prosecuting Biden for having stolen classified records.

00:15:19.000 And then you have Matthew Colangelo going to Bragg's office from the number three office in the Biden Justice Department to bring this bogus trial.

00:15:27.000 And New York, you have Nathan Wade, Fannie Willis's big, dumb, unqualified boyfriend, billing 16 hours of his time, $250 an hour, to meet with the Biden White House, including the White House Counsel.

00:15:38.000 This is Biden-driven lawfare and election interference, and Republicans need to understand that and fight back against this. 0.86

00:15:47.000 Is it time to indict the left, Raheem Kassam?

00:15:49.000 Yeah, yes.

00:15:51.000 And I think the public is indicting the left right now, and that needs to be carried through to an actual legal process.

00:15:57.000 You know, we used to worry about relativism.

00:16:00.000 Now we've got pure demonic forces out there being celebrated.

00:16:04.000 We used to worry about socialism.

00:16:06.000 Now we have full-on communism in the Western world. 0.79

00:16:09.000 We used to worry about integration of people from other countries.

00:16:12.000 Now you have overt anti-white racism having been normalized.

00:16:15.000 You know, they have totally and completely decided to pursue a strategy to pursue a philosophy of what can only be described as third worldism.

00:16:25.000 Okay, it's third worldism.

00:16:27.000 They want to turn this country into a third world nation. 0.73

00:16:29.000 It is not by accident. 1.00

00:16:30.000 They're not morons. 1.00

00:16:31.000 They're not stupid. 1.00

00:16:32.000 They know exactly what they're doing. 0.99

00:16:34.000 They want to create this base.

00:16:35.000 It's why they're giving millions upon millions of emergency authorizations for work to millions of illegals, even some of them becoming police officers, by the way, in California and Illinois.

00:16:46.000 This is, you know, once upon a time, you were pilloried for saying the word replacement.

00:16:52.000 Well, they are replacing everything.

00:16:54.000 They are supplanting everything about Western civil society.

00:16:58.000 And that is a reality to which a lot of people woke up this past week.

00:17:04.000 It is time to indict them because that is all they understand is mutually assured destruction.

00:17:09.000 So, Rahim, I want to start with you.

00:17:11.000 This is an amazing piece from The National Pulse, all about the continued, like the push for amnesty, essentially, from Joe Biden.

00:17:19.000 Walk us through this piece.

00:17:20.000 Yeah, thanks, Charlie.

00:17:21.000 You know, this is something we've been keeping our eye on for some time now, wondering what exactly is the Biden regime doing with all these people that are being brought illegally into the country.

00:17:32.000 You know, we know we see the horror stories, we see the worst parts of, and we keep also a migrant crime roundup every week just to show people what's going on.

00:17:43.000 But on the flip side, you know, what are the pull factors?

00:17:46.000 This is a phrase that we often used to use in the run-up to the Brexit campaign.

00:17:50.000 What are the pull factors?

00:17:51.000 You know, besides America being the land of plenty, well, you've got the corporate pull factors, which are a major, major part of it.

00:17:59.000 And what's happening as a result of that is the government is being lobbied by massive, massive U.S. corporations, Tyson Foods being the most heinous example of that, to say, hey, look, you've got all of this labor in this country.

00:18:14.000 We've lobbied you to keep the borders open and keep these people coming in for decades now.

00:18:20.000 They're finally getting what they want.

00:18:23.000 Now, how do we actually put these people to work?

00:18:26.000 They are effectively indentured servants to the corporate American class because what the Biden government is doing is giving people emergency authorization for work permits.

00:18:42.000 It's kind of known as a green card light to people who work kind of in the immigration industry.

00:18:48.000 And what it does is it takes somebody who's either in the country completely illegally or somebody who's awaiting an asylum claim or case or whatever.

00:18:59.000 And it says to them, you know what?

00:19:00.000 Why don't you just go work in one of these factories for pittance an hour in one of the frankly one of these dangerous factories?

00:19:07.000 We've heard so many horror stories, people unqualified and getting their arms cut off and sucked into machines and things like that.

00:19:15.000 An expendable slave class of people as far as corporate America is concerned.

00:19:20.000 And we're now watching this take place. 0.73

00:19:22.000 We had seen it take place by the tens of thousands for some months.

00:19:27.000 We're now seeing it building to the hundreds of thousands to the point where we're now entering the millions of people being authorized to work in the U.S.

00:19:38.000 And I will keep saying it.

00:19:39.000 It is indentured servitude.

00:19:41.000 It is modern day slavery.

00:19:42.000 And yeah, this is a huge story.

00:19:45.000 Mike, I want to get your take on the lawless thread here.

00:19:50.000 How are we able to continue to have the pseudo-amnesty?

00:19:54.000 Wouldn't the courts strike this down?

00:19:57.000 What is the legal perspective here?

00:19:59.000 Yeah, that's a big problem.

00:20:00.000 And the problem is the courts need to step up.

00:20:03.000 Congress is in charge of writing our immigration laws, and the president has a duty under the Constitution to enforce them. 0.73

00:20:11.000 And what we've seen under President Biden is he has abandoned his job as the chief executive, the chief law enforcement officer, and he's allowed over 10 million illegal immigrants to flood into our country. 0.93

00:20:26.000 And many of them are unvetted and unvettable fighting-age men from some of the worst trouble spots around the world, including China. 1.00

00:20:36.000 I don't, I mean, that's a huge problem that we're letting people come in from these places. 1.00

00:20:40.000 And frankly, the House Republicans should step up and do more.

00:20:44.000 They need to have more oversight.

00:20:46.000 They need to have more accountability.

00:20:49.000 They need to hold my ORCIS accountable.

00:20:53.000 They tried to do that.

00:20:54.000 And the problem is they just, there are too many Republicans that are, as Raheem was saying, there are too many Republicans who are in that corporate camp, right?

00:21:03.000 And they'll say good things.

00:21:06.000 They'll pay lip surface about illegal immigration.

00:21:09.000 But behind the scenes, they want this to happen because it helps their corporate overlords.

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00:23:12.000 So I want to throw it back to you here, Mike, and it's a change of topic here.

00:23:15.000 I think it's very important.

00:23:17.000 Which I saw this story come out a couple weeks ago or a week and a half ago, and I was like, that's bizarre, but it's all coordinated, which was the attack on Alito's appeal to heaven flag.

00:23:27.000 And this is them trying to work the refs for the inevitable Supreme Court taking of the Trump case.

00:23:33.000 Mike Davis, you begin.

00:23:34.000 Then Raheem can get your thoughts on this.

00:23:36.000 Walk us through this entire saga.

00:23:38.000 We haven't covered this yet. 0.98

00:23:39.000 Yeah, this is such a silly hoax, another hoax by the Democrats. 0.95

00:23:45.000 I know Mrs. Alito, and I love Mrs. Alito, but she is a very strong-willed woman. 0.63

00:23:51.000 And as you saw from Justice Alito's statement that he put out, which was kind of humorous to read, she wanted to fly flags at the house, and Justice Alito didn't like the flags, and Mrs. Alito won, right?

00:24:04.000 And so she flew flags, the appeal to heaven that has been flown for centuries going back to George Washington.

00:24:13.000 It was the American Revolution flag.

00:24:15.000 It was flown in San Francisco.

00:24:18.000 City of San Francisco flew this flag until it all of a sudden became the symbol of January 6th, two weeks ago, somehow, right?

00:24:26.000 And so it's just absolutely silly that the left is trying to say that because Mrs. Alito flew this flag that's flown in America for centuries, including in San Francisco, not exactly MAGA territory, that that was somehow an insurrection flag on January 6th because some people on January 6th flew that flag and other flags.

00:24:48.000 And so therefore, Justice Alito somehow has to recuse from the two January 6th cases before the Supreme Court right now.

00:24:56.000 The Fisher case on obstruction of justice under a post-Enron statute and then President Trump's presidential immunity. 0.98

00:25:04.000 It is a laughably stupid legal argument. 0.79

00:25:07.000 If somehow Justice Alito needed to recuse, why hasn't the Biden Justice Department filed a motion asking for him to recuse? 1.00

00:25:16.000 And the reason is, it is such a frivolous argument and they know it.

00:25:20.000 And there was also an upside-down American flag, a distress flag that Mrs. Alito flew when one of her deranged left-wing neighbors harassed the hell out of her, called her the C-word after she told them to take an F Trump sign down that these crazy neighbors had near a bus stop at their Virginia house.

00:25:42.000 So the appeal to heaven flag flew at their New Jersey beach house that she owns, Mrs. Alito owns, and then their Virginia house that they both own. 0.97

00:25:52.000 She got into a scuffle with the neighbor because this neighbor is a real partisan deranged jerk and had an F Trump sign in front of kids at a school bus. 0.98

00:26:02.000 So Raheem, this is all coordinated. 0.99

00:26:04.000 This was a coordinated PR hit, right?

00:26:05.000 This appeal to heaven stuff because they wanted to try to weaken the Supreme Court.

00:26:10.000 It is the only branch of government that is like a check on sanity.

00:26:16.000 We don't have the administrative state.

00:26:18.000 We do not have the executive branch and we do not have the congressional branch.

00:26:22.000 The Supreme Court is the last bastion that says no, Raheem Kassam.

00:26:27.000 Yeah, and there's so much more to that story as Mike was sort of getting to there as well.

00:26:33.000 The harassment with which they have had to deal.

00:26:35.000 By the way, if anybody should be offended by appeal to heaven, it's the British guy, right?

00:26:41.000 And I'm not offended by it.

00:26:43.000 They were undergoing a harassment campaign at their home.

00:26:47.000 The neighbors were putting up signs that were threatening.

00:26:51.000 They were marching outside the house.

00:26:53.000 They were shouting at them, so on and so forth.

00:26:55.000 And so the response was, okay, we're going to fly the distress flag to show to people that, hey, even in our own neighborhood, we're being routinely abused like this.

00:27:04.000 As you say, called the C-word, but that's not all.

00:27:06.000 The mother of the couple who was doing this to the Alitos, I think she was a PBS executive, came out and said, well, they were doing it with the best of intentions.

00:27:14.000 Well, what is the best of intentions behind harassing your neighbor, let alone the neighbor being a Supreme Court justice and his wife?

00:27:20.000 There is no.

00:27:21.000 There's absolutely no justification for that.

00:27:23.000 And what they're doing here is, yes, undermining the Supreme Court and its decision-making power in all of these cases, but it's also meant to threaten the lives of these people.

00:27:32.000 You know, it's no surprise that they will come to some kind of plea deal with the guy who tries to go and assassinate Justice Kavanaugh.

00:27:41.000 But of course, the guy who breaks into the Pelosi's house gets 40 years and the book thrown at him, right?

00:27:45.000 Those are completely divergent ways of dealing with similar cases there.

00:27:52.000 And it's designed, again, to try and make Republicans, try and make conservatives think twice about the career trajectories that they're going through.

00:27:59.000 It's going to fail because I think a lot of people now, probably the appeal to heaven flag has never been so popular in this country, probably since the late 1770s.

00:28:10.000 And so that should be quite right.

00:28:12.000 Everybody should.

00:28:12.000 I was just reading an article in the break that said that Republican members of Congress are now erecting those flags outside their offices.

00:28:19.000 And so they should be.

00:28:21.000 You cannot accept this.

00:28:22.000 You cannot allow for it.

00:28:23.000 Lean back in.

00:28:25.000 That's exactly right.

00:28:26.000 Mike Davis, final thought on this topic.

00:28:28.000 I would say this. 0.62

00:28:29.000 These leftists have glass jaws. 0.59

00:28:32.000 Break them legally and politically.

00:28:35.000 Stop cowing to the left.

00:28:37.000 Stop playing by their rules.

00:28:39.000 Stop living in fear.

00:28:41.000 But the only thing the left understands and appreciate is power.

00:28:45.000 Show them power.

00:28:47.000 I want to make sure you guys give your digits and coordinates here.

00:28:50.000 Raheem first, then Mike.

00:28:52.000 How can people support you, follow you guys, all that good stuff?

00:28:54.000 Yeah, thank you, Charlie.

00:28:55.000 The nationalpulse.com is the URL.

00:28:58.000 We are 100% people funded.

00:29:02.000 No donors, no political cash, none of that.

00:29:05.000 No adverts, none of that.

00:29:06.000 We are reliant 100% on ordinary people to have our back so we can keep doing the news, keep bringing you the analysis.

00:29:12.000 And that keeps us, as our strapline says, radically independent.

00:29:17.000 It's at the NATPulse on X, and I am at Raheem Kassam.

00:29:22.000 Just about everywhere.

00:29:23.000 Mike, how can people follow, support you?

00:29:25.000 What are your coordinates?

00:29:26.000 Article3project.org, article number threeproject.org.

00:29:30.000 You can take action there.

00:29:32.000 You can donate there and you can find our social media there.

00:29:35.000 Very good.

00:29:36.000 So guys, in closing here, last topic I want to tackle with you, vice presidential selection.

00:29:40.000 Where's your head at?

00:29:41.000 Mike Davis first, then Raheem.

00:29:43.000 Who would be, let's just say, from best to worst, rank a couple names that come off.

00:29:48.000 Mike Davis first.

00:29:50.000 I think Charlie and Raheem would be the best.

00:29:52.000 And I don't know.

00:29:52.000 I think maybe Nikki Haley might be the worst.

00:29:56.000 But I think President Trump needs to pick whoever he's comfortable with, whoever he likes, and who's conservative and is able to step up and lead if something happens to the president.

00:30:09.000 That's really the biggest job as the vice president is are they able to lead on day one?

00:30:15.000 There are so many good people out there.

00:30:17.000 Sarah Huckabee Sanders in Arkansas, I really like.

00:30:20.000 I really like JD Vance.

00:30:23.000 There are so many.

00:30:24.000 I probably should stop there because I'm going to leave people out.

00:30:27.000 So, Raheem, before I get to your answer there, I do want your reaction to Nigel Farage saying that he's going to be the new leader of the Reform Party.

00:30:34.000 I don't know what this means.

00:30:35.000 So break this down for the American audience here.

00:30:38.000 Yeah, it means Nigel Farage is back, back from his, I mean, number one rated television show, nightly show in the United Kingdom, but he's back in frontline politics.

00:30:48.000 It means he will run for a seat in Parliament.

00:30:50.000 It means he will be the leader of the Reform Party, which is the successor to the Brexit Party.

00:30:55.000 And it's kind of the Conservative Party, the soft left Conservative Party's worst nightmare, because it means that he is effectively now the leader of the opposition for anybody who actually considers themselves a populist, a nationalist, a conservative, and somebody who doesn't, or anybody who doesn't want an avowed, self-declared socialist in charge of the country.

00:31:19.000 And it looks like Labour Party will win this election on July 4th.

00:31:23.000 They will command the majority in Parliament.

00:31:25.000 They will get Sir Kier Starmer, probably the most boring man in politics, as the next prime minister.

00:31:31.000 But it really sets Nigel up to level up from being kind of a protest vote back in 2015 and 16 to being the leader of the most effective opposition party in British politics.

00:31:42.000 Does that mean one day he could be prime minister?

00:31:45.000 It absolutely does.

00:31:46.000 It absolutely does.

00:31:47.000 So, yeah, so then he's like basically planting the seeds.

00:31:50.000 Am I understanding that correctly?

00:31:52.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:31:53.000 It's taking that next step up.

00:31:55.000 You know, people said to him for a long time, you know, you'll always be this kind of fringe figure pulling votes away from the Conservative Party, just expressing this Brexit discontent that people have out there.

00:32:06.000 But traditionally, they've left you when times are hard and they'll flock back to the Conservative Party.

00:32:11.000 That is no longer the case.

00:32:12.000 And these are the dice that Nigel is rolling at this election to say to the public, no, look, you don't have any real Conservative options left in the Conservative Party.

00:32:21.000 The polling is certainly showing us that the public believes that.

00:32:24.000 And so Nigel is taking a chance on the public as much as giving the public the opportunity to take a chance on him here.

00:32:32.000 That's major news.

00:32:33.000 Guys, thank you so much for the full hour here.

00:32:35.000 I really appreciate it.

00:32:36.000 We are out of time.

00:32:37.000 Thanks so much for him and Mike.

00:32:38.000 Thank you.

00:32:39.000 Thanks, Nigel.

00:32:39.000 Appreciate it.

00:32:40.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:32:41.000 Email us as alwaysfreedom at charliekirk.com.

00:32:44.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

00:32:49.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - June 04, 2024

Post-Conviction Trump: Stronger Than Ever?

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