The Charlie Kirk Show - Is "Mohammedanism" Compatible with the West?

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, it's time for the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:00:01.000 Brian Gans from Burna and Andrew Sedra join the show.

00:00:04.000 Andrew Sedra talks about the rise of Muhammadism in the West and is Islam compatible with Western civilization?

00:00:10.000 We keep on asking that question.

00:00:12.000 Very, very important.

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00:00:32.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:01:30.000 Okay, everybody, we have a real special guest for you today.

00:01:32.000 It's a product I've known about for a while that is no joke, changing the world, and can really help you.

00:01:38.000 It is Brian Gans from Burna.

00:01:41.000 It is all about living safe, and this product is remarkable.

00:01:44.000 I mean, we just went through it.

00:01:46.000 It's something else.

00:01:47.000 Tell us your story, Brian.

00:01:48.000 Well, did you have fun shooting it, Charlie?

00:01:50.000 I did, and it's not a gun, correct?

00:01:52.000 It is not a gun.

00:01:53.000 It looks like a gun.

00:01:54.000 You know, we used to have these signs all over the office, don't call it a gun, but we've given up on that.

00:02:00.000 We just call it a non-lethal gun.

00:02:02.000 Got it.

00:02:02.000 Okay, so it's not a firearm.

00:02:05.000 It's not a firearm.

00:02:06.000 So I'm going to just show it to the audience here.

00:02:08.000 So this looks like a gun, seems like a gun, but what is this?

00:02:11.000 Okay, so this is a CO2-fired launcher, and launcher is a term that non-lethal guns use, and it uses CO2 to fire rounds, either like a hard polymer round, And so it's not lethal.

00:02:38.000 So let's just say you're living at home alone, right?

00:02:41.000 You're always worried about personal safety.

00:02:43.000 You have a real firearm.

00:02:45.000 In the back of your mind, you're like, boy, I don't know if I actually ever want to be responsible for killing somebody.

00:02:50.000 God forbid.

00:02:51.000 I mean, that gun is there if someone comes after in that kind of force.

00:02:54.000 So talk about the genesis of this remarkable process.

00:02:57.000 So Charlie, I've been a gun owner my entire life.

00:03:01.000 But I often wondered how quick I'd be to pull the trigger.

00:03:04.000 And I had an experience a little over a decade ago where I was involved in a road rage incident.

00:03:10.000 You know, I was admittedly driving kind of like a jerk, but somebody really took offense and they got right on my bumper.

00:03:17.000 I sped up, they sped up, I slowed down, they slowed down, and I really got scared.

00:03:21.000 I pulled over to the side of the road thinking they'd go around me.

00:03:25.000 But they didn't.

00:03:26.000 The guy pulls in right behind me, gets out of his car.

00:03:28.000 Now, I have my Glock 19, my 9mm, in my glove box, and I'm thinking, do I get out with my gun?

00:03:35.000 I could see in the side view mirror that he was running up.

00:03:38.000 He had nothing in his hand.

00:03:39.000 So I said, you know what?

00:03:40.000 I'm going to get out without my gun.

00:03:42.000 Nothing good can happen from getting out without my gun.

00:03:44.000 But honestly, it was a mistake.

00:03:47.000 This guy was bigger, younger, stronger, angrier.

00:03:51.000 He bum-rushed me, threw me to the ground.

00:03:54.000 Fortunately, what he really hurt was my pride, but it taught me that unless I was willing to take a life, the gun wasn't my only option.

00:04:02.000 And I really wanted to create something where I could have stopped him.

00:04:05.000 I could have held him at bay.

00:04:06.000 I could have called the police because the gun wasn't enough.

00:04:12.000 And so then you got into this space, which is remarkable, which it will prevent the person from doing the thing that they might want to do or steal the thing they might want to steal.

00:04:23.000 But it will not kill them.

00:04:24.000 It is non-lethal.

00:04:26.000 It is non-lethal.

00:04:27.000 We've sold over 500,000 launchers at this point.

00:04:32.000 We've had over 4,000 documented cases of being used.

00:04:36.000 More than 1,200 law enforcement cases of being used.

00:04:39.000 And in all of those instances, not a single life was lost or taken.

00:04:44.000 And honestly...

00:04:46.000 Nobody was even hospitalized.

00:04:48.000 So you get hit with this.

00:04:50.000 It really hurts.

00:04:52.000 So walk through that.

00:04:54.000 It's not a bullet.

00:04:55.000 It's not a paintball.

00:04:56.000 I just shot it out in the parking lot.

00:04:58.000 It moves fast.

00:05:00.000 But it doesn't penetrate your skin.

00:05:02.000 No, there's a lot of energy.

00:05:04.000 And if you, you know, I load my Burna so that the first two rounds out of it are hard polymer rounds.

00:05:11.000 This is a military-grade polymer.

00:05:13.000 And, you know, the technical term is it hurts like hell.

00:05:16.000 I've been shot with this, and you can see videos of me online jumping up and down, screaming a few choice curse words, because it really hurts.

00:05:24.000 But if somebody, you know, kept coming...

00:05:28.000 And you fire the chemical irritant round.

00:05:30.000 When it hits them, it explodes.

00:05:33.000 And all of a sudden, you're covered in tear gas and pepper, and your skin is on fire.

00:05:38.000 You're in respiratory distress.

00:05:40.000 You drop whatever you're holding.

00:05:42.000 You grab your eyes because they're very, very painful.

00:05:46.000 We call it temporary blindness.

00:05:48.000 But I don't care how tough you are.

00:05:50.000 If you can't see, if you're in respiratory distress, you're not going forward with the attack.

00:05:56.000 So, this thing has been taking the country by storm.

00:05:59.000 You've sold over half a million.

00:06:00.000 We have.

00:06:01.000 Is that right?

00:06:01.000 People can check it out at Burna.com.

00:06:03.000 We're going to be working a lot together.

00:06:04.000 I think our whole audience should have these, especially young people on college campuses.

00:06:09.000 But what if you have someone that says, this sounds all great, Brian, but I live in an anti-gun state, and I'm not allowed to own this thing.

00:06:17.000 Are they?

00:06:17.000 Well, they are.

00:06:18.000 I live in an anti-gun state.

00:06:19.000 I live in Massachusetts.

00:06:20.000 You live in the anti-gun state.

00:06:22.000 Well, let's say they live in Hawaii, which is notoriously anti-gun.

00:06:26.000 Is this legal in Hawaii?

00:06:27.000 It is, and we actually have done an amazing business in Hawaii, and we had an interesting situation.

00:06:33.000 There was a singer, a folk singer in Hawaii, who came in.

00:06:38.000 We set up a store in Hawaii, Burna Live Safe, Live Safe Hawaii, and this woman bought a Burna. 0.95

00:06:43.000 This was probably two years ago now.

00:06:45.000 And a few months later, somebody broke into her house.

00:06:49.000 And her husband took the Burna.

00:06:51.000 He hit the assailant, incapacitated the assailant, and held him at bay until the police came and arrested him.

00:06:58.000 I love it.

00:06:59.000 And the next day, when it made the news, we sold over $100,000 of Burnas at the Burna Live Safe store.

00:07:05.000 And talk about some more of the testimonials.

00:07:08.000 Yeah, it's, you know, we've stopped car invasions, carjackings, home invasions, muggings.

00:07:18.000 Again, there have been over 4,000 documented cases.

00:07:21.000 And if you go onto our website, which is BurnaBYRNA.com, there's a whole section of videos that people have made talking about, you know, the Burna saving their lives.

00:07:32.000 You know, when I started this, Charlie, I really wanted to have kind of a double bottom line.

00:07:38.000 A company that would do well by doing good, which is exactly what we've done.

00:07:46.000 Now, the interesting thing is our support has really come from the conservative side of the aisle.

00:07:52.000 When we first developed this, we really thought it would be the progressives.

00:07:56.000 This is a non-lethal gun.

00:07:58.000 It's not going to injure anybody, not going to take a life.

00:08:01.000 But they seem to be uninterested.

00:08:03.000 Where we found most of the demand is among gun owners.

00:08:07.000 You know, we signed a partnership with the USCCA, United States Concealed Carry Association.

00:08:15.000 And they asked me, what percentage of your customers are gun owners?

00:08:18.000 And I kind of jokingly said, you know, two-thirds are gun owners and one-third wish they were.

00:08:23.000 But it was a joke because...

00:08:26.000 The one-third that are not gun owners are people that have small kids at home and they don't want to have a firearm in the house.

00:08:31.000 Or their wife has said to them, if you bring a gun home, I'm leaving you.

00:08:35.000 But they want a way to protect themselves.

00:08:38.000 So I look at America, we're really split into two groups.

00:08:42.000 We're split into those people that if they're attacked, they're going to, here's my wallet, here's my keys, here's my wife.

00:08:48.000 Here's my kid.

00:08:49.000 And those people that are going to stand up for themselves.

00:08:51.000 It's just unbelievable to me.

00:08:53.000 So we have the product right here.

00:08:55.000 Show the audience.

00:08:56.000 We're a video medium as well as podcasting, so narrate it, please, as you're doing it.

00:09:01.000 So this is the Burna LE launcher.

00:09:06.000 It is a CO2-fired launcher.

00:09:09.000 The CO2 goes in the front of the launcher.

00:09:12.000 On the magazine, and there's a normal magazine release, there's a little CO2...

00:09:20.000 Hex key.

00:09:21.000 And I can put it in here.

00:09:23.000 And I can unscrew the CO2.

00:09:27.000 And then once I unscrew the CO2 cap, I can put a CO2 in there.

00:09:37.000 Screw it back in.

00:09:40.000 It now has propulsion.

00:09:42.000 I can load my magazine.

00:09:46.000 There's an ambidextrous safety.

00:09:49.000 And it is ready to fire.

00:09:50.000 And the thing that's interesting about this...

00:09:52.000 Don't fire at me.

00:09:54.000 Don't even point it at you.

00:09:55.000 I treat it like it's a loaded gun at all times.

00:09:57.000 And you should.

00:09:58.000 We give gun safety training to all of the people.

00:10:00.000 I don't know if you saw that earlier, but I was very careful about that.

00:10:04.000 Treat every gun like it's loaded.

00:10:06.000 And look, although it's a non-lethal weapon, it is a weapon.

00:10:10.000 And it will hurt.

00:10:12.000 It will ruin your day.

00:10:13.000 The thing that's interesting is...

00:10:16.000 We live in the society, Charlie, where there's this, you know, half the country is being infected by this woke mind virus where they are not fighting back.

00:10:27.000 My son is an assistant manager at Dick's up in Massachusetts.

00:10:31.000 And he's telling me that there are people that come in and they're shoplifting.

00:10:35.000 And I said, you know, Jason, what do you do?

00:10:37.000 And he said, we don't do anything.

00:10:39.000 I mean, I think they practically like hold the door for them and wish them a good day.

00:10:44.000 On the other hand, we just signed a partnership with Sportsman's Warehouse where they're going to have their sales associates wear a burner.

00:10:52.000 Now, you try to steal something from Sportsman's Warehouse, it is going to be a very bad day for you.

00:10:57.000 That's right.

00:10:57.000 Because getting hit with this is really extremely painful.

00:11:01.000 Unpleasant. Very unpleasant.

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00:11:46.000 Who's your typical customer?

00:11:49.000 Our typical customer, again, is two-thirds are male, two-thirds are gun owners.

00:11:55.000 They tend to skew a little bit older.

00:11:58.000 I would say probably our primary audience is in the 35 to 55 age group.

00:12:06.000 But we're starting to see this expand specifically more and more to women. 0.94

00:12:13.000 I think that, you know, as people are feeling afraid, and as this becomes more normalized, we're seeing a lot more people gravitate to the burner.

00:12:20.000 So this is what you load them with?

00:12:22.000 What are these?

00:12:23.000 These are kinetic projectiles.

00:12:26.000 That's a fun term.

00:12:27.000 That'll keep the ATF away from you.

00:12:29.000 So this basically is like a little hard marble and essentially works with what the police refer to as pain compliance.

00:12:40.000 It hurts.

00:12:42.000 And again, I think that for most people, that is all you need.

00:12:47.000 Now, this gun is legal in all 50 states.

00:12:52.000 There is no waiting period.

00:12:54.000 There's no background check.

00:12:56.000 There's no permits required.

00:12:58.000 Is there age restrictions?

00:13:00.000 There's an age restriction on our part.

00:13:02.000 So we won't sell it to anybody under 18. I think that's responsible. 1.00

00:13:06.000 Well, look, this is not a toy.

00:13:08.000 We also have certain products that we won't sell to civilians.

00:13:11.000 So we have a rifle that is fully automatic.

00:13:15.000 It will shoot.

00:13:17.000 But it is a burner.

00:13:22.000 But it is a burner.

00:13:23.000 Okay. And we don't want somebody lighting up the mall, you know, with 15 rounds a second.

00:13:28.000 Correct. And you don't really need that.

00:13:31.000 Most of our customers are buying pistols.

00:13:34.000 The range on the pistol is 60 feet.

00:13:37.000 But honestly, Charlie, beyond 60 feet, it's not self-defense.

00:13:40.000 You're a predator.

00:13:41.000 So, you know, this is something where you could protect yourself, you know, up to 60 feet versus pepper spray, which is kind of a close-quarter combat weapon.

00:13:53.000 Yeah, and so can I just have the weapon?

00:13:55.000 So the other positive is that if someone sees this, they might think it's an actual firearm, correct?

00:14:04.000 Correct. And we make it, obviously, in less lethal orange.

00:14:08.000 And the police will buy it only in less lethal orange.

00:14:11.000 But we also make it in black and tan.

00:14:15.000 We run special promotions with pink and green.

00:14:18.000 They just loaded it up.

00:14:19.000 So yeah, keep going now.

00:14:20.000 That's great.

00:14:20.000 But you know what?

00:14:22.000 It's interesting.

00:14:23.000 As I started to tell you, I was a single dad of three daughters.

00:14:27.000 They all thought I was a Neanderthal for owning guns.

00:14:30.000 Belonging to the NRA.

00:14:32.000 Never wanted anything to do with guns.

00:14:34.000 But my youngest daughter, who's a doctor now, was in medical school at the time we developed this.

00:14:40.000 And she would get out of the hospital late at night, bad parts of Boston, really scared to death.

00:14:47.000 So I gave her a burna.

00:14:48.000 I put a crimson trace laser on the front of it.

00:14:51.000 And I said, when you're walking back to your car, have your purse in front of you.

00:14:54.000 Have your hand on the burna.

00:14:56.000 If somebody is following you, turn around.

00:15:00.000 Put on the laser.

00:15:01.000 Put the red dot on their chest.

00:15:03.000 If they mean you no harm, they're going to turn on their heels.

00:15:06.000 They're going to apologize.

00:15:07.000 And frankly, you should apologize because they probably just crapped their pants when they saw the red dot on their chest.

00:15:13.000 This gave her...

00:15:15.000 A sense of...

00:15:16.000 Confidence? Confidence.

00:15:18.000 The ability to not be afraid.

00:15:20.000 And as we all know, being afraid is the worst thing in life.

00:15:23.000 And frankly, it was something that she could use.

00:15:28.000 I have a house on Cape Cod.

00:15:30.000 We practice in the backyard.

00:15:32.000 This is legal in Cape Cod.

00:15:34.000 Oh, yeah.

00:15:34.000 Because I don't think AR-15s are...

00:15:36.000 Abundant in Cape Cod.

00:15:37.000 No. Look, in Massachusetts lately, there's been just craziness by the state.

00:15:43.000 You can't buy a rifle.

00:15:44.000 But that goes to show for our Blue State friends, if you're in New York, if you are in New York City, it's its own problem, right?

00:15:50.000 But if you are in New York State, if you're in California, if you're in Washington, this is something you should get.

00:15:56.000 Illinois. California is our biggest sales state.

00:16:01.000 And Illinois?

00:16:03.000 I believe it.

00:16:05.000 is LA and our second biggest city is Chicago.

00:16:07.000 So where it is difficult to get a gun-We have a huge listenership in both those markets.

00:16:12.000 Where it's difficult to get a gun, you can get a Berna and you can protect yourself.

00:16:17.000 It's B-Y-R-N-A, correct? 1.00

00:16:19.000 Yes. It's Brian Reorganized.

00:16:21.000 So B-Y-R-N-A. 1.00

00:16:22.000 What else about the product do you want our audience to be aware of?

00:16:27.000 In the beginning, we had a lot of people accuse us of being the vegan gun company.

00:16:34.000 That is the farthest thing from the truth.

00:16:36.000 I am a gun owner.

00:16:37.000 I have multiple guns.

00:16:38.000 All of the C-suite at Berna are gun owners.

00:16:41.000 We just want people to have something further down on the continuum of force, Charlie.

00:16:45.000 So, you know, as a law enforcement officer, you know, you have everything from voice command, you know, down on the ground, hands behind your head, to baton, to pepper spray, all the way up to your sidearm.

00:16:58.000 But for most civilians, they have, you know, their gun.

00:17:02.000 This gives them an option other than their gun.

00:17:05.000 And today, I carry my Berna in the side pocket of my car, and I carry my firearm in the glove box.

00:17:12.000 So that if I'm confronted with somebody with a firearm, I'll respond with a firearm.

00:17:17.000 But I am not going to shoot an unarmed person.

00:17:21.000 And particularly in Massachusetts, I'm not going to shoot an unarmed person.

00:17:25.000 And I think people need to recognize that even if they're gun owners, or especially if they're gun owners, This gives them an option to start with a lower level of force.

00:17:36.000 And honestly, I'm an attorney by training.

00:17:39.000 I hate admitting that.

00:17:40.000 But you know what?

00:17:42.000 If somebody breaks into your house and you start with less lethal force and you are forced to transition to lethal force, there's too many of them or they're hopped up on drugs.

00:17:54.000 You just can't stop them.

00:17:57.000 I would love that case.

00:17:58.000 That's a case where you say, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, my client started with less lethal force.

00:18:04.000 He researched less lethal force.

00:18:05.000 He trained with less lethal force.

00:18:07.000 But there were just too many of them, and he had to transition to lethal force.

00:18:11.000 There's not a jury in America that would convict you.

00:18:14.000 But you shoot some unarmed person coming in your house, even in a red state, you're going to be in court defending yourself.

00:18:21.000 That's right.

00:18:22.000 So it's Berna.com.

00:18:24.000 And again, I just want to say, this thing hurts.

00:18:26.000 This is not patty cake, right?

00:18:29.000 And so for those of you worried, oh, I don't know if it will deter, if someone is trying to break into your home and you get three or four shots on them in this thing, there's almost no likelihood they're going to be continuing, right?

00:18:39.000 No, you know, we do a lot of human effects testing, and we pay people to get hit.

00:18:44.000 Yeah, talk about this.

00:18:45.000 Yeah, so look, I mean, we have, the two big questions we get is, one, does it work?

00:18:53.000 Yes, I just used it.

00:18:54.000 It works.

00:18:55.000 And it's fast.

00:18:56.000 And I always say to people, you need to shoot it, or better yet, if you want to, I could shoot you with it.

00:19:01.000 No, thank you.

00:19:02.000 But does it work is the most important question, and I think we've gotten over that hurdle.

00:19:08.000 Interestingly, the next biggest question is, what if I pull it out and the police mistake it for a gun?

00:19:14.000 Well, that's social Darwinism.

00:19:16.000 If the police are there, don't pull it out.

00:19:18.000 If you pull out your Glock, they're going to shoot you.

00:19:22.000 This is for when the police are not there.

00:19:25.000 It is a very effective deterrent.

00:19:29.000 Charlie, as I said, I think ideal for your listeners.

00:19:33.000 I think this is something that your listeners would appreciate.

00:19:36.000 I agree.

00:19:37.000 It's Burna.com, B-Y-R-N-A.com. 1.00

00:19:39.000 I love it.

00:19:40.000 We're excited to work together.

00:19:41.000 And also, Made in America, it's getting in that direction, right?

00:19:44.000 Yeah. Look, when we first started, our factory was in South Africa.

00:19:48.000 We've moved it to the U.S. We've made a...

00:19:51.000 We love that.

00:19:51.000 We've made a statement that by the end of 2025, this gun will be...

00:19:58.000 Produced entirely in America.

00:19:59.000 Our factory is in Fort Wayne, Indiana.

00:20:03.000 We just moved all of our ammo production from South Africa to the United States.

00:20:07.000 And we are committed to being made in America.

00:20:10.000 And it's not just patriotic.

00:20:12.000 Frankly, it's good business.

00:20:13.000 With what's going on in the world, with the supply chain disruption, with people stopping shipments.

00:20:21.000 Being made in America ensures reliability of supply.

00:20:24.000 It's a great product, everybody.

00:20:26.000 We're going to be working together very closely.

00:20:28.000 BYRNA.com.

00:20:29.000 Don't worry, it's not pointed at him.

00:20:31.000 I know it looks like that on camera.

00:20:32.000 It's not.

00:20:33.000 But I'll put it up.

00:20:35.000 BYRNA.com.

00:20:37.000 It is non-lethal.

00:20:38.000 And by the way, you should buy one for every one of your daughters, your granddaughters.

00:20:42.000 Just having one around the house can give you an extra peace of mind.

00:20:45.000 And they're affordable.

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00:22:14.000 Andrew, welcome back to America.

00:22:16.000 Oh, thank you.

00:22:17.000 I love America.

00:22:18.000 Land of the free, home of the brave.

00:22:21.000 I always get to come here, get three months of freedom before I go back to the socialist state of Australia.

00:22:26.000 Thank you, guys.

00:22:27.000 Thank you.

00:22:28.000 So for pastors that are here that they sometimes will hear from their congregation, don't talk about politics, don't talk about politics.

00:22:38.000 Are you able to speak freely the gospel in Australia?

00:22:43.000 Because of politics.

00:22:44.000 Yes and no.

00:22:45.000 I'm only able to do it at the moment because I'm brown.

00:22:48.000 So every time the anti-terrorism police, we literally had the anti-terrorism police come to our church at least three times for a sermon.

00:22:58.000 For a sermon.

00:22:59.000 So the reality of oppression to the gospel...

00:23:03.000 Is real.

00:23:04.000 Is real.

00:23:05.000 And we're seeing that in Australia.

00:23:07.000 Like, we're still doing the math at the church of what will happen to us across the next few years as this anti-freedom of speech spirit is rising.

00:23:18.000 So the truth is, if you continue to be quiet, you will eventually be forced to be quiet.

00:23:26.000 In Australia, can you give a sermon that says homosexuality is a sin?

00:23:31.000 Me, at the moment, yes.

00:23:33.000 But we do have these ambiguous laws in place where you can and you can't.

00:23:41.000 So at the moment, we have the anti-gay conversion therapy laws.

00:23:47.000 So I'm allowed to speak about it from the pulpit but the moment I get out of the pulpit to the lobby if I pray for a gay person I can go to jail potentially for three to five years and our church 1.00

00:24:03.000 can get fined $100,000.

00:24:05.000 So the only thing protected at the moment is the pulpit.

00:24:11.000 For how long?

00:24:12.000 And if they went after the prayer, what makes you think they're not going to go after the preaching?

00:24:16.000 And everyone understand, when people say don't get involved in politics, that's a political decision there in Australia.

00:24:23.000 The failure to get involved in politics is politics will eventually get involved with you and come to your church.

00:24:29.000 Well, not being political about being not political is political.

00:24:33.000 It's like political deception.

00:24:34.000 Not being political is political, no matter how not political you are.

00:24:38.000 And this is a very controversial...

00:24:40.000 Statement Charlie, but I always say in Australia, most of Australians, most of churches in Australia are communist accidentally.

00:24:48.000 And the reason I say that, the goal of communism was to get Christianity out of the public square and was to get the church out of politics. 0.94

00:24:58.000 Karl Marx literally said, my goal is to kick God out and destroy capitalism.

00:25:04.000 When pastors participate, The only philosophical worldview that doesn't want church in politics is communism.

00:25:29.000 And so that's a heavy truth for some pastors to hear because they say, but I only do the gospel.

00:25:35.000 I don't touch politics.

00:25:36.000 How would you respond to an American pastor that would say that?

00:25:39.000 I'm not really sure where it's in the Bible.

00:25:41.000 Like Joseph was a politician.

00:25:42.000 Joshua was a politician.

00:25:44.000 Elijah spoke to politicians.

00:25:45.000 Elisha spoke to politicians.

00:25:47.000 Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego were politicians.

00:25:51.000 Solomon, David were politicians.

00:25:53.000 I'm not really sure, to be honest, what Bible are they reading.

00:25:56.000 Because it's definitely not the same Bible we are reading, right?

00:26:00.000 I'm not really sure because I have studied so much.

00:26:05.000 I'm trying to figure out who brought this lie into the church.

00:26:09.000 And the only person I see is actually Karl Marx.

00:26:13.000 Who was a Luciferian, for the record.

00:26:16.000 That's a whole separate topic.

00:26:17.000 But it's a dominant point of view, and that's why Jensen Franklin and this church deserve such credit for hosting an event like this, because the majority of American churches stayed silent during this last election.

00:26:32.000 They refused to speak out.

00:26:34.000 Or even celebrate the reversal of Roe versus Wade.

00:26:37.000 And we need to look at our friends in the Anglosphere in Australia as a cautionary tale, everybody. 1.00

00:26:43.000 Now, you are far more secular in Australia than we are in America, right?

00:26:47.000 We are only 10 points away from you guys.

00:26:49.000 Like, I was telling you that we're praying over planting a church in America.

00:26:52.000 And we're doing the statistical reality.

00:26:55.000 And the scary reality of America, I don't think you got that far ahead.

00:27:00.000 Like, I was just comparing apples to apples statistically, Florida to Sydney, and the points of difference in religion is only 10% off from no religion, secularism, atheism, Islam.

00:27:14.000 So, just four more years of Comrade Kamala and open borders have the power to change this country fundamentally forever.

00:27:24.000 In Australia, in the last two years, we had two million immigrants.

00:27:29.000 2 million.

00:27:30.000 3,000 of them are from Gaza.

00:27:32.000 I saw your tweet this morning about the whole Gaza.

00:27:35.000 What the heck is going on?

00:27:37.000 So the truth is, one more term of the godless Democrats will change this nation fundamentally.

00:27:44.000 And you guys escaped socialism by a very thin margin last election.

00:27:52.000 Well, I think it was by about...

00:27:55.000 A half of an inch, if you ask me.

00:27:56.000 As George Washington said, the providence of God.

00:27:59.000 You could see last election, the providence of God was all over this country.

00:28:04.000 I'm a big believer that America is a very exceptional country.

00:28:08.000 And that's coming from someone who lived in the Middle East where we could never speak the truth. 1.00

00:28:13.000 And that is also coming from someone who's living in socialist Australia at the moment where we don't have freedom of speech codified.

00:28:20.000 And we saw during COVID in a moment and a second, Christianity became illegal for two years.

00:28:26.000 And there's so many takeaways here, everybody.

00:28:30.000 This is a warning sign.

00:28:31.000 The other thing I want to emphasize, Andrew, and you are very open to speak about this, is the rise of Islam in the West.

00:28:38.000 Islam is taking over all of Europe. 1.00

00:28:41.000 And to be honest, and this is one thing I hope the American church is ready, you are going to lose more and more of young men, especially black young men, to Islam, if you don't understand how... 0.99

00:28:54.000 You can call it a religion, whatever you want, is so predatory towards communities because it is the inverse of hyper-feminine...

00:29:06.000 Yes, but it's also even worse than that.

00:29:08.000 It's the exact opposite of hyper-feminized Western culture because it comes across as a hyper-masculine, patriarchal approach.

00:29:17.000 This is very important because the writing is on the wall.

00:29:20.000 Apart from Donald Trump, Charlie Kirk, Elon being the most Google people, you have Andrew Tate, who happened to become a Muslim, and unlike most people, I'm a bit... 0.86

00:29:30.000 Can I ask, how many of you guys know who that is?

00:29:32.000 Okay, about half.

00:29:33.000 Thank God.

00:29:35.000 I wish every hand would go up.

00:29:37.000 The fact that not every hand went up is...

00:29:39.000 The amount of pastors, I'm like, do you know Andrew Tate?

00:29:42.000 They're like, I don't know Andrew Tate.

00:29:43.000 I'm like, then all the men in your church are about to leave your church.

00:29:47.000 That's why young men don't want to go to your church.

00:29:49.000 It is so feminized. 0.57

00:29:51.000 It's crazy.

00:29:52.000 It's crazy.

00:29:54.000 The age of nice gospel is finished.

00:29:57.000 People like Andrew Tate are the product of hyper-feminized men who lived in the era of prosperous and wealthy America who in the midst of building, particularly pastors, they know how to build but they don't know how to fight.

00:30:12.000 And men by nature are very aggressive.

00:30:15.000 It's kind of cool.

00:30:16.000 You protect women with it. 0.92

00:30:17.000 So the problem we have at the moment is that you will see the rise of Islam personified in people like Andrew Tate simply because men go to church and they're over the lovey-dovey gospel. 1.00

00:30:31.000 They're really over it.

00:30:32.000 They're over this hyper-feminist, feminized, weak, woke, womanized gospel. 1.00

00:30:39.000 It's the number one piece of feedback I hear of why young men are joining the Catholic Church or becoming Muslim.

00:30:44.000 They say it's way too feminine. 0.99

00:30:46.000 And I agree.

00:30:48.000 I think the American church has become way too feminine. 1.00

00:30:50.000 I planted a church because the church I went to, the biggest church in Australia, I'm not going to say any names, was so feminized that men were leaving. 0.81

00:31:00.000 By the multitudes every year.

00:31:02.000 And guess where they're going?

00:31:03.000 They're going to the mosque.

00:31:05.000 They're going to the mosque, but they're telling them, you can actually act like a man, be a man, and we're not going to say toxic masculinity.

00:31:12.000 We're going to teach you how to fight, not just how to love.

00:31:16.000 We're going to teach you how to speak the truth, not just be empathetic.

00:31:21.000 We're going to teach you how to speak and not make silent a virtue because we talk a lot about work Jesus.

00:31:28.000 What about silent Jesus?

00:31:31.000 We have a lot of churches that have created the silent gospel and men are over this feminist, feminazi gospel. 0.68

00:31:41.000 But this is a very important point, because Islam will be spread by two ways.

00:31:46.000 through the importation of Muslims into your country or the spread of lower-income, predominantly minority men.

00:31:55.000 White men don't tend to gravitate towards Islam as much, but in the black community, we saw the flirtation with radical Islam in the 1960s and early 70s with Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and Cassius Clay, who became Muhammad Ali, and then it

00:32:10.000 was Lew Alcindor who then became Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, and then, of course, Malcolm X. That has plateaued, but I think we're going to see a resurgence.

00:32:18.000 Would you agree with that?

00:32:20.000 In Europe, we see this happening right now.

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00:33:37.000 Communists and Muslims, they love each other a lot.

00:33:40.000 Muhammad and Karl Marx, they're kind of besties when you look at their worldview.

00:33:44.000 So both socialist comrades like Kamala and Islam, they both happen to be obsessed with power. 0.96

00:33:51.000 And that what unites communists and Muslims, I call it the green and red alliance, the watermelon alliance, watermelon alliance, quiz for Palestine, is that both of them are anti-freedom and pro-tyranny. 0.57

00:34:07.000 So the left love Islam and they will import Islam and we see that in Australia. 0.98

00:34:13.000 The left-wing party in Australia and in London, you just saw a few days ago, one of the major people in the Department of Education in London, he's literally an imam and a mufti.

00:34:25.000 So he's literally an Islamic scholar and an imam who preaches.

00:34:30.000 So you will see Islam... 0.99

00:34:32.000 Make its way into the left-wing politics and that's one of the reasons the borders were open the last four years.

00:34:39.000 It was intentional about changing the character of this nation fundamentally.

00:34:45.000 The way to destroy America will be Islam and this is very obvious in UK because guess what? 1.00

00:34:52.000 Let's look at it.

00:34:53.000 Half of Americans are left, half of Americans are right, give or take. 0.84

00:34:58.000 The only way for...

00:35:01.000 I think everyone knows that Before

00:35:31.000 he was about to crash into the World Trade Center, he literally said, victory to Allah, death to America, Allahu Akbar.

00:35:39.000 9-11 was religiously motivated, right?

00:35:43.000 So how come America have forgotten that very, very big event and importing the same people? 0.99

00:35:54.000 I'll give you the answer.

00:35:56.000 The answer is because we as Christians have had empathy weaponized by the left and have our own Christ-like inclinations then used against us in a suicidal way because we're being taken advantage of.

00:36:11.000 That's exactly what is happening.

00:36:12.000 And the church is to blame for this.

00:36:15.000 It says to be...

00:36:17.000 Wise as a serpent and gentle as a dove.

00:36:20.000 And nowhere in the scriptures does it say to go import a bunch of people that hate you and want you dead and take you as slaves and to bring them into your country.

00:36:30.000 In fact, I would have to just say the church has been a large failure here.

00:36:36.000 I think we're seeing this.

00:36:38.000 By the way, the October 7th protest against all the Jews on campuses that you guys saw, we made that happen through our loose immigration policies. 0.93

00:36:45.000 Now, we're not as far gone as Europe.

00:36:47.000 Europe is completely lost.

00:36:49.000 I mean, the United Kingdom will be a Muslim-majority country in the next 20 years.

00:36:54.000 1000%. London already is.

00:36:56.000 While Christians are aborting their babies, killing their babies, making their kids gay and homosexual, and then... 0.99

00:37:01.000 Getting the rest of the young people who happen to escape abortion. 0.85

00:37:05.000 They trans themselves and butcher their body parts. 1.00

00:37:08.000 Islam is spreading like a virus. 1.00

00:37:10.000 This is the reality.

00:37:11.000 The area I live in, Christianity went down in the last few years by 3% and Islam went up by 6%.

00:37:18.000 So right now the difference in population is 9% and it's growing exponentially.

00:37:23.000 Have you been to London's town recently?

00:37:27.000 Has anyone seen what we're talking about in Europe?

00:37:28.000 If you go to Europe, it is unrecognizable, everybody.

00:37:32.000 And these used to be vibrant Christian epicenters on the planet that are conquered. 0.99

00:37:37.000 And can you talk a little bit?

00:37:39.000 Because you grew up in the middle.

00:37:40.000 You grew up in Egypt, right?

00:37:41.000 As a Coptic Christian.

00:37:43.000 It's very, very crazy.

00:37:44.000 So I happened to live the first 16 years of my life.

00:37:48.000 In the Islamic state of Egypt.

00:37:50.000 Again, Egypt is like moderate Muslim. 1.00

00:37:53.000 So whatever I'm about to tell you, it's just moderate Islam.

00:37:56.000 And then at the moment, I'm living the second half of my life somehow in the socialist, godless, secular state of Australia.

00:38:03.000 So I have that weird mix of half socialism, half Islam, which is very weird. 1.00

00:38:09.000 But we grew up, Egypt used to be... 0.99

00:38:12.000 90% Christian, from 300 to 600 AD.

00:38:16.000 If you did your math, we had one of the greatest theologians ever, from Augustine, he came to Egypt a lot of times, and we had Father Athanasius, who was the writer of the Nicene Creed.

00:38:29.000 So Egypt went in the last 1400 years from 90% Christian, now we're up to 10% Christian.

00:38:36.000 So the writing is on the wall to the point where the minority Christians like my family, for preaching the gospel, we had to escape for our life as refugees because...

00:38:47.000 Muslims, Muslim Brotherhood, which is the Hamas, ISIS of Egypt, and the government wanted to kill us and put my dad in jail.

00:38:55.000 So I'm here from the future to warn America, Islam is not a friend of America, and the future is not going to look very bright if pastors don't courageously and clearly speak the truth of the Bible. 1.00

00:39:11.000 And the sad reality, Charlie, is how most Christians do not support Israel anymore.

00:39:17.000 It used to be a very common sense that Protestants, particularly, would support Israel.

00:39:22.000 The last 10 years, I read a stat yesterday, 50% of conservatives do not support Israel.

00:39:29.000 And I would blame the church for that because...

00:39:32.000 We don't speak about abortion.

00:39:34.000 We don't speak about the gay agenda.

00:39:36.000 We don't speak about immigration.

00:39:37.000 And the next thing on the line at the moment, somehow, supporting Israel, Jesus was not a Palestinian, somehow that's kind of controversial at the moment, which is crazy.

00:39:49.000 And let me ask you a more broad philosophical question.

00:39:53.000 Can the West and Islam coexist? 1.00

00:39:58.000 No, because we serve two different gods.

00:40:00.000 We serve Yahweh, the one true God of the Bible.

00:40:02.000 They serve Allah.

00:40:04.000 Who's a violent, demonic God.

00:40:05.000 And every time I speak this, you have to understand, I'm putting my life in danger.

00:40:10.000 We can't have guns in Australia.

00:40:11.000 And when you call the police, they come one hour after.

00:40:14.000 So my life is already at danger for simply saying this.

00:40:19.000 I get death threats.

00:40:21.000 We have to move our home to a more private place for me daring to speak against the violent, demonic God.

00:40:28.000 God of Allah.

00:40:29.000 In Islam, killing is circumstantial. 0.51

00:40:32.000 You can kill the infidel. 1.00

00:40:34.000 What is the infidel? 0.99

00:40:35.000 The infidel happens to be any person that's not a Muslim. 0.92

00:40:38.000 So the Jews, infidel. 1.00

00:40:39.000 Gays, infidel. 1.00

00:40:41.000 Christians, infidel. 1.00

00:40:42.000 Communists, infidel. 0.97

00:40:43.000 Every single person falls in that category of infidel. 1.00

00:40:48.000 and what you saw on October 7th and what you saw on 9-11, that is the norm of Islam if they actually apply it.

00:40:56.000 They will tell you, but there are moderate Muslims.

00:40:58.000 Moderate Muslims.

00:40:59.000 What do you mean by moderate Muslims?

00:41:01.000 All Muslims support Hamas. 1.00

00:41:03.000 So even if they happen, they don't kill you.

00:41:06.000 They will silently support killing you.

00:41:09.000 And October 7th was a litmus test to Islam. 0.94

00:41:14.000 And what's going to happen when that happens?

00:41:17.000 See, the same people that were screaming,

00:41:19.000 Death to Israel. 0.89

00:41:20.000 On October 7th, I saw the same people scream death to America when 9-11 happened, when I happened to be in Egypt.

00:41:28.000 So we need to stop this lie that Islam that took over Egypt, took over Israel, and Israel took the nation back, that took over Syria, that took over Syria, that took over Algeria, that took over Lebanon, that took over Jordan, that took over Saudi Arabia, that took over Iran, that took over Afghanistan, 0.97

00:41:44.000 that took over India.

00:41:46.000 Somehow... I don't know what's statistically...

00:41:49.000 And now all of Europe.

00:41:51.000 This is horrific.

00:41:52.000 And Indonesia and most of Africa. 0.55

00:41:55.000 And Malaysia. 0.51

00:41:55.000 It is a religion of conquest. 0.51

00:41:58.000 Everyone needs to understand.

00:41:59.000 They are expansionists.

00:42:00.000 And if we as Christians don't be salt and light and expand our ranks, and if we are not defensive of what we are carrying, it's common.

00:42:10.000 It's common.

00:42:10.000 And the sad reality, this is exactly what happened to Egypt in 600.

00:42:15.000 When Islam took over, the Orthodox Coptic Church was very weak.

00:42:20.000 Their men were silent, weak and womanized. 0.99

00:42:24.000 That when Islam took over by the force, men were too weak to fight. 0.96

00:42:29.000 We got butchered and conquered and now I'm here.

00:42:33.000 This is a question.

00:42:34.000 If America is lost, where are people going to go?

00:42:38.000 This is a very, very important question.

00:42:42.000 So pastors, we need to stop playing politics with the Bible.

00:42:47.000 And I want to add to this, Charlie, I've got this in the main session.

00:42:51.000 We need to unite Catholics, Protestants, I don't know whatever denomination you're into, Methodists, to understand that the danger we face at the moment is neo-communism and Islam. 0.98

00:43:03.000 And we will either...

00:43:05.000 Defeat them once and for all, or they will eliminate Christianity. 0.99

00:43:09.000 The war is between Christianity and leftism mixed with Islam. 0.94

00:43:15.000 But I hope everyone understands the transition here, is that it goes from a Christian society to a secular one, then Islamic.

00:43:22.000 Because here's why.

00:43:24.000 The sequence is so simple, and it takes about 40 years to play out.

00:43:28.000 The Christian society starts to fall in love with material goods and no longer has children. 0.91

00:43:34.000 They want to continue to have a rich and abundant society.

00:43:37.000 So they need more people to go take the low wage jobs and to go, I don't know, diversity is our

00:43:44.000 strength their nation or whatever.

00:43:45.000 Which it doesn't mean anything.

00:43:46.000 It's a bunch of nonsense.

00:43:47.000 So then they start to import the third world. 0.99

00:43:50.000 When you import the third world, you get the third world. 1.00

00:43:53.000 Yep. And so what Europe did is they imported 25 million people from the Middle East.

00:44:00.000 Yep. From Syria and Iraq

00:44:03.000 And now, the most common baby name in London is what?

00:44:07.000 Most common baby name in Dublin is what?

00:44:09.000 The most common baby name in Copenhagen is?

00:44:12.000 If you don't know this, guys, and you're not preaching this to your congregation, you gotta lean in on this, guys.

00:44:18.000 It is a religion of conquest, and it is not a conspiracy theory.

00:44:23.000 It is a stated doctrine of the Hadith.

00:44:25.000 Literally. To take over new lands.

00:44:27.000 By the way, it's not the first time they've tried it.

00:44:29.000 The Ottoman Empire took over everything from Istanbul to Spain.

00:44:33.000 However, it is the first time that we've invited them.

00:44:37.000 It's the first time that we actually say, you know what, come on here and rape our women and populate our neighborhoods. 1.00

00:44:43.000 So while Christian pastors are letting their people abort their babies, the average Muslim in the West will have three to four babies.

00:44:51.000 While Christian pastors are not confronting the gay agenda and homosexuality, so instead of your people... 1.00

00:44:58.000 Getting married and having children, the Muslims are multiplying like rabbits. 1.00

00:45:03.000 While Christian pastors are not addressing the trans agenda, and the young people are cutting and butchering their body parts, the Muslims are multiplying. 1.00

00:45:11.000 And hey, Islam will be God's judgment if the church doesn't step up. 0.96

00:45:16.000 There does come a moment where Christians have to understand God will raise evil, demonic, totalitarian powers to punish Christendom for killing babies. 0.93

00:45:29.000 For allowing sexual perversion to become normal and for letting kids butcher their body parts and pastors saying it's political. 0.52

00:45:38.000 How are little kids butchering their body parts is political?

00:45:42.000 I'm not really sure.

00:45:43.000 That's wicked.

00:45:44.000 It is wicked.

00:45:46.000 And so, last question here, Andrew.

00:45:48.000 You've come from the Muslim world. 0.99

00:45:51.000 You're very uniquely qualified because you were raised in Islamic totalitarianism. 1.00

00:45:58.000 Moderate. What?

00:45:59.000 Moderate. So my example...

00:46:01.000 No, of course, but culturally you know the dynamics.

00:46:04.000 Institutional, yeah.

00:46:05.000 And you know the language, which is very important.

00:46:07.000 Which is very annoying for them, because I know what they're saying.

00:46:09.000 He speaks Arabic, he understands it.

00:46:10.000 But you're also living under secular totalitarianism.

00:46:13.000 What is one thing, one thing you pray that you want the church to do?

00:46:19.000 We have to be involved in the culture war.

00:46:23.000 The culture war is not cultural, it is biblical.

00:46:27.000 I don't care.

00:46:28.000 People always tell me, you're controversial, you're controversial.

00:46:31.000 I don't give a crap.

00:46:32.000 The question isn't, are you controversial?

00:46:35.000 The question is, are you biblical?

00:46:37.000 Cool.

00:46:42.000 We have to speak the truth to power, Christ the culture, and stop using the whole thing.

00:46:49.000 I don't want to offend people.

00:46:51.000 I am happy to offend people to protect my country.

00:46:55.000 I'm happy to offend people to see people get saved.

00:46:59.000 The gospel is not about not offending people.

00:47:03.000 Hey! I am from the future.

00:47:06.000 I warned Australia and the pastor think I'm a Donald Trump right-wing conspiracy theorist.

00:47:12.000 And hey, the Lord is bringing me here to give you a warning.

00:47:16.000 Turn back to God.

00:47:18.000 Turn back to the Bible. 0.53

00:47:19.000 Speak truth to power.

00:47:20.000 Stop playing politics.

00:47:22.000 God has given you President Trump, who is Cyrus the Great, who is Constantine the Great.

00:47:30.000 God is so gracious to give you a moment of revival and reformation top down.

00:47:37.000 If you study history, this is the grace of God to change this nation, and you would know this, Charlie, top down.

00:47:45.000 Now it's time for us to do the work bottom up.

00:47:49.000 I love it.

00:47:50.000 Andrew Sedger, everybody, give it up.

00:47:53.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:47:54.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:47:57.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

The Charlie Kirk Show - April 11, 2025

Is "Mohammedanism" Compatible with the West?

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